Sadly, looks like Ashes of Creation is not learning from PvP oriented games from the past like DAoC. One huge mistake that game made was creating a class with speed that also gives speed to people in the group. This created huge disadvantages to solo and small group players who did not have one of the speed classes in the group. It made playing the game miserable because you could not defeat the larger group that had the speed class and you could not escape them because they'd run you down all the time. Eventually, this lead to everyone creating a speed class alt. Hopefully, the game also has mounts that are as fast as the speed classes. I don't mind classes having a speed advantage once combat starts, but out of combat everyone should have equal access to the same speed or the scenario I described above will be the norm and ruin the gaming experience. It might ultimately be the decision on whether or not I bother with the game because I it means developers don't understand pvp.
yo peon i just wanted to say im a grown ass man there is no way your not in the pockets on steven which is fine bro were all hyped for the game but u pretending that ur some third party looking at the game from the outside is pure cap u literally played the entirety on the alpha 2 trailer No copyright claim is a lil strange idk i really dont care but i find it shady that you never disclosed this and they had a stream where they talked about how there are some influencers connected to the game like Nycegaming u were not one of them But u clearly are, SO ??????(DO NOT BS YOU SHOULD DISCLOSE IT NOW)
Imagine working at McDonalds and pretending to have any idea how the time line of MMO game development works. Hi, game engine developer here who has developed TCP / UDP based network protocols for a very popular game engine that I will not name for the safety of my lively hood. If you do 2 minutes of research, ESO, an MMO with an established team behind it from the start took 7 years of development. We are on year 8 with Ashes of Creation, which is a game that started out with only a small team and has much, much more complicated game play systems being developed than ESO. MMO networking code is some of the most complicated software to exist. The fact that you think that 8 years is some type of ridiculous timeline given all factors at play shows that you know nothing about the subject. There is a million things you could critique AOC on, but you pick this head cannon about how long an MMO of this scale should be taking? It sounds to me that you are impatient and bored and you need something to complain about. If you're really that bored, I have no issue explaining how MMO networking works from a computer science level and how much it increases game systems development timelines by, when compared to normal game development. Or you can just pick more shifts up at what ever fast food restaurant you work at. Either one is fine, just please stop spreading your head cannon about MMO development in general around. Thanks. And to @deathbunny45, Star Citizen has been in development for 15 years and has over $700,000,000 in funding. Comparing that to AOC is equal to the cognitive reasoning level of a neanderthal.
@@bwfextreme Don't be an idiot, guy is grateful for this condensed videos every few months. Some of us don't have time to listen to Steven ramble on for hours on a stream to get news about the game. Actually you can be an idiot, i'm not your dad that left for cigarettes a while back.
The Bard system looks like a hybrid system between the Skjald/Bard/Minstrel (music classes) and (Hybrid warriors) Paladin/Thane/Champion class from DAoC
I LOVE these quarterly updates. Thank you so much for doing this, I really appreciate it. I’ve been eyeballing Ashes for years and holding off playing any other MMO, so when I finally dive in my thirst will be REAL. These give me just the right amount of hype to keep looking forward to release, even if it’s years off. Thank you❤
These quarterly Ashes Of Creation recaps are great! I really dont have the time to watch all these live streams so i am very happy there is somebody who can keep me updated
@ArkhBaegor um, awkchewallie it means one eye. Cyclops are a race of one eyed creatures. There's a fish with one eye named after it as well. Or a shellfish. Some water animal.
@TobiasKryze never seen someone so confident about being wrong but the word "cyclops" almost directly translates to "round eyes" or "round eye" lol. The name is tied to a creature with one eye but it doesn't mean one eye.
@GrippeeTV if you removed your head out of your ass for half a second. Peon was literally referring to an actual Cyclops. A Greek monster. Having 1 eye. Cyclops have 1 eye that is what they are and always have been since they were created. But wow I've never seen someone so confident in being wrong before. *eye roll*
i enjoy checking out this project every 2-3 years. nice to hear this team is still working on something. i remember watching a stream of a super early build and they sounded passionate about their project.
Thanks for your efforts, man. I don't play mmorpgs anymore, but I still listen to most of your videos while I am doing chores or woodworking. Your comment at the end just felt so spot on of just enjoying your run down of things.
Bro chill. This is just Alpha Two Phase One Part One Season One Episode Zero. Give them until at least Alpha Two Phase One Part One Season One Episode One 😅
@@rzt430 I have been flamed for saying this but I will die on this hill, this is a game built for and by Steven. And it's probably what will wreck it long term.
Gone are the days when everyone gets to explore a new mysterious world together on equal footing. Now you have youtubers, players who are willing to pay a premium and twitch streamers exposing all secrets and most efficient powerlevelling methods long before it's official 1.0 release.
@@Touchin-Grass true 👏 not to mention this comes with there open development style which for me at least is refreshing and I’ve not (personally) seen done before
@@Touchin-Grass exactly, we just didnt have the platforms and exposure to these testers outside of maybe television or magazines (g4tv or Edge magazine) . Even then, press were often made to sign extensive NDAs at trade shows or as testers.
Agreed. And this today is true of all games in general. There's no more mystery or intrigue; no more exploration. Before ANY game is released these days, online or not, there's thousands of videos from thousands of streamers, all of whom receive early or early-early access. In the old days? Only media sites (which there were a small handful of) had any pre-access to a game. Beta for MMORPGs was the only exception, and back then it was difficult to get into a beta and generally people only got in slightly before release. Looking at single player games, take Elden Ring... before this game was public there were already streamers who had completed the game and were posting best builds, guides, etc. by the thousands. But back to your point: this seriously hurts MMORPGs more than single player games, because it gives early access players a massive advantage in mechanics and knowledge. And the worst part? Players are paying a company to play their unfinished product just because the company knows people are desperate enough to do it. Video game culture as a whole has become a horrible place the past 10-15 years, much like most things in our world, and all due to the advent of social media across the internet. This game isn't going to save the MMORPG market. I don't think the MMORPG market will ever be what it once was because our culture and video gaming culture have changed too much. And people cannot return to past time periods, no matter how they try to emulate it. MMORPGs as we knew them were part of an older time period. MMORPGs today live in a different era, and they suffer because of it.
remember Riot is also working on a mmo, and they're well known for great quality products. Everything they did was a massive success:lol, valorant, LoRT, Arcane, K/DA music, etc. I doubt their mmo will not follow this success. By the time AoC releases RIot's mmo will be years old, with everything AoC promised and more. Time is a limited resource, it seems AoC devs don't understand this. Competition is getting better and better, when they finally release AoC their game will be mediocre and have things all other mmos do.
