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Did the 1 wall workshop ever get made? The biggest thing holding me back right now is space. I only have my garage, and I can't justify tools like a planer, jointer, etc due to space.
Were these plans ever posted? I looked for the plans, starting with the section of the website called, "Plans > Shop Projects," but I couldn't find it.
That's the way I made my wagon vice. The only thing I did different was to remove the handle and replace it with a 4" hand wheel. Thanks for all of you teaching and ideas over the years.
Thank u James. I made my first bench out of red oak. I basically copied your exact model for the wagon vise n I added a cheap front vise. One day I’ll have a sjoberg or I’ll build my dream bench out of a better wood but for now I love my bench it gets the job done n the reason I love my bench is this wagon vise idea. Thank u
Thanks I need this idea for a full size work bench I made years ago but didn’t include an end vise and I even have two unused veneer presses that have not even been out of the box.
This and the one-wall workbench or an adapted version of it might just be the perfect solution for my little work area. Very interested to see how this all unfolds.
I hope you still plan to do the one-wall workshop sometime. I am working off two 12 foot sections of wall in my garage with very little space coming out from them because I still have to share garage space with an actual car, and this looks like the ideal setup for me.
This would be a great addition to a work horse like the one Jay Bates built. Jay put a moxon style vice on one side. As long as the screws didn't interfere this would be a perfect addition on one end.
Great idea! I already had dog holes in my bench and kreg makes a product that does something similar. It is made out of all plastic, but it gets the job done.
You've been reading my mind with that bench idea. A couple of years ago I built a split top roubo with a nice L shaped vice made out of re-cycled mahogany floorboards, which I had to laminate. Although I liked it, I moved house since and the roubo was a pita to move. I also realized very quickly what limited use a L vice is, especially as these days I prefer to flatten boards initially with a router sled. So I've decided to lose the L vice and convert the whole bench into a knockdown moravian bench but with a sliding peg the same as you. I realized that to convert my split tops all I have to do is re-saw the rear board lengthways, put a dado in one of the halves and glue it to the front of the existing front board because that's already got 14" cut out of it with a slot to accommodate the L-vice. I can then re-saw what's left of the rear board to make the rear tray for the moravian.
Why? It's shoulder height. Unless you're building tables all day long, you should be rough cutting boards to part-length before you plane them. That's not very heavy.
I’m guessing he was think of dragging it down to use it. Which is what I thought when I it saw it. I did not even think to use it in place. Clever placement.
The one time we move it is enough to make me think of my back. Mine is on a cart but before I built that I would leap frog it between a couple WorkMates so I never had to lift it off the ground again.
What a great idea! Could add that to the front of my Sjobergs bench. Its already heavily modified anyway........ BTW: how do you plane 1/4" thick hardwoods (for small boxes)? Those thin boards are very hard to hold onto.
You could, if money is quite short, use a "rescued" scissor type car jack, using the screw and one of the threaded parts for the clamp, and, maybe, carefully drill out the other part as a bearing... And, so on...
I used that exact veneer screw several years ago to make the wagon vise when I made Norm's workbench. It's been great for everything I've thrown at it! Great build, James!
Really looking forward to seeing plans for the one wall workbench something I’m very interested in building and don’t have a lot of space. Great video great idea hopefully be able to incorporate it
I made a wagon vise for my bench out of an old GM scissor jack, pulley for the handle & frame from metal framing laths. Not as good as Benchcraft but it works. The screw was reverse threaded so when I turn the pulley clockwise, the dog moves forward.
Great idea James. I am in the process of reworking my shop and I’m looking forward to the follow up video and the plans. I’ll definitely incorporate that.
Another great idea and build. I have a old end vise pulled from a HF bench, same basic screw. I'll make it work. As for the HF bench, with a bit of ( ok, more than a bit) re-enforcing, drawer re-situating, they aren't too terrible as an assembly table and should be marketed as such. I was given two of them, that's the right price to spend some time modifying into assembly tables and some storage.
I'm really interested in this one wall workbench idea, I've moved my shop out of the yard and into the basement and space is....yeah. i like this vise and will almost definitely be making some form of this in the future
I love my wagon vise, I got a lot of suggestions to do a regular end vise instead, but I'm glad I did the wagon. It holds the workpiece at the front of the bench without racking. I'd 100% do it again
Already have one, basically the same design, except instead of round dogs mine has rectangular pop up dogs. Bottom line it’s great, I love it. My bench Also has a 4 x 4” 8020 aluminum Track with both horizontal and vertical tracks for top an side mounting with a multitude of clamping options. So versatile.
