PP Problems | The Steve Dangle Podcast
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- Опубліковано 29 чер 2024
- On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast,
00:00 The Leafs and their terrible PP lose to the Boston Bruins
53:00 Bruins Leafs jersey guy
55:00 Sammy wasn't great
1:07:00 Joe Bowen's tweet
1:29:00 Edmonton Los Angeles
1:34:00 Dallas is down 2-0
1:40:00 The other series'
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Happens to all men. Nothing to be ashamed of
okay i gotta know... did I miss something? Is there an ad running before the show?
@@adam_wylde PP Problems Adam.
the new video thumbnail ask “does the PP suck?” ..am I immature? .. yep. 🤤
Listen, as a bruins fan, i bought an amazing ticket to game 2, the same day, for 200 USD (including fees). I wasn't even in the nose bleeds. Those would have been cheaper. Right now, the *cheapest* seat for game 4 in Toronto is 420 CAD, and u get no seat, and my view is obscured.
I'm sorry, but part of it is clearly the price. Bruins aren't only dancing around and screaming cause we've won before. it's the real fans. It's these hard-working people or super fans who can actually afford to go to the game.
Like yes, you can't trust your team for sure, but price is part of it.
only 420? since 2020 i was convinced they boosted it to like 1000$ minimum
100% correct! Not to be old fart about it, but in the OLD dirty garden, the tickets were affordable to the working class. It was wild. Not just loud, but the fans were knowledgeable, and were engaged in every play, good or bad
💯
You are 100% right. And that’s why TD Garden is one of the toughest rinks to play in.
This Steve dangle guys delusional if he thinks his team is great nevermind borderline good
RIP Bob Cole, a voice of a generation.
He Harry Neal made watching the leafs tolerable.
@@GoldCountryTrapping”and he suckers him!” -Harry Neal
My childhood was bob cole and harry neal! Nothing but the hits!
It's so funny to watch leafs fans have the same exact conversations about Sammy that is caps fans had.
You say funny, I say depressing
@@xonerex7501you say depressing, I say predictable
Yeah, watching Jesse try to convince Steve that Sammy is the guy and ride him out I winced a little, because it's the wrong take. But also Panarin jersey so. Yeah play Sammy and go down 3-1. Steve has the right attitude. And he nailed it, you have no idea how Sammy is going to play shot to shot.
@@kaldwindrew7752 he's had 3 games, enough of a sample size to know
The goalie that won us a round is being kicked to the curb. Another wasted year… 😢 how sad
Toronto needs to give fans a reason to cheer giving how expensive those tickets are
I miss when captains used to almost always be the best leader on the team. Some teams still have that in place, but it's usually just the best player.
Most teams don't have their best player as captain.
This is so unrelated to the pod but can us viewers get a spin off pod where Adam explains and rants about historical events for an hour each week? I’m genuinely seriously here for it… anyone else?
Yes!!!
Adam's History Corner Podcast? Sign me up yesterday
Been debating signing up for the extra pods, if Adam did this it would make me instantly sign up lol. Even if it's only once or twice a month@@dapperduck4250
I would sub to that.
Will it cost extra?
Boston Pizza watching the leafs play Boston, make it make sense
Boston Pizza is a Canadian Brand
@@SammySlam I know that! But it's still named boston
Have you seen their helmets? It just says Pizza Pizza on them. They don’t want that “Boston” on their helmets. 😂
ask brad treeliving about that
Bruins play in Toronto Dominion Garden. Everything is backwards.
After 23 years i finally was able to get a playoff ticket, was at the 300’s level - Adam’s argument in regards to joe Bowen tweet is sooo on point, give me something to cheer for! Very frustrating game
As a European football ("soccer") fan it always amuses me when Americans and Canadians talk about arena atmosphere and fan support during games. If you root for a team, it doesn't matter how successful they are or how many times they choke. If you're not in the arena/stadium to cheer your team on, don't bother coming. Especially for a playoff game.
