How to Produce Vibrato - OcTalk (Ocarina Tutorial)
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- In today's episode of #OcTalk, I cover a topic that has been requested for years, vibrato. The method I'm using can be used with many instruments, including singing. Check back every week for new episodes of OcTalk! ⬇LINKS⬇
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when you come here to learn how to do the vibrato trick but instead you watch a tutorial on how to breathe
Almost as if breathing has something to do with vibrato 🤯
being a choir vocalist, watching your videos make me happy
I naturally do vibratos, but as soon as I think about it, I have a bit of trouble going to do it again. So I try to play my ocarina and clean my mind 😊
This was actually very helpful , i know it sounds stupid but like a year ago i started feeling like i cant take a deep breath , then i started really focusing on my breathing and i never realized that breathing with upper portion was wrong , now that i started breathing "with my belly" it really feels like im back to normal .
So yeah this helped me a tremendous ammount not even doctors knew to tell me to breathe with my diaphragm
Your videos like this one are one of the reasons I love internet and the usefulness of it
I tried doing this while practicing ocarina yesterday, and it helped a lot... Thank you for creating such amazing/helpful videos
This is very well explained, I'm honestly impressed at the level of detail you gave us about how a Vibrato works.
I hope I can develop a Vibrato following your guide, would make a lot of songs sound a lot better!
As soon as you said " breath with your diaphragm" I said " I know where this is going lay on your back and get a book"
Wow, this was one of the things I have been wondering for a long time.
Also, with your help I got it right away. Thank you so much!
For anyone that it may apply to, such as martial artists or people who practice meditation, use your belly breathing. That's what he's talking about when he's saying breathe with your diaphragm. Use the same breathing that you were taught while you were learning your katas, or that you learned for your meditation. If you breathe shallowly, such as in chest breathing, you'll get light-headed and run out of air. For any of you martial artists, keep in mind, that many of the ancient Masters also learned a non-martial art of some type to round themselves out. I personally think that this is a wonderful art to learn in general. Learning an instrument, will help you to master yourself.
I did it!!!! *THANK YOU!*
Took several weeks of barely getting results every now and then and today.... boom!
I was about to give up. 😥
Now I'm wondering, where did you find the music? I found a couple of amazing grace sheets and tabs but they aren't very well done.
I am learning piano and I can use early pieces but I might have to modify and I'm not sure I can do that well. I'd rather get good ocarina music if I can find it.
And did I say THANK you?? I read and viewed and bought everything I could find about the subject but your tutorial is the only one (I found) that really deals with vibrato rather than modifying breathing. And while both can be useful, of course, this was what I wanted to learn.
it happens naturally? outstanding
KuraiMuin, It's very natural. I've been doing it for years on my cornet, but all this time I just thought my embrocher was getting messed up.
Some singers force vibrato and it’s dangerous ( I sing and my vibrato is faster and some people it’s wide sounding and slower it’s all about your voice)
@@dakotawilliams507 Hebsidnt say how do you actually produce the vibratp though?
I just started learning ocarina because of your videos. Didn’t realize what I learned in the school choir would help with my ocarina playing.
Thanks David! Glad you're back doing this :D
I'm so late to this video, but thank you all the same. In middle school I had the Choir teacher I was breathing wrong and that my stomach should not inflate; just my chest and back. I've played several instruments and never had a teacher tell me I was breathing incorrectly. Yes this does include the band teachers I've had. So thank you for explaining.
Wow! Perfectly explained and easy to understand and apply!
Thank you! Let me know how your progress goes!
Appreciate the in-depth tutorial, David. This sure is a challenge, even as a decently experienced player. I've always had to resort to diaphragmic vibrato (forced), but it definitely doesn't sound as good or natural. I've heard a lot of debate in the singing community that vibrato is something you have to be born with, and not something that can be learned if you don't have it already. Do you feel there's any truth to that? How long did it take you to master it?
I don't play the ocarina, but watching your videos always makes me want to. I'm just not able to purchase one at the moment, and even if I was, I would be anxious about picking the right one for me. Still, these videos are very informative, and listening to you play is a joy. Keep up the good work, David. :)
***** I actually ordered my first ocarina not long after posting this comment. I've had mine for around half a year now. But thanks anyway. :)
you good yet? :D Ordered mine and waiting for it to arrive
As a flute, our teacher actually taught us how to do it. I was never told it was naturally occurring, I was simply told to basically make a wave in my air flow. This is very fascinating to me. When I tried this technique with the Ocarina it didn't sound smooth, it sounded jagged and awful but with David showing me I can kinda hear it. It's exciting! Guess I got some practicing to do.
