This Tape Might END The G.O.A.T Debate! | Michael Jordan Historic Bulls Mixtape | Reaction
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There never was a goat debate. The media kept trying to push it over and over again but Jordan is way way way ahead in literally everything but playing longer
Lol I did a Larry Bird reaction and people seem to differ.
@@itsshadbiheh you’ll catch new fans who swear their guy is the guy. Love Bird and feel he doesn’t get enough respect, but MJ is the best player overall. That being said, along with Irving, MJ learned a lot from Bird as well.
You don't hear people complaining as much when thry bring up Bird vs Jordan is the Goat debate
@@itsshadbih Bird called him Jesus in basketball shoes
Somebody should make a video of LBJ claiming he is the goat while displaying the awesome accumulations of LeFlop, LeTravel, LeNowhere (e.g. inconsistent playoff/final performance 2011), & LeTired (e.g. resting defense) highlights XD
Jordan was the most athletic and had the most fundamentals rare to have both 48 inch vertical still best to this day😂😂😂😂
48 is crazy at "6 "6🤯
Don't forget he ran a 4.38 too 🤣🤣🤣
in his peak. cuz Bird probably had better fundamentals then Jordan. but Jordan is right there too
Teach sir💯😎
The special bond MJ has forged with basketball fans is that we always know he's going show up, play, and try his hardest to win. Adam Silver once said that MJ takes it as his responsibility to always play because he knows families would save up money to buy ticket and watch him. And those amazing highlights he delivered? That's what makes the ticket even more worth it.
Nobody understood the role of the modern athlete better than Michael Jordan.
I agree, u gotta physically and mentally ready everyday when you a icon like that. That should applauded itself.
Jordan played defence his whole career
Watching Jordan as a kid, we would be disappointed if Jordan had a GOOD game. Because we saw greatness so often that we expected it every time.
Adam Silver lol
@@alanburke1302 Well, between you and the NBA commissioner, who knows these players more?
During his first retirement they retired and 23:45 put his jersey in the rafters, but had to pay a fine for not getting permission to return to 23. Lebron wants to have the best players on his team, but Jordan made his teammates practice, play and think like Champions. Lebron wants to recruit the best players for teammates, but Jordan wants to BEAT the best players
In this soft era of load management and a lack of physicality on defense, Mike would DOMINATE. Imagine giving the man you just saw space to operate inside. Dropping him in this era would be like letting a rabid dog off his chain. He's the greatest athlete with the best fundamentals and an absolutely maniacal need to win at all costs. If you want to know how much of a freak of nature he was, go watch the guys he played with and against talk about him playing 36 holes of golf before a game, or staying up all night playing cards. And he still played all 82 games 9 of his 15 years. 48" vertical, HUGE hands, incredible strength, especially for his size. Mike had it all. And he was an assassin to boot. Lebron is amazing, but he will never be Mike. Maybe future generations won't regard him as the 🐐. But whether they do or not doesn't change the fact that he's the greatest player ever to lace them up. There will never be another
I respect that bro!
ABIG HUGE THANK YOU! Well said.....enough said. Bottom line.....THE END!!!!
@@itsshadbihsee how happy you felt watching the g.o.a.t.
@jasongalloway9582 If MJ was playing in this era it would depend on what team he played for. INSTEAD OF PLAYING WITH A COMPETENT TEAM e.g., OWNERSHIP, MANAGEMENT, COACHES AND PLAYERS LIKE GOLDEN STATE etc. HE PLAYED FOR THE CHARLOTTE HORNETS. He would get buckets 29 ppg on 32% shooting avg AND ZERO CHAMPIONSHIPS. I've always wondered what happened to his MANIACAL NEED TO WIN. He must've left it in Chicago because winning is something he hasn't done since leaving Chicago.
Jordan himself said he would struggle with zone defense...But never mind, I know delusional MJ stans don't even believe MJ if he says anything negative about himself. lol@MJ staying up all night gambling to go and be guarded by some guy who would be a towel boy in the current era.
My favorite Jordan moment…against the Jazz and Michael dunked on someone shorter (I think it was Stockton) and a fan yelled pick on someone your own size or something like that. The next time down the court MJ dunked on 7’4” Mark Eaton and said to the fan, was he big enough for you. True story.
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It wasn’t Eaton, it was Mel Turpin who was also a giant. But the rest of the story is accurate. He did dunk on Eaton a few times though
@linorestrepolobo3620 you are correct. I think MJ banged on everybody
MJ would do everything you saw in that video to everyone in the current no hand-checking, give me space, easy to score league...he scored regularly on/over 7ft bigs while taking punches, rib shots, elbows, shoulders, and full on tackles and STILL scored.. GOAT 🐐
I agree, defense is harder now!