Trust me, my hometown football club has been playing like dog poo for the last two months and our fans still sing, chant, and scream their lungs out for 90+ minutes to spur them on. Yes, they are multimillion athletes that should get the job on themselves, but in Europe the fans and the athletes feed off each other. That's how it should be. And this applies to all sports. Football, hockey, basketball, etc..
Playoff hockey is awesome but even the best atmosphere during an NHL playoff game is worse than an average, meaningless European football match. You can get mad at me, and I don't expect you to understand me, but it's a difference like night and day. It's like that Nikola Jokic reply to a reporter asking him if he was intimidated by the hostile atmosphere. "I played in Serbia, brother" 😂
i hate "european football" fans so much. go away
"If they lose this series Sheldon is fired." Its year 5 of saying this...
Who realistically thought that Dubas was going to fire his buddy though?
Hard to believe that the only player talked about in the Tampa/Florida series was Carter. How the hell do you not spend time going over both their goalies and the absolute bananas saves they made?
That Marchand shot was an absolute snipe, couldn’t have placed it better, can’t be blaming Samsonov rly
Watch it again, Sammy was way too deep in his net and Domi was out to lunch.
Get up off his knees and he gets he get that
It‘s fun to hear Maddie just losing it in some of Steve‘s rants
Adam's commentary during the bowen tweet was awesome i love it.
Hes 100% right
@@ThatsBadTV1000%
Adam was cookin during that reaction to bowens tweet and I loved every second of it.
Holy Biological Warfare Batman!!!
Matthews played through the flu and laid 8 hits?
fr??
Super spreader ??
@@BuddaBoomer one can only hope...
Jake Oettinger allowed TWO GOALS last night guys. How could you possibly argue he was the problem?
Does anyone else see the irony in SDPN opening with Boston Pizza ads?
I’ve been thinking the same thing
This is ridiculous, going 0/6 on the powerplay last night and 1/11 in the entire series is unaccetable. If they score on at least half the powerplays last night they could have won the game. Once they get eliminated, Fire the coaches, Fire the President, trade Tavares and Marner and get some proper players with that money, players that will actually show up when the time comes.
They would have to give up picks to trade Tavares
I'm with ya here. It sounds drastic but its really not. Not re-build... but re-shape this team!
Mitch and tavares have no moves. Both have one year left. Can't imagine either is returning without some serious concessions.
Good idea. Impossible to implement.
@@CC-pj7iyJT will come back. He won't be getting much from anyone. Mitchy though, Shanny might end up offering him an 8/12
You need players with hear not fat wallets!!
To add to the point about how the Leafs themselves sabotage their atmosphere (as a Bruins fan, it was wild seeing the seats empty and how it looked like a super bowl crowd in the lower bowl compared to the fanatics pounding the glass all game in TD Garden), there's a relationship between age and economics. The people that can afford the lower bowl seats are going to be wealthier, meaning overall they're going to be older especially since it's mostly businesses buying those seats. Not a lot of teenagers and 20 year olds with corporate money for Leafs season tickets. And they cut to the Maple Leaf Square, not only is the crowd out there losing their minds but they're also noticeably so much younger. The Maple Leafs have basically told their younger fans they're not allowed anywhere near the ice, and while there can for sure be people who are older who bring energy, that has an effect on the energy of the building when the people inside are skewing upper class and older. And for Steven's point about why do they play old hockey music...they're appealing to the wealthiest ticket buyers possible who skew older and who like that stuff as nostalgia and get annoyed at loud music and people cheering around them. They're paying those prices specifically to not be around people who are loud and energetic, like a private bar. They need to drop the prices so that the demographics of who can sit anywhere near the ice changes. Although again as a bruins fan, bless MLSE for never ever considering doing that. Keep up the good work killing your arena.
Marchands tight window ability was elite for a good few years when he was putting up 100 points. After double hip surgery he's for sure slower you can see it but he put in a decade plus of work into giving himself room. He's still the straw that stirs the drink but he's not the engine of the car anymore.
Why is no one mentioning that Sammy was too deep in his net on Marchand goal.
He doesn’t have a stick
Kings win and still get disrespected in many ways possible. Jesus being a kings fan sucks when people just make jokes about your team like we’re an AHL team and not an NHL team. Wow thanks guys
Kings do suck... sorry.
