First Dirt: Is the New Toyota Tacoma Trailhunter BETTER Than the TRD Pro?

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    ( www.alltfl.com ) Watch more videos from TFL Studios! In this video, Andre and Roman check out both the hybrid 2024 Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro and the new kid on the block: the overland-focused Trailhunter! What are the differences between the two trucks?
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    0:00 Intro
    0:54 New TRD Pro Off-road
    14:13 TRD Pro walkaround
    18:09 New Trailhunter Off-road
    31:41 Trailhunter walkaround
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  • @motoapes3623
    @motoapes3623 2 місяці тому +651

    $63,900 before markups.
    Quick math:
    $6,400 down (10%)
    + tax and interest (7.64)
    60 Months Payment: $1260
    @12.5% of take home pay you should be earning $157,500 annually to be looking at this car (assuming the appropriate taxes are coming out of your paycheck).
    National average wage (US Census): $63795.
    Percentage making $150k annually: approx. 8.3%
    5 Year price increase Toyota Tacoma TRD Pro:
    2019 MSRP: $42,960
    2024 MSRP: $63,900
    49% increase
    Wage growth 2019-2024: 1.7% (Source: US Treasury)
    These price increases far outpace inflation and wage growth.
    Toyota is targeting 8% of total market. Or people who just want to act fiscally irresponsible😂.

    • @simplebroco9577
      @simplebroco9577 2 місяці тому +56

      I appreciate this comment. Thank you for the info!

    • @jppilotadventurez5251
      @jppilotadventurez5251 2 місяці тому +50

      This comment need to be pinned! Introduce some sense onto people.

    • @XloMotion
      @XloMotion 2 місяці тому +51

      Taco bros will completely ignore this comment.

    • @tylerkstevens
      @tylerkstevens 2 місяці тому

      Money supply has increased over 50 % so it’s just tracking true inflation. CPI is fake. Wages increase last. Centillion effect.

    • @tigerbiterhater
      @tigerbiterhater 2 місяці тому +15

      Or we can just accept the fact that there’s actually people out there with money. People still buying over msrp. 🤔

  • @davidvasquez1269
    @davidvasquez1269 2 місяці тому +144

    After taxes, you’re looking at 67-70k. Insane for a midsize truck.

    • @laithalmas8413
      @laithalmas8413 2 місяці тому +11

      more than that, you'll never get a TRD Pro or Trailhunter that isn't loaded with $5k worth of options that you don't want or need

    • @Cocky.Rooster
      @Cocky.Rooster 2 місяці тому +5

      And only 2 usable seats 🫤

    • @dansnowman29
      @dansnowman29 2 місяці тому +6

      Dealer mark-up, or whatever they call it. More like $80k

    • @Ryles890
      @Ryles890 2 місяці тому +3

      Be a 90k truck in Canada, by the time you finance it or 6 or 7 years at the new "industry standard loan rates" probably cost 110-120k.

    • @borhotkaar3480
      @borhotkaar3480 2 місяці тому +4

      And a 1200$ payment….

  • @4rr44E
    @4rr44E 2 місяці тому +381

    $65K!!! One word… nope.

    • @scoobygms210
      @scoobygms210 2 місяці тому +24

      People paid 75k for the first gladiators and people been paying almost 90k for fully loaded F150s the world's crazy !! No one likes money !!

    • @felixgato718
      @felixgato718 2 місяці тому +14

      65k could get a used TRX or Raptor. I think 50k for the TRX and 55k for the TH.

    • @NM-235
      @NM-235 2 місяці тому

      It has cost 60k to get a well equipped rubicon for years. This is what happens when the government shuts down the economy and prints money for 3 years. It’s not political it’s simple economics. Increasing the supply of money without a commensurate increase in the size of the economy results in reduced value of the money ( inflation ). The published rates are lies. Look at the price of groceries or houses everything is up 20-50%. But wait gas isn’t up because we kept draining the strategic oil reserves.

    • @jeremyf5051
      @jeremyf5051 2 місяці тому +19

      Wait, $65k? Do you know where we can get them that cheap? Imagine dealer markups will make it $70k at least.

    • @ezneil5092
      @ezneil5092 2 місяці тому +3

      ​@@scoobygms210Bold for you to asume alot of people don't have the kind of money and just keep the money themselves be passive and stay poor lol😂

  • @scotchbrite1241
    @scotchbrite1241 2 місяці тому +66

    That price is outrageous Toyota!

    • @mansoor123hussain
      @mansoor123hussain 2 місяці тому

      I hear what you’re saying but we live in an era where people pay $8 for a damn coffee

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Місяць тому +1

      @@mansoor123hussainnever in my life would I expect people to pay 70k for a 4cyl midsize truck. That’s certified insanity right there 😂

  • @lordcorgi6481
    @lordcorgi6481 2 місяці тому +54

    I can't wait for the Sienna Trailhunter review 🤣

    • @drive-channel1834
      @drive-channel1834 Місяць тому

      I've got 2023 Corolla Trailhunter GR Sport TRD Offroad, it's nice. Full-time 4WD, triple Difflocks, etc

  • @theirthereandtheyre2947
    @theirthereandtheyre2947 2 місяці тому +66

    $40k was my max for what I paid for a new truck. I wanted a midsize but settled on a Ram 1500. There has to be a huge market correction. A new truck is only new for a very short period of time, after that you’re stuck with a huge bill for 84 months.

