I subbed cause I can't help but respect your takes on everything. No pettiness , no putting anyone down. Just a straight bball opinion that's super respectable. I'm a MJ guy but just like you said . if all i saw was lebron than i'd have a hard time saying anyone was better. Keep up the excellent content.
Problem is favorite player thinks he’s the goat and the the real goat never claimed. So it’s self proclaimed LeBron and People proclaimed Jordan. Big difference.
Funny you should say Michael Jordan would be everywhere because of social media. He was a worldwide celebrity in the 90s without social media. There's a reason why the NBA has all these brand sponsorships today. MJ did that.
1998 championship against the jazz. 29 million TV per game. Last year's finals averaged 5 million tvs.. per game. The experience of watching basketball as entertainment has fallen dramatically.
Why did they jump with Jordan, because players took pride in defense and wanted to stop him. Also there were great leapers and athletes in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. Jordan was a freak of an athlete. Thirdly, it's hard to seriously say players are more skilled now, when they are allowed to travel, carry the ball, and don't have to deal with handchecking, in a league that promotes offense.
Yup. When i heard i was like, umm its their job to stop him. Those big men back in the day didnt care about being posterized. To them it's more embarrassing to not jump and challenge the dunk or just take a charge.
Only kids today would advocate "not jumping" with someone. In other words, they're afraid of being dunked on, so simply don't try. Old heads weren't made like that.
Pretty sure it's in every NBA player's contract, right down the bottom amongst the fine print you can hardly read, "DON'T INJURE LEBRON OR YOU WILL BE TERMINATED!" 🤣
You grew up at Lebron era, people who grew up with Michael Jordan and witnessed also Lebron, they all will tell you that there is no comparison and it''s not even a debate. MJ was on another Level.
People that grew up watching Jordan and also saw LeBron will say Kobe is No 2. I put LeBron in the Magic Johnson, Shaq, Bird, Kareem, Iverson, KD, Curry type of category 😁
Good call, LeBron is a great for sure. But second tier all day. I think the real reason this "debate" started was him claiming himself to be the best on camera. He isn't MJ in any universe. An I'd take Kobe, Bird an Magic over him.@@republicofcasuals
My opinion - I grew up in the 70's-80's. Jordan is the best player I ever saw, but its paper thin over Bird (and I hated the Celtics) Some dont realize how great Bird was. Anyway.....Jordan, Bird, Magic Kobe, Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, etc. Lebron is great but hard to put him in that group for me. An era where defense is not allowed makes it impossible to take him over anyone where hard physical hard defense was allowed. Lebron lacks the killer instinct and the heart that the above mentioned had. We have seen him quit on the court...........and oh the flopping.....please make it stop. Put this way........an era that celebrates James Harden as a great player......that is enough said for me.
@@paulyp9853 Welllllll... For the most part i agree about LeBron half hearting it, but i will push back (a little lol) in that James Harden as much of low energy player he portrays, he did lead the NBA in scoring for 3 years in a row and has been in the 10 ten scorers list, even top 5 scorers for almost all of his career. So, i get what you're saying, but James Harden at the end of the day is a great player like say Allen Iverson, Kevin Garnett were compared to Kobe. Not top tier with Jordan, Kobe, Bird, Magic etc... but i would put James Harden career alongside Steph Curry, Kevin Durrant, LeBron James, Giannis ack... (no idea how to spell his name hehe) and Joel Embiid types 😁
@@republicofcasuals I do not believe he is a great player. He is a scorer for sure, but he is allergic to defense. I do not gauge a players career by championships usually, but in the NBA the player has much more of an impact of the team and the game than any other sport. With that said this great player has none. I just dont consider him a great player. The fact that some may is a reflection on the state of the NBA.
Exactly. People are not going to be looking at Lebron highlights in 30+ years. They don't even look at them now. He hasn't even had any worth looking at in over a decade 😂.
@@tonymenino279Now just imagine Lebron in the video. MJ would be doing the same shit, just insert LeBron in there being absolutely posterized like everyone else.
I have watched this video about 20,30 times and most of the other Jordan highlight videos many times over. It is amazing how I still can't believe my eyes every fucking time!!! There will never be Lebron highlight videos like this ever.
I’m an 80’s kid. People don’t understand the phenomenon Jordan was. People that didn’t even like basketball would cancel plans or go to game parties to watch Jordan play. And that was mid season, not even the playoffs or finals. It was unlike anything I’ve ever experienced.
I'm with you on Jordan (I live about 15 minutes from UNC campus). What a great era for sport fans. Imagine what what Bo Jackson would have accomplished if he hadn't destroyed his hip. We had the privilege of watching 2 men that defied logic, plus Mike Tyson.
I've played basketball and i have never once heard anyone scream "LeBron" when going in... "KOBE" for sure. Tongue hanging out like Jordan, all the time. Breaking ankles like Iverson. Dunking like Vince Carter, but i honestly never seen a LeBron inspired play...
Dude, MJ was the only athlete to make thousands of israeli fans wake up 3AM to watch the playoffs. The next player to do it was kobe. but not at the same numbers. After He retired many stopped watching live games. The GOD of basketball and the most perfect athlete the world has ever seen. NO one and i mean NO ONE come close to what MJ did for basketball and winning mentality in general.
MJ retired and ratings took a dump in 94&95..he retired in 98 the ratings dropped..he retired from the wizards and they dropped again so Stern finally made significant game changes in the rules etc
I don't see how anyone could argue that LeBron is the goat, he's not even in the top 3. MJ had that killer instinct, the definition of clutch when it counted and he played insane defense.
I grew in chicago watching mike live..the thing nobody knows is when mike played crime was down 70% cause everybody was in the house watching mike..true story
yeah i could see that cause when we had dwight gooden in nyc is was must see even though b ball was my sport i could see why and you are very lucky to have had that experience
And that was game 2 of the '91 finals which he started feeding his team mates dimes until it was time to take over and finish off the Lakers! For a guy that "is not a good passer" or "doesn't pass" depending on the talking head's bs narrative, to finish the game with 30+ points and 12 assists I think should tell you enough of what you've been fed by the msm! And to add a bit more context: throughout that series MJ ended up again with 30+ppg and 11.4 assists per game just an assist shy of Magic's 12.4 apg! Let that sink in for a while...
People always get the context of MJ shooting and making all those 3's in a row in the finals against Clyde Drexler snd the Trailblazers wrong. Even the announcer got it wrong. He wasn't surprised he was making them. There was an article that came out in Portland that said to beat the Bulls, the Trailblazers would need to keep Jordan out of the lane and force him to hit the three. Before that game, there was an interview with Jordan and the interviewer mentioned the article and asked why he didn't shoot more 3's. Jordan said that he just never wanted or needed to. That wasn't the game he wanted to play. (If you were around back then and playing basketball on neighborhood courts in NY, then you understand this completely. We use to call people that never took it inside but just shot from the outside playing p**sy ball*. Men took it inside and scored AGAINST the contact. They didn't run from it or try to shoot further and further away from it. Jordan was born in Brooklyn. He may have grown up mostly in NC but he always said his style of play was NY. ). So shooting and making all those 3's in a row (that broke the finals record at that time) was him just making a statement about it. The "shrug" was NOT surprise. It was more like, "Well I guess that strategy isn't going to work! Or...see I told ya!". BTW - I would put that Drexler team that the Bulls beat in the finals up against any of these teams today and be confident they would dominate them. Teams today are guards and a cast of players all playing like small forwards........none of which play defense.
MJ and Magic had dinner the night before and MJ told him watch what I do tomorrow and MJ came out for warmups and shot almost ALL 3’s and people were wondering if he was injured cuz he NEVER shot 3’s in practice like that..well you see what a 50+% midrange shooter and a 84% free throw shooter can do if he wanted to
MJ was the Terminator and had the league, SHOOK! I'm 40 and the next best thing I saw close to MJ, was Kobe. Both were killers and fundamentally, skilled players. Their footwork was crazy and they were obsessed with winning. There are a lot of good and great players playing today but, none of them has that ruthless and relentless attituded both MJ and Kobe had. They were great on both sides of the ball. Guys like Giannis shows glimpses of that killer instinct and plays both sides of the ball which, is enjoyable and rare to see today.
Great comment. I grew up in what I would call mostly the MJ era -- caught a lil' Magic / Bird but I was young when they were at their greatest peaks. And I saw Kobe play -- but by the the time he was winning chips I was in grad school so I didn't have as much time to watch as I did for MJ (and also I am a EC gal, but can appreciate greatness wherever it may be). But yes to all of your comment -- Giannis is lacking a little in outside shooting efficiency which the analysts NEVER forget to mention LOL, but they change it into saying he doesn't have "a bag"? I feel like we aren't even talking the same language of basketball these days -- Giannis isn't a great outside shooter, but so are plenty of other dudes I could mention even HoF level past and present we won't mention, but they ignore the 10+ other really important contributions of team sport he has to helping his team win? Either way, I will take watching a hard-working and productive Giannis play today on both ends of the court with his hustle and heart and constant willingness to train and improve every year over the "only offense even if it takes flopping and manipuplating the refs" players and players who cherry pick or give up when it gets tough. And to give a little nuance -- bad reffing and bad rules aren't entirely on the players. I get it. And I also get why owners and players alike would want to get rid of not just the bad boy era injurious play, as well as the insidious play of the Karl Malone elbows that could hospitalize players or the underhanded foot sweeps of many others that persisted for a long time. But holy crap, now it's gotten to the point where if you celebrate a dunk, breathe on a player from a foot away and he misses a shot/ and or a player does something clumsy or embarrasing in your proximity, or smile at a ref you're getting some kind of technical. It's sucking all the air out of the game. I'm getting to the point where I can hardly watch a game these days even with players I like.
