Street Fighter Retrospective - Part 2 - Following Up a Legend

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  • Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
  • Welcome back World Warriors. After the massive success of Street Fighter 2, where could Capcom take this series? In a lot of unexpected directions, that's where.
    Thank you to MakoWako ( www.tumblr.com/makowako / makozy ) for the great thumbnail art, go follow and support them.
    And also go follow the artist behind the original thumbnail art for this video that we show off at the end of the video, Danuskocampos ( / danuskocampos / danuskocampos )
    If you want to learn more about Street Fighter EX 3 then check out the video GuileWinQuotes did on it • The Most Misunderstood...
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    0:00 - Intro
    4:39 - The Making of Street Fighter Alpha
    17:13 - Street Fighter Alpha
    25:42 - The Alpha Roster
    34:08 - Secret Fights
    42:46 - Character Endings
    46:19 - Street Fighter Alpha 2
    53:13 - Alpha 2's Roster
    58:22 - Secret Fights and Character Engins
    1:03:32 - Street Fighter Alpha 3 and the ISM system
    1:07:30 - Alpha 3's Roster
    1:13:38 - Bison and Individual Stories
    1:22:38 - Home Ports of Alpha 3
    1:37:55 - Street Fighter EX
    1:41:35 - EX Gameplay
    1:46:50 - EX's Roster
    1:56:40 - EX2
    2:03:10 - EX3
    2:25:27 - Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 826

  • @C.V317
    @C.V317 Рік тому +425

    Itsuno: You hired me because I played fighting games, hurled insults at me, and left me such a wreck that I began to hate the word “sense” because you said I had none.
    Funamizu: I’m sorry, I don’t remember any of it. For you, the day I gave you that job was the most important day of your life. But for me, it was Tuesday.

    • @Wolf10media
      @Wolf10media Рік тому +12

      😄

    • @coreywong6229
      @coreywong6229 11 місяців тому +23

      Funamizu is M. Bison confirmed

    • @TheSuperSmashBros01
      @TheSuperSmashBros01 8 місяців тому +19

      I swear Funamizu must’ve had something against Itsuno to keep throwing insults at

    • @drew8235
      @drew8235 7 місяців тому +3

      Just watched that movie last night. O.o

    • @raikoedgymoto
      @raikoedgymoto 24 дні тому

      Ladies and gentlemen
      The man who singlehandedly saved Devil May Cry was forged out of spite

  • @lionscave5256
    @lionscave5256 Рік тому +503

    "Even within the Street Fighter universe, you can't just go around beating up random people."
    Meanwhile in Street Fighter 6...

    • @Jamester445
      @Jamester445 Рік тому +126

      To be fair this is after Cody become mayor and signed into law that all Metro City citizens can just randomly start brawls with no consequences.

    • @lionscave5256
      @lionscave5256 Рік тому +25

      @@Jamester445 True enough lol

    • @user-pj1ec5om5g
      @user-pj1ec5om5g Рік тому +35

      Considering Metro city’s history that’s like calling Detroit the norm of the world lol

    • @furrybproductions
      @furrybproductions Рік тому +6

      ​@@user-pj1ec5om5gor Gary Indiana before that 🤣

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Рік тому +9

      ​@@Jamester445And somehow that spread across the world.

  • @DarthEnderX
    @DarthEnderX Рік тому +303

    "Adon is the Starscream of the Muay Thai world." is perfect.

    • @Steve.Matheus
      @Steve.Matheus 11 місяців тому +51

      "SAGAT HAS FALLEN, I, ADON AM YOUR NEW LEADER"

    • @misterjersey5460
      @misterjersey5460 11 місяців тому +10

      ​@@Steve.Matheusliterally starscream

    • @megamarsonic
      @megamarsonic 7 місяців тому +20

      Adon: “Call me the Emperor of Muay Thai… and don’t tell Sagat we had this conversation.”

    • @DarthEnderX
      @DarthEnderX 7 місяців тому +5

      "JAGUAR SLEEPOVER!"

    • @willthelemon5681
      @willthelemon5681 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@Steve.MatheusThat's so perfect lmao

  • @yalborap
    @yalborap Рік тому +295

    Okay, but the idea of Sakura having a Raging Demon is hilarious. Not least because the animation has *none* of the Satsui no Hado shadow-float bullshit, so it *completely* looks like she just saw Akuma do it from afar, went "Oh wow, that is *super rad* " and copied the basic concept of 'charge inside their guard and go full ham' without picking up any of the actual intent of the technique.
    And there is something pure and beautiful about the idea of Sakura accidentally subverting the entire endgoal of the martial art she's kinda half learning, half copying, half mutating into a totally new thing. Like, that is actually an extremely Sakura thing to do.

    • @369destroyer
      @369destroyer Рік тому +45

      She did somehow get a photo with Akuma, maybe this is how she got his respect to do so XD

    • @Hawaiiitalian
      @Hawaiiitalian Рік тому +46

      ​@@369destroyerher and elena are the only ppl i know that managed to get a photo with akuma and survive

    • @730Flare
      @730Flare Рік тому +31

      This sort off fits my headcanon from back in the day that Dark/Sunburn Sakura from the VS series is a what-if version of Sakura who decided to idolize Akuma instead of Ryu.

    • @GlitchanBlack
      @GlitchanBlack Рік тому +14

      What's funny is that this basically makes Sakura the first mimic character in fighting games.

    • @teh1archon
      @teh1archon Рік тому +9

      @@GlitchanBlack nah, that would be Reptile and Shang-Tsung in the first Mortal Kombat.

  • @LadyLockwood92
    @LadyLockwood92 Рік тому +133

    One of my favourite jokes about Street Fighter was from a UK tech show where they made a joke prediction that a future Street Fighter game's roster would include 'Every human who ever lived...and Dan.'

