Not Your Average Trail Bike

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  • Опубліковано 26 лис 2024

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  • @duythai5442
    @duythai5442 4 роки тому +4

    Great short, informative video. Climbs, turns, pop, chunk: you covered the main rides that anyone would want to know about a trail-enduro bike. Thank you!

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +2

      We will be putting out more on this bike so stay tuned. Thanks for watching!

  • @alexcasal3207
    @alexcasal3207 4 роки тому +4

    Great review as always man! This proyect is gonna grow! Thank you for the content. Greetings from México!

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +2

      Gracias amigo. Happy it was helpful. We enjoy bringing info to fellow riders and are trying hard to improve. Thank you for your support!

  • @PunkUncleShow
    @PunkUncleShow 4 роки тому +1

    Nice! Looking forward to seeing how you like it as you get more time in on it

  • @MTB_Rider_96
    @MTB_Rider_96 3 роки тому +1

    Climbing is 80% suspension setup and lockout ability, and only 20% cockpit setup. All these new modern frames are so close with their specifications so it has a lot to do with the mix & match components, and what you can afford.

  • @joeydistasio1
    @joeydistasio1 4 роки тому +1

    Great video! I sprained my wrist last week so my riding season is over but i’m spending my downtime picking my new 2021 bike :) I’m in between the Meta TR and the Ibis Ripmo AF and i think i’m leaning towards the Meta... It’s such a good looking bike. Love the videos!

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      Both very good bikes. TR is more capable on the downs and AF climbs a bit better and is also a bit more playful. TR in polished looks amazing! Sorry to hear about your wrist. I destroyed mine some years back and is why I wear a brace. MOBIUS X8 wrist brace is something I will be trying in the near future and may also help you get back on the bike. Hope you heal up quickly 🙏

  • @garyjones7381
    @garyjones7381 4 роки тому +2

    You ride my local trails...that deserves a sub 👍🏻

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      Awesome, thanks Gary. Say hi if we run into each other.

  • @SsmAnyfeSt
    @SsmAnyfeSt 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much, you really made my mind clear now! I think I would prefer the TR even if I would have liked more like 150-155mm of travel but 2021 AM is just too long, too extreme, for my twisty trails! So now I have to decide between Norco Sight or Meta TR! haha
    I suppose you had your Mezzer at 160mm? 64.5 is at 150mm so 64 at 160...I think I would put an angleset to have 64.5 or maybe even more like 65 of HA so it would help turn a bit better as I am used to 27.5 bikes and never wanted to go 29 because of that. What do you think? Super slack is only good for steep descent and I do a mix of everything... tech trails with rocks, roots and tight turns but not a lot of super steep.

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      I set the Mezzer on the TR to 150mm but seems to sit at around 145mm or so. Not sure where HTA sets as it is listed at 64.5 on both the 160mm and 150mm. I'd say 150mm on the Mezzer is good as that fork eats everything up. I did bottom the fork so may up the IRT pressure or change travel to 160mm. Meta TR is a great machine but it still is a big bike and smashes the tech really well. I'm hoping I'll continue to love it for XC type riding... so that will be part of our long term review to see how this does there. The AM makes a lot of hard tech climbs easy but I started to bonk out at the 12 mile mark on my XC ride.

    • @SsmAnyfeSt
      @SsmAnyfeSt 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB Ok thanks a lot! Geo is with 150mm as you can see with the axle to crown numbers in the chart. ;)

    • @SsmAnyfeSt
      @SsmAnyfeSt 4 роки тому +1

      Hey man, one last question... Would you consider the bb as being low? Really low? Normal?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@SsmAnyfeSt I never noticed thee bb so that's probably a good thing. I hit the bash guard on while rolling over a tree and maybe 2 times in some gnarly bike park chunk. I've had lower lol

    • @SsmAnyfeSt
      @SsmAnyfeSt 4 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB Ok so no pedal strikes really... Thanks!