@@Tcheera Yeah! The NBA has been watered down to the point that defense is a risky, relic of the past. Worst part about it is that this generation will crown players the goat, knowing they play only one side of the ball, play 2/3 or less of the season, and take shortcuts. Having a killer instinct isn't necessary and is ignored by fans because of how the game is pushed; marketing players who are lazy. It's sad that the players who actually, care don't get the recognition they deserve. The foreign players actually, play team ball and don't seem to care much about individual glory. They play their roles and are about winning as a team. Yet, they are either, ridiculed or ignored because they are "boring" to watch or, not helping with an agenda.
I'm 40 and I actually got to see MJ play in person when the Bulls came to "The Mark" in Moline, IL... it was a great game and I loved seeing him play in person, but I didn't get a chance to ask for an autograph from anyone
@@Lbb789 Kobe took what worked for him, from MJ. Kobe couldn't palm the ball like MJ, so he couldn't do everything MJ did. MJ was more, gifted than Kobe. Kobe had to work very hard; some say, harder than MJ because he didn't have the natural gifts MJ had. When I was in the military, we watched a lot of training films. Marching, combat, first aid, etc., were some of the stuff we watched all the time. We were told, if you seek perfection, you have to find it 1st. Then, study and imitate it. Some of my best moments in life, happened, while I was imitating something I thought was great. I believe that's what Kobe was doing, while being taught by other great players. There's no shame in that.
The only thing lebron did better relative to his position is passing and playing longer. That is objectively the truth... Michael Jordan doesn't have to be your favorite player. He's just better than your favorite player. What really separates Michael Jordan from everyone else is his playoff performance is actually the highest statistical increase of any player ever, despite being the all time leader in regular season points per game
I always wondered why so many people don't know the difference between who's the "goat" and who their favorite player is. We like or dislike different players for different reasons but it doesn't mean we can't be objective when it comes to who's the better player. In almost every sports, my favorite player is not the GOAT, not even close in some cases 😅
MJ played in all 82 games 8x with Chicago and 1x with the Wizards at age 40…shooting over 42% from the field and averaging 22 pts per game while leading his team in points, rebounds assists, and steals…😎✌️🎤🔥
@@jackastor5265 that’s insane for any player to have that kind of durability, especially back then when defenses/defenders could basically pummel/rough-up the person with the ball…
@@stevenaleman7454 It is but way more players did it back then, not just Jordan. So you have to ask yourself what is going on with these guys in the NBA now that have better nutrition, better training room equipment, etc. but can't play more than 10-20 games without being injured and that is most of the league. It was last season, or the one before only 5 players in the entire league played all 82 games, these guys are incapable of playing even one season of basketball.
@@jackastor5265 that’s a great point/question…the same can be said about Major League Baseball players too, I think…doesn’t make sense to see players suffer so many injuries with all this technology and nutrition information available these days…🤫
The funny thing is you watch highlights and just think he's some athletic phenom that only dunked on cats. But MJ had an incredible mid range and post up game. He was so clutch and had a different level to his game. It's hard to fully comprehend how incredible MJ was unless you watch the games.
Huge difference in mental makeup compared to LeBron who came up entitled from day one, and therefore expected to succeed. Mj came in with a chip on his shoulder to prove he was the best. His ability to self motivate kept him at the top
MJ is the greatest athlete in team sports history. No single player ever affected his team, his league, or his sport more. Michael actually changed the world… . That being said, my generation is somewhat spoiled. We watched Tyson in his prime, Tiger in his prime, serena, Nolan Ryan, and also Lebron in his prime. We devalue Wilt the way today’s youth devalues MJ. Not completely, but just enough to put their generation’s best at no. 1 . If you really look into Wilts game, it’s impossible to put anyone above him. Averaged 50 for a season, scored 100 in a gave, presumably blocked more shots than any other player ever, never fouled out of a game, ran a 4.3 - 40, was a collegiate high jump champion, and had 10,000 + women… GOAT. He’s still holds numerous records. I’d take Kareem, Hakeem, Kobe, Magic, bird, MJ, Wilt, and maybe even t-Mac and Karl Malone over Lebron .
That's a Fact thou, not even close this is not a debate at all, I leave in the Far East I'm Asia If you Think basketball is the best sport in my Country and second to the U,S as we Founded basketball if I'm not mistaken 1935 when first American sailor bring the SPORT in our country but since the basketball is Growing faster as a 1 sports in Asia as a fan of the bulls and the Lakers may I say Jordan is the most influential person who walk in this planet and there a reason for that, you know how expensive his pair of shoes? And a got 7 pair of that shoes.
The thing no one ever mentions about this mixtape, is that these highlights are almost exclusively from his playoff runs with a few regular season games thrown in. There are highlights from maybe 50 or 60 games total, with multiple jaw dropping clips from each game. But MJ played over a thousand games in the league. He was just as spectacular on a random ass Tuesday as he was in a Game 6 elimination. A true mixtape would be hours long.
Great reaction youngster. I commend you for not being bias and saying ignorant $#!@ like "Bron can do that" after MJ does some nasty move like most Bron ignorant superman lovers. Nothing wrong with Bron being your GOAT. I'm in my mid-50s and fell in love with the sport in Magic's rookie season (1979). He's my favorite player all-time. But without hesitation I proclaim MJ to be the GOAT. I saw him ball in person a few times and what my 20/20 vision witnessed was like nothing it had seen before or after him. That bounce and hang-time aka aerial anarchy made Rodan extremely envious. He was also so creative. Just pure artistry. Great point on him abusing and dunking on all in today's Monistat moist vaginal NBA. MJ was dippin' on the greatest defensive bigs all-time (Hakeem, David Robinson, Mourning, Mutumbo, Ewing, Eaton, Parish, Rollins). I strongly doubt that Wemby or Greek Freak would be able to deter him from putting them on posters. Those that never saw him in person just have no clue how quick he was able to get off the ground. Before you knew it he was already airborne. And that's the reason he was dubbed black cat. Those that claim MJ would be just another DeRozan in today's soft as Vagisil yeast infection ointment league are infinitely ignorant. Kobe was much superior than DeMar and MJ was Kobe on PEDs. And I like DeRozan - he's a Southern Cali cat like myself. But compared to MJ he's a Dahmer after supper cadaver.
I’m 27, and MJ is the GOAT! He would have a field day in this era. Like you said, he got off the ground so quickly off 1 leg or 2 leg jumps. No 7 footers today would have any better luck than the 7 footers that MJ faced (they were better). I’ve always said - if Luka Doncic is averaging 33-8-9… and Russell Westbrook was averaging a triple double… wtf is Michael Jeffrey Jordan doing? Scary.
Any body who ever saw Michael Jordan play, knows he would score 55 a night with his eyes closed in today's NBA, between the lack of defense and the new shot clock rules, and no big man, it would not be fair. We know, trust us we know Lebron ain't no Michael Jordan, but he is good. If I am starting a team I am going MJ, Kobe, then Lebron.
This is the reason why MJ will always be the greatest. 1. I never saw Jordan ask for his f’’’’’’’’’’ing respect.2. I’ve never seen the audience Bullying MJ in their own home.3. I never saw MJ looking for a referee to ask to take out a fan who paid for her ticket. 4.I never saw MJ fight a woman for mocking his game. 5. I never saw MJ score 8 points in a finals. 6. I’ve never seen MJ get swept in the finals. 7. I never saw MJ Lose in a finals. 8. I never saw MJ lose to an inferior team in the playoffs. 9. I’ve never seen MJ lose in an olympics. 10. I never saw MJ play on super team and not make the playoffs. 11. I never saw MJ rest off season he always tried to play every game. 12. I never saw MJ proclaim himself the greatest of all time. So you tell me who is the greatest.
I'm Italian and even my dad and my mom, who didn't care about ANY sports, knew who MJ was. And I never talked about him with them. Everybody knew who he was. He didn't need social media. I'm 52, I love basketball, but I'm still waiting for a player who can do things better than him... No one has a better vertical, a better killer instinct, a better record in the playoffs and most of all in the finals. I'm even pissed off because there's no professional dude who can jump BEHIND the free throw line (NOT a finger, and please, with DRIBBLES), and this is a shame... more than 30 years. Come on. A basketball fan like me wants to watch an improvement: "There won't ever be another Jordan" is a stupid statement: I immediately WANTED to see someone better than him, when he retired. And I was SURE about that... Phenomenal players, but not MJ. Still pissed off. (I was a Celtics and Lakers supporter, in the 80s. Then, a Pistons supporter. No biased sh*t.)
You nailed it when you said 'Jordan played in a tough era'. Physically it was brutal. Until halfway through Jordan's career, it was OK to physically hammer guys every time they approached the paint. Just ask the Pistons. The harder it got, the higher he went through the gears. The dude was ferocious. I don't think LeBron has the stone cold killer instinct to WANT to dominate in every single aspect of the game like MJ did. And nobody who ever grew up watching MJ ever says LeBron is the GOAT, yet they saw LeBron play too....
I think the term goat has become synonomous with favorite. There's a G.O.A.T. and there's your favorite. They can be 2 different people. Michael said, "Hey Mutombo, this is for you, baby." That's not oldhead speech, you can hear that today in 2024! MJ has giant hands!
