BONUS: Piers Morgan Exposes Weird Hamas Apologist

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  • @DavidBentley23
    @DavidBentley23 7 місяців тому +44

    Norman on discredited historian/Holocaust denier David Irving
    “David Irving was a very good historian - I don’t care what Richard Evans (the historian who was a key player in the Lipstadt libel trial) says. He produced works that are substantive…**If you don’t like it, don’t read it.** In the case of Irving, he knew a thing or two - or three.”
    Norman on Charlie Hebdo massacre
    "I have no sympathy for the staff of "Charlie Hebdo"

    • @creed610
      @creed610 7 місяців тому +4

      ​@@dankburrito8345It is

    • @IamaCosmonaut
      @IamaCosmonaut 7 місяців тому +1

      @dankburriot8345 Calm down, edgyboi.

    • @protoman1214
      @protoman1214 7 місяців тому

      That’s wild if true. Was there any other context for his Charlie Hebdo opinion? Is he essentially just an islamic extremist apologist then?

    • @oliviastratton2169
      @oliviastratton2169 7 місяців тому +6

      Yikes. Sounds like this guy is morally bankrupt!

    • @creed610
      @creed610 7 місяців тому +1

      @@DavidBentley23 It wasn't towards you

  • @ShintoArt
    @ShintoArt 7 місяців тому +40

    "Piers only 50 innocent citizens had been killed, it was clearly a moral quandary!" Why is 50 the arbitrary cut off any way? Is it okay praise the killing of people as long as its under 50? I wasn't aware of this rule, thanks Finkelstein

  • @motherofone979
    @motherofone979 7 місяців тому +58

    No, Norm, it was not initially reasonable to assume people had been killed in a firefight. I thought this man claims he has studied the issue for decades? How in the world would he think that was the obvious conclusion? Does he just never listen to what Hamas says?

    • @protoman1214
      @protoman1214 7 місяців тому +14

      That’s a good point, since when has Hamas excelled at direct combat with the IDF? Assuming those were all soldiers dead in firefights is a bit daft, especially when he should know many soldiers were on holiday and the borders had less security than normal.
      Edit: I just realized his most compelling framing of the attack was that they were “escaping” their concentration camp but does he not know many of the combatants were killed as they attempted to go back across the border into Gaza. Why were they actively trying to go back to their “prison”??

    • @Grassroots_Hegemon
      @Grassroots_Hegemon 7 місяців тому

      By day 2 the death toll had risen to over 600.... He is a liar, and a genocide denier.

    • @giovannirastrelli9821
      @giovannirastrelli9821 6 місяців тому

      He always knew the truth, he’s just being intellectually dishonest as usual.

  • @nathanmcdowell4731
    @nathanmcdowell4731 7 місяців тому +32

    His every thought is so long winded that he sounds out of breath even after deeply inhaling...If you ask him what he had for breakfast he'll no doubt begin his response with a recounting of a period during his young adult life in which he only ate oatmeal without any added ingredients for breakfast, that being the reason he no longer has oatmeal anymore as it lasted for so long, only to tell you he ate eggs with toast (if he remembers to answer the question at all) and his whole lead up was completely unrelated smh

    • @giovannirastrelli9821
      @giovannirastrelli9821 6 місяців тому

      And his screeching high pitched voice. Did he have an orchiectomy?

  • @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto
    @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto 7 місяців тому +7

    Being an isolationist is wonderful:
    Not my business, do your thing. IF North Koreans weren't cause for intervention, then none of it is my business, nowhere on this planet post 1950 is more autocratic than Democratic People's Republic Of Korea, virtually impossible to escape from it now. Israel, you do what you feel you gotta do. Quickly learning private civilian ownership of firearms mskes a difference, ESPECIALLY due to IWI is one of the best quality firearms manufacturer in the world.

  • @Michael_1138
    @Michael_1138 7 місяців тому +7

    I’m loving these bonus clips fellas.

  • @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto
    @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto 7 місяців тому +7

    Israel Weapons Industries/IWI... learn it. PSA Sitch: IF your firearm isn't American, it should be Israeli, like Spike Spiegel's sidearm, IWI Jericho aka Baby Eagle 9mm

  • @ddrnightmare
    @ddrnightmare 7 місяців тому +41

    This guy is what is wrong with academia. He can’t be challenged, he thinks he’s the only person with factual information, and he needs 3 people working for him to complete basic tasks z

    • @chadmwilliams89
      @chadmwilliams89 7 місяців тому +6

      That saga of trying to schedule a debate with Destiny was wild

    • @motherofone979
      @motherofone979 7 місяців тому +10

      He is so evil, honestly, and I am not saying that just because of his morally bankrupt beliefs about Hamas and Oct. 7th. I am saying this also because of what he teaches his students. I knew who Finkelstein was before Oct. 7th, but I had never followed his work or teachings. After he started popping up a lot, I started to look more into him. What I found was extremely disturbing. He actually teaches young people that "80 percent of them have no future" and this is only in relation to the economy. According to him they also have to deal with the climate catastrophe and the threat of nuclear annihilation. I cannot believe that he is so ignorant that he actually believes that economic troubles would mean that these students would "have no future." That is not the story that history tells us. You have to be in complete famine in order for that to be true and we are no where near that kind of threat. It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy. These students will act as if they have no future. They will make decisions that will harm their future prospects. It's just evil to teach them this. No wonder so many activists act like they are insane. They have men and women like Finkelstein teaching them that there's nothing for them in the future. They don't even have one.

    • @adriant240
      @adriant240 7 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, because he has the factual information.

    • @hochmeisterr
      @hochmeisterr 7 місяців тому +1

      What are you talking about. He has already been discredited by academia.