My friend you should watch the server meshing stream from ashes because there is just 2 mmos that are really trying to evolve mmo tech. AoC and SC with dynamic meshing servers.Also AoC converted ue5 into multi thread and added multiservices for specific systems
For that to be true those "better MMOs" would have to be in development for years now too. Do you guys really think that in 2years there will suddenly pop a never-heard-before, entire new MMO that will swipe the market?? This is taking so long for a reason, MMOs just take that long to develop, all of them. The Riots MMO might be only real competitor but we don't even know if it's actually getting done or maybe they changed focus afterall (focusing on another game)
its called an active development you dont see this kind of update from other games coz they hide it until after 10yrs it is playable and ready for release
I was never hyped to begin with because it was much more of a proof of concept than anything else, but watching Peons videos on it over the years and now that it seems to be coming together into something that actually looks promising I'm pretty interested actually. Steven seems to know what makes a great MMO, having played them so religiously himself and from watching him speak about the game and why they make certain design choices, node system is pretty unique and the more classic/hardcore MMO nature of it is super appealing as someone who doesn't enjoy games that allow you to just rush the leveling process in a day and misses when leveling was a true part of the game and not something you just wanted done and over with so you can get to the quote on quote "real game".
What people dont understand is all these years of "developing" is only for releasing a bare, base game. If you think about possible patches, enhancements, qol updates after the game is released. Then youd know that mmorpgs should only be handled by studios who have a lot of resources / manpower.
@whoaskedyoutolookatthis You feel pretty strongly about this, huh? lol I remember Archeage having over 100+ classes, with over half of that number being useless. How many of AoCs 64 class combos are going to follow in said footsteps here?
@@allthatishere the fact that you have the capability of making useless classes is the charm. GW2, in my opinion, feels soulless. I like vertical growth, an mmorpg is meant to be a second world, a world you visit when you have the time, where you grind, where you dabble in the politics of the world, where you have to learn about the market, etc, etc, etc. GW and other "theme park first" mmorpgs feel soulless when you are looking for that experience. i've tried Gw2 literally when it came out, then a few years back, and then this year, i can NEVER get to it. You are in a treadmill and you just have to follow whatever the magical box of quests tells you, monsters are meant to scale to your level so whatever sense of progression is lost, as you can never revisit an old place and feel powerful, and I honestly don't have the wordsmithing capabilities to tell you everything I find boring as shit about it. In lineage 2, if you were level 40, a lvl 15 zone would be literal trash, the levels really felt like progression, enchanting too, and you had the freedom of going wherever the fuck you wanted, you had world bosses, open-world dungeons, etc, etc. Gw2 is just a WoW clone, i'd rather prefer korean style old school mmorpgs.
Most people following this game now will not have the time to play this game by the time it launches because they will be in their 30s and 40s if not 50s and life will get busier and busier
@@janitor8884 This. I have to make a choice : either play 'normal' games, or MMORPG. I still like to watch news about MMO's, but i know i'll never play them again, cause i just can't see myself play only one game over and over.
Im 40, have 2 Kids and Cancer. I Play MMOs even If i will die in 5 Years. Life dont get busier If you get older IT only gets shorter and you have a daylie Rotation. Just Look at your Parents... If they dont sit everyday on the TV they would have a Lot of time for Games
The world looks really good, the boss fights look solid and I like the town and events but the character models look out of place, like they were dropped in, the class SFX and UX/UI looks dated. The Bard seems like it is trying to fit in too many themes for its abilities.
@@T0beyeus it’s in alpha 2 and I believe they said once they’ve got the core of the game down animations and models will be improved but they want to get the game working well first, as someone who loved the bard showcase and can’t wait to play a bard I do agree tho
I agree, and i ubderstand that alpha two, but the ui for me should always be heavely invested. Take New World for example, the UI is so acessible so a lot of.players got quickly afapted to the game, also it gave the game its own feel, u look into a video, u are always seeing the ui. About the character, i feel like they are okay, i juat dislike the camera, so centered in the char it makes it look out of place
Pretty much. The combat will only be playable/bearable for most MMO gamers who are actively playing MMOs even at the stage they're in (aka addicts with no standards).
lol outdated? WoW is still the most popular mmorpg and there hasnt released anything to rival it yet except ffxiv, ur acting like quality mmorpgs are released daily
@@songoku6067 ashes looks beautiful but that's not what defines a quality MMO, the IP behind wow is so powerful that it has kept it on the throne for so long. If the gameplay of ashes isn't fun then no amount of graphics will save it. And yes yes it's still alpha now.. we aren't allowed to judge em etc etc but they will really need to pull out all the stops to try and not be remembered as a pretty but meh MMO. Also, as many business people say, the best product can fail if it misses the time to market window. We will see in a few years which prediction comes true
Ashes of Creation timline : 2027 - Alpha 3 2030 - Beta 1 2033 - Beta 2 2036 - Beta 3 december 2039 - Release .. finally .. yay january 2040 - the company announces bankruptcy Alternattive timeline 2039 : they realize their engine is totally outdated so they start moving to a newer engine 2042 : Alpha 1 on new engine ..
Hopefully after this very long development time, the game will give mmo players a game they can enjoy, I personally gave up on mmos, but would still be cool if the game breaths life into the dying gener.
This game is a lost cause, players are so down bad that they willingly play just to be a beta tester lol and then when it comes out, the game will be okay and somewhat dead around 3-6months.