MJ is the GOAT and it’s not even close. I have no idea why kids today say the NBA is more talented today. Todays players are half as talented because almost non of them play defense. 80s and 90s what the most complete and talented basketball ever played.
There’s no way Wemby would block Jordan. Today’s centers are thin compared to the centers and power forwards in the 90’s. Shaq, Mourning, Olajuwon, Ewing, Laimbeer, Malone, Mutumbo.
You don't have to apologize but the difference is we used to see and appreciate the eras before. It didn't matter that we grew up watching Jordan. We appreciated basketball and the history of the game. You sittin here worried about the man's hair
Damar DeRozan whaattt dude banged in half court sets taking one to no steps. He just jumps and hangs on the air wait for defenders to come down while he thripple pumps and this happens all night long. Players usually have one good highlight a month or year not all game.
The difference between today and back in, is back then you can play defense and in today basketball you getting called for a foul so much you can’t even played defense in today’s basketball. That’s why it looks like talent is so much better today and plus back Then the players don’t even care about shooting threes as much as they do today.
13:40 - MJ didn't *need* social media. He *was* EVERYWHERE because he was just that damn good, that damn driven, that damn smart, and that damn inspiring. NBA, Olympics, Nike, Gatorade, Coke, McDonald's, Wheaties, Hanes, Space Jam movie, Michael Jackson's "Jam" music video, Teknoe's "(I Wanna Be) Like Mike" song, Prostars animated series, Saturday Night Live, PSA's, his own cologne, billboards, magazines covers, talk shows, etc...
@@bthomas518 I'm pretty sure even most Kobe's are worth more than LeBron's. Me, I just got a pair of Curry's and still rock some old school size US15 Kevin Garnets 😁
Lebron is able to go to the paint for a dunk or a lay-up, and can pass the ball, shoked a bunch of times, and build teams around superstars, which I didn't like Bron doing that, todays game is 0 defense, a week ago in 5 games, 8 teams dropped more than 130 points, 7 of them 140 points. MJ was able to do whatever he wanted in a bigger size and more defensive era, where Centers camped under the rim, a flagrant foul, was a regular foul, and he was 50% shooter mid range and in clutch time, and you just watched shooting, dunking and lay-ups over 3-4 people defenders constantly. Also, he was more effective than any player in history. If you watch a whole MJ regular game, you gonna see he constantly scores on people with only 1 or 2 dribbles or even in less than 3 seconds, MJ was fast, consistent, efficient, and agile. I suggest you to watch a whole game, so you see the difference. Also, MJ accomplished more in less time. I'm a Bron fan, also MJ fan, I watched both playing, I'm 40, so I have watched more Bron games than MJ. MJ THE GOAT 🐐 But besides everything, it was great video. Good job.
All that crazy dribbling and NO TRAVELING!! Imagine the ball handling skills you need to have. Nowadays everyone just walking and traveling and never getting called. Skill level has gone down over the years!
I'm Lebron fan since he is 16yo, I'm 39 like Bron, I have watched MJ since 91 and up, and Lebron whole career. Lebron slack in a lot of stuff in comparison vs MJ. Lebron couldn't make a shot out of 3ft from the basket, averaged 35%, great longevity, but choked a lot of times, and joined teams with 2 superstars and a bunch of great role players, and has been dominated by a bunch of teams and players. Dallas the underdog beat the Heats, champs 4-10, and great total carreer stats. But not like MJ 3peat twice, for an 6-0. MJ was a killer, slasher, cold blood, competitive, offensively and defensively great, clutch, dominated the NBA, Accomplished more in less time, averaged stats are better than Bron in regular season, go see playoffs, MJ stats are insane. When you collected all the info, Lebron can be anyone favorite player. But MJ is the #1, Bron is #2.
You Youngblood just don't understand how phenomenal MJ was... He was UNSTOPPABLE!!!!! Offensive AND defensive. The accolades of this MJs accomplished still haven't been broken yet. He shook up the ENTIRE NBA.....for years.....and y'all still want to cling to a 4-6 LeBron James. He's no goat, but maybe the "Billy goat" compared to MJ. There will never be another player quite like him....not in my life time. ...and if there is...he has some big, ass freaking shoes to fill. You Youngblood that didn't get the chance to see MJ soar and excel, missed a cllinic....on the ENTIRE NBA. He posterized everybody...as a 6'6 guard. Who's doing that in today's NBA? NOBODY....
The 80s and 90s was a time when they still played Basketball instead of just seeing who can shoot more 3 pointers. Defense meant JUST as much as Offense, don't confuse skill with having the freedom on offense to shoot without wondering if your gonna drive to the paint and get physically hurt. as well as the game has change to make the game into a 3 point contest for more fast paced excitement. I cant tell you how many people call me a jordan lover or fan boy when I HATED Jordan back in the day as a kid. EVERYBODY loved MJ and I was a Big Seattle Supersonics and Indiana Pacers fan growing up in Hicksville. As an adult I can appreciate just how much better MJ was then anyone else.
Lightning fast first step, quick pullup, shifty, efficient dribbling, insane stamina and intensity, high flyer, one of the best layup and in-game dunk package, clutch, one of the best post-up game, and that deadly fadeaway. All of these being done beautifully like poetry in motion.
Much respect for your review! You showed recognition to the greatest player ever but honored your hero. I give respect to Lebron for his talent and longevity. But when it comes to pure dominance on the court, and the goat debate, Lebron doesn’t make my top 5. You say today’s NBA is more talented, I will agree. But it is also lazy and weak. These guys played hard and tough. Much more contact with blood and heart. Athleticism, today has it. But the heart and physical toughness just isn’t there.
MJ has no equal. He can do it all...from any position, including free throws. His athleticism has no equal in this game before or since. Prime MJ can run circle around Lebron.
If you're a 80s baby Jordan basically introduced us to basketball. I vividly remember sitting down with my champion bulls jersey watching Mike. Watching Mike live was a different experience. You had to be alive back then to truly understand how big of a star Mike was. And the shoes don't get me started on the shoes
Everybody that watched Jordan in the 80's and 90's know exactly what we watched. All you youngbloods saying nobody knows what we just watched makes me laugh. You youngbloods are experiencing for the first time what we saw on a daily with MJ playing basketball.
The Social Media question is interesting. I would say it would be closer to Messi or Ranoldo level than current NBA stars. He was just as much of a World star as an American star.
In today's NBA Michael would average 60 Just based on how free he could enter the paint compared to the legal hacks back then he'd shoot 40 at the free throw every night
Here are the facts and anyone who disagrees doesn't know basketball.. 1. MJ is the goat for many reasons, even 2 decades later his impact and legacy is still being felt on the game of basketball.. 2. First 3peat far better than the 2nd 3peat imo.. 3. 2nd 3peat as amazing as it was that bulls team 96-98 was unfair as the bulls should have lost alot more games than they did but the fact they had 4 ELITE defensive players on the 1 team was just purely and totally unfair to the rest of the league.. facts 💯 Rodman Pippin Harper MJ on the floor together you are completely screwed and good luck scoring 4. Rules MJ had to play under in the 80s and 90s completely different from today's cupcake era. Buckets weren't given for free they were earned.. Had to be creative to get ya buckets.. 5. MJ version of 86 to 93 would average easily 45 PPG in today's era but MJ 96 to 98 35 to 40 PPG.. IF your gonna have a debate you have to clarify which version MJ you talking about..
Coming from an era that watched Jordan live on TV, Knicks fan, you said something very true. If we speak in general, the talent in today's game is much better. The biggest issue for me are the rules. The rules won't allow them to play great defense. It's all about the offense and for me that takes away from the game. The reason why people say that Jordan would average 50 a game nowadays. For me it's not about the talent but the rules holding bacv this generation.
The crazy thing is that he was everywhere without social media, Jordan was famous worldwide if you wasn't there, you'll never understand it ,Jordan was truly must see tv ,every night you saw something amazing...
It's hard for anyone to put someone who they never grew up watching, ahead of their favorite player. Kareem's resume is impressive, but I never watched him play. I grew up watching MJ.
Reason why he's dunking on everyone is because like Amare, they get off the ground so much faster than anyone else. Everyone else still needs a proper load up
definitely...the explosiveness of his jump is as important as his jump height...he simply got up quicker and THEN higher than anyone else...he could jump after a defender and still beat him to the top of the shot for a block...absolutely amazing athlete
There's a difference between today's because and yesterday's basketball and there's a reason why MJ is the GOAT, but this generation it just flys over there head.
"This man would have been everywhere 24-7" 😂.....if only you had seen it. He was everywhere in a way that isn't even possible today. Only a few media sources, he was on all of them, all the time, everywhere in the world. People who didn't even know what the NBA was knew Michael
One thing also is this entire reel was like almost every night. That’s why the end of this video shows the progression or lack thereof by other teams. With exception of his outside shot, he was getting people from day 1 till the last day with the same movies and people couldn’t stop it.
I got to watch MJ's career. This was every night. You also have to understand, these 'plumbers' as some young heads call them, were still crazy athletic. It's just a flash highlight but MJ dunks on Orlando Woolridge. Woolridge still holds the Bulls bench and deadlift records. The game MJ scored 63 against the Celtics he had a 24/11 game with 4 blocks. They also had a vert competition and at 6'10' he put a sticker on the backboard 4" below the top of the backboard. Dude was a beast that today's NBA wouldn't know what to do with. Ever hear of him? Probably not. Says a lot about the 90's NBA.