I think there’s pills for that.
Yeah it's willytime
Blue Chew would be a perfect helmet sponsor for the Leafs
Maybe, Joe Bowen might have been directing his ire at the suits.
Then he should've said that, unless he's in cahoots with the suits.
@@Puckhog that seems pretty convoluted and makes no sense to me
@@avecaesar8519 nah
Thank you Adam
The war of 1812. The Industrial Revolution. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
I want Adam to compare/relate the Visigoths to this playoffs run. I believe in him.
Also no one thought the Pens had a shot this season with Dubas and turns out they just missed out.
Yeah, that was cuz of Crosby playing absolutely unreal down the stretch. Without him, they're in the basement of the league.
While true one player can’t save a whole team. Heck 4 players can’t save some teams? Jinx!!!!
Pens were never gonna make it, and if they did would have been swept. The only reason they were even close is because 4 TEAMS decided they didnt want it. A caps team with a -37 is better than the penguins. Think about that.
From what we've seen from the Caps thru 3 games I think I would rather have seen the Pens give it a shot.
How do you bring up the Florida series and not mention the Bob save
im a goalie myself steve, and samsonov has never made me feel comfortable, i agree with you that woll should start game 4
1:29:18 Steve is absolutely correct. That’s one of the things I love about seeing games in Vegas. They rile us up and keep that going throughout the game. Even if the team is down the audience is excited and hopeful
It's Vegas, it's a party town, everyone is there to gamble and have a good time, lots of those people in the stands buy a Vegas Jersey for fun and go to the games just because they're in Vegas.
No Willy that's a PP problem
Golden.
They were bad with willy too. They've been bad for 5 years in the playoffs with willy.
They're fine without Willy. The problem is that the coaching staff makes no adjustments to the bruins collapsing in front of the net.
@@Puckhog They were bad with Willy recently without Marner. Look at the numbers this season with Nylander and Marner on the PP, we have been great. It's more of a lack of creativity and not changing the strategy when the personal has changed. Willy has broken his point PR two years in a row and is a different player the last 2 of the 5 years you mentioned. Historically awful in the playoffs true, but I think the current struggles with the PP are different.
Hi Steve,Adam,Jessie
Kyle here watch every podcast and love what you guys are doing and i look forward to every show! Keep up the great work !
I want to weigh in on the topic of if sammy should play or woll. I My self being a goalie I have some input.
In the past season if you compare Sammy and woll they both have completely diferent play styles,
Sammy seems to look like when the goalies started to and learned the butterfly , and has too much of the mind set of if I go down the puck should hit me and not trying to see the shooter when he is being screened. Even though we have seen that he couldn't stop the puck that was right in front of him.also he seems to have to think about doing somthing instead of instincts doing it for him and chasing the play. Also worst save percentage in the league when being screened!
Woll is very technical and positional and majority of the goals that he's let is is usually d break down or perfectly executed plays/shots. When woll is on his game his instincts take over and he's always on top of the play.
The Two goals Steve was referencing he should stop he should. When I learned the rvh and had to break my old habits of standing and putting one leg up or just being in a butterfly , I saw a great difference in saves and how players reacted.
Players know his positioning is not the greatest and they know that the leafs are playing a certain way to limit those situations which I think isn't helping them play better.
This goalie problem is almost like looking in a mirror if the mirror of the leafs were the bruins. The bruins head coach last year kept sticking to his guns and playing the goalie that was injured and they lost. I see this future for the leafs, this is a pivotal moment and one thing I learns is do we want to win ? Yes will everyone on the team do anything to win ? Yes
The coach is in a tough spot, he's either going to be look my move worked and we won the series or he sticks with Sammy and they lose, if you do the switch by game 5 I think the confidence in the team will be lost.
So we must put feelings aside and they have watched out for his feeling ln the last half of the season. Playoffs you need to win!
Start Woll and run with it , we have seem many teams go through multiple goalies in the playoff and have won the cup or gotten to the cup final. Look at the panthers last season. I believe Woll will rise to the occasion be better and be like he was before he got hurt. Woll dosnt let in muffins or puck go through him like Sammy, it'll force boston to have to play even better to score and give the leafs a breather !
