Timeline of Gaza | 3500 BCE to October 7th, 2023
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Origins of the Twelve Tribes of Israel:
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Charts & Narration by Matt Baker
Animation by Syawish Rehman
Audio editing by Ali Shahwaiz
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Hello UsefulCharts, im new to your channel and i really enjoy your videos. Im really looking for a video where it shows the changes of our calenders. For i know the Jewish calender is different to the Julian calender as well as the Gregorian calender. Do you have a video on how the world ended up adapting to the gregorian calender? Or what calenders they were using in the past?
your implementation of terms is wrong. Bronze Age Canaanite are the same iron age Canaanites./ Israel is a term called exclusively for people of a certain religion. which mean the one who struggle with god. Israel is a religious name not a geographic name. jews came from Mesopotamia not from the native Canaan land, Hebrew . were nomadic groups living in the desert of Mesopotamia. their name mean the crossers of rivers, because they used to marauding on trade routs and villages similar to the guti or vandals. Amrits,Mobait,Adomits,Ammonites,Phoenicians are all Canaanites. why you didn't mentioned them? and with your logic are the philistines iron age Canaanites? Israelites literature is extremely influenced by Mesopotamian religion and Egypt more then the Canaanite religion which they despised. there is no such thing as iron age Canaanites called Israelites. this is misleading.
Israeli operation in Gaza is not wrong/illegal.
No one called the Allied forces genocidal when they bombed/starved Berlin.
Unless it only applies when the victims are non-whites. Is that it?
Read a book,
More specifically, the rules of war as agreed and legally defined in UN
Hospitals/Cultural/Historical places/Schools/places of worship. All lose their legal protection if they put weapons/ammunitions/hostages inside those places.
Blame the Nakba on the Arab League who chose war instead of a citizen/land swap.
Blame the Destruction of Gaza on those who put missiles/hostages under their children's bed just to score sympathy points.
@@NicitoStaAna WTF! Israel has no right to defend itself from the people it occupies
I am sorry, but that is full of inaccuracies. Like the fact the British didn't sell any land to Jews, but were Arab land owners. Or the fact that the withdrawal from Gaza is not related to the 2nd Intifada, which was almost exclusively in the WB and was decided by the Israelis in 2002. Way before any violence in Gaza.
As an Arab, i found this video very enjoyable and i salute you for not picking sides and just stating facts as they are. Thank you and keep making great content ❤
As a Jew, same!
@@_oaktree_shalom! I'm with you guys. There is historical information neither of the sides shouldn't deny!
@@sunnysuzannait doesn't really matter what you call it, killing people is just that, and many or even most of the deaths are innocents. Genocide or not, that's a horror.
@@samos343guiltyspark
How convenient that the "Gazan health ministry" which is the Hamas government, doesn't say how many of their own died. Its almost always women and children even though there is so much footage of "kids" actively used in the conflict.
If you civilians out of harms way, don't fight from within them dressed as civilians.
@@W4HB
You're a liar.
What a normal and non combative comment section
Because this guy deletes comments. He deleted mine several times.
I haven't deleted any comments. However, UA-cam automatically deletes some before I even get the chance to see them.
@@alexandarthedivine that's probably yt's doing
@@alexandarthedivineconsidering your public subscriptions, yeah thank god for that
@@UsefulCharts Well okay sorry for assuming then, but let me just say if here.
You say that what Hamas did on October 7th is wrong and what Israel is doing right now is also wrong. However you miss the point that Israel is doing unprecedented things to minimise civilian casualties here. Israel dropps leaflets, texts and calls people, uses drones with loudspeakers used by people who speak fluent Arabic to get people out of harms way, while Hamas is doing everything TO KEEP civilians in harms way. Israel allows humanitarian aid to come in and uses high precision rockets to target specific targets. Another fact is that Israel successfully evacuated more than 1 million people from Rafah and established field hospitals and places where these people can temporarily live. To say that Hamas and Israel are equally bad here is not only wrong, it's outrageous. You say you support the protests, but what these mobs are shouting is nothing but death to Israel, death to America. Israels fight is against the Hamas, not the Palestinians. In 2005 Israel withdrew from Gaza in persuit of peace. What did happen then? They elected a government that persues the complete Annihalation of Israel. Israel has a long history of compromising, and as someone with Jewish ancestory as well and has relatives in Israel, I understand this struggle. There clearly can't be peace with terrorists operating in the Gazastrip or the westbank. What they say about themselves is very clear. Hisbollah, Huthies, Hamas, Public Front, Lions Den, Fatah, PLO, PIJ, and all these terror brigades are all terror proxies of Iran that aim to annihalate the state of Israel. And it makes me sad and angry when I see that when Israel is fighting this just war, people really think they can held Israel accountable to not living up to the perfect standard of NO civilian casualties at all. A standard no country in history ever lived up to, and yet it is expected from Israel, while it's also the only country NOT allowed to win a war. Israel doesn't deliberately kill people, this is the crystal clear difference between them and Hamas. But civilian casualties are a sad cost of war - a war, that Israel never first started. Out of the around 30 k people around 14k were combatants. The numbers changed a bit, but not changing the fact that the ratio of killed people is almost 1:1, which is even more impressive in a war like this where Hamas hides beneath civilian infrastructure and tunnels that are embedded in it. The numbers of the Hamas controlled ministry of health keeps lineary growing, which is very questionable and weird because it never occurs in war. As stand 100% with Israel because history has shown that leaving terrorists be that use all fundings from the world to buy weapons to aim at annihalating a neighbour state is a mistake. Doing nothing and standing still while you are getting targeted by suicide attackers, is a mistake. This has to stop, and it has to stop now.
I am impressed by the detailed historical information you provide in your videos. To make them more trustworthy, can you make a video about what the sources are of the historical info?
Or provide information about the sources per video?
Kind regards
Bram
25:45 can you provide a source for the statement you made that in 1800s~1900s Gazans started to call themselves as Palestinians.
@@-Elie- (He made it up, like most of the Palastinian national identity)
@@itaye666 it was not made up, they did call themselves palestinians, and identity in general is made up.
16:55 Minor mistake. The year wasn't 135 BCE but rather 135 CE, during the reign of Emperor Hadrian, that the third Jewish revolt was put down and the province renamed as Syria Palestinia.
proof? share link.
@@patrickgronemeyer3375 The History of Rome podcast by Mike Duncan
@@patrickgronemeyer3375do you know the difference between BCE and CE?
@@patrickgronemeyer3375”
The Bar Kokhba revolt, also known as the Third Jewish-Roman War, was a large-scale armed rebellion against the Roman Empire that took place from 132-135 CE. Led by Simon bar Kokhba, the Jewish rebels of Judea gained control of Jerusalem and parts of Judaea, establishing an independent state for more than two years. However, the Roman army eventually crushed the revolt, killing bar Kokhba at Betar in 135 and enslaving or killing the remaining rebels within the year. The war had devastating consequences for the Jewish people, with the majority of the province's population killed, enslaved, or exiled.
The revolt began with high hopes for a homeland and a Holy Temple, as Roman emperor Hadrian had allowed the Jews to return to Jerusalem and rebuild the temple in 118 CE. However, Hadrian became convinced that the Jewish faith was the driving force behind the uprising and declared a war of annihilation against Judaism. He banned all Jewish commandments, including circumcision, Sabbath observance, and Torah study, and anyone who observed them was executed”
@@patrickgronemeyer3375 It's historically well know, even Life of Brian covers it! Judea became a Roman Province in 6AD and the Romans later renamed it to Palestine as an insult to the Jews/Israelis that kept uprising against them. It was a punishment and insult as the name was taken from the Philistines that had lived along the coast at one point (they were later invaded and defeated by the Babylonians and absorbed into them). Even today, being called a Philistine is an insult.
for such a comprehensive overview, you really gloss over the reasons why the UN plan just "never happened" and the war began. it's quite a bit more complicated than that!
Which is why it's glossed over, because you'd need another half hour to even begin to get into that topic
Palestine Arabs literally just rejected the offer for statehood. Instead choosing to declare war to finish Hitler's holocaust job.
Basically everything starting post wwii is either completely or partially wrong tbh
Please answer two questions:
1. Why did the war start in 1967?
2. Why did Israel not return Gaza Strip to Egypt in that peace process?
Because Egypt didn't want it.
@@StamatisAllas and they also dont want open boarders with Gaza
In the peace process Sadat was cornered, because by controlling Sinai Israel would control the other side of the Suez Canal. The offer was to give Sinai back to Egypt, in exchange for peace and recognition of Israel. That made Egypt the first Arab country to accept the existence of Israel. Unlike what others say, its not true that Egypt didn't want it back.
@@swagatochatterjee7104 They didn't want Gaza back.
The war started in 1967because 1)Zionist ideas are all about expanding from the Nile river to the Euphrate river ,that is the original plan and they were provided by the imperialism support to do so weapons and all ..2)Nasser made a grave mistake by having 60% of his army in Yemen for different reasons back then ,which gave a golden oppurtinity for the Zionist Israel to attack and conquer the weakened Egyptian army ..It was a question of why not do that ,not why do that ...