@@itsshadbihdefense is not harder now you can zone..that’s the biggest lie being told
@@mannyneva1760 I'm speaking from the player perspective, in the 80s and 90s you could hand-check someone to help you from getting beat, now any little touch is foul. Its harder to play defense now because the rules favor offensive players.
@@itsshadbih the helped the defense by adding zone and 3 seconds, the game is easier on both ends
I actually think that’s why so many players are hitting threes at such a crazy clip. They’re able to get into a more comfortable rhythm nowadays due to not having to worry about those things.
His #23 was still retired and it was up in the Raptors. So he returned to #23 after some of the Magic players said #45 wasn’t as good as #23 , so MJ took it personal. He was and still is the G.O.A.T. 🐐
His jersey was in Toronto??? 😂
The thing with that is he was in Baseball shape and top heavy from batting for two years and he came back late in that season, so his legs weren't the same. Orlando took them out in the playoffs and was talking mad shit after that. I just smiled cause I just KNEW what was gonna happen the next season...but they won 3 straight titles and not just one. Blame that on Penny and Shaq for talking all that shit...and Nick anderson and Horace grant :)
His dad loved baseball, and after he was murdered Jordan needed some time. The media was already bad before that happened, he was a global icon, Nike, Gatorade, McDonalds... just to name a few companies he rep'd. #45 was his number playing baseball. The clip of him lying face down in the locker room was after the first championship after he returned, he was crying because his dad wasn't there.
It wasn't unnecessary move , He believed Sam Perkins was going to block the lay up so he anticipated the block and switched hands young fella.
i just don't know how people don't know that.. it was talked about by so many different people and Mikes interview itself. ItshadBih most likely seen that interview with the guy that said exactly what itshadbih said on this video. Do you remember who said that about that move? He most likely heard that saying about that move and just repeated it.
I don’t agree. He could’ve dunked it.too easily. He was putting on a show.
Doesn't matter if you agree that's the facts check out interviews at the time. Jordan confirms it and I was old enough to watch and remember the game live on television sooo yeah lol@@jaygordon8683
@jaygordon8683 the words came out of his mouth
That’s is true you must know how to ball to understand why Jordan switched hands
A few things:
A. Jordan played all 82 games 9 times including at 40 for the Wizards.
B. People talk about today’s athletes athleticism. Show me any other player ever who caught that many dunks on people’s heads body to body. Especially in a much more physical league. SHOW ME.
C. Show me another player with that offensive repertoire that would do these kinds of amazing moves every game. Dunk package footwork package ultra athletic finishes. Trick shot finishes. Mid range fade away. SHOW ME WHO.
D. Show me a player with that combined level of offensive and defensive mastery while being Uber clutch. Show me.
E. Jordan once got 10 triple doubles in 11 games when he moved to point guard for a bit. Averaged 11 assists in his first Finals. Jordan was a scorer as his primary role but could do it all.
F. People talking about the level of player then are ignorant it if they think Jordan wouldn’t dominate any era explain to me how a 39 year old Jordan with bad knees was going toe to toe with Kobe TMac Mcgrady etc on the Wizards. He was averaging 26ppg before he had to have knee surgery.
H. Show me another player who had to go through the bruising physical play of the Bad Boys Pistons and still prevailed. Especially a 6’6 220 pound shooting guard.
I want to see the other player in NBA history that consistently pulled off the insanity in this video - and you could literally make 10 more of these videos using different footage. This in no way captured anywhere near it all.
Luka is nowhere near the athlete or player prime Jordan was and look at what he’s doing. Jordan would destroy todays NBA and anyone who doesn’t think so either just blindly hates Jordan or is profoundly ignorant about the game. Those are the only two options.
"Jordan would destroy todays NBA and anyone who doesn’t think so either just blindly hates Jordan or is profoundly ignorant about the game"
You could have started with this and your post would have been 100% correct. The rest is simply dunking on them.
Facts over feelings, totally agree with your comments! MJ accomplished more in 13 full seasons (15 total) than anyone in NBA history and to be ranked #1 by his peers, retired legends, NBA executives, blue-ribbon panel of sports writers, reporters, columnists, journalists, and other media personnel, and legends of the WNBA for the NBA's 50th and 75th Anniversary Ceremonies speaks volumes...anyone watching this Bulls mixtape video can see for themselves just how relentless MJ was on offense and defense from game 1 to game 82, and throughout the playoffs and championships...load management was not in MJs vocabulary as he went all out every game, even when he was sick as a dog and could barely function...not enough adjectives to describe Michael Jordan's play on the court...👽💯💥✌
Facts. He would DOMINATE today's league.
You forgot the 38pts in the flu game against Utah.