    • @arran4285
      @arran4285 6 місяців тому +11

      Seth is the nearest thing to "Every human who ever lived...and Dan" because of the whole absorbing someone's fighting techniques

  • @furrybproductions
    @furrybproductions Рік тому +165

    "The only thing Capcom could do was create Street Fighter 3...Capcom proceeded to NOT make Street Fighter 3."
    💯% accurate and I'm 💀

    • @Wolf10media
      @Wolf10media Рік тому +25

      You can't trust Capcom. But, you can always trust Capcom to be Capcom.

    • @glacierwolf2155
      @glacierwolf2155 23 дні тому +1

      Honestly, I do not blame them.
      The weight of the pressure & expectations to essentially create Street Fighter 2 2 must have been _immense._

  • @Lenoh
    @Lenoh Рік тому +19

    Man, ‘96 and ‘97 must have been great times to be a sax player.
    * Arashi No Saxophone 2 from SNK
    * Sakura’s theme from Arika
    * Bill Clinton won his 2nd term as President of the United States, beating Bob Dole after Mr. Dole fell off a stage.

  • @FullOedipus
    @FullOedipus Рік тому +93

    "You must withstand my crunch time to stand a chance" - Capcom

    • @kokoro_gospel
      @kokoro_gospel Рік тому +27

      "I have the strongest deadline in the world." - Street Fighter Alpha

  • @OccuredJakub12
    @OccuredJakub12 Рік тому +13

    "If M.Bison is so great, why isn't there an M.Bison 2?"
    Arika: 🤔

  • @MrFutago87
    @MrFutago87 Рік тому +47

    1:09:53 "Even within the Street Fighter universe you can't just go around beating up random people"
    Street Fighter 6 World Tour Mode: 👀

    • @elijahwatson3474
      @elijahwatson3474 Рік тому +11

      Tbf, we are in a previous crime ridden city (that become crime ridden again in the far future) not to mention the mayor.

  • @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17
    @Wolfiyeethegranddukecerberus17 Рік тому +555

    Great video, but few lore mistakes:
    1. Rose is Italian
    2. Eliza is the sister of Guile's wife, not Guile

    • @thirdworldrenegade
      @thirdworldrenegade Рік тому +27

      Thanks. I thought maybe there were some retcons I missed.

    • @OccuredJakub12
      @OccuredJakub12 Рік тому +49

      3. In the Street Fighter universe you can actually beat up random people on the streets at least circa SF6
      (Maybe due to Mayor Cody's change in policies?)

    • @Mclucasrv
      @Mclucasrv Рік тому +7

      Yeah the way that look like he was running to releases this somethings slip up.

    • @marche800
      @marche800 Рік тому +27

      Robe being Italian is another reference to Lisa Lisa

    • @TheSwordsman100
      @TheSwordsman100 Рік тому +20

      4. He also missed that Cody was framed by Eddie E. first before he developed those tendinces. (Even then in the games proper he only breaks out to beat up bad guys) Mike was able to get Cody out of prison by revealing he was framed in V and thats also part of reason he and Lucia have such a close relationship all of the sudden. (As she was also framed in FF3)
      @OccuredJakub12
      Only thing said about Cody in SF6 is that continued all of Mike's polices.

  • @VibingJon
    @VibingJon Рік тому +99

    So for the promotional art at 2:04:33, If I had to take an educated guess it is actually a reference to Skullomania's inspiration; the original Kamen Rider series from 1971. In which the main character Takeshi Hongo is abducted by an evil organization and forcibly turned into a cyborg that after breaking out becomes the hero Kamen Rider. The promotional art itself just like the episode has Ryu strapped down in the exact same way Hongo is in the 1st episode with him struggling to break free while in a sparsely lit up laboratory and completely surrounded. If you want to get an idea for yourself of what I am talking about, the first episode of Kamen Rider is available for free on youtube in HD quality. So while I don't know 100% if this was the inspiration, the scenes are so similar that I would say it is near definite.

    • @negansare4615
      @negansare4615 Рік тому +20

      And it's also a reference to Kamen rider's original "inspiration": skull man

    • @VibingJon
      @VibingJon Рік тому +1

      @@negansare4615 Yep

    • @zellaus2649
      @zellaus2649 Рік тому +6

      I’d say it probably is 100%, it’s the only logical explanation to why that promotional art even exists

    • @VibingJon
      @VibingJon Рік тому +3

      @@zellaus2649 My only problem with saying 100% is I don't have a source of saying it is the case. That is why I say near definite, but I do think it was the inspo.

    • @conradojavier7547
      @conradojavier7547 11 місяців тому +2

      & Shadow Giest look like the Second Kamen Rider hit the Gym.

  • @KevinSkye1
    @KevinSkye1 Рік тому +23

    I remember as a kid I was lowkey traumatized when I lost against Bison in Alpha 3. I couldn't fathom that my favorite was just getting milked and I couldn't do anything about it because I lost.

  • @firebreathingsnapdragon3344
    @firebreathingsnapdragon3344 Рік тому +35

    “6-part series.”
    CALLED IT.

    • @glacierwolf2155
      @glacierwolf2155 23 дні тому

      Part 1: Street Fighter 1 & 2 Series
      Part 2: Street Fighter Alpha Series & Street Fighter Ex Series
      Part 3: Street Fighter 3 Series
      Part 4: Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game & Other Street Fighter Media
      Part 5: Street Fighter 4 Series & Street Fighter x Tekken
      Part 6: Street Fighter 5 & All 5 Seasons of DLC

  • @TrueZero2
    @TrueZero2 Рік тому +15

    2:04:20 Oh god, that Skullomania poster is a GIGANTIC reference to the original Kamen Rider.

