kartel daun anthurium 1 year update + new plants unboxing! 📦🌿

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  • @catherinelessard3870
    @catherinelessard3870 6 місяців тому +5

    🌱Anthurium Bigfoot x Velvet Mask Selected
    🌱Anthurium BFG Selected
    🌱Anthurium Dark Phoenix x Goliath Selected
    🌱Anthurium Queen Crystal x HU Selected
    🌱Anthurium King Crystal x Blue Pap Selected
    🌱BFG Selected

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  6 місяців тому

      Thank you!!! 💚

  • @HarliG
    @HarliG 7 місяців тому +166

    STOP IT RIGHT NOW FERN 😡you’re making me obsessed with anthurium & I don’t have the space or time for any more plants 😂

    • @HarliG
      @HarliG 7 місяців тому +22

      Jk! Thanks for sharing so I can live vicariously through you 😁✨

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +20

      I feel youuuu 😂😂😂 I should NOT be getting more 😅

    • @camillerutledge3987
      @camillerutledge3987 7 місяців тому +4

      Same girl same🫣!! I wanted so many at the plantcon (in Houston, TX) yesterday. Not brave enough yet 😬😬😬 Living through you Fren!! 💚

    • @lamnium
      @lamnium 7 місяців тому +3

      Wow... my favourite planty youtubers all at once!!💚

    • @GB-vw6kr
      @GB-vw6kr 7 місяців тому

      I ended up purging a bunch of other plants, to make room for more anthurium... I'm happy I did, they're SO beautiful.

  • @fireflyintheroom
    @fireflyintheroom 7 місяців тому +31

    My gosh... somebody call the ambulance... It was all fun and games while unboxing section... But the moment you started to show updates.... Im not welllll..... sheeeeeesh.... THEY ARE STUNNING!

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Hahahaha Svetlana 😆😆🌿🚑

  • @dora9368
    @dora9368 7 місяців тому +5

    The King of Spades is a beauty 😍 but they all look amazing and are doing good. Tfs their progress, It's fun to see the growth of a year❤

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Thank you so much 😊

  • @rebeccahenderson7761
    @rebeccahenderson7761 7 місяців тому +9

    That King of Spades is amazing!!

  • @samcresp5440
    @samcresp5440 7 місяців тому +5

    I bought my first real anthurium in my last plant mail (forgetti, we won’t talk about my vittarofolium), and I might be obsessed. I needed a fern video today! Got my croissant and banana bread, my cats yelling at me, and finally on top of my plants after a bad depression stint that nearly wiped my collection.

  • @ssssundae
    @ssssundae 7 місяців тому +4

    It's a huge source of frustration to me that they don't label their plants honestly :/ gorgeous plants though and you've grown yours over the past year so well!

  • @lindacornett8944
    @lindacornett8944 7 місяців тому +4

    Love watching you. I’m lots older than you but enjoy your videos so much. Learn so much. You’ve come a long ways Gal! Keep it up.

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +3

      Thank you so much Linda! Really appreciate you watching :)

  • @christypatterson4950
    @christypatterson4950 7 місяців тому +1

    I just wanted to comment and say how grateful I am for your videos. My husband and I recently got the news that he'll have to go in for another round of chemo and surgeries and - I don't know. Seeing your videos where everything's so calm and beautiful just always makes me feel better. It reminds me to keep getting up and going and checking on my plants and I just wanted to thank you for that.

  • @Yoliplanting
    @Yoliplanting 7 місяців тому +2

    Kartel is amazing. I absolutely love their anthurium hybrids. I order frequently from them and not one has tanked. Plants are gorgeous and healthy can’t wait to see how these new ones grow for you💚🌸

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +1

      They really are great quality plants! Thanks so much :)

  • @loritabesha
    @loritabesha 7 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful anthuriums! I love Kartel. I received my first shipment last week, and I was so impressed with the quality of the plants, especially considering that they traveled 13,000 km from Jakarta to Calgary, lol. Interestingly, I've received plants shipped from Canada that looked quite beat up despite the "short" transit. Just sharing my experience. Don't be afraid of ordering, just be afraid of going broke because you'll want to buy everything!

