Cafe Racer Build 28, Suzuki GS550 Swapping for bigger jets and adjusting needle height

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  • @ANDY5
    @ANDY5 7 років тому +2

    Cool. Hopefully that will work okay.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому +1

      Thanks Andy, and thanks for your suggestion for the sizes, Dynotek ignition kit is being installed this week so we'll see how they work together.

  • @bhunter8476
    @bhunter8476 5 років тому

    Never done this till today, definitely couldn't have done it without your video!!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 років тому

      Excellent, glad it went ok

    • @bhunter8476
      @bhunter8476 5 років тому

      @@forthebold do u have a video for tuning the carbs after re jetting and adjusting needle height? Thnx!

  • @kylelanphear6387
    @kylelanphear6387 6 років тому

    This video has helped me so much. I am so thankful you take the time to make these. I have successfully re jetted the carbs on my 1980 gs550 and it runs so good with pods now. THANK YOU

  • @f100unibody9
    @f100unibody9 7 років тому +1

    Good job! I think your definitely in the ballpark on your choice of jets. I think you still might be a hair lean on the main but it should run good. Raising the needle makes a big difference. The only other suggestion I would offer is to bench sync them before you install them. It's easy and puts you very close. After jetting is sorted out then take the time to sync properly. Keep up the good work!!

  • @d.r.grewar1187
    @d.r.grewar1187 7 років тому

    Awsome cant wait to hear the suzuki roar ,thanks again ive learnt much watching your build

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому +1

      +Donald Grewar me neither. Been 22 years since this bike ran properly so I believe.

  • @dnosbush
    @dnosbush 7 років тому

    Looking forward to seeing the bike run! Great job with the videos! I put a Dyna S ignition in my 79 gs550 and new dyna coils and it runs great. Love it

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +Danny Nosbush great. Good to hear no regrets about the dyna s

  • @rickconstant6106
    @rickconstant6106 2 роки тому

    The float bowls for these carbs are left or righthanded, and should be fitted with all the drain screws facing outward, so they can be accessed with the carbs in position.

  • @pioneergaming7303
    @pioneergaming7303 7 років тому

    Love your videos I've been working in a gs 850 and your videos helped a lot. I'd like to ask though how can I sync my carbs when it comes to the fuel and air screws and also setting the slides properly. Hope you can help me out.

  • @MRACGun
    @MRACGun 6 років тому +2

    How did this jet/needle set up work for you? I have the same setup and am ordering jets for my 89 550E. This build has been a huge help. Thanks from the US!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому +1

      This worked fine, had to turn the fuel around 1.75 turns out and the air about 0.25 turns, and lifted the needle up by 2 notches in the end, although if you have an '89 I think that's CV carbs so from what I understand the needle stay the same.

    • @MRACGun
      @MRACGun 6 років тому +1

      Sorry I have a '78 not an 89. They are VM22 carbs. Thanks!

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому +2

      Ah, in that case I know what I'm talking about now ;) yeah, as mentioned above then, I am fitting K&N filter pods rather than the cheap ones I put on this weekend so I'll see if it's still the same with those.

    • @MRACGun
      @MRACGun 6 років тому +2

      Perfect! Look forward to seeing how they do. Hard finding solid info outside of the gs forum and most everyone there says to just leave them alone ha. I received my bike last year in great condition and running well. Was a little hard tearing it apart but can't wait to see the end result.

  • @forrestnetuschil3760
    @forrestnetuschil3760 6 років тому

    I just bought a gs1000 and runs like a sack of potatoes. It's a 4 to 1 exhaust and has pods. The main jet is 120 and the slow jet is 27.5. Is this too high of a jetting system? Should I downsize to a lower main/slow jets?
    I also checked the spark plugs and they look pretty black, I'm guessing it's running too rich? Thanks!

  • @nevido84
    @nevido84 6 років тому

    this is a very good video and should be highlighted more. =) You mentioned in comments that you will share a like in description for the guide you use when you adjust based on what exhaust and pod the bike has but I haven't seen in it there yet.

  • @brev5057
    @brev5057 4 роки тому

    did you raise the washer or lower it on the needle shim? cuz inverse of that washer effects the height of that needle i believe

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 роки тому

      Lowering a washer lifts up the needle.