    • @adriant240
      @adriant240 7 місяців тому

      @@hochmeisterr Yeah, discredited by the fake academia that it is.

  • @tnndll4294
    @tnndll4294 7 місяців тому +4

    FINKELSTEIN: "That Candcae Owens was nicer to me! waaa!"

  • @johnbuckner2828
    @johnbuckner2828 7 місяців тому +73

    Piers was the first time I’ve seen that guy on a podcast where he Is actually being challenged instead of his ass being licked like he was Noam Chomsky being interviewed by Amy Goodman.
    Keep up the good work you guys, appreciate your nuanced, calm and rational approach to the issues.

    • @0fuxGiven
      @0fuxGiven 7 місяців тому +15

      i know! it is so weird, every time he is on a thing the comments section gets filled with "he is a treasure to humanity" or "thank you for speaking honestly" etc. by the bots/fleshbots that follow him around

    • @johnbuckner2828
      @johnbuckner2828 7 місяців тому +10

      @@0fuxGiven kind of cringy huh? I always throw up a little bit in my mouth when the interviewer is sitting there timidly asking softball questions like they’re in the presence of their guru.

    • @DoDPUB
      @DoDPUB 7 місяців тому

      Yeah, Jimmy Dore eats this guys ass out every time he's on. I don't understand the hero worship. I guess he's some ancient radical so he has brownie points from back in the day.

    • @l00proof626
      @l00proof626 7 місяців тому

      ​@@0fuxGivenHe's a leftist that's why the comments gush over him they have a hive mind his fan base swarms the comments so you get the belief that the majority of people are pro Palestine it's a leftist tactic watch any leftist with a big following and watch when they show up on interviews it's the same thing in every comment section.

  • @coffeemakir1977
    @coffeemakir1977 7 місяців тому +36

    Finkelstein used to make sense until I got older and learned how shoddy his work is

    • @talsapps
      @talsapps 7 місяців тому +2

      Most people just look from the side with out doing research and think that they got it all figured out

    • @adriant240
      @adriant240 7 місяців тому

      His position hasn't changed at all over the ages. Maybe you're just illiterate and never understood his position. That's highly probable.

  • @0fuxGiven
    @0fuxGiven 7 місяців тому +43

    I saw this segment when it came out (along with Douglas Murray's priceless response both before and after) and I thought the EXACT SAME THING about Norm not knowing the extent of what went down. Before people knew the extent or severity of Oct 7, before news outlets were properly covering it, the first things the world saw were the horrific videos and images. There is no way to morally justify this, even for the diehard Palestine supporters. And just because the number of confirmed deletions increase does not mean they are fresh bodies, it is merely the number CONFIRMED which is CERTAIN to increase over the following days as the investigation is conducted.

    • @shakacien
      @shakacien 7 місяців тому

      MMM like the, ahh, like no other civilian casualty numbers anywhere in the world right now huh.

    • @shadowwhowalk
      @shadowwhowalk 7 місяців тому

      'The Nazis weren't actually that bad' sort of priceless response. I will never forget it.

    • @Sid4president
      @Sid4president 4 місяці тому

      @@shakacien Whataboutism of the highest degree.

  • @urbanangst7630
    @urbanangst7630 7 місяців тому +14

    Finkelstein hasn't gone full Chomsky yet, but it's close

    • @rishirajbose2444
      @rishirajbose2444 7 місяців тому

      I'm not sure Chomsky has cheered on a genocidal group

    • @chumiimin
      @chumiimin 7 місяців тому +1

      He is way worse lol. Has justified antisemitic violence to people outside of Israel, has celebrated a literal mass killing. Chomsky is dumb af when it comes to geopolitical analysis, but Finkelstein is on another level.

    • @teelurizzo8542
      @teelurizzo8542 7 місяців тому +2

      With all due respect, Im not sure I agree w/ you , I feel Norman probably worse than Noam. The only anti Israel Jewish activist who's arguably more insidious than t both is a French Jewish guy named Illan Pappé.

    • @adriant240
      @adriant240 7 місяців тому

      So what, you're implying that's a bad thing?

    • @shadowwhowalk
      @shadowwhowalk 7 місяців тому

      ​@@chumiiminWhere did he say targeting civilians is justified? He explicitly said that it is not justified.

  • @gurulaghima4272
    @gurulaghima4272 7 місяців тому +6

    Why Dont y’all debate this weird Hamas apologist then?

    • @drbubonic4942
      @drbubonic4942 7 місяців тому +1

      Why didn't he want to debate Destiny? 😂

    • @gurulaghima4272
      @gurulaghima4272 7 місяців тому

      @@drbubonic4942 Who would want to debate that beta? He allows his woman to be had with other man. He's a massive simp.

  • @markyonline1
    @markyonline1 7 місяців тому +4

    I'm getting strong Richard Wolff vibes from that dude, he's insufferable to listen.

  • @alephmale3171
    @alephmale3171 7 місяців тому +5

    Wow, didn’t know you guys were bought and paid for.

    • @terebrate
      @terebrate 6 місяців тому +1

      these clowns are shekel suckers, apparently

  • @metalslinger
    @metalslinger 7 місяців тому +18

    We've descended into some bizarro hell world where Piers Morgan is voice of reason. -Glenn Reynolds.😂

    • @igorpedro8995
      @igorpedro8995 7 місяців тому +2

      I've seen the same phrase/sentiment being said a lot, but to be honest, I've never seen a clip of him being an irrational actor.
      Granted, I've only seen about 8 or 9 clips of his, and recent ones at that, and at worst he's talking over people being a bit rude, or I might catch a wrong information on the overall point he's making, but it never seems to be in a deceptive way.

