Thank you!!!!! You've helped me make my decision. This was a very productive video. I think the 2 way sounds more fuller and solid where tmr 3 way gives you crisp clean highs and mids but now bottom. The 2 way has both clean highs and mids ALONG with the lows.
Excellent comparison and quite informative. Overall, i think the quality is better on the 2-way, however i do really enjoy the directional aspect in the separation of the highs with the tweeter positioning on the 3-way. Might end up going the 3-way route with added power. Thank you so much, superb job!
I have the 3-ways in my Jeep, and I like them. They have nice clear sound at low power (I'm only giving them 50 watts each at 4 ohms). Good for a budget system!
Thanks for doing this! I got the 3way set and installing them soon. I disagree with you. The 3way has a fuller sound that covers all 3 phases of sound. Thanks again. Any suggestions for a sub that would go in a 2018 regular cab f150 xl ? Not a lot of room to work with but I’d like some heavy bass
Thanks for posting the 3 way to me is too harsh. I think that 2 -way is nice. The 3 way needs some toning down of the mid/high. It would cause ear fatigue for me.
I didn’t hear the 2way speaker tweeter being brighter, I heard the 3way as the loudest. That said, the 2way does have the best balance of overall sound between bass and mids and highs. But that is facing straight at it with it firing right at you. What about its off axis response? Most of these speakers will be in doors or the rear deck not firing right at the listener. In that case it could help to have one with brighter mid sound to improve what would otherwise be lost. As an example of this, listen to this video facing your phone. To me the 2way sounds better most of the time. But if I turn my phone 90° sideways I can hear a difference. The 2way got quieter, and I could tell when the 3way kicked back in that it was adding back what I had previously been hearing when facing the screen. My final opinion on these is neither one sounded good enough for me. The 2way, while being the best balanced, I thought its tweeter was too muted. Not enough highs. But the 3way was overly bright. I’d want something in between how these sound.
I put a set of these 3 way in my front doors and the two ways in my back doors in a dodge journey and the sound is great one set of 3 ways is enough if you are putting these in an SUV
How does the crossover on the three way work? Does it really split the signal into three ways, and how does the power from an amp channel reach that? I am having doubts about three way, coaxials are so simple and proven.
On this speaker, full range signal is fed into the woofer, and as the frequency rises, woofer performance rolls off until it ceases to respond. It gets all the lows and mids, and just breaks up on the highs. Full range signal is also fed to the tweeters, and a filter capacitor blocks the lows below a certain frequency. The highs are passed through. I do not know if each tweeter (or tweeter/mid) has its own capacitor to filter lower signals out at different levels, or if there is just one capacitor for both tweets. But that’s how it works. It is not splitting the signal per driver, just filtering lows out of the tweeters only. This is how all coaxials work. 2way, 3way, 4way, 5way, and others. Better coaxials will also have an inductor on the woofer to filter out the highs instead of rolling them off. There are also speakers out there being called triaxials and multiaxials. Unless they have a capacitor and/or inductor for each driver contained within to truly divide the frequencies that each plays, then they are just coaxials.
@@yakketyyak954 hey thanks for that response after 4 years, can you offer any info on power? If the amp, say, puts out 100W into the channel, how is that power split to the three speakers in the 3 way? What controls that really? Is it just as simple as when you filter frequencies you are only getting the percentage of power that usually go there, thereby automatically reducing power to the tweeter by a large amount but much less to the woofer? I'm asking as getting a coaxial speaker for example, or even a component, how exactly do you know how much power from the amp channel will go to one vs. the other?
@@freethinker4liberty it would involve a long, complicated formula to show how much power the woofer gets and how much the tweeter gets. When you send 100 watts to the speaker, what you are doing is amplifying all the frequencies in the music to the 100 watt range. Highs, lows, and mids. Frequency affects impedance (resistance to current flow). Each driver on the coaxial will get a 100 watts of power in the frequency range they are designed to play in. As the frequencies on the woofer begin to rise, the woofer impedance rises with it until those higher frequencies are cut off due to too much resistance. The woofer sees 100 watts on the lower frequencies. The tweeters are the opposite, as frequencies rise their impedance drops and they get 100 watts in the higher frequency ranges. Lower frequencies are cut off from the tweeter due to impedance rise and therefore a drop in power at those lower frequencies. But my comprehension of it is that the whole speaker gets 100 watts on each part. Woofer, mid, and tweeters, only it is at those specific frequencies of each driver.
