Well, Dingaling, the creator of these games, was asked once who he thinks is the worst character in the LISA games, and he answered Lisa. Many people have tried to convey the idea that by "worst" he meant underdeveloped, or just bland, but to the same question he was answering another one: which was his least favorite character, which he answered it was Buddy. So by "worst" he must have meant as in evil, or unscrupulous, and yeah, it was kind of a shocker for me too. Why not fucking Marty, or Yado, or hell, even Buzzo? I mean, those guys are pretty FUBAR, far worse than whatever Lisa could have done. But she had a hand in fucking up Buzzo, thus fucking up Brad, thus fucking up Buddy, and sure, Lisa is an abuse victim, but she's not a good person. She's manipulative, resentful, and judging by the way he made Buzzo treat an animal, violent, and a potential psychopath. It's really hard to see her as anything other than a poor victim, but she's not. She drove Buzzo to madness, and in that madness he ruined Dusty's face on a fit of anger towards Brad, then helped Yado ruin the world because fuck it, why not, and then fueled Brad's addiction to Joy so as to enslave him as a mutant, all the while making him suffer over a senseless revenge. And he kept seeing her in his trips on Joy, driving the addiction that would kill him in the end. All he had to do to realize that Brad was actually a good person, was to let go of Lisa. All Brad had to do to let Buddy go (a thing that he couldn't do not even by killing Marty, the face of his abuse, his guilt, and addiction), was to let go of Lisa. To me, Marty is still the true villain, given that if he weren't the piece of shit he was to his daughter, maybe she wouldn't have drove Buzzo insane, Brad wouldn't need drugs to cope with the guilt, and Yado wouldn't have been able to distribute Joy so easely on post apocaliptic Olathe. Hell, without Buzzo's help, maybe he wouldn't have been able to even develop Joy in the first place. But Marty lived on, and he found a way to redeem himself. He saved Buddy. And in the end, if he's to be believed, he didn't forgave himself for what he did to Lisa. But Lisa didn't got a chance to fix what was broken, instead leaving the pieces to be picked up after all the damage was done, and in the making. Buzzo blamed Brad and wanted revenge. Brad blamed himself and wanted to numb his guilt. Brad wanted to protect Buddy the way he couldn't Lisa, and Buddy hated him for it. They are all broken, and looking for second chances to make things right. And thus, Lisa's death is in the center of all their suffering.
This was amazingly thought out and well written. I'm pinning it to the top so other people can read this through! Thank you so much for typing all of this out!
It does kind of surprise me too, but I suppose the point of it was to show that abuse victims are just as capable of reproducing the damage done to them. Lisa obviously couldn’t foresee the numerous consequences her actions would have, but the pain she caused that she knowingly facilitated is undeniable. It shows that even the most vulnerable can turn into ruthless monsters if they don’t keep themselves in check.
Amazing comment. This video series had me up to 4AM so ye im intrigued. Its a horrible story which one can compare to the infamous Emergence (Metamorphosis) with all the themes of depression and family, rape, and incest. Really dont like reading or viewing this types of things in one way. It makes me uncomfortable knowing such horrible things actually happen in the world and that people have to suffer these things. But either way its amazingly written and very good to see art being able to dive so deep into dark thoughts. I feel like thinging dark things and exploring those emotions is better than locking them away. As to not bottle up on impulses and shame. True self control is letting go. But yes thank you for this and thanks to the amazing creator @squatch Gaming Official for this and the hotline series. This is the first time ive found myself very fond of analysis of video game art. (sorry for bad grammar)
@@martinyoon5252 it always felt like that scene played right after buzzo visits brad's dojo. Like, skitcky ask him whats wrong and it's not like brad can just say all the shit thats happened to him. "Oh yeah you know, my sisters childhood sweetheart just sawed my sons face off. Just another monday." And the he drops that "i held my chin up" line. Honestly, what an ego-centric piece of shit.
I know a lot of people kinda hate Buddy, but to me, the ending where she chooses to take the vaccine, give birth to a child, and mourn her friends and family with mutant Brad, is what redeems her. Brad had good intentions, but his actions negatively affected his daughter. But after she loses her brother, goes through everything that scarred her, finally forgives her father, and gives humanity a second chance, showing the plants growing back, with her baby and Brad enjoying everything, whist mourning Buzzo and Dusty, this, to me, gives her some redemption.
@@mikelarsson7838 Nah, she was years older when she had the baby and rando died way earlier when she was a child. Again, it was probably a one night stand with a random survivor.
Marty abused Lisa Lisa manipulated Buzzo Buddy killed Rando Brad lost Buddy Buzzo killed Dr Yazo So many people died because of a couple of people treating others unfairly.
Realistically, I don't think that Buddy was Brad's second chance. I think it was Dusty. Since he adopted dusty, but then disliked him for some reason. I think why he disliked him was, not because he actually disliked dusty, but rather what happened to him. Dusty's face being mutilated, to me, meant that Brad had failed yet again. That he had let someone else down again, and now Dusty had to permanently face that- and Brad would have to deal with that whenever he would look at the face of Dusty, which is why he had to cast Dusty out, and never remember him- even though he probably still loved him, and dusty did as well, he just couldn't cope with looking at Dusty's face anymore, and what it reminded him of.
yeah play the game for yourself and we'll see about that after Rando leaves you alone and runs away. Squatch you make these games feel like they are so easy when you're telling the story
@@victorydance6439 i mean painful can be real easy if you have the right party. Nern, ollie, and fly is pratically unbeatable. Especially when/if brad can still use fireballs.
Ever since I first saw gameplay of The Painful, I thought "Oh the girl is Lisa? No, the girl's name is Buddy. Then who's Lisa?" and did not get an answer for a while. Even then, after the seeing the story of The First, I wondered why Painful and Joyful were both under the main name of Lisa. But now I get it, Lisa (particularly her death) was the main thing that caused everything in the story to happen, all of the driving forces of the story came about from Lisa. She's the reason for Brad's obsession with keeping Buddy safe and therefore the reason for Buddy's obsession with being the strongest and not being controlled. She's the reason for Buzzo torturing Brad. I can appreciate good naming, whether it's characters with clever names, or tracks in a soundtrack named well. The name of this series is perfect. At first it doesn't mean much, it's the name of the character in the first game that is just about nowhere to be seen in the other two other than in the main menu. But it's given so much more context by the end of The Joyful, it just fits so well in the overall story and the greater meaning behind the name being revealed little by little is astounding.
That's very true. Another parental struggle: you know how dangerous everything is (especially in Olathe/Brad's case), but no matter how much you try to warn your child, they want to experience it for themselves...
@@victorydance6439 not like he was taking that cause of Marty's abuse and his sisters suicide or anything. Joy he was forced into taking by his sisters childhood sweetheart who she made mutilate animals and perversed his mind. Who resented brad for "letting Lisa die".
@@somedude1331 blind to his two best friends stabbing him in the back (maybe literally in cheeks case) and perverting his daughters mind maybe. I can't say i would be down for a bunch of guys banging a 12 year old, even if she's a-okay with it and she's the last girl on earth. Someone that age doesn't understand the complications (especially mentally) that come with that and the process of childbirth could easily kill them. Or as brad puts it "she's just a kid". I mean, for real, just look at how well it played out for buddy. Dad = mutated, drove insane. Self = eye cut off nipple too possibly (fuck buddy she's always 1 nipple down in my games; shows brads compassion for others besides buddy too), raped once possibly twice, is a drug addict (started taking joy in the painful as soon as she got away from brad, least its implied with her knowledge of the drug to marty). Brother = dead, she killed him for trying to keep her safe. Great kid lemme tell ya.
There's some... Experimental stuff going on in the video. Lemme know if you like it, or if you think I shouldn't try to do stuff like that again. Lol. I'd also like to get your feedback on how you think the series (the Painful and Joyful summaries in particular) has gone as a whole. I feel they've focused more on re-telling the story so explaining the behind the scenes stuff has kinda taken a back seat as a result. I think they turned out that way because I wanted to tell the story as it's told by the game, and summarize stuff along the way (it's why the ends of the part's have those like "recap" moments where the character reflects on what's happened in the part). Do you like the story telling focus, or would you rather I just focus on the facts and explain what happens and why in future summaries? Any insight or input you have to offer would help me improve further which I'm always eager to do! Also, thank you so much for watching the video, and reading this (if you did)! I really appreciate it and hope you enjoyed the video! :)
Everything you're doing is awesome. I had no idea about this game, but you're story telling and explaining the game...it's just a textbook material on script writing, video editing and even voice acting (You made me confused with it, but after watching the video, I can say you did good). It's also free content, so don't feel sorry if you'll make a minor mistake or smth. I happenes to all of us. Thank you for making all of those videos, you're one of those UA-camrs that are making loads of people hyped just by uploading ONE VIDEO. Even though you don't have 1mil subs, you have a lot better content than 75% of those famous ones and the best community out there.