  • @kumaradio5414
    @kumaradio5414 Рік тому +28

    For context, the picture of Skullomania about to operate on Ryu is a reference to Kamen Rider, who was a motorcycle rider named Hongo Takeshi that got turned into a Cyborn by the evil organization Shocker

  • @GlitchanBlack
    @GlitchanBlack Рік тому +236

    Sakura & Akuma are STANCED UP in this thumbnail and I love it.

    • @DasNordlicht91
      @DasNordlicht91 Рік тому +35

      I like that they're the "representatives" for SF Alpha in the thumbnail, mainly because they're essentially the two characters that are probably synonymous with the Alpha games more than anyone else. (I know Akuma appeared in Super SFII Turbo, but it's the Alpha series where he got further fleshed out.)

    • @PGO5490
      @PGO5490 Рік тому +6

      Honestly my favorite thumbnail

    • @user-pj1ec5om5g
      @user-pj1ec5om5g Рік тому

      I find it also funny that both of them are in the opposite spectrum of fighters with Sakura being the goofy dork fighter and Akuma is the most evil looking fight loving fuck you’ll ever see lol

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte Рік тому +3

      THIS IS THE STANCE!

    • @carlbloke8797
      @carlbloke8797 11 місяців тому +8

      Honestly it’s my favorite thumbnail. On top of their sick poses, Sakura pretty much is the top representative of the Alpha era due to how much of her character is fleshed out, having her own manga, got the most crossovers and basically being one of the most popular SF characters of all time now.
      Akuma to an extent as well, since this is when he actually started to get more fleshed out as a character.
      There is Dan too who also quickly became a fan favorite and him along with Sakura got a number of crossovers in the 90s from Puzzle Fighter to MVC

  • @YophiGames
    @YophiGames Рік тому +50

    Cody was arrested because he was framed by Poison and arrested by Edi E. The Poison part seems to have been retconned because Cody and Poison are pretty friendly in SFV. He always beat up bad guys. His heart was always to help Metro City. Even as mayor, he is literally recruiting old Mad Gear members to try and reform them to help Metro City because he knows you can’t just Street Fight in order to defeat corruption.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi 11 місяців тому +8

      Or maybe time has passed and Cody kinda got over that framing stuff. It's not outside the realm of possibility that Cody could have looked past Poison's actions since that was part of Cody's imprisonment.

    • @YophiGames
      @YophiGames 11 місяців тому +6

      @@dnmstarsi That’s possible, but I think the more probable idea is that Cody wouldn’t. Considering he was bitter the entire time he was in prison…I don’t see him acting as if Poison didn’t do what he did. It’s an important part of his character growth. It makes more sense that they retconned it (or that it was never canon in the first place 😂)

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi 11 місяців тому +2

      @@YophiGames I don't think Cody was THAT bitter but that's just me.

    • @YophiGames
      @YophiGames 11 місяців тому +3

      @@dnmstarsi you don’t think so? His lines continuously had an “I gave up on myself a long time ago” feel. He continuously talks about how he doesn’t care anymore and does his best to hide the fact that all the people he keeps fighting are actually bad guys 😂. He didn’t like his prison time because whenever someone tried to give him hope, he never took it. He even told Guy that he was going back where he belongs.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi 11 місяців тому +4

      @@YophiGames I can see Cody not give a damn anymore but grudge or alike is another story which is why I can believe that Poison would get him framed but he'll get over it just as long as you don't upset him or alike.

  • @misterjersey5460
    @misterjersey5460 Рік тому +126

    If there's one thing I like about alpha and ex, it's:
    1. The references to the Sf2 movie in alpha 1 and 2
    2: *SKULLOMANIA*

  • @coversbythevman5945
    @coversbythevman5945 Рік тому +25

    Retrospective on my birthday?
    Best gift ever

  • @starpencil
    @starpencil Рік тому +37

    This series is legendary. That entire breakdown of Alpha ones development blew my mind.

  • @hitmanmonaghan6633
    @hitmanmonaghan6633 Рік тому +26

    I got exited when I saw Guy in Alpha. Was hoping Cody would show up, and when he did, I was disappointed he was a prisoner. At least he had a great arch becoming the mayor.

  • @MarioGMan25
    @MarioGMan25 Рік тому +22

    Oh so my interpretation of Akuma's reaction to Thanos *stealing* the Satsui No Hadou is accurate. (In which he ambushes Thanos and kicks the ever loving shit out of him)

  • @leekebot1802
    @leekebot1802 Рік тому +64

    Can you imagine what history would have been like if Capcom had halfway decent leadership? I swear it's only because their rank and file was talented and possibly insane (given the development time on Alpha) and also a lot of luck, that they managed to make those games.

    • @jirehtheprovider
      @jirehtheprovider 11 місяців тому +18

      From the way you describe it, it weirdly sounds like Nintendo too with this sentence from it's fans
      "It's Game Developers are godlike, but damn we hate their business and legalese side of their company."

  • @VictorHernandez-nj2lo
    @VictorHernandez-nj2lo Рік тому +42

    Actually, Dhalsim's stretchy limbs were based on a villain from the movie master of the flying guillotine

    • @tyeefahmonk4146
      @tyeefahmonk4146 Рік тому +1

      Yoga Toga Tsung

    • @tyeefahmonk4146
      @tyeefahmonk4146 Рік тому +2

      Zantetsu from Last Blade was inspired by that movie as well. "Win Without A Knife" Y Akuma

  • @christopheraustin5915
    @christopheraustin5915 Рік тому +20

    In the street fighter season of the exceed card game, Dan Hibiki’s gimmick was that he gained power and speed on wild swings (drawing from face down). His deck was built around drawing random cards, a lot of which would miss because they weren’t in range.
    I really liked how they tailored the mechanics for him as a joke character

  • @wingbeck4563
    @wingbeck4563 Рік тому +46

    Alpha 3 my favorite Street Fighter game love it so much I wish we get Dramatic Battle in the games again that was my favorite mode.