    • @metalslinger
      @metalslinger 7 місяців тому +3

      @@igorpedro8995 He's not as bad now as he was back about ten years ago when he was on CNN. I also remember that Jeremy Clarkson punched him...

    • @metalslinger
      @metalslinger 7 місяців тому +2

      @@igorpedro8995 Also, forgot to add, Pierce is for gun control, big time. I tend to disagree with this, personally, but he has a right to his opinion. I can't remember when this was, but when he was on CNN, he brought on a guest to debate gun control. The person he brought on to argue for the pro gun side was Alex Jones.

    • @NYsummertimeCHI
      @NYsummertimeCHI 7 місяців тому +3

      @@metalslinger”1776 will commence again if you trah to take are gorns!”

    • @legin777
      @legin777 7 місяців тому +1

      "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take - Wayne Gretsky."
      -Micheal Scott

  • @intigeral727
    @intigeral727 7 місяців тому +5

    Piers got the better of Professor Doctor Fetterman.

    • @orrperetz7099
      @orrperetz7099 25 днів тому

      This not hard to be better thin a piece of shit

  • @You_guessed_it_Judge_Frollo
    @You_guessed_it_Judge_Frollo 7 місяців тому +6

    You know, the more I learn about this Norman Finkelstein the more I don’t care for him

  • @guskinmaypho174
    @guskinmaypho174 7 місяців тому +8

    The same people who say "omg it was just 50 people!" are the same people who cry about mass shootings where you have much less people wounded OR killed. It seems to me it's not about the number, more like who those 50 people are.

    • @protoman1214
      @protoman1214 7 місяців тому +4

      Bro, good point. I have some friends who said the Oct 7 attacks were justified who also happen (they didn’t know the actual extent of the attacks to be fair) to be massive anti gun activists who think mass shootings are the biggest problem in the USA at the time.
      So when people kill unarmed citizens in a country you don’t like its okay? They usually respond well these citizens are complicit in doing horrible things to the Palestinians. My response is well most school shooters have horrible, traumatic life experiences. Quite often they were bullied at the place they decide to shoot up? Why is it that we never become mass shooter apologist?

    • @jogiff
      @jogiff 7 місяців тому

      The same people who say, "no human being is illegal" also call Israeli settlers war criminals and valid military targets. They go on about ethnic cleansing, but want Palestine to be Judenfrei. They've never been morally consistent.

  • @theIJPmexican
    @theIJPmexican 7 місяців тому +1

    I love adams energy at the end haha

  • @dfmrcv862
    @dfmrcv862 7 місяців тому +6

    "I don't know what I would do in that situation."
    "Don't you think people in this situation would do something desperate like this?"
    Funny how this line of thought only applies one way...

  • @WhatsTheTakeaway
    @WhatsTheTakeaway 7 місяців тому +3

    Stormin' Norman is insane, in love with Palestine. Not sure what syndrome thats called, but its terminal.

  • @robcampion9917
    @robcampion9917 7 місяців тому +9

    When Finkelstein speaks he sound deficient in some way.

    • @protoman1214
      @protoman1214 7 місяців тому +5

      His monotone voice and exceedingly slow cadence always puts me to sleep. It’s difficult to listen to him

  • @abarr2951
    @abarr2951 7 місяців тому +28

    Candace Owens had him on before she went on maternity leave and am pretty sure she did it as an deliberate insult to Ben Shapiro

    • @user-jn7jf3kv6k
      @user-jn7jf3kv6k 7 місяців тому

      interesting

    • @bobwilliams4895
      @bobwilliams4895 7 місяців тому

      She was stupid for doing that.

    • @arihia45
      @arihia45 7 місяців тому +5

      as if ben shapiro is an objective voice ont his conflict.

    • @bobwilliams4895
      @bobwilliams4895 7 місяців тому +20

      @@arihia45 Not relevant to the post.

    • @ChiefCrewin
      @ChiefCrewin 7 місяців тому +16

      ​@@arihia45in that case everyone screaming about Gaza should be ignored as well.

  • @ethan9870
    @ethan9870 7 місяців тому +43

    What a liar. He compared it to John Brown and celebrated it. He knew exactly what it was then, there’s no walking it back.

    • @krillin876
      @krillin876 7 місяців тому +3

      Finkelstein has a video with Briana Joy Gray's Bad Faith podcast where he going into more details.

    • @jankostrhun8725
      @jankostrhun8725 7 місяців тому +6

      This is exactly what I expect for modern academia.

    • @dissident1337
      @dissident1337 7 місяців тому

      He's correct.

    • @Markunator
      @Markunator 7 місяців тому

      It’s actually very comparable to what John Brown did, except of course that Brown was a member of the privileged oppressor group who chose to use his privilege to fight _against_ them on the side of the oppressed.

    • @ethan9870
      @ethan9870 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Markunator Yes, that’s how I know Norm knew what it was, he celebrates John Brown and Hamas’ killing of civilians as “righteous”

  • @deathbysloth
    @deathbysloth 7 місяців тому +5

    "I never called you a fat Italian...I called you a *very* fat Italian." -Piers Morgan to Vincent Pastore, The Celebrity Apprentice 🤣
    Sometimes I love Piers.

  • @Neptune-hh4dq
    @Neptune-hh4dq 7 місяців тому +19

    This is my least favourite Norman

    • @equinshadox
      @equinshadox 7 місяців тому +3

      My favorite Norman is probably Norm Macdonald.

    • @motherofone979
      @motherofone979 7 місяців тому +1

      Norman Bates would be a close second.

    • @thorin4406
      @thorin4406 7 місяців тому +2

      Yeah, even worse than the Green Goblin.

  • @addgame7961
    @addgame7961 7 місяців тому +2

    and people under that video's comment think Norman destroyed Piers and basically calling him a saint. It's funny how perspective works.