Thank you so much for this! I really needed to find out the history :)
2 misleading things you lied about: 1 - Several places did offer refuge to the palestinians, in all 3 places the PLO faction of the population turned on their host country either causing a civil war, trying to instigate a violent coup or supporting a foreign government's invasion. Not sure there's any evidence they've moderated their attitudes since then. 2 - Some arabs were pushed out of their homes during the nakba, many also left because the invading arab armies told them to leave so they could cleanse the land of the jews. So for many the tragedy of the Nakba is that the arabs failed to genocide the jews so they could go back to their homes.
Palestine is not a territory or people. It doesn't exist.
History is our current story too….
Throughout history, until today.. the Same “clean shaven” “civilized” “people”.. waging inhumane, unjust, “barbaric” wars on indigenous populations of Family Men, Fathers, Brothers, Sons, Farmers, Fishermen, and Believers!!! While calling the victims “Barbarian”.
Not accurate at all!! 1948 the Jewish state was not the one who started the war!!! The numbers that you provide about the conflict after Oct 7 are all based on information that been released by Hamas, so how is it possible for you to claim that you are an objective thinker if you use such information?
The Palestinians and Gaza are living a second class citizens only because their government of Hamas has made them so there’s been no issues there since 2005.
also that map of the "west bank" misrepresents how much land palestinians actually own. Israel has annexed and controls 61% of the area outlined as the west bank. So less than half thay are you outlined is actually "the west bank"
They have built walls that seperate palestinian villages from each other but connects israeli illegal settlements together. Palestinians in the west bank have to go through israeli checkponts to travel to see family, neoghbors and to work and checkponts can deny you entry arbitrariliy, they also unalive palestinians for fun there and usually after claim they were "trrrst" an ovcupation soldier emptied his rifle into the body of a 9 yr old palestinian girl who was only trying to get to school and afterword claimed she was "acting suspicious" the occupation soldier recieved no punishment
I do think youre not emphasising the fact that news already lived in that area enough. Also a lot of arabs especially egyptians emigrated to palestine during british mandate. The border was open to everyone not just jews and a lot of people moved there for work. I can find the source if anyone is interested. The simple fact of the matter there probably never be peace untill both sides completely stop. Also another annoying thing that people seem to forget to mention is that hamas is hiding under civilians and wears civilian clothing. You can search on youtube right now drone footage of the idf and youll see them in civilian suburban areas wearing civilian clothing. If we mention the idfs body count we also have to mention what hamas is doing that is causing this in the first place. This is 101 terror tactics and it has to be adressed
My interest in and studying about the Levant, Syria, Palestine, Israel and the Middle East since after the horrible Oct 7 event in Israel has led me to a very deep personal understanding of their cultures, as well as the different perspectives from people from different backgrounds.
Being a Hong Konger, I am witnessing how an authoritarian leadership can dumb down brilliant minds and great cultures the West has given the world. Suddenly all great progress in humanity got suck back to the dark days.
Our kindnesses and yearning for unbiased views always got used by the tyrants, who
then brainwash us to follow their ill-minded deceptions.
Anyway, from scholars to media, from
Norman Finkelstein to Mosab Hassan Yousef, and from Usefulchart to religious studies, and from political studies to real life observations, I can conclude that Israel is more of a blessing to this messy always-in-war corner of the world than a curse. Because when I imagine without Israel being there, there likely will be more blood and unfairness among these other countries, and also within each of their own regimes. It’s never ending.
The saddest of all is that our kindness tend to make us confuse between the inevitable deaths during wars and the cruelty of seeding hatred through the education of killings from older generations to younger generations - this is the most sickening unforgivable sin Hamas and the Hamas-supporting groups have done to humanity. Not the wars.
I won’t associate genocide or cultural cleansing with Israel, rather I think the people in Gaza and those who shout out the freeing of Palestine should cross check with their own leaders’ narrative, if they have good leaders they can choose from.
The CCP has done terrible cultural cleansing (and lots of killings) to the Uyghur. Where are all these Islamic/Muslim leaders? We need to see beyond the obvious. Many people who shout out “from the river to the sea” all around the world have no knowledge of what really have been happening, mind their willingness to read as many books and think for themselves rationally from all angles. We can’t be that lazy if we claim that we care.
yes, the bit about the lovely church being destroyed this year, and "18 people were taking refuge inside", hmm, that could have been "18 terrorists using the church as a shield" for all we know.
There are a lot of omissions. There was no mention who started the wars. Went to war is misleading. He did take sides. They were offered a state 5 times and the palestinians rejected all. Very disappointing
Agreed, there is a distinct anti Jewish bias unfortunately, withholding certain historic information and reducing the Jewish longevity in the region, making it appear less significant than it is. Archaeology doesn't seem to agree with that assessment either. The Egyptian Merneptah Stele mentions Israel in 1207BCE for example, which suggests that Israel has existed for around 3,500 years.
He starts off suggesting that there is no evidence that the Hebrews came from Egypt, but there is. There is some evidence that the Israelites lived in Egypt which includes:
Tell el-Dab'a: Excavations at this site have found evidence of a foreign, Semitic population. Some believe this could be the ancient city of Avaris, which was once the capital of Hios and home to an ancient Semitic people.
Tomb of Rekhmire: This tomb contains images of light-skinned Semitic slaves making bricks.
Serabit el-Khadim: This site has evidence of Semitic slaves.
Not mentioning that the 1948 two state solution offered only 40% of the region to Israel is significant in my opinion, especially as more than 50% of that was southern dessert, the Negev, but Israel accepted that - effectively only 20% of the region that was livable and allocated to them. The surrounding Arab nations didn't want there to be a state of Israel so started the war the next day - no discussion, straight to war. It doesn't appear to be about land, but simply because they didn't want a state of Israel. He mentions the Nakba as if it was simply a Jewish aggression, but it only occurred as a result of the war started by the Arab nations, and also doesn't mention that Jordan ethnically cleansed all Jews from the West Bank at that time. He mentions new Jewish settlers as if there were very few Jews there before 1948, but doesn't mention new settlers of other denominations or that Israeli archaeology is rife in the region, dating back and continuously for thousands of years, and no Palestinian archaeology.
Judea is the Jewish homeland and has been for thousands of years, regardless of who else may have lived there. The Romans renamed it (2000 years ago) because of the Jewish uprisings, not because of others who lived in the region, which suggests it was the Israelis defending their homeland, rather than settlers in the region causing problems
Zionism was simply the descendants of displaced Jews returning home to be with their own people who had remained there since it was Judea. They bought land legally. He suggests that the British were helping the Jews to do that, but doesn't mention that there were disagreements and conflict between Jews and the British which suggests there wasn't such a happy accord between them.
The 1967 6 day war started after the surrounding Arab nations had militarily surrounded Israel at its borders with the intention of removing them entirely, a promise that had been made in 1948 so that the Palestinians could live in Israel. It was a promise of the genocide of Israel that even remains to this day - it's even in the Hamas constitution. From 1948 to 1967, none of the Arab nations wanted Palestinians and ensured they remained in Gaza and the West Bank waiting for Israel to become their new home after the Genocide of the Israelis living there. That never came to fruition though. Having won the 6 day war, the only reason Israel kept a military presence in Gaza, the West Bank and Golan Heights was as a means to defend themselves against similar future attacks right on their borders. Pretty much everything Israel has done has been as a consequence of being attacked.
Land gained in a defensive war, which this was for Israel, is land that is legally gained. After World War II, Germany lost territory east of the Oder and Neisse rivers to Poland, and about 15 million ethnic Germans were forced to leave. The war also caused Germany to lose 24% of its territory, from 468,787 km2 before the 1938 annexation of Austria to 357,022 km2 after the 1990 reunification of Germany. This makes the Nakba etc look insignificant in comparison, but you never hear any mention of Germany's land loss, or of them complaining about being 'occupied'.
You can't complain about the consequences of a war you started and lost.
I could go on, but there is so much missing, that this account isn't as middle of the road as some seem to think it is.
@@garyl5128 There is no answer to “who started the fight”. The answer to that question will always be different depending on when you start the story
@@twerp_ That's quite a generic statement. it's quite clear when the surrounding Arab nations attacked Israel in 1948, simply because Israel accepted the proposed two state solution. They were attacked the very next day without any provocation. No attempts were made to discuss it with Israel, it was just straight to war. That's where the current conflict started and it's been pretty much the same story ever since. October 7th is another example.
How far back do you want to go?
Going back in time to when the Hebrews are said to have settled with the other tribes in Canaan would be 3,500 years ago or more. Judea and Israel was well established after that, and the Roman invasion 2,000 years ago was clearly an attack on Israel that resulted in the land being renamed to Palestine due to the Israeli uprisings. Roman history tells us that.