  • @ZerogGames
    @ZerogGames Рік тому +32

    This video actually made me realize that Kyosuke was the one character on the Capcom side in Capcom vs. SNK 2 who wasn't eventually added into a version of Alpha 3.
    Damn shame he wasn't, if he had been, he would have been the first playable Rival Schools character in a Street Fighter game before Akira in SF5.

    • @collaterale1
      @collaterale1 Рік тому +8

      There is a reason why. As you already know, Thorgi mentioned in his Rival Schools retrospective that the series originally takes place in a seperate universe, and because of Sakura's appearance in the first game, people are speculating that Rival Schools is linked to Street Fighter for decades, and it wasn't until Street Fighter 5 with Akira's inclusion that the developers finally confirmed that both series are indeed connected with each other.

    • @user-pz5du5nz7j
      @user-pz5du5nz7j 7 місяців тому +5

      @@collaterale1 To be fair,Ingrid was also playable in a version of Alpha 3,and her place in canon is...a bit messy to put it lightly. So I don't think canon was that big of a concern.

    • @neogenesis7706
      @neogenesis7706 5 місяців тому

      Batsu in tvc

  • @gameboi20
    @gameboi20 Рік тому +47

    So fun fact Karin was originally supposed to be playable in marvel superheroes VS SF there is code in the games files that Karin was gonna be a pallet swap of Sakura but due to limitations and a deadline to make she was cut

  • @Mushroomandyou
    @Mushroomandyou Рік тому +18

    I knew of Dan but I’d never seen his animations before. The flying kickS and short range one hand fireball are SO Ryo/SNK

  • @austinfletchermusic
    @austinfletchermusic Рік тому +12

    I love Eagle so much. He's legit a badass

  • @DouglasStewart99
    @DouglasStewart99 Рік тому +33

    Honestly, if I had to answer which Street Fighter game introduced me to the series it was both Alpha and EX that did that when I was a kid. Never owned the two game entries, but I have played them before. So this part is a treat for me.
    1:55:30-1:56:29 *BLESS YOU* Thorgi for mentioning the music of the EX series! I literally have all the entries OST on both my laptop and phone. Shinji Hosoe and the rest of his squad's music should not be overlooked! Especially since these people would be responsible for other banger game OSTs such as MegaMan Network Transmission & Naruto's Clash of Ninja franchise.

  • @liquidsnake23
    @liquidsnake23 Рік тому +7

    FUN FACT: when i was younger i liked Juli for her darker hair but she had less moveset than cammy and juni. There's a Street fighter character history book from udon which states for her, that she couldnt be as efficient in her fighting style due to her "build". I'm guessing she didnt have aerodynamics. :P

  • @baberuthless
    @baberuthless Рік тому +39

    The alpha series is my favorite and im so excited to check this out! Your retrospectives are the best in the biz

    • @TalkSickMass
      @TalkSickMass Рік тому +2

      Thorgi forgot to highlight that many of the Alpha sprites of the classic characters were traced over the SF2 versions.

    • @emaculatej650
      @emaculatej650 Рік тому +4

      I played alpha 2 more than I ever played sf2 so I agree

  • @DasNordlicht91
    @DasNordlicht91 Рік тому +19

    Alpha 3's aesthetic might be my favorite of any fighting game ever. The selection screen, round graphics, life bars, over-the-top announcer commenting on your match... it just all clicks.

    • @Exlayer-pk8hy
      @Exlayer-pk8hy Рік тому +4

      It's got such a "90's on it's death bed" asthetic, i love it.

    • @leithaziz2716
      @leithaziz2716 Рік тому +2

      I would love to see Arcsystem Works involved in a potential Alpha 4 if Capcom ever decided on a new game. With input from both companies, they could create something amazing.

    • @villian99918
      @villian99918 5 місяців тому

      @@Exlayer-pk8hyI think it’s aged well because a lot of that late 90s/ Y2K stuff is cool again, between that and the soundtrack the game feels at home somehow decades later

    • @yuzuichikawa
      @yuzuichikawa 4 місяці тому

      GO FOR BROKE!!!!!

  • @SquallNoctisGUX
    @SquallNoctisGUX Рік тому +10

    I still think it’s absolutely hilarious how Capcom gained so much success from SF2 and didn’t go into SF3 afterwards especially considering how many titles they would churn out in the 90’s 🤣

  • @MaverickZeroD
    @MaverickZeroD Рік тому +12

    1:29:52 I remember once reading that Kyosuke was supposed to be added to the GBA version of SFA3. So I was shocked when they didn't add him. When the PSP version was released, I thought he'd be added then. I was surprised it was Ingrid but I didn't mind. I liked her. But I was also wishing that they added Kyosuke instead or additionally. It would've made more sense.

  • @KnaveMurdok
    @KnaveMurdok 11 місяців тому +3

    I am floored to learn that those Street Fighter 1 portraits are fanart from a magazine. I've been seeing those pictures for like 25 years and I always had just assumed they were the official art for the game.

  • @MrSkerpentine
    @MrSkerpentine Рік тому +8

    Now begs the real question:
    Can Cracker Jack stop the Train in GTA 5????

  • @freddyalejo1657
    @freddyalejo1657 Рік тому +12

    The one thing that will always come to mind when I think of Street Fighter Alpha 2 is that awesome intro. The visuals combined with that incredible theme music just really draws me to that game for so many years now.