@@freethinker4liberty I’ve tried three times to respond. Something is wrong with UA-cam, it doesn’t post my replies. When you send 100 W to a three-way speaker, each portion of the speaker gets 100 W but it receives it across the frequency range it is designed to play in. It does not divide 100 W by sending some to the woofer and some to the tweeter. It is 100 W on the woofer and 100 W on the tweeter also. When you filter frequencies out, what you are really doing is raising the impedance at that frequency so high that the speaker just does not respond to it. So in other words the woofer gets 100 W across the entire frequency band, but if it has a filter then the high frequencies are cut out by raising the impedance. Often, woofers are just designed to roll off instead of being filtered. They just stop responding when they reach the range they can no longer respond at. But the same thing would blow tweeters, so they get a filter capacitor to raise the impedance on the lower frequencies and allow higher frequencies to pass. I hope you are able to get this response.
@@yakketyyak954 That's exactly what I was looking for, thank you. Basically wanted to make sure if I get 100W components, this means that they can handle a 100W amp (on that channel), and will ensure each component is getting what it is designed to get, while the amp just outputs the whole 100W to the speaker. I know some people get a separate amp for each component, I never understood that but when reading about it, started to wonder if that is really better due to speaker life, did not want to underpower the woofer and overpower the tweeter.
Cars have 2ways in doors now since they add tweeters and dash speakers they use 6x9 for bass so y not do that actually don’t want people thinking the bass quality will be the same because of the music he plays
If you have 2 way setting amplifier,prefer the two way speakers(by the same original),otherwise you risk having a sound too acute precisely. I just had a bad experience, with original JBL one way 6x9 replaced by more powerful Kenwood 6x9 but 3 ways, and it is not only a little too sharp (bearable), but it is especially much less loud than the original, given that the amp is set to low frequencies, the part dedicated to the tweeter and midrange are not even used by the amp ... Add to that that you already have on a kit exploded at the back, 2 tweeter too many, not only do you end up with too much treble, but less powerful speakers, think before investing! You lose the powerfull dedicated to tweeter and médium part of your hp,not provided by the original amp using 1 or 2 way. Exemple if you change the JBL 50w rms 2 way by the 80w 3 way,you having in definitive bad sound and 40w because only bass are managed by the original car amplifier and your hp have 30w+ by his tweeter and médium.
i have the 2 r169x3 6.5s and 2 6x9s do you guys recommend to connect them to an 400 watt amplifier or just leave them connecter to my aftermarket head unit
microphone is too good we do not need to hear every swallow and gulp sir but thnx for the input and the lack of bass heavy music from the demonstration
I was hearing the right one more than the left, it sounds louder to me and more clear
I just bought the 3 way R169X3 6x9 from Amazon and getting them delivered today, glad I bought those. hope they sound as good
after 3 hours to install in the rears, work great for rear speakers
@@jorgenvonstrangle000 Do you still like them?
Arlind Sadikaj so far so good still
@@Jack-oi3uq I’m got an amp for mine
I have the 3ways in my BOAT..6 of them...STILL GOING STRONG 💪
3-Way definitely has a cleaner sound in my opinion
depends on what your going for.
2-way has a better balance.
I already have tweeters for highs.😎
Thank you!!!!! You've helped me make my decision. This was a very productive video. I think the 2 way sounds more fuller and solid where tmr 3 way gives you crisp clean highs and mids but now bottom. The 2 way has both clean highs and mids ALONG with the lows.
this is literally the EXACT video i wanted
Excellent comparison and quite informative. Overall, i think the quality is better on the 2-way, however i do really enjoy the directional aspect in the separation of the highs with the tweeter positioning on the 3-way. Might end up going the 3-way route with added power. Thank you so much, superb job!
I have the 3-ways in my Jeep, and I like them. They have nice clear sound at low power (I'm only giving them 50 watts each at 4 ohms). Good for a budget system!
Those 3 way have to have an amp so you can really hear the 3 way sound
Thanks for doing this! I got the 3way set and installing them soon. I disagree with you. The 3way has a fuller sound that covers all 3 phases of sound.