  • @sachascurlock968
    @sachascurlock968 7 років тому

    Hi love the build, I have a 79 gs550 looking to re jet. I have a 4 into 1 motard exhaust and small pod filters. All stock carb at the moment. It does run bit won't stay at idle. What would u suggest jet wise, and where did you get the new jets from ?? Same carbs as u

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +Sacha Scurlock I think the 87.5 mains I have are too small still. At a guess I'd say try 90 or 95 as you have a 4 in 1. Jetsrus are good

  • @ChaoticDetour
    @ChaoticDetour 7 років тому

    Looking good, that's a lot of carbs to adjust and balance. Glad I'm not the one in charge of it, hahaha

  • @joshuaboyd9350
    @joshuaboyd9350 4 роки тому

    Just rebuilt my carbs thanks to you.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 роки тому

      Glad I could help in some way

  • @DarkVarda
    @DarkVarda 7 років тому +2

    I hate that you only make one vid a week I wanna watch more :D

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +The Vardarioter I know. I had 2 videos a week a few months ago but it's finding content. Once these bikes get a bit faster at coming together I can go back to 2 a week. Motovlogs will be easier to maintain fresh content

    • @rmillermann
      @rmillermann 7 років тому +1

      Maybe you could show us the process of producing your videos, I would be jnterested . what video equipment you use and your editing process...

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +rmillermann good idea. I use a canon 70d with an 18mm lens and after effects for editing

  • @anthonytrumble7176
    @anthonytrumble7176 4 роки тому

    So, tearing carbs out this weekend for jetting on an 78 gs550. And I'm finding different answers on jet sizing.
    A stock main jet is a size 80?
    But a stock pilot jet is either 50 or 15???
    I want to bump mains up to 90s for pod filters and 4 into 2 free flowing exhaust
    But do I order 17.5 pilots or something over 50?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 роки тому +1

      So the 50s you’re reading would be the later cv carbs secondary mains it seems. With a 78 my money is on 17.5 as it’s a slide carb. But best bet is to open it up and see what markings you have

    • @anthonytrumble7176
      @anthonytrumble7176 4 роки тому

      @@forthebold copy that
      What about mid jets? Just leave them?
      Thanks alot man
      Videos are wicked !
      Going to follow your lead and chop the front fork springs this weekend
      Assuming I can find the right size pipe to chop down for the spacer

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 роки тому +1

      Thanks. There are no mid jets on them so to speak (not replaceable anyway). Your mid throttle is controlled by your needle height.

  • @julesgolay6727
    @julesgolay6727 7 років тому

    hi, where can i get a full specification sheet of this particular carbs, or where ca i get a full susuki gs550 manuel on internet, thank you

  • @romacthingstodo
    @romacthingstodo 4 роки тому

    Hey great help on your vids. I'm working on a 77 gs550. Just busy rebuilding the carbs. What was your final setup on the jets and needle height with the k&n pods. I'm ordering the same pods and have ordered 97.5 mains to try. Running 4 into 1 exhaust. North east England on the coast. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks Rob

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 роки тому +1

      Hey. I’ve actually been playing with my GS last year before the weather got too cold. Went up to 110s to see how they’d perform as it was starving a little at full mid to full throttle.

    • @romacthingstodo
      @romacthingstodo 4 роки тому

      @@forthebold thanks for replying. I will let you know how I get on with the k&n 's and 97.5s when they come. Gave carbs a good clean as bike was bogging down past half throttle, that was with cheap pods on with a rubber strip wrapped around them to reduce flow. The cheap pods came with the bike. Start and tick over was great. Cheers Rob

  • @davidrice3056
    @davidrice3056 7 років тому

    Great vid as usual mate. Just checking you lowered the clips on the needles in order to raise the needle height and richen the mix right? 🤔
    If you raised the clip you will have actually lowered the needle and leaned it out. Easy to confuse the process, but got the impression you were going to raise the clip.... hope I'm wrong though 🙂👍

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +David Rice thanks. All the right way. Lowered the clip to raise the needle

  • @walkerdocs1
    @walkerdocs1 6 років тому

    great channel. somewhere I recall you ordering even bigger jets than 87.5 etc?? but haven't seen those installed? what was the final outcome? what jets were used when color tuning? thx.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому +1

      I ended up sticking with these sizes for the colortune video, but instead I've now had K&N filters delivered as this should sort the issue I have with it (I think)

  • @andersonjimenez3484
    @andersonjimenez3484 7 років тому

    Hey For The Bold-Dreegez, you have done a great job man on that bike👍🏼💯. I have a question I have the same Gs550 bike as you, made it cafe racer and it's been a nightmare I can't figure out why the bike just die after few seconds when I leave it ON without accelerating it. I bought new coils new rectifier new battery new spark plugs new oil filter, changed the oil, and still has that problem, could you help me, need your help please

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому +1

      +Anderson Jimenez same as me currently. Does it run with choke? Have you fitted pods and an aftermarket exhaust?