I have an old bench that includes this type o vise. I would recommend adding a negative chanfer in both "clamps" and an extra block with the complementary chanfer so when in compression, the wood would also be pushed down. Both pieces of each clamp could be assembled by a spring. I'm not sure if its clear enough, but when using my vise I find it annoying when the board starts wobbling. Love your videos btw, I've learned a lot from you. Best regards!
This looks like the same vise Norm Abrams incorporated into his work bench. I built that work bench over 30 years ago and it still works extremely well.
It might be neat to combine this design with a moxon vice. This would be great for folks who want to set it on top of their existing workbench for occasional hand tool wood working, or transport. Thank you for the inspiration James!
What a great way to add a tail vise to an existing work bench. I really enjoy your videos but this one was especially interesting. Keep up the good work. Thank you Dvid Adair
I've seen wagon vises before but I didn't realize just how small and simple they could be. The super compact nature of this one means there's a ton of freedom in how you build a bench around it. I've been thinking about building a low split top saw bench lately and debating the best way to add some extra work holding in case I want to use it as a more general purpose portable workbench and this style of vise may very well work it's way into the final product.
I built a workbench with a vise like this one years ago. I love it. I has proven to be sturdy and very useful. I'm looking forward to seeing the plans for your entire workshop setup.
That is an absurdly good price for that press clamp mechanism, compared to what you pay for the woodworking version of the exact same concept. Crazy. An entire series on, "I found this thing that is essentially identical to an expensive woodworking version, but is normally used by X, for X.." would be cool, and extremely helpful for those of us on a budget. I bet there is a long list of nearly identical hardware or tools that are used in other industries, and sold at a far cheaper price.
4:46 so those (hidden) pocket screws are arranged in the "weak" direction? But it doesn't matter much because gravity does their job fine and they're basically just alignment pins in this assembly?
Cool vise, but I feel like the handle sticking out would induce some cussing. I would try to alter the design slightly to keep anything from sticking out when not in use. I'd have to play around with it a bit to figure out, but I'd think it would be pretty simple to accomplish. I was thinking inset the mechanism, to bury the entire adjustment screw the whole time, scrapping the original handle. Then, maybe a hex end you could use a standard ratchet, extension, and socket for, or a custom handle of sorts.
I made a wagon vise very much like this one, and yes the handle is the biggest issue by far. If you're using a No 7 or something, it's very easy to hit the handle with the plane. It really needs a loose handle like those found on many vises.
Hola! 🖐Thanks for this awesome video. Not only containing a practical and useful "tool" BUT included with options, ideas, and some history. Take care and have a good one, Adios! 👊
Thanks great precurser to the upcoming build video. I looked at the hardware links. I am going to with the one from Taylor Toolworks. I have the maching moxon vice. Thanks for always sharing the hardware links.
I do think one improvement would be to have a different metal piece for clamping that would meet the other brass piece on the shortest setting to clamp small items. How useful that would be remains to be seen. I could also see having those pieces having a larger area to avoid leaving marks in softer materials. Overall though it's an excellent design in my opinion and modifications would depend on intended use.
@Stumpy Nubs thank you for this video. I am planning on building a new bench and was wondering if I could use a Yost leg vise screw I had and do it something similar to what you did. Love the videos and thank you for the content
Excellent and easy bench vice I first saw this ( and made) in an 1980’s wood mag for a small work bench that had a recessed tool ‘trough’ on wallside. I used it for years then gave to my son
Great video. Do you have one for a front woodwork bench vice? I made one myself, however, the threaded part of the vice will go back and forth but when it is moving without something being clamped the wood part of the vice does not move.
thanks James for the idea. I added to my workbench and love it. Only modification I made was to dado side lengths and make two long floating tenons to secure. Works great.
Thanks - I could probably think of a bazillion ways to customize your plan but this is a really great kick start! Very much looking forward to your published plan.
Thank you for this video-- very clear, very useful. I look forward to building my own one-wall shop next year so, good timing on that too. Thanks again
@@StumpyNubs ours had one lengthwise vise en one crosswise. The lengthwise one had dogholes in it aligned with dogholes (square) in the benchtop. They were really small benches maybe 1 3/4' x 4' or something like that. (I'm in sweden)
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A nice addition to ad to a existing workbench. Not so intrusive as traditional vices are. I always appreciate a clean look workbenches with functionality built-in. 👍😍
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Was actually planning on building a one wall workshop in my garage this winter. Really like what I’m seeing in the shots you showed.