Todays era is not more talented than the 90s. Todays Players can't even score without taking 5 steps and palming the ball. It's like someone set the NBA difficulty slider to rookie. You take the 12 best players of today and match them up against the 12 best of the 90s and the 90s has the advantage at every position except maybe SF and even there the 90s has the advantage defensively
Being a 90s kid, every. Single. Day. There would be some crazy ridiculous highlight from Jordan in whatever game he played. Literally stuff only he was able to do. Kids today will never get it because they weren't alive to experience it.
As an oldhead i am not concerned with converting a Lebron fan because it is very hard to convince someone away from their Era. i just appreciate the knowledge and respect that the younger generation has for the old school players. this content creator obviously has that appreciation for the game. changing your stance on Lebron is not necessary. Good response sir.
Bro ask why jump with MJ, that's the difference in the league between then and now. Defense! They knew who he was but still went at him, players just let guys do what they want, they just move out of the way.
I agree that effort on defence is lacking nowadays, but at the same time there have been so many rule changes that make it harder to play physical defence
Jordan was a big guy. All muscle, all power. 6"6 and 225. The same size Lennox Lewis fought at. 48 inch vertical. He could done well in the Olympics if he did track and field
Today is not more talented. It only seems that way because of rule changes and it being less physical. Due to flopping, foul calls, lack of defense, and less physical play, players score more. Making it seem ultra talented. But it isn't at all. Alot of these players would truly struggle back then. And on the other side, the players then would excel today because of what more they could do. Young people fail to realize.
Another funny thing kids hear and say.. Nobody could jump with him... just as many athletes back then as now... Only differents now to then is rules and the different horse for different courses..... Pace and space... Nobody got hit with Ninja turtle ozze and turned into better athlete... This league now is the smallest in height and weight going back 40 years.. That is why you have so many more 3 point shooters and less Bigs.. Then when you go overseas and play by their rules which is more like 2000 rules you see we can't compete on the block in the post, rebounding, or rim protection and if you don't hit your threes even with NBA players you will lose to teams less talented because they are not used to that kind of play..
The God in sneakers! Nobody's even near this man SPECIALLY when you consider his efficiency and playing both sides of the ball even up until his 40 😉Unlike someone else who's been resting on defense in past 5 yrs and his team has to pay for it sadly. There's Jordan.. then there are everyone else. Great reaction man👍 We need more Lefans like you
The thing is, his highlight video could be 8 hours long. He did this stuff every night. He didn’t take nights off. You could pick any random game to watch and there would be multiple times where he did things that nobody else in the world could do. Today, you can see one guy that could do one of the things MJ did and a different guy do another thing that MJ could do but nobody can do all of the things that Jordan did
The only thing that Lebron was better than MJ was longevity and that’s cause he plays in the pussy era of the NBA. When MJ played they would beat on that man like he stole something. Lebron can’t play no defense and MJ didn’t have to go to other teams with a stack team, MJ made the team he had better. If MJ was playing todays game he would average 50.
Pretty valid reaction. I can agree with most of what you said. Today the young people just love Lebron. What Lebron fans gotta realize when you're talking about players nowadays are more talented, you have to understand what that actually is. Nowadays players are more talented offensively is how I see it. When it comes to defense, everyone knows defense was way more tough back in the day due to hand check. Michael won defensive player of the year many times .The defense in today's game is very sensitive. Michael Jordan was getting ate up in the paint and he still executed. Can't ever be done again. He's the true Goat in my opinion. Btw you missed quite a few good plays I was wanting you to catch. Couple times you were looking at your phone I think and looking into the camera when you spoke without pausing. You pretty much gave MJ his flowers tho, although many don't.
Love your reaction, but i have to disagree about the more talent in today's NBA. I can list so many legends from that same time, all legends. It would take me too long to type. Plus it was a rougher era. The Jordan Rule alone, ppl beat uip on him to stop him. The Pistons to be exact. He was greatness, like Barry Sanders, Mike Tyson and Ali. GOAT
Everyone is trying to day, LeBron is the goat. I would love to go back in time and put LeBron playing then. He wouldn't be able to handle it. not just Jordan but all the players back then. the pistons were vicious. the used to beat Michael Jordan up. but they still couldn't stop him. LeBron would get a beat down period!!!! Michael stayed with one team. LeBron moves from team to team trying to play with better players. that's not a goat move.
I think it is fine to like someone in the era you grew up in, but as someone who lived through Jordan era and current era it is no comparison. Today's NBA is not nearly as physical, teams hardly play defensive, and most teams rely on 3 pointers. LeBron is really good but his stats in clutch situations are poor, he lost more championship games then he won, and he is an below average free throw shooter.
I've seen better athletes, playmakers, clutchers, shooters, dunkers, passers and defenders, but none with the full package at this level..he was the most complete player in history...and a gentleman while being so.
Jordan got fouled a lot. He could finish through contact. He never flopped. He was much better than the best of today. And I was never a bulls fan. I just see this as fact.
I am happy to say that I was lucky enough to have watched the greatest basketball player ever to play the game ...Back then the tough in your face no open game was more difficult to play in than today's open no touchy in your face at all game .Jordan was not to just play basketball he was out their to destroy you ...He was out to beat you down and expose every player in the league no wonder they called him...Black Jesus . No one in today's game is even close ..No one
Here's the thing even without the existence of social media & the internet back in his era Jordan was internationally famous even to non basketball fans. He was a global cultural phenom. Also if Jordan can dunk on 7"4" Mark Eaton who was build like the great Wall of China & 7"7" Manute Bol, I don't think he would have a problem posturizing any center today seeing as he posturized 7 of the top ten shot blockers in NBA history multiple times.
I stood next to Mark Eaton once, I'm 6'3 220 and I was staring into his chest and he was easily twice as wide as me. He was gigantic and mean. Going down the lane with him and Karl Malone waiting made some people nervous. Not Jordan but some.
MJ regularly dunk on/over 7ft bigs back when every team had a big and you were allowed to camp under the basket...MJ would do everything you saw in that video and MORE to today's no-touch, give-me-space, no hand-checking, lets-all-be-friends league...he would also have them out of their game and on the bench with their feelings hurt with trash talk...this was not a "player"...this was a killer who accepted nothing less than absolute dominance. Btw, when you talk and/or look away from the screen, you miss several highlights...if you are going to watch it, actually watch it :/ right after his eyes-shut free throw you paused it right when he jumped completely over someone...
Back then players were expected to play defense and contest shots. If they didn’t they were getting pulled from the game and yelled at by their coach. There used to be accountability
I don't understand the he's my GOAT statement. His basketball skills are not top 5. He's just an offensive foul waiting to happen if they were to call the game as it was intended.
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I subbed cause I can't help but respect your takes on everything. No pettiness , no putting anyone down. Just a straight bball opinion that's super respectable. I'm a MJ guy but just like you said . if all i saw was lebron than i'd have a hard time saying anyone was better. Keep up the excellent content.
Some people just don't understand the difference between "my fav. player" and "the GOAT".
THANK YOU!!!!!!
Facts🙏🏾
Damn skippy!
True
Problem is favorite player thinks he’s the goat and the the real goat never claimed. So it’s self proclaimed LeBron and People proclaimed Jordan. Big difference.
Funny you should say Michael Jordan would be everywhere because of social media. He was a worldwide celebrity in the 90s without social media. There's a reason why the NBA has all these brand sponsorships today. MJ did that.
EXACTLY!
Here let me simplify. Go watch Space Jam, now go watch Space Jam 2 🤣
Brilliant!
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1998 championship against the jazz. 29 million TV per game. Last year's finals averaged 5 million tvs.. per game. The experience of watching basketball as entertainment has fallen dramatically.
@@stevezrofsky8577 The NBA sucks today. The basic fundamentals are nonexistent; things like defense...
Why did they jump with Jordan, because players took pride in defense and wanted to stop him. Also there were great leapers and athletes in the 80s, 90s, and 00s. Jordan was a freak of an athlete. Thirdly, it's hard to seriously say players are more skilled now, when they are allowed to travel, carry the ball, and don't have to deal with handchecking, in a league that promotes offense.
Yup. When i heard i was like, umm its their job to stop him. Those big men back in the day didnt care about being posterized. To them it's more embarrassing to not jump and challenge the dunk or just take a charge.
Only kids today would advocate "not jumping" with someone. In other words, they're afraid of being dunked on, so simply don't try.
Old heads weren't made like that.
Pretty sure it's in every NBA player's contract, right down the bottom amongst the fine print you can hardly read, "DON'T INJURE LEBRON OR YOU WILL BE TERMINATED!" 🤣
@@republicofcasuals Too bad I couldn't infinity thumb up on this comment!
@@fromthebay6681 🤣👍
You grew up at Lebron era, people who grew up with Michael Jordan and witnessed also Lebron, they all will tell you that there is no comparison and it''s not even a debate. MJ was on another Level.
People that grew up watching Jordan and also saw LeBron will say Kobe is No 2. I put LeBron in the Magic Johnson, Shaq, Bird, Kareem, Iverson, KD, Curry type of category 😁
Good call, LeBron is a great for sure. But second tier all day.
I think the real reason this "debate" started was him claiming himself to be the best on camera. He isn't MJ in any universe. An I'd take Kobe, Bird an Magic over him.@@republicofcasuals
My opinion - I grew up in the 70's-80's.