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo 2 місяці тому +2

      Ordered my 2021ram1500 classic tradesman quad cab 4x4 v6 with lots of extras paid 40k with taxes and a extended warranty last good good deal 👍 before prices went crazy 😮

    • @270eman
      @270eman 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I got the 23 Tacoma SR5 4x4 V6 DBL cab 6ft bed for 41 with the technology package. You can still get a 24 SR 4x4 for less than 38 or SR5 for 43. I got the 23 for the V6.

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo 2 місяці тому

      @@270eman good price nice truck 🛻👍

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 2 місяці тому +1

      @@TomStarcevich-fb3qo I paid $53k for my loaded w/moonroof 2024 ZR2, but I'm ok with that as it has more power, and more offroad capability with it's front and rear lockers, and better offroad angles and clearance, and smaller size and turning radius, oh, and the 360deg cameras and dual TFT screens as I usually go out alone. I might give up some cargo and towing capacity, but that's a good tradeoff for the better offroad capability.

    • @TomStarcevich-fb3qo
      @TomStarcevich-fb3qo 2 місяці тому +1

      @@kx8960 nice truck 👍 good price

  • @TimSaundersC4
    @TimSaundersC4 2 місяці тому +75

    I did the math, and the Trail Hunter, priced at $63,000 USD, is equivalent to $86,000 CAD. In Ontario, there's a 13% tax, so the total cost for the Trail Hunter is $97,000 CAD.

    • @kabloosh699
      @kabloosh699 2 місяці тому +23

      At those prices they are making the Ranger Raptor look like a deal at 57-58k and the ZR2 the best bang for your buck at 48-52k.

    • @shmac96
      @shmac96 2 місяці тому +17

      Dont forget your carbon tax thats meant to help save the environment by taking even more of your money. Good times!

    • @jtomtl
      @jtomtl 2 місяці тому +8

      86K for a small truck, No means no, I am a Toyota guy but it’s ridiculous pricing

    • @mknervy
      @mknervy 2 місяці тому +4

      yup, now add fees and let's say you finance some of that 97k, so interest as well, and now it's well above 100k CAD. so f'ed up I'd say!

    • @tobinkern5389
      @tobinkern5389 2 місяці тому +8

      Sounds like Canada sucks

  • @nm-qt2hb
    @nm-qt2hb 2 місяці тому +56

    "smaller kids or legless friends"🤣🤣

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 2 місяці тому +1

      ...I don't have any legless friends....YET...(a few moments later, with a chainsaw...)...🤣

    • @nm-qt2hb
      @nm-qt2hb 2 місяці тому +2

      @@kx8960
      The seats may be fantastic for the Baja 1000. I doubt that any person doing normal off-road adventures will ever benefit from them. Not to mention the loss of rear leg room.

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 2 місяці тому +1

      @@nm-qt2hb Yup. To me, it's a gimmick, and looks really weird. Oh, and what happens when those shocks start leaking oil all over the interior?

    • @ellerybice3787
      @ellerybice3787 Місяць тому

      Remove the rear seats, plant them in the bed. Like the old Subaru Brat.
      Now your interior has room to PARTY! 🤓😎🥸🤩🥳🥳🥳

    • @rickeycooley9139
      @rickeycooley9139 Місяць тому

      My back seat in my Tacoma has never had any one on it. It’s used for hauling guns lots of em.

  • @theaveragewoodsman6002
    @theaveragewoodsman6002 2 місяці тому +16

    That price is insane. Especially with the incoming dealer markups.

  • @dawg7750
    @dawg7750 2 місяці тому +33

    I'll keep my 2021 Tacoma Off Road thanks.

    • @useryggfdcc
      @useryggfdcc 2 місяці тому +3

      Installed Bilstein 6112 front, rear ICON AAL with Bilstein 5100.
      Steel front bumper with 9000lb winch.
      EXCELLENT TRUCK.

    • @weemackee
      @weemackee 2 місяці тому +2

      Same. I payed $38k for my 2020 TRD Off Road with Premium package in April 2020. If I were to put $30k in upgrades into it, it'd be a superior vehicle to any stock TRD Pro.

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Місяць тому

      @@weemackeeI’m sure you’ll look cool with that going over the speed bumps in the mall parking lot 😂

  • @Chuffmaster654
    @Chuffmaster654 2 місяці тому +5

    The tech bros of Boulder and Denver will love this!

  • @ShadowBend
    @ShadowBend 2 місяці тому +14

    Nissan Frontier looking real good these days. This price is wild. If purely offroading, maybe this makes sense. But it cant even fit 4 decent size humans comfortably.

    • @Ldiepian
      @Ldiepian 2 місяці тому +4

      got my 23 Pro4x for 38k & that's looking even more like a steal now

    • @lulop022882
      @lulop022882 2 місяці тому +1

      Local dealership is selling frontiers like hot cakes. Co worker needed a small pickup and bought a frontier based on my recommendation. She told me the dealership had just sold 28 the day before 🙀. I’m a Toyota die hard, but come one Toyota. I’m hoping they release a Stout

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Місяць тому

      @@lulop022882I leased one in 22 for a year while I was living in Montana for work, it was a awesome truck it was a fully loaded pro 4x if I remember correctly the MSRP on it was 45-48 k. It’s still a naturally aspirated V6 and it was awesome in the snow.

    • @4rr44E
      @4rr44E Місяць тому +1

      Bought my 22 Pro-4X for $41K with everything except leather. I’m super thrilled with it and am glad I picked it given Toyota going to a 4cyl and sky-high prices.