Did the 1 wall workshop ever get made? The biggest thing holding me back right now is space. I only have my garage, and I can't justify tools like a planer, jointer, etc due to space.
Were these plans ever posted? I looked for the plans, starting with the section of the website called, "Plans > Shop Projects," but I couldn't find it.
That's the way I made my wagon vice. The only thing I did different was to remove the handle and replace it with a 4" hand wheel. Thanks for all of you teaching and ideas over the years.
Thank u James. I made my first bench out of red oak. I basically copied your exact model for the wagon vise n I added a cheap front vise. One day I’ll have a sjoberg or I’ll build my dream bench out of a better wood but for now I love my bench it gets the job done n the reason I love my bench is this wagon vise idea. Thank u
Just getting started on a small garage workshop. This will be perfect. Thanks
Thanks I need this idea for a full size work bench I made years ago but didn’t include an end vise and I even have two unused veneer presses that have not even been out of the box.
This and the one-wall workbench or an adapted version of it might just be the perfect solution for my little work area. Very interested to see how this all unfolds.
I hope you still plan to do the one-wall workshop sometime. I am working off two 12 foot sections of wall in my garage with very little space coming out from them because I still have to share garage space with an actual car, and this looks like the ideal setup for me.
This would be a great addition to a work horse like the one Jay Bates built. Jay put a moxon style vice on one side. As long as the screws didn't interfere this would be a perfect addition on one end.
Great idea! I already had dog holes in my bench and kreg makes a product that does something similar. It is made out of all plastic, but it gets the job done.
You've been reading my mind with that bench idea. A couple of years ago I built a split top roubo with a nice L shaped vice made out of re-cycled mahogany floorboards, which I had to laminate. Although I liked it, I moved house since and the roubo was a pita to move. I also realized very quickly what limited use a L vice is, especially as these days I prefer to flatten boards initially with a router sled. So I've decided to lose the L vice and convert the whole bench into a knockdown moravian bench but with a sliding peg the same as you. I realized that to convert my split tops all I have to do is re-saw the rear board lengthways, put a dado in one of the halves and glue it to the front of the existing front board because that's already got 14" cut out of it with a slot to accommodate the L-vice. I can then re-saw what's left of the rear board to make the rear tray for the moravian.
answers all my questions and requests, looking forward to the plans
Great job and thanks for showing it
thanks
Thanks for sharing with us James, that's a really neat vise setup. Fred
My back hurts looking at the Dewalt thickness plainer on the shelf
Why? It's shoulder height. Unless you're building tables all day long, you should be rough cutting boards to part-length before you plane them. That's not very heavy.
I’m guessing he was think of dragging it down to use it. Which is what I thought when I it saw it. I did not even think to use it in place. Clever placement.
Ideally, every machine would be at waist height with lots of room around it. But you make compromises in a small space.
The one time we move it is enough to make me think of my back. Mine is on a cart but before I built that I would leap frog it between a couple WorkMates so I never had to lift it off the ground again.
I was thinking the same thing about the DeWalt planer but using it in place is something I hadn’t thought of.
Very nice and practical
G R E A T I D E A.....and thank you...rr Normandy, France
What a great idea! Could add that to the front of my Sjobergs bench. Its already heavily modified anyway........ BTW: how do you plane 1/4" thick hardwoods (for small boxes)? Those thin boards are very hard to hold onto.
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Why is the open track 9" long? Seems like it could be a fair bit shorter.
Because that's how long the screw was, so why not use it and give yourself more adjustability?
Anybody know what the brand is of the orange clamps he's using?
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Wrong your wagon vice is the best
You could, if money is quite short, use a "rescued" scissor type car jack, using the screw and one of the threaded parts for the clamp, and, maybe, carefully drill out the other part as a bearing... And, so on...
I used that exact veneer screw several years ago to make the wagon vise when I made Norm's workbench. It's been great for everything I've thrown at it! Great build, James!
Awesome James. Now you got me thinking of upgrading my bench finally.
Really looking forward to seeing plans for the one wall workbench something I’m very interested in building and don’t have a lot of space. Great video great idea hopefully be able to incorporate it
I’m excited for those 1 wall plans. Looks great and tidy!
I made a wagon vise for my bench out of an old GM scissor jack, pulley for the handle & frame from metal framing laths. Not as good as Benchcraft but it works. The screw was reverse threaded so when I turn the pulley clockwise, the dog moves forward.
