Aer Lingus A330 | SMOKE & BURNING SMELL IN COCKPIT | Emergency Divert to Daytona

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2022
  • 08/NOV/2022
    Aer Lingus A330 performing flight from Orlando to Manchester was climbing to enroute level when the pilots declared MAYDAY reporting having smoke and burning smell in the cockpit.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 161

  • @VASAviation
    @VASAviation  Рік тому +23

    That was a fantastic coordination!

  • @joolesuk4997
    @joolesuk4997 Рік тому +29

    My family and I were on that flight and could smell burning throughout the main cabin. We were initially told we were turning back to Orlando and then advised Daytona and would be taken to a stand on sand. A number of fire trucks met the plane, and firefighters boarded to check the situation. Was a while before we disembarked and was so glad we all got back safely. Crew were trying to keep a lid on the panic but we knew something was very wrong.

    • @VASAviation
      @VASAviation  Рік тому +5

      Thanks for sharing

    • @flowerpower1400
      @flowerpower1400 Рік тому +4

      yep we where on that flight and complained of the smell of burning when sat down by the front of the plane only to be told by the male air steward that it was a normal smell. so glad we got down ok . Aer Lingus have been terrible over this incident, there was no information given and when we got to miami it was chaos. No one came to meet us or sort things out !!!!

    • @TheHoaxer37
      @TheHoaxer37 Рік тому +5

      I was on that flight with 8 family members sat over the wing and the smell and smoke was very strong, what was a coincidence the pilot befor we finished fuelling said coming into ORLANDO THE ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM HAD STOPPED WORKING and I thought having it looked at was a BAD move because it would have added a 3 to 4 hours delay. Makes me wonder if it was linked because the smell was a melting wire smell

  • @smartycummins2500
    @smartycummins2500 Рік тому +20

    Delta 757 yesterday had to do an emergency decent and divert to BHM (DL1056) while en-route to Santa Ana from ATL. Pilots said they lost pressurization at 32,000ft

  • @celticlofts
    @celticlofts Рік тому +3

    Green Flight is a subsidiary of Aer Lingus and operates three aircraft from Manchester airport UK for transatlantic operations. Called Aer Lingus UK it operates flight between Manchester UK to Boston, Orlando and Barbados. Currently it operates two Airbus A330-300 aircraft and 1 Airbus A321LR.

  • @johnclamshellsp1969
    @johnclamshellsp1969 Рік тому +3

    Good evening VASA, always great videos. Really amazing how all these ATC's remain absolutely calm in any emergency.

  • @NicolaW72
    @NicolaW72 Рік тому +1

    Thank you very much for picking this incident up!

  • @djenei2564
    @djenei2564 Рік тому +9

    2:40 mcdonalds cashier when I try to order something while completely wasted

  • @christianforero.
    @christianforero. Рік тому +8

    American Airlines flight "AA2424" yesterday November 10th aborted takeoff in KMIA runway 26L due to passengers standing up (you can hear the captain informing ATC of the motive) it was approximately from 9:28 to 9:33pm Eastern Time for the live ATC recordings .

  • @Silo-Ren
    @Silo-Ren Рік тому +8

    All mayday's are bad but when they are smoke in the cockpit that one is about as worst as it get's. Makes me think of the horrible Swiss Air disaster over Nova Scotia.

  • @tashdobsonthedobsons2311
    @tashdobsonthedobsons2311 Рік тому +3

    Extremely scary experience being on that flight.
    Looks like it’s had to divert again this morning on its return to the UK.

  • @patricknovoa7699
    @patricknovoa7699 Рік тому +20

    It was the most tracked plane on fr24 at one point and the moment I looked up, everyone at riddle had their phone out tracking it so that explains that 😂

    • @gjferg
      @gjferg Рік тому

      So weird...I was sitting at the light at Bellevue and Clyde Morris on the 11th and saw this plane taxiing for takeoff. Got out my FR24 and thought DAB to MAN? Thats odd. Even went as far to see if it was a scheduled flight. Thing left straight into a torrential downpour...lol. Riddle class of 98

    • @patricknovoa7699
      @patricknovoa7699 Рік тому

      @@gjferg I’m so sad I didn’t see the departure but I heard it from the residence halls and it sounded amazing

  • @bannon1994
    @bannon1994 Рік тому +2

    I only heard about this because I have a small diecast model of this plane and wanted to see what it was up to and saw that the plane had diverted to Daytona Beach.

