Harley Sportster "Clutch installation" !
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- A full video on installing a Sportster Clutch, including adjustments !
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I’m so glad I found this dude on UA-cam. Your videos are clear, thorough and well done. It’s just like sitting right in the classroom. No questions from me. Hahaha and a big thumbs up ✌️
Top job!
I like the way you explain the job so logically- very easy for people to follow.
That little tidbit about the primary drive sprocket was a bit of icing.
Thanks Nick, glad you enjoyed it mate.
What a nice and easy clutch change. I just finished a clutch on and 1987 GL1200A with the engine installed. Royal PITA, but certainly much easier than engine removal/twist. Love you channel!
Good to hear from you mate and really appreciate your support, have a great weekend!
When ever I adjust any chain I rotate the sprockets all the way around, because once I adjusted a drive chain on an old Sporty and when the tight spot came around it sheared all the rear sprocket rivets and there it was going 90 miles an hour sitting still. Be easy with the jugs off
Great tip on using the 1/2 inch wrench as a measure.
Most welcome mate.. Glad it was helpful!
Very cleaver yet so simple. Id never of thought of that
Lots of helpful tips in this one, and enjoyed the longer format. Never realized the gearing was different between 883 & 1200. I just figured people wanted more displacement. My guess of a flat tracker build might be wrong if you're going for longer bars. Guess we'll have to wait & see!
Longer? or wider?... but wither way, these tiny little hugger bars are going! And nothing's off the table at this early point...!!
Nice to see a guy happy in his work.
Quality video, only engineers use the manual, because that’s the right way. Well impressed. 👌👌👌👌
Great video as always. oh and now i know what a torch is. lol. never heard that. must be a Brit thing. I'm learning. :)
Glad you enjoyed it sir.. and yeah, two nations separated by a common language right..lol!
Hey Delboy, great instructional as always. Im getting a bike up and going that sat for a while with dry primary. I now have fluids in it. Bike is running on the stand. Pulling in the clutch, in gear, wheel still has resistance. How do i free it up, do i need to pull out the plates and oil them up again?
I know this is an old post but I believe it's the front belt drive pulley that's a different size
I bet that was rewarding, definitely needed 4 hands! Well done both of you 😀
Yes it was buddy, to be making progress !
I believe it’s an upgrade over the old plates. The old plates had a thick plate with rivets in the middle of the pack.
Excellent good job. Interesting to watch, I put a vid up last night of doing the clutch on my wife’s custom army bike. Whilst you’d made it look easy it still seems Harley have over complicated the job compared to most. I’ll say it again… interesting! Cheers
Thanks for watching mate, that's a cool bike, love a bit of olive drab and I hope she enjoys it!
@@Moonfleet41 Aye she loves it now!! Right after she bought a 3rd bike 😄 We’ve now got a lovely KE175 in the lounge!
Clearly you should have noted that soaking the friction plates should only be done if you have a wet clutch. While that may be so obvious as to be intuitive, there will be someone who does it with a dry clutch.
Completed like a pro. Good info 👍
Thanks Mike 👍, simple assembly and great fun in a busy world!
Very Good on the clutch job, you mentioned the smaller sprocket on the 883. I was wondering what the tooth count is on the other side? I assume this is belt driven
on the final drive. I own a 1200 and had a little too much get up and go, and wanted to reduce the rpm's at highway speeds.
hi del would i be right in saying this has no compensator in the primary caseing?
I went to change my primary gasket and ended up blowing the lobes off of the clutch basket because I got ahead of myself with the compression from the last video
Hi Del, regarding the casing screws, have you given a thought to maybe just re-plating them?
Possibly, but it will be sometime in the future as I have the full dry build to do first... it is an option for sure!
Was there any particular reason for replacing the clutch cable? Maybe you recommend always replacing the clutch cable whenever you replace the clutch?
Did you skip the video and not see the horribly rusted adjuster screw in the middle of the cable?
@@Moonfleet41 lol - I guess I did. I was looking to see how the clutch plates go in, so I might not have sat down with my coffee yet. :)
Hi Del. Is the plate sock with the 20w 50 engine oil? Thanks
Soak it in whatever you're going to fill the primary with!
well done again dell a joy to watch
So question do I start with a fiber plate on the steal plate
Look inside the empty clutch basket and what do you see? Your first metal plate, so obviously, a fibre goes against that.