@@garyl5128 They are illegal European and American settlers
G-d gave the Jews the promised. End of.
What a wonderful video! Thank you for the excellent research and presentation.
One point I find a bit simplified is equating Caananites with Israelites. It is a great way to show how the Israelites were mostly local Caananite tribes, in contrast with the biblical narrative of migration and conquest.
But there were others, no? Like the Moabites and Phoenicians?
True
Moabites and Phoenicians are essentially canaanite. Their languages are canaanite languages and genetically Phoenicians Israelite etc are canaanite genetics
The video says that "sometime in the latte 1800s and early 1900s Gazans stopped thinking of themselves as Ottomans and instead thought of themselves as Palestinians".
What evidence can I use to support this claim?
Just google "first use of the word Palestinian". There's some debate over when exactly that was but it was sometime between 1880 and 1920.
@@UsefulCharts The Google results certainly do support use in that time frame, but they fall spectacularly short of the claim in your video, which is that the population actually changed how it self-identified.
It is pretty easy to show that in the 1947 time frame, the Arab population in the Mandate overwhelmingly used Arab, and that Palestinian in the absence of the word Arab was disproportionately used to describe Jews.
Was there a period of time prior to this in which the Arab population in the area actually called itself Palestinian to a greater degree than we see post-WW2?
What was the nature of the shift in self-identity (if any) between 1880 and the end of Ottoman rule, and was this shift anything more than the actual political end of the Ottoman empite?
@aum1040 i dont have a scholarly article but i have my family stories. im palestinian christian. My grandfather was born in nazareth and had a palestinian passport.
Thats just an example of one pre world war two
@lmarsh5407
Yea but EVERYONE living in the Mandate had a Palestinian passport, because that's the name of the Mandate. It wasn't independent.
@UsefulCharts
If that's the case, why did they overwhelmingly deny the word "Palestine" in the Peel Commission that was even after the dates you mentioned?
"There is no such country! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. 'Palestine' is alien to us; it is the Zionists who introduced it." -- Awni Bey Abdul-Hadi, Secretary of the Arab Higher Committee, before the Peel Commission in 1937.
Every other member of the Arab Higher Committee and the rest of the tribes living there said exactly the same. They still had the desire to become part of Greater Syria.
I didn't realize how much I needed a video from you about this, but I am so grateful that you have taken the time to make one. Thank you.
This was very informative and I learned a lot. This has caused me to rethink many things and I thank you for that.
Best documentary about the present conflicts and help me as an Asian understands the history of it. Thanks
Excellent job, although I question the accuracy of the comment that the PA is interested in living peacefully alongside Israel (where Hamas has explicitly asserted that their objective is to kill all Jews.) There were multiple instances when this was offered to the PA, and they refused. As far as I am aware, no PA leadership has ever explicitly stated that they are willing to have a Palestinian state that exists alongside Israel-if I am wrong, and I hope I am, then I would appreciate someone providing me with information about that.
no you are not mistaken, that is how it is
the Palestinians openly say that their only goal is the destruction of Israel
Excellent video! ❤
By far the best explanation on the matter, excellent work
wars don't just brake out.... the Jews accepted the Palestinian state alongside Israel. Surrounding Arabs and palestninans started a war....
*multiple wars. And yet somehow the arabs are the victims and the Jews are the aggressors for daring to defend themselves...
The DNA of Palestinian says that they belong to the region of Levant.
Fleeing persecution does not give you the right to kick people out of their land.
Exactly Israel belongs to Israelis
@@celestialsatheist1535 Studies on Palestinian DNA conducted by Jewish researchers have revealed that modern Palestinian DNA is identical to the people living there 8000 years ago. Jewish DNA is not identical. Look it up on TED talks. So whatever idea your on about is now in line with the facts. Jews do not have any legit claim to that land. And no, bronze age myths are not a legit claim
@@jeupater1429 This isn't true though? No such studies (at least real ones for that matter) Have ever stated that the DNA of Palestinians is Identical to a person living there 8000 years ago? I mean that's quite literally bullshit that you just made up or found on some Nazi 4chan thread. With the never ending movement of humans in and out of the land that's genuinely impossible and leaves me baffled that anyone could be so unintelligent to not take that into account whilst trying to spread misinformation with clear intent to remove Jewish connection to the land. Time for the real facts; both Ashkenazi Jews and Palestinians both have diverse admixtures resulting in a 40% - 70% Canaanite DNA, Palestinians DNA being mixed with Arabs from Muslim Colonialism and more recently from an influx of Egyptians, Egyptian. Ashkenazi Jews on the other hand have mixtures from southern Europe which makes sense as a large number of Jews were enslaved by Roman nobility and brought to Europe, doesn't take away from the fact that they are from the land. The connection is clear and thats JUST Ashkenazi Jews, when we bring into account the Sephardi and Mizrahi Jews who are much less mixed as they avoided enslavement from Europe, They make up the large majority of Israelis. Bronze age myths aren't a legit claim which is why nobody is using myths as a legit claim, they are using historical facts and Jewish history in general, not passages out of a bible. So whatever idea you're on about is now in line with the facts. ;)
@@celestialsatheist1535land thief
They bought the land and owned as much of it as the Arabs did in 1947.
750,000 palestinians were not forced out of their homes. They were instructed to leave by the 5 attacking Arab armies after the modern state of Israel was created. They choose to obey this instruction and leave. The Arab Israelis currently in israel are the decendents of the arabs that chose to ignore the instructions of the 5 Arab armies. Also, you may want investigate where the term Nakba comes from. It actually was first used to describe the failed attack on Israel by the Arab armies.
This is a lie.
@@andorifjohn which part do you think is a lie?
@@andorifjohnWhat part is a lie?
A lot of this video is completely incorrect. For one, when Hamas attacked, Gaza was already independent. Gaza has been attacking Israel for almost 20 years.
And then when Israel retaliates, this guy says Israel is "immoral" - while Hamas still holds 100 people hostage in terror tunnels.
He forgets to mention that the Arabs attacked the Jews in 1948. Instead, "a war started".
And he says he "unbiased". OK.
I will tell you something - the majority of Jews in Israel will gladly co-exist with Arab "Palestinians", but the other side does not want that. They clearly say that they want to completely destroy Israel - and they have been the aggressors ever since Israel was established (and they lost the war that they started).
Don't forget there are 20% Arab population in Israel and they are equal citizens, and not a single Jew living in any of the Arab cities surrounding Israel so... who is being violent and unreasonable?
Polish people informally attacked the people of Danzig first, was Hitler right to invade?
You forgot thet in 2015 Israel have left Gaza strip and the also the army left it. Although, instead of leaving their lives, and supply their own electricity and water, they are getting for free electricity and water from Israel, and shooting rockets on us for all this time. For us, as Israelis its a war of life or death.
Why lie
Finally, someone who puts decent effort and context to the claims by both sides!!!!!
Why hold hostsges and call for a ceasefire?
How many Palestinians are imprisoned in israel unjustly ?
why occupy the land and build illegal settlements?
I understand the choice of not picking a side and "sticking to the facts". But when 2 sides are telling a completely different story and you want to stick to the truth - "picking a side" it what it ends up looking like. I've noticed when you stuck to the facts and exactly when you decided to ignore them, so it promotes your safe fence sitting conclusion, you have failed sticking to the facts. And instead, you landed on a very safe peaceful message that unfortunately leads nowhere. Hope you a＄＄ isn't hurting.
Can you make a video on history of Americas starting from crossing of the land bridge to moments before colonization?
Would be difficult to make an accurate timeline with the Americas
That would be awesome but unfortunately a lot of dates would only be approximate with the exception of the Maya and last century before Columbus
The "crossing of the land bridge" WAS a colonization.
@@JeffinBville Colonization of uninhabited land, yea. Or is it your opinion that there were humans (or otherwise intelligent beings) living in the Americas even before the first humans arrived?
Read Origin by Jennifer Raff. You will learn that there was no original people, just wafts of various peoples over time. It is based on DNA and she correlates with folklore.
Why don't you do a video of the actual population of Palestine from around 1700s to the early 1900s (pre world war 1). It was a backwater with very few people living there. And of those people, very few of them were actually Muslim. Most were Christians and Jews. There are censuses from those periods and commentaries from the likes of Winston Churchill and Mark Tawin (to name a few) that support this. You may also want to include when Muslim started returning to the area and why. That would make for a very interesting video.
Also, israeli bombs falling on historical sites in Gaza is a result of Hamas CHOOSING to use these sites to fight from/launch rockets from.
So you talk about the British as a colonial power, and curb to mention the Arabs as a colonial power in the region as well
Literally colonizers for the Arab kingdom of the Arabian Desert, modern day Saudi Arabia.
Proposal for Israel and Palestine to unite with equal rights for all under the name Canaan 🤣🤣🤣
You missed the point as you were explaining it😂
The Brits DID COME THRU with the promise to the Arabs. The Arab state being Jordan. That was a huge piece of land. It's just that the Arabs assumed they would get ALL of Palestine. Brits never said that. 😂
Brits shouldn’t be carving up land and making deals like that to begin with.