  • @JoelManers
    @JoelManers 4 роки тому +1

    Outstanding review. What tires were you running on this bike?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks Joel. This build we have DHF front and DHR 2 rear both Exo+ WT 3C. Traction for days

  • @richardgonzalez6583
    @richardgonzalez6583 3 роки тому +2

    I'm looking to change my rear shock to MARA piggyback I have the meta tr 29 in large so I believe its exactly like yours which size did you go with for your rear shock

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  3 роки тому +1

      I got stock size 210 x 55. It's a great shock. 👍

  • @John-qc1zv
    @John-qc1zv 4 роки тому +1

    Sounds like the TR is alot more fun than the AM and maneuver better, which one would you buy ?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +3

      Really depends on the need of the rider. AM if you're at the bike park a lot or trails are nasty, steep, and huck fest. TR if you're climbing more but still need something that can hit those nasty lines with a little bit more care. TR would be a more suitable daily driver for me. AM I think complements a trail bike for a 2 bike stable. Both great bikes

    • @John-qc1zv
      @John-qc1zv 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB Almost bough one, I finally put a deposit on the Giant Trance X 29-2
      www.giant-bicycles.com/us/trance-x-29-2-2021
      They were both the same price but the Giant have better brake and suspension with a very similar geometry and I like the wider tire in the front.
      I wonder if you ever try the Giant Trance x ?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@John-qc1zv i haven't tried the Trance X 29 yet. I have been trying to get one but sold out. Looks like a great bike.

  • @pinoypridemtb
    @pinoypridemtb 4 роки тому +2

    Hi, just wondering since you have both the meta TR and AM which one do you prefer to ride in Auburn? If you can only have one bike which one sir? I know it is still early to tell since you just got the TR but just your first impression. Planning to buy 29er and I’m interested on the commencal meta but undecided which one is better now for our local trails here in Sacramento. Thanks!

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      I'd say TR. It is shorter and more manageable on more mellow trails. The AM really needs chunky gnarly trails to really appreciate. At the bike park the AM was amazing and loved it. TR is still a big bike but the geometry seems a little more balanced for less rowdy trails. If you only wanted 1 bike for this area then I'd recommend the TR.....I think it'd do well at the bike park also

    • @pinoypridemtb
      @pinoypridemtb 4 роки тому

      Straight Line MTB thanks for the info

  • @basvanommen7338
    @basvanommen7338 4 роки тому +1

    i love the look of the commencal but im more in the market for a cross-country mtb. do you think i could build this bike into a good cross-country if i buy the frame? i was thinking of less travel and thinner tires to start with. grtz

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +2

      This frame came in at over 8lbs without shock. Our build here is just over 35lbs. I would think it would be hard and expensive to get this bike close to 30lbs in size large. If you're looking for more XC then I would look at other options as this bike prefers the downhills.

    • @basvanommen7338
      @basvanommen7338 4 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB thanks!

  • @slickdusud
    @slickdusud 4 роки тому +2

    hi ! could you tell me how do you feel the rear suspension, smooth, harsh, bottom out .. how does it works on small bumps and bigger ones ... etc .. thanks for your answer and sorry for my poor english ! lol

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +2

      The rear is pretty plush for 140mm. I have bottomed out a couple time pretty hard and the rear took it well without bucking. On small bumps it feels great, bigger hits as well. I am running an off shelf rear shock that isn't tuned specifically for the frame so stock builds may differ a bit. Overall for a 140mm bike it is very supportive and can handle a lot

    • @slickdusud
      @slickdusud 4 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB thank you very much for your answer .

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@slickdusud no problem. Thank you for watching

  • @dzastafahrai
    @dzastafahrai 4 роки тому +1

    Hi, you mentioned that Meta AM have less bob on the climbs, I've noticed that my Clash (2020) with RS Super Deluxe does not have any bob. I think maybe this is related to RS Super Deluxe tune for commencals. It seems that the tune is very supportive, but sometimes maybe lacking some small bump compliance. This is just my observation.

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      I think you may be correct. The small bump at slower speeds on the Meta AM is a little more firm that I would expect but at speed it is great. The TR has a little bob when pedaling but the small bump feels pretty smooth.

    • @dzastafahrai
      @dzastafahrai 4 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB Exactly same with clash RS suspension tune - it opens on speed and big hits.