Thanks again. Any suggestions for a sub that would go in a 2018 regular cab f150 xl ? Not a lot of room to work with but I’d like some heavy bass
Did you install the 3-ways yet, and if so, what do you think?
Thanks for posting the 3 way to me is too harsh. I think that 2 -way is nice. The 3 way needs some toning down of the mid/high. It would cause ear fatigue for me.
I didn’t hear the 2way speaker tweeter being brighter, I heard the 3way as the loudest.
That said, the 2way does have the best balance of overall sound between bass and mids and highs. But that is facing straight at it with it firing right at you. What about its off axis response? Most of these speakers will be in doors or the rear deck not firing right at the listener. In that case it could help to have one with brighter mid sound to improve what would otherwise be lost. As an example of this, listen to this video facing your phone. To me the 2way sounds better most of the time. But if I turn my phone 90° sideways I can hear a difference. The 2way got quieter, and I could tell when the 3way kicked back in that it was adding back what I had previously been hearing when facing the screen.
My final opinion on these is neither one sounded good enough for me. The 2way, while being the best balanced, I thought its tweeter was too muted. Not enough highs. But the 3way was overly bright. I’d want something in between how these sound.
If have a sub connected and you need highs and mids get the three way to compensate.
I bought the 3 ways my jeep with Harman kardon, im returning back
3-Way, it is enhancing the sound, but 2-way is not a bad at all....
My vote is for the two way speaker. However, you would be hard pressed to tell the difference depending on music of choice rolling down the road.
I put a set of these 3 way in my front doors and the two ways in my back doors in a dodge journey and the sound is great one set of 3 ways is enough if you are putting these in an SUV
i just bought the same setup for my mazda 3 hatchback i’m excited
X3 way = Freshness of music
Do you know if these fit 4th gen rams. The front doors are tight
its not that the tweeter is louder, its just the 2 way sound vs the 3 way. 3 way has mids so you have some treble wash out but not much
How much power u had to them?
How does the crossover on the three way work? Does it really split the signal into three ways, and how does the power from an amp channel reach that? I am having doubts about three way, coaxials are so simple and proven.
On this speaker, full range signal is fed into the woofer, and as the frequency rises, woofer performance rolls off until it ceases to respond. It gets all the lows and mids, and just breaks up on the highs.
Full range signal is also fed to the tweeters, and a filter capacitor blocks the lows below a certain frequency. The highs are passed through. I do not know if each tweeter (or tweeter/mid) has its own capacitor to filter lower signals out at different levels, or if there is just one capacitor for both tweets. But that’s how it works. It is not splitting the signal per driver, just filtering lows out of the tweeters only.
This is how all coaxials work. 2way, 3way, 4way, 5way, and others. Better coaxials will also have an inductor on the woofer to filter out the highs instead of rolling them off. There are also speakers out there being called triaxials and multiaxials. Unless they have a capacitor and/or inductor for each driver contained within to truly divide the frequencies that each plays, then they are just coaxials.
@@yakketyyak954 hey thanks for that response after 4 years, can you offer any info on power? If the amp, say, puts out 100W into the channel, how is that power split to the three speakers in the 3 way? What controls that really? Is it just as simple as when you filter frequencies you are only getting the percentage of power that usually go there, thereby automatically reducing power to the tweeter by a large amount but much less to the woofer?
I'm asking as getting a coaxial speaker for example, or even a component, how exactly do you know how much power from the amp channel will go to one vs. the other?
@@freethinker4liberty it would involve a long, complicated formula to show how much power the woofer gets and how much the tweeter gets. When you send 100 watts to the speaker, what you are doing is amplifying all the frequencies in the music to the 100 watt range. Highs, lows, and mids. Frequency affects impedance (resistance to current flow). Each driver on the coaxial will get a 100 watts of power in the frequency range they are designed to play in. As the frequencies on the woofer begin to rise, the woofer impedance rises with it until those higher frequencies are cut off due to too much resistance. The woofer sees 100 watts on the lower frequencies. The tweeters are the opposite, as frequencies rise their impedance drops and they get 100 watts in the higher frequency ranges. Lower frequencies are cut off from the tweeter due to impedance rise and therefore a drop in power at those lower frequencies. But my comprehension of it is that the whole speaker gets 100 watts on each part. Woofer, mid, and tweeters, only it is at those specific frequencies of each driver.