  • @e.alexander1869
    @e.alexander1869 Рік тому +3

    And it stayed here for the hurricane too lol

  • @paolocalvo4804
    @paolocalvo4804 Рік тому +2

    Note that this was also right before Hurricane Nicole just after Embry-Riddle had canceled their evacuations so DAB was working major overtime

  • @NoProblem-_-
    @NoProblem-_- Рік тому

    I plane spotted that plane a couple times before the incident. What a scary occasion to happen right above me! I would have never expected it to happen from the ground, but it did!

  • @patricknovoa7699
    @patricknovoa7699 Рік тому +1

    And it’s still here

  • @jayson8372
    @jayson8372 Рік тому +8

    With all due respect to the ground crew, someone really needs to provide them training about listening and proper radio usage.

  • @markor2476
    @markor2476 Рік тому +47

    "Tee Ay Gee Ey Ee" What the hell was that?? 🤣 This can't be seriously how they do RTF over there? It cost them 4 transmissions instead of one "tango india golf alpha echo" 🤦As our Comms teacher would say "Amazing!/s"

    • @VASAviation
      @VASAviation  Рік тому +18

      Definitely not standard to spell that way :(

    • @spelldaddy5386
      @spelldaddy5386 Рік тому +3

      Certainly not standard, but perhaps the controller thought they had the approach plate in front of them, so he didn't need to be as precise. Similar reason why he was confused about the requests for frequency and inbound course

    • @markor2476
      @markor2476 Рік тому +10

      @@spelldaddy5386 And what was the reason he had no clue what downgrading to PANPAN meant? I swear the stuff you hear on American comms you wouldn't hear anywhere else in the world.

    • @cml1864
      @cml1864 Рік тому +11

      "Heading seventy" aswel 😆

    • @BillySugger1965
      @BillySugger1965 Рік тому +17

      Seriously unimpressed with a lot from ATC on this one. These are _not_ the people I want to accommodate if I ever have an in-flight emergency. Not only the non-phonetic spelling, but not knowing what an ILS course is? Was that a qualified radar controller?

  • @marcelomezz
    @marcelomezz Рік тому +1

    3:41 "When you enunciate, you spit"

  • @phbuss
    @phbuss Рік тому +11

    As usual we don't get to hear the first mayday call which is the most interesting part 😑

  • @stevemayrs6038
    @stevemayrs6038 Рік тому +1

    How dare that person say did the crew get their licenses from a cornflakes packet. All pilots are highly trained. Remember they were coming into an unfamiliar airport with smoke in the cockpit. A high stress situation and besides setting up the aircraft for a landing they would have been doing an emergency checklist also. The controller may have turned them on to the ILS a bit early so they did the right thing by going around if the approach was unstable. All trained for in the simulator.

  • @TheTiktok4321
    @TheTiktok4321 Рік тому

    Daytona being home home to Embry Riddle, surprised to hear such a lackadaisical controller.

  • @maltreatedpony
    @maltreatedpony Рік тому +2

    A good example of how sloppy and non-standard RT wastes time and causes confusion when it is least needed.

  • @cml1864
    @cml1864 Рік тому +24

    Some weird terminology used by the controller

    • @Bluerazor52
      @Bluerazor52 Рік тому +9

      @@flapppytappybird7923 Yes, incorrect terminology.

    • @nickemer3080
      @nickemer3080 Рік тому +2

      Completely disagree. I instruct out of this airport and these controllers are some of the best I've dealt with. I think it was a great job

  • @KC-RallyPlanes
    @KC-RallyPlanes Рік тому +20

    For anyone asking. This is a Aer Lingus UK flight so using Greenflight callsign instead of usual Shamrock callsign.
    Interesting they went around. I know they downgraded to a PAN but you would like to get on the ground ASAP??

    • @cleveriv5349
      @cleveriv5349 Рік тому +6

      Saw this one fly right over me. Impending storm rolled in the next morning. Likely a strong gust as we were on its windiest side of rotation in the Daytona area around the time of this video.

    • @JimWhitaker
      @JimWhitaker Рік тому +1

      Thank you, I was wondering about that.

    • @liam3284
      @liam3284 Рік тому

      wind at 19 gusting 30, assuming knots.