@@sdsdssificationIt was a Treaty that ended World War I, which the Ottoman Empire + their allies lost. See San Remo conference and please know that the Ottoman Empire was not a little ragtime band of freedom fighters. They raped, pillaged, stole and did lost of colonialism but eventually grew weak, as empires do. If they had won at the Gates of Vienna, Europe would be Islamic Turkish today.
@@Poppyseed-1960 I’m trying to see what your point is. Are you making an excuse for Britain and other colonizing nations to split up land and not expect push back?
If I came to ur house and told you where to sleep, took your possessions, and told you that someone is moving in because I feel bad for them what would you do?
@@sdsdssificationthis is a poor analogy seeing as the territory had been Ottoman in the first place. It’s more like you rented an apartment and got a new landlord. The new landlord now says you can’t access certain parts of the building and puts up new walls and changes the locks.
@@zacharyflint7901 it’s a very good one actually. Stop stealing and colonizing peoples land. It’s that simple.
i hate what is happening and i think netanyahu, ben gvir, smotrich etc should be kicked out and trialled. i also think the settlers in the west bank are very unhelpful in terms of peace, and just exacerbate the conflict. but the protests in the west worry me. so many people calling it a genocide when it's the lowest civilian to combatant ratio in any modern urban warfare is bordering on blood libel. people have called it that for years even though the population keeps increasing, and even israel keeps sending humanitarian aid and treating them in israeli hospitals (genocide is supposed to be a deliberate extermination of people group, and additionally, 2 million of those people live in israel). i am not trying to downplay the death and destruction by mentioning these things, i think people should not use the term genocide so lightly, it is offensive to those who have lived through it. i can understand saying such things due to how widespread it is, but people are even being led into supporting hamas, which is the absolute worst decision anyone could make if they want to support peace and stability. for that reason i am uncomfortable to join protests, while i understand the pain and grieving of a lot of these people, there is a significant number of extremists, especially where i live, who make me feel unsafe
(i didnt want to be disrespectful by not naming the people im talking about but i have been flagged before for using the name, ridiculously)
Sorry that you are flagged, everyone should be able to express themselves. Genocide is a difficult term, the statutory definition is vague and broad. Israel deHaan was killed 100 years ago today. So we can say that there is a tragic history of violence aimed at creating a Jewish ethno-state, with no regard for decency to anyone who stands in the way.
Your account of the two states being created is inaccurate. The jews accepted the division of the land even though it was not the best from their perspective and the Arabs did not. The two sides didn't go to war with each other as you claimed. Instead 5 Arab armies attacked the newly formed jewish state. The new jewish state was forced to defend itself and has been forced to defend itself ever since. Have you done a video on this? Would be very interesting!
Why would Arabs accept land division orchestrated by European colonizers. Forcing people to divide their land to make room for others you don’t want to deal with is insanity.
Perfect summary 👌🏻
As I'm sure you know, the "Palestinians" have ben offered an independent state several times since the British mandate, and each time have rejected the offer in favor of war that has an its end goal the eradication of Israel. So please don't claim to speak for them, and then misrepresent their actual words and deeds.
You still peddling that Joonazi Goebbelstein propaganda bs 😅
This was fab. Thanks Matt. Tough topic I understand, but appreciated you creating this
Great video. I just want to point out that Israel accepted the partition plan proposed by the UN from the very beginning that would give both Palestinians and Jews an independent state. It was the Arabs that rejected the UN partition plan and instead started a war with the newly formed Israel, and then Israel won this war. But this was not a war that Israel wanted or started. Also, each war that modern Israel fought after this was started when the surrounding Arab countries attacked it.
This story omits that the Muslim Arabs were offered their own state twice, once by the English and once by the UN, and turned it down twice. Makes me wonder how accurate the rest of this video is
Thanks for that. Very well laid out.
when you making a claim about 20 000 women and children killed. maybe you need to provide documented evidence to support this claim, and not rely on hamas propaganda.
That’s an amazing app for anyone who actually wants to do their own research on what’s going on
much appreciated, very good video. reminds me of the quote "if we don't learn from history we are doomed to repeat it"
I guess it depends on if your history is the truth or just embarrassing nonsense
In this survey timeline, is there any indication of what not to repeat, huh?
"...and if we do learn from history we are doomed to stand helpless as everyone else repeats it."
Nothing about this is history, this is a Qatari propaganda video
The history we are repeating currently is the barbarism of 19th century colonialism.
what have the mongols Not invaded at this point?
Italy
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Bermuda
The Moon
...not yet at least
@@4sythdude549 It's only a matter of time
I'd be interested in a similar video for Armenia.
Yes! I'm pretty sure a lot of people would be surprised to learn that in the last 420 years about 270 years the Azerbaijani population was the ethnic majority in what now is known as Armenia.
@@bneymanovHistory of Armenia would be like mostly Urartians in the ancient ages, Romans in the first millennium CE with a bit of Arab Caliphates, and Turkic dynasties in the 2nd millennium CE with a tiny amount of Mongol rule
@@nenenindonuarmenians has nothing to do with urartians. Their redorded history started with 5th century AD writings which in itself is borrowed from ephiopians…
@@gurbanabbasov Yes Urartians indeed have nothing to with Armenians just how Romans & Turks don't, I just mentioned them as a former ruling entity of what is now Armenia
Your charts are informative
22:27 When you got to the Mongols, my mind went directly to the running bit from early Crash Course World History. ^_^
Wait for it… the Mongols!
me too!
this running gag never will get old
Love it 😊
Same 😂
As a Palestinian living there i would like to thank you for the video its really helpful even for me whos living those actions
Perhaps the least controversial video there is.
His use of the historical method should quell some of that "controversy". However the more contemporary claims in the video, and the solutions he advocates for are kind of problematic, as addressed below with timestamps:
30:14 "...the (Ashkenazi) Jewish newcomers were fleeing heavy persecution (in Europe) and *didn't really have anywhere else to go*"
This is a statement which contradicts your earlier point on them (ie. secular/ atheist zionists) selecting multiple places to establish a nation-state. They had many places they could've gone to where the diaspora was living normal lives. They also had the option of settling other lands which were under colonial administration which may genuinely have been "empty", unlike the land they selected which was inhabited by *indigenous* Jew, Christians, Muslims and other religious groups with the same ethnic background (ie. the "mixed bag" you correctly referenced repeatedly).
30:55 *Worst ever genocide* is again, an objectively false statement. It's a popular talking point which is a form of genocide denial (ie. underplaying the many genocides outside of Europe which were quantifiably worse). Holocaust-esque genocides imposed by the colonial powers were the norm for the global majority - the reason it is (wrongly) portrayed as unique is because the Germans exerted that colonial violence *internally* onto Europe, which was deemed unacceptable by inter-colonial competition.
31:05 "Western countries were reluctant to take in Jews, thus the need for Jews to have their own state"
First, the attempts to establish a Jewish state on this land preceded these events by decades via the explicitly *colonial* Zionist movement espoused by Herzl in collusion with the British who sought to use their classic colonial tactic of ethnic division to weaken a land.
Second, Jews were living normal lives everywhere outside of ehite supremacist Europe.
Third, the UN created a plan with borders which mirrored those of apartheid South Africa, with the indigenous inhabitants relegated to disconnected "bantustans" while the colonially imported population were given land on top of the homes of the indigenous. Out of the thousands of ethnicities most do not have a nation-state, as there are under 200 nations. We already established there have been worse genocides across the global majority, so that can't be the answer. Why should Ashkenazi Jews be the exception, especially given their colonial nation-state would be established on inhabited land? The answer is: they shouldn't. The nation state is an inherently backwards idea which inevitably results in fascistic nationalism in an effort to establish (fabricate) a unified "national" identity, as opposed to the "mixed bag" which has existed in the region forever.
31:20 "The two sides went to war" War is an inaccurate descriptor; it was one side resisting a plan created by an outright colonial/imperialist entity (the UN was a tool of imperialism at this point in history; still is to an extent). They were being expelled from homes they inhabited for dozens of generations so the victims of the holocaust (ie. European victims of European colonial violence turned inwards onto Europe) could settle on top of those homes. It was indiegnous resistance to colonialism.
31:38 "In reponse around the same number of Jews were expelled from the neighboring Arab countries". While the rise of nationalism did occur is *some* regions of the Arab world as the colonial powers lost their grip and created deliberately divisive nation-state borders (recall my point on the trajectory the nation-state inevitably leads to under a diverse society), the major cause of the outflow of Mizrahi and Sephardi Jews into the new colonial state of "Israel" was caused by *Zionist extremists* either committing violent acts to stoke further religious division or outright kidnapping their Jewish children to import into "Israel".
This reply should probably be moved to the main level as a Comment. Some important takes/perspectives to consider.