What is the gameplay loop? What is there to actually DO that will keep people playing for hours and hours on end. I still haven't seen anything that convinces me the game will be content rich. The only real content I've seen are group caravans and world bosses.
up to you. pvp, questing, dungeons, raids, resource gathering, node leveling, social aspects, crafting, exploring, etc. like almost every mmo. he even mentions some in the video. not to directly criticize your character, but you should probably look into it more or at least watch Peons other videos. framing your comment as ignorance while also implying/signaling that there's actually nothing to do in the game comes off as a bit malicious and fairly negative to those who have put the time in to inform themselves.
@@zerohcrows "not to directly criticize your character" But thats exactly what you're implying - your comment reeks of arrogance and its hilariously hypocritical. I said that I haven't seen anything that convinces me that the game will be content rich. I expressed it as an OPINION, not fact. Substantial questing, dungeon content, (non open world) PVP, raiding haven't been shown very much. I may be uninformed, but at least I'm not a pretentious asshole.
@@zerohcrows "not to directly criticize your character" But thats exactly what you're doing. And you accuse ME of arrogance? That is hilarious hypocritical. I expressed my comment as an OPINION, not a fact. I'm a $500 backer and I'm allowed to ask critical questions. I didn't insult anyone, I didn't say that the game sucks. I simply said that I haven't seen enough to convince me there will be a captivating gameplay loop. High quality dungeon, questing, raiding, or (non caravan) PVP content has NOT been shown. Only a few world bosses, and fairly bland dungeon crawls. I may be uninformed, but at least I'm not leaving condescending, passive aggressive, holier-than-thou replies like you are.
Edited: Remember folks, don't let rude people on the internet affect you in any way. They aren't worth your time and their behavior is a reflection of THEM, not you.
Well, I'm just wondering why you say this. At the moment, we don't know much about how Augments will work, aka how your secondary will impact your primary archetype. And we won't know until next year, and Stage 3 of Alpha 2..
Well I say this because I assume stuff like you said we don't know anything. But buffing / aura / debuff / hex sound great on a support spec. If the guardian is already tanky enough and doesn't need dmg for holding aggro? Giving out buffs/ lifesteal/ small heals or hexes is great
@@johnweig4667 It does sound great, I just fear a lot of people (including myself) might be disappointed by how the augment system will work. From what we know, it will just change your x Tank ability into a something with different visuals, and maybe different mechanics (added damage, added effects, etc.). You won't have brand new abilities, you'll just have modified base archetype abilities, based on the augment you select.
Looking at these updates I can't shake the feeling that AoC is the harbinger of doom for the MMORPG genre. It is going to suck and break the heart of every MMORPG enjoyer in the world. I hope not, but... all this is not very confidence-inspiring.
A high tier backer that they got to speak to the elite developer/creator. That after a few conversations they got their packing refunded as it was clear he was a chronic liar saying whatever to sell the game.
With how much money is being poured into this game and how long it's taken to reach even this stage, this HAS to be some kind of elaborate money laundering scheme, right? I can't be the only one thinking this
It's insane how haters are actually always watching these videos and leaving negative comments. Like if you don't like it, just go do something else, and spend your time on something you enjoy lol.
@@_Diktator These kinds of people don't have anything they enjoy. That's the point, the just want to tear stuff down. They don't want others to have a good time or to have things they like. They are bitter and resentful.
A PvP focused MMO announced in 2016, that took 3 years to go from alpha 1 to alpha 2 and whose CEO says that alpha will still be “full of bugs”. What could possibly go wrong?
i am not sure this game will ever come out. When it was announced i was a bit hyped, but with what progress they have made in 8 years....not so much anymore.
As long as they keep up the pace of updates, I don't mind if other people want to pay to improve the game. Making the systems behind node growth and the PvE/PvP at each stage interesting and not feel procedural/boring will be tough and take a lot of time and testers. A lot of custom quest/story/loot content for each way the world's nodes can be developed will have to be added, along with believable reactive NPC factions/armies.
I’m sorry but anyone else feel like this game is very “meh” so far for how LONG it’s been in development?? The graphics look outdated af already. I’m sorry but this game is going to flop on release if they don’t make some major changes, mark my words.
The sheer inability to deliver progress on this game is astounding. It tells me that there’s something wrong in the production pipeline, and even if the game releases, updates will drop slow.
This needs to be brought up more. Intrepid just needs to shut up, stop the update videos, develop the game, and release the product within the next couple of years or this game will disappear. I swear Steven has dinner with Chris Robert's on a weekly basis.
I was 29 when I first heard of this game, since i got married, bought a house and my daughter is almost 6 yo. I know, they should take there time for it to be really good, no rush. But you know..just saying.
The "God help us" with a fading voice, had me laughing like an idiot. hahaha I am still laughing trying to type my comment. Brilliant my dude, pure brilliance! Keep it up, and yeah, let's hope we will live to play this masterpiece!
People who complain about them being slow about releasing the game dont realize how much work making an MMORPG take. Its the hardest genre in the industry and Intreped studio has been open about their development from the very start, which we all should appreciate alot more. Not many gaming studios does that and the progress they show from month to month is really good.
@@adamcunningham6008he’s here to make the joke about coming back when it releases in 2076. I really could care less about people that know nothing about the game and pass by saying something witty then goes back to WoW retail or some other P2W game.
Phase 3 looking like the best bang for one's buck, like a sweetspot between a testing ground and an actual game, with approx. 2 years of playtime ahead until release.
These videos are the only way I would be able to keep up with ashes development. Absolutely love watching this game get made as it really seems to have everything I was hoping for from Archeage but implemented with (from my view) more care and with just the better technology of today. I know it's not out and things could change, but I really feel like this is the MMO I've been wanting ever since I first heard about Archeage, my entire friend group have been hopping MMO to MMO chasing the high we got from that, but this is the first game that felt true promise in a long time.
This is Shroud of the Avatar with a bigger budget. By the time this actually releases, no one will even care. This is an unemployment program for developers.
