For me episode 7 was definitely my favorite. I loved Hela in Ragnarök and wished we'd gotten to see something of a redemption arc for her. Hela cracked quite a few jokes in the movie so I don't think it was a combo of her brothers in this episode. LOVED that Cate Blanchett came back to voice Hela as it would have not been the same with a different voice actor.
I think the writers can easily make Shang chi and Xialing still born! Just said in that timeline they had secret half asgardians siblings. Wenwu secretly cheat on Hela… Or they got a divorced…better that.
It was way too much this season, I was just reminded of her death in multiverse of madness. Was wondering if that was the same peggy, if she’s doomed to die at wandas hands. :/
To huge focus on Peggy along with her power up and relationship with Steve annoyed me. But loved Kahhori and her story. Wish she was more of the focus this season.
Yea idk why she became the mascot of What If either. For 2 seasons that is. A super soldier is not even supposed to be that powerful. Why is everyone on the multiverse looking for her help 😂. Wanda is literally right there.
What If this helps her find more fans since we don't know her that well? I for one would have fallen asleep if they centered Steve once again. I think people who react negatively to her are a small crowd
Why is Sam Wilson nowhere to be found? It's getting ridiculous that in two seasons, he's only been there for 20 seconds as a zombie. He's the only Cap character not included. The disrespect is real.
@budgiecat9039 I didn't mean Cap as in the mantle itself, I meant Cap as in the sub-franchise. CATFA, CATWS, CACW. Sam is a prominent Cap character, but he's the only one not included in this show, even as they rip-off the CATWS plot. Or the 1602 episode - Scott got recruited into Civil War by Sam, but Scott's in that episode and not Sam. His total absence from the whole show is just weird.
Kahhori G'iah M-SHE-U isn't content with the actual female comic book characters they have to make up new ones now 😂😂 I swear I thought Echo was made up at first since I never heard of her before prior to her reveal. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel 😂
So glad you picked episode 5 as well. By far and away my favourite as a Black Widow fan… and the screencap you had of Natasha fighting her “sisters” was perfect!
That's not entirely true. Bill Foster, created by Stan Lee & Don Heck, (and his "Black Goliath" powers created later by Tony Isabella & George Tuska), was introduced first as "Bill Foster" in the comics in Avengers # 32, released in Sept 1966 Then he was given the mantle of "Black Goliath" in issue # 24 of Luke Cage: Power Man, in April of 1975 Then his mantle was changed to "Giant-Man" in issue # 55 of Marvel Two-in-One in Sept 1979 Then his mantle name was changed again to "Goliath" in issue # 1 of The Thing Vol 2, released in January of 2006. So he was only known as "Black Goliath" for 4 years, while he was known prior just as Bill Foster, for 9 years, then he was known as "Giant-Man" for 27 YEARS, and finally, he's been simply known as "Goliath" for the past 15 years up to the year this season waa created in 2021, and now it's 18 years since we are now in the year 2024. So for the majority of his creation so far he was known as the second Giant-Man, and now he is known as the fourth Goliath even though his first hero name was "Black Goliath" albeit only for 4 years.
My favorite was 1602, followed closely by Kahhori and then 80's Avengers. I think 1602 would've been a good season finale, and they could've just teased evil Strange Supreme for season 3. Considering the gravity of what Strange Supreme was doing, and what was needed to stop him, the finale seemed a bit rushed. Also, two notes: 1. Thanos didn't accidentally snap himself- it was Killmonger who snapped him. 2. The universe that was colliding with the past in the 1602 episode just happened to have a Hulk Hogan in it as well. I didn't see any narrative flaws with the episode. Overall, I'm absolutely loving What If, and I hope they never stop making new seasons! 😁
Yes it was. More of her please. The last scene in Spain was great. Would love to see an Avengers Team with Kahhori, T'Challa, Shang Chi, Moon Knight, Namor, and Ms. Marvel.
I dont get the appeal of that episode at all, girl gets the power to do anything and effortlessly beats some guys with muskets who cant threaten her in any way? that's it?
@arobin6695 I do not mean to assume, but my guess is that you are not a part of an underrepresented group. Most that are, would understand the beauty of the episode. Showcasing a culture that was mostly wiped out by Europeans. Yes, she was more powerful than the Spanish, they didn't have powers. But the Spanish with their guns were more powerful than her people and kidnapped them. Did you get annoyed with their powerful guns too?
@arobin6695 But they did kidnap them. The Spanish came and burned their village, took her people from said village and put them on the ships against their will. Kahhori rescued them from the ships. That is kidnapping to me. Maybe your definition is different. 🤷🏾♂️ Happy New Year! 2024!
I think my only issue with the show is the pacing characters like odin change their mindset too quickly conpared to his main mcu counterpart. And with strange supreme it would of been better to see him manipulate peggy for more than a few seconds and maybe showcased his insidious nature, maybe have her fall for an illusion at first only to learn and break free later.
I think your criticism of the pacing says a lot about their concepts. You wanna see more lol. Of course their motivations will heel turn since they're working with seconds instead of minutes. But the fact that we want to see it fully fleshed out is the point of what if, it's how we stumble upon heroes like Miles or Kahhori and get them fully fleshed out or even spin off shows like Supreme Strange having a big following but not quite enough
First, the Tony Stark episode was supposed to be shown for Season 1, but got delayed for reasons that I do not know. In the final episode of Season 1, the Watcher states that Gamora is the "survivor of Sakaar and destroyer of Thanos". He was referring to that episode, so that is why the final scene is in the shot. Second, Thanos didn't "snap himself" out of existence, Killmonger did that.