Jordan is the best player I ever saw, but its paper thin over Bird (and I hated the Celtics) Some dont realize how great Bird was.
Anyway.....Jordan, Bird, Magic Kobe, Kareem, Shaq, Wilt, etc.
Lebron is great but hard to put him in that group for me. An era where defense is not allowed makes it impossible to take him over anyone where hard physical hard defense was allowed. Lebron lacks the killer instinct and the heart that the above mentioned had. We have seen him quit on the court...........and oh the flopping.....please make it stop.
Put this way........an era that celebrates James Harden as a great player......that is enough said for me.
@@paulyp9853 Welllllll... For the most part i agree about LeBron half hearting it, but i will push back (a little lol) in that James Harden as much of low energy player he portrays, he did lead the NBA in scoring for 3 years in a row and has been in the 10 ten scorers list, even top 5 scorers for almost all of his career. So, i get what you're saying, but James Harden at the end of the day is a great player like say Allen Iverson, Kevin Garnett were compared to Kobe. Not top tier with Jordan, Kobe, Bird, Magic etc... but i would put James Harden career alongside Steph Curry, Kevin Durrant, LeBron James, Giannis ack... (no idea how to spell his name hehe) and Joel Embiid types 😁
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I do not believe he is a great player. He is a scorer for sure, but he is allergic to defense.
I do not gauge a players career by championships usually, but in the NBA the player has much more of an impact of the team and the game than any other sport.
With that said this great player has none.
I just dont consider him a great player. The fact that some may is a reflection on the state of the NBA.
U know what..when you look at MJ highlights and still be amazed after 30+ years every single time...that tells you something
Facts he was different
Exactly. People are not going to be looking at Lebron highlights in 30+ years. They don't even look at them now. He hasn't even had any worth looking at in over a decade 😂.
@@tonymenino279Now just imagine Lebron in the video. MJ would be doing the same shit, just insert LeBron in there being absolutely posterized like everyone else.
Amen! I don’t understand the debate.
I have watched this video about 20,30 times and most of the other Jordan highlight videos many times over. It is amazing how I still can't believe my eyes every fucking time!!! There will never be Lebron highlight videos like this ever.
I’m an 80’s kid. People don’t understand the phenomenon Jordan was. People that didn’t even like basketball would cancel plans or go to game parties to watch Jordan play. And that was mid season, not even the playoffs or finals. It was unlike anything I’ve ever experienced.
I'm with you on Jordan (I live about 15 minutes from UNC campus). What a great era for sport fans.
Imagine what what Bo Jackson would have accomplished if he hadn't destroyed his hip.
We had the privilege of watching 2 men that defied logic, plus Mike Tyson.
I've played basketball and i have never once heard anyone scream "LeBron" when going in... "KOBE" for sure. Tongue hanging out like Jordan, all the time. Breaking ankles like Iverson. Dunking like Vince Carter, but i honestly never seen a LeBron inspired play...
Dude, MJ was the only athlete to make thousands of israeli fans wake up 3AM to watch the playoffs. The next player to do it was kobe. but not at the same numbers. After He retired many stopped watching live games. The GOD of basketball and the most perfect athlete the world has ever seen. NO one and i mean NO ONE come close to what MJ did for basketball and winning mentality in general.
pure greatness goat jordan
Yes, I also watched his games from 2 AM to 5AM :)
MJ retired and ratings took a dump in 94&95..he retired in 98 the ratings dropped..he retired from the wizards and they dropped again so Stern finally made significant game changes in the rules etc
I don't see how anyone could argue that LeBron is the goat, he's not even in the top 3. MJ had that killer instinct, the definition of clutch when it counted and he played insane defense.
@@xXDiGiTaLBaThXx exactly jordan is the greatest goat ever
Jordan took pride in playing 82 games a year. He didn't flop or cry to the reffs
Thank you
Thank You! The flopping to me is disgusting. 😂 I be like man get your big a** up. 😂
😂... GOATs cry and whine... right?... right?
I grew in chicago watching mike live..the thing nobody knows is when mike played crime was down 70% cause everybody was in the house watching mike..true story
That’s actually kinda insane
yeah i could see that cause when we had dwight gooden in nyc is was must see even though b ball was my sport i could see why and you are very lucky to have had that experience
Grew up on the west side off division. My uncle was in the house when MJ came on wgn. lol crime was definitely down on god
I’m from Minnesota I was big Mike and bulls fan back then I miss them days
What people don't know is after the switch layup was done that was his 13th fg in a row. 13 straight buckets not points. GOAT
And that was game 2 of the '91 finals which he started feeding his team mates dimes until it was time to take over and finish off the Lakers! For a guy that "is not a good passer" or "doesn't pass" depending on the talking head's bs narrative, to finish the game with 30+ points and 12 assists I think should tell you enough of what you've been fed by the msm! And to add a bit more context: throughout that series MJ ended up again with 30+ppg and 11.4 assists per game just an assist shy of Magic's 12.4 apg! Let that sink in for a while...
Its still a Finals record to this day.
People always get the context of MJ shooting and making all those 3's in a row in the finals against Clyde Drexler snd the Trailblazers wrong. Even the announcer got it wrong. He wasn't surprised he was making them. There was an article that came out in Portland that said to beat the Bulls, the Trailblazers would need to keep Jordan out of the lane and force him to hit the three. Before that game, there was an interview with Jordan and the interviewer mentioned the article and asked why he didn't shoot more 3's. Jordan said that he just never wanted or needed to. That wasn't the game he wanted to play. (If you were around back then and playing basketball on neighborhood courts in NY, then you understand this completely. We use to call people that never took it inside but just shot from the outside playing p**sy ball*. Men took it inside and scored AGAINST the contact. They didn't run from it or try to shoot further and further away from it. Jordan was born in Brooklyn. He may have grown up mostly in NC but he always said his style of play was NY. ). So shooting and making all those 3's in a row (that broke the finals record at that time) was him just making a statement about it. The "shrug" was NOT surprise. It was more like, "Well I guess that strategy isn't going to work! Or...see I told ya!".
BTW - I would put that Drexler team that the Bulls beat in the finals up against any of these teams today and be confident they would dominate them. Teams today are guards and a cast of players all playing like small forwards........none of which play defense.
MJ and Magic had dinner the night before and MJ told him watch what I do tomorrow and MJ came out for warmups and shot almost ALL 3’s and people were wondering if he was injured cuz he NEVER shot 3’s in practice like that..well you see what a 50+% midrange shooter and a 84% free throw shooter can do if he wanted to
@@mannyneva1760 This is the correct story. Also that shrug was to magic who was in the stands. It was not shock, but a see, I told ya.
and also MJ drew a lot of fouls letting him go to the free throw line, which was just as deadly as he was shooting just over 83% that spot.
@@donhimmelman1736 Imagine nowadays? He'd double if not nearly triple his FT totals a game.
MJ was the Terminator and had the league, SHOOK! I'm 40 and the next best thing I saw close to MJ, was Kobe. Both were killers and fundamentally, skilled players. Their footwork was crazy and they were obsessed with winning. There are a lot of good and great players playing today but, none of them has that ruthless and relentless attituded both MJ and Kobe had. They were great on both sides of the ball. Guys like Giannis shows glimpses of that killer instinct and plays both sides of the ball which, is enjoyable and rare to see today.
Great comment. I grew up in what I would call mostly the MJ era -- caught a lil' Magic / Bird but I was young when they were at their greatest peaks. And I saw Kobe play -- but by the the time he was winning chips I was in grad school so I didn't have as much time to watch as I did for MJ (and also I am a EC gal, but can appreciate greatness wherever it may be). But yes to all of your comment -- Giannis is lacking a little in outside shooting efficiency which the analysts NEVER forget to mention LOL, but they change it into saying he doesn't have "a bag"? I feel like we aren't even talking the same language of basketball these days -- Giannis isn't a great outside shooter, but so are plenty of other dudes I could mention even HoF level past and present we won't mention, but they ignore the 10+ other really important contributions of team sport he has to helping his team win? Either way, I will take watching a hard-working and productive Giannis play today on both ends of the court with his hustle and heart and constant willingness to train and improve every year over the "only offense even if it takes flopping and manipuplating the refs" players and players who cherry pick or give up when it gets tough.
And to give a little nuance -- bad reffing and bad rules aren't entirely on the players. I get it. And I also get why owners and players alike would want to get rid of not just the bad boy era injurious play, as well as the insidious play of the Karl Malone elbows that could hospitalize players or the underhanded foot sweeps of many others that persisted for a long time. But holy crap, now it's gotten to the point where if you celebrate a dunk, breathe on a player from a foot away and he misses a shot/ and or a player does something clumsy or embarrasing in your proximity, or smile at a ref you're getting some kind of technical. It's sucking all the air out of the game. I'm getting to the point where I can hardly watch a game these days even with players I like.
@@Tcheera Yeah! The NBA has been watered down to the point that defense is a risky, relic of the past. Worst part about it is that this generation will crown players the goat, knowing they play only one side of the ball, play 2/3 or less of the season, and take shortcuts. Having a killer instinct isn't necessary and is ignored by fans because of how the game is pushed; marketing players who are lazy. It's sad that the players who actually, care don't get the recognition they deserve. The foreign players actually, play team ball and don't seem to care much about individual glory. They play their roles and are about winning as a team. Yet, they are either, ridiculed or ignored because they are "boring" to watch or, not helping with an agenda.