  • @Exlayer-pk8hy
    @Exlayer-pk8hy Рік тому +12

    The Street fighter Alpha part of the franchise is easily my favorite.
    I love the heavy anime asthetic of these games a lot more than the styles of the other games

    • @user-oi1iq6tt4j
      @user-oi1iq6tt4j Рік тому

      Same though I want that hd remix one so bad 😆

  • @bookishdelight
    @bookishdelight Рік тому +15

    Ayyyyyy, nice job getting this out for EVO weekend :D
    Sigh. I _adored_ Ingrid and Area when they originally popped up, then got to see them cold-shouldered for the rest of my life. Same as it ever was, I guess.

    • @coreywong6229
      @coreywong6229 11 місяців тому

      Then in 6 Ingrid trolls us all.

  • @williammcguire130
    @williammcguire130 Рік тому +31

    I'm so excited for the EX series to get covered

    • @harrylane4
      @harrylane4 Рік тому +2

      ??? He already covered it here

    • @williammcguire130
      @williammcguire130 Рік тому +5

      @@harrylane4 I was saying that I was excited about that.

  • @marcbraun5342
    @marcbraun5342 Рік тому +14

    Itsuno went through the "what doesn't break* you, makes you stronger"-school of development and now he's the god among game directors.
    That payed out huge, now we know his name and I've already forgotten the name of the jerk who insulted him. He did his part though.
    *small liberties taken in the quote here.

  • @Tedris4
    @Tedris4 Рік тому +24

    On the "simpler" thing
    I remember getting downvoted on Reddit for saying that the simplified and more fluid combo systems in Guilty Gear Strive betas were a work in progress and they'd improve the feel with further dev time. They also insisted that it would be a failure cause it was "losing hardcore fans"...
    The FGC really needs some reality checks sometimes.

    • @glacierwolf2155
      @glacierwolf2155 23 дні тому +3

      Yeah, the FGC has a _huge_ elitism problem, unfortunately.
      The community stays afloat because new people join it, not because the top dogs keep coming back.
      Fighting games developers will cater to the casuals and make their games simpler & more beginner-friendly because _that's where most of the money comes from._
      Plus, expert fighting game players _already_ have the perfect games for them with their favorite mechanics: The older titles and mods of the newer titles.

  • @TalkSickMass
    @TalkSickMass Рік тому +18

    SF co-creator Hiroshi Matsumoto was the main guy behind Art of Fighting though Nishiyama head produce the development.

  • @timothygarcia1682
    @timothygarcia1682 Рік тому +36

    I love the alpha series

  • @thirdworldrenegade
    @thirdworldrenegade Рік тому +14

    1:14:14
    Bison's Psycho Drive Crusher is unblockable in the air, no matter which ISM is chosen.

    • @villian99918
      @villian99918 5 місяців тому

      One of the ways you used to be able to cheese it was with a well timed shoryuken so the hit wouldn’t register. Took me forever to get the timing right as a kid

    • @glacierwolf2155
      @glacierwolf2155 23 дні тому

      Sometimes, it really is just a knowledge check.

  • @Rocklee13419
    @Rocklee13419 Рік тому +35

    I just got into the Street Fighter series from these retrospectives. Thanks for creating these amazing videos that has gotten me into such a goated franchise. THE HYPE IS REAL! 🎉

    • @AtJoee230
      @AtJoee230 11 місяців тому

      Pfp checks out

  • @bloodycard6314
    @bloodycard6314 Рік тому +7

    Glad to see the ex series aside from its amazing sountrack finally getting some love after all those years, the ex games where ahead of its time and with so many hidden secrets.

  • @thetruej7872
    @thetruej7872 Рік тому +43

    Street Fighter 3 is my favorite in the franchise. I love they put the "Street" in Street Fighter 3 and most of the newcomers were awesome! Elena, Dudley, Ibuki, Makoto, Necro, Twelve, Q, Oro, Alex, and Sean are cool newcomers imo. Only one I don't care for was Remy. Plus the soundtrack is a banger.

    • @WokioWolfy
      @WokioWolfy Рік тому +7

      True, but damn, did that game had to go through thick and thin to be recognized as a great game. People only thought of it as Ryu, Ken and a bunch of weirdos.

    • @Tungdil_01
      @Tungdil_01 Рік тому

      ​@@WokioWolfy back in the day I was one of these people. At that time I complained even with Alpha for not having the classic characters of SF2. By the way, during the 90s I thought SF2 was the first in the franchise lol

    • @SoulBro12
      @SoulBro12 Рік тому +6

      ​@@Tungdil_01I find it funny because I'm always bothered that 2 of my go-to's (Yang and Oro) aren't playable in the same game after sf3 and don't care about the sf2 cast all too much.

    • @thetruej7872
      @thetruej7872 Рік тому

      ​@@WokioWolfyRight?

    • @scw1980
      @scw1980 Рік тому +4

      I share the sentiment I also personally like SF3 New Generation & 2nd Impact more than 3rd Strike. I will give 3rd Strike this the control was better, Makoto was introduced and Alex, Ryu, Elena Ibuki & Urien themes were improvements.

  • @Mclucasrv
    @Mclucasrv Рік тому +6

    Alpha and KoF made me care about fg stories for the better or for the worst, I wish more fighting game did those type of arcade stories instead of whatever tekken 7 and gg strive tried to do.

  • @sonicfan5833
    @sonicfan5833 Рік тому +4

    You're telling me every single fighter in Alpha 2 gets their own symbol for finishing an opponent with a Custom Combo!? The Spriters Resource... HERE I COME!