I'll add that the Tezzerak "infected" (for lack of a better word) both Carol Danvers and Kohhori with its power. How that power manifests itself is determined by the individual. Carol Danvers and Kohhori are two different people with two different backgrounds. So naturally how they use their power is going to be two different things.
I think kahori was powered by the teseract itself, and Carol was powered by the engine made from energy from the teseract, so different powersets maybe?
Kahhori stole the show for me, although episode 4 was my personal favourite. Oh man, i was fist pumping and cheering! Took me right back to Iron Man 2 but elevated!
Thanos didn’t snap himself, Kill-monger snapped him. Also how could you rank episode 9 so low. It was one of the best episode of the season. Finally footage of season 3 was posted by Marvel, so it’s coming out “soon”.
episode 9 was trash, made no sense at all for Strange to summon Peggy and send her after someone she would obviously team up with when he could have just used the time stone and gotten her himself
I actually really liked the daily episode drops, felt like there's something too look forward to the next day. I think this strategy fits this show, not sure other shows like Loki for example would benefit from that.
I think Feige and the rest of the MCU creatives were just not ready for Wanda to become so popular... that's why there wasn't any existing outline of using her as the MCU continued.
Aside from the one week of discussion thing I liked having one per day. With the episodes being this short it's like a restaurant, you don't wanna wait fourty minutes for a portion this small. You either bring me something big or a bunch of little things every ten minutes.
For me, best episode was Kahhori. I’m from Puerto Rico, a small island in the Caribbean that was colonized by Spanish Conquistadors who then murdered all the natives. The episode really resonated with me and my cultures history and found it extremely empowering for all the groups in history who have experienced the same. It was wonderful. It gave such life and beauty to the history and cultures of natives
You got that virtue signalling already with Namor raceswap in Wakanda Forever Not to mention the Partition episode of Ms Marvel where the evil British colonizers separated the Pakistani from India
15:58 - I’d like to believe that the culture and the strong spirituality she has to that culture also shaped the power set. How the stone first connected to the land and environment THEN connected to the people that went into the lake. They talked about how she had wolf spirit in her and the other character had turtle. Loved it
And then they take down the colonizers by just running as a pack. I mean, good writing? No, great writing. Really simple, authentic, familiar and unique.
@@budgiecat9039 one hope for the world would be less comments/responses that don’t provide any substance to a conversation. Really dumbs down a person.
Hang on I actually like that since it'd be tucked away in what if instead of being a slog of a mirrored film. Season 3 what if the Scarlett Witch didn't go mad 👀
Marvel is failing because they have gold in their hands and they throw it away. An episode about Wanda is a no-brainer. But no. We get that awful Christmas episode
@@wanderingseth I don't want Wanda without the mutants established so I'm glad they're being patient for season 3. We already got her as a Necromancer so I'm happy. This gives precedent to do Empyre and plants vs zombies, explain that Wanda is the reason Dr Strange drinks, and so on. Darkhold Diaries is the perfect stepping stone into children's Crusade and whatnot
I wish they would extend the episodes to at least 45 minutes. It seems like they're cramming the story in, without time to marinate. Theyre using a lot of exposition in the intros, and youre basically getting the third act 😂
Fun facts: Episode 5 continues directly from the tease at the end of What If season one and episode 4 was originally supposed to be a season one episode.
I don’t get your Peter Quill comment. He is the way he is due to his upbringing after being kidnapped. If that doesn’t happen then what would he have been like.
Episode 5 was perfect for me, I’m a huge Captain Carter fan so I loved it!! The nods to Winter Soldier and the better version of Black Widow movie just made this even better! And I need to be honest, at several moments in the season the animation felt too cheap to me, even more when it came the final episodes and they did a small recap of season 1, the animation in comparison was crazy, this one had much more generic faces and easier animations, but I still liked it.
tbh getting sick of the facial animation style, I love how in Star Wars Visions you get different art styles to break up the monotony, every What If is nearly the same.
The Peggy - Natasha episode is definitely my favorite. The dolls like Peggy said look like they come right out of a horror movie. Plus the town reminds me very much of WestView.
You also wondered why Kahhori seems more powerful than captain Marvel. I don’t think technically that’s the case. I think it’s more down to control over the power. We see this midway through the Kahhori episode when she shows she’s better at using her powers than the others. It basically shows if you give a power to someone don’t always expect them to the best at wielding it. Perhaps Carol just hasn’t got the same level of control of her powers and isn’t using them to their full potential. All of the other people who also had the same powers as Kahorri were nowhere near as good at using those powers as Kahorri was. Kahorri may just be a genius in terms of her understanding and being able to use and control her powers .
I loved the Loki tease at the end. First time in a while Marvel get my hopes up on what could be a cool tie in. Do I think they’ll be able to pull it off. Probably not, but I can be a little hopeful.