  • @frh-freerangehuman
    @frh-freerangehuman 2 місяці тому +6

    Andre diligently changing the conversation away from sausage 😂

  • @wiks101
    @wiks101 2 місяці тому +57

    63K for a midsize WOW - I would never be a customer at that money!

    • @tobinkern5389
      @tobinkern5389 2 місяці тому +1

      This is the midsize Raptor or TRX. And how much are those trucks? $63K aint bad

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard 2 місяці тому +9

      @@tobinkern5389 Actually the Ranger Raptor is 55K.. So yeah Toyota is bad and it takes a few years for them to work out the bugs! Just look at the reliability of the new Tundra! Not paying 66K for a truck made in Mexico either!

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 2 місяці тому +1

      @@JPEBeard And the Ranger is $7k over the Chevy ZR2 so why not get that?

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard 2 місяці тому

      @@Dusdaddy Good point but Chevy not been very reliable IMO. Plus they don't have a v6 as well! Besides I rarely see a ZR2 on the lot!

    • @garykarczewski6678
      @garykarczewski6678 2 місяці тому

      Agreed. Over priced junk with way too many features that are not needed. Better to sell with less to make the trucks more affordable. If you want additional crap that doesn't make the truck really any better the go aftermarket.

  • @brandonrides8953
    @brandonrides8953 2 місяці тому +28

    $65k and made in Mexico. Maximum profit!

    • @signkutter9218
      @signkutter9218 2 місяці тому +4

      You act like "made in Mexico" is something to be ashamed of ...get over it ...toyota made in the USA doesn't mean any better.

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 2 місяці тому +5

      @@signkutter9218it makes it better from a GDP perspective but that concept is likely beyond your grasp

    • @signkutter9218
      @signkutter9218 2 місяці тому +1

      @mattbrew11 So the quality of your U.S assembled truck is better because of GDP? 😅🤣... 👍. Tacoma has been built in Mexico for over a decade....they also build the Hilux ...

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 2 місяці тому +3

      @@signkutter9218 ...LOL Still missing the concept....

    • @signkutter9218
      @signkutter9218 2 місяці тому

      @kx8960 silly boy talkin economics on the subject of build quality

  • @EdwardVarner
    @EdwardVarner 2 місяці тому +32

    Car companies are smoking some good stuff when determining pricing these days.

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 2 місяці тому

      Talk to your government 😂

    • @qbanlink25
      @qbanlink25 2 місяці тому +2

      @@beexiong2995 if you live here it's your government too pal, want to change it, vote Red this Nov otherwise put up or shut up.

    • @deedspm9
      @deedspm9 2 місяці тому +1

      Don't buy them. But the people who can buy them still will and the prices will continue to soar

    • @JohnSmith-zi9or
      @JohnSmith-zi9or 2 місяці тому +2

      Companies can't do anything about inflation. We voted for this. But hey, no more mean tweets.

    • @andyleo8418
      @andyleo8418 2 місяці тому

      It's not crazy if it sells.

  • @curtl1694
    @curtl1694 2 місяці тому +40

    Ranger Raptor or Trailhunter?
    “Raptor of course” is what Roman was thinking.

    • @chrisb9478
      @chrisb9478 2 місяці тому +11

      Ranger Raptor, if you like plastic oil and transmission pans & plastic drain plugs. 😂

    • @FrankyRedEyes
      @FrankyRedEyes 2 місяці тому +8

      I work in the plastics industry. Some plastics are harder and more durable than thinly stamped metal plus plastic doesn't rust. We, as midnight shift machine operators, were throwing our test run parts (NOT Ford parts) as hard as we could against brick walls with zero issues. Couldn't break chip or shatter our parts. And that's before QC got them 😂.

    • @theaveragewoodsman6002
      @theaveragewoodsman6002 2 місяці тому +8

      Ford has the most recalls of ANY brand 3 years in a row.

    • @chris-qo1nt
      @chris-qo1nt 2 місяці тому +2

      Toyota has built up a lot of brand capital that they’re cashing in with now

    • @marcg.3830
      @marcg.3830 2 місяці тому +7

      @@chrisb9478 the 2.7 doesn’t use the plastic oil pan anymore and I would be surprised if the 3.0l does. Toyota uses plastic transmission pans also. So stop acting like Ford is the only automaker that uses plastic oil and transmission pans as many other automakers do.

  • @donays8241
    @donays8241 2 місяці тому +5

    I can't WAIT to see the MPG TEST ON THIS TRUCK.

  • @jasonpaiva4793
    @jasonpaiva4793 2 місяці тому +7

    The shiny black plastics look funny, fender flares & bumper accents & hood scoop. I have a 22 TRD off-road w a plain hood, it has way better sight lines than a scooped hood. Great comparison Roman & Andre.

    • @71gmonet
      @71gmonet 2 місяці тому +2

      If they are going glossy they may as well paint match or even better paint accenting like they used to do on the previous generation (not current) Limited 4 Runners. My favorite was a Limited grey metallic with the charcoal (not black) fender flares.

  • @Kakiharaichii
    @Kakiharaichii 2 місяці тому +35

    Everything that made me love cars has disappeared in recent years. I’ll but a couple of old cars and keep them forever. It is out of control.