@@nathanmckenzie904 This generation still has yet to produce a better athlete than Jordan AND Shawn kemp...and to be honest the Doc too.
Giannis is no where near their abilities, and if I thought about it there would be many more. hell, they still haven't produced a better athlete than Iverson at that size either. So when they start talking that shit I usually bounce. Oh yeah...Grant hill at 6'7 still had the quickest first step I ever seen before the ankle problems.
If this video doesn’t prove to the world that MJ was/is the best ever then nothing will !
Absolutely
This is why we say he would average 50 because they didn't call foul on that body to body in this era. Those are free throws also in this era. He would've shot way more free throws. On top of what he did.
I don't think defense is better now at all. It was so much more physical back then. Jordan is one of a kind. He was clutch, he played nearly every game. His layup package is second to no one. And don't forget, for all that he was on offense, he also won a defensive player of year award. I'm not even a Bulls fan on any level, and I'd put the 95-96 Bulls against any modern team any day of the week, and it's because of Jordan. And remember, he was never looking to change teams just to get a ring. He's unmatched.
I agree, I said it harder for the players to play D
To me today's defense is like an all-stars game defense when Jordan played.
It wasn't as physical as people make it out to be. Not for the most part anyway. Hand checking is literally bad defense. The defense was insane in some of those 2000s years. And yes I watched the 90s. Loved MJ but had to distance myself once I seen the bullshittery coming from his hardcore fans.
That play against the Lakers was his 13th FG in a row. He was feelin it
Crazy stat: In his last year with the Bulls, MJ averaged holding the ball for just 3 mins 45 seconds per game and still scored just a shade under 30. So each quarter he held the ball for just a little over 56 seconds. Crazy stuff.
Yo thats a crazy stat!
I was a teenager when the bulls win their first title. So I’ve seen many of the stars during the 90s till now. You have you’re stats then their is MJ. He’s in his own class. But the way he handled the ball is what made him different then everyone else. Every move he made he tried to make perfect. He wasn’t only a ball player but a entertainer. He did Thor’s moves when it wasn’t necessary for the eye effect for the fans. Just because he could. He was that good. And it was so much harder if a sport back then. But that ever sport now.
JOrdan has A LOT of respect for Bird, Magic, Wilt, Kareem. He would NEVER say he is BETTER than them.
The cool thing about watching Jordan was he was just as good every single game. You could pick basically any game and he just shit on everyone else lol.
When I came back, I didn't want to play in the last number that my father had seen me wear," Jordan wrote"Because he wasn't around, I thought of my return as a new beginning."Those Jordan 45 jerseys became collector's items because MJ reverted back to the No. 23 after just 23 games.. ............and He actually didn't copy anyone's game if you look at David Thompson or Dr. J their playing styles are totally Different I had the Privilege of seeing David Thompson , Dr.J and MJ play MJ was a straight killer on the court
Jordan apparently had the same FG% in the clutch as he did the rest of the game. Honestly thats one of the coldest low key stats i ever heard about him. Clutch.
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Hope they keep fighting for Bron when he loses next season, too (like he did this year). In the draft of life, we, the adults, trade him to the kids💯
The strays and shade he catches is crazy at his age
His jersey was retired after he retired the first time. Thats why he wore 45 for a while. Then when the Orlando magic said 45 is not the same as 23. He put the 23 back on despite having to pay a fine until the Bulls un retired the number the next yesr.
That was his baseball number When he played baseball as a kid.
I mean it was the finals, his 1st one and he had just made 12 straight of an eventual 13 straight buckets so I can’t blame him, he created the most memorable single moment in finals history with the spectacular move 💯🐐
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I loved this reaction. Clearly you have the historical knowledge. Lots of great references in your reaction. I just can’t see how anyone watches this and looks at the 6/6 finals and his career average and play offs average and think he isn’t number 1 on the mountain.
I preciate bro, I try not to lean so much on the 6/6 because bill russell was 11-1 in the finals, and its not like mj won the championship every year. I just try to be fair when making debates for a person being the best.
@itsshadbih I don't think that is the point. Bill Russell was not the number one player in stats or impact in every final they went to. Further, the pool of competitors was limited by race and other factors. Can we talk about the way the game was impacted by other factors that allowed that Boston team to get the talent they had and stay together? They had a monopoly on the league but that is just the way it was. But u will give that the same credit as other teams who did not have those benefits? I think it's disingenuous at best to say that those 11 chips are on par with other runs just because it's 11 without context. The same logic is used yo say because LeBron just "going" to 10 chips is just as good as winning them 🤦♂️. The power of suggestion the media has to subvert basic logic astounds me. The fact that MJ' TEAM went 6/6 was about 90% MJ by impact AND stats. 2 3pts, let that sink in.