This new format with you on facecam at the begining of your videos is for our greatest pleasure, you're so gorgeous ! Now the topic of the video, i'm so impatient and excited for the Alpha of Ashes of Creation, i've been following the dev of the game since the trailer for the kickstarter. Can't wait !
This game is such an overhyped mess. It looks awful next to something recent like Throne and Liberty too. Everything about the assets are just amateur looking and literally look worse than stuff you find on the Unreal Engine store
^ This. The whole development just seems really slow and really bad so far. They also like to reveal things as "groundbreaking" that have been in other MMO's for 10+years (charge uphill?!), and advertise it as genre-defining changes
1.5+ years in A2, but B1+B2 will run concurrently. A2 server will be PTR. So, I'm looking potential at release in Fall 2026 /Spring 2027. $15/month to try it for 30 days seems worth it. We'll see.
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Sadly, looks like Ashes of Creation is not learning from PvP oriented games from the past like DAoC. One huge mistake that game made was creating a class with speed that also gives speed to people in the group. This created huge disadvantages to solo and small group players who did not have one of the speed classes in the group. It made playing the game miserable because you could not defeat the larger group that had the speed class and you could not escape them because they'd run you down all the time. Eventually, this lead to everyone creating a speed class alt.
Hopefully, the game also has mounts that are as fast as the speed classes.
I don't mind classes having a speed advantage once combat starts, but out of combat everyone should have equal access to the same speed or the scenario I described above will be the norm and ruin the gaming experience. It might ultimately be the decision on whether or not I bother with the game because I it means developers don't understand pvp.
img that the bard has 500 hp and heals for 10 hp a tick xD it would take 1 minute atleast to fully heal som1 with that heal
yo peon i just wanted to say im a grown ass man there is no way your not in the pockets on steven which is fine bro were all hyped for the game but u pretending that ur some third party looking at the game from the outside is pure cap u literally played the entirety on the alpha 2 trailer No copyright claim is a lil strange idk i really dont care but i find it shady that you never disclosed this and they had a stream where they talked about how there are some influencers connected to the game like Nycegaming u were not one of them But u clearly are, SO ??????(DO NOT BS YOU SHOULD DISCLOSE IT NOW)
When this game finally gets released, Tesla & Boston Dynamic's robots will be giving birth.
I can't wait to have sex with Tesla robots.
I think you mean Star Citizen lmao
@@deathbunny45 you're not funny
@@chase5298 found one of the people who got scammed by Star Citizen🤣
Imagine working at McDonalds and pretending to have any idea how the time line of MMO game development works. Hi, game engine developer here who has developed TCP / UDP based network protocols for a very popular game engine that I will not name for the safety of my lively hood. If you do 2 minutes of research, ESO, an MMO with an established team behind it from the start took 7 years of development. We are on year 8 with Ashes of Creation, which is a game that started out with only a small team and has much, much more complicated game play systems being developed than ESO. MMO networking code is some of the most complicated software to exist. The fact that you think that 8 years is some type of ridiculous timeline given all factors at play shows that you know nothing about the subject. There is a million things you could critique AOC on, but you pick this head cannon about how long an MMO of this scale should be taking? It sounds to me that you are impatient and bored and you need something to complain about.
If you're really that bored, I have no issue explaining how MMO networking works from a computer science level and how much it increases game systems development timelines by, when compared to normal game development. Or you can just pick more shifts up at what ever fast food restaurant you work at. Either one is fine, just please stop spreading your head cannon about MMO development in general around. Thanks.
And to @deathbunny45, Star Citizen has been in development for 15 years and has over $700,000,000 in funding. Comparing that to AOC is equal to the cognitive reasoning level of a neanderthal.
I'll come back in 2027 when it hits early access
Probably
@@Spiffy_SiFF 2030
That is extremely optimistic
Ashes won’t be launching until earliest 2054! Going to be hype!
Thats generous
I'm so ready for this game, I have booked my self a cryochamber and a ticket to the nearest hospitable planet.
LMFAO!
Just wanted to say; as a casual follower of the games progress, these quarterly updates have been invaluable. Keep up the good work.
Okay glazer
@@bwfextreme Don't be an idiot, guy is grateful for this condensed videos every few months. Some of us don't have time to listen to Steven ramble on for hours on a stream to get news about the game. Actually you can be an idiot, i'm not your dad that left for cigarettes a while back.
@@bwfextreme sorry your life is so miserable.
@@bwfextremeyou play RuneScape, your opinion means nothing
@@QsPracticalNonsense and your opinion of him means nothing. shocking. loserrr
I’m not even into MMOs but now I want to be a bard in AoC
There is nothing better than having your morning tea and watching the quarterly recap for ashes of creation. Love it!
there is : having your morning tea while playing the game , but that will probably never happen
The bard gameplay actuallyl looked good. The systems interact with each other and build from themselves. That’s good systems design.
The Bard system looks like a hybrid system between the Skjald/Bard/Minstrel (music classes) and (Hybrid warriors) Paladin/Thane/Champion class from DAoC
@@mangrey2361and the second arquetype for more diversity
loooool
@@mangrey2361 Also the Bard from EQ1 with the weaving of songs. I loved that class and gameplay.
My very thought! EQ1 Bard is my favorite class of any MMO.
I'm just back at home from prison and after 16 months, the first thing that i see on UA-cam: This game still in Alpha... 💀
welcome home
lets go back 😂
wdym alpha is finally starting! its still in development for 2 more weeks!
How's your hole?
Might as well go back for 10 years and the game might be out
The greatsword over the shoulder is still so awesome to me and so simple a thing, love it!
I LOVE these quarterly updates. Thank you so much for doing this, I really appreciate it. I’ve been eyeballing Ashes for years and holding off playing any other MMO, so when I finally dive in my thirst will be REAL. These give me just the right amount of hype to keep looking forward to release, even if it’s years off.
Thank you❤
These quarterly Ashes Of Creation recaps are great! I really dont have the time to watch all these live streams so i am very happy there is somebody who can keep me updated
Yes, I love these quarterly updates and thank you so much for compressing it down to a short video!