    • @andersonjimenez3484
      @andersonjimenez3484 7 років тому

      For The Bold - dreegez Yea, and yea I fitted new pods, but no I have not fitted an aftermarket exhaust.

  • @SendingStache
    @SendingStache 7 років тому

    solid work as always, mate!

  • @mr.m5936
    @mr.m5936 5 років тому

    Great video! PLEASE, I need help with the GS550 witch one I just bought recently. It has an exhaust system 4 to 1 and 4 air pods. Carb VM22SS has main jet 92,50 and midrange jet 50. I am having trouble to start it and either run it. Looks like it is choking, recently changed new spark plugs and new petcock but no improvement.
    Wondering to swap air pods back to airbox but I am not sure what should be settings for VM22SS carb with exhaust 4in1? I'll be grateful for any help.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 років тому

      What pods are you using?

    • @mr.m5936
      @mr.m5936 5 років тому

      @@forthebold sorry but not sure what make. I can say it is not K&N but some after market pods, maybe China made

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  5 років тому

      That’s you’re answer there. It’s why it’s running bad. Always go a good brand like K&N and put he idle jet up 1

    • @mr.m5936
      @mr.m5936 5 років тому

      @@forthebold thank you for answer. How about main jet if I leave airbox but exhaust is changed to 4 to 1? What size main jet you would recommend? At the moment it is running on 92.5

  • @MrPhilthy08
    @MrPhilthy08 4 роки тому

    I guess I’m late on this but I have a question. I get how you’re choosing the main jets, but how did you decide on 1 size up for the pilot?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 роки тому

      There’s a formula you can find online which calculates your elevation with your exhaust setup and pods

    • @MrPhilthy08
      @MrPhilthy08 4 роки тому

      Thanks! One other question I’m having trouble finding an answer to: There’s 3 tube lines coming from in between the carbs as I’m trying to hook up the gas tank. The only info I can find says the vacuum/return line is the one in between carbs 2 and 3, above the fuel line, and the other 2 are breather lines. Is that what you found to be accurate?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  4 роки тому

      Yeah behind you fuel line is a breather line. That needs to be connected. The other 2 are breathers.

    • @MrPhilthy08
      @MrPhilthy08 4 роки тому

      Thanks!!

  • @lubomirhlavaty7598
    @lubomirhlavaty7598 7 років тому

    Hi, I've been doing needle adjustment also this summer, but it was easier with only one needle :D right? But you know it will put more gas into mixture and it can cause carbonated engine. So, be careful :)

    • @lubomirhlavaty7598
      @lubomirhlavaty7598 7 років тому

      Next video colourtuning? :D

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +Ľubomír Hlavatý yeah at the moment it's too lean but is definitely a struggle with 4 to change

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +Ľubomír Hlavatý yeah at the moment it's too lean but is definitely a struggle with 4 to change

  • @tysvlogs5838
    @tysvlogs5838 6 років тому

    Okay, I'm sure I'll need to get very similar jet sizes as you. What is your source for jets/other carb parts?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому +1

      Ebay

    • @tysvlogs5838
      @tysvlogs5838 6 років тому

      For The Bold - dreegez ah eBay, my old familiar friend. Alright, thank you for your reply.

  • @alex2000908
    @alex2000908 7 років тому

    Where do you find all this informations about engines and all that stuff? i think i saw a book one day?i am really into taking a honda cb400sf for a cafe project and i am trying to collect as much informations as i can !

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +AlexSouk it's just learning over the years from working on different engines. Manuals will have useful information such as valve gaps etc. Good luck if you start your project #daretobuild

    • @alex2000908
      @alex2000908 7 років тому

      thank you !

  • @aspengau7278
    @aspengau7278 6 років тому

    Love the vids! I've got the same gs550 and have been having a hell of a time trying to find jets for it. What site did you use?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому

      I ordered mine from ebay once I knew what size I needed.

  • @amosgottardi103
    @amosgottardi103 7 років тому

    How do you calculate the size of the jets? I've got a gs550 katana with mikuni carbs, pod filters and 4into1 exhaust. What would you suggest?