Hey my brother good afternoon. It's ben a wile.how are you and how you feeling them days..you be safe and take care.great vedio.verry informative.
Thank you David, always good to hear form you brother, and thank you, we're fine and looking forward to the spring and getting out for some rides in the sunshine.. Take care and keep safe. D&Px
Excellent tip with the 1/2in spanner would it work on normal chain driven bike
Presuming you mean a final drive chain, which would be a much wider amount of slack, so you'd need a bigger spanner i guess, but principle is the same yeah.!
@@Moonfleet41 many thanks Dell boy have a great day
where's your inspirational quote ?
Nice Del, like always 👏👏👏👏 But I believe that the sprocket that is diferent from the 883s to the 1200s is the secondary sprocket, on the Belt side...
I do enjoy the way you make and film your videos, but I saw a few things that were off. You are indeed upgrading the clutch with an extra plate kit, and getting rid of the OEM spring plate, thus not an OEM clutch. Since you're doing that and increasing the displacement you usually want to get a stronger clutch spring. As for the clutch adjustment, the manual states 1/4 turn off not 1/2, but 1/2 is recommended for upgraded clutches with a stiffer spring. Finally the engine sprocket size on 1200s and 883s were the same from 86-03, but they had different drive gearing. The smaller gearing for the engine sprocket is only relevant on 04+ models and can easily be mitigated with a larger or smaller drive pulley/sprocket. I'm probably wrong about something in there myself with all the different sportster variants tho haha. Interested to see how your build goes 👍.
what about the gear shaft oil seal !
Ah, memories lol. Very first clutch job I did as a lad, I wiped down the plates with oil, did not soak them. Guess who had to drain the oil and do the job all over again? hee hee. Sigh, live and learn!
Ha ha, oh well, the hardest lessons stick the best aye. !
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Great video again Del. Love your explanations about why you do certain things. Just wondering why you didn’t use grease on the primary gasket to stop it sticking or ripping when you need to open the primary again.
I could have done, it works just as well, but the manual on these advises to install both side gaskets dry, no need for any sealant.
Hi Delboy, great instructional as always. Im getting a 1200 up and going after sitting awhile, pretty dry primary. Has fluids and now running on the stand. Will the plates be bound up? As in when put in gear, pull clutch in, i get no free wheel. Do i need to strip it out and soak them? Cheers again from New Zealand.
Your comment about 883s Vs 1200 is not exactly correct. My good buddy rides a carbureted 883 with a 1250 kit etc and my pretty much stock EFI 1200 absolutely runs him down in the mid to top end. Read hammer performance article on building power with a sporty. Very good read with dyno proven data etc. 1200s Are much more ideal for making power all around.
Great video as always
Hey Delboy, great instructional as always. Im getting a bike up and going that sat for a while with dry primary. I now have fluids in it. Bike is running on the stand. Pulling in the clutch, in gear, wheel still has resistance. How do i free it up, do i need to pull out the plates and oil them up again?
Amsoil primary in there. I just use the regular 20-50 amsoil but was thinking about changing it to the primary when I change my clutch. Can you feel a difference in both oils??
Bluenose-1956 ebay Seller Del for your Sportster bolts ;-) watching the Spoty being rebuilt ;-) top work ;-)
Across the pond you seem to have problems getting parts from Harley Davidson which begs the question, why not order parts from places like lowbrowcustoms.
No worry about them cover bolts coming out again anytime soon with that much thread lock on them. Any reason why you thread lock them bolts with so much thread lock?
Hey Del, now that I think of it I really did not want to waste your time asking about the tooth count! If you would just remind me of this bikes year. Thanks
All HD chains should be adjusted this way... HD should ditch the automatic tensioner!
I hear some tweety noise (like there is a little bird in it) from the clutch adjuster when engine runs at idle. What can be the problem. With kind regards
Still here homemade tools I love it made a stop block for primary myself had a paddle off a machine I worked on at work made of poly cut my own and 5 more for friends
Your literally making me want to buy a piece of shit bike to fix up haha. Love it and the asmr noises are great haha
Good tips👍wish my Beemer was as easy to change the clutch😉
thanks from France!
Can you tell me the tightening torques in nm to screw the crankcase bolts? Thx
Dynamo wrench looks not comfortable for work with, and seems can hurt hand.