15:20 "one-eyed cyclops". all cyclops have one eye. that's what the name literally means.
two wheeled bicycle
Um Akshually Cyclops means round eyes
@ArkhBaegor um, awkchewallie it means one eye. Cyclops are a race of one eyed creatures. There's a fish with one eye named after it as well. Or a shellfish. Some water animal.
@TobiasKryze never seen someone so confident about being wrong but the word "cyclops" almost directly translates to "round eyes" or "round eye" lol. The name is tied to a creature with one eye but it doesn't mean one eye.
@GrippeeTV if you removed your head out of your ass for half a second. Peon was literally referring to an actual Cyclops. A Greek monster. Having 1 eye. Cyclops have 1 eye that is what they are and always have been since they were created.
But wow I've never seen someone so confident in being wrong before.
*eye roll*
i enjoy checking out this project every 2-3 years. nice to hear this team is still working on something. i remember watching a stream of a super early build and they sounded passionate about their project.
Always look forward to these videos! Love ashes but hard to follow regularly so these are perfect! Thank you
Craig's grandson in 2074: Ashes of Creation is finally open for preorders!!
by the time this game gets released you will probably turn into a martial arts youtuber
Holy crap my guy your training has really done wonders I forget that you're jacked now and I watch a video and I'm blown away
Looks promising! There is still a lot of work to be done, but I have high hopes for Ashes!
Thanks for your efforts, man. I don't play mmorpgs anymore, but I still listen to most of your videos while I am doing chores or woodworking. Your comment at the end just felt so spot on of just enjoying your run down of things.
This game will probably be a mini game in star citizen in 2100.
Really nice summary of the updates! Thanks.
I feel like the VFX for the skills are all over the place without a pattern
Bro chill. This is just Alpha Two Phase One Part One Season One Episode Zero.
Give them until at least Alpha Two Phase One Part One Season One Episode One 😅
their art team in general is just pretty bad. everything looks uninspired and generic
@@rzt430 it's alpha, you dipshit 🤣
@@rzt430 I have been flamed for saying this but I will die on this hill, this is a game built for and by Steven. And it's probably what will wreck it long term.
@@vadekaWhy do you think that?
Thanks for the updates- greatly appreciated
Gone are the days when everyone gets to explore a new mysterious world together on equal footing. Now you have youtubers, players who are willing to pay a premium and twitch streamers exposing all secrets and most efficient powerlevelling methods long before it's official 1.0 release.
I mean I don’t think they’re giving a lot or most away in the alphas but could be wrong
Uhhh this has been the case since the early 2000's you were just unaware that people were testing.
@@Touchin-Grass true 👏 not to mention this comes with there open development style which for me at least is refreshing and I’ve not (personally) seen done before
@@Touchin-Grass exactly, we just didnt have the platforms and exposure to these testers outside of maybe television or magazines (g4tv or Edge magazine) . Even then, press were often made to sign extensive NDAs at trade shows or as testers.
Agreed. And this today is true of all games in general. There's no more mystery or intrigue; no more exploration. Before ANY game is released these days, online or not, there's thousands of videos from thousands of streamers, all of whom receive early or early-early access. In the old days? Only media sites (which there were a small handful of) had any pre-access to a game. Beta for MMORPGs was the only exception, and back then it was difficult to get into a beta and generally people only got in slightly before release. Looking at single player games, take Elden Ring... before this game was public there were already streamers who had completed the game and were posting best builds, guides, etc. by the thousands. But back to your point: this seriously hurts MMORPGs more than single player games, because it gives early access players a massive advantage in mechanics and knowledge. And the worst part? Players are paying a company to play their unfinished product just because the company knows people are desperate enough to do it. Video game culture as a whole has become a horrible place the past 10-15 years, much like most things in our world, and all due to the advent of social media across the internet. This game isn't going to save the MMORPG market. I don't think the MMORPG market will ever be what it once was because our culture and video gaming culture have changed too much. And people cannot return to past time periods, no matter how they try to emulate it. MMORPGs as we knew them were part of an older time period. MMORPGs today live in a different era, and they suffer because of it.
Great work as usual, LP. Been following since your frist Ashes vid 4(ish) years ago. Keep up the great content m8!
By the time this is actually released there will probably be a better MMO that will come out with all the advances in gaming technology.
remember Riot is also working on a mmo, and they're well known for great quality products. Everything they did was a massive success:lol, valorant, LoRT, Arcane, K/DA music, etc. I doubt their mmo will not follow this success. By the time AoC releases RIot's mmo will be years old, with everything AoC promised and more. Time is a limited resource, it seems AoC devs don't understand this. Competition is getting better and better, when they finally release AoC their game will be mediocre and have things all other mmos do.
@@miuletzmitzu6641riot's mmo just did a reset development a few months ago. That game is prob 5+ years away brother
@@mario_haslan like 7+ months ago
My friend you should watch the server meshing stream from ashes because there is just 2 mmos that are really trying to evolve mmo tech. AoC and SC with dynamic meshing servers.Also AoC converted ue5 into multi thread and added multiservices for specific systems
For that to be true those "better MMOs" would have to be in development for years now too. Do you guys really think that in 2years there will suddenly pop a never-heard-before, entire new MMO that will swipe the market?? This is taking so long for a reason, MMOs just take that long to develop, all of them. The Riots MMO might be only real competitor but we don't even know if it's actually getting done or maybe they changed focus afterall (focusing on another game)
Your videos are always awesome, thank you so much for covering this for so long
Am i the only one who’s lost all hype for this game? I mean there’s been 100+ updates at this point, i just don’t give a shit anymore.
its called an active development you dont see this kind of update from other games coz they hide it until after 10yrs it is playable and ready for release
just ignore it and come back in like 2028 and there might be something we can play
you may be the only one, I am more hyped than ever
I was never hyped to begin with because it was much more of a proof of concept than anything else, but watching Peons videos on it over the years and now that it seems to be coming together into something that actually looks promising I'm pretty interested actually. Steven seems to know what makes a great MMO, having played them so religiously himself and from watching him speak about the game and why they make certain design choices, node system is pretty unique and the more classic/hardcore MMO nature of it is super appealing as someone who doesn't enjoy games that allow you to just rush the leveling process in a day and misses when leveling was a true part of the game and not something you just wanted done and over with so you can get to the quote on quote "real game".
