I find it extremely ironic Brad went on this quest to protect Buddy for his "second chance", but his second chance was there all along it was Dusty/Rando. For some reason he abandoned his son just like that.
Because dusty remained him of what happened to lisa the way her face was messed up by unknown person using a saw just to Find out it was his student Bernard all along and that he could prevented dusty fate from happening if he kept an eye on bernard and that guilt was too much for him or he wanted dusty to be safe from Bernard and left dusty but i know what you are thinking that means he cares more about buddy more then dusty right? well of course not brad wasn't using joy if brad used joy in that time he wouldn't leave dusty and that's for the better depending on how you see it because rando becomes a better person and perhaps the best person in game and maybe brad will make him worse like buddy, and don't forget he left his little sister to his father of course he could leave dusty as well
10:20 holy shit i just realized this is what caused him to become a joy mutant its said that physical OR mental/emotional trauma is the catalyst to becoming a joy mutant it wasnt losing his arms or the beatings he took it was Buddy.
Rando Brad and Buddy are one of the saddest broken families in any franchise. They are all just imperfect human being in a world that just wanted to see them broken
I love how everyone is a bad person in this. Brad is merciless and a narcissist who murders everyone. Terry is a liar and a coward (although he does eventually grow into a great person) Rando is the leader of murderous fiends. Buzzo manipulates and tortures Brad as well as making more mutants. Yado created joy and mutants. Buddy grows into a sociopath. Lisa manipulated Buzzo. Brad's Father molested and abused his family. His childhood friends and bullies want nothing but Buddy's body and Death. Everyone abuses drugs. and possibly the worst death. Random Dancing guy hangs himselff.
As abhorrent as Brad used throughout the story, I wholeheartedly agree with his killing of his father. Once you molest your daughter, you can't be trusted around another no matter the amount of self loathing. You still did something unforgivable
@@deletedTestimony He probably couldnt have since the damage of drug abuse seems to have given him serious amnesia so even if he tried to explain he doesn't seem to remember the details.
Brad is far from perfect, and he made many terrible mistakes while raising Buddy (like just leaving her alone for long periods of time to do drugs) and I can understand to an exent Buddy disliking him for all that, but holy shit is she ungrateful. The dude took care of you, tought you how to fight so you would be able to defend yourself, and saved you multiple times from being raped, killed or hurt in some other way. At least try reasoning with him instead of just yelling at him and running away from him.
You're in the exact same mindset that Brad was. We see the game from his perspective, Brad clearly did more than we're led to believe, likely not the best parent. Brad continued the cycle of abuse that he was made apart of, so while not entirely his fault, he still was indeed a failure.
@@JaceWind thats a good theory, but i dont remember brad doing anything bad to buddy except for screaming but like you say it IS from brads perspective so he could have abused her
@@brettthebest3978 haha, right?? teenagers are bad am I right?? That's so funny lol!! Can't be because of the abusive way he raised her and the atrocities she watched him commit right?? Naaaaaaaah, just a rebellious teenager.
Brad wasn’t the best dad but god was buddy ungrateful. In brads pursuit of protective her he did abuse her unintentionally (I’m not sure if abuse her is the right word but it was bad). We didn’t see her full childhood but we can assume that the combination of being confided to a small dirty room and negate from brad during large portions of his life (doing joy and drinking either passing out or leaving he alone so he can do it) lead her to disliking brad but for all his faults he was saving her from a life of being used as a tool for breading. He could have done it in a better way but buddy still should have appreciated that.
The way I see it, she didn't know nor understand what he was "protecting" her from - That's why she rebelled so strongly. I would say it's a struggle every parent goes through. Idk what you're childhood was like, so forgive me if I"m speaking out of line, but think about it for a moment: was there ever a time your parents wouldn't let you do something "because they know better" or "because it wasn't safe"? What were your feelings during that moment? That's likely what Buddy was feeling, and the protectiveness of Brad is comparable to how your parents likely felt during that moment. I know it probably isn't 1 to 1 (after all, Buddy and Brad have an unorthodox situations), but hopefully that helped open your eyes a bit.
Mr.Minzer think that the case. Brad never said what he was protected Buddy from. that was upsetting her. going on what he said, if your parents said they knew better and were protecting you from something but never stated why they were doing it, very annoying
You and squatch have a point, while Brad dose deserve to not be treated like shit, Buddy’s reason for resisting Brad was justified but he tried to protect her without giving the reason because she’s just a kid and wouldn’t understand it...besides what would he tell her “I’m protecting you so you don’t get fucked over and over to bring back humanity when your just child and shouldn’t be fucked”...so yeah, he kinda had a reason to not tell the reason
Marty. Marty, Marty, Marty. He absolutelly deserved what he got regardless of what your opinion on him is, but the fact that he was genuinely sorry and wanted to change despite the fact that he will never come close to redeeming himself of the awful things he did, really do drive home many of the themes of the game. That scene with him is easily one of my favorite moments in the game. Gonna wait till you cover Joyful to talk about Buddy. That girls a whole nother can of worms. The series got me into playing Lisa again, this time trying out Pain mode, gotta say, way easier than I expected. What were you guys favorite party members when you played?
Yeah, the storytelling is really masterful in the way it makes you sympathize with Marty, one of the worst people in the history of Olathe. Like you said, the dude is totally a dirtbag, yet I still felt some hesitance when it came to killing him. It's a crazy good scene. Well the Joyful is next, so you won't have to wait too long hopefully! Nice, man! Happy to hear it! Pain Mode really isn't that bad, it's just the Joy Mutants that can get you, but if you prep for them, they're not too bad. Lately, I've been using the OP Team of Birdie, Percy, and RT/Percy. What about you, man?
@@SquatchGamingChannel Been rolling with the squad of Olan, Nern and Birdie. Olan is my homie, Nern has great synergy with TP characters and Birdie rounds up the team.
That's all so true. Olan has some great abilities with the poisoning and rapid fire arrows, and like you said, Nern just has great synergy with his archtype. I used Percy when I used them, so it was just stacks of residual damage. Lol.
I think that's supposed to be a thought you have. That's what I was implying when he says "Sweetheart". The game is full of grey areas like that, that's what I love about it!
Before you take control of Brad, he pops a joy. Buddy is insenuated to have taken joy before you control her. Making the player is the effect of joy. The moment you take control of them is the moment the joy starts taking hold. Due to gamers tendencies to act out on desires while in game from time to time.
For everyone, I think we need to remember that Brad is a victim of severe abuse and the cycle of abuse. He’s a bad father, but not by choice. He was trying to do his best, but that doesn’t mean he was good. If you look a little closer, he’s a mirror of Marty, not sexually abusing his daughter, but isolating her and verbally abusing her, even if it wasn’t intentional. What’s sad is that Brad is projecting Lisa onto his daughter, which removes Buddy’s identity and agency. It’s not what Buddy wants, it’s what LISA needed that matters. Buddy was isolated and ignorant. That doesn’t excuse her actions, but what she learned from Brad damages her. She was taught to kill to defend herself, but also told to never leave or talk to anyone. She was told to not call him “Dad” and that she should not talk about certain things or with her uncles if it upsets Brad. She’s a lost girl, scared of the world and scared of upsetting her not-dad. She’s a victim of abuse, though unwilling abuse, it was still done. She’s been repressed her whole life, in a love-hate relationship with her not-dad, and the atrocities she commits in LISA: the Joyful is the result of Brad’s parenting. This is all she knows, and while she does learn that there are better options, she saw those better options be taken away from her by Brad. So, she gives up, following Brad’s philosophy of kill or be killed.
Gotta say, I liked everything except how they handled Buddys motivation. I get the shes being rebellious and probably she is a bit of a psychopath, but blaming Brad and saying he hurt her the most, I never understood that. Every time she ran away from Brad something worst happened to her, being kidnapped constantly, her nipple being sliced off, her face being scarred. Saying that Marty was a better father in a few days than you ever were and that he saved her life. Brad literally saved Buddys life when she was found as a baby and raised her. He wasn't numb to the idea of having her go outside, he made a mask to protect her. He didn't devoid her from social interactions. I just feel they they could of ramped up Buddys suffering with Brad so we could relate to her motivation. Show us what she experienced in the outside world recently was nothing compared to how it was living with Brad. Maybe even reveal something sinister thing about Brad in the end that was kept from the player that will justify Buddys motivations from running away. It couldn't be the drugs, since half the population is hopped up on Joy and the other half are offering it. The only thing I came up with, is that Buddy is either insane or just really really dumb, even for teenage standards on the path of rebellion, she has no common sense at all. Her body mutilated, constantly seeing death, violence and extreme debauchery in a matter of days vs the person who fed, sheltered and protected you your whole life, oh, but he left me alone a few times while he got hopped up on drugs and alcohol, No that's the bad guy! It just didn't click.