    • @OafSite
      @OafSite 7 місяців тому +2

      In this case it's bias by sitch and adam

  • @redcoresuperstar
    @redcoresuperstar 7 місяців тому +16

    Finkelstein has always had a semi for Jihadists. When the Charlie Hebdo shooting happened, he called the French newspaper sadistic, explaining and that they deserved the attack (where Jihadists killed 12 cartoonists). This man is a monster and the fact that anyone takes him seriously is baffling.

    • @shadowwhowalk
      @shadowwhowalk 7 місяців тому +1

      Said they shouldn't have been attacked or killed despite not being ethical people.

    • @DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist
      @DefinitelyNotAMachineCultist 7 місяців тому +1

      @@shadowwhowalk Norm: "They're like _totally_ Not-sees guys! We _totally_ shouldn't game-end them though! Naughty naughty!"

    • @konnosx1213
      @konnosx1213 7 місяців тому +1

      his point was that supposedly Muslims are today treated in the west the same way that Jews were treated in N@zi germany, so the cartoonists making fun of them are the moral equivilent of N@zi propagandists drawing "happy merchants" and "poisonous mushrooms"

  • @protoman1214
    @protoman1214 7 місяців тому +32

    Bro, I keep hearing this guy is the absolute authority on the conflict. People talk about him with so much praise.
    I can’t say either way because I have honestly tried listening to him and its so difficult because he is even more monotone then Ben Stein.
    Are we just giving academic authoritative status to people who speak slowly and deliberate?
    I find it hard to believe people actually follow everything he says and just stack on the praise because he is pro-Palestine

    • @Kuricapitalist
      @Kuricapitalist 7 місяців тому

      Reminds me a little bit of Richard Wolff. “Economic Expert” who believes Capitalism is dying and that we should just move on to socialism.

    • @lakeeffectmusicable
      @lakeeffectmusicable 7 місяців тому

      Its confirmation bias for the terrorist simps. They can pump their chest in pointing out a pro Hamas jew. And I’ll refer to him as pro Hamas until he says something to prove otherwise.

    • @TMINE100
      @TMINE100 7 місяців тому

      I find his recent conduct to be deplorable, but his books are very impressive, and he is a formidable debater.

    • @protoman1214
      @protoman1214 6 місяців тому

      @@TMINE100 maybe so, I did manage to watch one segment of his and found it disgusting how out of his way he goes to mitigate the actions of Hamas. He literally said the rockets they fire are just fireworks. That, on its face, is such an intellectually dishonest spin. Just because military hardware can be improvised from non military grade materials, doesn’t mean it is not lethal or dangerous.
      Its like someone making a slam fired shotgun to kill people and someone goes “eh, he’s not harming anyone, he’s just going around pointing a party popper at people”

    • @lachlanbell8390
      @lachlanbell8390 Місяць тому

      @@protoman1214 What Hamas fires are glorified bottle rockets. Sure, they'd kill someone if they were hit directly - but so would a firework, quite frankly. They're more a symbolic act of resistance than an attempt to do any real damage. If you can't recognise this, then you really don't have much grasp on the conflict at all.

  • @mmmcounts
    @mmmcounts 27 днів тому

    Norm is a Maoist and a revolutionary. Everything that he says about this is in service of his Maoism and his revolutionary goals, but he only says that when he's speaking to fellow comrades and revolutionaries. Although, to be fair, he does try to be less unhinged and more realistic than the average revolutionary. But that's absolutely what he is, and that's what he is doing.

  • @heartsky
    @heartsky 7 місяців тому

    The metldown of Finkelstein. He's not done, but he'll never recover from this.

  • @giovannirastrelli9821
    @giovannirastrelli9821 6 місяців тому +1

    Norm Finkelstein’s “pick me, I’m not like the other Jews!” schtick got old decades ago.

  • @GodOfPlague
    @GodOfPlague 7 місяців тому +1

    Why are people trying to make me like piers morgan? What has the world come to?

  • @dilloneliassen9622
    @dilloneliassen9622 7 місяців тому +6

    LOL at describing Finkelstein as “weird.”

    • @flain283
      @flain283 7 місяців тому

      um, enjoy your LOL i guess?

    • @Harriz62
      @Harriz62 7 місяців тому +1

      Dumb UA-cam boys that think they're smart. Norman....weird? Lol, they don't know him.

    • @solan7978
      @solan7978 7 місяців тому

      Would you prefer bizarre? Insane?

  • @dfmrcv862
    @dfmrcv862 7 місяців тому +5

    "Piers I won't force you to believe it or impose my will, I am simply saying that as a FACTUAL matter"
    Who is this guy???? That has got to be the wordiest way of saying "nuh UH" I've ever seen!

  • @chronographer
    @chronographer 7 місяців тому +2

    While I like the bonus segments, I do prefer them in the format of a long podcast.

  • @fatdumbandangry
    @fatdumbandangry 7 місяців тому +4

    Remember, 2 wrong don't make a right. But 3 lefts do.

  • @HaleTheFreeVoice
    @HaleTheFreeVoice 7 місяців тому +13

    Oh Norman is insane I watched him on breaking points it’s insane he’s crazy, boomers need societal term limits lol

  • @georgerichwine1864
    @georgerichwine1864 7 місяців тому

    War brings out the worst in everyone.

  • @konnosx1213
    @konnosx1213 7 місяців тому +2

    you should btw read the comments in Piers Morgan vids like this one cause they are... ahem
    they are special :^ )

  • @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto
    @LoneWolf_Cub_Ogami_Itto 7 місяців тому

    Good segment Sitch, S Class Hai

  • @amazz121
    @amazz121 7 місяців тому

    yeah, the establishment puppet has a point. oh wait, im an establishment puppet now!