    • @briskhockey
      @briskhockey 2 місяці тому +1

      I got a 2018 frontier last year. It's my newest vehicle I've ever owned. Everyone seems to shit frontiers for being outdated, but having a truck that actually feels like a truck with buttons feels amazing. The highest tech it has is a display with Bluetooth built in. And I love it.

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Місяць тому

      @@briskhockeyI leased the new gen a couple years back while I was living in Montana for work. Had it for one year, i truly enjoyed it.

  • @Axsel85
    @Axsel85 2 місяці тому +10

    I figured they would be priced around that but still was surprised😅

  • @HD-on2eg
    @HD-on2eg 2 місяці тому +6

    It’s like Toyota is giving a big middle finger to all its loyal customers. The year over year price increases are just insane.

  • @bawintermage8351
    @bawintermage8351 2 місяці тому +139

    Who cares at this price point? Im sorry, but cars and trucks are way overpriced. Its time for a market correction. And the people who claim that, it doesn't matter if you have money, are either lying trolls or part of the problem by paying mortgage ($900+) payments for a depreciating hunk of pre rusted tin and turbos.

    • @janetairlines1351
      @janetairlines1351 2 місяці тому +20

      Agreed. New vehicles are not remotely worth it anymore

    • @ryansheard8092
      @ryansheard8092 2 місяці тому +13

      I want to know where a $900 mortgage is? Mine is $2000 a month and that's CHEAP!

    • @andrewsbbq
      @andrewsbbq 2 місяці тому

      @@ryansheard8092I’m $900/week

    • @bawintermage8351
      @bawintermage8351 2 місяці тому +2

      @@ryansheard8092 I wanted to strike a balance between what was obviously too high for a car payment and low mortgage payments and juxtapose that against what some fools are paying. I've heard of $1600 payments for trucks.

    • @ryansheard8092
      @ryansheard8092 2 місяці тому

      @@bawintermage8351 I don't have a truck payment, but ok. It's easier to just pay for the thing outright than it is to finance. I think your anger is directed in the wrong places.

  • @BabakPA
    @BabakPA 2 місяці тому +12

    I can’t believe how much they are charging people for these trucks! Oh and don’t forget to take your tablet when you leave😂😂

  • @arnick2
    @arnick2 2 місяці тому +7

    Elephant in the room: Made in Mexico.

    • @dvader3263
      @dvader3263 2 місяці тому +1

      The 3rd gen Tacoma was also built in Mexico.

  • @originalname9999
    @originalname9999 2 місяці тому +5

    With these prices Nissan would be stupid to not jump all over that 35k-45k segment. As of now if i was in the market for this sized truck that pro4x would looking really good. Luckily I got my TRD off road in 2020 for 34k and does everything I expect From it.

  • @YWUBHYD
    @YWUBHYD 27 днів тому

    100% got everything I wanted from this video PLEASE KEEP MAKING MORE OF THESE STYLE VIDS, they’re the best 🎉

  • @marks7311
    @marks7311 2 місяці тому

    Loved the video and enjoy the informal and impromptu vids. Keep em coming, great work

  • @crack_of_dawn
    @crack_of_dawn 2 місяці тому +12

    Wow I was considering replacing my wife's 2021 TRD Off Road with a 2025 Pro but for that price I'd rather just switch her to a Ranger Raptor.

    • @paulm6481
      @paulm6481 2 місяці тому +4

      said no one ever

    • @crack_of_dawn
      @crack_of_dawn 2 місяці тому +4

      @@paulm6481 I literally said it, and meant it.

    • @Kid_with_an_Evo
      @Kid_with_an_Evo 2 місяці тому

      I’ve seen those going for as much as $83k in Washington. Just depends on the dealer.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc 2 місяці тому

      Ford is absolute crepe compared to Toyota and you know it. Nice bluff though.

    • @crack_of_dawn
      @crack_of_dawn 2 місяці тому +1

      @@Jeff-ib7wc Not a bluff at all. I don't have an allegiance to *any* car company. I don't own a Toyota, my wife does. She loved her previous ranger that she had for ~150k miles and would absolutely happy to jump back into one.

  • @TeXasDadBod
    @TeXasDadBod 2 місяці тому +5

    I was waiting for you guys to show how much roomier the back seat on the trailhunter is 😅 !

    • @originalname9999
      @originalname9999 2 місяці тому +1

      Same as their current test rig in the Off Road Trim.

  • @zmotorpro
    @zmotorpro 2 місяці тому +1

    I like the impromptu reviews. Thanks for the review and thanks for the payload numbers!

  • @LPM84.
    @LPM84. 2 місяці тому +22

    Sorry to say this Andre, but the TRD PRO and the Trailhunter are not a close or direct ZR2 BISON competitor. Maybe a base ZR2, and Ford Raptor Competitor.
    -No factory front locker.
    - 33s not 35s factory installed.
    -less lift/ground clearance/Aproach/departure ect..ect.
    Toyota as well as other manufacturers have priced these trucks out of the relm of what most people will ever pay for a midsized truck.

    • @fernandopuga6906
      @fernandopuga6906 2 місяці тому +11

      And the ZR2 Bison still is 5k cheaper

    • @mattbrew11
      @mattbrew11 2 місяці тому

      @@fernandopuga6906and MADE IN THE USA

    • @kx8960
      @kx8960 2 місяці тому +6

      Not even directly comparable to a "regular" ZR2 (like the 2024 I just bought), as the Tacoma STILL doesn't have a front locker.