I wholeheartedly agree. As someone who recently left the "rebellious" stage, I still remember my motivations and reasoning behind things. I was wrong but I never kept going back to things I knew hurt me. I don't understand Buddy's character. I started to think she's a narcissist who loves the praise of being the only female.
Well, when you find her the first time she tells you that she has been told about everything, so she probably feels that she must do it combined with sticky "training her", then she is saved by marty and rando and all his men growin a bond with them (marty and rando) only to brad to come and kill them out of nowhere (from her perspective), and he also make her kill someone in a way of "teaching"
Did anyone else realize that Marty and Brad slowly switched roles? Marty starts out temperamental and quick to anger and violence, but later he becomes docile, but ready to defend those he cares about even at his expense. Brad, on the other hand, starts out defending the helpless and caring for buddy, but then becomes abusive and obsessive, trapping buddy, just like Marty trapped Lisa. even in the end, he attempts to kill Rando, basically killing innocence itself leaving buddy all alone in the wasteland.
Francisco Magno brad killing marty wasn’t out of protectiveness over buddy. If it were, he would’ve been patient and attacked Marty when buddy was out of sight, nor hurt her without second though when she tried to get in between the two of them. Him killing his dad was purely for his own catharsis
@@eccentric_creampuff4983 no, brad killed Marty because that’s what happens when you’ve been taking joy for years, it makes you act on your deepest desires, brad had been suffering from Marty this whole time to the point that when he finally met him again, he couldn’t be reasoned with, the joy took control and not even buddy could get through to brad
The song that plays before the first round is titled "goodbye baby." and is so remarkably beautiful. Deep down brad knows he's in the wrong. If he gives buddy to dusty she will be looked after, fed, educated and loved. (All the things brad once did for the orphan dusty "rando") but the joy that buzzo forced him to consume is obligating him to fulfill his deepest desires. Brad knows he must succeed and by succeeding in this fight he his effectively destroying buddys best chance as survival. "Goodbye baby" is symbolic for both the close demise of a man who has failed, and the love that he truly has for buddy. I think the moment when the third wave saids "just give him the girl." is heartbreaking. Because their effectively condemning humanity because how terrified they are of a unrelenting force. And it's story telling like that brings sorrow into my heart, but also fills me with hope. Edited for clarity and grammatical errors.
Wonderfully put, Knight! I can tell this game is important to you, and you've thought long and hard about it! Thanks for sharing that! I don't think I would have noticed it on my own. And thanks for watching! I hope you enjoyed! :)
@@SquatchGamingChannel of course I love the series! Yeah im trying to become a writer and games like lisa are so good. Not only from a story telling perspective but also from a mechanical way as well. Yeah the game will always hold a special place im my heart and im glad to see others (such as yourself also enjoy it as well.)
Another nice thing to point out, is that "Goodbye Baby" and "Goodbye" are 10 tracks over "Bradley Baby" and "Bradley" Gives a nice sense of repetition to everything.
Fed, educated, loved.....and raped and used as a brood mare. It's not like Brad is wrong that many men would rape her on sight and that the ones that don't, want to use her for breeding.
they say that you need a physical or mental trauma to start to transform into a mutant,no matter what dosage of joy you took on your life before i honestly dont think theres a man stronger than brad on this world,physically and mentally,for him to not have had a mental trauma after all of the stuff that happens through the game
I guess that kind of explains why Buzzo was still obsessed with Brad and seems to stop caring as soon as he mutates. Buzzo knew despite everything Brad hadnt hit rock bottom.
Oh hello there! My name is Nern. I'm considered the greatest historian of our time... I've gathered a wealth of knowledge about Olathe and what happened here. Many tales... Would you like to hear? Hmm... I wish you were more enthusiastic... Oh well, I'll tell you anyway. Let's see.... Oh right! It all started with what I like to call, THE FLASH. I was sitting with my wife, god rest her soul, sipping on sweet lemon tea. I believe it was homemade by my sweet wife, God rest her soul. Or wait... Maybe she bought it from the store in a bottle. You know, like a plastic bottle? Well hold on now, that would be ridiculous to buy a bottle of sweet lemon tea, then transfer the contents into a glass. Why not just drink it from the bottle? I guess maybe so she could put ice in the glass? But then again, making tea homemade would be just as time consuming, if not more! That sneaky bitch... Anyway, I'll save that story for later! So, I'm sitting on my porch drinking sweet lemon tea. From a glass of course, ho ho! When suddenly... A great strangeness fills my body... Something was wrong... I've lived many years, and I've never felt something like this before. Do you know what it was? Yup! It was my rocking chair! That wooden son of a gun stopped rocking! So I looked down and realized a little rock had gotten caught beneath my chair! A rock under my rocking chair! What a day! I decided it was time for bed, I had had a little bit too much excitement for one day! Hoho! I slid into my jammies, brushed my teeth, and said my prayers. As I was climbing into bed I noticed my wife, God rest her soul, brushing her hair in the bathroom. As I peered across the hall my body swelled up with emotion... "Why can't I be married to an attractive woman?" "Is it me?" "My bank account?" I'm a tall guy, I workout forty minutes a week... Is that not enough? Now my neighbor at the time, Tom Forknight, was very short. His wife, Karen Forknight-Plateburger... Yeah, one of THOSE women. Well, she was more attractive than my wife. I'd say she was a soft six, whereas my wife was a hard four. What's the deal? I thought women liked tall men? Why was Karen with him? Anyway my horse of a wife, God rest her soul, crawled into bed next to me. She decided to leave the bedside light on so she could read her book. It was one of her romance novels again... Give me a break... As if I don't already feel inadequate enough... Not only do I have to compete with Tom, now I have to deal with these fictional hunks! Ay yai yai! At this point I had already suppressed the urges of intimacy, I rolled over and tried to sleep. Her bedside light was only of minor annoyance. I was able to drift off... Then I woke up to a big flash of light. That's about it. I can tell by the way you're walking away that you don't want to leave... If you really want to hear another story I'll tell you. Once upon a hot summer night. Sometime in July... Was it July? My local grocery store sells really good eggs in July. I don't know why. Do chickens operate better in heat? Fireworks maybe? I don't know. I don't want to get off topic. Point is, the eggs that Summer were marvelous! Anyway, my wife and I, God rest her soul, went to a BBQ that night. It was held at Dale Spooner's house. Well, his backyard... Conny Spooner doesn't want people in her home, I think she's just an uptight bitch. So at this BBQ I see none other than... That's right, Tom Forknight... Now earlier in the day wife, God rest her soul, had made potato salad for the BBQ. Personally I hate potato salad, I'm a mashed kind of fellow. Hoho! So I sat in the TV room avoiding her till the BBQ. Once we were at the party, I made sure to distance myself from my dumb potato bitch wife. God rest her soul, I just didn't want anyone to think I would associate with someone that would bring a potato salad! Anyway, Tom and his above mediocre wife were already there. And get this, they brought a fruit salad! With whipped cream! The nerve of those Forknights! Needless to say I gave my wife, God rest her soul, a couple choice words About whipped cream! Versus potato salad! God dammit! Son of a bitch! A real tongue lashing! Geez, you're kind of smothering me. I'll talk to you later.
Well hello again! Funny seeing you here! What, are ya following me or something? Hoho! Anyway... I often wonder what all happened here. What was that big flash? Why are we here? Even our night and day cycle is odd... Sometimes days last ages, and nights come rarely. And these clouds... So strange... What's happened to our earth? Oh well. Enough of that boring stuff. I once had a real kooky day at the doctor's office! I was in the waiting room reading a teen magazine. Normally I don't indulge in adolescent publications, but I couldn't resist! I had recently heard the new artist on the radio, Ulysess Utensils! She's some young woman, maybe a boy, I don't know. Either way that child can really grasp my attention! So I'm reading this magazine because I saw Ulysess on the cover. I still wasn't able to identify if it was a man or woman. But as I'm reading I notice something on the ceiling... I look up to see that there is some water damage. You'd think a doctor would make enough money to maintain his office... I guess he cares about his cool jetskis more than his patient's comfort... And his assumedly big house and hard-bodied wife... I wish my wife was like that... Big ol'... Melons... Just then! A droplet of water falls from the ceiling! My eyes trail it all the way down to the ground! I stared at the floor for some time, watching the carpet absorb the water. Suddenly my attention is caught by a small child. The child was glaring directly at me. I saw the devil looking right back at me beneath his eyes! I got nervous and quickly stared directly at my feet as not to aggravate the child. And that's when i noticed something... I was wearing two different kinds of socks! Golly, I'm all revved up after these thrilling exchanges! To be fair you're a bit of a bore, but beggars can't be choosers! I think I'll stick around, I've got many a tale to tell!