Don't know if you will read this if you do great !
Looking forward to the next podcast!
Also, how should the Leafs be up 2-1 in the series? Games 2 AND 3 were toss ups, and Boston DOMINATED Game 1. So if 2 and 3 could go either way, I think it's apropos that Boston is up 2-1.
the only podcast a listen too
Slow clap for the Episode Name... 👏👏👏 Almost spit out my coffee
That title goes hard…. or not 😂
In fairness to Winnipeg blocking shots, the Avs have made so damn many! I think 3rd after Toronto and Boston with one fewer game or something.
Also, every time Steve gets on the rulebook horse, I am here for it. Good on Steve for tilting at that damn windmill, because it freaking deserves it!
Lmao. That was wonderful
Bruins crowds last playoffs were awful too. I went to game 7 - was the most disappointing part of the loss and frankly it probably contributed to it. The more expensive the tickets are the more fair weather fans there are. Team is down one goal? heckle the home team. Jesus.
We need a SDPN vs. BarDown floorball game!!!!
That oilers Kings series is a battle of high school goaltending. Get BIG SAVE DAVE out there to get a victory.
Talbot won that game for the Kings with the glove save on Draisaitl. Skinner was bad.
@@ariea.devalois1564 Wouldn't put the blame on him, terrible defense as usual and its crazy how Bouchard seems afraid to go in the corners to take the puck. The Oilers can't defend.
Why are the suits down low? If you are a suit in Boston bringing a client to a game you get a box. That makes zero sense that's where you want the fans to be right on the ice. The best viewing is even in a box you see the whole ice.
Re power play:
1. Replace elite shooter ( Nylander missing ) with elite shooter ( Robertson )
2. Speed - passing is too slow, from the first drop back pass to the last controlled pass
3. Speed - everyone should be moving, even net-front and bumper should be doing short distances and possibly interchanging
4. Chaos - there is almost no deception in the Leafs attack. There should be a minimum of 3 ways tostart, a minimum of two distributors, Reilly, Marner, Mathews, and Tavares are excellent, Marner is least effective distrbuter because he isn't a shooting threat ( unlike Kucherov ) create chaos. Since Steve just talked about Tamps's power play it points out exactly why Marner isn't effective in that particular spot, and they don't have a bomber from the point in Reilly.
As a Kings fan I love how much Jesse talks about us and gives us respect (I know he has us losing this series but I can't blame him) however on this one he missed the mark big time. Cam made some MASSIVE saves in this game, one on the PK that was probably the biggest of this series. BUT, he also let in about 2-3 weak ones in this game and in general has allowed ten goals in these two games. He's been overall kinda bad, his massive saves wouldn't mean as much if he could stop the easy wrist shots that are going by him.
This Celtics team is the Leafs of the NBA and I hate it Soooo much. Play up and down to their opponent looking for calls constantly trouble closing a series. All the talent in the world but no snarl 🤦♂️
I think the reffing has been far and away better than it was last year.
Have you considered that someone at the higher ups at the Leafs club does not like Steve and simply doesn’t want him to live stream playoffs watch alongs? It’s clear that even some of the boys at the Leafs team doesn’t like Steve.
Or, they just don't care. He isn't big enough for them to take notice.
When the Canes were down in game two they were playing Slayer and Metallica, I had a chuckle watching the stream and hearing the "charge" trumpets
Steve’s Scarborough crewneck sweater goes so hard. Get this man some New Balances and the dad fit will be off the charts!
Adam Wylde: "People need to HAVE FUN AND BE LOUD AT LEAFS GAMES"
Adam Wylde at a leafs game: "Mmmm yes let me sit and take 14 pages of meticulous notes on this sports event" /s
the leafs should make Steve the play by play on tv, that way yall can have your own Jack Edwards!!
Im not cheering for TO but, i think there are at least 16 coaches in the NHL that can take this leaf team to the stanley cup final.. Imagine having Tortorella coaching this team in the playoff ???