    • @LPM84.
      @LPM84. 2 місяці тому +1

      @@kx8960 I understand that. But it is the closest.

    • @rickeycooley9139
      @rickeycooley9139 2 місяці тому

      @@fernandopuga6906 what is the price, you never said?

  • @Lets-do-this-
    @Lets-do-this- 2 місяці тому +15

    Maybe I’m cheep but I do not think a Tacoma should be more than the mid 50’s come on people Great video once again, guys

    • @Mylifeislegendary836.
      @Mylifeislegendary836. 2 місяці тому +1

      You are not cheap oh no instead silly. This is a excellent mid size truck and worth its price. This is 2024 and not 1999

    • @270eman
      @270eman 2 місяці тому

      Yeah that's why I got the 23 SR5 V6 4x4 . 41k. I am never going to need all that crap on the expensive trims and I can upgrade the suspension myself how I like for a few thousand. I really prefer the basic all paint matched style on the SR5 anyway. Looks like luxury in silver. I have seen 24 SR5s going for 43k. Thats the deal. Upgrade later if you want offroad crap.

    • @iskdude9922
      @iskdude9922 2 місяці тому

      If ypu want the nice shit make more money....

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Місяць тому

      @@Mylifeislegendary836.70-73 k after mark ups with a big interest rate ? For a 4cyl mid size truck ? Just so all the posers can look cool going over the speed bumps in the Victoria secret parking lot 😂🤡

    • @Keefer24
      @Keefer24 Місяць тому

      @@iskdude9922Nice shit ? You’ll never be able to shame a real man into paying 70-73 k ( after Toyota markups) for a 4cyl mid size truck, I got my diesel cheaper than that. This is another Toyota poser truck, built for the wimps like you who don’t off road at all but want to look cool hitting the speed bumps in the complex you’re picking your wife’s boyfriend up from 😂🤡

  • @AdventureBraten01
    @AdventureBraten01 2 місяці тому

    This was probably already on the works, but I’m so glad you guys made this video (after I commented asking for it)

  • @lbjailer
    @lbjailer 2 місяці тому +9

    Nice trucks, but I like the ZR2 or Raptor better.

  • @mechmat12345
    @mechmat12345 2 місяці тому +7

    The 4Runner is usually a few thousand more than the Taco which means the 4R TRD Pro will be pushing $70k which is the same price as the GX550 Overtrail, which is just a way better vehicle as far as i can tell.

    • @Tylander_
      @Tylander_ 2 місяці тому

      Ya if you can wait 3 years to get a GX

    • @Elsuntan
      @Elsuntan 2 місяці тому

      On your suggestion went in took a look at the GX550 and you are completely right, you get a ton more and a proven Prado origin. If you are in the 67,000 range you might as well go to 69,000.

    • @sunny051488
      @sunny051488 Місяць тому

      @@Elsuntanyea but it’s like 89k after markup

  • @fscottgray9784
    @fscottgray9784 2 місяці тому +3

    Trail hunter would be my pick but the interior still looks pretty tight for anyone over 6 foot tall.

  • @joedonahue5687
    @joedonahue5687 Місяць тому +1

    My 2021 TRD Pro resale value just went up! Thanks Toyota!

  • @michaelneild5133
    @michaelneild5133 2 місяці тому +2

    I LIKE THIS STYLE OF VIDEO! YOU GUYS DID A GOOD JOB! I THINK THAT I WOULD GO WITH THE TRAIL HUNTER ALSO! VERY ENJOYABLE VIDEO

  • @omardevonlittle3817
    @omardevonlittle3817 2 місяці тому +31

    it sounds like a shop vac lmao

    • @bradj9870
      @bradj9870 2 місяці тому +5

      The last turbo I had that made that sound was about to go bad...

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 2 місяці тому

      Dummies. All turbo engines make this sound. Just depends on how much muffling is done to the airbox

  • @marshallkroening
    @marshallkroening 2 місяці тому +3

    These look sick. Also loving this style of video guys!

  • @zacharyfranklin1622
    @zacharyfranklin1622 26 днів тому

    Excellent analysis love the first dirt video look forward to see it done with the4 runner TRD pro and Trail hunter

  • @user-zv4zt5uc5b
    @user-zv4zt5uc5b 2 місяці тому +2

    Here is a theory on Toyota’s high pricing; Toyota Corporation tired of distributors and dealers making money from unnecessary and unwanted accessories, including $4,000 “market adjustments”. So they have jacked up the MSRP on the vehicles to a level where distributors and dealers have no room to add “extras” and may have to even discount to move the inventory.

  • @JordanMadera
    @JordanMadera 2 місяці тому +11

    I am pretty sure the 4Runner TRD Pro and Trailhunter will be as pricey if not more. That price makes me consider a Land Cruiser 250 series as a serious option.

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard 2 місяці тому +2

      Might as well go with a Lexus GX than a Land cruiser!

    • @mechmat12345
      @mechmat12345 2 місяці тому

      For $65k I'll definitely take a Land Cruiser. Best balance of off road, efficiency and comfort imo. I assume the 4Runner TRD Pro will be pushing $70k, and I'd definitely take the GX Overtrail at that price.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc 2 місяці тому

      Land Cruiser has like 8.5” ground clearance. The GX Overtrail has 8.7”. You get 11” on the Trailhunter model WITH a factory warranty!

    • @JPEBeard
      @JPEBeard 2 місяці тому

      @@Jeff-ib7wcDon't you get a V6 with the GX?