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@dzastafahrai for the Clash and AM I think thats a good compromise. Those bikes are made for big lines

    • @dzastafahrai
      @dzastafahrai 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB I wonder how Meta TR would behave with RS Super deluxe tuned by commencal. I'm keeping and eye on Meta TR as a rowdy trail bike, but I'm looking to race version with coil.

  • @arturohernandez2055
    @arturohernandez2055 3 роки тому +1

    Ripmo Af or Meta TR?! I can’t decide!!

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  3 роки тому +1

      I'd say AF if you want more pop and playfulness an a little bit better climber. TR if you are looking for something more capable on the downs and would be a bit better in the bike park. Both great bikes and can't go wrong either way. I'd go with the one you like the looks of better and can get the soonest

  • @determinedskeptic
    @determinedskeptic 4 роки тому +1

    Nice!
    So this (TR29) or the Ripmo AF??? Which would you take as your only bike?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +2

      Great question. Me personally I think I would go with the AF. I don't hit the dh park often anymore and like a lot of long climbs to bomb down. If I was hitting bike parks more often or shuttling more I'd go TR. Both great bikes.

    • @andrew198202
      @andrew198202 4 роки тому +1

      I'm undecided between Nukeproof Reactor 29 and Meta TR. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@andrew198202 never had the chance to ride a reactor but reviews are good. I'd say TR leans more enduro than trail. I'd imagine a carbon reactor would come in a few lbs lighter that the TR. The TR would have a bit more aggressive geometry also so reactor may be a bit more playful.

  • @rafaelgodoy3703
    @rafaelgodoy3703 4 роки тому +1

    Do you think this would've helped on the xc ride you did with the Meta? Or actually what you needed was a much lighter bike?
    I'm asking this because i'm an xc rider but i'm done with how harsh xc bikes are on the descents and i wanted to know if i could keep up with my buddies on a long ride with the meta tr. I'm pretty fit actually.
    Thanks in advance!

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      The Meta TR is a couple pounds lighter than the AM. The TR is also more maneuverable as well. It will climb better than the AM. Bit I would not say the TR is a trail bike but is more of a small enduro bike. The TR shines on the downs but I wouldn't say it is a great climber. If you're in good shape im sure you'd have no problem keeping up with others or even be in the lead.

    • @rafaelgodoy3703
      @rafaelgodoy3703 4 роки тому +1

      Wow, big thanks! It really gives me confidence but it also makes me think about the hardtail version hahahaha that must be a really fun bike too

    • @jeffbarnard348
      @jeffbarnard348 4 роки тому +1

      @@rafaelgodoy3703 For smooth trails and jumps I think the HT would be 👌

    • @rafaelgodoy3703
      @rafaelgodoy3703 4 роки тому +1

      Yes!!! That's what i mostly ride so i think i'll go for the hardtail. Plus you can get a really good spec for less money. I'm in love now hahahah thanks bro!

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      @@rafaelgodoy3703 the HT with fat 2.6 tires would be awesome. I had a '17 AM HT and it was so fun and capable.

  • @richardulrich9001
    @richardulrich9001 4 роки тому +1

    I'm a budget bike guy. What do you think of the Meta TR 29 Origin vs the YT Jeffsy Base?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      Looking at the two the YT will be a few lbs lighter, comes with dropper, 12 speed, dt Swiss wheels, and slightly better fork. The Commencal has more aggressive geometry and I suspect more capable on the downs. If you want a better climber id suspect the YT may be a little better there but the TR would probably be better on the downs but also heavier.

    • @richardulrich9001
      @richardulrich9001 4 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB I have the Jeffsy now. Was considering flipping it for the Commencal mainly because of the geometry. But i dont know about that fork on the Commencal Origin. So then i was thinking of just selling the frame and getting the Commencal. Decisions decisions. Keep up the great videos!

  • @alexferguson9856
    @alexferguson9856 2 роки тому +1

    Do u think this bike is good for someone who wants a bike tado abit of everything? Such as local trail riding and bike parks.