I've been eagerly awaiting all of those videos and i wasn't disappointed, and for a reason too. Re-telling the story like you makes it very immersive and enjoyable to listen and watch. I can't really imagine those videos being any different and if they were, they would be worse and without that certain "charm" you give them. All in all it was a perfect (in my opinion) take on the game and you should honestly do more of that. I'd love tuning in for it every time as i did so far. Keep it up Squatch.
Idk about that textbook stuff. man! I'm sure there's people out there that can do much better. Lol. But thanks for the kind words, Maciek, and thanks for sticking with me for as long as you have!
Thanks, man. Words can't really express how thankful I am to hear you were eager for them (if you were being genuine ;) ). I plan on making more, but I was sure about the direction these have made me turn towards, but if you say it's good, then I'll chalk one up to "More acting," I suppose! Lol.
Thanks for the hidden stuff. Finally Buzzo is explained, Lisa is. I’ve just thought we get a small glimpse to the immeasurable pain of the Armstrong family, but this genuinely ties all loose ends.
The biggest unspoken tragedy in the lisa series is that the hope plced on Buddy is a foolish one. Even if Buddy had 10 kids and they were all girls, humanity would still go extinct after a few generations due to lack of genetic diversity which can cause many different health problems
The odds of a life-altering birth defect due to parent/child or brother/sister incest is only about 50% in the real world. As long as the number of children born per female is more than double the replacement rate, it could still work.
Not true! With careful breeding it's definitely possible, Olathe definitely has enough young people to help Buddies children exceed the 50 of the 50/500 rule before Buddies offspring needs to start breeding with each other. It won't be great and will require careful planning, but it's possible
If she wanted too She could of collected sperm from dead bodies I know that sounds disgusting But that's literally the only way if everyone else was dead
Squatch Gaming Official would’ve loved if you tried to synch more to the best of the text, but it was a good shocking touch. I did feel like the previous part was a tad dull for me as someone who already played the game, but this little touch gave the video something in addition to a description of the motion of things. Nice touch 👌
Love these games. I feel like a lot of pop media lacks nuance when it comes to heroes or villains. LISA has no heroes or villains, only broken people creating more broken people.
I don't think that Brad ever took part in hurting Lisa, but I do think he didn't do as much to go against his father back then. That moment after the bottle drinking scene is likely the moment he ran away from home in the end.
You really brought out the characters and i love the few enhancements you did for mutated buzzo. But its clear that buzzo is the kid with the blonde bowl cut hair that was in brads karate class~ And dusty obviously is the kid whose face got disfigured when brad found him in his dojo. Buzzo was definitely behind this as disty says that the person who jacked his face up said it was for Lisa. Amirite or amirite.
But wouldn’t that mean that Buzzo literally hasn’t aged at all? Brad started up the dojo as an adult (I believe he was in his 30s when the Dusty mutilation happened), yet Lisa died when they were both kids. Bowlcut kid is just bowlcut kid
Your videos explained the game a lot to me thanks I really enjoyed it. A friend introduced me to this game and I did not regret it. Such a good story. The ending with brad with the flowers sticking out of him literally made me cry. So emotional. He did his best for Buddy and he deserved more than his dad life. SUCH A GOOD STORY
14:30 I just don't get why killing your brother purposefully makes Mutant Buddy have the Baby in her arms and obviously more specifically/importantly make the course of events have the Baby come into existence only in timeline where she kills her Brother, I don't see/understand that connection
@@TheGoldenKing20 the baby appears when you drop and kill your brother, not when you hold on giving chance for rape, so only make sense if it appears after holding on to the wire giving chance for rape but again, it appears if you let go
It is because she lost all trust in humanity when rando told the truth. By dropping him, there was still a little bit of belief in rando's words, and the idea that not all of the men are bad. So I'd imagine she attempted to have a kid because that lie held true in her mind.
@@PatRick-mq6ss yes the baby appears in the "leave them" option, that's not the question at hand, I was talking about the "join them" option, if you do join but but hold on to brother there is no baby found, so that's the scenario I am speaking of, why is it that joining them and "not" dropping brother makes there be "no" baby found, however join and do drop brother and the baby comes into existence in that scenario
@@aldoparziale2631Probably found the child when going for Dusty's corpse, the one choice where you hold on you don't, but the other choice where you let go, you do. ( I have no idea if I am making sense or not, I really don't )
Okay everyone Buddy's not really that bad of a character. It's actually beautifully written as it shows how relative each perspectives are. You all get to be pissed because you get to see all the other perspectives not just her. But if you were to put yourself in her shoes you get to understand that was breed this way and was the culmination of the traumas from all the other character spanning from all the games in the series.
Damm these games, are why I love indie games, the music is spot on. The characters are memorable and make you feel for them, like the old rpgs and a few other games on older systems. I just hope there's more Games like theses that come out.
People hate buddy and I think that’s the poiNt. I like it because it feels more real for her to act like this, I don’t think she’s acting on stupidity. More on instinct, Brad’s lessons, the physical pain she was put through before, JOY. All of it, and people really expect her to be ‘likeable’? Her thinking is warped, it’s likely to be that way. All the things she’s been through of course she’s not gonna act like anything other than an asshole. It just feels more real to me, which is why I like Buddy from a story view. I know many people aren’t gonna like me saying that but that’s just how I feel. If she was ‘completely’ likable it wouldn’t be Lisa. The story just wouldn’t work. Which is why I praise Dingaling.
It’s funny seeing the parallels between Brad, Lisa, Rando and, Buddy Rando and Buddy are siblings to an ill equipped (sometimes abusive) single parent, Rando is the older sibling and more affected by the other sibling than the parent ( like Brad with Marty) while the younger female sibling is more impacted by the father figure than their older brother
Thanks for watching, man! Idk if you noticed, but I did that filter thing for the Popping Ps and I've noticed a difference. But then again, I was looking for one. Haha. Thanks for pointing that out!
Hope you enjoyed! :) I'm not sure about them just yet. There's some other video I want to make on the Painful/Joyful. We'll see where we are after those are finished.
yeah hopeful might come a year later if he tries to finish hopeful without a tutorial or without cheats, that game is HARD. haven't played hopeful yet but im pretty sure that spraying your enemies with bullets isnt going to be very hard
@@victorydance6439 Well i got stuck at the drunk(area 2) level at hopeful but i think Pointless is hard because it has really hard enemies (especially The Infinity franchise) and you can run out of supplies because of the previous fight.(Maybe I just suck?)
In Painful, flowers are a symbol of beauty and purity. Buzzo is left with one on his grave. Mutated Rando has one in the subconscious of Buddy. And Brad is covered in them. Maybe Buddy has come to know she isn’t a good person, finding those people she resents before to slowly appear differently than what she would think. She even acknowledges her father’s hatred for himself, and maybe this means deep down she holds a conscience that we don’t see of Buddy. In the end with the newborn child, I like to think in a head cannon [from my strong dislike of Buddy] that her child(ren) will grow to resent their own mother and holds a belief that goes against Buddy’s. That child would witness a mother of addiction, (most likely) withdrawal of truth their whole life, and genocide. Due to loneliness and feelings of abuse, this child will mirror the same dynamic of Marty and Lisa. And in the end I see Buddy realise she reflects what she sees in her own father in her, a monster. Hence this becomes a cycle of abuse.
Well I don’t know why I just spent an hour of my time learning about this depressing story. Damn you, curiosity. I’ll never forget this and it’ll probably make me sad for years to come. 10/10, would do again
im late as hell but you involving yourself with the dialogue on-screen keeps things interesting for even someone like me who's played the LISA games a bunch of times. It caught me off guard and it was very interesting.
I really liked your presentation. You clearly were touched by the game as we all were. I'm glad somebody recounted the whole thing so I could see the different choices/endings relative to everything going on without having to replay it multiple times. So, just wondering, I presume Dr. Yado was not lying and was actually Buddy's biological father (although Buzzo says otherwise to completely break the young, impressionable Buddy's ties to a very disgraceful, deranged man). You also find in his joy compound (in Lisa the Painful) the only other woman in the game. Is that Buddy's mother? Also, the woman suspiciously looks like that elongated joy mutant that first confronts Buddy and kills the "Golden Opportunist" later. Did she become that mutant? Did Brad incorrectly assume she was dead when she was really just in a deep Joy coma?