    • @CrumResearch
      @CrumResearch Місяць тому

      ​@@Jeff-ib7wc11" clearance is pretty good, like in our Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Cybertruck offers even more -- 16" ground clearance.

  • @damien7881
    @damien7881 2 місяці тому +3

    COULD YOU GUYS DO THAT TEST (TRAILHUNTER VS BISON)

  • @Constipatedoverlord
    @Constipatedoverlord 2 місяці тому +2

    At my dealer (socal) we got a prototype tacoma come in for trouble codes. It wasnt anything serious, grille shutter, because we assumed it was from the offroading they were doing. It was thoroughly dirty and could tell they had taken it through some decent water. Truck was plenty muddy. They seem alright. Nothing to lose your mind over.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc 2 місяці тому

      By 2028 they will have these absolutely sorted and bulletproof. Until then- Have fun early adopter Guinea pigs!

  • @TheThewulasvegas
    @TheThewulasvegas 2 місяці тому +1

    I own a 2012 TRD Tacoma. I paid $26K out the door Feb 2017. 50k miles on the odometer. Today’s prices are insane.

  • @literaticzar
    @literaticzar 2 місяці тому +9

    65k+tax+interest+insurance+mark-ups+gas increases! You can't afford it, American serfs, but Zelenzky can. LMAO!

  • @makadocious1975
    @makadocious1975 2 місяці тому +13

    Not even a front locker for 63k wtf...and front and rear locker is the best thing to have... also just think of the 15k markups that they will tack on also

  • @donleamon8653
    @donleamon8653 2 місяці тому +2

    63k just affirms my decision to repower my beloved 80 Series with an LT swap. She's already built, locked, new leather. For less than 30k I should be able to have way more power, better fuel milage and have enough left over to do a decent re-squirt of the exterior.

  • @guentherwilke2055
    @guentherwilke2055 2 місяці тому

    Nice to see the comparison between the top off-road trims. Hopefully we’ll get a comparison between the OR and TH or Pro soon.

  • @ragnarmagnusson4305
    @ragnarmagnusson4305 2 місяці тому +10

    Where’s the 1700 lbs. of payload we were promised? My Maverick Tremor has more payload (1250 lbs.). Last week, at the Ford dealer, I saw a 2024 Ranger 4x4 with 1699 lbs. of payload. I like this video format. Thanks for all the great videos and keep up the good work.

    • @kabloosh699
      @kabloosh699 2 місяці тому +3

      If payload matters get a lesser trim.

    • @jasonjac123
      @jasonjac123 2 місяці тому +4

      Exactly. Toyota kept quoting 1700 for trail hunter and it was complete BS.

    • @keithcrandall1369
      @keithcrandall1369 2 місяці тому +2

      1250 pounds of payload actually isn’t too bad for the Trail hunter….but yeah, not even close to 1700lbs

    • @jimsomerville3924
      @jimsomerville3924 2 місяці тому +6

      @@kabloosh699 the TrailHunter is supposed to be the "overlander" which needs payload to carry all the over-priced camping junk. And the lower trims are still only around 1200 lb capacity. So the promised ratings were a marketing lie.

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 2 місяці тому +2

      @@kabloosh699 That doesn't help....no trim is above 1270

  • @erp2000
    @erp2000 2 місяці тому +5

    Toyota made the price so high dealers are going to have a hard time taking on markup cause nobody going to want to pay 5k to 10k extra on this vehicle there's so many options for that price like a f150 raptor or chevy silverado zr2

  • @franzvanjulio5523
    @franzvanjulio5523 2 місяці тому +1

    I enjoy the impromptu reviews.

  • @hollahabibi1897
    @hollahabibi1897 2 місяці тому +2

    The EXTREME!!!!! Dudes from Harold and Kumar would love this truck

    • @mnyhomie
      @mnyhomie 2 місяці тому

      Wait, was that a pterodactyl?

  • @LivingRetirement
    @LivingRetirement 2 місяці тому +7

    Prices are INSANE!!! I was contemplating the TrailHunter, but must say big time "NO". I much rather get the LC250 LandCruiser in a few years once hopefully markups are gone.

    • @alromero5685
      @alromero5685 2 місяці тому +1

      You can drive to a further dealer for a no mark up Land Cruiser.

    • @LivingRetirement
      @LivingRetirement 2 місяці тому

      @@alromero5685 that is what I am doing once I am ready to buy, absolutely!!! Once I decide when and what.

    • @alromero5685
      @alromero5685 2 місяці тому

      @@LivingRetirement 😎👍 My man!

  • @Queensizemusic
    @Queensizemusic 2 місяці тому

    Great job! I love the new roofline on all of these. I’m thinking I’d like the Pro for the extra grand.

  • @KemApak
    @KemApak 2 місяці тому

    Love it, great video, thank you guys! They are almost the same price as Land Cruiser / Land Cruiser. So what is the real difference? Is it just style?

  • @bubbabiker5653
    @bubbabiker5653 2 місяці тому +3

    $65k for a midsize!! And it's made in Mexico with cheap labor. No way Jose......

  • @ExploreWyoming
    @ExploreWyoming 2 місяці тому +8

    65k is a LOT but I think a lot of people miss the point. The trail hunter has a ton of upgrades, plus the warranty. Many overlanders would install those things themselves and now it’s available from the factory

    • @higg2156
      @higg2156 2 місяці тому +4

      uh huh, now explain the 65k part again.