He also killed everyone who was protecting her tormenting her, traumatising here, and leaving her with no one, specially marty, who clearly only wanted to help her
@@skinnybuggo I think Marty probably feels remorse for how he treated his children and like Brad he wants to try again as a father which is why he treats Buddy so well
People in the comments blaming buddy forgetting that she's still a naive child. She's probably at that rebel phase who can only perceive the picture but not behind it. I mean brad resorted to murdering anyone who gets in his way and witnessing that as a child would most likely make them feel strongly negative
I like how the confrontation with Marty at least somewhat solidifies the idea that Brad cares more about redeeming himself and getting revenge on his father than he does buddy
You know... I've never played this game, but the plot REALLY reminds me of The Last of Us. Except for some reason, I feel like it does quite a few things better than that game.
I drew that parallel as well! It differs in some regards, but ultimately, it has a Father that would rather have the world end than give up his daughter.
After watching all your Hotline Miami vids (multiple times) and now all 3 parts of Lisa the Painful, I hope you continue to do videos like these. Forever.
Hey, thanks a lot, Mandez! I appreciate that! :) That's the goal! It's going to take a lot of hard work, and a lot more luck to be able to do it, but I'm going to keep on trucking!
@@SquatchGamingChannel I did, although I didn't enjoy it very much. I really dislike Buddy as a character. At the same time though, I'm happy I played it. Things I learned in that game just made me enjoy Lisa: The Painful even more.
I feel ya! I didn't really like the difficulty of the game personally. The power of all of the mutants/bosses makes it pretty inaccessible in my opinion. It wouldn't be so bad if there was more of a party, but Buddy is alone the entire time. I get that it's supposed to hammer home the point that she's all alone now, but still...!
It was...kinda like Brad wouldn’t exactly take the time to explain to Buddy and when he could he couldn’t properly due to the internal fear he had bottled up. There have also been times where Buddy would happily allow him in. Brad and Buddy are both terribly flawed people and are both really victims in the sorta world LISA is based in. That doesn’t excuse their actions now or in other titles of course. Brad had (most likely unintentionally) emotionally abused Buddy. Although never to the extent of Marty (especially since there’s no real hint of anything physical) it still affected her. Brad would constantly be in and out of a drugged/drunken state. Brad would deny her interaction with her uncles. Brad would explode at the mere mention of Dusty or the word ‘Dad’. He would never explain things to her, or give context. Brad would constantly suffocate her in that house. (Yes they go out I’m aware) He had even made her kill a man, even multiple. She was a child who was raised in a world full or murder and violence. What Brad had influenced onto Buddy although with good intention wasn’t the best way. Then seeing that same man slaughter entire armies, your uncles, crawling to you covered in blood and scars asking you to come back with him after all that. That’s absolutely scarring and traumatizing in a way especially for a young child. What you explained in a way is how Brad saw it. Of course. I doubt you’d act differently if you had been where Buddy was. You could never have expected Buddy to just allow him in and accept it so easily. I’m not saying Buddy is innocent especially in the sequel but Brad is the focus of the first game. Absolutely nobody was gonna get a happy ending. Of course I get Brad and he was flawed, I like his character. I don’t like what he does, I felt more pity when he died rather than sadness as I could never really feel sad over a character like Brad’s. The same goes for Buddy. I pity their characters and the darkness is what makes this game so amazing Did you really expect her to come out of this game undamaged?? (It’s just a game I’m aware but really.)
Thank you very much! Happy to hear you enjoyed it so much! It'll take some time to get Joyful done, but it's definitely on the list. I think it might be broken up into two parts, but I'm not sure yet. We'll see!
@@SquatchGamingChannel I saw that a while ago though any information on that project is a few years old. Also sadly his twitter feed has gone cold for a fair while.
Yeah, the last thing I saw him say was like "I'm going dark to work on Ninja Tears which will come out in 2030" or something to that effect. I know making games is stressful. Maybe it got to him...
@@SquatchGamingChannel I can sadly believe that. Still he made an amazing game series and no matter what, if anything, happens next he should be proud.
I love this game because you can see it in so many ways, and in so many ways it tells a very dark, horrible, and wretched story that's good for nobody. Nobody in this wasteland will get a good ending, because nobody can ever get what they want. It is a very painful game for everyone involved, story wise.
… but Brad was *right* tho. Keeping your daughter in a bunker and not allowing her to leave because men would rape her on sight would have been crazy in ANY setting but this one. He was 100% right, and it really feels like the only reason the plot goes this way is because Buddy is a fucking moron. Why doesn’t she blame Rick or Sticky? If they’d never taken her, NONE of this would have happened. But at no point does she reflect on this. She gets captured and injured, and then when Brad saves her: she runs off gets captured and injured *again* and *again.* It seems like you’re supposed to feel like the bad guy, and “oh this is all from Brad’s fucked up perspective so this isn’t REALLY what’s happening” but… no. Tardy knew she was in the truck, and was *right.* Rando commented on her injuries. Those things are real, and they are all direct results of her running off when she can’t take care of herself! I’d be really interested in counting the number of horrible endings Buddy could have gotten if Brad gave her what she wanted and didn’t save her.
The long journey's finally over, and damn was this final part a lot heavier than the previous ones. Good stuff my man, take a breather now. It's clear how much hard work went into this.
JlLovePie, okay. Which one? Marty and Brad? Marty and Lisa? Yado (spoilers) and Buddy? Brad and Rando? Brad and Buddy? There’s a lot of failed/toxic parent-child relationships.
Thanks I wanted to know the full history of this game without having to play it. you do an excellent job summarizing. Thank you. I wish someone would summarize it like that with old games like Chrono Triger or Zelda Ocarina of Time etc.
Meh, what to add that hasn't be said again and again? Brad was deeply flawed, but he was genuinely trying his best. Intentions doesn't justify bad results, but should at least offer some comprehension and empathy. He was trying. Which is why i, and a lot of other people, dislike Buddy. From a bird's eye, she does appear unreasonable and ungrateful. For all the bad things Brad did in raising her, he was 1) trying his best and 2) still being vastly better than basically all the alternatives she had in such a effed up world, something that 3) she should have noticed very early in her time away from him. His behaviour might justify Buddy saying that she wants to leave, to explore the world, even if it is dangerous, to not be with Brad anymore... but not BS line like "you have done nothing but hurt me" 10 seconds after he stopped the guy grating her face. That was just plain dumb. Like, really dumb. Like, so dumb it ruins a lot of other good things in the story. I am not saying to insert a scene where she hugs him, in pain and tears, but at least a moment of doubt where she does wonder if she was safer with him? Even if just for a while? .....it was just dumb. Marty is an ahole. Oh, you changed? Yeah, well, too late and too bad. How do you move on from such terrible actions? And if you really changed, if you are remorseful, than accept that your victims might still want and extract justice (revenge) out of you. Buzzo is a ridicolous psychopath. Just take away his damn plot armor, come on. Overall, i am not in awe of this story as everyone seems to be. I deeply dislike emotional manipulation with cheap tactics. This story would have been better with a more flashed out, reasonable Buddy and less excessively evil villains like Buzzo. Beside, the graphic and gameplay were really bad.
I’ve played this game numerous times over and over again and this ending sill brings me to tears. And don’t you even get me started on the Joyful *+UglySobbing*
Glad I found your channel, great summaries/overviews. I'd just like to say, I have a daughter, and it wouldn't take any drugs to motivate me to crawl through a post-apocalyptic wasteland to get her back.
"Commandingly, Brad screams: STAH" Okay I appreciate the summary, and I know that's an emotional moment, but that one word has me f*cking dying over here
Goodness gracious... This is just awful... The only good ending I see is having a game over. At the start I was thinking that Brad was on the right, she was too young and foolish and the apocaliptic world would chew any young girl that can't fight back. But learning he taught her how to fight back and seeing how she indeed demonstrated skill in fleeing from danger and surviving on her own... Brad's the bad guy... He sort of destroyed everything, Buddy actually had allies, allies that indeed could have had bad intentions, but personally I think that "the greater good" was a hyper good argument, even if Brad gave up on Joy, it was too late, it was too late.
I mean it was already bad but I’m sure seeing a man bigger than you slaughter your uncles and a whole group in front of you. Then murdering a warlord in front of you, approaching you covered in blood and scars - may be scary for someone her age. And beforehand it was implied that Brad’s (probably unintentionally) emotionally abused her especially when he doesn’t give context to many of the situations. Making her kill a man, or even multiple. Not to mention she’s being absolutely suffocated by Brad, either being constantly watched over or intimidated by his drugged/drunken state. I don’t think it would make sense for Buddy to NOT run away. Scared and confused and that’s what causes people to rebel. I wouldn’t feel like she was real if she clung and made up with Brad. I dunno - I guess many just don’t like it when things get harder for the characters. There’s no way Buddy couldn’t have become how she is in Joyful. I see it no real other way. But that’s just me
10:11 Goddamn it… I mean really? I know Brad was being an awful parent to her, but come on, the world she is living in is infested with psychotic men that are desperate for sexual urges.