  • @theresaevans1642
    @theresaevans1642 7 місяців тому +2

    I am also in my anthurium era. I can’t stopppppppppp

    • @Itsmeyoualreadykno
      @Itsmeyoualreadykno 7 місяців тому

      Oh man me too 😂 i went from zero to like a million in a very short time.

  • @kaygryffin3059
    @kaygryffin3059 7 місяців тому +1

    I love your collection, not just your anthuriums but as a whole; it always inspires me to look for the more unusual or plants I wouldn’t have normally thought of - thanks to you I bought my first begonia a few days ago! My personal favorite is the superbum, it’s a slow grower but their leaves can get so tallll!

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Thank you so much! Very exciting that you’re dipping your toes into begonia - enjoy :)

  • @keynchris7059
    @keynchris7059 7 місяців тому +2

    They really need to send a shipment list with what everything is. That seems like such an oversight. They are absolutely stunning though

    • @catherinelessard3870
      @catherinelessard3870 6 місяців тому

      They do this to match the phyto certificate in case there’s an inspection

  • @OMM-kl1zu
    @OMM-kl1zu 7 місяців тому +4

    I really love these heart shaped Anthuriums. You have an amazing collection!!!! May your latest unboxing do well. Love the early beginnings footage. Amazing growth eleven months later. Jaw dropping!!!! My favourite is the Anthurium - King of Spades. Anthuriums give such tropical vibes. 💚💚💚

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +3

      Thank you!! I am so happy with them :)

  • @Marlur
    @Marlur 7 місяців тому

    Wow, can’t believe how big they all got!! But yay new babies, so exciting!

  • @lisaanglim9588
    @lisaanglim9588 7 місяців тому

    The bold silver veining on the one is stunning. And so is the doriaky. I love the leaf shape. And the venation. Visible venation, big or small just gets me.

  • @lindaedwards4632
    @lindaedwards4632 7 місяців тому +4

    Wow Fern, I didn’t realize you had so many anthuriums 😀

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +1

      They have been hiding out in my cabinet haha :)

  • @lisaanglim9588
    @lisaanglim9588 7 місяців тому

    Seeing the old videos looking at your much shorter hair is like a time capsule. My sister and I take pictures when she and I get together, and my google photos put a real of the two of us together. It could be labeled the many hairstyles of Lisa. From long and blonde to fuchsia, to shorter to wave and gelled to now it’s short ear length bob. My sisters hair is just long and blonde.

  • @raf1717
    @raf1717 5 місяців тому

    Beautiful Ant. Minahasa you have there.. I am from Minahasa 😂 it was believed that some pure-breed Crystalinums were brought to Minahasa from S. America by the Portuguese or Dutch colony and they survived in many households and it was rediscovered by plant enthusiasts recently, and they call it Anthurium Minahasa or King Crystalinum.

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  5 місяців тому

      Oh that is so interesting 👀 thank you so much for sharing!

  • @rosewagner4018
    @rosewagner4018 7 місяців тому +1

    They are all so pretty! I so enjoy all your videos! 💚🪴💚

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Thank you so much Rose 🥰

  • @nancyrock477
    @nancyrock477 6 місяців тому

    I love anthuriums! Thank you for showing the unboxing.

  • @LK110
    @LK110 7 місяців тому

    If you like pink and sparkly veins, you would like A. Michelle. Or Zara. Or Zara x Michelle hybrid. Or them all. 😂
    Video full of Anthuriums, ooh la la! 🤩 My fav of your collection is moodeanum. 😍 Dark leaves are my thing! 😊

  • @wannabe_gardner5857
    @wannabe_gardner5857 7 місяців тому

    I would love an update video when you figure out what the names of your new plants are. Loved this video.