  • @orlanzo2621
    @orlanzo2621 Рік тому +6

    Me personally i always loved EX Plus Alpha the most out of the EX games, tho that may just be nostalgia because i got that game Christmas of 1998 and played the heck out of it with my little brother. I didn't play EX 2 Plus until years later. Oh yea i agree with Alpha 2>Alpha 3, i've always felt it was the better game. Anyway, absolutely loved this man, excellent work as usual Thorgi. Can't wait for part 3.

  • @mhstylesmugen
    @mhstylesmugen Рік тому +8

    There's a misunderstanding of Ingrid's story in Alpha 3 max mostly because of translation issues, she didn't come to take the psycho power from Bison, she came to take back a shard like the ones she puts on her hair that Bison stole so he can empower his Psycho drive weapon.
    As for the people who says that she came and squashed Bison and what not, in her story she said that she needs 15 minutes to beat him, that seems like a long fight for me.

  • @Coyoda
    @Coyoda Рік тому +6

    Love love love your retrospective. Was interesting learning the history behind the games creations especially. However, the earliest Combo Trial mode that I found and was released a year before street fighter ex was Fighter's History: Mizoguchi Kiki Ippatsu on the super nintendo as well as having a Tag battle mode that also pre-dates x-men vs street fighter japanese arcades by a year as well, and having the visual novel story mode gameplay you'd see with a lot of anime fighters today. It's rather obscure though of course having become more associated with SNK over time (with Mizoguchi appearing in KOF Maximum impact Regulation A).
    You could say the combo trial and tag vs mode's first appearance outside of Japan is indeed Street Fighter EX2

  • @Kinshinobi
    @Kinshinobi Рік тому +3

    That pickles on the burger line was a chef's kiss

  • @proximaeon
    @proximaeon Рік тому +5

    The artwork of the Skullmania-fied characters of Street Fighter is obviously a reference to the creation of the first Kamen Rider, as Ichigou and Nigou are both Cyborgs, modified by the evil organization Shocker.

  • @colaocha1115
    @colaocha1115 Рік тому +16

    Dan Hibiki's popularity may have been overtaken by Neko Arc over the past few years

  • @G_Gr00v3
    @G_Gr00v3 Місяць тому +2

    Bengus is easily my favorite visual artist of all time, his work on Alpha, Darkstalkers, and Marvel vs Capcom is a big reason I got into fighting games in the first place

  • @VibingJon
    @VibingJon Рік тому +9

    Bruh, I literally just watched part 1 yesterday just for this to be released today. 😆 Lucky me I guess!

  • @handbanana165
    @handbanana165 Рік тому +5

    That intro was fucking fantastic!

  • @KevinSkye1
    @KevinSkye1 Рік тому +4

    Never forget from that SF2 Animated Movie, we got "Chief Running Mouth" from Ken. I'll never forget that line and I laugh at it more as I get older.

  • @waffleboi7487
    @waffleboi7487 Рік тому +16

    The hype is real

  • @dnmstarsi
    @dnmstarsi Рік тому +6

    To me, EX3 is like Rise of the TMNT: it's not bad, just misunderstood. However, I don't see it as THAT underrated but it is definitely worth checking out and who knows, maybe you'll appreciate this more.

  • @LowellLucasJr.
    @LowellLucasJr. Рік тому +7

    Evo day + SF Thorgi = Fighting Bliss!!!❤

  • @futureartist9
    @futureartist9 Рік тому +5

    Holy crap I checked back randomly to see if part 2 was uploaded and what do you know, 4 hours ago! So excited to watch

  • @DarthEnderX
    @DarthEnderX Рік тому +7

    I miss the anime art style for SF...none of the modern era SF games uses it, even though ArcSys has perfected the tech for modern anime fighters.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Рік тому +2

      Same but at least SF didn't start with the anime artstyle. That would've been worse arguably.
      The closest we'll get is the Bengus art and alike.

    • @MonsieurMaouji
      @MonsieurMaouji Рік тому

      Yeah, same here.

  • @lazycouchman
    @lazycouchman Рік тому +6

    Just wanna say thank you for making these awesome videos!
    Usually when I see longer videos I lose interest, but your videos are always really fun and interesting to watch.

  • @BooshojoSenshi
    @BooshojoSenshi Рік тому +5

    Another excellent retrospective! I love this series and rewatch it almost daily (sleep time playlist, ftw). I appreciate the amount of work and effort put into this channel!! Thank you for the great content!

  • @gamerbear84
    @gamerbear84 Місяць тому +1

    Stroheim was the one that Guile's hair is credit for taking inspiration from. Alpha 2 on the PC is the game I credit for taking me from liking fighting games to loving 'em. I'd played SF2 and MK on my Amiga 500, Super and MKs 2 and 3 on a friend's SNES, various games at arcades, but Alpha 2 just somehow hit differently and unlocked a deeper tier of appreciation.

  • @PlatformerFan
    @PlatformerFan 9 місяців тому +2

    Crawfish Interactive’s time developing Alpha 3 Upper sounds like it was a nightmare, hot dang.

  • @Eliburgo
    @Eliburgo 11 місяців тому +4

    Love the Alpha/Zero series

  • @jonatassilva2605
    @jonatassilva2605 Рік тому +5

    Yo on EVO day? Awesome!!

  • @LonginusX11
    @LonginusX11 Рік тому +5

    1:09:57
    “ even in the street fighter universe. You can’t just go around beating up people.”
    Shoot as far as streetfighter six is concerned, you could really care less on who you pick a fight with 😂

    • @wchan39
      @wchan39 Рік тому +1

      Mayor Cody: Let's just say...we're now under new management.