@@freethinker4liberty I’ve tried three times to respond. Something is wrong with UA-cam, it doesn’t post my replies. When you send 100 W to a three-way speaker, each portion of the speaker gets 100 W but it receives it across the frequency range it is designed to play in. It does not divide 100 W by sending some to the woofer and some to the tweeter. It is 100 W on the woofer and 100 W on the tweeter also. When you filter frequencies out, what you are really doing is raising the impedance at that frequency so high that the speaker just does not respond to it. So in other words the woofer gets 100 W across the entire frequency band, but if it has a filter then the high frequencies are cut out by raising the impedance. Often, woofers are just designed to roll off instead of being filtered. They just stop responding when they reach the range they can no longer respond at. But the same thing would blow tweeters, so they get a filter capacitor to raise the impedance on the lower frequencies and allow higher frequencies to pass. I hope you are able to get this response.
@@yakketyyak954 That's exactly what I was looking for, thank you. Basically wanted to make sure if I get 100W components, this means that they can handle a 100W amp (on that channel), and will ensure each component is getting what it is designed to get, while the amp just outputs the whole 100W to the speaker. I know some people get a separate amp for each component, I never understood that but when reading about it, started to wonder if that is really better due to speaker life, did not want to underpower the woofer and overpower the tweeter.
rockford fosgate p169x3 prime, bass is good or bad bro?
Cars have 2ways in doors now since they add tweeters and dash speakers they use 6x9 for bass so y not do that actually don’t want people thinking the bass quality will be the same because of the music he plays
Very informative sir thank you ✌
Rockford Fosgate P1692 Punch 6"x9" 2-Way vs Rockford Fosgate R169X2 Prime 6"x9" 2-Way your thoughts ?
Punch has more bass
2 way definitely won this match.
3way sounds better. Night and day difference. Only way I’d get the 2way is if I already have stand alone tweeters
I like the 2-way better imo
Agree the midrange is cleaner on the coax
If you have 2 way setting amplifier,prefer the two way speakers(by the same original),otherwise you risk having a sound too acute precisely. I just had a bad experience, with original JBL one way 6x9 replaced by more powerful Kenwood 6x9 but 3 ways, and it is not only a little too sharp (bearable), but it is especially much less loud than the original, given that the amp is set to low frequencies, the part dedicated to the tweeter and midrange are not even used by the amp ...
Add to that that you already have on a kit exploded at the back, 2 tweeter too many, not only do you end up with too much treble, but less powerful speakers, think before investing!
You lose the powerfull dedicated to tweeter and médium part of your hp,not provided by the original amp using 1 or 2 way. Exemple if you change the JBL 50w rms 2 way by the 80w 3 way,you having in definitive bad sound and 40w because only bass are managed by the original car amplifier and your hp have 30w+ by his tweeter and médium.
me gusto tu metodo de comparar ahora ROCKFORD VS JBL pero parlantes de 700 watt
Thanks for the review.🤙 Debating which pair should I get.
The 2way just has a wider frequency range than the 3way
i have the 2 r169x3 6.5s and 2 6x9s do you guys recommend to connect them to an 400 watt amplifier or just leave them connecter to my aftermarket head unit
3 way super clean
Thanks for the vieos
3way has better tweet response
Sometimes less is more
The one on the right
These 2 sound very close
I was like damn these are so close!! and then i realized they were both fosgate! LOLZ! at least i know im not just thinking something !
Muy bien vídeo jbl quiero ver
Ok I will do later
Review the Rockford fosgate p 1572 speakers for us,as we are curious.
Bro get some better MUSIC!!!!!
Coppyright
X3 won
2 way of course
The one on the left
3 way sounds better to me
microphone is too good we do not need to hear every swallow and gulp sir but thnx for the input and the lack of bass heavy music from the demonstration
Yo what's up with that music no one plays music like that in their car so this comparison is bull get some real everyday music
Pioneer 5way
2 way
I like the bullshit twitter 😁👍
3way
I Can't even call It
EL PROBLEMA ES LA MÚSICA ESTA DE LA FREGADA !!
both of them sounds horrible