  • @bradbee9874
    @bradbee9874 6 місяців тому

    Who, on gods green earth could claim Israel is less humane than Palestine?
    Who would you rather be as a (Jewish and or Palestinian female)
    POW of Israel or Palestine?

  • @soulbro55
    @soulbro55 7 місяців тому +6

    It's funny how these two never bring up or show the lunatics who defend israel like douglas murray who does nazi apologia. but at the end of the day adam and sith are two internet nobodies unlike Norman.

    • @gregoryreynolds3612
      @gregoryreynolds3612 7 місяців тому +2

      And yet, here you are.

    • @SirArtorias61560
      @SirArtorias61560 7 місяців тому +3

      id love to hear how douglas murray does "nazi apologia"

    • @soulbro55
      @soulbro55 7 місяців тому +2

      @@SirArtorias61560 by downplaying what the nazi did, saying "that nazi at least felt bad about killing jews, so they weren't that bad" or calling german nationalism (nazis) a simple "muck-up", again downplaying what they did.

    • @soulbro55
      @soulbro55 7 місяців тому +2

      @@gregoryreynolds3612 damn, that really owned me dude.

    • @gregoryreynolds3612
      @gregoryreynolds3612 7 місяців тому +2

      @@soulbro55 Acceptance is the first step.

  • @worsenary1449
    @worsenary1449 7 місяців тому +3

    25:00 Not sure concentration camps deliver food, it's not uber?

    • @shadowwhowalk
      @shadowwhowalk 7 місяців тому

      International aid, and even then a crazy percentage suffer from food insecurity and malnutrition.

    • @worsenary1449
      @worsenary1449 7 місяців тому +6

      @@shadowwhowalk Well maybe in Gaza, letting terrorists run it doesn't help, digging up water pipes to make rockets doesn't make better conditions for the population neither does killing, kidnapping and hiding under hospitals and using your people as shields......

    • @lachlanbell8390
      @lachlanbell8390 Місяць тому

      @@worsenary1449 Well this comment aged like milk.

    • @worsenary1449
      @worsenary1449 Місяць тому +2

      @@lachlanbell8390 When you declare war on someone stronger than you, by murdering, raping burning alive and kidnapping, and then hide in civilian areas, what do you except?

    • @lachlanbell8390
      @lachlanbell8390 Місяць тому

      ​@@worsenary1449 1. Gazan fighters were responsible for two of the four things you listed. Of the other two, there is no evidence - none at all, zero - that the first one ever happened, and the body of available evidence indicates that Israel was responsible for the second.
      2. Palestinians were peaceably minding their own business up until the early 20th century. After WW1 and Sykes-Picot, there was some Palestinian resistance to the British occupation of their land. Pursuant to Balfour's 1917 promise to Zionist activists, following to WW2 the British then offloaded their occupation of the territory to the incoming Zionist colonialists, who massively escalated the violence against the land's people. This conflict has persisted in varying degrees of intensity ever since, and it was not the native inhabitants who instigated anything.
      3. More saliently, though: your original comment's point was that the Israeli blockade of Gaza not preventing any & all food from entering Gaza (100% by third parties mind you, Israel's only involvement was *not* seizing/destroying what relief agencies supplied) in & of itself disproved the characterisation of Gaza as a concentration camp.
      In light of the insurmountable evidence that Israeli extremist activists have been actively co-ordinating to block virtually all food from crossing the border - including surrounding trucks and gleefully destroying their cargo, while children on the other side of that border are quite literally dying of starvation - your claim that all this abundant food the people in Gaza enjoy disproves the true nature of Israel's, would seem to collapse under the weight of its own absurdity.
      But of course, these incontrovertible facts cannot be argued, so predictably you've deflected to arguing that Palestinians have no business complaining about such war crimes, 'cause they had it coming to 'em. They should've known better than to raise a hand against their massas, I suppose?

  • @papasmoke3311
    @papasmoke3311 7 місяців тому

    Finklestein doesn't have social media

  • @oceania2385
    @oceania2385 7 місяців тому +4

    Ok, a defense of Norman, he saw completely through "wokeness" and condemned Ibram Kendi as shallow lightweight when it was not popular. This issue is just too close to him, he's in a silo.

    • @Lateralmove
      @Lateralmove 7 місяців тому +4

      lol he should be in a mentally sick ward instead of being platform

    • @kmgyening
      @kmgyening 6 місяців тому

      I remember him doing that on Glenn Loury's podcast.

  • @BlackMantisRed
    @BlackMantisRed 7 місяців тому

    It always surprises me the comments section on Piers Morgans video agree with this dude, it was the same with the Hasan debate

  • @execthegaming
    @execthegaming 7 місяців тому

    25:42
    There WAS the intentional bombing of civilians during WW2.

  • @Fergit_
    @Fergit_ 7 місяців тому +4

    I can't deal with this guy, he takes forever to say nothing.

  • @alexanderliddell3151
    @alexanderliddell3151 7 місяців тому +7

    Norman Fecal Stain: "Im not going to defend Hamas...........buuuuuut"

  • @DJ-wl5qo
    @DJ-wl5qo 7 місяців тому

    (Even more) bizarro Jordan Peterson

  • @trime1015
    @trime1015 7 місяців тому +1

    I'm not sure I'm a fan of the new intro music ^^'

  • @esg8052
    @esg8052 7 місяців тому +3

    Norman Finkelstein is always on the Jimmy dore show, that’s where I first saw him. I find them creepy and insane.

  • @NorfolkCatKickers
    @NorfolkCatKickers 7 місяців тому +4

    stitch and adam show there bias here, I don't agree with the guy but he made some good points which you left out.