My Ranking: 1. Kahhori Reshaped The World (I didn't like how fast they were talking, but as a Native American, it was so exciting to see representation. The visuals were amazing and the story being basically powered up Pocahontas was still great.) 2. Strange Supreme Intervened (the visuals and Kahhori being in this, plus visiting all of the villians again was so fun. D.S. became Scarlett Witch in D.S. 2 but is forgiven, it doesnt seem fair.) 3. The Avengers Assembled In 1602 (Wanda) lol 4. Captain Carter Fought The Hydra Stomper 5. Hela Found The Ten Rings 6. Happy Hogan Saved Christmas (Loved Darcy, but I haven't seen Die Hart so I have no connection) 7. ron Man Crashed Into The Grandmaster (I thought it was supposed to be a Gamora episode, and i agree with the voice and animation for her was off.) 8. Nebula Joined The Nova Corps (I was on my phone for this episode) 9. Peter Quill Attacked Earth's Mighest Heroes
The ending of episode 4 ties into the season 1 finale where Gamora was in Thanos’ armor as part of the Guardians of the Multiverse That was supposed to be a season 1 episode but got pushed into season 2 cause of covid
In my mind this is actually consistent. Both Captain Marvel and Wanda got powered by singular infinity stones and yet they were basically the only mortal people who could take on Thanos directly.
she didn't defeat anyone, she teleported Killmonger out of the Infinity Ultron armor, and Thanos didn't snap himself as Grace said, Killmonger snapped Thanos away
I think Captain Carter having all those weapons at the end was cool and showed how powerful strange supreme was. Also, most of the episodes didn’t connect to each other so it would be fine to miss one and catch it later or skip it.
I just binged the last 6 episodes. Not enough in each to watch daily. The finale was weak in my opinion. They should move away from the connectedness and have each episode a one off. Peggy Carter doesn’t really work for me either. MORE WANDA & more Wakanda.
FOUR out of nine episodes are Captain Carter focused---WAY too much! Would have been fine with just the Hydra Stomper episode, agreed that was the best, followed by the Blade Runner and Die Hard episodes. And start differentiating between the various magical items and all the various all powerful characters beyond just firing different color energy blasts and simply standing there glowing, at this point it's all the same
Yes been waiting for this!!! Happy New Year guys!! Still think the episodes should have been a bit longer. The 1602 was my favorite episode making miss what the MCU use to be. Need more Wanda😍❤️and Hela. Agree episode 2 was my least favorite episode. The hydrastomper was my second my favorite episode. Overall enjoyed this season more than season 1. Rewatching Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War after seeing this season haha
EP 6 was the best one. Loved it mostly because I have no idea if this is based on an existing character. I loved the concept of a What If which isn’t “how hero X would be in situation Y” and instead goes with “how things might be affected because of heroes actions”
Can I just say I really don’t like Kahori? I kinda expected her to be the villain, and it would’ve been great to see the entire team together again to fight her and the people with Tesseract magic. But no. Strange Supreme is white and Kahori’s a girl, so Strange Supreme is the villain while Kahori helps turn Captain Carter into a Mary Sue
Gamorra still hasn’t had a sequence demonstrating how she’s the most dangerous woman in the universe. Zoe STILL has been short changed there and for NO reason. They gave her an AMAZING sequence in avatar that put Neytiri above ANY female in the MCU. Zoe deserved a sequence like that in the MCU.
The worst thing about this season was not understanding how to use their powers. Like she is a speedster adn calling out warnings instead of speeding to move Peggy. Also all of the infinity stones and they don't use then right.
Kahhori seems to be more powerful than Captain Marvel because she got her powers directly from the broken Tesseract with the space stone exposed while Captain Marvel got her powers from another power source that is base on or powered by the Tesseract/space stone....I've enjoyed Kahhori and 1602 epd the most....lots of real world references...."HUZZAH!"....
Kahhori and Carol have very different origins. The power comes ultimately from the Space Stone, but Carol got her's indirectly from a Lightspeed Engine made from the stone, while Kahhori's came much more directly, from a dimension that had infinity energy leaking into it for centuries from a damaged Space Stone.
I was really into the daily release schedule. I fell behind one day (day 4-5), and watched both to catch up. I liked Kahhori the most, which is saying a lot because I enjoyed all of the episodes - not really thinking any were particularly poor. IDK if I could pick a weakest, but am fine with your choice, I guess.
Release schedule at first I was really excited for and thought would be great and a lot of fun but after waking up daily to watch new episodes… I wasn’t a fan tbh. As for the season itself, I thought it was pretty good! The animation looked way better then it did in season 1 and I felt the what if scenarios felt a lot better compared to season 1 also. The quality too of the show also felt stepped up. Hope season 3 is even better! Looking forward to it…
To be honest. The last 2 episodes turned me off with the focus on Peggy Carter. I have no idea why they went in that direction. They made all the original Avengers look like fools and the new characters are constantly upshowing the Veteraned characters, it leaves a really bad taste in your mouth. How did two randos kick the crap out of multiple “Universe Killers” armed with Vibranium and Infinity Stones? Absolutely preposterous. Peggy Carter was uninteresting and she looked absolutely terrible in that armor with those weapons. I mean… terrible.