Another small correction: HD Service Manual states for adjusting the clutch mechanism "turn the screw counter-clockwise until is seated then turn a 1/4 turn clockwise", not 1/2 turn. These things can be very confusing specialy for newcomers.
It's not that critical mate, the difference in adjusted depth between 1/4 and 1/2 a turn would be measured in thou... it's purely to give expansion space for heat, so depending on where you live (hot or cold climate) and what you put your clutch through (top gear cruising or heavy commuting) depends on what adjustment is best.. the manual does suggest a 1/4 turn, but more is required if you're gonna get it really hot.. On the Big Twin adjustment, it's actually recomended as 1/2 to 3/4 of a turn for the same reason.
Howdy, I sent you $20 Australian dollars (about 10 quid) for your service via PayPal.
Just wondering if you could send a link for that original Harley Workshop manual? I have the 2005 XL883 custom.
Thanks again - Alex
Thank you so much Alex, we've replied privately to you about your kind donation and your question via your Paypal email address! All the best, Del
Ive got two diff torque wrenches and i feel like
If i gave these hd bolts even more then 50lbs the head of the hd bolts will snap off and trust me i snap bolts a lot and thats why i have a couple torque wrenches but really 90lbs of torque? Just seems like so much for this case!! Lmk
"but really 90lbs of torque? Just seems like so much for this case".
What bolt in this Video is 90ft lb ?
Hey Delboy, great instructional as always. Im getting a bike up and going that sat for a while with dry primary. I now have fluids in it. Bike is running on the stand. Pulling in the clutch, in gear, wheel still has resistance. How do i free it up, do i need to pull out the plates and oil them up again?
That would possibly be a last resort for sure, clean them off as they make be dragging on congealed oil... but first at least just run the motor while pumping the clutch in and out slowly to try and flush the new oil in between the plates, and of course, go ride it ! it may take a few miles, but some regular ordinary use could just clear it all off and get the mback to normal.. Bikes love to be used far more then laid up ! Good luck with it.
Hey man i got a 92 Harley sportser xlh 1200 that has a really slow crank wont turn on just really slow crank .. anyways is there any way a faulty or stuck clutch could be the problem ? I took the primary off to replace the starter because i tough that was the problem but looking into it i fill like my clutch wont let the engine crank properly idk of thats a thing if you can give me any feedback back thanks 🙏
Have you checked the health of your battery?, that'd be my first thought if slow cranking!
Did you use the awful riveted spring plate in the centre of the clutch plate assembly? I'm about to get rid of mine as I've seen too many horror stories of the rivets failing and damaging the clutch or worse.
I think from memory if dealt with at least four of those over the years, one went to far south it destroyed the clutch basket as well.. they're an absolute liability, so NO, it's safely removed and replaced with and extra two steels and one extra fiber !
Thank you for another Brilliant video as always, Phil
Why not polish the primary cover since you did the cam cover?
What a great video👍. I have been looking for a service manual for my 2021 Sport Glide but cant find one. Any ideas Del?
Thanks mate. Give Jersey HD a try online for the manual, they usually come up trumps, and VAT free too.!
@@Moonfleet41 Ordered👍
I love your videos. Thanks so much for the time you invest in creating such valuable content
What’s the better gear to leave the motorcycle to do this type of service? I’ve tried to use a compressor clutch tool that I bought from Amazon but the pressure wasn’t enough to get the rings loose to access the plates.
Thank for all information
Ha, nice... not the only one that uses spanners as guage markers.
Great job mate plenty of information as always, I have a lot of your vids to catch up on 😅 keep her shiny side up 👍
Thanks buddy 👍, good to hear from you.
Thanks for introducing me to the un-Japanese world of engine building. Very different and yet somehow fascinating. I really like your patience. Zen or the art of Harley maintenance ;-)
Cheers from Nürnberg/Germany, Günter
Thank you my friend. Glad you enjoyed it!
@@Moonfleet41 I do, like so many others. Happy for both of you that the channel is growing.
Why didn't you put the spring plate on?
My first port of call before attempting any job is this page! Great videos, great content!
Awesome! Thank you buddy !
The clutch plate with the rivets (spring plate) will grenade eventually and chew up your clutch basket and get in your primary. Especially under more power. I would definitely take that out. It happened on my 2008. It was stock minus a stage 1 kit and tune had approximately 23k miles.