@@af8828ok so you think you are right?
It is controversial.
@@af8828 You should make this a main comment (so more people and Matt can see it) with some citations of sources you based your arguments on, i agree with some of your points but i'm ignorant on others (like the pogroms on Jews post UN partition plan).
Matt, thank you so much for this video.
As a person living in the middle east and inside this conflict, I've been staying away from online content pertaining to it. I'm just sick and tired of people throwing out their hateful and ignorant opinions so carelessly, while living out their comfortable lives millions of mile away and not really understanding what it might be like to be born into this reality. The only thing worse is the hateful and biased of some people who were born into it, and are poisoned by generations of mutual distrust and national animosity.
When I saw your video I was very hesitant at first. But you've never let me down before, and you handled masterfully other controversial subjects in the past. I've been waiting for someone willing to just explain the dry facts of this millennia long story, address some of its complexities, and do it in a way that left me unsure of your personal political view (at least until the end, where you presented it with your disclaimer).
I could talk about where I agree and disagree with you, but I find it more important to appreciate your honest attempt at looking at both sides and their narratives, and recognizing the pain each one goes through.
And to finish with my own prayer - may the extremists on both sides that led us to this mess get to feel all the pain they bring down on us.
Praying that our and yours are safe.
You are smart for avoiding online propaganda. There is such a huge political disinformation campaign and they have NO qualms with completely misrepresenting history and emotionally manipulating the public.
The world needs far more people like you who simply refuse to engage with that stuff. We are all vulnerable to it, but some of us have a sense for when something is just not right.
I always tell my students, "if you're having a strong emotional reaction to the media, its not necessarily because you're learning the truth. Only trust the views you form based on doubt and debating yourself - no matter how uncomfortable those doubts make you. Strong convictions are often a weakness, not a strength."
Here is my read on it from a recent update in my research. Jews were expelled from England in 1290 until 1656. Christian Protestants were more kindly disposed to them, and among Christian philosophies was a seed that grew slowly into Zionism with an idea that Jews were key to the end times and that getting European Jews back to Jerusalem would encourage an end time where most Jews would go to hell and the remainder would pray to Jesus. Orthodox Jews were originally against the idea. For example, at the turn of the 20th century, there were approximately 350,000 Jews living in Britain. The number of Zionists among them was around 8,000. Many Christians were involved in proselytizing Zionism. By the time Balfour wrote his famous declaration there was already a healthy Christian Zionism movement for over a century and Jewish Zionism was not a popular notion until after the First ZIonist Congress in Basel in 1880. In fact, though scheduled originally to be held in Munich, it was due to criticism of Orthodox and Reformed Jews that it wasn't held there.
In short, Zionism doesn't go back thousands of years, any more than the nationalism it is based upon does.
Great comment. We all think we should get a say in it across the world yet it's not our conflict. Who do we think we are telling people what to do, who are caught up in the middle of it? Prayers for your survival and peace.
Can't fight pain with pain, just saying.
Wait. I know this is important stuff about things going on but the only thing I really took away from this is that Egypt had colonies outside of it's traditional borders during the pre dynastic period. I didn't know this and it kinda blew my mind a little bit.
The Dynasty numbers were decided before the period before Dynasty 1 was well understood. There is a Dynasty 0. That's who this refers to.
Egypt didn't have "traditional borders" at that time - no country did. What defines colonizing versus settling?
Traditional borders weren't really a thing until the Treaty of Westphalia iirc. Until then, it mattered more which cities owed allegiances and where
So Gaza was occupied by modern Egypt between 1948-1967?
1099-1187 crusaders. You continently left out that they butchered every Muslim and Jew in Jerusalem
what were the reasons for the crusades?
7:37 - The Bronze Age collapse didn't lead to the fall of Egypt. In fact, Egypt was the only major power in the region to survive. It hurt Egypt to be sure, but it continued to exist thereafter.
Both him and you are correct, he said the bronze age collapse lead to the downfall of Egypt which is true as Egypt did survive it but it was so weakened from the events that it continued declining while new emerging powers kept rising in power till Egypt itself was conquered by foreigners like the Libyan and Nubian dynasties (3rd intermediate period and late period in A. Egypt). So yes you are correct that Egypt did not fall in the bronze age collapse, but he is also correct that the collapse was one of the direct causes of Egypt's downfall. Alongside weak rulers who could at best slow the rapid decline of the Egyptian empire, such as all the Ramsisides from Ramses 5 and on.
yes! it is still survive today!
Yeah, but I think the important part, as far as the video is concerned, is that Egypt was so weakened by the Bronze Age Collapse that it shrank back to its core territory on the Nile delta, leaving a power vacuum in Canaan that allowed the rise of Philistia, Israel and Judea. Without the collapse, those states would never have existed and the Levant would probably be part of Egypt to this day.
@@neilturner5211 exactly.
@@neilturner5211 that is incorrect, the sea peoples that attacked Egypt were resettled (by Egypt) into Canaan to become a vassal state. Those sea peoples were called Palaset which later they became known the the Philistens.
And forgot to mention that some Jews were still living in Syria -palestina
some jews... all the ppl who excelled wer jews.. u take Olympic team... any noble laureate... any leader... it was jews... not some... many lived...
He mentioned it. Go back to when he was labeling "Mizrahi", "Sephardic", and "Ashkenazi" jews on the map - he may be using the terms wrong (or very simplistically) but that's when he mentioned it and then circled "Mizrahi".
So excited to watch this video!!!! Anytime I am asked "who started the fighting there" my only answer is "it depends when you start the story"
It’s true.
@@TracyD2 unfortunately when having to answer the question “who is the aggressor” it’s really going to be whoever is answering that question is going to answer with who they are aligned with. Because there are arguments for both unfortunately.
@@185MDE Both siding a genocide?
@@185MDE would you have both sided a genocide if the Palestinians were westerners?
@@philo9046 please don’t twist my words
Not a good job, Mr. Usefulcharts. You can do better research by investigating primary sources of both sides of the conflict and by focusing on the insanity of Muslim extremism which is at the heart of the conflict.
You saying that "israel" has the right to exist is like a French telling an Iraqi that lSlS has the right to create an "Islamic State" on top of his land. Anyone who think the same is invited to give them their land. It's not yours to state your opinion, especially when you know it was literally created by massacring the land owners and by stealing their land.
so you, a random youtube commenter, has the only right to decide who lives in the Land of Israel?
@@ImMrSpieglerLOL
I watched most of your videos and liked them very much.
I have a few comments about the Video where you miss to mention several things:
1. After the UN resolution the Arabs started a war, the war didnt start by itself.
2. The 750k Arabs that were displaced, most were told to leave by their own leadership and return once the Arabs win the war(which they didn't).
3. As you mentioned, the returning Jews bought the lands they settled in and didnt steal them.
4. The "fact" mentioned in the end are one sided against Israel and are not accurate: a. Hamas uses its own civilians as shields b. it was proven that journalists were part of Hamas and participated in terror acts.
C. The number of killed Gazans doesnt distinguish between terrorists and civilians, it was proven that at least half were part of Hamas (chieldren are all under 18 which many are already part of Hamas)
D. It was mentioned by the UN that there is not starvation in Gaza.
I can go on and on about comments about Israel that are showing your opinion about israel bombings that damaged sites, without any background or proof.
Unbelievable
He also forgot to explain what is Intifada, he sure thought it is neccesary to translate it to "uprising" but not to explain it means violence, t3rror and k1lling of civilians.
@@DIY-Mechanic no it doesn't. It means liberation
@@shafsteryellow ok iranian bot
@@DIY-Mechanic Iranian? Intifada is Arabic not farsi
2:35 Correction: not just the local population of the southern Levant, but the whole Levant was inhabited by Canaanites, to the point that the most important Canaanite archeological site nowadays is often considered to be the city of Ugarit, which is in modern day Syria. Later, northern Canaanites became known as Phoenicians by the Greeks and Romans, but preserved much of their culture and identity (including religion) until the end of antiquity.
Not the entire Levant, just west of the Jordan and Orontes. To the east it was populated by Arameans, and other Arab(ish) groups (edomites, nabateans, moabites, ammonites, so on). To the north there were Assyrians and Hittites and Armenians. The Arameans that migrated north became known as Syriacs.
@@habibi_sport312 Arameans, amorits,(edomites,Moabits,Ammonits are canaanites too
@@habibi_sport312 No, they weren't confined like that, they were all over the ancient world. The Canaanites spread across the Mediterranean and founded many colonies that became major cities (e.g., Carthage), even as far as Spain.
@@habibi_sport312 But I do get the point that the areas you mentioned were _mainly_ populated by these other peoples.
Ba'al Hammon be praised!