I'm 40 and I actually got to see MJ play in person when the Bulls came to "The Mark" in Moline, IL... it was a great game and I loved seeing him play in person, but I didn't get a chance to ask for an autograph from anyone
Because Kobe copied MJ. lol
@@Lbb789 Kobe took what worked for him, from MJ. Kobe couldn't palm the ball like MJ, so he couldn't do everything MJ did. MJ was more, gifted than Kobe. Kobe had to work very hard; some say, harder than MJ because he didn't have the natural gifts MJ had. When I was in the military, we watched a lot of training films. Marching, combat, first aid, etc., were some of the stuff we watched all the time. We were told, if you seek perfection, you have to find it 1st. Then, study and imitate it. Some of my best moments in life, happened, while I was imitating something I thought was great. I believe that's what Kobe was doing, while being taught by other great players. There's no shame in that.
The only thing lebron did better relative to his position is passing and playing longer. That is objectively the truth...
Michael Jordan doesn't have to be your favorite player. He's just better than your favorite player.
What really separates Michael Jordan from everyone else is his playoff performance is actually the highest statistical increase of any player ever, despite being the all time leader in regular season points per game
I always wondered why so many people don't know the difference between who's the "goat" and who their favorite player is. We like or dislike different players for different reasons but it doesn't mean we can't be objective when it comes to who's the better player. In almost every sports, my favorite player is not the GOAT, not even close in some cases 😅
Exactly. 41 ppg average on the biggest stage in the finals against the suns is but one example.
@@J24J41 back then would be like 55ppg in today's game
...dude, they will not get the difference. More tech dumber and lazier for information we have become.
@@seymourbutts563 more probably since every bucket attempt gets an "AND1" on top of it now for breathing on each other 🤣
MJ played in all 82 games 8x with Chicago and 1x with the Wizards at age 40…shooting over 42% from the field and averaging 22 pts per game while leading his team in points, rebounds assists, and steals…😎✌️🎤🔥
He also had 2 other seasons where he played 80, and 81 games, so in 11 seasons he only missed 3 games.
@@jackastor5265 that’s insane for any player to have that kind of durability, especially back then when defenses/defenders could basically pummel/rough-up the person with the ball…
@@stevenaleman7454 It is but way more players did it back then, not just Jordan. So you have to ask yourself what is going on with these guys in the NBA now that have better nutrition, better training room equipment, etc. but can't play more than 10-20 games without being injured and that is most of the league. It was last season, or the one before only 5 players in the entire league played all 82 games, these guys are incapable of playing even one season of basketball.
@@jackastor5265 that’s a great point/question…the same can be said about Major League Baseball players too, I think…doesn’t make sense to see players suffer so many injuries with all this technology and nutrition information available these days…🤫
The funny thing is you watch highlights and just think he's some athletic phenom that only dunked on cats. But MJ had an incredible mid range and post up game. He was so clutch and had a different level to his game. It's hard to fully comprehend how incredible MJ was unless you watch the games.
As a ROOKIE he said START FROM THE BOTTOM and WORK MY WAY UP and take on the CHALLENGE..not jump from TEAM to TEAM 😩😩
Huge difference in mental makeup compared to LeBron who came up entitled from day one, and therefore expected to succeed.
Mj came in with a chip on his shoulder to prove he was the best. His ability to self motivate kept him at the top
MJ is the greatest athlete in team sports history. No single player ever affected his team, his league, or his sport more. Michael actually changed the world… .
That being said, my generation is somewhat spoiled. We watched Tyson in his prime, Tiger in his prime, serena, Nolan Ryan, and also Lebron in his prime. We devalue Wilt the way today’s youth devalues MJ. Not completely, but just enough to put their generation’s best at no. 1 . If you really look into Wilts game, it’s impossible to put anyone above him. Averaged 50 for a season, scored 100 in a gave, presumably blocked more shots than any other player ever, never fouled out of a game, ran a 4.3 - 40, was a collegiate high jump champion, and had 10,000 + women… GOAT. He’s still holds numerous records.
I’d take Kareem, Hakeem, Kobe, Magic, bird, MJ, Wilt, and maybe even t-Mac and Karl Malone over Lebron .
this is why jordan is the greatest goat ever
That's a Fact thou, not even close this is not a debate at all, I leave in the Far East I'm Asia If you Think basketball is the best sport in my Country and second to the U,S as we Founded basketball if I'm not mistaken 1935 when first American sailor bring the SPORT in our country but since the basketball is Growing faster as a 1 sports in Asia as a fan of the bulls and the Lakers may I say Jordan is the most influential person who walk in this planet and there a reason for that, you know how expensive his pair of shoes? And a got 7 pair of that shoes.
The thing no one ever mentions about this mixtape, is that these highlights are almost exclusively from his playoff runs with a few regular season games thrown in. There are highlights from maybe 50 or 60 games total, with multiple jaw dropping clips from each game. But MJ played over a thousand games in the league. He was just as spectacular on a random ass Tuesday as he was in a Game 6 elimination. A true mixtape would be hours long.
Great reaction youngster. I commend you for not being bias and saying ignorant $#!@ like "Bron can do that" after MJ does some nasty move like most Bron ignorant superman lovers. Nothing wrong with Bron being your GOAT. I'm in my mid-50s and fell in love with the sport in Magic's rookie season (1979). He's my favorite player all-time. But without hesitation I proclaim MJ to be the GOAT. I saw him ball in person a few times and what my 20/20 vision witnessed was like nothing it had seen before or after him. That bounce and hang-time aka aerial anarchy made Rodan extremely envious. He was also so creative. Just pure artistry.
Great point on him abusing and dunking on all in today's Monistat moist vaginal NBA. MJ was dippin' on the greatest defensive bigs all-time (Hakeem, David Robinson, Mourning, Mutumbo, Ewing, Eaton, Parish, Rollins). I strongly doubt that Wemby or Greek Freak would be able to deter him from putting them on posters. Those that never saw him in person just have no clue how quick he was able to get off the ground. Before you knew it he was already airborne. And that's the reason he was dubbed black cat.
Those that claim MJ would be just another DeRozan in today's soft as Vagisil yeast infection ointment league are infinitely ignorant. Kobe was much superior than DeMar and MJ was Kobe on PEDs. And I like DeRozan - he's a Southern Cali cat like myself. But compared to MJ he's a Dahmer after supper cadaver.
I’m 27, and MJ is the GOAT!
He would have a field day in this era. Like you said, he got off the ground so quickly off 1 leg or 2 leg jumps. No 7 footers today would have any better luck than the 7 footers that MJ faced (they were better).
I’ve always said - if Luka Doncic is averaging 33-8-9… and Russell Westbrook was averaging a triple double… wtf is Michael Jeffrey Jordan doing?
Scary.
Appreciate the support man. We don’t disrespect legends on this channel don’t worry
Any body who ever saw Michael Jordan play, knows he would score 55 a night with his eyes closed in today's NBA, between the lack of defense and the new shot clock rules, and no big man, it would not be fair. We know, trust us we know Lebron ain't no Michael Jordan, but he is good. If I am starting a team I am going MJ, Kobe, then Lebron.
This is the reason why MJ will always be the greatest. 1. I never saw Jordan ask for his f’’’’’’’’’’ing respect.2. I’ve never seen the audience Bullying MJ in their own home.3. I never saw MJ looking for a referee to ask to take out a fan who paid for her ticket. 4.I never saw MJ fight a woman for mocking his game. 5. I never saw MJ score 8 points in a finals. 6. I’ve never seen MJ get swept in the finals. 7. I never saw MJ Lose in a finals. 8. I never saw MJ lose to an inferior team in the playoffs. 9. I’ve never seen MJ lose in an olympics. 10. I never saw MJ play on super team and not make the playoffs. 11. I never saw MJ rest off season he always tried to play every game. 12. I never saw MJ proclaim himself the greatest of all time. So you tell me who is the greatest.
What the clip doesn’t show is that the higher pressure the situation, the better he got.
Lebum can’t hold a candle to Jordan’s greatness.
He dunked on Dikembe Mutombo and yes, towards the end of his career, his knees were always being iced!
I'm Italian and even my dad and my mom, who didn't care about ANY sports, knew who MJ was. And I never talked about him with them.
Everybody knew who he was.
He didn't need social media.
I'm 52, I love basketball, but I'm still waiting for a player who can do things better than him...
No one has a better vertical, a better killer instinct, a better record in the playoffs and most of all in the finals. I'm even pissed off because there's no professional dude who can jump BEHIND the free throw line (NOT a finger, and please, with DRIBBLES), and this is a shame... more than 30 years. Come on.
A basketball fan like me wants to watch an improvement: "There won't ever be another Jordan" is a stupid statement: I immediately WANTED to see someone better than him, when he retired. And I was SURE about that...
Phenomenal players, but not MJ.
Still pissed off.
(I was a Celtics and Lakers supporter, in the 80s. Then, a Pistons supporter. No biased sh*t.)
You nailed it when you said 'Jordan played in a tough era'.
Physically it was brutal. Until halfway through Jordan's career, it was OK to physically hammer guys every time they approached the paint. Just ask the Pistons.
The harder it got, the higher he went through the gears. The dude was ferocious.
I don't think LeBron has the stone cold killer instinct to WANT to dominate in every single aspect of the game like MJ did.
And nobody who ever grew up watching MJ ever says LeBron is the GOAT, yet they saw LeBron play too....
I think the term goat has become synonomous with favorite. There's a G.O.A.T. and there's your favorite. They can be 2 different people.