Thanks for watching, Jonathan! I'm happy to hear you enjoyed so much! :) It's heavily implied (but not confirmed, I don't think) that the woman in the Joy Lab was Yado's "Wife" and therefore Buddy's mother. I had the same thoughts myself, but that woman is not Sweetheart. Dingaling (the developer) confirmed as much himself.
Hmm... If Lisa was that psychopathically horrible by herself even without being an Abuse victim, then, What of Lisa's and Brad's mother? Is she the one who Lisa took many features from? Since the game clearly shows that Lisa would have been a psycho even without the influence of Marty, since Abuse victims aren't so open to doing such horrible things to other beings (Such in the case of Buzzo, and the captured and tortured animal) which also had a domino effect of creating both the strongest and most hurt people in the Olathe waste land (Them being Brad, Buzzo, Dusty and of course Buddy) 1.Brad:Well for Obvious reasons, for one, she was disappointed in him for not being there for her when Marty did his shtick... And for the second thing, him possibly partaking in doing he same thing as his father while being in a drunken state because of Marty 2.Buzzo:Also obvious, with the way she manipulated him by being in the situation that she was in and making him both mentally and literally get wrapped around her fingers... From the point where she made him mutilate the animal, and then her and then even poor Dusty after her commiting suicide because her mutilation didn't make Marty leave her alone.. Which drove him to internalized insanity which lead to him working with Yado and creating the joy pill that he would use to torture Brad with. But would never forget the mental torture and manipulation he had to go through even after making Brad a representation of his Id/Joy mutant form that he kept as a memory of "Victory" for Lisa 3.Dusty:He was more of a side effect/aftermath of Buzzo's insanity (because of Lisa) which lead to his face to be ripped apart by Buzzo because he was viewed as Brad's son, but he seemed to be the least affected by the tragedy and somehow got over it by picking up the persona of Rando and making himself look menacing and unbreakable 4.Buddy:She is literally the byproduct of Yattos madness, Marty's horribleness, Lisa's psychopathy, and Brad's drug abuse. And she managed to get mingled into the Armstrong's by non other than Buzzo, Lisa's personal puppet himself, who begged Yatto to give Buddy to Brad, who teached her survival skills against other humans, but made her feel caged and forced because of his drunken stupper (He had because of Lisa and Marty) and his joy abuse, which made her to have a need of a supremacy complex for her to never feel caged ever again, neither by Brad, Brad's Son Dusty, or her own Father Yado... Or TL:DR You can either blame most of the things happening because of Lisa herself, or because of Marty (and probably Brad) abusing her
Who know, man? Maybe Dale, the dude that tried to molest Buddy while she was tied up, or maybe someone we didn't even meet in the game! I've even heard some people speculate that it's Dusty or Brad. I think it's open to interpretation!
The Hero of Chaos I think it’s Sticky, since he claimed to “educate” her on how important she is to humanity, in Painful. I think that was his subtle way of saying that he impregnated her.
I don't see how that baby can be hope for humanity. Like pretty much everyone is dead, and even if it's a girl we're in the same boat as the start of the painful...
Thanks for the series, you helped me understand a game i always have wanted to try out but never got the chance to do so. I love every minute of it even tho the voice acting was kinda over the top for this particular one, i didn't quite like it, but i can tell you had a lot of fun with it and that's what matters most. Cheers from france, buddy
France? That's awesome! Thanks for watching, man! Happy to hear you enjoyed! Sorry if the voice acting was distracting, I was trying out some new stuff!
@@drenchedinsyrupp6059 well the scientists associate that makes you do terrible things like chop off your arm. Did say something about other women in the world after buddy escaped him.
I don't think it was implied that Brad was complicit in what happened to Lisa. If he were an independent adult, that would be different. I especially didn't see it implied that he had sex with Lisa, though that is the kind of twisted story this game's creator would come up with.
Squatch Gaming Official You make some really awesome content and I’ve been a fan since the Hotline Miami videos. One thing you could have done with the video was do the voice acting for the Buzzo mutant battle, it seemed kinda choppy jumping from the voice acted bit to the narration, but it was still a great vid. Keep up the good work!
I originally had it that way, but found that his dialogue was distracting and actually took away from my narration, so I excluded it. It just didn't work. Lol.
Honestly at times I wonder, given the fact that it only we nothing about the outside and only has the view the people in Olathe, is it only that place affected?
Lol. Happy to hear, Shadow. There won't be summaries, but several characters in Lisa will be getting their own videos just like the Hotline Miami characters got!
You didn't spell anything wrong! I was making a joke. Lol. Distress as in "extreme anxiety", which is what I'm sure you're feeling as exams approach. It sounds drastically similar to "De-stress" which you were using correctly. Lol.
Having watched the story to these games, which people have hailed as some incredible triumph, I must confess that I'm left bewildered and wondering why. It's not that it's too disturbing, bizarre, cruel, or futile, but for me it's how exaggerated it all is. Essentially, within just this small area, hundreds of peoples' lives are ruined and ended because of events surrounding seven people; Marty, Brad, Lisa, Buzzo, Dusty, Yado, and Buddy. If Yado is behind the apocalypse, that would make the reach truly ridiculous. Honestly, the game would have had far more punch if the scale was pulled back dramatically, as it'd be more believable and relatable. "Gee, the world has ended, and here I am, a washed-up loser trying to raise an adoptive child, but because of my own traumas I'm doing a bad job of it and harming them too. Crap, this drug I'm taking is turning me into a disfigured monster, but only after warping my psyche so much that it exacerbates that abuse ironically as I'm driven to protect them." The nature of the drug is so specific, including its timing (he took it for years after all) that it reeks of plot contrivance, especially since there's an antidote! Wouldn't holding that over everyone else's head, demanding compliance and property in exchange for this panacea be a much better plan than ruling over mindless, shapeless globs of flesh? I get that he's crazy, but this is just stupid. I'd say a similar problem arises with how Buzzo would have agreed to help him along with this, with nothing to gain from it, instead of murdering someone who harms his own wife and daughter (considering how much he despises Brad, this is very confusing). Plus, it's never explained how this apocalypse took place such that it destroyed all women without killing all men, while also setting all of society back significantly. These huge plot points warrant some explanation. Regardless, I think the game would have worked better if Yado had distributed his pills amongst the community he lived in, using them as a scale test site in real-world conditions, perhaps pulling some strings here and there to manipulate people, stress them out, see different tolerance levels, watch people decay into monsters, let them run amok before the police would stop them, and record the results with apathetic but scientific glee. With everything under his control and going according to his plans he'd go on a power trip, thinking he could unrealistically take this to larger and larger scales, before it'd spiral out of his control and turn against him. Since the story never gives any explanation for it, I fail to see how he'd control any of these demented creatures after they mutated, with how unpredictable and violent they become, seemingly driven by specific desires and triggers. I could see him orchestrating a move to turn several people into mutants at once, considering the possibilities on a national level, before he's swept up in a bloodbath. That would have been a very horrific, brutal, yet grimly satisfying scene. After all, these innocent and suffering people have lost all humanity, theoretically irreversibly, but even without knowing what they're doing they're getting vengeance on the mad puppeteer who made them that way. A much better demise than what we got here. With this as part of the background to what took place with the other important characters, their events and the consequences of them would still be pretty large (small town scale), but to a much less unreasonable level. Also, more of the blame would fall to Yado, whereas here the women-crazy and violent men are more culpable, though oddly most of it falls onto Marty and Lisa. The choices of the abuser and his victim have so unwieldy an impact it's hard to take seriously, which somewhat makes light of what took place. Abusing a child and the natural results that spawn from such depravity makes for an uncomfortable, upsetting feeling. When it leads to the fall of civilization as we know it? It seems pretty dumb, and that's what I take from these games. It's overblown, contrived, and seems to be designed specifically to be manipulative by pumping it full of as much cruelty and tragedy as possible.
I think part of the problems is that this is actually just a fan game made canon, which brings a huge number of issues to the main story. It doesn't help that this game does feel kind of like an anime in how it deals with things. The main game didn't explain the world building that much but I thought that it was just because it wasn't focused on those things. It was more about the story about Brad trying to find Buddy and bring her home with the characters and comedy juxtaposition with all the fucked up things in this world being more of the focus (Although mostly the comedy). If I were to explain it would be sort of like how in some zombie media it doesn't explain everything about what caused the zombie apocalypse because it's more about the characters than the virus.