I did take it out Jessi, replaced with with 2 extra steels and an extra fibre... sorry to hear about your bike, hope you got it sorted.
@@Moonfleet41 great, yeah I noticed it hanging in a later video. It got all sorted. I sold the bike, I wish I hadn't I miss that sporty but that's a different story.
Great work Del, I always enjoy your methodology and presentation , great tip on the 882/1200 choice as well, cheers!
Thanks buddy👍, im glad you enjoy the videos, really appreciate your support.
Great series on the Sportster. I have a rebuild '74 Sportster that's been sitting for a bit, is there any way to lubricate the clutch disks as you suggest without taking it all apart? Thanks so much.
Hi Tim, not really, they are pressed together so even if you squirt oil in over the clutch pack it's not going to get down in between the plates and soak the fiber part.. but if they are the old plates and just been sat, then they shouldn't have dried out, oil doesn't evaporate, and once again, they're pressed together so no air gets between them anyway..
@@Moonfleet41 Del, thanks for the reply and the assurance!
Very nice! I enjoy these longer videos.
Thanks Tom. Glad you like them!
Sir, not sure if I heard you mention or not.... but are you installing an OEM clutch or Screaming Eagle Performance clutch? I can only imagine how difficult this project is with all the parts shortages worldwide. Such a mess going on. Great video, as usual, sir!
As more you know, more you look for information. You are better than manual! Great job!
It looks like you put the spring plate (grenade plate) back in. These fall apart at about 30000 miles and you have bits of brass rivets and spring steel floating all through the gearbox. The mod is to replace it with all frictions and steels, or to use the 'judder spring' set up from the XR1200. Also Harley used a normal ball bearing for the thrust bearing, not a proper thrust bearing. Its a $15 dollar bearing to replace with 7200B which is an angular thrust bearing. These are really only the two shitty cheap stupid things on a sporty (well, apart from the shocks) and well worth doing.I did it in my 2005 and now in the 1995. Also, I really enjoy your videos. Thanks!
I certainly didn't refit the spring plate mate.. added two extra steels and an extra fiber, made the plate into an ornament which is all they're good for aye!! Much of this bike is like brand new internally, 14k miles and still has cross hatching in the bores, cams look less than a year old, and it now has and S&S 1200 kit ready and running..! Thanks for watching mate. !
@@Moonfleet41 hey, that’s great! I figured you would know that, just didn’t see it! Sorry if I sounded a smartarse, didn’t mean to.great videos, thanks again!!
@@MrBradfordchild No worries buddy, I always appreciate the nufge, there are always things we don't know and it's wonderful to benefit from other people's experience and knowledge... I've actually made the plate in to a cool steam punk feature on my Goldwing Rat Bike!... so it's still gone to good use lol Thanks again for your support, Del
Take a moment to read the comments people and notice how Del genuinely replies to so many comments, this must take so much time. Loads of respect you you Del. I feel like your hitting a bit of a milestone with this project. Content is informative, feels one to one. And also you seem as exited about this project as we are. Looking forward to that notification I get that says “ Delboy’s gotta new video”
Thank you for your kind words Alex, we do indeed to try reply to everyone, we feel it's polite and the right thing to do when people invest their time and engagement in our content!
Best clutch replacement that I have seen yet! Thank you!😊
very nice
You forgot the oil
Thank you so much by the way, so many things I needed to know like why my primary cover wouldn't fit back on? And how much slack to leave in the chain! Now if I can just figure out whether I need to change the plates?
You know Del I’m finally starting to get it. After nearly 30 years of rising jap… I think I understand the fascination with the American Iron icon. Might be my next move methinks… thanks mate for always inspiring!
Excellent
excellent video, thanks man!
Thanks you, Glad you liked it!
Great video!
Clear, well lit photography, & from all the relevant 'hands-on' angles for clarity - eg. '& this is what you should see.'
(Big fan of hunting down any tight spots on chain runs before setting them, a 'twangy' Triplex will just eat bearings.)