@@HYB1111 you preaching
@@HYB1111 but why doesn't MJ get penalized for the seasons he didn't make the finals though is my question?
@@itsshadbih I'm pretty sure the goal is to WIN the finals???
Jordan had the 48 inch vertical and ran the 40 yard dash in 4.3 seconds
It wasn't an unnecessary move,as Jordan stated,he saw "long arm"(his words) Sam Perkins show,he thought he was gonna contest the dunk so he switched ball to his left. Perkins never jumped,but as Jordan got in the lane,Perkins did show. It looked unnecessary after play happened bc Perkins never jumped,but instinctively it was necessary
When he retired to play Baseball, his #23 Jersey was retired, so when he came back
he had to wear 45 until 23 was unretired
You should check out
Jordan VS LeBron Great Goat Debate
He wore 45 because thats the number he had in baseball…He didn’t want to wear 23 because that was the last number his dad seen him play in before he got killed…
I think he only played with 45 for like 25 games he changed to 23 in the playoffs ..When he came out of retirement I think it was 20 games left before the playoffs
I meant Best Goat Comparison
That might be my finale video before football season starts!
Twice won the NBA scoring championship while also racking up 100+ blocks and 200+ steals. People can get into their feels about Bron or Pippen or Phil Jackson. But he didn't need Pip or Phil out there to knock down a shot, or block an opponent or get a steal. Those were all him. And Bron never had a season like those. Add to the fact, if you take Bron's best season scoring, Michael had 7 seasons that were better than that. There never was a GOAT debate.
Man you had to have just been there. No one else has made more people fans of basketball than Jordan. I became an NBA fan because of Jordan.
He was absolutely magical. There is no one who could take control of a game the way he did.
I was actually excited when the buzz of LeBron started while he was still in high school. But he never had the absolute dominance that Jordan had. There was no debate, everyone who watched him play knew that they were witnessing a once in a lifetime athlete.
Michael jordan voyager is a must watch. There's 2 parts and the first one i actually like better than this mixtape. Jordan made crazy ass shots regularly. Highlight reel stuff on a nightly basis.
Meet the G.O.A.T of all G.O.A.Ts, we call him Black Jesus, Air Jordan, His Airness, Flight 23 or simply the greatest basketball player in the history of the game. #23
Don't forget Chupacabra - he who disemboweled GOATs.
Amen
My Top three of all time are #1 Michael Jordan #2 Larry Bird #3 Magic Johnson
I agree..
I have#4 LeBron
#5 Kareem..
Jordan retired 23 after his father's death he wore 45 for baseball then he changed back to 23 because he said it didn't feel natural. He got fined for changing it back
I can't believe people get to the play against the Lakers where he switched to his left hand at the last second to lay it up and then say he only did that to show off. He made that move, because he was anticipating the defender (who was known as a guy that blocked shots) was going to try to block it. So he switched hands, but the defender didn't jump. So the replay looks as if that move was unnecessary.
Even if he was showing off, I don't mind it
Defense is harder now
Offense is now easier
Offense was harder before, that's the nuance and MJ still had more offensive prowess when it was harder to score
Than today's era
I agree
He wore #45 because he retired after winning 3 str8 rings & mvp of those rings...his father also was murdered. When he returned from retirement he chose #45 his high school number. When asked why he said: “I didn't want to wear 23 because I knew my father wasn't there to watch me, and I felt it was a new beginning and 45 was my first number when I was playing in high school."
He went back to #23 after the first game of the Eastern Conference Semifinals.
MJ NO1 BY FAAAAAAR!! 😊😊😊
His best finals game was 69 points with 18 rebounds it was a masterpiece
Epic game, wasn't a Finals game though. MJ highest score in a Finals game was 55 vs the Suns. Incredibly MJ averaged over 40 points in that Finals series!! 🐐💯
I thought that was a finals game I'm sorry
It was a playoffs game against Larry birds Celtics
@@jameswilson2268 The 69 point 18 rebound game was vs the Cavs. The Celtics game was a different masterpiece game, MJ put up 63 vs the Celtics after only playing 18 games or something like that due to injury. He has so many unbelievable performances it can be hard to keep track.
@@davidgardner8651 ahh that’s right my apologies, and yes he does have so many unbelievable games it’s hard to keep them all seperate which is another reason why he will always be the GOAT
“…they looked like plumbers.”
If Michael Jordan played today, his opponents would look like plumbers. Except he’d be scoring 50 points a game.