I’ve noticed an odd dichotomy between people who’ve played the series versus people who’ve only watched UA-cam videos. Most people who’ve played the series view Brad as a horribly flawed, but ultimately human and sympathetic character. Versus people who’ve only experienced the game through UA-cam form usually view him as an extremely evil and abusive monster, akin to his father. I’m sure some people could make an argument for both viewpoints, just found it a little interesting
Seeing popular comments of calling Buddy ungrateful is ridiculous. We can acknowledge that Brad was coming from a place of well intention that Buddy isn’t acknowledging AND that he was suffocating and cruel to Buddy in order to make up for his own personal regret that had nothing to do with her.
All this people saying Buddy was ungrateful... You need to grow I was like you, 15 thinking she was a bitch. But she wasnt, she was acting as normal as you can get
I came here right after binging the videos on Hotline Miami... Needless to say, I felt really really really sad after watching this video and letting all the info sink in.
It's 03:43 in the morning and I just finished this. Fuck Also, a big, big thank you. Amazing content, as in, i've never played the game, nor I intend to, and I just wanted this: a lore summary. And you filled in everything I needed, and for the first time in years I watched 4 videos longer than 10m, 20m actually. Thank you. These games, I didn't cry in the end, which is what I do normally, I just stood there, looking at that scarred bald man, with the most strange feeling i've probably felt in years lmao Ah this game series, fucked up, but somehow gorgeous.
So like, call me out if I'm wrong, but the assertion that Buddy is just a child, and not ready, is right. She is a child. She's not ready to repopulate the world. Hell, she was raped! I can't imagine Sticky did anything other than rape her with the way she describes it! Am I supposed to agree with her and think Brad needs to back off? Even some of his companions wanted to rape her! Seriously what the fuck am I supposed to think about this other than a father trying desperately to protect his (ungrateful af) daughter from what he couldn't save his sister from the only ways he can. He tried to make it safe for her to go out. He made her a mask and walked her outside. He tried. And Buddy took it for granted
I just try my best, man. Happy to hear you like it so much! :) The Joyful is getting done now, but I won't make any promises on the Pointless. I know it's canon, but I wanted to focus mainly on the main series. We'll see where we are when I'm finished with the main series. And, dude, I feel you on the killing Terry thing. It was so sad... :(
@@SquatchGamingChannel Whatever you do you definitely got a fan. Im trying to get back into producing some media of my own as soon as i get a new rig. This channel is a great source for ground up inspiration.
Thanks, man! Oh, you're trying to make videos too? You don't need that fancy of a rig to do it, man! All of my editing is done on a Macbook Pro from 2012!
@@SquatchGamingChannel Well I used to rap back in the day and I make instrumentals like everyday when im not gaming or when i get off work. I also write scripts for some series im working on. My schedule switched up and im starting to have more time to work on these things. All i need is a rig and a couple programs and ill be good to go
in the end the answer is only one "Word of love" srsly if they tell each other from the start this kind of ending will not come, most of people think Act is better that word, but just Simply said "i love you" is harder than what u can imagine, like word for ensure and act are for self satisfying. just take it as example : >telling your mom or dad that you love them are harder than giving them many present.
Wasn’t it odd that when you were fighting the rando army your attacks changed? Not only that but you got to scream. See I think Brad turned just as he got to that part because how else could he take all of those guys on?
Now that the main story is complete, there goes the little details, it was rather complete. I didnt even realize that the joy had a obcessive effect hahaah
Well that was cool. Can't wait for Lisa the Joyful. Also, have you ever played Lone Survivor: Director's Cut ? It's a 2D Psychological horror game with an amazing story and ambience. I think you'd like it, and it'd make really interesting videos
Thanks a lot! It'll be a bit before Joyful, but that's definitely next! :) No, I haven't. I'll look into it though! I'm always down to play new games (although I don't usually play horror games cause I'm a scaredy cat! Lol).
I find it extremely ironic Brad went on this quest to protect Buddy for his "second chance", but his second chance was there all along it was Dusty/Rando. For some reason he abandoned his son just like that.
are we sure thats his son?
@@ANIMAL.LOVERS.DONT.EAT.ANIMALS it was his adopted son, like bud light- err I mean buddy
Because dusty remained him of what happened to lisa the way her face was messed up by unknown person using a saw just to Find out it was his student Bernard all along and that he could prevented dusty fate from happening if he kept an eye on bernard
and that guilt was too much for him
or he wanted dusty to be safe from Bernard and left dusty
but i know what you are thinking that means he cares more about buddy more then dusty right? well of course not brad wasn't using joy if brad used joy in that time he wouldn't leave dusty and that's for the better depending on how you see it because rando becomes a better person and perhaps the best person in game and maybe brad will make him worse like buddy, and don't forget he left his little sister to his father of course he could leave dusty as well
@@mikelarsson7838 You have to use more commas and periods my friend...
@@eatingmytoesrightnow3627 Oh good advice i was feeling like nern before commenting that comment .
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holy shit i just realized
this is what caused him to become a joy mutant
its said that physical OR mental/emotional trauma is the catalyst to becoming a joy mutant
it wasnt losing his arms
or the beatings he took
it was Buddy.
My god...
@@randomthings8732 My god indeed
@@joecool720 It's been 2 years...and, my dearly god indeed.
its been 9 days and thy heavens that is crazy
It's been 5 months and holy guacamole.
Moral of the story don’t do Drugs
Another moral: don't molest children!
True moral: don’t do drugs or molest children
And another moral: don't abounded babies
@Blaze Enriquez
No
The real moral is not to buy drugs
Let your friends do that
Another moral: don’t be selfish or abuse your children
I’m sure no one will argue with me when I say that Rando (Dusty) deserved better godamn
Year late but fuckin agreed man
@@deleteduser1187 better late than never???
@@Sleepy_on_the_moon true
Rando Brad and Buddy are one of the saddest broken families in any franchise. They are all just imperfect human being in a world that just wanted to see them broken
I love how everyone is a bad person in this.
Brad is merciless and a narcissist who murders everyone.
Terry is a liar and a coward (although he does eventually grow into a great person)
Rando is the leader of murderous fiends.
Buzzo manipulates and tortures Brad as well as making more mutants.
Yado created joy and mutants.
Buddy grows into a sociopath.
Lisa manipulated Buzzo.
Brad's Father molested and abused his family.
His childhood friends and bullies want nothing but Buddy's body and Death.
Everyone abuses drugs.
and possibly the worst death.
Random Dancing guy hangs himselff.
Greenest Sweater Cheeks did nothing wrong.
Greenest Sweater # RANDO DID NOTHING WRONG
Rando is innocent he's the kid in the dojo and Brad's son
The Salvation Rangers are pretty wholesome people
he aint no random guy that's widdly2diddly the games composer
As abhorrent as Brad used throughout the story, I wholeheartedly agree with his killing of his father. Once you molest your daughter, you can't be trusted around another no matter the amount of self loathing. You still did something unforgivable
Preach.
Too bad he never told Buddy about Marty. Would have made her understand why he murdered the kind old man who was taking care of her
@@deletedTestimony He probably couldnt have since the damage of drug abuse seems to have given him serious amnesia so even if he tried to explain he doesn't seem to remember the details.
Marty got what he deserved. And I’m sure that everyone who played LISA: The First were finally satisfied with Marty’s death. Damn him to oblivion.
Brad is far from perfect, and he made many terrible mistakes while raising Buddy (like just leaving her alone for long periods of time to do drugs) and I can understand to an exent Buddy disliking him for all that, but holy shit is she ungrateful. The dude took care of you, tought you how to fight so you would be able to defend yourself, and saved you multiple times from being raped, killed or hurt in some other way. At least try reasoning with him instead of just yelling at him and running away from him.
One simple word...
Teenager
Fiction Addict Brad did make a child murder somebody, that’s pretty scarring
You're in the exact same mindset that Brad was. We see the game from his perspective, Brad clearly did more than we're led to believe, likely not the best parent. Brad continued the cycle of abuse that he was made apart of, so while not entirely his fault, he still was indeed a failure.
@@JaceWind thats a good theory, but i dont remember brad doing anything bad to buddy except for screaming but like you say it IS from brads perspective so he could have abused her
@@brettthebest3978 haha, right?? teenagers are bad am I right?? That's so funny lol!! Can't be because of the abusive way he raised her and the atrocities she watched him commit right?? Naaaaaaaah, just a rebellious teenager.
Brad wasn’t the best dad but god was buddy ungrateful. In brads pursuit of protective her he did abuse her unintentionally (I’m not sure if abuse her is the right word but it was bad). We didn’t see her full childhood but we can assume that the combination of being confided to a small dirty room and negate from brad during large portions of his life (doing joy and drinking either passing out or leaving he alone so he can do it) lead her to disliking brad but for all his faults he was saving her from a life of being used as a tool for breading. He could have done it in a better way but buddy still should have appreciated that.