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  2 роки тому

      I think this is an excellent bike for this. Great bike

    • @alexferguson9856
      @alexferguson9856 2 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB thanx m8, I'm torn between this bike or a giant trance x, but leaning towards the commencal meta as it looks mint 😍

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  2 роки тому +1

      @@alexferguson9856 I haven't ridden the Trance X but from my research on it and my experience on the TR...the TR will be the better descender and better park bike.

  • @louis35770
    @louis35770 4 роки тому +1

    I'm in debate with Mata AM or TR, I ride more trail but would like to take it to the jump when I progress. What's your suggestion?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      I would go TR if you aren't regularly hitting chunky fast trails. The TR can handle a lot though and think it can hit the bike parks easily.

    • @louis35770
      @louis35770 4 роки тому +1

      Straight Line MTB thank you for your feedback!I’m thinking the get the TR with coil shock but never had any experience before, wonder what would be your thought about it?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      @@louis35770 Good question. The coil would plushness to the ride. Downside is added weight and maybe loosing some pedaling platform. Running the Mara Pro I feel it is a great fit for the the TR and not sure I would go coil full time. I really like the ability to adjust freely with an air shock on the fly if needed.

    • @louis35770
      @louis35770 4 роки тому

      Straight Line MTB thank you for the info!

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@louis35770 anytime

  • @Coerced
    @Coerced 4 роки тому +1

    what height are you and what size frame do you ride? I might have missed you say it in the video. Very curious about your findings regarding playfulness on this bike. I want a machine that can plow through chunder better than my current canyon spectral (27.5) but it's so crazy playful I just know I'll miss it if I pick a bike that loses too much of that. I pop around on every trail I ride except those that are slightly above my paygrade and thats really the only place I long for a slightly longer and bigger wheeled bike

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      I had a 2018 Spectral and that was a seriously fun bike. The TR is more in line with Strive id say. TR isn't poppy but I wouldn't say it's lazy. It won't play like the Spectral but it will hit bigger trails faster and more confidently. Our size large TR has a wheelbase over 1250mm so that's a lot of bike to get up. It's more light enduro than it is a trail bike. If you're wanting a poppy bike this probably won't be your bike.

    • @Coerced
      @Coerced 4 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB ah ok, thanks for the honest comparison! Do you know a bike that is more composed over chunder and yet very poppy or are these really 2 opposites? I get that they don't usually come together but perhaps you know of a weird bike that somehow manages to do both?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@Coerced the Ripmo AF was decently poppy for is weight but doesn't eat chunk like the TR but it is capableoh hitting chunk. It may be tough getting both in the same package.

    • @Coerced
      @Coerced 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB yeah I wonder what the new evil the offering will be like if its a modern 29er with 140mm travel in the rear, and gets the whole evil treatment of a short CS and poppy yet supple suspension

    • @Coerced
      @Coerced 4 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB ever rode the nukeproof reactor? I hear people talk about it saying its super playful and still handles chunder pretty well (though obviously not as well as the mega)

  • @paul.p.smellthetruth2667
    @paul.p.smellthetruth2667 4 роки тому +1

    By the way, how do you like the mara Pri shock? I have it with tuned air chamber and it is the best air shock I had. Before it already was great

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      I love it. I'm running it straight out of the box and it is amazing. Looking to get the inline version for our YT Izzo.

    • @paul.p.smellthetruth2667
      @paul.p.smellthetruth2667 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB
      By the way if you want price worth tuning for those manitou products just male contact with www.dz-suspension.de/
      I test his tunings. But they are not so expensive as many competitirs anyway and as he rides manitou he is one of the only tuners that provide real tunings for the fork and shock next to rulezman who is at another price point

    • @paul.p.smellthetruth2667
      @paul.p.smellthetruth2667 4 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB
      Must be pretty good, if the Inline mara has the gimmicks of the big mara.
      Eager to hear from it.
      Did you aczually test a fuel ex or privateer 141 wouldbe interested in comparisons

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@paul.p.smellthetruth2667 I really wanted to get a fuel ex but Trek is pretty sold out. Giant Trance X, Transition Sentinel, and Spesh Stumpjumper, and Ripley V4 are high on our list.