This helped alot! :D Thanks!
I didn't even know what Vibrato was prior to this video, but turns out I already had it XD. I thought it was just my lungs faltering from too much breathing or something, but i'm relieved to know it's natural and means healthy air flow.
That's awesome! Some people do just naturally have it :)
Zarkator Me too.
@@DavidErickRamos Hey David any tips on how it can come naturally to me more quickly and not so much of a struggle. Hope you can please respond.
Thanks. I've been playing an ocarina for almost 3 months (150hrs of play time) and noticed this morning that I appeared to have something like a vibrato starting to come in though I wasn't doing anything to cause it so just looked up how to do vibrato and found this :) , I must be just starting to get a natural vibrato.
thank you for the lesson David. I'm really enjoying watching: )
No problem Andrew, thanks for watching!
i swear i got an ocarina today and i was so confused on how to do the vibrato i saw this video and got the little flow in it right after practicing breathing i never knew breathing helped so much
Thank you David!
YES! Thank you SO much!!!
Wonderful tutorial on diaphragmatic breathing, and proper breathing technique for singing and playing wind instruments. Obviously key for producing a good vibrato effect. However, a little short on the actual vibrato part.
Well, David, Your vibrato is best ever!
Hi your really good at these tips
i love the tardis on the measure on the back wall :D
Awesome and helpful as always! keep it up man! :)
Thanks!! :)
My years of playing the French horn finally has a use!
I feel like vibrato and other little things like that that aren't really part of the instrument always have the tendency to come naturally after a while of playing and having a better understanding of what you're doing, and it should not be forced. As a guitar player, every time someone asks me how to better their vibrato or string bending etc. I just tell them to keep on playing!
Great lesson. I happen to love vibrato. I tried it and it sounded so cool. Thank you David. XOXOJane
You tutorial composition is great! :) I dont play Ocarina though.. but still entertaining to watch!
Have you ever considered doing vocal tutorials???
Still waiting for the "next week", when lesson 9 will come out :-(
The problem I have with vibrato is that I've played bassoon for 6 years, and we produce vibrato by the last method you listed, pusling the breath. The natural way simply does not do anything with how much space the air has to travel through. So I just have a much trickier time getting my brain to stop! I'm fine with the diaphragmatic breathing and the exersizes and all that though. Great lesson, it really is just down to practice!
I think forced vibrato can work fine for other wind instruments because of the amount of air necessary as you mentioned, but the ocarina being as sensitive to breath as it is, natural vibrato really has a more balanced sound. Keep working at it...it'll come eventually :)
I was genuinely shocked when you dropped the ocarina, they can break!
Much needed, as many in the oc community have a machine gun type of vibrato. :) I believe there is a little more to using the diaphragm than just breathing with it, such as developing the slight ha-ha-ha from the lower parts, it is still a very informative video. Good work!
IT'S HEREEEE YEAH!!
YEEEAAHH!! XD
So this is going to be helpful :D
David, if the vibrato comes naturally, how do you "control" when it happens? There can always be times where you want a long note without vibrato, how do you then not do vibrato? Or how to apply vibrato to a short note? I am learning ocarina myself and so far I use the pulsing breath (diaphragm) method that you also did in the video, because that way I can apply it when needed. Thanks for the video, hope you will reply! :)
Well, from what I've learned, is that vibrato usually haven't at the near end of your breath, so maybe if there some parts where you need a vibrato, limit the amount of air you suck in before playing those notes.
To remove vibrato on a note that otherwise would have vibrato, it's kind of like "holding your breath". That doesn't make much sense because you're blowing at the same time. But it's like you stop your air pressure early (a feeling in the chest), and then use only the air in your mouth.
This is after all why beginners aren't having vibrato, because they're usually using only the air in the mouth. They breathe, hold their breath, and then play.
You so cute!!! Thank you so much for the how to video!! I can’t wait to sound dope on the ocarina 😂
I've been playing flute for 5 years now, all my other flute friends can do vibrato but me. I'm hoping that these techniques will help me develop a vibrato. Thanks David for sharing these tips.