The way I see it, she didn't know nor understand what he was "protecting" her from - That's why she rebelled so strongly. I would say it's a struggle every parent goes through.
Idk what you're childhood was like, so forgive me if I"m speaking out of line, but think about it for a moment: was there ever a time your parents wouldn't let you do something "because they know better" or "because it wasn't safe"? What were your feelings during that moment? That's likely what Buddy was feeling, and the protectiveness of Brad is comparable to how your parents likely felt during that moment.
I know it probably isn't 1 to 1 (after all, Buddy and Brad have an unorthodox situations), but hopefully that helped open your eyes a bit.
Squatch Gaming Official
I just think she’s retarded.
I mean if he saved me from getting molested from a freaking literal monster.
Mr.Minzer think that the case. Brad never said what he was protected Buddy from. that was upsetting her. going on what he said, if your parents said they knew better and were protecting you from something but never stated why they were doing it, very annoying
You and squatch have a point, while Brad dose deserve to not be treated like shit, Buddy’s reason for resisting Brad was justified but he tried to protect her without giving the reason because she’s just a kid and wouldn’t understand it...besides what would he tell her “I’m protecting you so you don’t get fucked over and over to bring back humanity when your just child and shouldn’t be fucked”...so yeah, he kinda had a reason to not tell the reason
I wanted to slap this pixelated child so badly. You have no idea.
Marty.
Marty, Marty, Marty. He absolutelly deserved what he got regardless of what your opinion on him is, but the fact that he was genuinely sorry and wanted to change despite the fact that he will never come close to redeeming himself of the awful things he did, really do drive home many of the themes of the game. That scene with him is easily one of my favorite moments in the game.
Gonna wait till you cover Joyful to talk about Buddy. That girls a whole nother can of worms.
The series got me into playing Lisa again, this time trying out Pain mode, gotta say, way easier than I expected. What were you guys favorite party members when you played?
Yeah, the storytelling is really masterful in the way it makes you sympathize with Marty, one of the worst people in the history of Olathe. Like you said, the dude is totally a dirtbag, yet I still felt some hesitance when it came to killing him. It's a crazy good scene.
Well the Joyful is next, so you won't have to wait too long hopefully!
Nice, man! Happy to hear it! Pain Mode really isn't that bad, it's just the Joy Mutants that can get you, but if you prep for them, they're not too bad.
Lately, I've been using the OP Team of Birdie, Percy, and RT/Percy. What about you, man?
@@SquatchGamingChannel Been rolling with the squad of Olan, Nern and Birdie.
Olan is my homie, Nern has great synergy with TP characters and Birdie rounds up the team.
Wait... I just a HORRIBLE thought.
What if he was softening up Buddy?
That's all so true. Olan has some great abilities with the poisoning and rapid fire arrows, and like you said, Nern just has great synergy with his archtype. I used Percy when I used them, so it was just stacks of residual damage. Lol.
I think that's supposed to be a thought you have. That's what I was implying when he says "Sweetheart". The game is full of grey areas like that, that's what I love about it!
Motorcycle VS a deer....
**WHO'S GONNA WIN?!**
The results are SHOCKING!!! Lol.
The real question is how do you drive a motorcycle without arms?
FUse them deercycle its the only way
Depends. Is the dear coced out of his mind?
*Dolphin*
Before you take control of Brad, he pops a joy. Buddy is insenuated to have taken joy before you control her. Making the player is the effect of joy. The moment you take control of them is the moment the joy starts taking hold.
Due to gamers tendencies to act out on desires while in game from time to time.
Good post
For everyone, I think we need to remember that Brad is a victim of severe abuse and the cycle of abuse. He’s a bad father, but not by choice. He was trying to do his best, but that doesn’t mean he was good. If you look a little closer, he’s a mirror of Marty, not sexually abusing his daughter, but isolating her and verbally abusing her, even if it wasn’t intentional.
What’s sad is that Brad is projecting Lisa onto his daughter, which removes Buddy’s identity and agency. It’s not what Buddy wants, it’s what LISA needed that matters.
Buddy was isolated and ignorant. That doesn’t excuse her actions, but what she learned from Brad damages her. She was taught to kill to defend herself, but also told to never leave or talk to anyone. She was told to not call him “Dad” and that she should not talk about certain things or with her uncles if it upsets Brad. She’s a lost girl, scared of the world and scared of upsetting her not-dad. She’s a victim of abuse, though unwilling abuse, it was still done.
She’s been repressed her whole life, in a love-hate relationship with her not-dad, and the atrocities she commits in LISA: the Joyful is the result of Brad’s parenting. This is all she knows, and while she does learn that there are better options, she saw those better options be taken away from her by Brad.
So, she gives up, following Brad’s philosophy of kill or be killed.
I'm glad that you understand both of this characters, many people blame buddy too much
Gotta say, I liked everything except how they handled Buddys motivation. I get the shes being rebellious and probably she is a bit of a psychopath, but blaming Brad and saying he hurt her the most, I never understood that. Every time she ran away from Brad something worst happened to her, being kidnapped constantly, her nipple being sliced off, her face being scarred. Saying that Marty was a better father in a few days than you ever were and that he saved her life.
Brad literally saved Buddys life when she was found as a baby and raised her. He wasn't numb to the idea of having her go outside, he made a mask to protect her. He didn't devoid her from social interactions. I just feel they they could of ramped up Buddys suffering with Brad so we could relate to her motivation. Show us what she experienced in the outside world recently was nothing compared to how it was living with Brad. Maybe even reveal something sinister thing about Brad in the end that was kept from the player that will justify Buddys motivations from running away. It couldn't be the drugs, since half the population is hopped up on Joy and the other half are offering it.
The only thing I came up with, is that Buddy is either insane or just really really dumb, even for teenage standards on the path of rebellion, she has no common sense at all. Her body mutilated, constantly seeing death, violence and extreme debauchery in a matter of days vs the person who fed, sheltered and protected you your whole life, oh, but he left me alone a few times while he got hopped up on drugs and alcohol, No that's the bad guy! It just didn't click.
I wholeheartedly agree. As someone who recently left the "rebellious" stage, I still remember my motivations and reasoning behind things. I was wrong but I never kept going back to things I knew hurt me. I don't understand Buddy's character. I started to think she's a narcissist who loves the praise of being the only female.
I gotta agree. Her actions really don't make sense in the context of this story unless something much worse about Brad was kept from us
@@xulula7035 buddy go brrrrrrrr
Well, when you find her the first time she tells you that she has been told about everything, so she probably feels that she must do it combined with sticky "training her", then she is saved by marty and rando and all his men growin a bond with them (marty and rando) only to brad to come and kill them out of nowhere (from her perspective), and he also make her kill someone in a way of "teaching"
agreed
Did anyone else realize that Marty and Brad slowly switched roles?
Marty starts out temperamental and quick to anger and violence, but later he becomes docile, but ready to defend those he cares about even at his expense.
Brad, on the other hand, starts out defending the helpless and caring for buddy, but then becomes abusive and obsessive, trapping buddy, just like Marty trapped Lisa. even in the end, he attempts to kill Rando, basically killing innocence itself leaving buddy all alone in the wasteland.
But he never raped her
Francisco Magno brad killing marty wasn’t out of protectiveness over buddy. If it were, he would’ve been patient and attacked Marty when buddy was out of sight, nor hurt her without second though when she tried to get in between the two of them. Him killing his dad was purely for his own catharsis
@@eccentric_creampuff4983 Brad killed marty because marty raped Lisa and made her kill herself.
It's not the best action but fair enough.
Dener Witt haha Yeah. Not trying to argue the son of a bitch didn’t have it coming but still. he didn’t kill Marty for buddy, but for himself
@@eccentric_creampuff4983 no, brad killed Marty because that’s what happens when you’ve been taking joy for years, it makes you act on your deepest desires, brad had been suffering from Marty this whole time to the point that when he finally met him again, he couldn’t be reasoned with, the joy took control and not even buddy could get through to brad
The song that plays before the first round is titled "goodbye baby." and is so remarkably beautiful. Deep down brad knows he's in the wrong. If he gives buddy to dusty she will be looked after, fed, educated and loved. (All the things brad once did for the orphan dusty "rando") but the joy that buzzo forced him to consume is obligating him to fulfill his deepest desires. Brad knows he must succeed and by succeeding in this fight he his effectively destroying buddys best chance as survival. "Goodbye baby" is symbolic for both the close demise of a man who has failed, and the love that he truly has for buddy.
I think the moment when the third wave saids "just give him the girl." is heartbreaking. Because their effectively condemning humanity because how terrified they are of a unrelenting force. And it's story telling like that brings sorrow into my heart, but also fills me with hope.
Edited for clarity and grammatical errors.