  • @kimjimkun98876
    @kimjimkun98876 Рік тому +4

    The intro to this series is hype as hell

  • @Exlayer-pk8hy
    @Exlayer-pk8hy Рік тому +17

    The next Super Smash Brothers needs to have Ken's stage from Alpha 2 as his home stage. It's such a cool stage.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Рік тому +2

      That's assuming Ken is gonna return for the next game. Besides, I prefer mixing Ken's stages into one. Like with Ryu, his stage would be based on his SF2 stage but the boat is modeled after the one from SF3 and 6 but like Alpha 2 and Terry's stage, it'll have its share of cameos spectating the fight on Ken's boat.

    • @thedapperdolphin1590
      @thedapperdolphin1590 Рік тому +1

      Throw in Chun Li while we’re at it

    • @gregvs.theworld451
      @gregvs.theworld451 Рік тому

      @@thedapperdolphin1590 Man, I know they probably wouldn't want to oversaturate the roster with SF characters, and if they did Smash fans would probably get real mad about it, but I've thought to myself many times about how other SF characters would look/play in Smash. Chun, Bison, Akuma, Zangief, Dan, there's so many SF characters who'd probably look stylish af if fully adapted into Smash.

    • @Exlayer-pk8hy
      @Exlayer-pk8hy Рік тому

      @@gregvs.theworld451 I think it would be funny if future smash entries just add Akuma and Sakura on top of Ryu and Ken.
      We have 3 Links and 4 Marths so there Is a precedent for that.

    • @gregvs.theworld451
      @gregvs.theworld451 Рік тому

      @@Exlayer-pk8hy Hear me out: A secret Akuma battle at the end of classic mode where he raging demons Master Hand, and you unlock him upon defeating him.

  • @teh1archon
    @teh1archon Рік тому +4

    If my memory doesn't betray me, Shin Akuma was playable in alpha 2 on PC (I don't know why this version is reviled, I have dozens of hours in it) but it doesn't have evil Ryu. Also I didn't know you can play the secret characters in alpha 1 and God knows how many hours and quarters I spent on it in the arcades.

  • @mr.checkyourself4672
    @mr.checkyourself4672 Рік тому +13

    I wonder what will be the next fighting game Street Fighter will crossover with well we can for certain cross off a crossover with Mortal Kombat cause that ain't happening no time soon.

    • @tyrantravealpha
      @tyrantravealpha Рік тому +2

      Am I the only one hoping for a new Capcom vs SNK entry?

    • @dnkakusei
      @dnkakusei Рік тому +3

      @@tyrantravealphaI'm pretty sure SNK said that Capcom is actually interested in that!

    • @dragonbornexpress5650
      @dragonbornexpress5650 Рік тому +2

      @@dnkakusei. Given the Switch port of CVS 1 from a couple of years ago, I doubt they're lying about that; Both companies still clearly want that series to return, SNK moreso than Capcom from what it seems, so only time will tell for the results as it usually does.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Рік тому

      I'd love to see Thorgi build a roster involving Street Fighter vs Power Rangers but then again, not everyone has watched or is into Power Rangers so I doubt that'll happen along with Tatsunoko vs Capcom 2's BTR.

    • @ninjabynight6649
      @ninjabynight6649 11 місяців тому

      I remember Street Fighter vs. DC Universe was gonna happen but it was scrapped it was for the PSP I believe they were only gonna come out on if I'm not mistaken.

  • @edgarlozada3858
    @edgarlozada3858 Рік тому +3

    The Zero/Alpha series was my introduction to Street Fighter when I was a kid. Without those games (specially 3) there's a chance I may have never fully gotten into Street Fighter. So glad that I did.

    • @villian99918
      @villian99918 5 місяців тому +1

      3 was the first fighting game I really played. I played it on the ps2 as a kid since you could play the ps1 port on there. I genuinely had no idea max existed so when I ran it on emulator my mind blew

  • @SnowyOwlKonnen
    @SnowyOwlKonnen Рік тому +4

    Excellent work once again, always interesting to learn more about these games.
    And on a side note, yeah the hate for Ingrid always felt like the most artificially forced thing. As if it was a joke that people began to take seriously. It's odd.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Рік тому +1

      Yep. Sure, I don't care much for her other than her design but I really don't see the hate for her (though I also don't that much love and demand for her) other than how OPed and mysterious she came off as in Alpha 3 Max. It did make me roll my eyes over her existence but not enough to dislike her.

  • @brevin630
    @brevin630 10 місяців тому +2

    2:04:22 this art is actually in reference to the original Kamen Rider series.
    The main character, Takeshi Hongo, has his powers given to him against his will by the enemy group Shocker via surgery. The art is in reference to the first episode of the original Kamen Rider series.

  • @zacksokolowski6173
    @zacksokolowski6173 Рік тому +3

    Zack's Note: The 1 frame recycle message is the "Recycle It, Don't Trash It" screen, it's a extra in the xbox ports of the KI arcade games.

  • @25circlegaming
    @25circlegaming Рік тому +4

    2:04:50 here's the answer: it's a Kamen Rider reference, Hongo Takeshi, the 1st Kamen Rider, was operated on by the evil organization Shocker to turn him into one of their cyborg monsters but was saved before being brainwashed thus Becoming Kamen Rider
    P.S. if you look at Skullomania's design in EX2 he has the same henshin belt as Kamen Rider Ichigo and Niigo

  • @tyeefahmonk4146
    @tyeefahmonk4146 Рік тому +5

    GREAT VIDEO but another correction. Evil Ryu (Satsui No Hado Ryu) was not available on the original release of Street Fighter Zero 2 in Japan along with Champion Edition versions of Dhalsim and Zangief. He did not become playable in Japan until Street Fighter Zero 2' (Dash)

  • @TetsuDeinonychus
    @TetsuDeinonychus Рік тому +4

    Awesome retrospective, but when you got to Alpha 3, I wish you covered the "SF3: Saikyo Dojo" upgraded port that came out for the Dreamcast and Naomi arcade boards. It introduced online play and some of the extra modes and gameplay elements that you're crediting "MAX" for.