I play a lot of ball. I'm noticing youngsters developing a 3pt. shot. I mean they are in jr high or high school. And a lot of them can do it. It's starting to look like 3pt. shooting might not be all that difficult. It was always about how much you focused on the 3pt shot. Back then it wasn't a focus. Not Jordan or anybody else back then was told to shoot 3's. Now, it is a 100 % focus. You know what I don't see youngsters do? They don't focus on their foot work. They might have the step back or side step but that's it. And even grown adults also have issues with foot work. Footwork is hands down the most difficult thing to achieve in basketball. Also athleticism and heart. When Jordan was playing in the league at 40, he still played every possession with heart. He was all out on defense and offense. He was never caught standing around waiting for something to happen. So today's NBA is just really not a fine product. It lost it's heart and that's why I can't consider any of these players playing today as greats. This is why Jordan will always be my Goat. This video shows what stats can't. And even with stats, he's still tremendously impressive.
I definitely agree, last player I heard whose footwork was complemented was Kobe!
MJ hasn't played in damn near 3 decades and his name still rings bells this will not change. He changed the game and put basketball on the map around the world..G.O.A.T
I love that "plumbers" comment considering Luka & Joker look more like plumbers than anyone I can remember in the Jordan era. How are those two plumbers doing in this more athletic era?
Jordan said that he didn't want to focus on becoming a consistent 3 point shooter because he felt that it would take away from other aspects of his game even tho he was a good enough 3 point shooter
MJ was pure finesse...the grace and mentality the hand check needs to come back, right now its a free for all to make the game faster....MJ been out game 20 yrs and he still relevant..instead of saying they were plumbers not good player,just say he was better than everyone else..at every rec its somebody better then everyone.he wore 45 because his 23 was retired and he had to pay to get back..
I can respect that, he was superior to his peers
Paul Pierce would say that's The Truth! MJ was so good that Zeke Thomas once said "Jordan makes All-Stars look like high-schoolers." I saw that jaguar-like first step, off dribble or jab, in person and there isn't a perimeter defender dead or alive that could have stayed in front of him. The guy had the appetite of famished great whites. If he played today he'd smell these feminine cats' blood and put'em on death row like Suge Knight. Soon as his Nikes took flight he'd eat'em up like Dahmer after a hunger strike.
@@itsshadbihhe’s superior to any player today.
MJ was a raging bull with finesse
@@mannyneva1760true!
You dont see the rock-the-cradle dunk anymore because most of the super leapers of today are two-footed leapers who need to set and plant off 2-feet to get major air. These are guys who have used plyometric training their entire lives. The best one-footed leaper of the past 15 years was Lebron, and he simply doesn't have the fluidity and body control to do it (partially due to his size). Ja Morant might be able to do it.
Dang bro now that you mention it, I dont see too many one foot jumpers, especially superstars!
Ja jumps off 2 mainly,he can't do the cradle. If there was anyone who could do amongst current players,I would say pre-injury Lavine,he's an excellent 1 foot leaper with great coordination
MJ and Dr.J..good one.
But, Mike too quick and too good a ball handler
Yea probably true!
When Jordan came back the NBA wouldn't let him wear 23 because it was already retired. So he went with his high-school baseball number. He only wore 45 for almost half a season, and got fined for going back to 23 without NBA approval
That 16:02 free throw dunk in is insane. MJ came out left field.
Mike came up when many of the old school greats were recently retired or still playing, so he took a little from everybody's bag and showed them he could do it too. He retired after the first three-peat and played Baseball for 1 season. Then he came hack to the Bulls for the second three-peat.
22:59 He retired 23. When he came back with 45, someone made a comment about how “45 isn’t 23”. Next game, 23 was back.
IT IS ILLEGAL to retire a jersey and bring it back ($100k fine❓⁉️). The league is like “Michael, YK you can’t do this, right❓⁉️” He said “Yes, I know. Take this money and GTFO my face. I’ll see you (next game)”. 23 was officially back because someone talked shit (forgot who, but he tells the story)🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣 #OnlyMike
When Mike returned in regular season,he wore 45 for remainder of season. He wore 45 in 1st round playoff win vs Hornets. Next round vs the Magics,he wore 45 for 1st 2 games.last game in 45 is when he had that uncharacteristic late game turnover which sealed a Magic victory,Nick Anderson(of the Magics) said that wasn't 23 out there. Next game,Jordan switched back to 23,of course he was fined for each game he wore 23 but he or the Bulls ate the cost
No disrespect at all to Julias Irving, but Michael Jordan didn't copy his game even in the slightest bit. One of the only people I've seen actually totally copy another player's game was Kobe Bryant copied Michael Jordans game. Which of course makes perfect sense because they trained together in the off season and were friends.
This seems controversial right now!
That Layup against the Lakers in the Finals was not unnecessary. He doesn't know that the first Defender isn't really going to commit to challenging the layup, so he did what he thought was he needed to do to get the best attempt possible. I hate when people say that, like they do not see that first guy pretending that he's going to challenge.
i recommend MJ voyager rare videos 1 and 2
and his defensive highlights videos
I'll check em out!
yes i strongly agree!!!