What people dont understand is all these years of "developing" is only for releasing a bare, base game. If you think about possible patches, enhancements, qol updates after the game is released. Then youd know that mmorpgs should only be handled by studios who have a lot of resources / manpower.
Thanks for this very good and clear video, summarizes everything I wanted to know since last video.
Guild Wars 3 is really shaping up nicely.
Guild Wars 3 / Archeage mix
Oh god I hope its not like that thrash. Its meant to be Lineage 2 and Archeage successor, not a fucking snooze fest like Gw2.
@whoaskedyoutolookatthis You feel pretty strongly about this, huh? lol
I remember Archeage having over 100+ classes, with over half of that number being useless. How many of AoCs 64 class combos are going to follow in said footsteps here?
spoken like someone who has no idea what they're talking about...
@@allthatishere the fact that you have the capability of making useless classes is the charm. GW2, in my opinion, feels soulless. I like vertical growth, an mmorpg is meant to be a second world, a world you visit when you have the time, where you grind, where you dabble in the politics of the world, where you have to learn about the market, etc, etc, etc. GW and other "theme park first" mmorpgs feel soulless when you are looking for that experience. i've tried Gw2 literally when it came out, then a few years back, and then this year, i can NEVER get to it. You are in a treadmill and you just have to follow whatever the magical box of quests tells you, monsters are meant to scale to your level so whatever sense of progression is lost, as you can never revisit an old place and feel powerful, and I honestly don't have the wordsmithing capabilities to tell you everything I find boring as shit about it. In lineage 2, if you were level 40, a lvl 15 zone would be literal trash, the levels really felt like progression, enchanting too, and you had the freedom of going wherever the fuck you wanted, you had world bosses, open-world dungeons, etc, etc. Gw2 is just a WoW clone, i'd rather prefer korean style old school mmorpgs.
When I got the Alpha 2 email, I immediately came here to look for this video. I appreciate your recaps as always!
the running animation is crazy xD
1998 stuff 😆
The game is stll unfinished and it's still in alpha.
Great content as always!
Can't wait to try it in 11 days!
Most people following this game now will not have the time to play this game by the time it launches because they will be in their 30s and 40s if not 50s and life will get busier and busier
That and grinding out video games gets way less appealing when youre grinding at work all day.
@@janitor8884 This. I have to make a choice : either play 'normal' games, or MMORPG. I still like to watch news about MMO's, but i know i'll never play them again, cause i just can't see myself play only one game over and over.
Life doesn't get busier and busier... It gets more chill in your 40's and 50's.
Im 40, have 2 Kids and Cancer.
I Play MMOs even If i will die in 5 Years.
Life dont get busier If you get older IT only gets shorter and you have a daylie Rotation.
Just Look at your Parents... If they dont sit everyday on the TV they would have a Lot of time for Games
Not really lol..
Finally here and so much less than everyone expected
time do fly, from 2016 to 2024, only needs 2 more years to hit the usual 10 year mmo development mark. its been a ride ladies and gentlemen
Enjoy your never ending ride
@@GoldenOne2422 thank you!
Glad to see the huge amount of inspiration taken from Everquest Bard
The world looks really good, the boss fights look solid and I like the town and events but the character models look out of place, like they were dropped in, the class SFX and UX/UI looks dated. The Bard seems like it is trying to fit in too many themes for its abilities.
@@T0beyeus it’s in alpha 2 and I believe they said once they’ve got the core of the game down animations and models will be improved but they want to get the game working well first, as someone who loved the bard showcase and can’t wait to play a bard I do agree tho
I agree, and i ubderstand that alpha two, but the ui for me should always be heavely invested. Take New World for example, the UI is so acessible so a lot of.players got quickly afapted to the game, also it gave the game its own feel, u look into a video, u are always seeing the ui. About the character, i feel like they are okay, i juat dislike the camera, so centered in the char it makes it look out of place
@@luisandrade2120 that’s fair, I’m sure you’ll see it improve through development
by the time this game releases we all 6 feet under
subbbed for years and years now man, good to see your doing so well and the content is still awesome
This has been in development for 8 years, that’s crazy and only in Alpha
I can't wait for the bigger public to start crying that the game is unfinished when they see footage of an ALPHA TEST
You cant wait to see people upset? Youre seriously broken dude.
@@EricXVII r/woosh
imagine wanting to see people upset. toxic af
@@lonelykitchen r/woosh
@@thomasnorman5978 if u have to keep saying that ur 'joke" didn't hit. L
Been following you and your craft since i was 13 back in 2012... Look at you loking like a grown man ! Happy to see you Peon!
I like what they're doing but like I said before...once this game is ever going to be released it will be so outdated...sad
It will be dead bro, not outdated
Pretty much. The combat will only be playable/bearable for most MMO gamers who are actively playing MMOs even at the stage they're in (aka addicts with no standards).
say that to wow combat
lol outdated? WoW is still the most popular mmorpg and there hasnt released anything to rival it yet except ffxiv, ur acting like quality mmorpgs are released daily
@@songoku6067 ashes looks beautiful but that's not what defines a quality MMO, the IP behind wow is so powerful that it has kept it on the throne for so long. If the gameplay of ashes isn't fun then no amount of graphics will save it. And yes yes it's still alpha now.. we aren't allowed to judge em etc etc but they will really need to pull out all the stops to try and not be remembered as a pretty but meh MMO.
Also, as many business people say, the best product can fail if it misses the time to market window. We will see in a few years which prediction comes true
Thanks for the video! Looking forward to Seeing more content.
The fantasy star citizen we didn’t know we needed!
Looks great. My Tesla Megan Fox bot and I will be enjoying it when it comes out
Ashes of Creation timline :
2027 - Alpha 3
2030 - Beta 1
2033 - Beta 2
2036 - Beta 3
december 2039 - Release .. finally .. yay
january 2040 - the company announces bankruptcy
Alternattive timeline
2039 : they realize their engine is totally outdated so they start moving to a newer engine
2042 : Alpha 1 on new engine ..