All really good episodes but my weakest 4 episodes were: Episode 2 (peter quill - weak plot plus his escape was lazy writing) Episode 6 (kahhori, mainly because i don't understand her powers and it was a generic voyage and return plot that's been played out to many times ) Episode 1 (nebula - good episode but the plot was a bit weak compared to the others high up) Episode 3 (happy hogan - good episode but the plot was a bit weak compared to the others high up).
I think the release strategy worked great as a Christmas treat, but is perhaps otherwise unnecessary, reserved for the odd special occasion. The core strategy should remain weekly.
Grace, I think the Infinity Stones affected people differently. I draw it back to Wanda and Pietro. Both were powered by the Mind Stone & Quicksilver was a speedster.
It felt like we missed a couple of episodes before the finale... Luke, how did Kahhori learn all about the Forge and Strange's plan? .How/ when did she develop such a mastery of her powers???
My interpretation was that she got Strange to say too much since he assumed he'd be able to easily kill her. They then start to battle, and what better way to learn than from real world practice?
@@recodatruth8860 "Show, not tell" ..In this case,.they didn't even tell, which makes it worse. Leaving it up to the audiences interpretation is TERRIBLE WRITING in this case bud.
If you are working with a multiverse there is no need for explaination. There is no definite time when Strange catches her. She could be on the run for decades. Time makes no sense in this context. 😊
What If Captain Carter Fought the Hydra-Stomper is overall MCU top five. Loved every single thing about it and it makes What If a true addition to the overall MCU and not just an Elseworld's story.
I suppose I’m in the minority for Kahori. I really don’t like her character. She’s to OP way to fast for almost no reason, I feel no tension/not worried. Same for Peggy, I like her but not sure why she was so central. I guess cause she doesn’t really have Roger’s charm.
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The Tony Stark/Gamora episode was originally supposed to be in Season 1, and I'm pretty sure it was Killmonger who snapped Thanos out of existence.
Yes I had to watch it a few times to confirm what happened there.
Thanos didn't snap himself. Killmonger snapped him.
I came here to say this lol
For me episode 7 was definitely my favorite. I loved Hela in Ragnarök and wished we'd gotten to see something of a redemption arc for her. Hela cracked quite a few jokes in the movie so I don't think it was a combo of her brothers in this episode. LOVED that Cate Blanchett came back to voice Hela as it would have not been the same with a different voice actor.
I think she's way more witty than either of them lol
I hope we get hela back in the MCU
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The best episode by far
I think the writers can easily make Shang chi and Xialing still born! Just said in that timeline they had secret half asgardians siblings.
Wenwu secretly cheat on Hela…
Or they got a divorced…better that.
Just don't understand the focus on peggy carter. She doesn't even have a strong fan interest for all that push from marvel.
It was way too much this season, I was just reminded of her death in multiverse of madness. Was wondering if that was the same peggy, if she’s doomed to die at wandas hands. :/
To huge focus on Peggy along with her power up and relationship with Steve annoyed me. But loved Kahhori and her story. Wish she was more of the focus this season.
Yea idk why she became the mascot of What If either. For 2 seasons that is. A super soldier is not even supposed to be that powerful. Why is everyone on the multiverse looking for her help 😂. Wanda is literally right there.
I don't get the Peggy push either!
What If this helps her find more fans since we don't know her that well? I for one would have fallen asleep if they centered Steve once again.
I think people who react negatively to her are a small crowd
My top 3 were
1. Hela found ten rings?
2. Kahhori reshaped the world?
3. Happy Hogan saved Christmas?
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Why is Sam Wilson nowhere to be found? It's getting ridiculous that in two seasons, he's only been there for 20 seconds as a zombie. He's the only Cap character not included. The disrespect is real.
Pretty sure Bucky Was Cap once too in the comics but yeah.
White woman > black man
@budgiecat9039 I didn't mean Cap as in the mantle itself, I meant Cap as in the sub-franchise. CATFA, CATWS, CACW. Sam is a prominent Cap character, but he's the only one not included in this show, even as they rip-off the CATWS plot. Or the 1602 episode - Scott got recruited into Civil War by Sam, but Scott's in that episode and not Sam. His total absence from the whole show is just weird.
Everybody likes Kahhori so much, I'm sure her solo movie will do great!...
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M-SHE-U isn't content with the actual female comic book characters they have to make up new ones now 😂😂
I swear I thought Echo was made up at first since I never heard of her before prior to her reveal. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel 😂
From what I’ve seen, most people rank the 80’s episode quite high. I’m surprised Grace thinks it’s the weakest.
From what I've seen it's the opposite. The way the 3rd act just wrapped up way too fast. Captain marvel just being there but doing nothing.
So glad you picked episode 5 as well. By far and away my favourite as a Black Widow fan… and the screencap you had of Natasha fighting her “sisters” was perfect!
Loved the release schedule. Don't have to wait weekly for next episode.
I can see it sucking for content creators
I agree 😊
Thanos didn't snap himself out of existence. Killmonger snapped him. They both had all the stones since they're from different universes.
I loved the release strategy!
It’s a perfect combination of binge and wait.
Bill Foster’s hero name was “Black Goliath,” not Giant Man.