    • @ExploreWyoming
      @ExploreWyoming 2 місяці тому +1

      @@higg2156 I think if people bought the trd off road for 45k then added all the stuff themselves it would be over 65k

    • @Dusdaddy
      @Dusdaddy 2 місяці тому

      @@higg2156 How much for a well-equipped Ram Rebel or Ford Tremor? Now it doesn't look as bad.

    • @mechmat12345
      @mechmat12345 2 місяці тому

      ​@@ExploreWyoming,no it wouldn't. Rock rails and decent shocks aren't THAT expensive. This truck makes a lot of sense at $55k, but not $65k.

    • @Mylifeislegendary836.
      @Mylifeislegendary836. 2 місяці тому +2

      ​@@mechmat12345 this costing 65k is more than fine and because it's a excellent truck. Stop complaining. Even car and driver ranked the new Tacoma turbo and turbo Hybrid versions as number one and two. Above all it's rivals.

  • @jlaw1901
    @jlaw1901 2 місяці тому +2

    Andre, I really want to see the hybrid on the Ike. I’m curious how regen braking will effect downhill performance

  • @mramseyISU
    @mramseyISU 2 місяці тому

    I had been planning on getting a trd pro. Then I started seeing more and more pictures of how they killed the rear seat room. I’ve got kids to haul around so I want a usable back seat. I finally decided I was out and ended up getting a hybrid tundra with the trd off road package. I’m pretty sure I’m not really missing out.

  • @michaelweston9048
    @michaelweston9048 2 місяці тому +3

    This makes ranger raptor a bargain before mark ups 😂😂😂. But can’t afford it 😢😢😢

  • @StlrNtn95
    @StlrNtn95 2 місяці тому +3

    Crazy that we paid either 46k or 48k for my wife's 2020 Tacoma TRD Pro. Almost 20k 4 years later is absolutely crazy!

  • @mattbrew11
    @mattbrew11 2 місяці тому +1

    Sounds like the arb snorkel on my diesel JT. ❤

  • @hugoarreola5797
    @hugoarreola5797 2 місяці тому +1

    Keeping my 21 TRD Pro Lunar Rock for a long time😌😎

  • @retiredafce3373
    @retiredafce3373 2 місяці тому +5

    My son seen the TRD PRO on the trailer here in Oregon.

  • @markbrackenhoff1676
    @markbrackenhoff1676 2 місяці тому +5

    I make enough to afford this truck, but there is zero chance I'd buy it at that price. Would rather buy the TRD Off-Road and add 2-3" lift, 33's, better shocks, additional skid plates, and still save 12-15k. Less power? Sure, but folks who've driven the non-hybrid Tacoma say it's a very good powertrain.

    • @yesq
      @yesq 2 місяці тому +2

      You can get TRD off road hybrid soon

  • @zygmuntziokowski7877
    @zygmuntziokowski7877 2 місяці тому

    I like the trailer-header also.

  • @brandonstewart7145
    @brandonstewart7145 2 місяці тому +1

    Excellent video guys, i enjoy this format more than others and no music 😁

  • @michaelderby1655
    @michaelderby1655 2 місяці тому +11

    "Those bumpers and components can be added to other Tacomas". Cue the lower trim owners telling everybody their lesser trimmed Tacos are "just as good as a trail hunter" because they bought a bumper.

  • @chromenewt1691
    @chromenewt1691 2 місяці тому +11

    $63k for a midsized… what the actual f@&$!?

    • @sammyjammy6647
      @sammyjammy6647 2 місяці тому

      Pick up trucks used to be cheaper than Corollas but as soon as people turned them into lifestyle choices, the manufacturer started cashing in on peoples high emotion and being posers, and not actually using them as work trucks.

  • @JoshHallingse
    @JoshHallingse 2 місяці тому

    Love these. Wish they were a tad roomier in the cab.

  • @DerFledderer
    @DerFledderer 2 місяці тому

    I like this style of video

  • @josel1325
    @josel1325 2 місяці тому +4

    66 😂😂 lmaoooo

  • @felixgato718
    @felixgato718 2 місяці тому +10

    65k smh wonder what the 4 Runner will be at now. Smh

    • @jtomtl
      @jtomtl 2 місяці тому

      70k 😂

    • @temur72
      @temur72 2 місяці тому

      TRD off road would be just as good for 95% of people who buy the pro.or trailhunter

  • @cartopia6161
    @cartopia6161 2 місяці тому +1

    The isodynamic seats should be an option, that way one could get this trim at a cheaper price.

  • @aham3476
    @aham3476 2 місяці тому +1

    Like the style of video. Trail hunter looks sweet!

  • @Alex-ss4bk
    @Alex-ss4bk 2 місяці тому +3

    Keep your current tacos and 4Runners for another 10tears then get these for half the price….maybe.

    • @Jeff-ib7wc
      @Jeff-ib7wc 2 місяці тому

      I bought a 4Runner TRD OFF ROAD Premium with KDSS for $45,000 in 2020. Identical models with similar mileage are currently retailing for $40-43k.

    • @Alex-ss4bk
      @Alex-ss4bk 2 місяці тому

      @@Jeff-ib7wc nice, we got a 21 nighshade for $49k when the used car market started to go carzy, I think if we sell it now, we can command high 30s but twin turbo is something I am not sure about on these cars.

  • @Reu_ag
    @Reu_ag 2 місяці тому +4

    This TRD Pro looks the best in the class

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 2 місяці тому +1

      ZR2 AEV Bison for offroading. Toyota for reliability...