Looking forward to seeing the one wall bench video! If it's not until next year, that is a serious tease!
Great idea James. I am in the process of reworking my shop and I’m looking forward to the follow up video and the plans. I’ll definitely incorporate that.
This right here, is one of the best ideas ever! Stumpy and the crew absolutely rules😊🙌❤️
thank-you for sharing🤘
Brilliant, James! Thanks for all the tips! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
I look forward to getting the plans for the wagon vise when they're available! Looks like a great addition to any shop!!!
Another great idea and build. I have a old end vise pulled from a HF bench, same basic screw. I'll make it work. As for the HF bench, with a bit of ( ok, more than a bit) re-enforcing, drawer re-situating, they aren't too terrible as an assembly table and should be marketed as such. I was given two of them, that's the right price to spend some time modifying into assembly tables and some storage.
Was the one wall workshop video ever produced or is that this winter?
I'm really interested in this one wall workbench idea, I've moved my shop out of the yard and into the basement and space is....yeah. i like this vise and will almost definitely be making some form of this in the future
I love my wagon vise, I got a lot of suggestions to do a regular end vise instead, but I'm glad I did the wagon. It holds the workpiece at the front of the bench without racking. I'd 100% do it again
Already have one, basically the same design, except instead of round dogs mine has rectangular pop up dogs. Bottom line it’s great, I love it. My bench Also has a 4 x 4” 8020 aluminum Track with both horizontal and vertical tracks for top an side mounting with a multitude of clamping options. So versatile.
I have an old bench that includes this type o vise. I would recommend adding a negative chanfer in both "clamps" and an extra block with the complementary chanfer so when in compression, the wood would also be pushed down. Both pieces of each clamp could be assembled by a spring.
I'm not sure if its clear enough, but when using my vise I find it annoying when the board starts wobbling.
Love your videos btw, I've learned a lot from you. Best regards!
Any reason plywood wouldn't be sufficient for this?
blades!!! how much!!!! dint pay that for my table saw lol, that's probably why i get rubbish cuts sometimes.
Excellent
Grizzly has this Shop Fox vise for $14.95 but sadly shipping is 14.99 😝
I'm working on plans for a new work bench and going to use your work bench idea, THANKS.
This looks like the same vise Norm Abrams incorporated into his work bench. I built that work bench over 30 years ago and it still works extremely well.
Sorry. By "these plans" I meant the "One-Wall Workshop" Plans. Was the video ever made or the plans posted?
Did you ever end up putting up plans for that 1-wall workshop? Would love to set something like that up in my workshop!
That veneer screw is way better than the LV end vise with it's fiddly handle. Did you release plans for the bench?
It might be neat to combine this design with a moxon vice. This would be great for folks who want to set it on top of their existing workbench for occasional hand tool wood working, or transport. Thank you for the inspiration James!
Do I spy an @AndrewKleinWW end vice? :)
What a great way to add a tail vise to an existing work bench. I really enjoy your videos but this one was especially interesting. Keep up the good work. Thank you Dvid Adair
Seeing the mitre saw, it does not look like a sliding mitre saw. I was wondering if you feel you do not need a sliding one? Thx.
I've seen wagon vises before but I didn't realize just how small and simple they could be. The super compact nature of this one means there's a ton of freedom in how you build a bench around it. I've been thinking about building a low split top saw bench lately and debating the best way to add some extra work holding in case I want to use it as a more general purpose portable workbench and this style of vise may very well work it's way into the final product.
This is amazing! Can't wait for the plans to be available... thank you for sharing! 🌷
I built a workbench with a vise like this one years ago. I love it. I has proven to be sturdy and very useful. I'm looking forward to seeing the plans for your entire workshop setup.
Any update on the plans for this?
nice stumpy good idea
That's an excellent project! I love the idea of a wagon vise. It feels unobtrusive. I may do this one at some point.
That is an absurdly good price for that press clamp mechanism, compared to what you pay for the woodworking version of the exact same concept.
Crazy. An entire series on, "I found this thing that is essentially identical to an expensive woodworking version, but is normally used by X, for X.." would be cool, and extremely helpful for those of us on a budget. I bet there is a long list of nearly identical hardware or tools that are used in other industries, and sold at a far cheaper price.
4:46 so those (hidden) pocket screws are arranged in the "weak" direction? But it doesn't matter much because gravity does their job fine and they're basically just alignment pins in this assembly?