Wonderfully put, Knight! I can tell this game is important to you, and you've thought long and hard about it! Thanks for sharing that! I don't think I would have noticed it on my own.
And thanks for watching! I hope you enjoyed! :)
@@SquatchGamingChannel of course I love the series! Yeah im trying to become a writer and games like lisa are so good. Not only from a story telling perspective but also from a mechanical way as well. Yeah the game will always hold a special place im my heart and im glad to see others (such as yourself also enjoy it as well.)
Squatch Gaming Official you should really do a comparison video between the music of Lisa to the music if hotline miami
Another nice thing to point out, is that "Goodbye Baby" and "Goodbye" are 10 tracks over "Bradley Baby" and "Bradley" Gives a nice sense of repetition to everything.
Fed, educated, loved.....and raped and used as a brood mare. It's not like Brad is wrong that many men would rape her on sight and that the ones that don't, want to use her for breeding.
they say that you need a physical or mental trauma to start to transform into a mutant,no matter what dosage of joy you took on your life before
i honestly dont think theres a man stronger than brad on this world,physically and mentally,for him to not have had a mental trauma after all of the stuff that happens through the game
brad had also gone through both mental and physical trauma near the end, buddy calling him a failure, and the army attacking him
Loli Raviolli It should say a lot that Brad only started mutating after Buddy denounced him and started considering himself a Failure.
I guess that kind of explains why Buzzo was still obsessed with Brad and seems to stop caring as soon as he mutates. Buzzo knew despite everything Brad hadnt hit rock bottom.
*Every time Brad loses Buddy*
Ah shit, here we go again.
the girl is in another castle, Brad
based username.
Oh hello there! My name is Nern. I'm considered the greatest historian of our time... I've gathered a wealth of knowledge about Olathe and what happened here. Many tales... Would you like to hear? Hmm... I wish you were more enthusiastic... Oh well, I'll tell you anyway. Let's see.... Oh right! It all started with what I like to call, THE FLASH. I was sitting with my wife, god rest her soul, sipping on sweet lemon tea. I believe it was homemade by my sweet wife, God rest her soul. Or wait... Maybe she bought it from the store in a bottle. You know, like a plastic bottle? Well hold on now, that would be ridiculous to buy a bottle of sweet lemon tea, then transfer the contents into a glass. Why not just drink it from the bottle? I guess maybe so she could put ice in the glass? But then again, making tea homemade would be just as time consuming, if not more! That sneaky bitch... Anyway, I'll save that story for later! So, I'm sitting on my porch drinking sweet lemon tea. From a glass of course, ho ho! When suddenly... A great strangeness fills my body... Something was wrong... I've lived many years, and I've never felt something like this before. Do you know what it was? Yup! It was my rocking chair! That wooden son of a gun stopped rocking! So I looked down and realized a little rock had gotten caught beneath my chair! A rock under my rocking chair! What a day! I decided it was time for bed, I had had a little bit too much excitement for one day! Hoho! I slid into my jammies, brushed my teeth, and said my prayers. As I was climbing into bed I noticed my wife, God rest her soul, brushing her hair in the bathroom. As I peered across the hall my body swelled up with emotion... "Why can't I be married to an attractive woman?" "Is it me?" "My bank account?" I'm a tall guy, I workout forty minutes a week... Is that not enough? Now my neighbor at the time, Tom Forknight, was very short. His wife, Karen Forknight-Plateburger... Yeah, one of THOSE women. Well, she was more attractive than my wife. I'd say she was a soft six, whereas my wife was a hard four. What's the deal? I thought women liked tall men? Why was Karen with him? Anyway my horse of a wife, God rest her soul, crawled into bed next to me. She decided to leave the bedside light on so she could read her book. It was one of her romance novels again... Give me a break... As if I don't already feel inadequate enough... Not only do I have to compete with Tom, now I have to deal with these fictional hunks! Ay yai yai! At this point I had already suppressed the urges of intimacy, I rolled over and tried to sleep. Her bedside light was only of minor annoyance. I was able to drift off... Then I woke up to a big flash of light. That's about it. I can tell by the way you're walking away that you don't want to leave... If you really want to hear another story I'll tell you. Once upon a hot summer night. Sometime in July... Was it July? My local grocery store sells really good eggs in July. I don't know why. Do chickens operate better in heat? Fireworks maybe? I don't know. I don't want to get off topic. Point is, the eggs that Summer were marvelous! Anyway, my wife and I, God rest her soul, went to a BBQ that night. It was held at Dale Spooner's house. Well, his backyard... Conny Spooner doesn't want people in her home, I think she's just an uptight bitch. So at this BBQ I see none other than... That's right, Tom Forknight... Now earlier in the day wife, God rest her soul, had made potato salad for the BBQ. Personally I hate potato salad, I'm a mashed kind of fellow. Hoho! So I sat in the TV room avoiding her till the BBQ. Once we were at the party, I made sure to distance myself from my dumb potato bitch wife. God rest her soul, I just didn't want anyone to think I would associate with someone that would bring a potato salad! Anyway, Tom and his above mediocre wife were already there. And get this, they brought a fruit salad! With whipped cream! The nerve of those Forknights! Needless to say I gave my wife, God rest her soul, a couple choice words About whipped cream! Versus potato salad! God dammit! Son of a bitch! A real tongue lashing! Geez, you're kind of smothering me. I'll talk to you later.
Well hello again! Funny seeing you here! What, are ya following me or something? Hoho! Anyway... I often wonder what all happened here. What was that big flash? Why are we here? Even our night and day cycle is odd... Sometimes days last ages, and nights come rarely. And these clouds... So strange... What's happened to our earth? Oh well. Enough of that boring stuff. I once had a real kooky day at the doctor's office! I was in the waiting room reading a teen magazine. Normally I don't indulge in adolescent publications, but I couldn't resist! I had recently heard the new artist on the radio, Ulysess Utensils! She's some young woman, maybe a boy, I don't know. Either way that child can really grasp my attention! So I'm reading this magazine because I saw Ulysess on the cover. I still wasn't able to identify if it was a man or woman. But as I'm reading I notice something on the ceiling... I look up to see that there is some water damage. You'd think a doctor would make enough money to maintain his office... I guess he cares about his cool jetskis more than his patient's comfort... And his assumedly big house and hard-bodied wife... I wish my wife was like that... Big ol'... Melons... Just then! A droplet of water falls from the ceiling! My eyes trail it all the way down to the ground! I stared at the floor for some time, watching the carpet absorb the water. Suddenly my attention is caught by a small child. The child was glaring directly at me. I saw the devil looking right back at me beneath his eyes! I got nervous and quickly stared directly at my feet as not to aggravate the child. And that's when i noticed something... I was wearing two different kinds of socks! Golly, I'm all revved up after these thrilling exchanges! To be fair you're a bit of a bore, but beggars can't be choosers! I think I'll stick around, I've got many a tale to tell!
>Nern has joined your party
>How do I commit suicide?
@@SquatchGamingChannel Hoho!
*Dunky reference*
Rot in hell Dale Spooner!
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STHAP!
Lol. I got into it, man!
Hope you enjoyed! :)
Of course I enjoyed It, your content is amazing
shit got real
This is gonna be my ringtone from now on
Gordon!
Brad should have told Buddy what Marty did to Lisa... maybe that would have been enough to make her understand why he was trying to protect her...
“Brad turns to see his party has come”
**theres 5 instead of 3**
Me: *visible confusion*
I think you can switch companions if you're not battling
Commandingly, Brad screams
*STAHP*
“You’ve done nothing but hurt me”
Bicc he just saved you from getting molested and eyes cut out from some spaghetti looking dood.
He also killed everyone who was protecting her tormenting her, traumatising here, and leaving her with no one, specially marty, who clearly only wanted to help her
@@skinnybuggo what?
His actions are also what caused her to run into the hands of the spaghetti looking dood.
@@skinnybuggo I think Marty probably feels remorse for how he treated his children and like Brad he wants to try again as a father which is why he treats Buddy so well
@@byakuyatogami2905 exactly, he didnt deserve to die,and did everything he could to protect her
"Its ok Brad, just imagine Rando in his underwear"
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"OH NO HE'S HOT"
People in the comments blaming buddy forgetting that she's still a naive child. She's probably at that rebel phase who can only perceive the picture but not behind it.
I mean brad resorted to murdering anyone who gets in his way and witnessing that as a child would most likely make them feel strongly negative
I like how the confrontation with Marty at least somewhat solidifies the idea that Brad cares more about redeeming himself and getting revenge on his father than he does buddy
You know... I've never played this game, but the plot REALLY reminds me of The Last of Us. Except for some reason, I feel like it does quite a few things better than that game.
I drew that parallel as well! It differs in some regards, but ultimately, it has a Father that would rather have the world end than give up his daughter.
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You didn’t have the permission to make me cry how dare.