Michael said, "Hey Mutombo, this is for you, baby." That's not oldhead speech, you can hear that today in 2024!
MJ has giant hands!
It was just the way he said it, not the words he used. But I get what u mean
MJ is the GOAT and it’s not even close. I have no idea why kids today say the NBA is more talented today. Todays players are half as talented because almost non of them play defense. 80s and 90s what the most complete and talented basketball ever played.
I’d argue defence is 90% effort rather than talent
There’s no way Wemby would block Jordan. Today’s centers are thin compared to the centers and power forwards in the 90’s. Shaq, Mourning, Olajuwon, Ewing, Laimbeer, Malone, Mutumbo.
You don't have to apologize but the difference is we used to see and appreciate the eras before. It didn't matter that we grew up watching Jordan. We appreciated basketball and the history of the game. You sittin here worried about the man's hair
Well tbf he really doesn’t have any 🤷🏾♂️ and if that’s all u took from the reaction then I must’ve done a bad job I guess
Damar DeRozan whaattt dude banged in half court sets taking one to no steps. He just jumps and hangs on the air wait for defenders to come down while he thripple pumps and this happens all night long. Players usually have one good highlight a month or year not all game.
The difference between today and back in, is back then you can play defense and in today basketball you getting called for a foul so much you can’t even played defense in today’s basketball. That’s why it looks like talent is so much better today and plus back Then the players don’t even care about shooting threes as much as they do today.
Mike was dunking on Pat Ewing and he was like 7’3 I don’t think Giannis or Wemby would have blocked him
He won 3 retires then wins 3 more in a row
13:40 - MJ didn't *need* social media. He *was* EVERYWHERE because he was just that damn good, that damn driven, that damn smart, and that damn inspiring. NBA, Olympics, Nike, Gatorade, Coke, McDonald's, Wheaties, Hanes, Space Jam movie, Michael Jackson's "Jam" music video, Teknoe's "(I Wanna Be) Like Mike" song, Prostars animated series, Saturday Night Live, PSA's, his own cologne, billboards, magazines covers, talk shows, etc...
Mike was everywhere without social media.. Mike Tyson too
I tell people this all the time. Look at how much lebron gets posted. Now imagine if Mike played today, no other players would get screen time 😂
@@bthomas518 I'm pretty sure even most Kobe's are worth more than LeBron's. Me, I just got a pair of Curry's and still rock some old school size US15 Kevin Garnets 😁
He would've dunked on Giannis and Wembanyama they're no different than any other center MJ banged on...imo
Lebron is able to go to the paint for a dunk or a lay-up, and can pass the ball, shoked a bunch of times, and build teams around superstars, which I didn't like Bron doing that, todays game is 0 defense, a week ago in 5 games, 8 teams dropped more than 130 points, 7 of them 140 points.
MJ was able to do whatever he wanted in a bigger size and more defensive era, where Centers camped under the rim, a flagrant foul, was a regular foul, and he was 50% shooter mid range and in clutch time, and you just watched shooting, dunking and lay-ups over 3-4 people defenders constantly. Also, he was more effective than any player in history. If you watch a whole MJ regular game, you gonna see he constantly scores on people with only 1 or 2 dribbles or even in less than 3 seconds, MJ was fast, consistent, efficient, and agile. I suggest you to watch a whole game, so you see the difference. Also, MJ accomplished more in less time. I'm a Bron fan, also MJ fan, I watched both playing, I'm 40, so I have watched more Bron games than MJ. MJ THE GOAT 🐐
But besides everything, it was great video. Good job.
Jordan would cook todays game without breaking a sweat, even in his wizards years
All that crazy dribbling and NO TRAVELING!! Imagine the ball handling skills you need to have. Nowadays everyone just walking and traveling and never getting called. Skill level has gone down over the years!
I'm Lebron fan since he is 16yo, I'm 39 like Bron, I have watched MJ since 91 and up, and Lebron whole career. Lebron slack in a lot of stuff in comparison vs MJ. Lebron couldn't make a shot out of 3ft from the basket, averaged 35%, great longevity, but choked a lot of times, and joined teams with 2 superstars and a bunch of great role players, and has been dominated by a bunch of teams and players. Dallas the underdog beat the Heats, champs 4-10, and great total carreer stats. But not like MJ 3peat twice, for an 6-0. MJ was a killer, slasher, cold blood, competitive, offensively and defensively great, clutch, dominated the NBA, Accomplished more in less time, averaged stats are better than Bron in regular season, go see playoffs, MJ stats are insane. When you collected all the info, Lebron can be anyone favorite player. But MJ is the #1, Bron is #2.
And the title picture remains the most iconic NBA photo of all time. Just beautiful!
You Youngblood just don't understand how phenomenal MJ was...
He was UNSTOPPABLE!!!!!
Offensive AND defensive.
The accolades of this MJs accomplished still haven't been broken yet.
He shook up the ENTIRE NBA.....for years.....and y'all still want to cling to a 4-6 LeBron James. He's no goat, but maybe the "Billy goat" compared to MJ.
There will never be another player quite like him....not in my life time.
...and if there is...he has some big, ass freaking shoes to fill.
You Youngblood that didn't get the chance to see MJ soar and excel, missed a cllinic....on the ENTIRE NBA.
He posterized everybody...as a 6'6 guard.
Who's doing that in today's NBA?
NOBODY....
The 80s and 90s was a time when they still played Basketball instead of just seeing who can shoot more 3 pointers. Defense meant JUST as much as Offense, don't confuse skill with having the freedom on offense to shoot without wondering if your gonna drive to the paint and get physically hurt. as well as the game has change to make the game into a 3 point contest for more fast paced excitement. I cant tell you how many people call me a jordan lover or fan boy when I HATED Jordan back in the day as a kid. EVERYBODY loved MJ and I was a Big Seattle Supersonics and Indiana Pacers fan growing up in Hicksville. As an adult I can appreciate just how much better MJ was then anyone else.
In his 2nd year, Larry legend called him "God". Nuff said.
MJ 🐐 🙏🏾
MJ THE 🐐
Lightning fast first step, quick pullup, shifty, efficient dribbling, insane stamina and intensity, high flyer, one of the best layup and in-game dunk package, clutch, one of the best post-up game, and that deadly fadeaway. All of these being done beautifully like poetry in motion.
Much respect for your review! You showed recognition to the greatest player ever but honored your hero. I give respect to Lebron for his talent and longevity. But when it comes to pure dominance on the court, and the goat debate, Lebron doesn’t make my top 5. You say today’s NBA is more talented, I will agree. But it is also lazy and weak. These guys played hard and tough. Much more contact with blood and heart. Athleticism, today has it. But the heart and physical toughness just isn’t there.
We watched Michael to see how he would win, we watch LeBron to see if he loses.
Real Talk !
MJ has no equal. He can do it all...from any position, including free throws. His athleticism has no equal in this game before or since. Prime MJ can run circle around Lebron.
If you're a 80s baby Jordan basically introduced us to basketball. I vividly remember sitting down with my champion bulls jersey watching Mike. Watching Mike live was a different experience. You had to be alive back then to truly understand how big of a star Mike was. And the shoes don't get me started on the shoes
Everybody that watched Jordan in the 80's and 90's know exactly what we watched. All you youngbloods saying nobody knows what we just watched makes me laugh. You youngbloods are experiencing for the first time what we saw on a daily with MJ playing basketball.
Young man, you killed me with that 'double ankle breaker to a poster' line!!!!😂😂😂😂😂
The Social Media question is interesting. I would say it would be closer to Messi or Ranoldo level than current NBA stars. He was just as much of a World star as an American star.
Lebron is great, there’s absolutely no doubt. But the GOAT is MJ, and it isn’t close.
In today's NBA Michael would average 60 Just based on how free he could enter the paint compared to the legal hacks back then he'd shoot 40 at the free throw every night
That’s probably true, but we’ll never know
Here are the facts and anyone who disagrees doesn't know basketball..
1. MJ is the goat for many reasons, even 2 decades later his impact and legacy is still being felt on the game of basketball..
2. First 3peat far better than the 2nd 3peat imo..
3. 2nd 3peat as amazing as it was that bulls team 96-98 was unfair as the bulls should have lost alot more games than they did but the fact they had 4 ELITE defensive players on the 1 team was just purely and totally unfair to the rest of the league.. facts 💯 Rodman Pippin Harper MJ on the floor together you are completely screwed and good luck scoring
4. Rules MJ had to play under in the 80s and 90s completely different from today's cupcake era. Buckets weren't given for free they were earned.. Had to be creative to get ya buckets..
5. MJ version of 86 to 93 would average easily 45 PPG in today's era but MJ 96 to 98 35 to 40 PPG..
IF your gonna have a debate you have to clarify which version MJ you talking about..
MJs THE G.O.A.T. END OF STORY
Coming from an era that watched Jordan live on TV, Knicks fan, you said something very true. If we speak in general, the talent in today's game is much better. The biggest issue for me are the rules. The rules won't allow them to play great defense. It's all about the offense and for me that takes away from the game. The reason why people say that Jordan would average 50 a game nowadays. For me it's not about the talent but the rules holding bacv this generation.
The crazy thing is that he was everywhere without social media, Jordan was famous worldwide if you wasn't there, you'll never understand it ,Jordan was truly must see tv ,every night you saw something amazing...
It's hard for anyone to put someone who they never grew up watching, ahead of their favorite player.
Kareem's resume is impressive, but I never watched him play. I grew up watching MJ.