  • @nancyrock477
    @nancyrock477 5 місяців тому

    I absolutely love all anthurium!

  • @jetterasmussen6577
    @jetterasmussen6577 7 місяців тому +1

    Fern, I blame you! I blame you for forcing me to order 3 Anthuriums this week. And 6 other plants 🙈😄. I’m OBSESSED with your doriyaki silver red crystallinum. If you ever have seeds from that, please let me know 🙏🏻

  • @Laurent-o2t
    @Laurent-o2t 7 місяців тому

    What a beautiful collection. Bravo and thank you 🙂

  • @maryelizabeth2096
    @maryelizabeth2096 7 місяців тому +1

    This is so exciting!!! I love getting baby anthurium and watching them grow! Happy for you!

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      It's so fun to watch them transform. Thank you for watching :)

  • @Laura_Garcia86
    @Laura_Garcia86 7 місяців тому +4

    How exciting!!! I was just watching your vlog! 🥰

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +4

      ahh perfect timing 😁

    • @PetraEmmy
      @PetraEmmy 7 місяців тому +1

      Me too!

  • @angelamartindale3382
    @angelamartindale3382 7 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful, beautiful collection!! I have only two ... Crystallinum that is thriving and a Dorayaki that I thought died, she pushed out a new leaf only last week) I've had them for several years!

  • @carolstuff
    @carolstuff 7 місяців тому

    Awesome anthurium gifts! Thanks for the update on those beauties Fern; my fave is the one that got the fenestration from the alocasia!

  • @carolynd1679
    @carolynd1679 7 місяців тому

    WOW!! Thai Constellations are for sale on the Walmart website for $50!!

  • @lisaanglim9588
    @lisaanglim9588 7 місяців тому

    Love the veining in the last one.

  • @roots_and_ruin
    @roots_and_ruin 7 місяців тому +1

    The super round leaves on the king anthurium 😍 Today I got a standard red flamingo anthurium for £1 off the rescue shelf, I know folk think they're boring but I love the foliage! Dorayaki on my wishlist next!

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      That's an awesome find!! I like the foliage too. Thanks for watching 😁

    • @a.cheekyspaxid
      @a.cheekyspaxid 7 місяців тому

      As an anthurium person I absolutely can appreciate the "ears" on the flamingo anthurium. I got a silver blush x dorayaki as my second anthurium following the flamingo. The difference in their leaf shapes is part of what got me hooked, the round vs the bunny ears :)

  • @endor8witch
    @endor8witch 6 місяців тому

    By the way daun is pronounced as dah-oon. It means leaves in Indonesian :)

  • @ThatGirlShelbyy
    @ThatGirlShelbyy 7 місяців тому +1

    AHHHH clicked SO FAST!!
    I've been so excited for this update!! I really hope to own a plant from them someday! ❤🇨🇦❤️

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +2

      ahhhh ENJOY 🫶 and I hope you do too! they're so gorgina

  • @Swingn2plants
    @Swingn2plants 7 місяців тому

    You're collection looks great. You're dying an amazing job with your anthuriums.

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Thank you so much 😊

  • @kevin.
    @kevin. 7 місяців тому +1

    So excited to watch this!! 😍

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +2

      😃😃😃

  • @PetraEmmy
    @PetraEmmy 7 місяців тому +2

    Fern I only have a plain old crystallinum..but it seems to have a few babies growing and I don't know if I leave them or try to put them in another pot.. I know waaayyyyyy less then you about these plants. I know orchids 😂 I find the anthuriums all kind look the same.. I just don’t understand the draw..But that’s just me.

  • @cooloutac
    @cooloutac 7 місяців тому

    I just did that with my first anthurium, a couple of flamingo plants lol. didn't realize they got bone dry in less than a week after receiving them in the mail. then one I watered i accidentally left it sitting in water all day. on both plants all the leaves are curling up almost completely closing they are both in completely different rooms and I don't know if its from from poorly watering, or from not enough light or humidity or drafts, vents. not idea but its not looking good lol. I knew they were going to be a challenge but figured I'd give it a shot. hopefully they keep their flowers for a while at least.