After watching all your Hotline Miami vids (multiple times) and now all 3 parts of Lisa the Painful, I hope you continue to do videos like these.
Forever.
Hey, thanks a lot, Mandez! I appreciate that! :)
That's the goal! It's going to take a lot of hard work, and a lot more luck to be able to do it, but I'm going to keep on trucking!
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STAHP
Reminds me of a half life scientist
It's really fun to re-live through this game with these videos
Thanks, man! We've got Joyful to do next now! You ever play through that?
@@SquatchGamingChannel I did, although I didn't enjoy it very much. I really dislike Buddy as a character. At the same time though, I'm happy I played it. Things I learned in that game just made me enjoy Lisa: The Painful even more.
I feel ya! I didn't really like the difficulty of the game personally. The power of all of the mutants/bosses makes it pretty inaccessible in my opinion. It wouldn't be so bad if there was more of a party, but Buddy is alone the entire time. I get that it's supposed to hammer home the point that she's all alone now, but still...!
"Children begin by loving their parents; after a whole they judge them; rarely, if even, do they forgive them."
-Oscar Wilde-
"We disappoint
We disappear
We die, but we don't
You disappoint
In turn i fear
Forgive though, you won't"
It was...kinda like Brad wouldn’t exactly take the time to explain to Buddy and when he could he couldn’t properly due to the internal fear he had bottled up.
There have also been times where Buddy would happily allow him in.
Brad and Buddy are both terribly flawed people and are both really victims in the sorta world LISA is based in. That doesn’t excuse their actions now or in other titles of course.
Brad had (most likely unintentionally) emotionally abused Buddy. Although never to the extent of Marty (especially since there’s no real hint of anything physical) it still affected her.
Brad would constantly be in and out of a drugged/drunken state. Brad would deny her interaction with her uncles. Brad would explode at the mere mention of Dusty or the word ‘Dad’. He would never explain things to her, or give context. Brad would constantly suffocate her in that house. (Yes they go out I’m aware) He had even made her kill a man, even multiple. She was a child who was raised in a world full or murder and violence. What Brad had influenced onto Buddy although with good intention wasn’t the best way. Then seeing that same man slaughter entire armies, your uncles, crawling to you covered in blood and scars asking you to come back with him after all that. That’s absolutely scarring and traumatizing in a way especially for a young child.
What you explained in a way is how Brad saw it. Of course. I doubt you’d act differently if you had been where Buddy was. You could never have expected Buddy to just allow him in and accept it so easily.
I’m not saying Buddy is innocent especially in the sequel but Brad is the focus of the first game.
Absolutely nobody was gonna get a happy ending. Of course I get Brad and he was flawed, I like his character. I don’t like what he does, I felt more pity when he died rather than sadness as I could never really feel sad over a character like Brad’s. The same goes for Buddy. I pity their characters and the darkness is what makes this game so amazing
Did you really expect her to come out of this game undamaged??
(It’s just a game I’m aware but really.)
Underrated comment.
I loved your telling of Painful...
Can't wait for Joyfuk
Thank you very much! Happy to hear you enjoyed it so much!
It'll take some time to get Joyful done, but it's definitely on the list. I think it might be broken up into two parts, but I'm not sure yet. We'll see!
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_But it's definitely on the list._
*_On the list._*
Whoops! Meant to say it's definitely getting done next! Lol.
I love how Buddy was angry at Brad when Brad lost both his arms to rescue her
Glad to have a chance to enjoy an amazing game once more. Wish Dingaling would resurface with a new project though.
He's apparently working on "Ninja Tears", but I don't know how "real" that is. Lol.
Thanks for watching! Hope you enjoyed! :)
@@SquatchGamingChannel I saw that a while ago though any information on that project is a few years old. Also sadly his twitter feed has gone cold for a fair while.
Yeah, the last thing I saw him say was like "I'm going dark to work on Ninja Tears which will come out in 2030" or something to that effect. I know making games is stressful. Maybe it got to him...
@@SquatchGamingChannel I can sadly believe that. Still he made an amazing game series and no matter what, if anything, happens next he should be proud.
5:25 i love howw mans is beating thr propeller on the sail as a propeller and he doesent even aknowledge it.
I love this game because you can see it in so many ways, and in so many ways it tells a very dark, horrible, and wretched story that's good for nobody.
Nobody in this wasteland will get a good ending, because nobody can ever get what they want.
It is a very painful game for everyone involved, story wise.
You never fail to deliver do you, Squatch?
Depends on your expectations, I think. Lol.
Thanks for watching, man! Happy to hear you enjoyed! :)
"Brad yells... *STAHP*."
Nice to see people still talking about LISA to this day.
We'll never die.
Heck yeah, man! It's a fantastic game series!
Thanks for watching!
… but Brad was *right* tho. Keeping your daughter in a bunker and not allowing her to leave because men would rape her on sight would have been crazy in ANY setting but this one. He was 100% right, and it really feels like the only reason the plot goes this way is because Buddy is a fucking moron. Why doesn’t she blame Rick or Sticky? If they’d never taken her, NONE of this would have happened. But at no point does she reflect on this. She gets captured and injured, and then when Brad saves her: she runs off gets captured and injured *again* and *again.*
It seems like you’re supposed to feel like the bad guy, and “oh this is all from Brad’s fucked up perspective so this isn’t REALLY what’s happening” but… no. Tardy knew she was in the truck, and was *right.* Rando commented on her injuries. Those things are real, and they are all direct results of her running off when she can’t take care of herself! I’d be really interested in counting the number of horrible endings Buddy could have gotten if Brad gave her what she wanted and didn’t save her.
The long journey's finally over, and damn was this final part a lot heavier than the previous ones.
Good stuff my man, take a breather now.
It's clear how much hard work went into this.
Thanks, Luka. I'll be taking it easy for day or so. It was a long, crazy journey, but it's only beginning! We've still got the Joyful to cover! ;)
Lissa the painful is one whole big communication issue between parent and child.
JlLovePie, okay. Which one? Marty and Brad? Marty and Lisa? Yado (spoilers) and Buddy? Brad and Rando? Brad and Buddy? There’s a lot of failed/toxic parent-child relationships.
Bro the way you screamed “STOP” at around 15:55 had me fucking dying of laughter. I’m not sure why but it reminded me of sr. Pelo.
Lol. I got into it, man!!! I can't say either. Maybe you heard something similar in one of his videos?
Thanks for watching!
Squatch Gaming Official, yep, good video as always!
Very real theme in a very unreal setting.
10:12
Lisa: was I a joke to you?
Teenager years man bad years...
Yeah, it's rough, man! Lol.
Yeah i feel you as well.
15:56 YOU VIOLATED THE LAW
Thanks I wanted to know the full history of this game without having to play it. you do an excellent job summarizing. Thank you. I wish someone would summarize it like that with old games like Chrono Triger or Zelda Ocarina of Time etc.
Woah wait a minute how did you manage to get 5 party members to appear around 11:09
Editing magic, my friend. Lol.
We'll get to the Analyses eventually! Got to summarize the Joyful, and then we'll be moving to the characters!
Squatch Gaming Official YAY
Did you know that there were more than 35 unlockable party members in the game?
@@victorydance6439 mhm but they got scrapped
Editing, that's what canonically happens though, every party member -that didn't die or leave- comes to fight Brad in their final stand.
*STAHP*
*SQUATCH.*
Meh, what to add that hasn't be said again and again?
Brad was deeply flawed, but he was genuinely trying his best. Intentions doesn't justify bad results, but should at least offer some comprehension and empathy. He was trying. Which is why i, and a lot of other people, dislike Buddy. From a bird's eye, she does appear unreasonable and ungrateful. For all the bad things Brad did in raising her, he was 1) trying his best and 2) still being vastly better than basically all the alternatives she had in such a effed up world, something that 3) she should have noticed very early in her time away from him. His behaviour might justify Buddy saying that she wants to leave, to explore the world, even if it is dangerous, to not be with Brad anymore... but not BS line like "you have done nothing but hurt me" 10 seconds after he stopped the guy grating her face. That was just plain dumb. Like, really dumb. Like, so dumb it ruins a lot of other good things in the story. I am not saying to insert a scene where she hugs him, in pain and tears, but at least a moment of doubt where she does wonder if she was safer with him? Even if just for a while? .....it was just dumb.
Marty is an ahole. Oh, you changed? Yeah, well, too late and too bad. How do you move on from such terrible actions? And if you really changed, if you are remorseful, than accept that your victims might still want and extract justice (revenge) out of you.
Buzzo is a ridicolous psychopath. Just take away his damn plot armor, come on.
Overall, i am not in awe of this story as everyone seems to be. I deeply dislike emotional manipulation with cheap tactics. This story would have been better with a more flashed out, reasonable Buddy and less excessively evil villains like Buzzo. Beside, the graphic and gameplay were really bad.