Jesus christ, so the twist was that EVERYONE was a victim of someone else. Buddy was like this because of what Brad did, but he only did what he did because of Buzz and Lisa… and Buzz *also* only did what he did cuz of Lisa… and *Lisa* only did what she did because… she was abused.
I'd rather not say no one did anything wrong. Everyone did something bad in this game. Everyone. There's just those people who had good intentions, that were still good people despite their bad deeds. It was Yado who was *truly* evil.
Rando, i'm 98% sure it's him. Remember that Rando himself staged the entire kidnapping part, he's the one constantly watching over buddy as she sleeps and he wants her to save humanity but yet gets upset as soon as someone tries to 'get with' buddy.
Buzzo could be a nickname for buzz saw or buzz cut. Buzzo knew and liked Lisa (meaning he should be the same age as Rando, and Lisa). I think it's him pre-nickname sawing the paw off the cat in preparation to do that to Lisa. Lisa then takes her life before he can work up the courage. Dustin/Rando was the test subject for him. After Lisa is gone, he works with Yado (remember that someone says "My name is Buzzo." to Yado in that scene). He finds Yado's plans to be crazy (take over the world with an addictive drug that turns people into single minded lunatics?)...yeah. The White Flash happens. Yado's plans go into overdrive. Buzzo knows about Joy, but in a world where fighting for your life is routine, it probably helps to take Joy (it heals your body and blanks out PTSD). He takes it, and becomes single minded enough to torment Brad over his "failure" to help Lisa. Explains why he keeps warning Buddy not to take Joy (at the end of it) and why he deliberately overdosed Brad during that confrontation.
just, speechless. good on those creators, i really do feel pain filled after this series. but, its kind of hopeful in the way it ends, maybe humanity really does get a second chance in the end. i hope so.
after all of the story summaries in this one we learn how everybody wasn't as bad as they look, they just had their minds darkened by something. the part where Brad tells Buddy how much he loved her almos brought me to tears if I can be honest. this was a great series, I will never forget it :) also I really liked the part where you voiced Rando when he was mutating; it gives the character more personality (at least for me) well... see ya'
It's the perfect storm of messed up conditions, character flaws, and tragic mistakes that creates the world of Lisa. Lol. Yeah, that part is freaking crazy for me. If, right now, I was a father to a daughter... I don't think I could get through it without crying... Lol. Thanks, man, but that's Buzzo! Not Rando! Shows how much you've learned if you don't even know the character's names! Lol Thanks for watching, man!
Well, Dingaling, the creator of these games, was asked once who he thinks is the worst character in the LISA games, and he answered Lisa. Many people have tried to convey the idea that by "worst" he meant underdeveloped, or just bland, but to the same question he was answering another one: which was his least favorite character, which he answered it was Buddy. So by "worst" he must have meant as in evil, or unscrupulous, and yeah, it was kind of a shocker for me too. Why not fucking Marty, or Yado, or hell, even Buzzo? I mean, those guys are pretty FUBAR, far worse than whatever Lisa could have done. But she had a hand in fucking up Buzzo, thus fucking up Brad, thus fucking up Buddy, and sure, Lisa is an abuse victim, but she's not a good person. She's manipulative, resentful, and judging by the way he made Buzzo treat an animal, violent, and a potential psychopath. It's really hard to see her as anything other than a poor victim, but she's not. She drove Buzzo to madness, and in that madness he ruined Dusty's face on a fit of anger towards Brad, then helped Yado ruin the world because fuck it, why not, and then fueled Brad's addiction to Joy so as to enslave him as a mutant, all the while making him suffer over a senseless revenge. And he kept seeing her in his trips on Joy, driving the addiction that would kill him in the end. All he had to do to realize that Brad was actually a good person, was to let go of Lisa. All Brad had to do to let Buddy go (a thing that he couldn't do not even by killing Marty, the face of his abuse, his guilt, and addiction), was to let go of Lisa.
To me, Marty is still the true villain, given that if he weren't the piece of shit he was to his daughter, maybe she wouldn't have drove Buzzo insane, Brad wouldn't need drugs to cope with the guilt, and Yado wouldn't have been able to distribute Joy so easely on post apocaliptic Olathe. Hell, without Buzzo's help, maybe he wouldn't have been able to even develop Joy in the first place. But Marty lived on, and he found a way to redeem himself. He saved Buddy. And in the end, if he's to be believed, he didn't forgave himself for what he did to Lisa. But Lisa didn't got a chance to fix what was broken, instead leaving the pieces to be picked up after all the damage was done, and in the making. Buzzo blamed Brad and wanted revenge. Brad blamed himself and wanted to numb his guilt. Brad wanted to protect Buddy the way he couldn't Lisa, and Buddy hated him for it. They are all broken, and looking for second chances to make things right. And thus, Lisa's death is in the center of all their suffering.
This was amazingly thought out and well written. I'm pinning it to the top so other people can read this through! Thank you so much for typing all of this out!
It does kind of surprise me too, but I suppose the point of it was to show that abuse victims are just as capable of reproducing the damage done to them. Lisa obviously couldn’t foresee the numerous consequences her actions would have, but the pain she caused that she knowingly facilitated is undeniable.
It shows that even the most vulnerable can turn into ruthless monsters if they don’t keep themselves in check.
Amazing comment. This video series had me up to 4AM so ye im intrigued. Its a horrible story which one can compare to the infamous Emergence (Metamorphosis) with all the themes of depression and family, rape, and incest. Really dont like reading or viewing this types of things in one way. It makes me uncomfortable knowing such horrible things actually happen in the world and that people have to suffer these things. But either way its amazingly written and very good to see art being able to dive so deep into dark thoughts. I feel like thinging dark things and exploring those emotions is better than locking them away. As to not bottle up on impulses and shame. True self control is letting go. But yes thank you for this and thanks to the amazing creator @squatch Gaming Official for this and the hotline series. This is the first time ive found myself very fond of analysis of video game art. (sorry for bad grammar)
I like this game series story
Yeah Lisa is a the main villian who did all the work in the progress of the flash event.
Its a shame that Brad never showed the same amount of love to Dusty
Isn't it? Like a puppy neglected by its owner...
he never could because there were no joy pills back then, there were no ways of him forgetting about lisa and his father...
fenafeses he did take pain killers which he got from sticky
@@martinyoon5252 it always felt like that scene played right after buzzo visits brad's dojo.
Like, skitcky ask him whats wrong and it's not like brad can just say all the shit thats happened to him.
"Oh yeah you know, my sisters childhood sweetheart just sawed my sons face off. Just another monday." And the he drops that "i held my chin up" line. Honestly, what an ego-centric piece of shit.
It wasn’t dusty fault since being a male he could not replace the spot Lisa held in brads heart
Buzzo: “YOU’RE TEARING ME APART LISA!”
...clever.
God Damn clever
Oh hi Brad
You've made my day
@Darren Peroza this is not true. She was dead when he mutilated Dusty. He did it by choice, to get at Brad because he blamed Brad for Lisa's death.
*Rando still did nothing wrong*
Ouch
@something anonymous considering his personality....................he still did nothing wrong
@@RedSpire-f1x ....................dot dot dot
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@Da Ufo my name is also not Shane Kid
@@derpdee63 who is this "Shane Kid" we are talking about?
people dont explain shit and suffer way too much for it:the series
Huh. Accurate.
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I know a lot of people kinda hate Buddy, but to me, the ending where she chooses to take the vaccine, give birth to a child, and mourn her friends and family with mutant Brad, is what redeems her.
Brad had good intentions, but his actions negatively affected his daughter. But after she loses her brother, goes through everything that scarred her, finally forgives her father, and gives humanity a second chance, showing the plants growing back, with her baby and Brad enjoying everything, whist mourning Buzzo and Dusty, this, to me, gives her some redemption.
What thatw her child wow but who's the father
@@cheehan81 Probably a one night stand from a random guy.
I think it's rando he is the only one she trusts and except to " fix the world "
Anyone else was aginst her
@@mikelarsson7838 Nah, she was years older when she had the baby and rando died way earlier when she was a child. Again, it was probably a one night stand with a random survivor.
@@MahouShoujo-Studios but wouldn't that be out of character for buddy i mean dale and bolo tried to rape her and she kills them
Marty abused Lisa
Lisa manipulated Buzzo
Buddy killed Rando
Brad lost Buddy
Buzzo killed Dr Yazo
So many people died because of a couple of people treating others unfairly.