That's not entirely true. Bill Foster, created by Stan Lee & Don Heck, (and his "Black Goliath" powers created later by Tony Isabella & George Tuska), was introduced first as "Bill Foster" in the comics in Avengers # 32, released in Sept 1966
Then he was given the mantle of "Black Goliath" in issue # 24 of Luke Cage: Power Man, in April of 1975
Then his mantle was changed to "Giant-Man" in issue # 55 of Marvel Two-in-One in Sept 1979
Then his mantle name was changed again to "Goliath" in issue # 1 of The Thing Vol 2, released in January of 2006.
So he was only known as "Black Goliath" for 4 years, while he was known prior just as Bill Foster, for 9 years, then he was known as "Giant-Man" for 27 YEARS, and finally, he's been simply known as "Goliath" for the past 15 years up to the year this season waa created in 2021, and now it's 18 years since we are now in the year 2024.
So for the majority of his creation so far he was known as the second Giant-Man, and now he is known as the fourth Goliath even though his first hero name was "Black Goliath" albeit only for 4 years.
My favorite was 1602, followed closely by Kahhori and then 80's Avengers. I think 1602 would've been a good season finale, and they could've just teased evil Strange Supreme for season 3. Considering the gravity of what Strange Supreme was doing, and what was needed to stop him, the finale seemed a bit rushed.
Also, two notes:
1. Thanos didn't accidentally snap himself- it was Killmonger who snapped him.
2. The universe that was colliding with the past in the 1602 episode just happened to have a Hulk Hogan in it as well. I didn't see any narrative flaws with the episode.
Overall, I'm absolutely loving What If, and I hope they never stop making new seasons! 😁
Kahori episode was so beautiful
Yes it was. More of her please. The last scene in Spain was great. Would love to see an Avengers Team with Kahhori, T'Challa, Shang Chi, Moon Knight, Namor, and Ms. Marvel.
I dont get the appeal of that episode at all, girl gets the power to do anything and effortlessly beats some guys with muskets who cant threaten her in any way? that's it?
@arobin6695 I do not mean to assume, but my guess is that you are not a part of an underrepresented group. Most that are, would understand the beauty of the episode. Showcasing a culture that was mostly wiped out by Europeans.
Yes, she was more powerful than the Spanish, they didn't have powers. But the Spanish with their guns were more powerful than her people and kidnapped them. Did you get annoyed with their powerful guns too?
@@MrHill-Jodeco they didnt kidnap anyone because she stopped them with her powers. easily.
@arobin6695 But they did kidnap them. The Spanish came and burned their village, took her people from said village and put them on the ships against their will. Kahhori rescued them from the ships. That is kidnapping to me. Maybe your definition is different. 🤷🏾♂️
Happy New Year! 2024!
Thanos didn't snap himself out of existence. That was done by Killmonger.
I think my only issue with the show is the pacing characters like odin change their mindset too quickly conpared to his main mcu counterpart. And with strange supreme it would of been better to see him manipulate peggy for more than a few seconds and maybe showcased his insidious nature, maybe have her fall for an illusion at first only to learn and break free later.
I think your criticism of the pacing says a lot about their concepts. You wanna see more lol. Of course their motivations will heel turn since they're working with seconds instead of minutes. But the fact that we want to see it fully fleshed out is the point of what if, it's how we stumble upon heroes like Miles or Kahhori and get them fully fleshed out or even spin off shows like Supreme Strange having a big following but not quite enough
First, the Tony Stark episode was supposed to be shown for Season 1, but got delayed for reasons that I do not know. In the final episode of Season 1, the Watcher states that Gamora is the "survivor of Sakaar and destroyer of Thanos". He was referring to that episode, so that is why the final scene is in the shot.
Second, Thanos didn't "snap himself" out of existence, Killmonger did that.
I'll add that the Tezzerak "infected" (for lack of a better word) both Carol Danvers and Kohhori with its power. How that power manifests itself is determined by the individual. Carol Danvers and Kohhori are two different people with two different backgrounds. So naturally how they use their power is going to be two different things.
@@Kmac005*Tesseract. ..and just call it the Space Stone we all know what it is by now it's no longer 2012 😂
@@budgiecat9039 Thank you, Spell Thanos ;)
I loved the drop schedule. I watched each one at 5 AM every morning when I got up.
I think kahori was powered by the teseract itself, and Carol was powered by the engine made from energy from the teseract, so different powersets maybe?
Its all contrived BS no point in trying to wrap your head around the lack of logic 😂
Kahhori stole the show for me, although episode 4 was my personal favourite. Oh man, i was fist pumping and cheering! Took me right back to Iron Man 2 but elevated!
Most definitely ❤
Thanos didn’t snap himself, Kill-monger snapped him. Also how could you rank episode 9 so low. It was one of the best episode of the season.
Finally footage of season 3 was posted by Marvel, so it’s coming out “soon”.
episode 9 was trash, made no sense at all for Strange to summon Peggy and send her after someone she would obviously team up with when he could have just used the time stone and gotten her himself
@@arobin6695 the way i saw it
it was good strange doing this because he knew peggy would stop him or bring him back some how
Soon is December again
I actually really liked the daily episode drops, felt like there's something too look forward to the next day. I think this strategy fits this show, not sure other shows like Loki for example would benefit from that.
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I think Feige and the rest of the MCU creatives were just not ready for Wanda to become so popular... that's why there wasn't any existing outline of using her as the MCU continued.