Cringe comment
@@Touchin-GrassOk fanboy
Unfortunately this appears to be a possible timeline. Sucks because it looks really great.
@@Touchin-Grass Cringe cause you know its very possible, this seems to be quite common these days with overhyped mmos like this one.
@@janitor8884 But their "engine" is Unreal engine and they are keeping current with it.
3 years inbetween Alpha 1 and 2 is wild
Has it been 3 years already? I haven't been keeping track. My god.
Hopefully after this very long development time, the game will give mmo players a game they can enjoy, I personally gave up on mmos, but would still be cool if the game breaths life into the dying gener.
Thanks for the update. I like how the game looks so far. It seems more promising than TOL.
This game is a lost cause, players are so down bad that they willingly play just to be a beta tester lol and then when it comes out, the game will be okay and somewhat dead around 3-6months.
Good video as always, I am excited to play the alpha and I hope to see you there as well!
What is the gameplay loop? What is there to actually DO that will keep people playing for hours and hours on end. I still haven't seen anything that convinces me the game will be content rich. The only real content I've seen are group caravans and world bosses.
Exactly an mmo needs at least 6 months of end game content ready at launch to keep a population. After 8 years we’ve barely left the starting zone
up to you. pvp, questing, dungeons, raids, resource gathering, node leveling, social aspects, crafting, exploring, etc. like almost every mmo. he even mentions some in the video.
not to directly criticize your character, but you should probably look into it more or at least watch Peons other videos. framing your comment as ignorance while also implying/signaling that there's actually nothing to do in the game comes off as a bit malicious and fairly negative to those who have put the time in to inform themselves.
@@zerohcrows "not to directly criticize your character"
But thats exactly what you're implying - your comment reeks of arrogance and its hilariously hypocritical. I said that I haven't seen anything that convinces me that the game will be content rich. I expressed it as an OPINION, not fact.
Substantial questing, dungeon content, (non open world) PVP, raiding haven't been shown very much.
I may be uninformed, but at least I'm not a pretentious asshole.
@@zerohcrows "not to directly criticize your character"
But thats exactly what you're doing. And you accuse ME of arrogance? That is hilarious hypocritical.
I expressed my comment as an OPINION, not a fact. I'm a $500 backer and I'm allowed to ask critical questions. I didn't insult anyone, I didn't say that the game sucks. I simply said that I haven't seen enough to convince me there will be a captivating gameplay loop. High quality dungeon, questing, raiding, or (non caravan) PVP content has NOT been shown. Only a few world bosses, and fairly bland dungeon crawls.
I may be uninformed, but at least I'm not leaving condescending, passive aggressive, holier-than-thou replies like you are.
Edited: Remember folks, don't let rude people on the internet affect you in any way. They aren't worth your time and their behavior is a reflection of THEM, not you.
Honesty is why I follow you. Still 100 kiddio! Keep it coming.🙂
The bard sounds so good for tanks off spec lol
Well, I'm just wondering why you say this.
At the moment, we don't know much about how Augments will work, aka how your secondary will impact your primary archetype. And we won't know until next year, and Stage 3 of Alpha 2..
Well I say this because I assume stuff like you said we don't know anything.
But buffing / aura / debuff / hex sound great on a support spec. If the guardian is already tanky enough and doesn't need dmg for holding aggro? Giving out buffs/ lifesteal/ small heals or hexes is great
@@johnweig4667 It does sound great, I just fear a lot of people (including myself) might be disappointed by how the augment system will work.
From what we know, it will just change your x Tank ability into a something with different visuals, and maybe different mechanics (added damage, added effects, etc.).
You won't have brand new abilities, you'll just have modified base archetype abilities, based on the augment you select.
Your condensed updates for AOC have been very helpful. I am much too lazy to watch the entire streams they do, so this is great.
Looking at these updates I can't shake the feeling that AoC is the harbinger of doom for the MMORPG genre. It is going to suck and break the heart of every MMORPG enjoyer in the world. I hope not, but... all this is not very confidence-inspiring.
Our hearts have been broken for longer than many people watching this have been alive man.
@@Jp808 well, I sincerely hope I'm wrong and this one is the good one for you.
A high tier backer that they got to speak to the elite developer/creator. That after a few conversations they got their packing refunded as it was clear he was a chronic liar saying whatever to sell the game.
thnx for coverin this Lazy! Im on the fence, but eager.
With how much money is being poured into this game and how long it's taken to reach even this stage, this HAS to be some kind of elaborate money laundering scheme, right? I can't be the only one thinking this
They honestly should be investigated by the FTC.
Star Citizen enters the room...
No it basically has the biggest scope of any modern mmo, no other game will have even 30% of it's features when fully complete.
@@mazmundie there are games already which have more features than this broken mess
@@mazmundie Sounds like the advertising for Star Citizen and The Day After lol
Appreciate the effort you put into this channel.
Personally, im excited to see this games next stage. It seems like all the haters got here first, but im still excited to see what Alpha 2 looks like.
It's insane how haters are actually always watching these videos and leaving negative comments. Like if you don't like it, just go do something else, and spend your time on something you enjoy lol.
@@_Diktator These kinds of people don't have anything they enjoy. That's the point, the just want to tear stuff down. They don't want others to have a good time or to have things they like. They are bitter and resentful.
"One eyed cyclops awaits" xD
All cyclops are one eyed!
A PvP focused MMO announced in 2016, that took 3 years to go from alpha 1 to alpha 2 and whose CEO says that alpha will still be “full of bugs”. What could possibly go wrong?
Most alphas are full of bugs and MMOs take the longest to make
Can't wait to start testing this game.
i am not sure this game will ever come out.
When it was announced i was a bit hyped, but with what progress they have made in 8 years....not so much anymore.
The skills actually look really good. The fluidity and movement while casing is also really nice. Im impressed so far
Ah a peon ashes video, all is well in the world once again.