  • @DJprofessorK
    @DJprofessorK 6 місяців тому

    This guy is just evil

  • @TripleBarrel06
    @TripleBarrel06 7 місяців тому +11

    This whole situation is just further proof that horseshoe theory was a correct summary of political extremism.

  • @BlueDirt_ProAggressive
    @BlueDirt_ProAggressive 7 місяців тому +2

    Adam saying he doesn't see it as an "open air prison", but they aren't told when to eat, sht and sleep is interesting. How many organizations have agreed, have called it an apartheid. If u don't even believe that as the baseline then nothing IDF does is wrong, and any form of Resistance is wrong from Palestine. All misunderstanding I guess

  • @glenmarijnissen7144
    @glenmarijnissen7144 7 місяців тому +3

    "WEIRD HAMAS APOLOGIST" aaaaaaaah guys you lost me i'm sorry!

  • @Steel_Wrath
    @Steel_Wrath 7 місяців тому +1

    I can't use Twitter people do it for me... who is funding this guy?

  • @A-TEAMFrostback
    @A-TEAMFrostback 7 місяців тому

    @adam friended watch jocko ideas for fixing hearts and minds of the gaza people

  • @GoDrex
    @GoDrex 7 місяців тому +1

    Holy crap what a sicko 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @PsychoFanta
    @PsychoFanta 7 місяців тому

    Is it just me or does Einhornstein sound like an unfunny Gilbert Gottfried?

  • @DoWriteBy
    @DoWriteBy 7 місяців тому +1

    You can see the deceit around the elections. Mahmoud Abbas requested polling booths in Jerusalem, the capital Palestinians want for their state. Of course Israel said no, Mosab Hassan Yousef talks about how requests are always unreasonable to a peaceful co-existence, so it looks like Israel is controlling the political process in the Palestinian Territories. Abbas called the elections off after the refusal of booths in Jerusalem, which could very well have been a cover for his waning popularity and risking replacement through the democratic process. I’m aware of expansion issues that Israel should be honest and transparent about - for a balanced view, but Finkelstein’s narrative is deeply deceptive.

    • @shadowwhowalk
      @shadowwhowalk 7 місяців тому

      Under international law, Palestinians are entitled to:
      1- A sovereign independent state under the 1967 borders including East Jerusalem (this is also based on binding security council decision Israel has agreed to)
      2- Removal of all illegal settlers (whose transfer into occupied territories is a war crime. Ukraine is also demanding the removal of all Russian settlers in occupied Ukranian territories)
      3- Return of Palestinian refugees to their land of origin in the green line inside Israel
      Palestinians have been compromising on their entitled rights under international law for peace.
      What has Israel compromised?
      'We will stop further annexation through illegal settlements, but keep everything we blundered, and only allow you to be 'an entity which is less than a state' (Rabin quote), and we will control all your borders'.
      How is that any different from the status quo?

    • @DoWriteBy
      @DoWriteBy 7 місяців тому +2

      @@shadowwhowalk You realize Gaza shares a border with Egypt, right?
      What do you think should happen when a people wage war 4 times now and lose? Your understanding doesn't seem to accommodate this reality.

  • @MrDillon0000
    @MrDillon0000 7 місяців тому +3

    What kind of concentration camp keeps you alive long enough to have a baby and raise a kid

    • @shadowwhowalk
      @shadowwhowalk 7 місяців тому +1

      Plenty. Are you confusing between concentration camps and death camps?
      Gaza is periodically transformed into a death camp though.

    • @drbubonic4942
      @drbubonic4942 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@shadowwhowalkby having hospitals and allowing businesses? Thats a death camp? 😂

    • @shadowwhowalk
      @shadowwhowalk 7 місяців тому +1

      @@drbubonic4942 Considering Israel is currently conducting a genocide (per the U.N. definition), why not.

    • @jogiff
      @jogiff 7 місяців тому +2

      The Japanese internment camps (meaning the camps for interning Japanese in America, not the ones that the Japanese set up) did that. Of course, when people use the term "concentration camp" they clearly want to evoke Nazi concentration camps. Is there a term for when someone technically uses a term correctly, but in a way that is clearly intended to be misunderstood? Not that the term concentration camp is even accurate for Gaza, even if you actually do want to compare it to relatively humane ones like the Japanese internment camps.

    • @MrDillon0000
      @MrDillon0000 7 місяців тому

      @@jogiff The Japanese internment camps in America were there because Americans were worried about Japanese Americans turning on them in the middle of WW2. The Americans didn't want to genocide them and it could have been done in a humane way. However in a nazi concentration camp the goal was to kill the people they didn't like. That is the image you put in people's minds when you say they are in a concentration camp

  • @zantin91
    @zantin91 7 місяців тому

    Worst part of this interview lies within the comment section. I can't believe how much support he has in the comment section of a Piers Morgan video.

  • @leighbee1764
    @leighbee1764 7 місяців тому

    solid start7:58in and yall mention legit everything i thougt with the few things that moralquandry of a man sounded out of his mouthHole. . . smh but lawl

  • @Grilledcheeseofftheradiator
    @Grilledcheeseofftheradiator 7 місяців тому +1

    I've been Pro Palestine for awhile... I've never been impressed by Finkelstein. Dunno why he is labeled as a god among this topic.

    • @lakeeffectmusicable
      @lakeeffectmusicable 7 місяців тому +1

      Because he’s a jew that simps for your cause. The same way democrats love to glorify republicans on the J6 committee.

    • @motherofone979
      @motherofone979 7 місяців тому +4

      I mean this question sincerely. When you say pro-Palestinian what do you mean? Do you mean a two state solution? Or one state? And if it's one state what do you think should or will happen with the Jews in Israel? I am asking because I have increasingly grown disheartened at the pro-Palestinian side even though I have had a lot of sympathy with it in the past.