    • @dnmstarsi
      @dnmstarsi Рік тому +5

      True but MAX is just basically the complete Alpha 3 package while Dreamcast was just Alpha 3 with Online and some changes. It is arguably noteworthy but not enough to give it its own spotlight compared to GBA and PSP that have more noteworthy things to say.

  • @fernandozavaletabustos205
    @fernandozavaletabustos205 Рік тому +7

    I gotta be honest I prefer Alpha Series over the SF III because of the art style, the flashing visuals, the music and the less technical gameplay.
    I do not know if I am in the minority, but the Alpha series were more approchable for me just because I could easily play it on console. Of course that accesibility would change over time, but that first impressions and the feeling of owning a SF game in my home (I played the older games in the arcades or console rent locals) mattered a lot.

    • @stevesteve0521
      @stevesteve0521 Рік тому

      Most people do

    • @user-oi1iq6tt4j
      @user-oi1iq6tt4j Рік тому

      Agreed. SF III sucks

    • @stevesteve0521
      @stevesteve0521 Рік тому +4

      @@user-oi1iq6tt4j i wouldn’t say it sucks but people saying third strike is the best sf game just because everyone else says it is laughable to me

    • @user-oi1iq6tt4j
      @user-oi1iq6tt4j Рік тому +1

      @@stevesteve0521 lol 3rd strike? Best sf game? Hell no

    • @fernandozavaletabustos205
      @fernandozavaletabustos205 Рік тому

      I am not saying that SF III sucks, as it achieved its own very important goals for the franchise and its developers.
      I am just say that as a casual player, Alpha is more appealing for me.@@user-oi1iq6tt4j

  • @ryanperrault8174
    @ryanperrault8174 7 місяців тому +1

    Hooked on these videos, thanks for making them. Always liked fighting games but played them more casually...this has sparked something in me that has been missing for years.

  • @dvader518
    @dvader518 Рік тому +6

    So I'm guessing the remaining parts are like this:
    Part 3: SFIII series
    Part 4: Street Fighter - The Movie and associated games
    Part 5: SFIV series (including SFxT)
    Part 6: SFV and SF6 (and maybe mentions of miscellaneous games).

    • @dragonbornexpress5650
      @dragonbornexpress5650 11 місяців тому +2

      Probably more like this imo.
      Part 3: Street Fighter 3+Fall of Capcom Fighting Games.
      Part 4: Street Fighter 4 series+Street FighterXTekken
      Part 5: Street Fighter 5 series+Capcom Fighter Purge. (Referring to how they killed off even Marvel VS Capcom by 2017.)
      Part 6: Street Fighter 6+films, comics, OVA's, Street Fighter The Movie, etc.
      Time will tell for the results, of course.

    • @xavierortega6846
      @xavierortega6846 7 місяців тому

      Actually, I think it’s gonna be
      Part 3: Street Fighter 3
      Part 4: Movie/ Movie Game
      Part 5: Street Fighter 4, SF X T, 5
      Part 6: Spin-Offs and 6

    • @lavenzavantas
      @lavenzavantas 2 місяці тому

      well you got it right so far

  • @joanjoestar3252
    @joanjoestar3252 Рік тому +4

    dude this channel is underrated you deserve way more subs

  • @MrCalverino
    @MrCalverino 7 місяців тому +1

    u made the best retrospectives I've seen PERIOD!!!
    I've been watching these on repeat...
    I totally love your humor!!!

  • @Mugiwara2k
    @Mugiwara2k Рік тому +2

    Insane detail and dedication to research with these videos. You really do go above and beyond with these. Great work man.

  • @HowdyImAlex
    @HowdyImAlex Рік тому +1

    Loving your personal input on this history and the gameplay. Thanks so much for the great content!

  • @prince_nocturne
    @prince_nocturne Рік тому +2

    Love the different game openings. Street Frighter Alpha in engrish, The hype of Alpha 2, the... playful ALPHA 3~ and...
    Street Fighter! *E!X!* ...oh yeah and plus alpha, I guess. It sounds like such an afterthought for the announcer guy

  • @royshaheer
    @royshaheer Рік тому +2

    Alpha series was a fine collection of games that perfectly connected Street Fighter 1 and 2. BUT It was also a great in art style. Ex series will always have a special place similar to Godzilla 98, as they blew the world when I was a child. I am glad Arika is doing well it's characters. Looking forward to your coverage of the next installments in this retrospective❤🎉.

  • @TrillyThough
    @TrillyThough Рік тому +3

    Sakura is my all-time favorite Street Fighter character.

  • @kylestyle5693
    @kylestyle5693 6 місяців тому

    I can’t get enough of your work. I’ve spent so many hours listening to your voice, It’s basically hypnotizing now.

  • @SgtPotShot
    @SgtPotShot Рік тому +2

    1:35:05 IIRC, the Mazi & Saikyo modes were in the original arcade version of Alpha 3. You had to put in the credits at certain times & have a special input at the ism select screen.

  • @Perez3005
    @Perez3005 Рік тому +3

    Was looking forward to this! Thanks mr Thorgi! Looking forward to the next parts

  • @EggDudeYT
    @EggDudeYT Рік тому

    I love how this video is planned despite being like an 2:30-hours long it was very informative and entertaining, pls keep adding more dev histories they enrich the appreciation of how said games are made.