  • @saramarie9455
    @saramarie9455 7 місяців тому

    18:37 😍
    & then you say cupet, i used to call cups cupets (ya know a cup x bucket) when i was little…. didn’t think i could love you more😂 ..stop it

  • @kristathompson9888
    @kristathompson9888 7 місяців тому

    Wow they’ve all gotten so big 💚

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Right 😁 it was fun to make this video and look back on them!

  • @LeafyConversations
    @LeafyConversations 7 місяців тому

    Those are beautiful!!!!! Anthurium is now my favorite. 😂. The second one looked like a Magnificum I just got one and the leaves look like each other, but no red like yours.

  • @lamnium
    @lamnium 7 місяців тому

    I am new to anthuriums (I have had them for over a year but I haven"t done any researching so they are just being there getting watered every now and then😅) My anthuriums are having a hard time. if one leaf emerges, older leaf crisps and dies off... I haven't been doing my best in humidity wise but I envy your anthurium crew😂😂

  • @vlong7112
    @vlong7112 7 місяців тому +1

    I have zero anthurium but was so excited to get to this video!
    I'm here for all of it.
    But, Guuuuurl, where are you going to put all these plants? 😂😂😂

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +1

      I don't knowwww 🫣 send help lol

    • @vlong7112
      @vlong7112 7 місяців тому

      @@wildfern I'm going to pick up two more plants tomorrow with zero room 😂
      Time to get creative!

  • @shesjustsomegirl
    @shesjustsomegirl 7 місяців тому

    Hey 🫶🏼 cute intro. I'm so excited to see the new babies ♡♡♡

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Thank you! 🤗

  • @Monchesque
    @Monchesque 7 місяців тому

    I'd be tempted to put that moodeanum on a moss pole honestly with how tall its stem is compared to the others! Super impressive how amazing they all look 😊

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      So true! I bet it would love a pole 👀

  • @kimberlyferreira8522
    @kimberlyferreira8522 7 місяців тому +1

    happy monday fern! i recently passed through some anthuriums planted on the mall that had berries, so i did what any plant person would do and stole some berries 😂 2 of them have sprouted and they’re sooooo cute

  • @elfeberlin7038
    @elfeberlin7038 7 місяців тому

    Hi Fern, love your videos ❤
    You should have a mail which indentifies the plants by the small numbers on the packaging.🤗

  • @clairealexander8747
    @clairealexander8747 7 місяців тому

    just sat down to lunch hoping to watch a new video and you provide!!!!!!!

  • @LuluK-ig5xo
    @LuluK-ig5xo 7 місяців тому

    Happy Monday! 🥳

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +1

      happy Monday 🥰🥰

  • @plantito-bong6586
    @plantito-bong6586 7 місяців тому

    Omg 🫶😍 thinking of getting longer wishlist 😉

  • @yessflora
    @yessflora 6 місяців тому

    nice plants😊

  • @lisaanglim9588
    @lisaanglim9588 7 місяців тому

    So is the KOS stunning.

  • @lisaanglim9588
    @lisaanglim9588 7 місяців тому

    Love anthurium #2. Love the venation.

  • @paytonunrau7705
    @paytonunrau7705 7 місяців тому

    Yugen is amazing!! ❤

  • @katbattt
    @katbattt 7 місяців тому

    Oooh i love anthurium so much! Im on the hunt for a seriously dark boi with minimal veins. My current fave in my collection is my forgettii x gigi though, irs so cute!!

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +1

      Ooo sameeee I would love a *super* dark one. And that sounds gorg - forgetii hybrids are so stunning 🤩

  • @lisaanglim9588
    @lisaanglim9588 7 місяців тому

    Love the venation on the mini haha.

  • @kaybeepal
    @kaybeepal 7 місяців тому

    Love youe king of spades! Tempted to get it!