I used to play flute, but I still practice. I can only force my vibrato :,(
It's getting embarrassing for me, i'm the only first chair flute who can't do a vibrato.
It's ok everyone goes at their own pace :)
I suppose they do. Then again, only one of the first chair flutes can do a legit vibrato.
I'm putting all the ocarina tutorial in playlist...When I get a ocarina I'll rewatch all of it...And practice on the ocarina
Do You have an ocarina?
Did you get one?
I feel magic it happened as soon as I sat up properly
For a long time I wondered why my chest didn't move when I was breathing, terns out I naturaly use my diaphragm so that's step 2 down
me encantan tus videos! pero no puedo comprar una ocarina, no podrías hacer una gira o no se...algo para llegar a latinoamerica?
You have no idea how happy it made me to hear that "Amazing Grace" is one of your favorite songs! It's one of mine, too, and is one of the first songs I'll attempt to play when I try out a new instrument. :) Thanks a lot for this tutorial; I'll have to give it a try.
Can't get it to work... Thanks for your videos anyway, David. I really enjoy them and they help me alot.
It might take awhile, but don't give up! Give it a week or two and check up on it.
And then I realize, so just keep doing what my band teacher tells me to do? Yay! I can do that!
Hey David! do you have any tips for learning how to play by ear?
Nice idea to make a Tutorial to them
Wow I just got mine today and I love that song I bout cried when u played it him practice a lot to get good and watch lots of your videos lol
Is it normal that my Ocarina starts at E major instead of C major? (E major as in 2 whole steps higher than most ocarinas. and it has 12 holes.)
I wish there were channels as good as yours for other instruments!
What kind of tips are you looking for?
David Erick Ramos - Ocarina stuff for ukuleles, like which ones to buy for beginners, basically similar stuff you do on this channel.
Is it possible that it can't be made on a cheap ocarina or I just need more practice? i got a ceramic one.
David, could you please make a christmas song tutorial ?
hey in a vocalist that picked up the ocarina to (im a bass 2 what are you)
I can breathe with my diaphragm about halfway, but to fill my lungs all the way forces my chest and shoulders to rise and my stomach does not expand any more. it starts to hurt a bit too. is this normal? do I just have bad posture? (well, I know I have bad osture, but I'm working on that.) I also have had lung surgery and I have a staple in the top of my right lung. I had a lung collapse a few years ago.
So if i just continuesly breathe correctly in future, the vibrato sound will come automatically ?
do you have a channel for other intruments as well?
I put a cinderblock on my Bellly and now im dead...what do I do?
+Michael Sanchez Did you try turning yourself on and off again?
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@GingerWho9 ever heard of ghosts?
how can i learn yo play amazing grace on my ocarina
for some reason i can only produce vibrato for some notes... F# is easiest, Bb is easy, but the only notes i cant produce vibrato is E and C...tips?
So... David. Would it be easier to teach a person how to develop their appoggio and "sing" into the instrument without making tone? In that case the vocal folds are still vibrating at an intense rate. I'm an experienced vocalist and when I hear don't use your throat I wondering if that's targeted at someone who would physically try contracting the muscles in their throat versus allowing the tessitura of the voice take over. Or are you suggesting the air does it alone?
I naturally have always breathed with my diaphragm, and I've always been confused when books said that the person's chest rises and falls. Am I not normal?
I am also a classically trained singer and I have vibrato. However, I haven't really hit vibrato on my ocarina yet. Is this normal? Am I likely just overthinking it when I play ocarina?
+Brandon Vance I think it is just different and you may need a bit time. While singing, the vocal chords are part of the natural vibrato, the balance between diaphragm and vocal chords and articulation... All is part of your own body which you learned to control. With the ocarina the vocal chords of course stay open and the sound vibrates by the right balance between the diaphragm and the air-flow in and through the ocarina (which is then like an extension of the body). You can only control your own breathing and not the upper end. But I would say the "resistance/backflow/outflow" of the air in and through the ocarina helps to find the balance. I don't have vibrato often with the ocarina yet, but sometimes it suddenly comes naturally. I have been singing, too, and it feels different. (Not sure if my English is good for what I want to say)
Totally off topic, but I saw Totoro and Link in the background and started enthusiastically pumping my fist in the air. :p
I can vibrato on pretty much any brass instrument but I don't know how on ocarina
I'm a flautist, and i use throat staccato naturally. all of my peers use "gut puffs" and I've been told my form of vibrato is very advanced compared to the others in school.