@@itsshadbih because once you see those videos you will change your mind and know that Jordan is the GOAT.
The reason for MJ getting past so many defenders was not because they were "plumbers," but because he was such a great passer, shooter, faker, footwork, finishing skill, and most important, had the quickest first step in the NBA. When defending Jordan, since he was capable of any of these, regardless of distance from the basket, a defender had to guard against all of the possibilities. Jordan could beat you in a multiplicity of ways. The other thing is that, especially late in games, Jordan was not afraid to go to the hole because, if he missed because of a foul, he was a great free throw shooter. (unlike some people I know that avoid contact at the basket late in games because of atrocious free throw shooting!) It can easily be said that the 80's and 90's era produced some of the best defenders in NBA history, including Jordan himself (both led the league in scoring [35 ppg] & won defender of the year in the same season [87-88]!), and teammates Pippen, Rodman, and Harper, among many others in the league... who could defend anyone from any era, especially this one.
Big men in the paint used to pray their teamates would stop MJ from the perimeter. The terror in their face when it didnt work and the big man getting dunked on from anywhere was crazy. No one did it like that other than KOBE 💯💯💯
This is when he came back out of retirement. He took a yr and a half off and came back February close to his birthday with #45. He wore it a few games and then so.e other player said to Mike you ain't playing like #23 so next game he wore 23 and paid fines for the whole season to wear his old number.
I don't think Jordan will be forgotten as easily as the older players that came before him (like Wilt and Bill, or even Dr. J to an extent), and even Kareem, due to most of his peak career being available online -- the fact that he still has the highest records, accolades, season and per game stats and analytics to this day and it's just not possible for LeBron to catch him makes it hard. People who argue that LeBron is the best are largely doing it based on longevity -- but even before LeBron hit these longevity stats, Kareem had the Longevity records and quite a few more accolades than LeBron, but almost no one was calling Kareem the GOAT over MJ. If LeBron's longevity makes him better than MJ, then Kareem should've been better than MJ by everyone before this since he both had the longevity AND more accolades than LeBron, but that's recency bias for you.
I think in 25 years some people will remember LeBron, but there will probably be newer players that people say are better than LeBron. And with modern medicine we might have NBA players playing 25, 30, or even 35 years if they crack genetics and aging. You never know, then LeBron's longevity records won't mean anything. As long as there's a visual record of anything, people will be able to make up their own minds over who they think is better, and until someone has the physical gifts of MJ (which I've yet to see again), I just don't know. Don't get me wrong, there are some amazing players, but MJ just had some all round talents that I don't see stack up as a totality in anyone else as a package of game.
You don't think Kobe had those gifts?
@@itsshadbih The glove and 48 inch vertical? Nope, don't think he did.
@@itsshadbihno he didn’t,Kobe wasn’t as fast,couldn’t jump as high,smaller hands,less hang time,kobe had to work hard just to imitate mj
He had number 45 on because after his first retirement his number 23 Jersey was retired on the Bulls so they had to wait a season until they could unretire it in the offseason so he could use it in the 96 season. This man was looking at a statue of himself in the United Center while still playing there. 😂
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What crap.....He went back to 23 DURING the season he came back.....In the play offs
@@Warriors2022... no he didn't. He literally lost in 45 and decided to change it back the next season because they said 45 wasn't like 23
@@whenisdinner2137 Mate you don't know what u talking about. He changed it DURING the playoffs in 95!!
Anyone who doesn't think Mike would absolutely dominate today has never seen him play. I saw a game the other day and most of the team was sitting around the 3pt line waiting for the ball, including the big men.
Dude would seriously bounce twice and take flight. He wouldn't need a 3 ball when you can't stop hos short and mid range game
He wore the number 45 when he came back from retirement. After a while, he was able to use his number 23 again.
The "unnecessary" layup against the Lakers is actually an attempt to draw a foul that was the old school three-point play and you can see by watching Michael he thrived on drawing a foul and getting the basket... This video reaction was very entertaining to watch!!
Thanks, preciate your comment!
They don't play all out like that anymore sad era😢😢😢😢😢
I think nobody can debate that! Maybe Iverson is the only one comparable.
@itsshadbih yeah Iverson and kobe could be put in there
Chicago Bulls retired number 23 after he left in 1993. When he come back, he choose 45, because that was his favorite number in childhood. Later, he use again 23 (in the game against Orlando in 1995).
The comment about how the old school player played 82 games versus this load management era kind of takes away from this age groups are better physically.
And based on numbers MJ is still GOAT. Know one can live up to that 23.
25 years from now when you ask who wore 23 MJ will always be the answer.