The British WERE NOT a colonial power in Palestine but a mandated power designated by the Leaague of Nations and based on international law. They had any right to administer Palestine anyway they liked. And they didn't sell the land to Jews, because they didn't own any land, Arabs were selling their land, and the British were only deciding how many Jews will be allowed to come and, eventually, buy the land (from the Arabs). Nobody forced Arabs in selling their land or manipulated them. Even the (future) grand mulfti of Jerusalem, known for nazi collaboration, sold his land to the Jews. Money taken from the prosecuted people and people whose lives were endangered was obviously very welcomed among the Arabs profiteering on the misery of others.
Severely underrated comment.
Correct and the land the jews were buying was swamp land or other such undesirable/uninhabitable land which they worked hard to make fruitful/habitable.
Near the end of the video he mentions that during British occupation of Palestine, the jews were buying land from the British. It is my understanding that the land was purchased directly from the Arab land owners at the time. To be honest I am not very well read on this issue and was wondering if anyone could provide a source or clarification that the land was purchased from "The British" rather than individual Arab land owners. Thanks
It was both.
The arabs sold it secretly because the people on the street didnt liked it.
But not all the land was owned by individuals, therefore sold by britian.
@@DIY-Mechanic got it. thank you
You are correct. Recommended reading, Palestine 1936: The Great Revolt and the Roots of the Middle East Conflict
Before the British occupation, the Jews immigrated to Palestine, and the wealthy Jews bought Palestinian lands from the Jews. But on the Palestinian side, this was normal because the Ottoman Empire was very tolerant of all sects and because there were Jews already living in Palestine, so it seemed natural. But the plan from the beginning was to occupy Palestine, and Britain occupied Palestine to accelerate the process of exodus of European Jews, and thus the occupation that we know now took place.
@@menjoali4164 occupied palestine from who or what?
Question: why are the British a colonial power with no right to sell land but it is assumed the Ottomon Turks had proper authority and were not similarly a colonial power ? Answer: because the Ottomons are not Western.
The point was about selling the land, not about colonial powers. The British sold the land and it is questionable whether they had the right to do so.
The British didn't have any "authority" to disperse the land of Palestine?😂😂 Yes they did. Look up League of Nations in 1922. It's sad that ppl get info from YT😂
Arafat was Egyptian, and like most Arabs in Palestine at this time, were not in Palestine before the early 20th century/
I appreciate you're trying to be diplomatic, but calling Palestinians in Gaza "second class citizens" is really a disservice. They have no rights of citizenship, real or pretend.
The last Jewish Revolt (against the Romans/Byzantines) was against Heraclius in early 7th century. There was an army of 20,000 Jewish soldiers allied with the Sasanians (Persians). The fact that they were able to raise an army of this size suggests there was still a sizeable Jewish population in the country at that point. The synagogues were not for pilgrims but for the permanent resident population. After the expulsion of Jews from Spain most resettled in the Ottoman empire, including many in "Palestine" (Southern Syria). You failed to mention many other facts pertinent to Gaza, and your suggestion that there was a Palestinian identity of any sort before the 1920s is absurd. You talk about Zionism but not pan Arabism, which was the driving force against it - not a romantic ideal of Palestinian self-determination. That fantasy emerged only in 1964, inspired by Nasser's pan Arabism alongside Soviet Cold War strategy. The video is historically illiterate and not at all "balanced".
Hamas has to surrender and accept reasonable terms. The idea that they should gain anything whatsoever for what they did on AND SINCE October 7th - it is preposterous to act as though it was a "just one little day." Hamas not only committed the atrocities of October 7th, but continued to hold onto Israeli territory for the first two months of the conflict, continues to hold hostages, continues to launch attacks of various kinds, and continues to express genocidal intent towards Jews/Israelis (signaling that they are still a serious threat). They are aligned and supported by Iran, a geopolitical enemy of Israel with genocidal intent based on religious intolerance. So to simply say, "oh "October 7th was immoral, but Israel is too" is to act as though Israel is "merely retaliating" in a disproportionate way, when in fact there are strategic objectives, and the notion that "simply doing nothing, and caving to Hamas' unreasonable demands" has never been a true option. The conclusion at the end of the video is shameful and earned you a thumbs down on an otherwise good video.
So many important details missing from this video. Like the fact that Israel left Gaza in 2005 and that the Palestinians refused all peace offers.
Hmm.. interesting, enlightening, though omitting a few facts, such as 1) The Arabs in Israel refused the UN division plan in 1948, 2) The settlements were removed from the Gaza strip in 2005, and yet Hamas fired rockets from there for 18 years and counting.. 3) Fatah doesn't quite agree for a Jewish state.. I mean, sometimes yes, sometime no, sometimes paying terrorists and their families, sometimes maybe.. 4) the 2nd intifada started after the Arabs decided a 98% of the west bank + gaza region was not enough for a state and decided to go to war.. and a few other facts.. but it was a valiant attempt to be "impartial", thanks!
One last thing the stats for civilian deaths you used are outdated. AP news did a article on this the 60% civilian death toll only applied to the first month of the war. Since then the civilian death toll has declined to less than 38%.
Palestinians are Arabs!
Philestines were of the sea people.
Their DNA can be traced to Crete, Greece, Malta and Portugal.
The Portuguese will tell you that they are descendants of the Phoenicians wich the Philestines were part of ( the sea people)
Should have just let the Sea Peoples keep it /s
That being said i think this is a really cool format for you guys. You should do this for major cities around the world. i bet people would love posters of the timeline of their city they live in!
better still if Rome never fell and Christianity and Islam never came to be.
Ok go tell that the Nebuchadnezzar II
Ramses lll is the one who make them settle there after a treaty with them those people likely where running from 300 years of drought in the region
Egypt was there 3500BCE they should have kept it lol 😂
Also I didn’t expect to see you outside of foxhole videos 😂
@@jasperchance3382considering Rome spread Christianity you'd have to make Jesus not die and Roman Polytheism to remain.
Sir, I object to you calling the Nabateans Arabs, they were not. They were descendents of Achaemenids that were abandoned when the Seleucid Empire collapsed. There was no "arab empire", there was the Sasanian Empire that fell to the Rashidun Caliphate, but the Caliphate were not Arabs.
Arabs as a group did not emerge until the end of the Ottoman Empire. The Arabs were a group that formed primarily at the urging of Hussein bin Ali al-Hashimi who led what he called the great Arab revolt. Prior to this 'Arab' was a Greek exonym for the people of the Arabian peninsula, which also happened to be a Greek exonym. Arabs as a group did not exist until the Great Arab Revolt in 1916. And they're only called Arabs due to the hellenization of the region convincing the hellenized people that lived there two thousand years later that the ancient name for their peninsula was Arabia, which it was not.
And of course that youve neglected to mention Israel left Gaza in 2005 as part of a peace deal, which ended up blowing in its face in the form of a bloody murderous intifada
You are generally pretty good which is why I like watching your videos. However one mistake at around the 17:00 mark: you talk about the year of the Second Jewish War as being 135 BCE when that was definitely 135 CE.
31:52
Though some Arab-Palestinians we're expelled out of their homes, some were encouraged to leave by the Arab armies
33:30
Israel didnt "agree" with anyone - israel unilaterally disengaged. Using "agree" implies some kind of agreement between Palestinians and Israelis.
35:04
Left to starve - calories per person that get into Gaza are in line with humanitarian guidelines. I wonder whos left inside to redistribute food to civilians.
"Second class citizens" - last i checked, and you confirmed - Gaza is completely controlled by Hamas. All consequences of firing at another sovereign nation apply here - and it doesn't matter that the government in question is an Islamic dictatorship. Thats like saying that the US has responsibility over the Cubans.
Thank you for your explanation. As a Jew who live this conflict, I hope there will be peace and I think 2 state solution is the only solution, BUT it can't be in those nearly days, it's far too dangerous. The government of Palestine is extremist and terrorist whose main goal is to wipe out Israel completely. As long as the anti-Semitism and extreme views of Palestinians and their government are maintained, it is impossible to live in coexistence. Any attempt to establish two states right now will lead to a bloody war, even worse than what already exists. For years, missiles have been fired at Israel from the north and the south without any provocation. when Israel withdrew from Gaza in 2005, Hamas took control of it. If it withdraws from Judea and Samaria right now, it will be a terrorist Hamas state in the heart of Israel and that is simply something that is impossible right now. The only way to reach peace is when both sides realize that they must recognize each other .Israel is currently surrounded and attacked by a proxies of the Islamic Republic of which Hamas is a part of, as well as Hezbollah and the Houthis. Terrorism must be condemned. It is much bigger than you think. And the fact is that at every pro-Palestinian demonstration in Europe and the United States, the flags of these terrorists are being waved. They don't really care about the Palestinians, it's just a way to continue spreading radical Islam and sharia law.
Showing the modern (post-1948) boundaries of the West Bank while talking about historical Gaza is confusing and presents a false dichotomy
Well that's like, your opinion, man.
Please start making the distinction between "archaeological record" and "archaeological theory." The record contains artifacts that explicitly indicate something. Such as an inscription, definite material evidence, etc. Theory pertains to ideas, perhaps mainstream, that COULD be supported by findings. Archaeologists won't love you but historians certainly will!