    • @GodOfPlague
      @GodOfPlague 7 місяців тому

      Curious

    • @evamurray2564
      @evamurray2564 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@motherofone979you will not get an answer as the poster probably believes in hamas' slogan from the river...

    • @Grilledcheeseofftheradiator
      @Grilledcheeseofftheradiator 7 місяців тому

      @@motherofone979 Im in favor of a Two State, are people calling for a one state?

  • @arihia45
    @arihia45 7 місяців тому +9

    why don't you two Sitch & Adam , aka Bert and Ernie, actually get norm to debate you guys? I dont agree with Finkelstein on everything but being little bitches and not actually confronting him doesn't resolve anything.

    • @kierenfarrell4574
      @kierenfarrell4574 7 місяців тому +3

      Ooooo your tough. You said bad words

    • @arihia45
      @arihia45 7 місяців тому

      @@kierenfarrell4574 definitely tougher than these d-bags who are doing their imitation of bert and ernie but with a political slant.

    • @WhatsTheTakeaway
      @WhatsTheTakeaway 7 місяців тому +6

      Norm can't even operate his own Twitter tho. How are they supposed to contact him directly. Maybe Sitch and Adam are just being ignored by Norman's insane staff?

    • @arihia45
      @arihia45 7 місяців тому +6

      @@WhatsTheTakeaway how did candace ownes contact him? how did jimmy dore contact him? how did Breaking points contact him? how did piers morgan contact him? And before you answer that these are big platforms, he has done interviews on smaller size platforms as well with katie halper and aaron maté.

    • @WhatsTheTakeaway
      @WhatsTheTakeaway 7 місяців тому +5

      @arihia45 And were any of those hostile to his worldview? Even piers Morgan was gentle with Norman and Norman still felt insulted. I doubt his "team" would allow him to be humiliated on a small channel. Or maybe Sitch and Adam simply don't want/can't afford a conversation with Norman. Even if they did I don't think Norman would stay longer than 10-15 minutes.

  • @TheFirstHurrah
    @TheFirstHurrah 7 місяців тому +4

    33:00 -- 33:45
    About how Palestinians blame Israel for all their problems when all their problems come from Hamas.
    I just have to say that a piece of the puzzle that is missing here is that Israel apparently *funded* and *encouraged* the growth of Hamas, precisely for the reason of keeping the Palestinians down and divided. Mehdi Hasan did a piece on this a few years ago.
    Also, you guys have a very strict interpretation of what a concentration camp is.

    • @Blurredborderlines
      @Blurredborderlines 7 місяців тому +1

      Israel legitimized Hamas in the same way that Joe Biden stated that if an Israel didn't exist "one would have to be invented to protect American assets" (may not 100% be verbatim, you can easily find the quote on YT if you look him up in the 90s). It's the same old middle eastern tale every single time, you'd think people would see through that.

    • @lakeeffectmusicable
      @lakeeffectmusicable 7 місяців тому +1

      Supported Hamas as opposed to what? The PLO? Perhaps Israel thought Hamas to be the lesser of two evils. The same way that leftist shitheads like Mehdi Hasan would complain that “the CIA trained Bin Laden”, because it was in defiance of Russian aggression. Mehdi does no favors by giving a one sided “fuck Israel” take.

    • @ReformedHistorian
      @ReformedHistorian 7 місяців тому +7

      Because concentration camp has a specific meaning. Just like the word genocide has a specific meaning.

    • @adriant240
      @adriant240 7 місяців тому +1

      You people have no clue about you're talking about. You're all prey of and pedaling mainstream and Zionist propaganda. Have fun being idiots.

    • @evamurray2564
      @evamurray2564 7 місяців тому

      ​@@adriant240insulting people you disagree with doesn't make you more superior. Go away hamas simp.

  • @GarosGaming
    @GarosGaming 7 місяців тому

    It doesn't matter whether or not if the numbers grew on the next day. Once a c you next Tuesday always a c you next tuesday

  • @GordonTechno
    @GordonTechno 7 місяців тому +6

    How can you provide any evidence when Morgan keeps asking the same irrelevant question over and over? Finkelstein is the worlds foremost authority concerning the Levant.

    • @protoman1214
      @protoman1214 7 місяців тому +14

      Don’t you find it a little disconcerting how a so called expert on this specific region/conflict was willfully ignorant of the extent of the Oct 7 attacks for several days despite the overwhelming amount of reporting that contradicted what he knew of it?
      So is he an expert or just a casual follower of the conflict? I don’t see how he can have it both ways.

    • @WhatsTheTakeaway
      @WhatsTheTakeaway 7 місяців тому +4

      No, he is pro-Palestinians foremost authority, and it's hilarious, because the guy is obviously in love with Palestine and will excuse everything.

    • @motherofone979
      @motherofone979 7 місяців тому +4

      Clearly you haven't spent any time studying the area if you think that. This is a man who knows so little about this issue that he believed it was reasonable to assume that some kind of firefight happened when he got the news that Hamas and others had invaded Southern Israel. That is in no way a reasonable assumption if you actually listen to and read what Hamas and other Palestinian groups have said and done over the years. All I can conclude is that this man either does not know what the people he champions say or doesn't believe them. I can in no way conclude that this man is some kind of expert on the Levant. Just no. God help you if you think he is.

  • @dead_girl__
    @dead_girl__ 7 місяців тому +6

    this guy has written like 10 books on this topic and you treat him like chopped liver. Get him on the show and talk to him instead of taking these lazy pot-shots. He went on Jimmy Dore so I'm sure he'd come on your show. I heard he was going to debate Destiny recently but it got delayed or cancelled

  • @notloz2
    @notloz2 7 місяців тому +7

    Norman's been studying this subject the whole of his life, stitch and Adam don't even known the basic definitions.