The game is a piece of art. Also great video, dude. I really hope one day you'll have 100k+ views per video! ;)
Thanks a lot, man! If I keep at it, I might get there one day! Just gotta keep working, and hope I get lucky! :)
this helped me understand lisa the painful even more. thank for the video.
Just finished the game today. Absolutely loved it and excited to start Joyful later.
Great video of a game I’m never gonna play but has peeked my interest
I’ve played this game numerous times over and over again and this ending sill brings me to tears. And don’t you even get me started on the Joyful *+UglySobbing*
Glad I found your channel, great summaries/overviews. I'd just like to say, I have a daughter, and it wouldn't take any drugs to motivate me to crawl through a post-apocalyptic wasteland to get her back.
20:03 honestly one of the most disturbing sound effect I've heard in a game
Nah it's either the wally clown laugh or the sound when you get the withdrawal debuff
And possibly Brad screaming
Moral of the story: In the world of the Lisa series, everything is Marty's fault.
That bit where the credits turn into violent messages is do unsettling
"Commandingly, Brad screams:
STAH"
Okay I appreciate the summary, and I know that's an emotional moment, but that one word has me f*cking dying over here
Buddy got saved by brad being scarred and then she yells at him poor brad
Hugging Brad at the end is an absolute necessity. If you don’t hug him, you’re a monster.
So, was Marty real?
Yes, he was. That was the man in the flesh!
Squatch Gaming Official Woah......
Yeah, a real monster...
Top notch effort and quality material.
Goodness gracious... This is just awful... The only good ending I see is having a game over. At the start I was thinking that Brad was on the right, she was too young and foolish and the apocaliptic world would chew any young girl that can't fight back. But learning he taught her how to fight back and seeing how she indeed demonstrated skill in fleeing from danger and surviving on her own... Brad's the bad guy... He sort of destroyed everything, Buddy actually had allies, allies that indeed could have had bad intentions, but personally I think that "the greater good" was a hyper good argument, even if Brad gave up on Joy, it was too late, it was too late.
So brad let his son down like his father and killed his own son too
I mean it was already bad but I’m sure seeing a man bigger than you slaughter your uncles and a whole group in front of you. Then murdering a warlord in front of you, approaching you covered in blood and scars - may be scary for someone her age.
And beforehand it was implied that Brad’s (probably unintentionally) emotionally abused her especially when he doesn’t give context to many of the situations. Making her kill a man, or even multiple. Not to mention she’s being absolutely suffocated by Brad, either being constantly watched over or intimidated by his drugged/drunken state.
I don’t think it would make sense for Buddy to NOT run away. Scared and confused and that’s what causes people to rebel. I wouldn’t feel like she was real if she clung and made up with Brad.
I dunno - I guess many just don’t like it when things get harder for the characters. There’s no way Buddy couldn’t have become how she is in Joyful. I see it no real other way.
But that’s just me
Yep that's what any normal teen would do brad doesn't say anything about his origin or about what he wants to do with buddy
This story summary was amazing very well conveyed and you did the game justice.
Thanks.
10:11 Goddamn it…
I mean really? I know Brad was being an awful parent to her, but come on, the world she is living in is infested with psychotic men that are desperate for sexual urges.
I’ve noticed an odd dichotomy between people who’ve played the series versus people who’ve only watched UA-cam videos.
Most people who’ve played the series view Brad as a horribly flawed, but ultimately human and sympathetic character.
Versus people who’ve only experienced the game through UA-cam form usually view him as an extremely evil and abusive monster, akin to his father.
I’m sure some people could make an argument for both viewpoints, just found it a little interesting
Seeing popular comments of calling Buddy ungrateful is ridiculous. We can acknowledge that Brad was coming from a place of well intention that Buddy isn’t acknowledging AND that he was suffocating and cruel to Buddy in order to make up for his own personal regret that had nothing to do with her.
i believe most of the people commenting that are kids themselves tbh,
@@lototheflo9640 she has a valid reason for hating him but in joyful shes just a prick
Yeah mate he was only "Suffocating" because he wants to.
All this people saying Buddy was ungrateful...
You need to grow
I was like you, 15 thinking she was a bitch.
But she wasnt, she was acting as normal as you can get
I wanted to jump out of a window when I had to kill Terry. He didnt even fight back. Jesus christ this is a depressing series
I came here right after binging the videos on Hotline Miami... Needless to say, I felt really really really sad after watching this video and letting all the info sink in.
Yeah, it’s a much different story. A lot more “Painful” you could say! XD
It's 03:43 in the morning and I just finished this. Fuck
Also, a big, big thank you. Amazing content, as in, i've never played the game, nor I intend to, and I just wanted this: a lore summary. And you filled in everything I needed, and for the first time in years I watched 4 videos longer than 10m, 20m actually. Thank you. These games, I didn't cry in the end, which is what I do normally, I just stood there, looking at that scarred bald man, with the most strange feeling i've probably felt in years lmao
Ah this game series, fucked up, but somehow gorgeous.
Brad Illusions
Dusty : forgive me dad
Lisa : unforgivable
Marty: you are a failure
So like, call me out if I'm wrong, but the assertion that Buddy is just a child, and not ready, is right. She is a child. She's not ready to repopulate the world. Hell, she was raped! I can't imagine Sticky did anything other than rape her with the way she describes it! Am I supposed to agree with her and think Brad needs to back off? Even some of his companions wanted to rape her! Seriously what the fuck am I supposed to think about this other than a father trying desperately to protect his (ungrateful af) daughter from what he couldn't save his sister from the only ways he can. He tried to make it safe for her to go out. He made her a mask and walked her outside. He tried. And Buddy took it for granted
15:55 and brad commandingly said STAHP.
Yeeeeeees, you didn't let me down ❤
Awesome to hear! Hopefully I can deliver on the Joyful as well!
Thanks for the video , please do lisa the joyful next!
Killing Spaghetti was the worst atrocity that Columbo committed
God this game is so bleak
Great way to get my christmas mood going
marty being alive was the most jojo thing I've ever seen
God damn you know how to narrate. Cannot wait for The Joyful. Lisa the Pointless would be a nice surprise as well.
I just try my best, man. Happy to hear you like it so much! :)
The Joyful is getting done now, but I won't make any promises on the Pointless. I know it's canon, but I wanted to focus mainly on the main series. We'll see where we are when I'm finished with the main series.
And, dude, I feel you on the killing Terry thing. It was so sad... :(
@@SquatchGamingChannel Whatever you do you definitely got a fan. Im trying to get back into producing some media of my own as soon as i get a new rig. This channel is a great source for ground up inspiration.
Thanks, man!
Oh, you're trying to make videos too? You don't need that fancy of a rig to do it, man! All of my editing is done on a Macbook Pro from 2012!
@@SquatchGamingChannel Well I used to rap back in the day and I make instrumentals like everyday when im not gaming or when i get off work. I also write scripts for some series im working on. My schedule switched up and im starting to have more time to work on these things. All i need is a rig and a couple programs and ill be good to go
Jeez, sounds like you're a busy man! Keep working at it, man! I'm sure it'll all work out for you eventually!
in the end the answer is only one
"Word of love"
srsly if they tell each other from the start this kind of ending will not come, most of people think Act is better that word, but just Simply said "i love you" is harder than what u can imagine, like word for ensure and act are for self satisfying.
just take it as example :
>telling your mom or dad that you love them are harder than giving them many present.
"trauma is a explanation, not a justification."
ITS HERE BABY WOOOOOO!!!?!!?
Hope you enjoy, man! Thanks for watching! :)
Squatch Gaming Official: Brad screams STOP
Me: hahahaha
Wasn’t it odd that when you were fighting the rando army your attacks changed? Not only that but you got to scream. See I think Brad turned just as he got to that part because how else could he take all of those guys on?
Rando deserved better
12:43 Inaccurate, he has no arms.
Now that the main story is complete, there goes the little details, it was rather complete.
I didnt even realize that the joy had a obcessive effect hahaah
There's a lot more to cover, but we've got to hit the Joyful first to really complete the story!
Squatch Gaming Official if you need anything, i'm here
Brøther Suika me as well
Man, that trumpet man..
Well that was cool. Can't wait for Lisa the Joyful.
Also, have you ever played Lone Survivor: Director's Cut ? It's a 2D Psychological horror game with an amazing story and ambience. I think you'd like it, and it'd make really interesting videos
Thanks a lot! It'll be a bit before Joyful, but that's definitely next! :)
No, I haven't. I'll look into it though! I'm always down to play new games (although I don't usually play horror games cause I'm a scaredy cat! Lol).
@@SquatchGamingChannel Don't worry it's not that scary, more psychological :D
Dusty deserved better.
Brad is such a badass
He fights a warlord while almost fatally wounded with no arms.
*HE WINS*
_slides on face_ *_VIOLENTLY_*
And Brad says, *”STAHP”*