I gotcha bro. On the switch hands layup. He said he seen Sam Perkins about to jump so he switched it in mid air.
Pay attention to how MJ could jump off one or two feet and have the same abilities off either or. It's hard to find nowadays in one player. Them lil gaps he can get thru and still muscle the ball to the rim is beyond me lol
The goat forever timeless
The reason why Jordan wore 45 when he came back was because Jordan came back with 18 games left in the season and his number 23 had been retired. There is a rule in the NBA that you can't unretire a number in the middle of a season. So he wore 45 ( His baseball number) for the rest of that season and brought back 23 the following year! Oh, and your question about him wearing another number because his jersey got stolen, happened on February 4th, 1990, he had to wear number 12 for that game.
He had 45 on because, during the 2 years he retired, they retired his Jersey and hung It in the rafters. But after a few games he wanted his jersey back.
MJ🥰 MY GOAT FOREVER～FOREVER 💯💯🌟🌟無與倫比
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One of the main things people miss is how many people are in the paint when Jordan played. Usually at least one 7 footer. Imagine if you can what Jordan would do with the spacing in today's game with no true centers protecting the rim.
Who knows🤔
Right? I lost count on how many 7 footers he dunked on in this video.
Stay in the league longer don't make you the goat. Jordan played in a era where 1 million was a good salary. And 25 years later worth 3.3 billions. He came in the league at day one and took the world by storm. And the mix tape was like every single game all game.
Jordan NEVER STOPPED PUNCHING 😂😂😂😂😂
I always thought D Wade was better than LeBron.
You are wrong about the defense thing, they had to play man to man, no zone. You had to stay on your man or double or they would call illegal defense. They don't play too much defense nowadays
Your hand checking debate makes no sense, they was not grabbing cause they couldn't stop them and they wasn't plummers
These new dudes are soft and always crying about a foul, play real ball, oh they can't
14:33 he said he anticipated them to jump and try and block it so he changed his mind in the air and switched it up. It looks unnecessary at face value but it was a reason he did that. He was also red hot in that finals game and that was his 13th consecutive shot made in a row. 🐐🙌🏾💯
That anticipation of his shot being blocked was because his college teammate Sam Perkins was there. Mike knew Sam, who was known as a shot blocker who had extremely long arms. Mike saw him and anticipated him trying to block the shot, hence the hand switch.
His jersey was not stolen. When MJ returned to the NBA after his dad was murdered, he didn’t want to wear #23 if his dad couldn't see him wear it. After 22 games, he went back to # 23
He had 45 on because his number 23 was retired by the team immediately after he retired to play baseball. Later they took the number down from the ceiling and unretired the number so he can wear it again. Number 45 was his older brother's number and 23 he wore was half of 45.
Great reaction..
I got #1 MJ
#2 LARRY
#3 MAGIC
#4 LEBRON
#5 KAREEM.
No other 5 can beat my 5..lol
No Wilt in the Top 5?
great reaction for sure....I like your list, however, I think Wilt Chamberlain should replace LeBron as Wilt was dominant on offense and defense and didn't need to use load management to make it through a full 82 game season..of course, I understand if you've never seen Wilt play or researched his game highlights/achievements, etc, how he wouldn't be on your list...✌
Mj
Bird
Magic
Kobe
Shaq
😌your team has a major flaw my team filled with killers,you lose
I truly truly wish kids could go back an watch mjs career the way we did. the build up, the pressure, the nail biting moments, an most importantly get to know who his competition was an just how good they were. It's not the same just hearing about old teams. So tired of hearing kids claim he had weak competition. You could hear the contact an physicality live.
If every nba fan could go back an experience that an compare it to what they experienced with bron.. this wouldn't even be a debate.
There some crazy jordan stats that will blow your mind. He had more 40 point games than under 20 point games. In the play offs he had more 50 point games than games with less than 20. Was MVP, defensive player of the year, and scoring champ in the same year. Has 19 of the top 100 game scores of all time. Is number 1 in almost every advanced stat. out of thr 10 times in history someone averaged 40 in a play off series, 6 of the times were by MJ and 4 were 4 other players (i might need fact checked on that one). Led the league in scoring 10 times, the next is Wilt with 7, after that a few guys had 4. Only outscored by one player in a playoff series in his entire career by .2 pts as a rookie. There are so many that its impossible to list them all.
More scoring titles than Wilt is crazy!
22:56 - Aside the fact that he retired the #23 after his first three championships from 91-93, the #45 came from his father who got killed during his retirement. He wore that number when he played baseball as a child and when he played Minor Leagues in between his basketball retirement. He only wore it for half of his return in the 94-95 season either before or after they lost the Eastern Conference Finals to Shaq and Penny's Magic
Dawg. Your reaction at the end of the video is priceless. Just think about it watching him play throughout the years.