Buzzo killed yazo
Means Marty killed Dr. Yado. What a genius chad.
Buddy killed Rando (technically they're a family)
@@windego64 I forgot I made a comment here
@@ricohernandez9969 not big surprise. I'll be Hella surprised if you remember
Realistically, I don't think that Buddy was Brad's second chance. I think it was Dusty. Since he adopted dusty, but then disliked him for some reason. I think why he disliked him was, not because he actually disliked dusty, but rather what happened to him. Dusty's face being mutilated, to me, meant that Brad had failed yet again. That he had let someone else down again, and now Dusty had to permanently face that- and Brad would have to deal with that whenever he would look at the face of Dusty, which is why he had to cast Dusty out, and never remember him- even though he probably still loved him, and dusty did as well, he just couldn't cope with looking at Dusty's face anymore, and what it reminded him of.
Joyfull in a nutshell
Buddy:Omae wa mou shindeiru
literally Evreyone:Nani
*Explosion*
yeah play the game for yourself and we'll see about that after Rando leaves you alone and runs away. Squatch you make these games feel like they are so easy when you're telling the story
and our hero Buddy heavily injured Dr. Yado after countless deaths
Demonetizatio n,
buzzo: omae wa mou shindeiru
Sweetheart: NANI?
@@victorydance6439 i mean painful can be real easy if you have the right party. Nern, ollie, and fly is pratically unbeatable. Especially when/if brad can still use fireballs.
There needed to be a terry hintz ending, where the hintster him self comes in and kills everyone, becoming the *true* ruler of Olath.
I would not be upset with that!
The man can conjure freaking EXPLOSIONS WITH HIS FISTS, he wouldn't have much of a problem doing so.
*Vengeance of the hintz*
"Hold on loosely, but don't let go. If you cling too tightly, you're gonna lose control."
I like that! What's that from?
@@SquatchGamingChannel 38 Special, I believe! Keep up the good work, my man.
I'll have to check it out. Thanks so much! I'm definitely going to keep trying my hardest! :)
@@SquatchGamingChannel Keep on keepin' on, brother! Your content is stellar! Happy to help.
Ever since I first saw gameplay of The Painful, I thought "Oh the girl is Lisa? No, the girl's name is Buddy. Then who's Lisa?" and did not get an answer for a while. Even then, after the seeing the story of The First, I wondered why Painful and Joyful were both under the main name of Lisa. But now I get it, Lisa (particularly her death) was the main thing that caused everything in the story to happen, all of the driving forces of the story came about from Lisa. She's the reason for Brad's obsession with keeping Buddy safe and therefore the reason for Buddy's obsession with being the strongest and not being controlled. She's the reason for Buzzo torturing Brad.
I can appreciate good naming, whether it's characters with clever names, or tracks in a soundtrack named well. The name of this series is perfect. At first it doesn't mean much, it's the name of the character in the first game that is just about nowhere to be seen in the other two other than in the main menu. But it's given so much more context by the end of The Joyful, it just fits so well in the overall story and the greater meaning behind the name being revealed little by little is astounding.
Man that Brad part is very heart crushing, props for the voice acting
That's Right ... That part make me cry so much no matter how I tried to be strong, but that part destroy not only my heart but also my soul.
Brad did nothing wrong.
The world around him was truly ruthlessly relentless. He did the best with the cards he was dealt.
That's very true. Another parental struggle: you know how dangerous everything is (especially in Olathe/Brad's case), but no matter how much you try to warn your child, they want to experience it for themselves...
He used joy, that was the only fault that he has done that lead to all the other problems that he caused
@@victorydance6439 not like he was taking that cause of Marty's abuse and his sisters suicide or anything. Joy he was forced into taking by his sisters childhood sweetheart who she made mutilate animals and perversed his mind. Who resented brad for "letting Lisa die".
Brad had good intentions, but he was kind of blind.
@@somedude1331 blind to his two best friends stabbing him in the back (maybe literally in cheeks case) and perverting his daughters mind maybe.
I can't say i would be down for a bunch of guys banging a 12 year old, even if she's a-okay with it and she's the last girl on earth. Someone that age doesn't understand the complications (especially mentally) that come with that and the process of childbirth could easily kill them.
Or as brad puts it "she's just a kid".
I mean, for real, just look at how well it played out for buddy.
Dad = mutated, drove insane.
Self = eye cut off nipple too possibly (fuck buddy she's always 1 nipple down in my games; shows brads compassion for others besides buddy too), raped once possibly twice, is a drug addict (started taking joy in the painful as soon as she got away from brad, least its implied with her knowledge of the drug to marty).
Brother = dead, she killed him for trying to keep her safe.
Great kid lemme tell ya.
warning: voice acting gets very real after 10:00. viewer discretion is advised
Yes, yes it does. Lol. Hopefully it wasn't too distracting...
Thanks for watching and being so interactive, man! I appreciate it!
Squatch Gaming Official a good attempt
@@SquatchGamingChannel yeah I realized that I keep replying to comments on Lisa videos lol
immersive.
yeah no fucking thank you
There's some... Experimental stuff going on in the video. Lemme know if you like it, or if you think I shouldn't try to do stuff like that again. Lol. I'd also like to get your feedback on how you think the series (the Painful and Joyful summaries in particular) has gone as a whole. I feel they've focused more on re-telling the story so explaining the behind the scenes stuff has kinda taken a back seat as a result. I think they turned out that way because I wanted to tell the story as it's told by the game, and summarize stuff along the way (it's why the ends of the part's have those like "recap" moments where the character reflects on what's happened in the part). Do you like the story telling focus, or would you rather I just focus on the facts and explain what happens and why in future summaries? Any insight or input you have to offer would help me improve further which I'm always eager to do!
Also, thank you so much for watching the video, and reading this (if you did)! I really appreciate it and hope you enjoyed the video! :)
Had a lot to say. Lol.
Everything you're doing is awesome. I had no idea about this game, but you're story telling and explaining the game...it's just a textbook material on script writing, video editing and even voice acting (You made me confused with it, but after watching the video, I can say you did good). It's also free content, so don't feel sorry if you'll make a minor mistake or smth. I happenes to all of us. Thank you for making all of those videos, you're one of those UA-camrs that are making loads of people hyped just by uploading ONE VIDEO. Even though you don't have 1mil subs, you have a lot better content than 75% of those famous ones and the best community out there.
I've been eagerly awaiting all of those videos and i wasn't disappointed, and for a reason too. Re-telling the story like you makes it very immersive and enjoyable to listen and watch. I can't really imagine those videos being any different and if they were, they would be worse and without that certain "charm" you give them. All in all it was a perfect (in my opinion) take on the game and you should honestly do more of that. I'd love tuning in for it every time as i did so far. Keep it up Squatch.
Idk about that textbook stuff. man! I'm sure there's people out there that can do much better. Lol.
But thanks for the kind words, Maciek, and thanks for sticking with me for as long as you have!
Thanks, man. Words can't really express how thankful I am to hear you were eager for them (if you were being genuine ;) ). I plan on making more, but I was sure about the direction these have made me turn towards, but if you say it's good, then I'll chalk one up to "More acting," I suppose! Lol.
Thanks for the hidden stuff. Finally Buzzo is explained, Lisa is. I’ve just thought we get a small glimpse to the immeasurable pain of the Armstrong family, but this genuinely ties all loose ends.
Yeah, the game really succeeds in answering (most of) our questions!
Thanks for watching, man! Happy to hear it closed everything out for you!
The biggest unspoken tragedy in the lisa series is that the hope plced on Buddy is a foolish one. Even if Buddy had 10 kids and they were all girls, humanity would still go extinct after a few generations due to lack of genetic diversity which can cause many different health problems
true.
This series is already cynical enough as-is >:/
The odds of a life-altering birth defect due to parent/child or brother/sister incest is only about 50% in the real world. As long as the number of children born per female is more than double the replacement rate, it could still work.
Not true! With careful breeding it's definitely possible, Olathe definitely has enough young people to help Buddies children exceed the 50 of the 50/500 rule before Buddies offspring needs to start breeding with each other.
It won't be great and will require careful planning, but it's possible
If she wanted too
She could of collected sperm from dead bodies I know that sounds disgusting
But that's literally the only way if everyone else was dead
lul'd at the voice acting for mutated Buzzo, good job, and good video, as always
Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about that part. We'll see how it's received, I guess. Lol.
Thanks for watching, man! Happy you liked it!