Reason why he's dunking on everyone is because like Amare, they get off the ground so much faster than anyone else. Everyone else still needs a proper load up
definitely...the explosiveness of his jump is as important as his jump height...he simply got up quicker and THEN higher than anyone else...he could jump after a defender and still beat him to the top of the shot for a block...absolutely amazing athlete
There's a difference between today's because and yesterday's basketball and there's a reason why MJ is the GOAT, but this generation it just flys over there head.
"This man would have been everywhere 24-7" 😂.....if only you had seen it. He was everywhere in a way that isn't even possible today. Only a few media sources, he was on all of them, all the time, everywhere in the world. People who didn't even know what the NBA was knew Michael
One thing also is this entire reel was like almost every night. That’s why the end of this video shows the progression or lack thereof by other teams. With exception of his outside shot, he was getting people from day 1 till the last day with the same movies and people couldn’t stop it.
I got to watch MJ's career. This was every night. You also have to understand, these 'plumbers' as some young heads call them, were still crazy athletic. It's just a flash highlight but MJ dunks on Orlando Woolridge. Woolridge still holds the Bulls bench and deadlift records. The game MJ scored 63 against the Celtics he had a 24/11 game with 4 blocks. They also had a vert competition and at 6'10' he put a sticker on the backboard 4" below the top of the backboard. Dude was a beast that today's NBA wouldn't know what to do with. Ever hear of him? Probably not. Says a lot about the 90's NBA.
Very few today's players would last long in the 80s & early 90s era
Todays era is not more talented than the 90s. Todays Players can't even score without taking 5 steps and palming the ball. It's like someone set the NBA difficulty slider to rookie.
You take the 12 best players of today and match them up against the 12 best of the 90s and the 90s has the advantage at every position except maybe SF and even there the 90s has the advantage defensively
Being a 90s kid, every. Single. Day. There would be some crazy ridiculous highlight from Jordan in whatever game he played. Literally stuff only he was able to do. Kids today will never get it because they weren't alive to experience it.
10 scoring titles 9 time All defensive player of the year 1 time DPOTY! 6 titles 6 finals MVP and avg. 40+ in the playoffs! The GOAT
As an oldhead i am not concerned with converting a Lebron fan because it is very hard to convince someone away from their Era. i just appreciate the knowledge and respect that the younger generation has for the old school players. this content creator obviously has that appreciation for the game. changing your stance on Lebron is not necessary. Good response sir.
You right. The talent is higher now than before. But the defense now is trash compared to then.
Bro ask why jump with MJ, that's the difference in the league between then and now. Defense! They knew who he was but still went at him, players just let guys do what they want, they just move out of the way.
I agree that effort on defence is lacking nowadays, but at the same time there have been so many rule changes that make it harder to play physical defence
Jordan was a big guy. All muscle, all power. 6"6 and 225. The same size Lennox Lewis fought at. 48 inch vertical. He could done well in the Olympics if he did track and field
One season Jordan was MVP and Defensive player of the year!
Today is not more talented. It only seems that way because of rule changes and it being less physical.
Due to flopping, foul calls, lack of defense, and less physical play, players score more. Making it seem ultra talented. But it isn't at all. Alot of these players would truly struggle back then.
And on the other side, the players then would excel today because of what more they could do. Young people fail to realize.
Lebron shoots under 40% outside of a layup..he’s not as efficient as people think and that’s why he doesn’t take the last shot or hit them more often
Another funny thing kids hear and say.. Nobody could jump with him... just as many athletes back then as now... Only differents now to then is rules and the different horse for different courses..... Pace and space... Nobody got hit with Ninja turtle ozze and turned into better athlete... This league now is the smallest in height and weight going back 40 years.. That is why you have so many more 3 point shooters and less Bigs.. Then when you go overseas and play by their rules which is more like 2000 rules you see we can't compete on the block in the post, rebounding, or rim protection and if you don't hit your threes even with NBA players you will lose to teams less talented because they are not used to that kind of play..
The God in sneakers! Nobody's even near this man SPECIALLY when you consider his efficiency and playing both sides of the ball even up until his 40 😉Unlike someone else who's been resting on defense in past 5 yrs and his team has to pay for it sadly. There's Jordan.. then there are everyone else. Great reaction man👍 We need more Lefans like you
He was everywhere, all the time, long before social. Anyway it's kind of hard to imagine MJ thinking "Oh let me go do my Twitter now".
The thing is, his highlight video could be 8 hours long. He did this stuff every night. He didn’t take nights off. You could pick any random game to watch and there would be multiple times where he did things that nobody else in the world could do. Today, you can see one guy that could do one of the things MJ did and a different guy do another thing that MJ could do but nobody can do all of the things that Jordan did
The only thing that Lebron was better than MJ was longevity and that’s cause he plays in the pussy era of the NBA. When MJ played they would beat on that man like he stole something. Lebron can’t play no defense and MJ didn’t have to go to other teams with a stack team, MJ made the team he had better. If MJ was playing todays game he would average 50.
Pretty valid reaction. I can agree with most of what you said. Today the young people just love Lebron. What Lebron fans gotta realize when you're talking about players nowadays are more talented, you have to understand what that actually is. Nowadays players are more talented offensively is how I see it. When it comes to defense, everyone knows defense was way more tough back in the day due to hand check. Michael won defensive player of the year many times .The defense in today's game is very sensitive. Michael Jordan was getting ate up in the paint and he still executed. Can't ever be done again. He's the true Goat in my opinion. Btw you missed quite a few good plays I was wanting you to catch. Couple times you were looking at your phone I think and looking into the camera when you spoke without pausing. You pretty much gave MJ his flowers tho, although many don't.
Yeah sorry, I got a couple of important messages at a bad time 😂
Love your reaction, but i have to disagree about the more talent in today's NBA. I can list so many legends from that same time, all legends. It would take me too long to type. Plus it was a rougher era. The Jordan Rule alone, ppl beat uip on him to stop him. The Pistons to be exact. He was greatness, like Barry Sanders, Mike Tyson and Ali. GOAT
They only seem more talented nowadays because the officiating has loosened up so much. Back in those days, no traveling, carrying, etc. Much cleaner.
Everyone is trying to day, LeBron is the goat. I would love to go back in time and put LeBron playing then. He wouldn't be able to handle it. not just Jordan but all the players back then. the pistons were vicious. the used to beat Michael Jordan up. but they still couldn't stop him. LeBron would get a beat down period!!!! Michael stayed with one team. LeBron moves from team to team trying to play with better players. that's not a goat move.
LeBron my goat but obviously Jordans the greatest in his own respect
I think it is fine to like someone in the era you grew up in, but as someone who lived through Jordan era and current era it is no comparison. Today's NBA is not nearly as physical, teams hardly play defensive, and most teams rely on 3 pointers. LeBron is really good but his stats in clutch situations are poor, he lost more championship games then he won, and he is an below average free throw shooter.
I've seen better athletes, playmakers, clutchers, shooters, dunkers, passers and defenders, but none with the full package at this level..he was the most complete player in history...and a gentleman while being so.
Jordan got fouled a lot. He could finish through contact. He never flopped. He was much better than the best of today. And I was never a bulls fan. I just see this as fact.
I am happy to say that I was lucky enough to have watched the greatest basketball player ever to play the game ...Back then the tough in your face no open game was more difficult to play in than today's open no touchy in your face at all game .Jordan was not to just play basketball he was out their to destroy you ...He was out to beat you down and expose every player in the league no wonder they called him...Black Jesus . No one in today's game is even close ..No one
Here's the thing even without the existence of social media & the internet back in his era Jordan was internationally famous even to non basketball fans. He was a global cultural phenom. Also if Jordan can dunk on 7"4" Mark Eaton who was build like the great Wall of China & 7"7" Manute Bol, I don't think he would have a problem posturizing any center today seeing as he posturized 7 of the top ten shot blockers in NBA history multiple times.
I stood next to Mark Eaton once, I'm 6'3 220 and I was staring into his chest and he was easily twice as wide as me. He was gigantic and mean. Going down the lane with him and Karl Malone waiting made some people nervous. Not Jordan but some.
@@kobecheez I'm sure it did but like you said not Jordan or the Doctah who also posturized Eaton with an iconic dunk.
Name 3 pairs of sneakers you have right now. MJ brought this level of energy to EVERY game in EVERY arena. Let's not even mention stats.
MJ regularly dunk on/over 7ft bigs back when every team had a big and you were allowed to camp under the basket...MJ would do everything you saw in that video and MORE to today's no-touch, give-me-space, no hand-checking, lets-all-be-friends league...he would also have them out of their game and on the bench with their feelings hurt with trash talk...this was not a "player"...this was a killer who accepted nothing less than absolute dominance. Btw, when you talk and/or look away from the screen, you miss several highlights...if you are going to watch it, actually watch it :/ right after his eyes-shut free throw you paused it right when he jumped completely over someone...
Back then players were expected to play defense and contest shots. If they didn’t they were getting pulled from the game and yelled at by their coach. There used to be accountability
LOL - 40 yr. old Jordan with his post up, midrange and turn-around jumpshot packagewould be just like Demar... I will not argue that.
No one has ever been as good as Mike, before or since.
Skills are different MJ would terrorize this league and they inow they just talking out there ass
Not only was MJ the most athletic ever he was a killer mentally. Had it all and made it look east in such a physical era.
I don't understand the he's my GOAT statement. His basketball skills are not top 5. He's just an offensive foul waiting to happen if they were to call the game as it was intended.