I'm 8 months pregnant, do I have to put a weight on my baby ooorr does the baby count as weight enough on its own
hows the baby
LMAOOOO😂😂😳
Your baby is like 5 years old now
I broke my diaphragm trying the book method. ):
BRUH
Wow it turns out I pretty much know already how because I play the bassoon as well. Lol
is it supposed to hurt breathing from your diaphragm?
Does this only work on ocarina
I am going to get an ocirina
Oo still dont know how it works
Im still getting the squeak on the ocarina and im most sure it is my fault. Do you have any advice to breath in the ocarina?
Is your ocarina plastic?
If the vibrato comes naturally, how do you "control" it when it happens? There can always be times where you want a long note without vibrato, how do you then not do vibrato? Or how to apply vibrato to a short note? I am learning ocarina myself and so far I use the pulsing breath (diaphragm) method that you also did in the video, because that way I can apply it when needed. Thanks for the video, hope you will reply!
Woah, you copy pasted a comment.
This is actually a very good question. Does anyone have an answer for this?
If you think about it logically, it doesn't occur just "naturally" because any person who sits upright at a desk job would be breathing in vibrato, which isn't how humans breathe. It's all in the muscles that control the diaphragm - kind of like how when you first learn to type on a keyboard without looking: you overstretch your fingers and then sometimes over-correct until you finally develop the fine-motor skills to type accurately without looking.
First you have to hold a good note. You practice holding a clear solid note that comes from the diaphragm (you need to be mentally thinking about this as you play because it's easy to slip up). Vibrato engages very small movements in the muscles, a level of control we don't normally engage in but once we DO develop that skill, it's not like it just becomes the default. The only reason I think David is saying it comes "naturally" is because with enough diaphragm practice you develop control over the smaller muscles but they are so subtle you don't really notice it, you can only feel the affect of them producing vibrato. The bottom line is that it is something you deliberately control, but the acquisition of the skill comes naturally (through practice), and once you have it it becomes second nature (e.g., like breathing or blinking - you can control when it happens and when it doesn't, but it happens naturally otherwise).
@@axidion It appears to be starting to come naturally to me. I knew nothing at all about vibrato and it is naturally starting to appear in my playing (I wasn't trying to do it at all, it just started happening). Then I found this video and realized this is what is happening. (I naturally often breath from my diaphragm due to often doing meditation).
Curti brasian.
I can breath the true way with my diaphragm.
Got weird looks when I lay down, put a book on my chest and started breathing deeply in the grocery store.
Someone asked if I needed help.
Am I doing vibrato right?
i dont get it? someone help me!?
Can we still practice this with pneumonia?
I would focus on healing and not exserting yourself.
Pranayama
You'll have 6 packs soon after practicing breathing from diaphragm 😀😀. Actually well done in really showing how to breathe from diaphragm
I still can't do it after 2 days of practice :(
Anyone could help me :(?
Pls Play some Songs from the Game Jade Cocoon ♥ You would be my Hero ^^
Practicing vibrato was pretty easy for me because I already breath naturally. When I played the first notes on my ocarina the vibrato was almost perfect.
for some reason every ocarina ive bought, sounds way too airy. why is that?
How can i make less airy the high notes???
what is that?? how can i make acute bend withput airy sound??
oooohhhhh i see!! thanks a lot, ill try it right now :) and yeah is an alto C.
Thank you!!!
You should play one of the undertale songs most likley bonetrousle!!!
+hazardous larson HELL YA PLEASE PLEASEEE DO THIS
Cool suggestion :) Thanks!
Just posted one today!
Whats the name of that song!!!!????
Amazing grace
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After 20 years of singing and following this very advice, I have been forced to accept that my throat anatomy simply does not facilitate the vibrato effect. No matter how relaxed I am when I sing, my notes are steady.
I CAN'T DOET.
I just watched the video "How to Develop Vibrato on Flute" by DrDavidandJudiKlee and the "HAH!-dipping" feels unnatural. Is he doing it right? o_o
Wait, so most people don't breathe like that? 😅 Well, we learn for entire life xD