Aside from the one week of discussion thing I liked having one per day. With the episodes being this short it's like a restaurant, you don't wanna wait fourty minutes for a portion this small. You either bring me something big or a bunch of little things every ten minutes.
13:06 given we see the Loki tree at the end of the season the tva pruning beached timeline is no longer what they do
For me, best episode was Kahhori.
I’m from Puerto Rico, a small island in the Caribbean that was colonized by Spanish Conquistadors who then murdered all the natives.
The episode really resonated with me and my cultures history and found it extremely empowering for all the groups in history who have experienced the same. It was wonderful. It gave such life and beauty to the history and cultures of natives
You got that virtue signalling already with Namor raceswap in Wakanda Forever
Not to mention the Partition episode of Ms Marvel where the evil British colonizers separated the Pakistani from India
What if season 2 : THE rise of the M.She.U
15:58 - I’d like to believe that the culture and the strong spirituality she has to that culture also shaped the power set. How the stone first connected to the land and environment THEN connected to the people that went into the lake. They talked about how she had wolf spirit in her and the other character had turtle. Loved it
And then they take down the colonizers by just running as a pack. I mean, good writing? No, great writing. Really simple, authentic, familiar and unique.
Oh for fucks sake 😂
@@budgiecat9039 one hope for the world would be less comments/responses that don’t provide any substance to a conversation. Really dumbs down a person.
It should've been Wanda teaming up with Kahhori instead of Captain Carter to fight Supreme Strange for a twisted reversal of Multiverse of Madness.
Hang on I actually like that since it'd be tucked away in what if instead of being a slog of a mirrored film. Season 3 what if the Scarlett Witch didn't go mad 👀
This season was really good the only thing that was missing was more Wanda
Marvel is failing because they have gold in their hands and they throw it away. An episode about Wanda is a no-brainer. But no. We get that awful Christmas episode
More hulk for me . The disrespect towards hulk is unforgivable in the mcu
Agreed
More Thor!!
@@wanderingseth I don't want Wanda without the mutants established so I'm glad they're being patient for season 3. We already got her as a Necromancer so I'm happy. This gives precedent to do Empyre and plants vs zombies, explain that Wanda is the reason Dr Strange drinks, and so on. Darkhold Diaries is the perfect stepping stone into children's Crusade and whatnot
Cheers!
Happy New Year - and thank you! :)
Happy New Year Grace ❤ I've only seen the Christmas episode so far, watched it three times, it was fantastic
I wish they would extend the episodes to at least 45 minutes. It seems like they're cramming the story in, without time to marinate. Theyre using a lot of exposition in the intros, and youre basically getting the third act 😂
Hi Grace, will you review Percy Jackson? Happy New Year to you and your family and loved ones!!
Fun facts: Episode 5 continues directly from the tease at the end of What If season one and episode 4 was originally supposed to be a season one episode.
I kind of lost track of days due to being home for the holidays but binged last minute!
I don’t get your Peter Quill comment. He is the way he is due to his upbringing after being kidnapped. If that doesn’t happen then what would he have been like.
I still have 5 episodes to watch😭
I honestly don’t know if I’ll finish them
Episode 5 was perfect for me, I’m a huge Captain Carter fan so I loved it!! The nods to Winter Soldier and the better version of Black Widow movie just made this even better! And I need to be honest, at several moments in the season the animation felt too cheap to me, even more when it came the final episodes and they did a small recap of season 1, the animation in comparison was crazy, this one had much more generic faces and easier animations, but I still liked it.
tbh getting sick of the facial animation style, I love how in Star Wars Visions you get different art styles to break up the monotony, every What If is nearly the same.
took the words out of my mouth
@@BussinandDiscussinbecause they used different studios. Marvel is being....cheap?
I can't believe I'm saying this... But I agree with Grace! 🤯
The Peggy - Natasha episode is definitely my favorite. The dolls like Peggy said look like they come right out of a horror movie. Plus the town reminds me very much of WestView.
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I watched every episode as they were released and now I'll go back and watch all of them again.
The Kahhori episode was my favorite
I have the same on my list. Episode two was my wife’s favorite she is part of the first people and I am part Spanish.
You also wondered why Kahhori seems more powerful than captain Marvel. I don’t think technically that’s the case. I think it’s more down to control over the power. We see this midway through the Kahhori episode when she shows she’s better at using her powers than the others. It basically shows if you give a power to someone don’t always expect them to the best at wielding it. Perhaps Carol just hasn’t got the same level of control of her powers and isn’t using them to their full potential. All of the other people who also had the same powers as Kahorri were nowhere near as good at using those powers as Kahorri was. Kahorri may just be a genius in terms of her understanding and being able to use and control her powers .
I agree, episode 5 was the best! I'd love to see an episode of "what if captain america would sign the Sokovia accords"? could be very interesting
I loved the Loki tease at the end. First time in a while Marvel get my hopes up on what could be a cool tie in. Do I think they’ll be able to pull it off. Probably not, but I can be a little hopeful.
YES!!❤
personal ranking:
1. 1602 (ep8)
2. Captain Carter (ep5)
3. hela (ep7)
4. nebula (ep1)
5. kahhori (ep6)
6. christmas episode (ep3)
7. iron man in sakaar (ep4)
8. 80s avengers (ep2)
9. strange supreme (ep9)
My Ranking:
1. Kahhori Reshaped The World (I didn't like how fast they were talking, but as a Native American, it was so exciting to see representation. The visuals were amazing and the story being basically powered up Pocahontas was still great.)