I hate the leafs but it they had him they'd 💯 get past Boston for sure. They are so much better on paper 📃 🏒
I also can’t stand the leafs and was praying Bruce Cassidy didn’t go there lol. Any coach that can install some good team d would create a very dominant team. The cap is a problem but a good coach can simplify d zone for defencemen. Side note the leafs had extensive convos with swayman pre draft and eventually didn’t draft him lol.
And how many teams passed on Kuch, or point, or pasta? Without injury and retiring at 25 we will never know what Ian Scott could have been... But Boston was also looking at another goalie (who was likely Scott) and took the next one up @@trevorrochon6983
@DR.DisInfect better on paper? Their D and Goaltending is far inferior to what boston has. Their forwards are only marginally better and actually not as good in the playoffs as the bruins.
No it's called star problems 😅😅
Nice to see you addressed the surround of Bears.
God bless Adam for sticking up for the fans at the game. I couldn’t agree more.
Right on Adam - “Effing’ Win”, or at the very friggin’ least “Lose Better” for the love of Austin!
Here we go
51:00 i actually watch those ads there awesome ha now we need zoom in on the cards
Yes steve the structure of the tweet is crucial to this LOL
"Going to Mannville" threw me off so hard at the start. It's a little village in Alberta (hometown of Kyle Calder and Mike Rathje btw)
❤ @ 1:11:40 Adam blows a gasket and I loved that raw emotion for the rest of this segment
Loving all the mutual acknowledgment of refs being brutal, but came up short with calling out the B's flops that definitely happened, but ignoring the Bertuzzi middle of ice trip being an enormous flop, tapped his skate and he dove it. Gamesmanship, but your blue is showing fellas
54:39
😂😂 I can’t lol
When Adam mentions multiple sports.... boxing and reflecting on boxer punching himself in the head, and I remember Blue Jays pitcher a sports analogy regarding hockey.
He's down because he lost his stick!!! That's the right play. It was a great shot
Tim Hortons CEO "how do we make useless hockey cards, but on the cheap?" - Tim Hortons marketing "why don't we put 2 guys on a card, so we don't have to print as many cards?"
I agree with Adam about the fans not being too vocal vs platinum seats being all corporate. But to be fair I have also been to a preseason game in MTL that had more vibe and action than a Saturday jight game in Toronto. Its also a culture thing. Go see s rock show in Montreal as opposed to Toronto. Totally different ball game
Love what you said, Steve, at like 22 min in
The power play needs to be better but bertuzzi and Tavares both have to score when they get those point blank chances
On the subject of changing songs that introduce the team, I've always felt like one of the best buildup/anticipation songs for that would be Dream Theater's Metropolis Part I, which has an absolutely perfect timing for a team to start charging onto the ice surface
It always amazes me how this teams pp doesnt set up matthews for one-timers with the laser of a shot he has. Also, they create little to no chaos in front of the goalie. No reason this pp should be as stale as it is, with how stacked the units are.
I just want to say thank you to Jesse for advocating to keep samsonov in for game 4.
VGK have a show and it feels like a night club in the arena all night. It’s not that hard to figure out how to change the atmosphere.
PP problem, here's a willy cure.
As a NYR fan, Adam is 100% right. New York City has its hockey fans but hockey is almost certainly behind baseball and basketball and arguably football
4:39 I have commented this before and Producer Drew will hate me for it but I have attended 3 Colorado Avs games over the last two seasons and the Avalanche have lost all 3 games and I was even cheering for them to beat Florida in January but they lost 8-4 in that game. Luckily I got to see Toronto win twice with Auston getting a hat trick in February!!🎉🎉😊😊
The Panarin hit was called a major, reviewed, and reverted to no penalty.... so take that for what it's worth.
As a Rangers fan, I appreciate Jesse repping the team. Also, as an American - What is Boston Pizza? This sounds like they are a restaurant that serves the most random mish-mash of things like Cheesecake Factory or Applebees. Just pick a thing and stick with it. Also, speaking of fishbowls, there is a Mexican restaurant in my college town that used to serve margaritas in actual fishbowls on Cinco de Mayo
1:41:28 Steve sounds like a guy who is going to pay a visit on the refs home 😅 "And the address is..."