    • @mechmat12345
      @mechmat12345 2 місяці тому +2

      Lol. You're nuts. Raptor is way better for performance and price, ZR2 is best value by far. TRD Pro is better at nothing but MPG and presumptive reliability (has not been out long enough to actually say it's reliable).

  • @tbm275
    @tbm275 2 місяці тому +1

    Do the ventilated seats on the Tacoma vent to the back and base of the seat, or just the base?
    I'm interested in the TRD-Off Road with premium package for the vented seats but no point in them if they only cool the base of the seat and not the back.
    Was really disappointed by the new Ridgeline Black edition that only had the vented seat base and not the back.

  • @DuyenNguyen-ui6mo
    @DuyenNguyen-ui6mo 2 місяці тому

    What I like about Toyota and most car manufacturers for that matter is that they have a trim that fits your budget.

  • @claystil1
    @claystil1 2 місяці тому +3

    Is there going to be a delete option for that "desert air intake" cause i wanna 1) be able to roll down my window in peace, and 2) not have a goofy, pointless mod.

  • @2daih4
    @2daih4 2 місяці тому +8

    66k
    Wtf

  • @CraigG21
    @CraigG21 2 місяці тому +1

    The Trailhunter trim is for Overlanding; says right on the Toyota website.
    Prices on the TRD-Pro & Trailer are 😱
    What were the actual payload numbers on these vehicles? I know what the website says...
    The turbo noise in the raised air intake would get old really quick.
    Great info in this vid - thanks.

  • @secerator
    @secerator 2 місяці тому

    So what else is different other than the seats, snorkel, bed size, shocks, rock bar? Any difference in the tech package and off road functions?

  • @HP-ov7ol
    @HP-ov7ol 2 місяці тому +3

    For a lot less $ you can buy a full sized Titan Pro 4X. No mid sized truck should exceed $50k.

  • @ndb8610
    @ndb8610 2 місяці тому +3

    Looks good but price is stupid im out

  • @Kl3pt0_19
    @Kl3pt0_19 2 місяці тому +2

    Will the off road have the hybrid option soon? I just don’t see a justification on getting the high level trims at this point when the extra money can go into some actual good custom mods.

  • @7sunsetmaro7
    @7sunsetmaro7 2 місяці тому

    They added the bed cubby on the Trailhunter. How nice of them.....

  • @ConfirmedPatriot
    @ConfirmedPatriot 2 місяці тому +7

    About $15,000 more than my 2020 TRD PRO……😳😬👎🏻

    • @originalname9999
      @originalname9999 2 місяці тому

      Almost twice as much as my 2020 base model TRD OR, out the door at $34,500.

  • @Land_Raver
    @Land_Raver 2 місяці тому +3

    Thankfully, they didn't take it on anything serious. Wouldn't want a repeat of the diff failure.

  • @CoopaCoop
    @CoopaCoop 2 місяці тому +1

    TRD off roads and pros pricing is getting totally crazy. Give me a off road with just heated seats and a bed liner for 40k out the door and it'll be the number one selling truck on the market.
    They can keep all the other fancy controls/cameras/technology that is driving the price through the roof.

  • @qdog494
    @qdog494 2 місяці тому +2

    For 9k more I ordered a F 350 power stroke XLT FX4. Those tacos are crazy expensive….but yes they hold their value well

    • @jasonhill2180
      @jasonhill2180 2 місяці тому +2

      A mans work truck! And your turbo will sound so much better! 6.7 turbo whistle is sweet. So is the Dodge though.

    • @qdog494
      @qdog494 2 місяці тому +1

      @@jasonhill2180 absolutely. For me the XLT gives me just enough tech without going overboard

  • @mr75204
    @mr75204 2 місяці тому +6

    A TRD pro is just a lifted grocery getter. Some people might take it off road, but that’s just their driveway.

    • @janetairlines1351
      @janetairlines1351 2 місяці тому

      Not to mention you need to keep the key fob in a faraday bag because thieves are using skimmers to get the signal and steal push button vehicles in seconds now. They can do it through windows, walls etc

    • @richfarfugnuven6308
      @richfarfugnuven6308 2 місяці тому +1

      Not here in CO. People buy the Toyotas and modify and offroad them all of the time...

    • @mr75204
      @mr75204 2 місяці тому

      @@richfarfugnuven6308I used to live there. The majority never see dirt. It’s a concrete cowboy.

  • @brentbacon6148
    @brentbacon6148 2 місяці тому +1

    Is there any storage left under the backseat, when you have the Hybrid?

    • @HectorAguayo98
      @HectorAguayo98 2 місяці тому +1

      No that’s where the battery is

  • @MrJosh56040
    @MrJosh56040 2 місяці тому

    Would LOVE to see a video of blueberry vs the Off-Road Hybrid with premium package.
    Plus I'm struggling to make a purchasing decision between those two so it'd help 😅

  • @Random_Vince
    @Random_Vince 2 місяці тому

    Great video!! I saw all of it. Can yall please make this video you spoke about on 30:08

  • @reptoid7340
    @reptoid7340 2 місяці тому

    This is great news! I guess I will keep my 2nd gen for another 10 more years until the market cools off. I’m in no hurry.

  • @steffencave9363
    @steffencave9363 2 місяці тому

    Can you disable the proximity warnings, or will you get beeped at every time you approach an obstacle?