2. Strange Supreme Intervened (the visuals and Kahhori being in this, plus visiting all of the villians again was so fun. D.S. became Scarlett Witch in D.S. 2 but is forgiven, it doesnt seem fair.)
3. The Avengers Assembled In 1602 (Wanda) lol
4. Captain Carter Fought The Hydra Stomper
5. Hela Found The Ten Rings
6. Happy Hogan Saved Christmas (Loved Darcy, but I haven't seen Die Hart so I have no connection)
7. ron Man Crashed Into The Grandmaster
(I thought it was supposed to be a Gamora episode, and i agree with the voice and animation for her was off.)
8. Nebula Joined The Nova Corps (I was on my phone for this episode)
9. Peter Quill Attacked Earth's Mighest Heroes
Episode 9 was my favorite loved the strange supreme storyline so tragic he just couldn’t quit trying to being Christine back
they just repeated his story from his episode in season 1 because they needed a man for Carter and the native lady to beat up
@@arobin6695native lady is all you needed to say to see where u coming from…
@@JayJayslayfey its a new character with one appearance before this and a hard to remember name
@@arobin6695Kahori really isn't hard to remember
@@WolfanTerror i didnt watch her episode
So happy a 3rd season is coming. 😍
By far my favorite was episode # 6. Watched it several times
I'd be curious to know the tea behind some OG actors coming to reprise their characters and others having to be replaced by (kinda) soundalikes.
Hi Grace, love your videos, I believe it's pronounced Kahor-ti although it is spelled without the T. I thought it was interesting
I loved dropping an episode every day. I didn't want to wait a week or have to binge
It was awesome!❤
The ending of episode 4 ties into the season 1 finale where Gamora was in Thanos’ armor as part of the Guardians of the Multiverse
That was supposed to be a season 1 episode but got pushed into season 2 cause of covid
Kahhori got her power from the tesseract but she can easily defeat someone with all the infinity stones 🙃
In my mind this is actually consistent. Both Captain Marvel and Wanda got powered by singular infinity stones and yet they were basically the only mortal people who could take on Thanos directly.
she didn't defeat anyone, she teleported Killmonger out of the Infinity Ultron armor, and Thanos didn't snap himself as Grace said, Killmonger snapped Thanos away
I found my self missing an episode and skimming through them it was a lot to keep up with. I might go back and bing them all.
I think Captain Carter having all those weapons at the end was cool and showed how powerful strange supreme was. Also, most of the episodes didn’t connect to each other so it would be fine to miss one and catch it later or skip it.
And I thought it showed how clever the other characters were to throw their weapons to her.
Why does everyone use one stone at a time? Everyone uses the power stone when reality stone can change reality!
Happy new year Grace. I loved the daily released.
I just binged the last 6 episodes. Not enough in each to watch daily. The finale was weak in my opinion. They should move away from the connectedness and have each episode a one off. Peggy Carter doesn’t really work for me either. MORE WANDA & more Wakanda.
FOUR out of nine episodes are Captain Carter focused---WAY too much! Would have been fine with just the Hydra Stomper episode, agreed that was the best, followed by the Blade Runner and Die Hard episodes. And start differentiating between the various magical items and all the various all powerful characters beyond just firing different color energy blasts and simply standing there glowing, at this point it's all the same
Happy New Year's eve we all love you grace
Loved the daily drop.
Was out late the whole week and when I got home I could watch an episode then pass ou… fall asleep. 😁
What if... this show remembered Sam Wilson exists? 😭😭😭
C'mon Marvel! Give a Sam fan something!
Happy new year Grace🥂
great video
All I can say is Marvel need to stop trying to make Captain Carter happen, she's not going to happen
Especially if making her and the new character OP so fast
Again, great choices and thoughts!!! Loved this!!! I would LOVE to see What If... the Phoenix faught the Scarlet Witch??
Anyway, thanks again!
Happy new year!! 🎉
Yes been waiting for this!!! Happy New Year guys!! Still think the episodes should have been a bit longer. The 1602 was my favorite episode making miss what the MCU use to be. Need more Wanda😍❤️and Hela. Agree episode 2 was my least favorite episode. The hydrastomper was my second my favorite episode. Overall enjoyed this season more than season 1. Rewatching Captain America Winter Soldier and Civil War after seeing this season haha
HAPPY NEW YEAR ❤😊
EP 6 was the best one. Loved it mostly because I have no idea if this is based on an existing character. I loved the concept of a What If which isn’t “how hero X would be in situation Y” and instead goes with “how things might be affected because of heroes actions”
Can I just say I really don’t like Kahori? I kinda expected her to be the villain, and it would’ve been great to see the entire team together again to fight her and the people with Tesseract magic. But no. Strange Supreme is white and Kahori’s a girl, so Strange Supreme is the villain while Kahori helps turn Captain Carter into a Mary Sue
i feel like what if isn’t do as well cause people expected it to be mcu what ifs and not random what if story’s
Gamorra still hasn’t had a sequence demonstrating how she’s the most dangerous woman in the universe. Zoe STILL has been short changed there and for NO reason. They gave her an AMAZING sequence in avatar that put Neytiri above ANY female in the MCU. Zoe deserved a sequence like that in the MCU.
yeah… i think thats part of the reason zoe is done with the character but ur right there isnt ONE good fight scene which is sad
The worst thing about this season was not understanding how to use their powers. Like she is a speedster adn calling out warnings instead of speeding to move Peggy. Also all of the infinity stones and they don't use then right.