As long as they keep up the pace of updates, I don't mind if other people want to pay to improve the game. Making the systems behind node growth and the PvE/PvP at each stage interesting and not feel procedural/boring will be tough and take a lot of time and testers. A lot of custom quest/story/loot content for each way the world's nodes can be developed will have to be added, along with believable reactive NPC factions/armies.
running looks so goofy to me
Lazy jogging animation. Ugliest shit I've ever seen.
They dont even have an animation to rotate your character...but they want to implement all this other crap like politics and "Vassaling"
Looks Fantastic! I am excited.
Why the ghouls at 7:08 moved like an atari game npc lmao
golden axe :D
'cause it's an alpha xD
@@LlewdLloyd for how many years lol
@@nasrihaithem9529 until it's ready. Would you rather a shit game? Or a good game?
@@LlewdLloyd You sound like an avid Star Citizen enjoyer lol
"Don't abandon your current MMOs just yet"
Dont worry Peon, there was no danger of that 😝
I’m sorry but anyone else feel like this game is very “meh” so far for how LONG it’s been in development?? The graphics look outdated af already. I’m sorry but this game is going to flop on release if they don’t make some major changes, mark my words.
Animations look worse than vanilla WoW, and the armour looks like cheap Marvel statist props. Sad shit.
Thank you for the video! All the best ;)
Wow they made a boss, groundbreaking
My great-great grandchildren are going to love this game!
The sheer inability to deliver progress on this game is astounding. It tells me that there’s something wrong in the production pipeline, and even if the game releases, updates will drop slow.
This needs to be brought up more. Intrepid just needs to shut up, stop the update videos, develop the game, and release the product within the next couple of years or this game will disappear. I swear Steven has dinner with Chris Robert's on a weekly basis.
What do you mean inability to deliver progress? Have you even followed this game's development in the past 1-2 years?
@@_Diktator Of course they haven't.
You are a perfect example of how 90% of the critics literally know nothing about the game or have followed its progress.
I love that the debuff gained from a player doing a goofy dance in front of you is called humiliate
So if alpha 1 took 3 years, we are probably looking at another 3 for alpha 2, and then maybe another year for beta?
Dope only 15 more years till the beta! Mad hyped to play this game with my great grandchildren on launch day!
Whats up with Lazy's mouth, Ai generated?
new teeth
Ahhhh it looks so beautiful! I can't wait to play!
I was 29 when I first heard of this game, since i got married, bought a house and my daughter is almost 6 yo.
I know, they should take there time for it to be really good, no rush.
But you know..just saying.
Have you heard of star citizen? I was 3 weeks old, now im 10 years old and going to school and stuff. I’ll be prob having children when it comes out
The "God help us" with a fading voice, had me laughing like an idiot. hahaha I am still laughing trying to type my comment. Brilliant my dude, pure brilliance! Keep it up, and yeah, let's hope we will live to play this masterpiece!
People who complain about them being slow about releasing the game dont realize how much work making an MMORPG take. Its the hardest genre in the industry and Intreped studio has been open about their development from the very start, which we all should appreciate alot more. Not many gaming studios does that and the progress they show from month to month is really good.
no one cares
@@kirururik correction, you don't care but I do and so do many others so sling it. Why tf are you even here 😂.
@@adamcunningham6008he’s here to make the joke about coming back when it releases in 2076. I really could care less about people that know nothing about the game and pass by saying something witty then goes back to WoW retail or some other P2W game.
we are literally getting to see what a brand new indie studio trying to make an mmo looks like....but...average IQ in the west is falling rapidly.
@@AuxxiliaryATC if u "could care less" than go ahead and start caring less 😂
Phase 3 looking like the best bang for one's buck, like a sweetspot between a testing ground and an actual game, with approx. 2 years of playtime ahead until release.
By the time this game might actually release, it'll be forgotten.
you’re so wrong. and what do you mean with ”might”?
@@chrisantonidasludwig lol
@@chrisantonidasludwig LoL.. dude. When was this game announced? 2016? It's justified to be sceptical.
@@freshtendrills5969 that’s fair. I was sceptical many years ago. but have you not seen the progress?
These videos are the only way I would be able to keep up with ashes development. Absolutely love watching this game get made as it really seems to have everything I was hoping for from Archeage but implemented with (from my view) more care and with just the better technology of today. I know it's not out and things could change, but I really feel like this is the MMO I've been wanting ever since I first heard about Archeage, my entire friend group have been hopping MMO to MMO chasing the high we got from that, but this is the first game that felt true promise in a long time.
This is Shroud of the Avatar with a bigger budget. By the time this actually releases, no one will even care. This is an unemployment program for developers.
Great recap, as always.
This game looks horrible . I don't get the hype at all. It feels and looks like if Wow was a horrible game and launched 40 years ago
Tab target with dozens of skills in 2026(?), like we don't have enough of those... it will be dead on arrival.
This new format with you on facecam at the begining of your videos is for our greatest pleasure, you're so gorgeous !
Now the topic of the video, i'm so impatient and excited for the Alpha of Ashes of Creation, i've been following the dev of the game since the trailer for the kickstarter. Can't wait !
Don't know what in this game looks good to you people, from the start till now, everything i see about this game looks mediocre at best.
And when it releases closer to 2030 it will look much more outdated
@@Versosurma True
Looks good. Nice world, gameplay looks good, lots of work on abilities.
This game is such an overhyped mess. It looks awful next to something recent like Throne and Liberty too. Everything about the assets are just amateur looking and literally look worse than stuff you find on the Unreal Engine store
^ This. The whole development just seems really slow and really bad so far. They also like to reveal things as "groundbreaking" that have been in other MMO's for 10+years (charge uphill?!), and advertise it as genre-defining changes
1.5+ years in A2, but B1+B2 will run concurrently. A2 server will be PTR.
So, I'm looking potential at release in Fall 2026 /Spring 2027.
$15/month to try it for 30 days seems worth it. We'll see.
Can‘t wait for Alpha 3
Well, the really is that...Alpha 2 has three alphas inside. 2.1...2.2 & 2.3 🤡🤡
In 2033