You got to watch the last 3 minutes of game six of the 98 finals
Jordan wore the number 45 jersey when he came out of first retirement late in the 1994-1995 season for several reasons: One, because of the prior tragic death of his father (1993) and what he meant to him, Jordan was motivated to "start over" with the number 45. Two, his number 23 jersey had been retired by the Bulls organization in 1994 while Jordan, in first retirement, was playing baseball. Three, Jordan wore the number 45 jersey while he played baseball with the White Sox. Four, number 45 was the jersey number that Jordan wore when he played baseball and JV basketball in high school.
He switched back to the number 23 jersey in the second round of 1995 EC playoffs against the Orlando Magic. In the opening game, Jordan scored 19 points (8/22 shooting) and Bulls lost the game. Nick Anderson, who had stolen the ball from Jordan in the last seconds of that game to set up the decisive score, told reporters, "No. 45 doesn't explode like No. 23 used to. No. 45 is not No. 23. I couldn't have done that to No. 23." The next game (May 10, 1995), Jordan came back wearing the number 23 jersey, dropped 38 points on the Magic, and the Bulls won that game 104-94. The Chicago Bulls were fined $25K for Jordan wearing his old number 23 jersey (because it had already been retired), but he continued wearing the number until his second retirement with the Bulls in 1998. In addition, it was also the number jersey (No. 23) that he wore when he came out of retirement number two to play with the Wizards. Iconic!
#45 was his number as a baseball player in middle school. He plays MLB double A with that number as well. When he came back in 1995 to play the last 17 games of the Bulls 1994-1995 season, he used the #45 for 10 games. Then he switched to #23 for the last 2 weeks of the season. The Bulls were at the 8th position for the playoffs and almost about to be eliminated from the playoffs. The Bulls went 13-4 with MJ on those finals 17 games and finished 5th in the Eastern Conference.
Michael Jordan’s older brother was number 45 and Michael looked up to him. The reason why he’s number 23 is because 23 is half of 45 (22.5). It was in one his first documentary back in the day (1989).
Come Fly With Me was the name of the documentary.
Jordan has said it many occasions that his game is modeled after his brother Larry Jordan and David Thompson
imagine jordan today, with what we know now about sports. with nobody willing to hard foul this man. he's putting up at least 40 a night, never taking a night off and leaping 50". i've watch a lot of sports in my life, and nobody i've ever watched had his kind of will to win at all costs, combined with the ability to actually pull it off. the man was ice cold. us old guys aren't calling mike the best bball player ever......we're telling everyone he's the greatest athlete ever.
What made that layup dope against the Lakers also was Marv Albert's commentary after..
Marv commentary always 🔥🔥
They retired number 23 when he retired. He came back with 17 games left and wore 45. Following season he paid a fine and put 23 back on.
Making this comment before you started the mixtape. I like your mentality and general open mindedness.
it's crazy how people have now conflated the Russell era with the Jordan era to claim that 90s NBA was a league of plumbers.
After he retired the first time, 23 was retired and hung in the rafters. So when he came back he wore 45. He wasn't playing up to his standards so he blamed the number and went back to 23. HIs last 3 years with Bulls, he was playing in games with his number retired in the rafters and his statue in front of the arena,
After the 1993 season, MJs dad was murdered and MJ retired. His #23 jersey was also retired. When he returned to the Bulls in 1995, he changed to #45 because his dad was no longer able to watch him play. 45 was the first number he wore in high school. After 22 games, he switched back to 45. Btw, he paid a substantial fine every game for the rest of that season because #23 had been retired by the Bulls
Jordan himself has repeatedly spoken of his admiration for Julius Irving, and how much inspiration he drew from "Dr. J". It's not at all a secret that much of Jordan's style, and philosophy came from Irving.
It will NEVER change...
Just look at the center's Jordan had to play against when he was attacking the paint. Prime Hakeem, prime David Robinson, prime Patrick Ewing, young shaq who was insane, prime mutombo, prime morning. He also faced moses malone. When he went to the rim thats who he had to dunk on.
He wore 45 because 23 reminded him of his father, and it was his number when he played baseball. When they lost in the playoffs after he came back, he went back to 23.
That was his baseball number #45 🖤🖤 great video love reaction 😂😂😂
Preciate it bro!
MJ studied Julius Erving and David Thompson he literally embodied both styles of play
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Oh Brotha, you didn't know??? He was "John Wick w the Infinity Gauntlet"
Jordan wasn't 'showboating' on that switch hand shot. He said he had glimpsed one of the other team coming up on his side, and he thought he was going to try stop him from making the shot-so he switched hands to keep the ball.