    • @tnndll4294
      @tnndll4294 7 місяців тому +13

      Norman declared his support for the terrorist group Hezzbolah saying "we are all hezzbolah". look it up.

    • @notloz2
      @notloz2 7 місяців тому +3

      @tnndll4294 looked it up and found nothing.

    • @WhatsTheTakeaway
      @WhatsTheTakeaway 7 місяців тому +7

      Stormin' Norman is completely lost to his own prejudice and backwards thinking. The man is broken goods, past his expiration date, and he was never that fresh to begin with.

    • @notloz2
      @notloz2 7 місяців тому +1

      @SacClass650 lol just listen to yourself you sound like a bloody neophyte. Think critically much?

    • @notloz2
      @notloz2 7 місяців тому +2

      @@WhatsTheTakeaway Pro tip: sourcing your perverted immagination isn't reality.

  • @md85aus94
    @md85aus94 Місяць тому

    Such a great video. Rewatching 6 months later. Everything is still 100% correct.

  • @Blurredborderlines
    @Blurredborderlines 7 місяців тому +5

    It should be a bit hypocritical to be commenting on this conflict from an American perspective (much less a British one, for that matter) regarding the treatment of terrororist organizations that a country is directly responsible for aiding and abedting while simultaneously complaining about their behavior... while ALSO simultaneously recieving global funding from other countries that are also responsible for the same terror groups and others in other countries of that region. It should be ironic, but it's extremely tired at this point, you either understand the history BEHIND Hamas, and by extension most major religious terror groups, or you just blindly accept that America is the "good guy" because they're not coming after YOU which is what this boils down to. You're content with supporting ethnic cleansing since you're not that ethnicity. It's myopic and extremely low level cognition - You don't even need to agree with Norman on anything to understand that this topic is actually extremely simple.

    • @kristinewhitfield4110
      @kristinewhitfield4110 7 місяців тому +4

      Yes thank you. Glad to see some comments calling this out.

    • @AhmedHassan-kl8ew
      @AhmedHassan-kl8ew 5 місяців тому +1

      A breath of fresh air in this comment section.

    • @kristinewhitfield4110
      @kristinewhitfield4110 5 місяців тому

      @@AhmedHassan-kl8ew why do you say that?

    • @AhmedHassan-kl8ew
      @AhmedHassan-kl8ew 5 місяців тому

      @@kristinewhitfield4110 A lot of the initial comments I saw on this video echoed what Sitch and Adam said.
      I suppose that’s reasonable given it’s their audience, and they’d buy just about anything they peddle.

    • @kristinewhitfield4110
      @kristinewhitfield4110 5 місяців тому

      @@AhmedHassan-kl8ew Not all Americans think like them. I promise a good portion are very anti-war but there is also a portion brainwashed by the media and some don’t like to face the wrong our government does. They will always try to justify the wrong doings just like our government does but there are a lot that do see through the bullshit. Some don’t understand that you can still live your country and disagree with the government running it.

  • @Mockracy
    @Mockracy 7 місяців тому +14

    Adam and Sitch have had MSM establishment neocon / neoliberal like foreign policy takes, especially after the show with Dave Smith. Didn’t notice but here’s another one.

    • @creed610
      @creed610 7 місяців тому

      Aren't you the same guy that denied The detention camps for muslims in china

    • @nathanmcdowell4731
      @nathanmcdowell4731 7 місяців тому +28

      You are insinuating that, unless they hold a position that is counter to the "MSM neocon/neo liberal" belief/narrative, their opinion is incorrect. Are the two mutually exclusive?

    • @equinshadox
      @equinshadox 7 місяців тому +19

      "MSM Establishment neocon" are often used as labels to denigrate an opinion someone disagrees with. Doesn't necessarily mean the neocons are wrong about this.

    • @IamaCosmonaut
      @IamaCosmonaut 7 місяців тому +12

      Just because the msm/neolib/cons have the opinion, doesn't mean it's automatically wrong and that you have to have the opposing view. Judge situations on their own merits and base your opinion on that. Stop being contrarian NPC.

    • @Kamfrenchie
      @Kamfrenchie 7 місяців тому +7

      @@SacClass650
      maybe you should expand on what they get wrong or miss, instead of merely asserting they have a bias

  • @just_a_turtle_chad
    @just_a_turtle_chad 7 місяців тому +23

    Norman would school you kids in a debate 😂

    • @Emperor_Kronk_TheIV
      @Emperor_Kronk_TheIV 7 місяців тому +40

      Norman is too afraid to debate Destiny. keep dreaming dork🤣

    • @boris5926
      @boris5926 7 місяців тому +2

      I am sure you're massacre celebrating psycho clown who backpaddled his statement with delusional excuses is gone do great. I don't know who is more delusional him or his fans

    • @timmyt1293
      @timmyt1293 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Emperor_Kronk_TheIV the wars of the mentally disadvantaged 😂😂

    • @andreasesser4641
      @andreasesser4641 7 місяців тому +5

      You overestimate debate bro tactics.

    • @trax72
      @trax72 7 місяців тому +7

      He probably would, but not because he's right. But because he's so overbearing and won't get others get a word in.

  • @md85aus94
    @md85aus94 Місяць тому

    Anyone who has frankenstien on their program is 100% struck off my list.
    Jimmy dore
    Candace owens (who works for jewish people, absolutely insane)
    Makalia Peterson.
    And of course the lovely hill presenter.
    The only exception is piers morgan because he challenges him and constantly has people with opposing views on his program and i respect that greatly.