  • @m3msilva
    @m3msilva 7 місяців тому

    Love your videos, thank you for sharing with us. I wonder if you can message them with the numbers on each plant to get their name?

  • @beca9194
    @beca9194 7 місяців тому +1

    Hi, Fern! Love the update! But can you do another plant fail or rehabbing type of video with some tips? Not that I'm expecting you to fail in your plant care 😁 but sometimes we need that type of video to remind ourselves that it's okay to fail sometimes, we're not alone, plants are living beings that throw tantrums sometimes... Lately I'm quite struggling with some of my plants idk why and the plant videos I come across are always the ones that show how thriving their plants are, plant haul, plant collection, plant tour that mostly show only the good side of their plants 🥲

  • @PlantedinPlatinum
    @PlantedinPlatinum 7 місяців тому

    Oooo you got some beauties 😍😍

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +1

      Yes mystery beauties 😍 I really want to get the ID’s so you can help me match them up again 😂😅

    • @PlantedinPlatinum
      @PlantedinPlatinum 7 місяців тому

      @@wildfern haha deal 😂💚

  • @latishasuarez1366
    @latishasuarez1366 7 місяців тому +1

    Ok. ❤️ You're new plants. But they come with the label it would be nice for them to actually label them with their label that would be even better....

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Right 😂 It was like that last time too lol.

  • @S3b1n0
    @S3b1n0 7 місяців тому

    sorry for changing topic but as an its succulent growing era could you make an succulent update please? love uu

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Yes! There's going to be an updated cactus & succulent repot soon so you'll see them in that one.

  • @FaithRickett
    @FaithRickett 7 місяців тому

    That King of Spades though!!! 🤩🤩🤩

  • @hjkhkjgjhk5710
    @hjkhkjgjhk5710 7 місяців тому

    Love it❤

  • @lizam6303
    @lizam6303 7 місяців тому

    Are they all in Molly’s mix? Do you amend that substrate?

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Some of them are in Molly’s Aroid Mix and some of them are in my simple DIY mix (soil, perlite, & orchid bark). In general for my anthurium (including the ones not featured in this video) I would say the younger plants do better in Molly’s, but the more mature ones aren’t as fussed with what mix I put them in.

  • @Anah-B
    @Anah-B 7 місяців тому +1

    That’s crazy they sent plant tags with no names 😂

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      😩😩 my unidentified babies

  • @lisaanglim9588
    @lisaanglim9588 7 місяців тому

    Pretty begonia

  • @HalieKelley
    @HalieKelley 29 днів тому

    Why can’t I access their website though 😢

  • @1101naomi
    @1101naomi 7 місяців тому

    Do anthuriums need a lot of light or medium light?

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +1

      Most of mine receive medium light and seem happy with that.

  • @Smokeypoint40
    @Smokeypoint40 7 місяців тому

    Beautiful im over here trying to not get bitten by the The anthem bug 😅 .....maybe youdontevengrowhere could help ID them ?

  • @shibastutorials
    @shibastutorials 7 місяців тому

    this is unrelated, but I saw fern using osmocote for her plants as a slow release fertilizer. does someone here has any expierence with it? i'm not sure if I can use it on my aroids and if so, how much. I know there's a manual, but I don't want to risk burn oder something. so, does anyone have a expierence with it? i would be really grateful!
    also, ofc, i love your vids fern < 3 you made me obsessed with anthurium!

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +1

      Hi! Thanks for watching :) you can definitely use it on aroids. I *roughly* follow their guide, but honestly just kind of eyeball it now. I’ve never experienced burn from it, but if you’re worried just use a little less. You can always add more in. Hope that helps!

    • @shibastutorials
      @shibastutorials 7 місяців тому

      @@wildfern Thank you so much, this helped a lot!!!

  • @sofiward8080
    @sofiward8080 16 днів тому

    Anyone know where to find a plant pot collar?