@@SquatchGamingChannel You should leave it in, gives more of a feeling of immersion and stuff
I mean, it's waaayyyy too late to take it out, but I'm happy to hear it wasn't too jarring. Lol.
Squatch Gaming Official would’ve loved if you tried to synch more to the best of the text, but it was a good shocking touch. I did feel like the previous part was a tad dull for me as someone who already played the game, but this little touch gave the video something in addition to a description of the motion of things. Nice touch 👌
I thought it was a step up, and really liked it@@SquatchGamingChannel
I cried so much when Brad was telling her how much he loved her..
Love these games. I feel like a lot of pop media lacks nuance when it comes to heroes or villains. LISA has no heroes or villains, only broken people creating more broken people.
I M A G O O D B O Y
G O OD B O I
I don't think that Brad ever took part in hurting Lisa, but I do think he didn't do as much to go against his father back then. That moment after the bottle drinking scene is likely the moment he ran away from home in the end.
Brad deserved nothing of the hell wrought upon him.
Nobody
No Buddy
hmmm
Wow. 250 IQ.
really makes you think
bEag Vrayne Teme
Well goddamn
You really brought out the characters and i love the few enhancements you did for mutated buzzo.
But its clear that buzzo is the kid with the blonde bowl cut hair that was in brads karate class~
And dusty obviously is the kid whose face got disfigured when brad found him in his dojo. Buzzo was definitely behind this as disty says that the person who jacked his face up said it was for Lisa.
Amirite or amirite.
Yu rite, boi!
Thanks for watching! :)
DanteTheCamel27 also Buddy is the daughter of Brad and Lisa
Just a theory I had
But wouldn’t that mean that Buzzo literally hasn’t aged at all? Brad started up the dojo as an adult (I believe he was in his 30s when the Dusty mutilation happened), yet Lisa died when they were both kids. Bowlcut kid is just bowlcut kid
The Awkward Skeleton Theory is wrong she was revealed to be the daughter of Yado.
I really like the way you narrate these games, it just adds life into it, more emphasis, more enjoyable.
It's nice and amazing to see this content.
After kills buzzo, u can notice how this "Dustin" speaks perfectly
Thus ends a great story....this video needs more views the quality is just amazing
Thanks a lot, man! I'm sure it'll get there. Even if it doesn't, I'm happy that as many people have watched it that have! :)
I think something died inside of me,
the Lisa series in one hell of a trip I almost regret finding about it
Hey, just a suggestion, but I think that you should cover the fan games like Lisa the Pointless and Lisa the Hopeful. They're masterpieces.
Yes and it isn't filled with pedo crap like in the 1st game
@@greggaygayakutami1402 you make it sound like the horrible sexual assault of a young girl is like pandering to pedophiles or something
Your videos explained the game a lot to me thanks I really enjoyed it. A friend introduced me to this game and I did not regret it. Such a good story. The ending with brad with the flowers sticking out of him literally made me cry. So emotional. He did his best for Buddy and he deserved more than his dad life. SUCH A GOOD STORY
14:30 I just don't get why killing your brother purposefully makes Mutant Buddy have the Baby in her arms and obviously more specifically/importantly make the course of events have the Baby come into existence only in timeline where she kills her Brother, I don't see/understand that connection
Isn't it obvious? The Golden Opportunist raped her while she was holding on to Rando.
@@TheGoldenKing20 the baby appears when you drop and kill your brother, not when you hold on giving chance for rape, so only make sense if it appears after holding on to the wire giving chance for rape but again, it appears if you let go
It is because she lost all trust in humanity when rando told the truth. By dropping him, there was still a little bit of belief in rando's words, and the idea that not all of the men are bad. So I'd imagine she attempted to have a kid because that lie held true in her mind.
@@PatRick-mq6ss yes the baby appears in the "leave them" option, that's not the question at hand, I was talking about the "join them" option, if you do join but but hold on to brother there is no baby found, so that's the scenario I am speaking of, why is it that joining them and "not" dropping brother makes there be "no" baby found, however join and do drop brother and the baby comes into existence in that scenario
@@aldoparziale2631Probably found the child when going for Dusty's corpse, the one choice where you hold on you don't, but the other choice where you let go, you do. ( I have no idea if I am making sense or not, I really don't )
Okay everyone Buddy's not really that bad of a character. It's actually beautifully written as it shows how relative each perspectives are. You all get to be pissed because you get to see all the other perspectives not just her. But if you were to put yourself in her shoes you get to understand that was breed this way and was the culmination of the traumas from all the other character spanning from all the games in the series.
Damm these games, are why I love indie games, the music is spot on. The characters are memorable and make you feel for them, like the old rpgs and a few other games on older systems.
I just hope there's more Games like theses that come out.
id like to thank you for getting me completely obsessed with lisa
The feels: the series.
People hate buddy and I think that’s the poiNt. I like it because it feels more real for her to act like this, I don’t think she’s acting on stupidity. More on instinct, Brad’s lessons, the physical pain she was put through before, JOY. All of it, and people really expect her to be ‘likeable’? Her thinking is warped, it’s likely to be that way. All the things she’s been through of course she’s not gonna act like anything other than an asshole.
It just feels more real to me, which is why I like Buddy from a story view. I know many people aren’t gonna like me saying that but that’s just how I feel. If she was ‘completely’ likable it wouldn’t be Lisa. The story just wouldn’t work. Which is why I praise Dingaling.
I agree with you, tots right
It’s funny seeing the parallels between Brad, Lisa, Rando and, Buddy Rando and Buddy are siblings to an ill equipped (sometimes abusive) single parent, Rando is the older sibling and more affected by the other sibling than the parent ( like Brad with Marty) while the younger female sibling is more impacted by the father figure than their older brother
HOLY SHIT THAT VOICE ACTING AT BUZZO'S DEMISE WAS NUTS, YOU DID SO GOOD!
Thanks for the series!
Thanks for watching, man!
Idk if you noticed, but I did that filter thing for the Popping Ps and I've noticed a difference. But then again, I was looking for one. Haha. Thanks for pointing that out!
@@SquatchGamingChannel I noticed too, I'm happy it helped!
Dude your. Commentary is just beautiful while explaining the story you made me feel what the characters felt just wow
dude you’re such a good actor!! I think you should keep doing the emotions for the dialogue
Sorest, flattery will get you nowhere! Lol. But thanks, man! Happy it came across well! :)
Squatch Gaming Official no problem man :D
dang its here! I would like you to summarize Lisa the Pointless or Lisa the hopeful well you could do it if you want. Anyway great video!
Hope you enjoyed! :)
I'm not sure about them just yet. There's some other video I want to make on the Painful/Joyful. We'll see where we are after those are finished.
@@SquatchGamingChannel well its possible because both of them are free, take your time.
yeah hopeful might come a year later if he tries to finish hopeful without a tutorial or without cheats, that game is HARD. haven't played hopeful yet but im pretty sure that spraying your enemies with bullets isnt going to be very hard
@@victorydance6439 Well i got stuck at the drunk(area 2) level at hopeful but i think Pointless is hard because it has really hard enemies (especially The Infinity franchise) and you can run out of supplies because of the previous fight.(Maybe I just suck?)
@@SquatchGamingChannel i would wait for the update before you do pointless
In Painful, flowers are a symbol of beauty and purity. Buzzo is left with one on his grave. Mutated Rando has one in the subconscious of Buddy. And Brad is covered in them.
Maybe Buddy has come to know she isn’t a good person, finding those people she resents before to slowly appear differently than what she would think. She even acknowledges her father’s hatred for himself, and maybe this means deep down she holds a conscience that we don’t see of Buddy.
In the end with the newborn child, I like to think in a head cannon [from my strong dislike of Buddy] that her child(ren) will grow to resent their own mother and holds a belief that goes against Buddy’s. That child would witness a mother of addiction, (most likely) withdrawal of truth their whole life, and genocide. Due to loneliness and feelings of abuse, this child will mirror the same dynamic of Marty and Lisa. And in the end I see Buddy realise she reflects what she sees in her own father in her, a monster. Hence this becomes a cycle of abuse.
I can see why a lot of people dont like this addition to the story.
It adds too much and yet does not answer the right bits.
Well I don’t know why I just spent an hour of my time learning about this depressing story.
Damn you, curiosity. I’ll never forget this and it’ll probably make me sad for years to come.
10/10, would do again
I thought the dev confirmed that brad didn't do anything sexual to lisa
God i hope not
@@aliuniversal4100 i doubt he did
Pedro Munoz unless there was something in the original game, i don’t think there’s much to conclude that he did.