  • @trailladymtb7700
    @trailladymtb7700 4 роки тому +1

    Where are all of the cool trails you are riding located at? Northern California?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      Yes, AUBURN ca....great trails here

    • @dabbking
      @dabbking 4 роки тому +1

      @@StraightLine_MTB you got year round riding there?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@dabbking yes, very lucky

    • @dabbking
      @dabbking 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB yeah you are, I used to live on the east side of the mountains not far from auburn. Now I live in the pnw we can mostly ride year round but winter kinda sucks up here for riding really wet and cold.

  • @chrisgibson1947
    @chrisgibson1947 4 роки тому +1

    I've read a couple of reviews mention the rear triangle is wide and can rub on heels and calves, did you find this to be a problem at all?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      I was going to address this in our long term review. The seat stays are wide but I found that pedal choice helps. The deity Deftrap and DMR vault platforms start a little further out from the crank which help with this. One up composite sit a little closer so I did find i rubbed the stays a bit with them

    • @chrisgibson1947
      @chrisgibson1947 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB Thanks a lot! With the right pedals would it still be enough of an issue to put you off from buying?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      @@chrisgibson1947 not at all. Either way I didn't think it was a big issue.

    • @chrisgibson1947
      @chrisgibson1947 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB Thanks a lot, I'm looking forward to your long term review!

  • @ethanbenton6676
    @ethanbenton6676 4 роки тому +1

    where do you ride, this looks familiar

  • @borja8387
    @borja8387 4 роки тому

    measuring 179cm, what size would you choose?
    I have doubts if the L is too big.
    Now I have a Slash 2019 in size L and I feel it well but the TR is much longer.

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      Are you 170cm? If so commencal has you between a small and medium. For a livelier ride you could go to a small and for more of a plower medium would work.

    • @borja8387
      @borja8387 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB sorry. 179cm.

    • @rafaelgodoy3703
      @rafaelgodoy3703 4 роки тому

      I'll comment because i measure the same haha

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +2

      @@borja8387 I'm about 181cm with 80cm inseam and large feels good on the TR. Very balanced. Of you went with medium it may be a little lighter and maneuverable but give up a bit of stability.

  • @DWM72FROG
    @DWM72FROG 4 роки тому

    Is this the “gun metal” ? Or just polished?

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      This is polished. Very shiny, almost chrome like

  • @SimonLehnhoff
    @SimonLehnhoff 4 роки тому +1

    Nice video! Subbed💯

  • @alwynvanderlinde9507
    @alwynvanderlinde9507 4 роки тому +1

    Does a 2.5 fit on the rear??

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому +1

      I currently have an Aggressor WT 2.5 without issue on the rear. I think most 2.5 would fit possibly even a 2.6.

    • @alwynvanderlinde9507
      @alwynvanderlinde9507 4 роки тому

      @@StraightLine_MTB thanks for the reply!!

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      @@alwynvanderlinde9507 any time. Thank you for watching.

  • @BMfins
    @BMfins 4 роки тому +1

    Col bike but no thanks due to the weight. In Utah i have to go up to come down. And for these prices above 30lbs is a no go for me.

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  4 роки тому

      The weight is high but the quality is also. This bike is more focused on the downs but gets up well. Luckily there are many options to chose from. Our YT Izzo is proving to be a really fun bike also. Thanks for watching!

  • @nicom4996
    @nicom4996 3 роки тому

    Your saying that the bike has no problem jumping and stuff but I each bump you yell : DAAAMN.
    I have ridden the bike myself, this and the meta am and believe me, this bike is not for jumping or having fun. It's made for smashing and winning some enduro stages.
    To me, this video, I wouldn't call it fake but it's not accurate

    • @StraightLine_MTB
      @StraightLine_MTB  3 роки тому +1

      This is a first ride review and had been riding the AM version previously. So after riding the AM this bike did feel more poppy and playful. This bike jumps really well for its weight/size and more so than the AM version. If you watch our comparison video between the two or the full review of the TR i address all of this. These bikes were purchased full retail and we bring our honest thoughts and feedback. Thanks for your feedback.