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  15 днів тому +1

      Rousseau plant care! :)

    • @sofiward8080
      @sofiward8080 9 днів тому

      @@wildfern Thank you!! I was so bummed when I couldn't find it through google searches

  • @fallenbarbieee
    @fallenbarbieee 7 місяців тому

    ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

  • @KeziaAlexander-o9c
    @KeziaAlexander-o9c 7 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @r3i2x
    @r3i2x 7 місяців тому +1

    No labels is a big big no no for me when buying anthurium hybrids. It is a very critical information to avoid mislabeling in the future. Is this a silent negative review for the seller?

  • @chokchokda3rd
    @chokchokda3rd 7 місяців тому

    Wishlist anthuriums for me gotta be wendlingeri and cutucuense

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Oooh yessss, amazing picks.

  • @plantswithsara
    @plantswithsara 7 місяців тому

    Does anyone happen to know the name of the song at the end of the video?

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      You Make Me Feel by Staffan Carlen :)

  • @lynec8317
    @lynec8317 7 місяців тому

    🥰

  • @tanushreesaha2872
    @tanushreesaha2872 7 місяців тому

    Wwoooohoooo❤🎉

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +2

      enjoy!! thank you for watching :)

  • @sonnyalvarado768
    @sonnyalvarado768 5 місяців тому

    Damn can we say plant "growers" gone wild? So many people/new companies naming and renaming plants & "hybrids" from pseudo new hybrids plants. All these new plant "breeders"/sellers and implying they're botanist is all craziness and an attempt to profit off of this plant trend befor the plant bubble bust. I cannot pin point which consumers are falling for these rare. new plants and paying high price for plants that 1) Plant hybrids and cultivars take a long time to create in research and establish stable hardy plants 2) A person/company simply crossing plants with hybrids, even more bogus hybrid with hybrid doesn't mean you created a new unstable or stable plant. Without the proper documentation research to show, it is not legit. And this sense of entitlement, in which "breeders" "growers" are naming old plants as if they created a new type of plant in the genus or species is freaking ridiculous but their scam is actually working because people are actually buying "rare' "new" plants is seed and tissue without knowing if they're are consuming a frankenstein plant that can potentially be weak and prone to fungal and viral diseases.

  • @r3i2x
    @r3i2x 7 місяців тому

    Hi Fern, are you European?

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому +2

      I am Canadian. Thanks for watching!

  • @gilbertusgerry5533
    @gilbertusgerry5533 7 місяців тому

    Hi from Indonesia \(' ')/

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      Hi! Thank you so much for watching :)

  • @lisaanglim9588
    @lisaanglim9588 7 місяців тому

    You really go for veining too, don’t you.

  • @BiNaSauRoUz
    @BiNaSauRoUz 7 місяців тому +1

    If you email/message Kartel Daun the numbers on the packages, they’ll give you IDs!

    • @wildfern
      @wildfern  7 місяців тому

      I’ve emailed them and messaged them on insta with no response :( lol

  • @chiarawachholz1416
    @chiarawachholz1416 7 місяців тому

    What are your go to substrates for anthurium? Mine seem to hate any normal aroid mix 🥲

    • @IsabelleHayden-ld1lc
      @IsabelleHayden-ld1lc 7 місяців тому +1

      I use tree fern mixed with perlite and a bit of pon, and then I mix that with a normal aroid mix. I was inspired by @youdontevengrowhere and my anthurium have been loving it, tree fern is a bit expensive though.

    • @a.cheekyspaxid
      @a.cheekyspaxid 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@IsabelleHayden-ld1lc Yes yes yes. I throw about 50% anything chunky in there like bark, large perlite, and even lecca then tree fern fiber plus a nutrient dense loose mix like potting soil or worm castings. As of last year kartel daun said they were using exclusively slow release fertilizer, so their soil mix has to be very nutritious. my source for that info is the video OnlyPlants posted 1yr ago at their nursery

  • @kamailetoto6640
    @kamailetoto6640 7 місяців тому

    What is the discord chat link?