Wouldn't that be hypothesis then?
@@sonicgoo1121 not necessarily. An hypothesis comes earlier in the process before any research has been done.
In the Old Testament, "Israel" is mentioned around 2,300 times,
Oral Tradition (Before 1200 BCE)
Many of the stories, laws, and teachings found in the Bible were passed down orally
Early Written Texts (1200-1000 BCE) However, oral tradition continued alongside the written texts.
The New Testament was written between approximately 50 CE and 100 CE. And Israel was mentioned 68 times.
a lot of misinformation, leaving things out for the sake of your ideology. unsubscribed just now, it’s a shame your channel which have been nothing but informative have had it’s downfall. “As a jew” you can keep whining and pretend you know the situation best when the information you get consists of only the most left-wing newspaper in israel and more anti-israel ones around the world. I thought you were better than this.. turns out I’m wrong.
Pali having a meltdown
Mind you he's not even a Jew but a white American who converted to Marry.
@@ChaneloweenzCanadian
"Indigenous peoples" in the contemporary school of thought means a group of people that has a special relationship with their traditional territory and experience subjugation and discrimination under a dominant cultural model. Therefore, "indigenous peoples" in Israel nowadays are Palestinians.
Another good video.
Being pedantic though, you say that it wasn’t until Roman times that the land was referred to as Palestine. I’ve just finished Herodotus’ Histories, and he definitely calls this region Palestine, several centuries before the time period you mention. Before even the Macedonian period. I’m not an expert on ancient translations or etymology or anything, so maybe this doesn’t contradict your statement after all.
Anyway, really appreciate your work generally, thanks a lot and keep it coming!
The usage didn’t become common until the roman times, as far as I’m aware
True.
Herodutes traveled the coasts of the Mediterranean. And was a Greek.
As said in the video, the coast was mostly ruled by the Philistines and the inner body of the land by the Israelites.
And Herodouts was a Greek communixating with Greek settlers therefore they probably told him the region is Philistine, hence being refered by him as Philistine.
I doubt the word Palestine as we know it today mentioned there.
The video has commentary that is rather out of place.
Even if we accept the video claim that the modern "Palestinian national identity"" is over a century old ,the fact is that the newly formed identity DID NOT bring with it sovereignty over ANY territory in the region least of all Gaza
. The narrative of "Palestinian people" being "victimized" or "colonized" on their own land is therefore unsustainable. Before the British/ league of Nations mandate, sovereignty belonged to the Ottoman empire not to any yet to be formed Palestinian national identity.
It is very confusing that this video claims to be supposedly unbiased.
I will refer only to some specific facts:
31:21 "The two sides went to war"
32:18 "A Six-day war broke out"
What is the reason why the person narrating this does not dare to say things as they were? Doesn´t he know the expression "to declare war"? In both cases one side declared war on the other with the purpose of exterminating it.
In any case, the video is full of omissions throughout history and inaccuracies such as calling the population of Arab origin Palestinians in the events that occurred prior to Arafat, who was the one who reintroduced that terminology.
This video is nothing more than amateur information for UA-cam viewers but pretends to be for scholars.
The serious problem is that people watch these types of summaries and consider themselves scholars of the subject, while it deals with highly sensitive issue.
Finally, I will never understand the insistence on calling the British a colonialist power (yes, they are) but not calling the Ottomans a colonialist power (they were much more, by far). It is truly astonishing ignorance.
I agree with you on all these points. Well said.
So the Bible is true huh 🤔 Good stuff I kinda always believed Jesus was God.😢
Played out the same.
You forgot to mention that the IDF are still trying to find their hostages….and the hostages of the USA. Also, you forgot to mention that Hamxs leaders said they want to do the “October 7” over and over again. You also for got to mention how many tons of aid Israel has facilitated. You also forgot to mention the stats of the “woman and children” of Gaza that were “killed” came from the Hamxs Health Department…..all related to those “immoral” (as you said accurately) fighters/rapists where civilian clothes. Their stats cannot be trusted. Oh, by the way, the Aid that is given to Gaza is all being highjacked by Hamxs. The civilians/combatant death ratio is the best ever in history in urban warfare ever in the history of the world. The IDF are the MOST moral army currently in the world…..trying to protect their tiny nation. Hence it is a DEFENSE FORCE. All Hamxs has to do is lay down their arms, free the hostages and surrender to the IDF….especially Sinwar. His name says it all. It was a SIN for him to start the WAR.
would've been nice if you explained a bit more about the uprise of muhammad, the holy war he started (late 620's CE) in which the Banu Qurayza (a Jewish tribe) got ethnically cleansed/enslaved after which islamic arabs colonized Jewish land, and other islamic conquests, since these points were crucial to the development of the relationship between muslims and Jews. Also could've been more transparent about how the nakba started, may 15th 1948 palestinians invaded Israëli territory with the help of other arab countries thus initiating violence. other than that this video is pretty good👍
Yes he has missed a small number of very bad actors in the historical timeline most of which pushed the historical hatred and dislike that feeds the current propaganda and so probably better left laid under the surface so as not to feed the current frensy our world seems to be having at present. 🙂
Your summation of the current state of affairs ignores the existential threat that a continued Hamas presence represents to Israel. You also ignore that the Gazan civilian deaths (the numbers being reported by a self serving Hamas) are the result of Hamas purposely intermixing civilian and military installations. You also ignore the unheard of attempts to warn civilians of upcoming military operations with instructions of where to go for safety. You also ignore that Hamas has denied civilians access to these safe havens, even going so far as to shoot civilians that try to leave. Hamas is the author of the death and destruction in Gaza. You also ignore in your timeline the many times Israel has agreed to a two state solution only to be rejected by the Arabs. Ultimately, the Arabs do not care about an independent "Palestinian" state but are instead wholly committed to the complete destruction of Israel and the murder of all Israeli Jews. The chant "From the River to the Sea" picks up where Hitler left off.
2006+ has some more insights like the Fatah thrown off buildings and mass genocide by Hamas. The issue is that as long as Hamas is in charge, there will be no 1 state, 2 state, or any other solutions to the region.
Nice history presentation. Poor understanding of recent history. No mention of the ongoing proxy wars in the Middle East, how the US / NATO has been utilizing Israel and its people for their purposes; while Iran, backed up by Russia, has been developing and financing ‘freedom fighters’ groups like Hamas and Hizbala. At the bottom line, like in previous times, it were the larger global forces that caused the misery of the local people, more than the local people being inherently hateful forwards each other (as the archeological record of mixed racial genetic shows…). But of course as an American content creator you are blind to your fault as a nation that seeded chaos in the region for several decades, and you somehow single out the Israelis as uniquely evil, while you admit that you lack clear/validated/historic information about the numbers and intentions due to the fog of war.
Dind you forgot the Assyrian-Israeli war, especially the Northern Kingdom of Israel.
thanks for taking your time to research and supply a mostly factual and objective video about the history of the city.
about 19:10 (bombing of Porphyrios), I have not found any concrete proof of damages to the church and infact found a post with pictures showing the church is unharmed and only the building next to it(where hamas was hiding rocket) is destroyed
about 31:00 (prtition plan), the plan was agreed upon by majority and the arab nations from all borders came together to wage war against all the jews so that the land will be cleaned, but the jews were able to defend themselves
"didn't really have the right to give away any land" ?
By that logic Lebanon shouldn't exist. Syria shouldn't exist. Pretty much every country on the planet shouldn't be existing, shouldn't be taken or "given" to anyone.
"but it never happened. Instead the two sides went to war" ?
One side accepted, they were happy with anything -whatever, just to have a place they could call it home. But it never happened because one side rejected ANY version of a jewish state, no mater how big or small. Two sides went to war? One side started the war ! One side attacked one side defended itself.
"living as second class citizens" ?
Like 2 million Arabs living in Israel proper as Israeli citizens? Second class citizens like supreme court judges? Or Palestinians in Gaza? Living in a practically sovereign state, ruled and controlled by Hamas. Were they treated as second class citizens by other Palestinians -fellow citizens ? Or is it only in the West Bank?
Those lands were "given' to the people already inhabiting them not some strangers from Europe
@@Alex-ck1bw It's just that jews were ALSO the people inhabiting those lands - since forever. Small number. Tiny, microscopic number, whatever. And before there was Israel "strangers from Europe" were moving there in large numbers for decades. It's called migration. Which you don't mind I presume, when strangers are moving to Europe, illegally.
The point is: It's not as if the land was taken from one group and given to the other -total stranger. That's distorted -false narrative. The larger group was given most of the land. Smaller group was given a tiny patch of desert, swamp, no oil. They accepted anything, they were happy just to have a country. The other group rejected. Not b/c the land was given to some strangers from another continent. They rejected the existence of ANY jewish state. That was the problem and still is to this day.
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@@Alex-ck1bw You're not making any sense, kiddo.