@@averyjenson abandoning her?
Scrumbis edit: i just reread your comment lol. I’m about to fall asleep so i forgot what you said. But yeah, Brad abandoned her.
can we talk about how good this guy's voice acting is
no, its bad. overexaggerated
i really enjoyed this series, thanks for covering this game, its one of my favorites
It really means a lot to me to hear that! Thank you so much for watching it! :)
This game should be renamed to "Daddy issues"
im late as hell but you involving yourself with the dialogue on-screen keeps things interesting for even someone like me who's played the LISA games a bunch of times. It caught me off guard and it was very interesting.
I really liked your presentation. You clearly were touched by the game as we all were. I'm glad somebody recounted the whole thing so I could see the different choices/endings relative to everything going on without having to replay it multiple times.
So, just wondering, I presume Dr. Yado was not lying and was actually Buddy's biological father (although Buzzo says otherwise to completely break the young, impressionable Buddy's ties to a very disgraceful, deranged man). You also find in his joy compound (in Lisa the Painful) the only other woman in the game. Is that Buddy's mother? Also, the woman suspiciously looks like that elongated joy mutant that first confronts Buddy and kills the "Golden Opportunist" later. Did she become that mutant? Did Brad incorrectly assume she was dead when she was really just in a deep Joy coma?
Thanks for watching, Jonathan! I'm happy to hear you enjoyed so much! :)
It's heavily implied (but not confirmed, I don't think) that the woman in the Joy Lab was Yado's "Wife" and therefore Buddy's mother. I had the same thoughts myself, but that woman is not Sweetheart. Dingaling (the developer) confirmed as much himself.
Hmm... If Lisa was that psychopathically horrible by herself even without being an Abuse victim, then, What of Lisa's and Brad's mother? Is she the one who Lisa took many features from? Since the game clearly shows that Lisa would have been a psycho even without the influence of Marty, since Abuse victims aren't so open to doing such horrible things to other beings (Such in the case of Buzzo, and the captured and tortured animal) which also had a domino effect of creating both the strongest and most hurt people in the Olathe waste land (Them being Brad, Buzzo, Dusty and of course Buddy)
1.Brad:Well for Obvious reasons, for one, she was disappointed in him for not being there for her when Marty did his shtick... And for the second thing, him possibly partaking in doing he same thing as his father while being in a drunken state because of Marty
2.Buzzo:Also obvious, with the way she manipulated him by being in the situation that she was in and making him both mentally and literally get wrapped around her fingers... From the point where she made him mutilate the animal, and then her and then even poor Dusty after her commiting suicide because her mutilation didn't make Marty leave her alone.. Which drove him to internalized insanity which lead to him working with Yado and creating the joy pill that he would use to torture Brad with. But would never forget the mental torture and manipulation he had to go through even after making Brad a representation of his Id/Joy mutant form that he kept as a memory of "Victory" for Lisa
3.Dusty:He was more of a side effect/aftermath of Buzzo's insanity (because of Lisa) which lead to his face to be ripped apart by Buzzo because he was viewed as Brad's son, but he seemed to be the least affected by the tragedy and somehow got over it by picking up the persona of Rando and making himself look menacing and unbreakable
4.Buddy:She is literally the byproduct of Yattos madness, Marty's horribleness, Lisa's psychopathy, and Brad's drug abuse. And she managed to get mingled into the Armstrong's by non other than Buzzo, Lisa's personal puppet himself, who begged Yatto to give Buddy to Brad, who teached her survival skills against other humans, but made her feel caged and forced because of his drunken stupper (He had because of Lisa and Marty) and his joy abuse, which made her to have a need of a supremacy complex for her to never feel caged ever again, neither by Brad, Brad's Son Dusty, or her own Father Yado...
Or TL:DR You can either blame most of the things happening because of Lisa herself, or because of Marty (and probably Brad) abusing her
Even through addiction (a battle I’m familiar with), people still have a choice, there is always a choice.
Who's the father of the baby though? I've been dying to know, can't bolo as its confirmed to not be him
Who know, man? Maybe Dale, the dude that tried to molest Buddy while she was tied up, or maybe someone we didn't even meet in the game! I've even heard some people speculate that it's Dusty or Brad. I think it's open to interpretation!
The Hero of Chaos I think it’s Sticky, since he claimed to “educate” her on how important she is to humanity, in Painful. I think that was his subtle way of saying that he impregnated her.
Could it have been Rando?
What’s more confusing is mutant buddy has the kid only if she drops rando.
Hope it's Brad solely because of this video: ua-cam.com/video/MEYplUUvaKg/v-deo.html
I don't see how that baby can be hope for humanity. Like pretty much everyone is dead, and even if it's a girl we're in the same boat as the start of the painful...
Waited for all three parts to be out, before i went on watching it, so glad i did. Exceptional narrative as always.
Awesome to hear you enjoyed them so much! Thanks for your input on my other comment as well! I really appreciate it! Thanks for watching!
@@SquatchGamingChannel It's me who's thanking ^^
Thanks for the series, you helped me understand a game i always have wanted to try out but never got the chance to do so. I love every minute of it even tho the voice acting was kinda over the top for this particular one, i didn't quite like it, but i can tell you had a lot of fun with it and that's what matters most. Cheers from france, buddy
France? That's awesome! Thanks for watching, man! Happy to hear you enjoyed! Sorry if the voice acting was distracting, I was trying out some new stuff!
I just wish the main question was answered. Why were all of the women killed?
Who knows, man? It's one of life's greatest mysteries, I suppose!
My guess is it could have been part of Yado’s plan and he would used his wife as a catalyst for the war til Nancy/Buddy showed up
Maybe all the women churned into monsters.
I think Olathe just lost the women to chance but there's still women in the other parts of the world.
@@drenchedinsyrupp6059 well the scientists associate that makes you do terrible things like chop off your arm. Did say something about other women in the world after buddy escaped him.
Great. Your voice over stuck in my head and everytime Buzzo speak in my game, I hear yours. Damn it.
I don't think it was implied that Brad was complicit in what happened to Lisa. If he were an independent adult, that would be different. I especially didn't see it implied that he had sex with Lisa, though that is the kind of twisted story this game's creator would come up with.
Man you're killing it on these videos! Good job man can't wait to see more
Words can't really describe how awesome it is for me to hear you say that. The only ones that come close are "Thank you!"
There's plenty more to come!
@@SquatchGamingChannel can't wait man!
I can hear you ( I think ) almost crying
The implication that Bradley also abused his sister really really hurts my heart
I don't think he did dude
He ran away. Also in the first game is implied that it was the father who was the one who raped her
Ugh nvm just replayed that part... Fuck me dead
@@josuemontes8389 Its more explicit on one of the endings
"Lets go see your sister"
@@ivotcomer3183 thats one way to put it, thanks
Thanks for the Early Christmas Present 🎁
Thanks for watching! I hope you enjoyed! :)
Holy shit my guy that voice acting was amazing!
You think so? Thanks, man! I was just trying my best! Happy to hear it came across well!
Thanks for watching!
Squatch Gaming Official You make some really awesome content and I’ve been a fan since the Hotline Miami videos. One thing you could have done with the video was do the voice acting for the Buzzo mutant battle, it seemed kinda choppy jumping from the voice acted bit to the narration, but it was still a great vid. Keep up the good work!
I originally had it that way, but found that his dialogue was distracting and actually took away from my narration, so I excluded it. It just didn't work. Lol.
This has been a heart wrenching but enjoyable trip. I truly appreciate your summary. Thank you. Great emotion you put into the acting too.
Now that I think about it, I do not believe that Buddy has hit puberty yet in this entire series. She's like 11-ish.
Honestly at times I wonder, given the fact that it only we nothing about the outside and only has the view the people in Olathe, is it only that place affected?
Bruh he got into so much character in the brad hallucination I love it
At around 5:00 I actually started tearing up. The feels..
Thanks man. I needed this after finding out that the Super Best Friends are over. Great video as always.
Man, sucks to hear that. Idk how much this will help though! Still a sad story! Lol. Thanks for watching though!
LOVED ALL THREE, MORE PLEASE!!!
Lol. Happy to hear, Shadow. There won't be summaries, but several characters in Lisa will be getting their own videos just like the Hotline Miami characters got!
I've been waiting for this, and boy am I happy it came
Nothing helps me destress before exams like a good old story summary
I think you spelled "Distress" wrong there, man! Lol. I hope you enjoy, man! Not sure it can live up to the others though! :)
Squatch Gaming Official Ah, right
Forgive my poor english, it was like 5 AM when I decided to comment
I really enjoyed this one!