I legit lived in a small town called Mannville, my k-12 school had 300 ppl maybe. My grade 12 class 6 years later in Red Deer had 420. I chuckled during the BP promo
Playing "Enter Sandman" in 2024 is very much your dad's Leafs. That song was released in 1991.
Hey guys love the show as always. Since you've been talking about video game in bonus episodes, please talk about the Escape from Tarkov situation. It is so ridiculous.
Talk about the leafs getting E-Rekt by the bruins on the power play.
Yes, this comment was purely to poke fun at the title of this episode.
When talking about Verhaeghe being the most clutch player in overtime... Tkachuk has 3 ot playoff goals in 7 games played which is insane as well, if there is a team you dont want to see in OT it is the Panthers
By my quick calculations, in the last 10 regular season games played, Woll is an .890 and Sammy is .888. Why is Sammy guaranteed the net?
Ironically, because this is the first time that the Bruins are "beatable" (which i agree with), we'll lose to them in 5 in typical Leafs fashion.
Everyone needs to see the dive by swayman can’t believe ppl bought it
1:11:36 Adam’s reaction here is me watching the LA Kings against Edmonton
We only need 6 chirps my friend they all work way too well.
Canda has plenty of cups! 😂The habs have all of them
When Tavares was a little younger and there was that playoff game against the Bruins in 2019, when it turned into Rollerball meets the Road Warrior officiating, the only Leafs not giving up a lot physically were Marleau and Tavares, before Khadri lost his mind and got suspended. They missed the playoffs in the Bubble and then the next year in game 1 in the North Division, Tavares took a header into Corey Perry's knee. At 33, someone else probably needs to be the tough skilled guy.
I find it exhausting listening to a eulogy of a team that hasn’t lost the series yet. I totally understand the exhaustion and frustration with the team, but I don’t tune in for a discussion like this when the team is down 2-1 and could go on to win the series still.
Did you guys talk about the hit hyman had on danault? HUGE. Jumped out of my chair
Adam is bang on (regarding not trusting the team and their track record of blowing it). I stopped watching games a couple of years ago. I just got sick and tired of spending 3 hours watching a game, being all happy, only to see them lose to AZ or blow a lead and lose the game Columbus. I don't even watch playoff games anymore. Too stressful and they always find a way to lose. The last time I watched was the TOR/MTL series during COVID. They were gifted a possible seat in the final 4 and despite being up 3-1 to MTL, just found ways to blow each game and the series. It was at that point I was done. I said during the off season to trade Nylander at his peak value and get better help in goal and on the blue line. They refused to move on from the core, which has shown is incapable of doing it. It's not the right mix, too many cooks in the kitchen. The team should be built around Austin and Marner. I would have traded Nylander and looked for a way to move Tavares to free up cap space for quality blue line help and hopefully a more stable goalie. They too top heavy and too easy to shut down. This is the "grittiest" they've been in years, which helps, their blue line and goaltending is not "cup worthy". They are wasting the prime years of their core players right now.
Marchand is a left handed shot. From the pucks perspective the near side has less opening than far side. You dont hug the post when the puck is in that area.
The sooner Keefe is gone the better. would hate to see marner or nylander go but it may be inevitable. We need defence and goaltending!
You can call Swayman falling a dive, but I honestly think that he meant so spin a little and fell down by accident and was too embarrassed to get mad lol
Also if u can call that a dive then Bertuzzi surely dove to try and draw a call on Marchand when Freddie scored
4:31 I doubt it is you, considering how many home losses they have had.
28:46 For some reason, my memory remembers rookie Rielly actually shooting a lot more? Or am I miss remembering?
58:34 Matt Murray!
1:04:03 … new coach?
My wife and I were at the leafs game against the Coyotes in February. I was in the lower bowl (corporate section) because it was a 30th birthday present. While at the game the seats all around me were all talking about work. Clearly the organization needs to prioritize those seats for more fans. My wife and I were the loudest in our section for sure.