Bro what you talking about 3:00 , Israeli culture is completely different from Canaanites, you said lets look at facts and you denying most archeological and historical facts about Exodus and Canaan conquest by Joshua, there is an ARCHEOLOGICAL facts about crossing red sea, felled walls of Jericho and so on. What you are saying is just fabrication and has nothing to do not with history nor with archeology.
At 31:17 you mention the UN partition plan and you say "it never happened" I feel like you are being a little dishonest here. This is generally the moderate opinion of how the borders should look today, and yet it was not the Jews that rejected this plan it was the Arabs. I'm not going to claim that I don't understand their feelings. If I was a Palestinian during this time I too would've probably rejected this plan, but to just gloss over that fact seems a little biased.
Also "yeah there was a war in 48 oopsie" is a helluva way to say "the Arabs launched a genocidal campaign and failed". At least they mentioned the expulsion of Jews from the MENA in a *passing* sense, of course not commenting on why this happened.
You're right, but I want to clearify that the "Arabs" that rejected the plan were actually one very specific arab named Haj Amin alHusseini (aka The Mufti), who was basically the dictator of the arab society in Palestine throughout 1920-1948. Him and his supporters have slaughtered every arab who openly opposed his views. He was the one to reject the plan and initiate a war with his armed gangs, in the name of the arabs.
We always say "arabs" did things but it was actually him who pulled most of the strings in this time period. I feel like speaking about Israel-Palestine without mentioning him is like speaking about ww2 without mentioning Hitler.
Right. Not mentioning him, his visit to Hitler to get the Jews of mandate Palestine in Germany's hands, not mentioning the other Arab nations that attacked Israel in 48'. It was just him...
i actually think that the role of Mister alHusseini was ineeed quite large and shouldn't be underestimated. He was a big fan of nazi ideology and hitlers vision of a "final solution" and became an offical member of the Waffen SS. Later on he was living in Nazi Germany and became a leading role in a radio programm, that was broadcasting from out of a little town called Zeesen into northern africa and arab states filled with classic nazi propaganda (because megalomaniac nazi-germany was also aiming to conquer that area). That is one of the main passages how anti-jewish stereotypes that were forged by the nazi's found their way into muslimic countries. before it wasnt a such a big topic. so it is fair to say that alHusseini as an extremist played a very defining role in the beginnings of this coflict and was aiming to silience moderate voices from within arab communities.
The Arabs only rejected it because the sionists, not Jews, where quite open with their plan to forcefully expel Arabs and also take more land! Wich they did!
😔 Before this video, i trusted Matt to be unbiased, objective, and factual in his presentations. I’ve shared this channel with others numerous times in places where i can connect with people who agree with my stance against bias, and for truth and fairness. I absolutely loved many previous Useful Charts videos and series over the past couple of years. He gained my trust, so i fully expected this to be the best and most fair video i’d seen on this issue. But it was far from it. I honestly think this was even more biased than the Real Life Lore video, which is shocking. The significantly imbalanced language and selection & omission of critical information was honestly egregious in this video, and it’s sad that so many people in the comments are acting like or somehow not seeing these issues and saying it’s fair or unbiased… It absolutely isn’t. Yes there are worse examples online of more severe bias, but his video beating the low standard of awful channels doesn’t make this okay.
This wasn’t enuff to make me completely lose all of my respect for Matt Baker / Useful Charts, but the way this was handled has definitely made me more skeptical of the integrity behind the channel. It is in fact still better than many other channels, but that’s no excuse. And while i can offer grace because we all mess up and like everyone i too have said the wrong things and misled online before. But we all need to improve and hold each other accountable. And i hope to see this channel fulfill it’s potential in a more responsible way.
I know people will respond with strawman defenses, acting like i’m making an unreasonable demand to include every relevant detail ever, and that’s not the case. It’s a matter of heavily distorting perceptions through intentional wording and on/screen imagery, trying to make things look a certain way that is extremely inaccurate. In other words, bias. That’s the problem here.
:/ I like you, Matt. But this is dangerous. So many people are gripped by evil, tribalistic ideologies revolving around this issue (and many other issues), and this is was a an opportunity to dismantle that tribalism in favor of waking people up to the fact that people are not homogeneous groups but instead individuals and that human life is equally valuable independent of arbitrary, superficial, and in ate characteristics that are irrelevant to their worth and character. And you in some things you said got close to showing that. There are things i appreciate in this video like in all the videos of yours that i saw before it, which i loved across the board until now. So i’m not saying this was all bad. But i truly believe that several key moments, worse as it went on, made the overall package of this video ultimately one that does harm by creating misunderstandings, misconceptions, and fueling of biases, that truly seem intentional. At first i was thinking maybe you were overcompensating for the anticipated accusations of Jewish bias, by trying too hard to seem “balanced” by trying too hard to make the so-called Arab “side” look as good as possible, but eventually it became clear that you are biased in this issue just in the opposite way one might expect.
The proper lesson here should be that there is no Arab “side” or Jewish “side” in this things, that masses of millions of unique people don’t operate as homogeneous hive-minds, but that instead it’s all about individuals, and their own character and actions. That our identity is actually simply who we choose to be, and that nonsensically trying to tie our sense of identity to superficial things and abstract concepts outside ourselves which we have no control over like countries and perceived ethnic groups is always dangerous. And that there’s no reason to try to make any people look better or worse than they are; we should just be honest and use consistent, fair standards. And realize that CONTEXT matters significantly. We shouldn’t downplay the suffering of certain innocents or artificially amplify those of others because of where they’re from or anything like that. People are people. Everywhere. All people deserve to be able to defend themselves but intentionally targeting innocents who have no fault at all should never be misconstrued as somehow defensive or retaliatory.
And such noble ideas are undermined by editing decisions like concealing the circumstances of the 1948 war, and the Khartoum Resolution, and strangely going out of your way to mention “only” targeting soldiers once Arab armies were doing the conquering yet completely glossing over the intentional slaughter of neighborhoods of innocent families carried out by a government that explicitly outlined its religiously sanctioned, anti-Jewish genocidal motivations in its founding charter, instead just saying it’s “wrong” without saying what happened and while immediately showing pictures of destroyed buildings in Gaza and emphasizing the evil of carelessness for collateral damage by “Israel” (more accurately, IDF leadership and pilots - most Israelis have nothing to do with that) but not showing any images of, say, a bullet-ridden kibbutz or bloody cribs in Israel caused by intentional targeting of civilians by Hamas and other Islamist terror groups. Apparently when an Arab army allegedly aims to adhere to the standard practice of “only” targeting soldiers, it’s worth an honorable mention, but when Arab armies specifically target civilians it’s not worth mentioning at all, even while people are still suffering from the latter.
It’s just really disappointing, man.
Really really disappointed in this channel. I guess z indoctrination is just impossible to un learn esp when people don't call it out for the hateful ideology it is and pretend it's something else
@@Alex-ck1bw It’s definitely not impossible to “unlearn”. Many people do change their views & beliefs via breaking away from their indoctrination. I eventually learned my way out of the confirmation bias filters i looked at the world thru when i was younger which i’d learned from Christianity. Many prominent conservative voices today were once leftist activists. And Matt has gone thru a journey out of his original religion, into some others, was atheist for a while and landed on some semi-secular, symbolic, kind of deistic form of Judaism. Here’s clearly willing to have his views changed, which is why i haven’t lost all respect for him. I think this is just a matter of bias, which i think is something we all need to “unlearn” eventually, as it’s a natural instinct until we realize that we have it and why we need to let go of it. And he’s at least not as far on the extreme as many people out there. I have hope, i think he just is making some mistakes in his worldview, which we all do at some point or another. None of us are perfect.
It’s a very biased video and reveals a lack of ability to learn history, let alone doctoral level knowledge.
That was a lot of history and information, yet, I still fail to find "why HAMAS' attack on October 7th is (morally) wrong", a lot of people seems to throw that they were wrong but no one tells why, like is it capturing captives or the surprise attack. It's been more than 6 months since the ISRAELI ha'artz journal investigation found that the civilians killed in October 7th were killed by the IDF, if it is about captives, they live better and healthier than even me 😅, if it is about certain casualities, the state of israel announced that every grown up is a militant, but still they weren't attacked, they forcefully serve in the military, so you wanna tell me if a full grown man comming out with a gun is just a civilian wanting peace?
somehow Matt me tions it but concludes something else, jews lived peacefully amongst both Arabs and Muslims, they were even protected during the 10 crusades you mentioned, hence why there were jews in pre-ww1 Palestine, the jews kicked out of Arabic countries were kicked by occupiers: the earliest North African country to gain independence was at 1955(6), syria and lebanon at that time still suffere the British mandate like Palestine was. and one more point how can you tell Ashkenazi jews had 60% middle eastern genes? loke they lived out in europe for more than a millenia, they are prohibited of taking DNA tests because more than half of them will proof otherwise(that they aren't related to the land).