You didn't spell anything wrong! I was making a joke. Lol. Distress as in "extreme anxiety", which is what I'm sure you're feeling as exams approach. It sounds drastically similar to "De-stress" which you were using correctly. Lol.
Don’t we all hate how Buddy turned out in Lisa the joyful?
you know a story's good when a guy trying to explain it is crying
Very nice voice acting during the Buzzo transformation bit!
Thank you very much! I was pretty nervous about that part. Not sure of how it was going to be taken. Lol.
Thanks for watching!
Having watched the story to these games, which people have hailed as some incredible triumph, I must confess that I'm left bewildered and wondering why. It's not that it's too disturbing, bizarre, cruel, or futile, but for me it's how exaggerated it all is. Essentially, within just this small area, hundreds of peoples' lives are ruined and ended because of events surrounding seven people; Marty, Brad, Lisa, Buzzo, Dusty, Yado, and Buddy. If Yado is behind the apocalypse, that would make the reach truly ridiculous. Honestly, the game would have had far more punch if the scale was pulled back dramatically, as it'd be more believable and relatable. "Gee, the world has ended, and here I am, a washed-up loser trying to raise an adoptive child, but because of my own traumas I'm doing a bad job of it and harming them too. Crap, this drug I'm taking is turning me into a disfigured monster, but only after warping my psyche so much that it exacerbates that abuse ironically as I'm driven to protect them." The nature of the drug is so specific, including its timing (he took it for years after all) that it reeks of plot contrivance, especially since there's an antidote! Wouldn't holding that over everyone else's head, demanding compliance and property in exchange for this panacea be a much better plan than ruling over mindless, shapeless globs of flesh? I get that he's crazy, but this is just stupid. I'd say a similar problem arises with how Buzzo would have agreed to help him along with this, with nothing to gain from it, instead of murdering someone who harms his own wife and daughter (considering how much he despises Brad, this is very confusing). Plus, it's never explained how this apocalypse took place such that it destroyed all women without killing all men, while also setting all of society back significantly. These huge plot points warrant some explanation.
Regardless, I think the game would have worked better if Yado had distributed his pills amongst the community he lived in, using them as a scale test site in real-world conditions, perhaps pulling some strings here and there to manipulate people, stress them out, see different tolerance levels, watch people decay into monsters, let them run amok before the police would stop them, and record the results with apathetic but scientific glee. With everything under his control and going according to his plans he'd go on a power trip, thinking he could unrealistically take this to larger and larger scales, before it'd spiral out of his control and turn against him. Since the story never gives any explanation for it, I fail to see how he'd control any of these demented creatures after they mutated, with how unpredictable and violent they become, seemingly driven by specific desires and triggers. I could see him orchestrating a move to turn several people into mutants at once, considering the possibilities on a national level, before he's swept up in a bloodbath. That would have been a very horrific, brutal, yet grimly satisfying scene. After all, these innocent and suffering people have lost all humanity, theoretically irreversibly, but even without knowing what they're doing they're getting vengeance on the mad puppeteer who made them that way. A much better demise than what we got here. With this as part of the background to what took place with the other important characters, their events and the consequences of them would still be pretty large (small town scale), but to a much less unreasonable level. Also, more of the blame would fall to Yado, whereas here the women-crazy and violent men are more culpable, though oddly most of it falls onto Marty and Lisa. The choices of the abuser and his victim have so unwieldy an impact it's hard to take seriously, which somewhat makes light of what took place. Abusing a child and the natural results that spawn from such depravity makes for an uncomfortable, upsetting feeling. When it leads to the fall of civilization as we know it? It seems pretty dumb, and that's what I take from these games. It's overblown, contrived, and seems to be designed specifically to be manipulative by pumping it full of as much cruelty and tragedy as possible.
I think part of the problems is that this is actually just a fan game made canon, which brings a huge number of issues to the main story. It doesn't help that this game does feel kind of like an anime in how it deals with things.
The main game didn't explain the world building that much but I thought that it was just because it wasn't focused on those things. It was more about the story about Brad trying to find Buddy and bring her home with the characters and comedy juxtaposition with all the fucked up things in this world being more of the focus (Although mostly the comedy). If I were to explain it would be sort of like how in some zombie media it doesn't explain everything about what caused the zombie apocalypse because it's more about the characters than the virus.
Yado uses his trumpet to control the mutants
Jesus christ, so the twist was that EVERYONE was a victim of someone else. Buddy was like this because of what Brad did, but he only did what he did because of Buzz and Lisa… and Buzz *also* only did what he did cuz of Lisa… and *Lisa* only did what she did because… she was abused.
10:05 characters in bad shows becoming shitty 1-dimensional bad guy be like:
**Im A Good Boy**
All characters deserved better. Except for Marty, he deserved worse
I'd rather not say no one did anything wrong.
Everyone did something bad in this game. Everyone.
There's just those people who had good intentions, that were still good people despite their bad deeds.
It was Yado who was *truly* evil.
Thanks for the series!
i just can't force myself into playing this game
but the story is fascinating
Buzzo telling Buddy that Brad was her father always get to me makes me cry
Lovely story-telling
10:08 THE FUCKING VOICE ACTING 😂😂😂😂
Great job. You definitely did this masterful series justice
Now to what I’ve been longing for the analysis videos!
Lol. Who would you like to see first, man?
Squatch Gaming Official your pick don’t want to ruin your flow
I'll be honest, I wasn't thinking of doing a character first. Lol. I was gonna do a video for Joy, then follow it up with a Dr. Yado video.
Squatch Gaming Official well then how about terry surely you’ve been to terry land?
Of course! Makes his story very depressing. Lol. I can do Terry first if you'd like!
Bro was too engrossed in the narration, i respect it
Great stuff. I'm kinda sad to see that you've never covered Lisa the Pointless.
How come Marty didn't carry any of the blame? He was a parent who raped his own daughter... Yet Buzzo wants to blame Brad????
this voice acting is nuts man good job
If everyone's dead how did Buddy have a kid?
you REALLY don't want to know the answer...
The biggest question! Maybe she met someone from another land? Lol.
Joyful mutant brad
Could’ve been pregnant the whole time by whoever.
Or could have controlled mutant Brad to do it
Rando, i'm 98% sure it's him.
Remember that Rando himself staged the entire kidnapping part, he's the one constantly watching over buddy as she sleeps and he wants her to save humanity but yet gets upset as soon as someone tries to 'get with' buddy.
I like the trust, hold on and leave combination from decisions as they represent her humanity.
Buzzo could be a nickname for buzz saw or buzz cut. Buzzo knew and liked Lisa (meaning he should be the same age as Rando, and Lisa). I think it's him pre-nickname sawing the paw off the cat in preparation to do that to Lisa. Lisa then takes her life before he can work up the courage. Dustin/Rando was the test subject for him. After Lisa is gone, he works with Yado (remember that someone says "My name is Buzzo." to Yado in that scene). He finds Yado's plans to be crazy (take over the world with an addictive drug that turns people into single minded lunatics?)...yeah.
The White Flash happens. Yado's plans go into overdrive. Buzzo knows about Joy, but in a world where fighting for your life is routine, it probably helps to take Joy (it heals your body and blanks out PTSD). He takes it, and becomes single minded enough to torment Brad over his "failure" to help Lisa. Explains why he keeps warning Buddy not to take Joy (at the end of it) and why he deliberately overdosed Brad during that confrontation.
7:06 stop it you are gonna make me cry dude
just, speechless. good on those creators, i really do feel pain filled after this series. but, its kind of hopeful in the way it ends, maybe humanity really does get a second chance in the end. i hope so.
after all of the story summaries in this one we learn how everybody wasn't as bad as they look, they just had their minds darkened by something.
the part where Brad tells Buddy how much he loved her almos brought me to tears if I can be honest.
this was a great series, I will never forget it :)
also I really liked the part where you voiced Rando when he was mutating; it gives the character more personality (at least for me)
well... see ya'
It's the perfect storm of messed up conditions, character flaws, and tragic mistakes that creates the world of Lisa. Lol.
Yeah, that part is freaking crazy for me. If, right now, I was a father to a daughter... I don't think I could get through it without crying... Lol.
Thanks, man, but that's Buzzo! Not Rando! Shows how much you've learned if you don't even know the character's names! Lol
Thanks for watching, man!
@@SquatchGamingChannel XD me brain ain't working today