  • @leeaf7
    @leeaf7 Рік тому

    "Stand" for EU/Oceania pilots means "Gate" to Americans. FAA controllers and ground ops guys clearly got confused and gave the crew hard stand option, thinking they meant hard (or remote) stand. Interesting differences among the people who speak the same language but not so same. However, there is also possibility that DAB's jetbridge is not tall enough for heavies like A330.

  • @RonPiggott
    @RonPiggott Рік тому

    Better to divert than be stuck at 30,000 feet on fire. I think of Swiss Air 111 when I hear these things.

  • @spelldaddy5386
    @spelldaddy5386 Рік тому +14

    Interesting decision to go around. Usually a go around is safer than trying to force the aircraft down and crashing, but in a situation where there is fire/smoke onboard, it is probably best to spend as little time in that sealed tube as possible. Granted, they said the smoke was dissipating, but who knows if you climb away from the airport it might immediately come back or get worse. Going around on an engine failure is one thing, where the aircraft is in relatively stable condition, but fire/smoke seems much more risky to go around unless the approach is REALLY bad

    • @afh7689
      @afh7689 Рік тому +3

      Plus downgrading to a pan. Smoke might be dissipating, but there's still smoke.

    • @VASAviation
      @VASAviation  Рік тому +24

      It's a go around because of an unstable approach.

    • @jarrettberl6166
      @jarrettberl6166 Рік тому

      @@VASAviation what does that mean?

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Рік тому +1

      Pretty poor piloting if you have an emergency, divert for a “land at nearest suitable” and then cock it up and go around.

    • @flyaround5953
      @flyaround5953 Рік тому +9

      @@EdOeuna you also gotta take in account they were dealing with winds from incoming Hurricane Nicole so that didn’t help either

  • @RATINDEXA320
    @RATINDEXA320 Рік тому

    this whole PAN vs MAYDAY in the US is kind of useless... great video

  • @MannySilva
    @MannySilva Рік тому +1

    When did the call sign change from shamrock to green flight?

    • @josephspinner4231
      @josephspinner4231 Рік тому +1

      This is Aer Lingus UK, not Aer Lingus Ireland. Aer Lingus (EIN) is still identified as Shamrock, Aer Lingus UK (EUK) is identified as Greenflight. :)

  • @jmcmillen19
    @jmcmillen19 Рік тому

    I thought they were shamrock?
    Edit: of course I look at older comments and find the answer

  • @stephenconnolly2582
    @stephenconnolly2582 Рік тому

    Aerlingus codename is shamrock not green?

  • @musman9853
    @musman9853 Рік тому +11

    Wasn't aer lingus' call sign shamrock

  • @haydenfox16
    @haydenfox16 Рік тому +4

    Daytona controllers are typically excellent but it seemed like they were a little unprepared for this situation.

    • @josephspinner4231
      @josephspinner4231 Рік тому +1

      Definitely. I’m sure this will be used as a training example in the future.

    • @fuzion7905
      @fuzion7905 Рік тому +2

      to be fair that day they also evacuated like over 60 riddle planes because of the hurricane

  • @JohnDoe-sg1pd
    @JohnDoe-sg1pd Рік тому

    Who is Green Flight? No more Shamrock?

  • @daveschmidt1601
    @daveschmidt1601 Рік тому +8

    When did Aer Lingus change their callsign from Shamrock to Green Flight

    • @nancyoffenhiser4916
      @nancyoffenhiser4916 Рік тому

      Agreed

    • @adyx
      @adyx Рік тому +11

      It's Aer Lingus UK, hence the English accents the pilots have

    • @danielforrester5265
      @danielforrester5265 26 днів тому

      I think it is the callsign of Aer Lingus UK based in Manchester.

  • @theEagleBeagle
    @theEagleBeagle Рік тому

    Orlando wouldn't have been that far to go back to. so really must've been urgent.

    • @josephspinner4231
      @josephspinner4231 Рік тому

      At the time there was heavier precipitation in the Orlando area, so that could also have been a factor as well as urgency.