Going for that extra 8 inches eh? - Ye gods - I'm now seeing 12 inch risers & Jota bars! - "Nurse, the screens, quick!" : )xx
you make everything look so easy , which it probably was. great results and a great video. working on our big scoot , should be finished this weekend
Hi Andy, it's pretty easy mate, just nuts and bolts and an uncomplicated bike... even today's modern Harleys haven't changed much! Good luck with yours, bet you're looking forward to getting out on the road, take care both, D&Px
@@Moonfleet41 it was on the road last week , but the place I had my wheels refurbished , didn't clean the rims so the tyres wouldn't seal , they used black silicone , and not tyre bead , which I had to have done again , I,am getting compensation from the company , so , but we are hopefully touring around Scotland on the NC500.
Just a thought: Why not use the heating and dunking in oil technique for bluing/rust protection on your existing bolts (or even a bottle of cold bluing solution), and save the money budgeted for new bolts for something else? At a twelve Newton/meter torque spec, I don't think you need to worry about compromising the integrity of the bolts with the torch during heating. The darkened bolt against the aluminum primary/clutch housing would be a nice look. A little effort in cleaning the old hardware and sprucing it up could equal big savings that could be applied elsewhere on the bike.
Could do with a sight glass for the oil level but the clutch cable adjustment is similar to the bandit 600 and the SV650 I had, save the mess behind the sprocket cover 😂
I had an inclination on the gearbox/final drive and bigger top end Del but nice to hear the clarification as I have never owned a Harley but who knows one day eh.
Hopefully that compo comes through soon.
All the best Del and Pen x
I hope Penny gave you permission to use her toothbrush , mind you it did look like she’d had her money’s worth out of it lol .
1/2 inch deflection gauge combination spanner . Now There's a thing ! Peace and love to you both 👍🏻☮❤
What ever works aye buddy..! take care and have a great weekend aye.. D&Pxx
great answer for why you bought the smaller bike and are now adapting the larger top end
Great video... thanks loads!
Glad you liked it!
Nice installation
Thanks buddy..
Nice work Del
Nick Australia
Thanks mate...
É tão simples e tão funcional... Incrivel sistema de transmissão primária.
Is there a special order to the rings at the 2:48 mark or are they all the same?
Check at 2:19, its the solid ring first, then the split spring ring on second.!
@@Moonfleet41 Perfect, thank you!
It would have been helpful to those of us who have never done this before to see how you got to where you started the video.
It would have been helpful if you'd watched to the end of the video james...17:00
@@Moonfleet41 I’m trying to see how to get the clip off without breaking it or breaking the ears off, I’ve already broken a very small piece off of one of the ears
@@jamesward4893 Sorry mate, what 'clip' and what 'ears' !!
@@Moonfleet41 I got it figured out but I appreciate it
great video
Thanks!
As always brother great video ! I really enjoy the content and the project itself 👍 . Keep up the great work and this series are awesome !! I have never replaced a clutch and this video really helps !!! stay safe guys cheers from new york 🍷🍷🍷🍷🍷🍺🍺🍺
Hey brother, great to hear from you today! We're glad to hear you're enjoying the project, just a simple bike and so easy to work on... we hope you're enjoying your week and looking forward to the weekend, take care and keep safe over there, D&Px
im about to trade/sell/swap my 2016 gsxs-1000 in for another harley as I miss my dyna to much. These bikes are so esay to work on as well compared to new bikes. Love the vids and looking forward to see what this turns into lol. Also why not a newer 883?
Hi Marcus, welcome back to the darkside, can't beat a Dyna!... this bike was perfect, I wanted a carburetored engine and preferably solid mount, not rubber mount, and this was the final year they had both, plus of course, it was great value over a later bike.
I like your idea of using a 1/2 wrench to set the chain
Find this stuff super interesting. Maybe I’ll own a Harley one day, maybe not but always pick up a few things here and there and after all, lots of these concepts do apply in some form or another even if the designs are slightly different. Now I’ve just got to get back to my own project. Feels like I have a million pieces of plastic to put back on her!!
Thanks so much for those kind words of encouragement Sir, it's great to hear you're enjoying it, I think anything constructive is watchable as long as it's clear and easy to follow, good luck with your project, hope it goes well, remember to enjoy the journey not just the end result!
Excellent video Del & Penny. Job well done mate, you are starting to make me start looking for a Sportster to play with LOL. Penny and you have a great week. Cheers
Go for it mate, they're a fabulous bike to make a project from and as there are so many of them about, they're quite affordable as a donor! Have a great week there, all the best from us both.