Kahhori seems to be more powerful than Captain Marvel because she got her powers directly from the broken Tesseract with the space stone exposed while Captain Marvel got her powers from another power source that is base on or powered by the Tesseract/space stone....I've enjoyed Kahhori and 1602 epd the most....lots of real world references...."HUZZAH!"....
Kahhori episode is the best... Made me feel things as an European on what was destroyed in the new world by us....
Kahhori and Carol have very different origins. The power comes ultimately from the Space Stone, but Carol got her's indirectly from a Lightspeed Engine made from the stone, while Kahhori's came much more directly, from a dimension that had infinity energy leaking into it for centuries from a damaged Space Stone.
the tesseract gave them both unlimited power cause they were near it.
@@arobin6695 Captain Marvel only got close to the Tesseract on the last act of her movie.
I was really into the daily release schedule. I fell behind one day (day 4-5), and watched both to catch up. I liked Kahhori the most, which is saying a lot because I enjoyed all of the episodes - not really thinking any were particularly poor. IDK if I could pick a weakest, but am fine with your choice, I guess.
I don't care for made up characters
Happy New Years Beautiful 🎉🥂🎉 may you hav many more
Thanos didn’t snap himself out of existence. Killmonger did.
Release schedule at first I was really excited for and thought would be great and a lot of fun but after waking up daily to watch new episodes… I wasn’t a fan tbh.
As for the season itself, I thought it was pretty good! The animation looked way better then it did in season 1 and I felt the what if scenarios felt a lot better compared to season 1 also. The quality too of the show also felt stepped up.
Hope season 3 is even better! Looking forward to it…
Huge fan of yours from Trinidad and Tobago. You explain things very wonderfully
Waited all of last week to binge all the episodes last night 😁
I'm not sure thanos snapped himself out of existence... I think it was kilmonger who did it
haha Grace needs to rewatch the epd again....she quick to jump
To be honest. The last 2 episodes turned me off with the focus on Peggy Carter. I have no idea why they went in that direction. They made all the original Avengers look like fools and the new characters are constantly upshowing the Veteraned characters, it leaves a really bad taste in your mouth. How did two randos kick the crap out of multiple “Universe Killers” armed with Vibranium and Infinity Stones? Absolutely preposterous. Peggy Carter was uninteresting and she looked absolutely terrible in that armor with those weapons. I mean… terrible.
All really good episodes but my weakest 4 episodes were:
Episode 2 (peter quill - weak plot plus his escape was lazy writing)
Episode 6 (kahhori, mainly because i don't understand her powers and it was a generic voyage and return plot that's been played out to many times )
Episode 1 (nebula - good episode but the plot was a bit weak compared to the others high up)
Episode 3 (happy hogan - good episode but the plot was a bit weak compared to the others high up).
I think the release strategy worked great as a Christmas treat, but is perhaps otherwise unnecessary, reserved for the odd special occasion. The core strategy should remain weekly.
Grace, I think the Infinity Stones affected people differently. I draw it back to Wanda and Pietro. Both were powered by the Mind Stone & Quicksilver was a speedster.
Does anyone think the Hela from episode 7 is also the Hela from the start of episode 8, thus linking the final 5 episodes together?
Hundred Percent, that’s why Happy still had Hulk powers, plus it made it much more interesting to have two hulks in the picture
No. I really don't think so. That makes no sense whatsoever
15:30 I think it's because Carol got her powers from the engine drive, and not the stone energy itself
So it was probably "processed" different
It felt like we missed a couple of episodes before the finale... Luke, how did Kahhori learn all about the Forge and Strange's plan? .How/ when did she develop such a mastery of her powers???
My interpretation was that she got Strange to say too much since he assumed he'd be able to easily kill her. They then start to battle, and what better way to learn than from real world practice?
Everything ain't meant to be shown..u don't have to have direct answers to everything. It's common sense
@@recodatruth8860 "Show, not tell" ..In this case,.they didn't even tell, which makes it worse. Leaving it up to the audiences interpretation is TERRIBLE WRITING in this case bud.
If you are working with a multiverse there is no need for explaination. There is no definite time when Strange catches her. She could be on the run for decades. Time makes no sense in this context. 😊
@@chris76465 facts
What If Captain Carter Fought the Hydra-Stomper is overall MCU top five. Loved every single thing about it and it makes What If a true addition to the overall MCU and not just an Elseworld's story.
Season 1 was better overall story. The focus on Peggy was alright story wise. I would have preferred a big team up at the end like season 1
I LOVED the daily aspect of it :D
and all of the Echo episodes at once? hell yesss
15:22 I really enjoy Kahhori's story coming from a native American perspective
I suppose I’m in the minority for Kahori. I really don’t like her character. She’s to OP way to fast for almost no reason, I feel no tension/not worried. Same for Peggy, I like her but not sure why she was so central. I guess cause she doesn’t really have Roger’s charm.