    • @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
      @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 Рік тому

      Down grading to a PAN shows that they weren’t that urgent

    • @flowerpower1400
      @flowerpower1400 Рік тому

      @@kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 we could smell smoke in the cockpit

    • @liam3284
      @liam3284 Рік тому

      Nobody wants another Swissair 111

  • @martintrodden2743
    @martintrodden2743 Рік тому

    Has aer lingus changed their call sign

  • @dmmtrck6310
    @dmmtrck6310 Рік тому +1

    Hi Vasa. As an Irish citizen can you please answer this question for me...as an avid flight enthusiast Aer Lingus always went under the Call Sign "SHAMROCK". When did the CS change to "GREEN FLIGHT" I'd appreciate your input....cheers

    • @Tellemore
      @Tellemore Рік тому

      Just asked the same thing … BA is taking over more and more.

    • @brook2309
      @brook2309 Рік тому

      I am no expert, but I believe Shamrock is Aer Lingus and Green Flight is Aer Lingus UK, which is a separate subsidiary

    • @dmmtrck6310
      @dmmtrck6310 Рік тому

      Brook2309 thank you for your clarification on the diff between Green Flight and Shamrock origins. But if there is another reason for the name change would love to hear.

    • @ethanrayhorn
      @ethanrayhorn Рік тому

      It didn’t change. Aer Lingus operated flights still use Shamrock as the callsign. This flight was operated by Aer Lingus UK which is a different airline with a separate AOC# (air operator’s certificate). Aer Lingus, as you know, operates flights to Ireland. Aer Lingus UK was created as a UK registered airline to allow service directly from a foreign country to the UK. Currently Manchester, UK is the only Aer Lingus UK base. The aircraft operated by the UK company were transferred from Aer Lingus but were re-registered with UK (G) registrations instead of Irish (EI) registrations. Every airline with a unique AOC must have a different callsign, which is where the Greenflight callsign comes in. Orlando actually has both Shamrock AND Greenflight callsigns. MCO-DUB is operated by an Irish aircraft and uses Shamrock callsign, whereas MCO-MAN is operated by UK aircraft and uses Greenflight. Both aircraft carry the same paint scheme on the outside so an uninformed passenger wouldn’t know the difference except for the Irish or UK flag on the tail.

    • @dmmtrck6310
      @dmmtrck6310 Рік тому

      Ethanrayhorn4336 thank you for a very informative explanation. It clarifies everything. Also a previous viewer stated the same thing. Thank you to you both.

  • @tobysong7323
    @tobysong7323 Рік тому

    Was it“ hard stand”the ops said?😮

  • @rccosplay3249
    @rccosplay3249 Рік тому

    Orlando to Manchester? Should be Orlando to Ireland somewhere??

    • @VASAviation
      @VASAviation  Рік тому +2

      To Manchester, yes

    • @corkstudentpilot
      @corkstudentpilot Рік тому +3

      No it's Aer Lingus UK, which is a subsidiary of the main airline. So they have British registered aircraft and are based in Manchester.

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 Рік тому +1

      @@corkstudentpilot Aer Lingus, their subsidiary Aer Lingus UK and also British Airways are members of the International Airlines Group IAG - next to the Lufthansa Group and Air France KLM one of the three major Legacy Carrier Groups in Europe.

    • @SPTSuperSprinter156
      @SPTSuperSprinter156 Рік тому

      @@corkstudentpilot Do they land the A330s at Manchester though? I thought anyone flying from/to Manchester had to connect through Dublin.

    • @KevinAndrew350
      @KevinAndrew350 Рік тому

      @@SPTSuperSprinter156 It's a wholly owned subsidiary based at Manchester operating New York, Orlando and Barbados with a based A321LR and A333.

  • @JimWhitaker
    @JimWhitaker Рік тому

    Interesting that they are not on oxygen masks.

  • @kiranclarke869
    @kiranclarke869 Рік тому +6

    wow aer lingus UK only owns 2 aircraft, if something happened to this one it would literally be half of their fleet gone. (ik it's just a subsidary but still...)

    • @patricknovoa7699
      @patricknovoa7699 Рік тому +4

      It’s still down I’m Daytona too so they only have half their fleet operational lol

  • @Tellemore
    @Tellemore Рік тому

    If this is an Aer Lingus flight why are they using “Green Flight” instead of “Shamrock”? An English crew and GB registration makes it clear the Aer Lingus brand is no longer Irish- pity.

  • @cdtaylor7732
    @cdtaylor7732 Рік тому

    Seemed a bit of a crap show there. Lots of hands an no clear voice. I’m shocked Ops didn’t just request the field and priority to be the lead voice

  • @N1120A
    @N1120A Рік тому +1

    Seems like the crew wasn't all that experienced flying in the US.