Cool vise, but I feel like the handle sticking out would induce some cussing. I would try to alter the design slightly to keep anything from sticking out when not in use. I'd have to play around with it a bit to figure out, but I'd think it would be pretty simple to accomplish. I was thinking inset the mechanism, to bury the entire adjustment screw the whole time, scrapping the original handle. Then, maybe a hex end you could use a standard ratchet, extension, and socket for, or a custom handle of sorts.
I made a wagon vise very much like this one, and yes the handle is the biggest issue by far. If you're using a No 7 or something, it's very easy to hit the handle with the plane. It really needs a loose handle like those found on many vises.
@@amsluis done anything to fix it yet?
@@samueldeter9735 I stick a little shim in front of the dog so the handle is clocked differently. Need to come up with a better fix.
@@amsluis be interested in what you come up with, if you wanna share here
very clever
No plans yet?
Hola! 🖐Thanks for this awesome video. Not only containing a practical and useful "tool" BUT included with options, ideas, and some history. Take care and have a good one, Adios! 👊
I'm worried about the acoustics. Hollow boxes are resonating drums.
hi, i'm the kind of guy who had to learn imperial system to watch your videos. And i hate the guys who complays about it.
THAT was exactly the vise style I've been looking for! Thanks Stumpy, you nailed it! (and screwed it, and glued it, LOL)
That's a cracking little video I'm going try and find the wee screw thingy 🤣..
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I love my wagon tail vice I built into my bench. Taylor Tools supplied the hardware.
Thanks great precurser to the upcoming build video. I looked at the hardware links. I am going to with the one from Taylor Toolworks. I have the maching moxon vice. Thanks for always sharing the hardware links.
I do think one improvement would be to have a different metal piece for clamping that would meet the other brass piece on the shortest setting to clamp small items. How useful that would be remains to be seen. I could also see having those pieces having a larger area to avoid leaving marks in softer materials. Overall though it's an excellent design in my opinion and modifications would depend on intended use.
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@Stumpy Nubs thank you for this video. I am planning on building a new bench and was wondering if I could use a Yost leg vise screw I had and do it something similar to what you did. Love the videos and thank you for the content
Excellent and easy bench vice I first saw this ( and made) in an 1980’s wood mag for a small work bench that had a recessed tool ‘trough’ on wallside. I used it for years then gave to my son
Great video. Do you have one for a front woodwork bench vice? I made one myself, however, the threaded part of the vice will go back and forth but when it is moving without something being clamped the wood part of the vice does not move.
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So true on the saw blade I use the thin kerf exclusively. Thanks for nudging me in their direction
I love this idea. I’ve been wanting to build a new bench and I want a vise. Now I know what I’ll do.
Everytime you post a great idea y no my pocket is going ti feel it💯👌adding that to my bench thats 4 shore Mr. Nubs
My favorite video of yours. It solved an idea I had on my CNC table. Thanks so much.
Thanks.
The workbench in Norm Abrams first book has a wagon vise. I built from those plans. Vise works great.
thanks James for the idea. I added to my workbench and love it. Only modification I made was to dado side lengths and make two long floating tenons to secure. Works great.
Nice. I am limited on space and use a table. Im making a moxon vise with a small top 33x16 and I may incorporate this idea into it.
Thanks - I could probably think of a bazillion ways to customize your plan but this is a really great kick start! Very much looking forward to your published plan.
Just what I have been looking for!!! Thanks for all of your good information.
That's Stumpy Nubs we like! Great idea!
As always I may comment later but give us you my boy blue lol n I'd love o really high end wagon vise!!! The only thing my bench missing
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Very nice, I will definitely be trying this, I need a good wood working vise in my small shop.
Fantastic video thank you for sharing this with us today from Henrico County Virginia
Thank you for this video-- very clear, very useful. I look forward to building my own one-wall shop next year so, good timing on that too. Thanks again
Nice
Omg.... Just in time to incorporate something like this in my new work bench!!!! Fantastic idea I love this so much!
Great video. Just commenting to help your algorithm.
Thanks for the video, always enjoy watching!
don't you allready have this on the Sjöbergs bench? We hade it on the simple Sjöbergs benches we had in woodshop at school except it wasnt boxed in.
Not on the version I have
@@StumpyNubs ours had one lengthwise vise en one crosswise. The lengthwise one had dogholes in it aligned with dogholes (square) in the benchtop. They were really small benches maybe 1 3/4' x 4' or something like that. (I'm in sweden)
A nice addition to ad to a existing workbench.
Not so intrusive as traditional vices are.
I always appreciate a clean look workbenches with functionality built-in. 👍😍