    • @amosgottardi103
      @amosgottardi103 7 років тому

      It's a 1981, so same engine as yours

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому +1

      +Amos Gottardi I used a chart where you go up 2 sizes if you use 2-1 exhausts etc then add another if you use pods. I'll find the chart and paste into the description

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому +1

      +Amos Gottardi best check your carburettors to see if they're CV or slide. Pre 1980s were slide and post 1980s are CV. CV I believe are more difficult to set up

    • @amosgottardi103
      @amosgottardi103 7 років тому

      For The Bold - dreegez yeah it's CV, carbs, it's running ok, but seeing the spark plugs it looks too rich and infact I think the jets are quite big, 42.5 pilot and 115 mains, I'll try and play around a bit ahaha thanks for the answer 💪🏻your videos are amazing

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому +1

      +Amos Gottardi wow. Pretty big jets but to be honest I don't know how my 87.5s are going to go. So I might even have to go bigger.

  • @tysvlogs5838
    @tysvlogs5838 6 років тому

    Are you running a fuel filter btw?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому +1

      Yes built into the tank

  • @Goguissfull
    @Goguissfull 6 років тому

    Top! I love this videos, always LIKE before watching. Great channel.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому +1

      Thanks or your support.

  • @wangofree
    @wangofree 6 років тому

    I've enjoyed this series, but in changing the jets, it would help if you had a close up of each new jet, and showed one sequence where you S L O W L Y screwed the pilot jets together and inserted them. Your arm is in the way as you blast through the process at high speed. Otherwise, top notch stuff.

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому

      I'll be doing both the CB750 and CX500 soon so I'll shoe them there

  • @jaredrandall3609
    @jaredrandall3609 6 років тому

    Where did you get your jet kits?

    • @MRACGun
      @MRACGun 6 років тому

      Jared Randall I found a good set of genuine mikuni on amazon. I'm in the US

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому

      I didn't buy kits, just the individual jets I needed from ebay, a 10th cheaper than a kit.

  • @gaskinsgarage4192
    @gaskinsgarage4192 6 років тому +2

    Why in the hell would you fast track through everything i need to see this and im screwed nice well thanks for some help i guess

  • @michaelkikon7
    @michaelkikon7 7 років тому

    If only I had the skills and tools like you ....I would tear down my old Enfield continental GT and make it smooth again😀

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +Michael Kikon I think patience is probably rated more than skill. I'm learning to have more patience with these bikes

  • @xXalexkablamXx
    @xXalexkablamXx 6 років тому

    can i get the link to these parts?

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому

      The jets you can get from jetsrus.com

    • @xXalexkablamXx
      @xXalexkablamXx 6 років тому

      @@forthebold thank you.

  • @fizs300
    @fizs300 7 років тому

    Hi....im 16 years old and I want to build a cafe racer...but I dont really what bike to get and which is the cheapest...I have 0 money now and trying to get a part time job to get the money...plz help anyone

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  7 років тому

      +Fizs the best thing I can suggest is to get a part time job helping out or even offering to work for free at a local bike shop or fabricators. Learn the skills that way, get to help build bikes and you never know you might find that there will be spare bikes you can work on yourself

    • @fizs300
      @fizs300 7 років тому

      For The Bold - dreegez thank you for the advice btw love your videos and hope to see more amazing videos in the future

  • @blakebaumeister3859
    @blakebaumeister3859 3 роки тому

    Very frustrating that you briefly mentioned the needle adjustment and that you were going to check which way it was and how many notches, but then you never revist that or confirm

  • @jdwhite2dw
    @jdwhite2dw 6 років тому

    I got a 78 gs 750 with pods and exhaust mufflers just like yours the stock 4 into 2. I have 15 pilot jet, 100 main jet and jet needle set in middle position. Have a suggestion where to start with pilot jet size, main jet size and needle position since I have same air filter and exhaust set up? Follow me on Instagram at dw_moto1

    • @forthebold
      @forthebold  6 років тому

      David White first thing I’d say is bin those carbs and get k&n pods. Up the pilot by 1 size and the May Nhs by 4 (each size is an increase of 2.75 ) and see how that gets you. Raise the needle up by 1 also and roughly 2 screws out of the fuel and about half turn out on the air. Not saying it’s right but it’s what I would try

  • @spymaine89
    @spymaine89 7 років тому

    sorry Mr Goldberg , but that will never work. i am taking my horse and going home.