    • @VASAviation
      @VASAviation  Рік тому +1

      Why?

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A Рік тому +8

      @@VASAviation emergencies don't get downgraded in the US - PAN and mayday are treated the same. They also weren't assertive in asking for what they wanted, which is what you generally want to do - let them know from the start you want the ILS, let them know you prefer radar vectors - especially if you're unfamiliar with the chart because you are busy and didn't have time to properly brief. Use "heavy" with approach, especially if you have a call sign that ends in Hotel.

    • @N1120A
      @N1120A Рік тому +5

      @@craig7350 well, not exactly. Remember that can vary up to 5 degrees. That is not insignificant. I-DAB, however, is a 070 course.

    • @EdOeuna
      @EdOeuna Рік тому +3

      @@craig7350 - I expect the tower to know what the magnetic direction of the runway is. In my experience you need this to manually tune the ILS.

    • @VASAviation
      @VASAviation  Рік тому +9

      Tower needs to know the exact course of their instrument approaches

  • @reconnectgaming9996
    @reconnectgaming9996 Рік тому +1

    Bloody shame aerlingus isn't Irish anymore. Greenflight. Should be shamrock EI instead of EUK.

    • @VASAviation
      @VASAviation  Рік тому +6

      Incorrect

    • @reconnectgaming9996
      @reconnectgaming9996 Рік тому +2

      Nope it's not it's ownd by AIG that own BA and ibera. Not irish anymore!

    • @josephspinner4231
      @josephspinner4231 Рік тому +1

      This is Aer Lingus UK, so it’s not technically Irish Aer Lingus

    • @dmorgandub
      @dmorgandub Рік тому +1

      Aer Lingus is still EI and Shamrock, but they set up a UK Subsidiary (Aer Lingus UK) after Brexit which is EUK and Green

    • @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549
      @kickedinthecalfbyacow7549 Рік тому

      @@reconnectgaming9996 aerlingus is still Irish, just the same as Iberia is Spanish and BA is British

  • @k1mgy
    @k1mgy Рік тому

    ATC standards have obviously slipped. No phoetics. Numbers expressed in non-standard manner. Lack of familiarity with PAN. Awful!

    • @jayschafer1760
      @jayschafer1760 Рік тому

      I'm not terribly impressed with ATC either, but no one can be on their absolute A game and perfect all the time, and the controllers could have been MUCH worse or they could have panicked.
      I'm sure that the supervisors have already reviewed the tapes multiple times and coached not just the controllers in question but also the rest of their staff how to do things differently/better next time.

    • @RATINDEXA320
      @RATINDEXA320 Рік тому

      lol. in the US they spell it like that a lot... it works just fine, it's a lot faster... i can see your point where english is second language to everyone involved.

    • @RATINDEXA320
      @RATINDEXA320 Рік тому

      @@jayschafer1760 you probably never flown in DAB. these are one of the best controllers in the nation. the amount of traffic these guys work is insane. i visited the tracon 3 times when I instructed out of there. top notch controllers. 715,336 operations in a year that's almost 2000 a day.

  • @EdOeuna
    @EdOeuna Рік тому +3

    Imagine diverting with a fire/smoke on board then stuffing up the approach and having to fly a go around. Did they get their licences in a corn flakes packet?

    • @VASAviation
      @VASAviation  Рік тому +32

      Why that lack of respect to the crew?

    • @AMN12345
      @AMN12345 Рік тому +19

      @@VASAviation I'd have a lot less respect for the crew, if they'd landed from an unstable approach. Every approach is a go around with an option to land - that's a good rule to remember.

    • @NicolaW72
      @NicolaW72 Рік тому +1

      @@AMN12345 Indeed.

    • @dalydegagne1839
      @dalydegagne1839 Рік тому +7

      Ed your disrespect for the pilots is uncalled for. You are a one trick pony whose first response is get on the ground right away. Everything's not always as clear cut as you might like.

    • @PetrolHeadBrasil
      @PetrolHeadBrasil Рік тому +2

      Ed, go ahead an do better, a$$hole.....

  • @mikek5298
    @mikek5298 Рік тому

    Another blow to the Airbus fanboys. First Korean Air grounds their A330s and now more problems popping up. Looks like Airbus puts profits before safety.