horrible and was not impressed at all. game was half baked and still looks like it's in beta version. game isnt dead mind you, but the game is already in a tight situation ever since it was released in ea. FGS is gonna have to crunch hard if they want this game to live and beat SC2 and age of empires. stormgate on the other hand will never be able to live up to the hype the devs promised us until 2028 or worse 2030. am i having high expectations for this company? yes i am. why? because they marketed themselves as "ex veteran RTS devs who created SC broodwar, SC2, WC 1,2, & 3. why wouldnt we as players, gamers, and rts enjoyers alike have high expectations. we're used to the ea scams over the past decade or so and especially ea games that have gone slient or been abandoned by its devs. on top of that this game was supposedly the so called "next gen RTS", but look at the state it is in right now... it is literally half baked and still looks like it's still in beta. i dont know why you're so hopeful for a game that didnt even make a good impression on its first day and a future that is questionable at best. dont get me wrong i want this game to succed, but how many times do we as gamers have to go through this slog again huh? how many times do we have see the devs redemption arc? how many times do we need a game that gets released half baked and is finished later? what happened to all the money that FGS got from investors and their fundraising? they either didnt put it to good use or are saving up that money to keep for themselves and add more MTX into their game to make more money while saying that they need more money for development. over the many years i am sick and tired of games that are overpromised and are hyped too much only to end up not living up the hype that the devs were marketing or spewing from their mouths. im not hopeful for this game as games like gates of pyre, godsworn, and zerospace are way much more better than stormgate and yet they arent even out yet, hell some are only still in either alpha or beta testing. you're telling me that these games that arent made by ex veteran devs look way more appealing than stormgate?
@@cheenouthao9458 It's increíble how u take the time to write a text for a Game u don't like. How unfortunate that you have such a sad life and thats why u have to take out all your traumas and get even with an indie Game.
@@transistor3115 thank you. i thought i could use some spacing too, but i didnt really know where i could use the spacing as the text you saw is me talking about so many things out of order so i didnt know where to put the spacing.
Do you have any idea how much it would have cost them? I am not very fond of it as well, but art is really expensive. I would prefer this art opposing to FG go broke...
@@veseliniliev3361 if you want your game to be liked you need to improve it, not just making crap and then telling people that they need to like it because the devs cant afford it
First impressions matter the most. It's worth noting that even a game that made incredible progress like No Man's Sky never came close to reaching its launch player numbers even when it objectively became a great, completed game. I hope this doesn't happen to Stormgate...
Yeah, I think that's it, first impressions matter most. Having a failed launch in Early Access is still a failed launch. With expectations this high, I think going Early Access and showing the game off in such a rough state was always going to be a fatal mistake, it needed to be much more polished before the public got introduced to it. You need an explosive launch to keep the money coming in so you can continue to deliver high quality updates to the game and keep the audience engaged. The difference with No Man's Sky is that it was a different time, they made their first impression and Hello Games got everybody's money on preorders before the game even launched, so even though it was a fraudulent catastrophe they still had enough resources to eventually fix the game. Stormgate needs lots of players continually engaged with the game to buy campaign missions and co-op commanders, if they fall off like this the game is probably going to wind up on a downward spiral until it's abandoned. I actually was very skeptical about Stormgate from the start and found the hype really obnoxious, but once I got to see the gameplay, I liked the game! Those player numbers are shockingly small though, I guess everybody on Steam is playing Black Myth Wukong right now?
Even if no man's sky launched perfectly it still would have lost players since it was overhyped and even people not into the genre it was in bought the game. Updating No Man's Sky saved the company's reputation so players will now trust any new games they released as their reputation was fixed. Stormgate didn't exactly garner much attention other than the RTS community and even most RTS players didn't find this game appealing when SC2 is literally free too and has a better art style, soundtrack and feel. I highly doubt this game will succeed, probably gonna end like Back 4 Blood
@@Zibit21 buddy to make a game you need to improve it, not just saying ''WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE NEXT GENERATION RTS AND IT WILL BE THE BEST IT WILL BE LIKE SC3'' and then making this crap and asking for so much money for the people to try early acces is disaster the game offers less, cost more despite being early acess
For me, the co-op which is the part I was looking forward to is just kind of disappointing. Not having a free commander for each race feels like a massive misstep, as is charging twice what SC2 did for commanders despite Stormgate commanders arguably having far less value. Raynor, Kerrigan and Artanis were the closest to their ladder races and even they had a bunch of stuff simply not available there, whereas Auralanna is mostly just ladder Celestials with a few swapped units (including the scout for some reason? Not sure how useful that is in a PvE mode where all the attack waves are telegraphed on the map). And part of the appeal of the SC2 commanders was that they were established characters and you could really see them leaning into the nuances of their character and lore to create mechanics that made sense for them, whereas I don't know who Auralanna or Warz are outside a short lore blurb each so their mechanics have to speak for themselves. It feels like they made the mistake of so many RTS before them, trying to jump on the SC2 wagon with 1v1 esports as their focus and ignoring the fact that 1v1 ladder was never the most popular mode even in SC2, campaign and co-op were. Stormgate's campaign is essentially a bunch of reheated Blizzard RTS hits so far (I will be pleasantly surprised if Amara doesn't turn evil due to the artifact), and the co-op missions are okay but the commanders feel half-baked.
yee like starcraft 2 do it good, they know they not first one and that make challange for them becuse sc2 get upgrades... but yet they just make it work that sc2 co op in it start... and now co op is not in great place if you have lvl 15 and 90+ you probady play only brutal + becuse of brutal are to easy, and mutadors are bugs not balance, like in few map nucks mutador will hit your workers in mein becuse reasons ect. soo if stormgate get worst them it not great.
"Not having a free commander for each race feels like a massive misstep"- exactly, its difficult to bring my friend group to play this game without having at least some free options beside Blockade, i know its free to play and all commanders can be played until lvl 5 but it seems like a no brainer to at least provide the option to fully kit out at least 1 commander per race :(
you are totally right but to starcrafts credit, the co-op was run and designed by an absolute legend in the RTS world. It's not like im dissing the SG devs but they probably want to focus on other things before they flesh out the co-op
As a software developer, I've seen from experience that annoying the stakeholders with early builds is the correct move to getting a good product without wasting time on refactoring and overblowing the budget. I'm pretty confident in the 1.0 version, going by the changes we've seen so far, so I hope they're saving for the marketing push on 1.0. Besides, not everything is here for the feedback. Some SFX/VFX are not missing because they don't know it's needed. It's just not done yet, and they need the feedback on gameplay, so that's how the pipeline works. Same for using isometric gameplay models in cutscenes, they know you need a separate model with its own rig. It just doesn't exist yet.
Frost Giant is learning nothing from their mistakes. They are planning on releasing 3v3 in an early state. the whole early state thing is one of their biggest problems. I don't understand their continuous want to release things before they are anywhere near completion. As a current player of stormgate I would much rather wait for a more complete product then continuously be given a game that feels lackluster. For example the campaign was so bad when it released that I played the first mission and after that I told myself I was not going to touch the campaign until it was finished being produced.
@@TheKamotechunks yet nobody wants to give green paper as the reviews are legit about to bomb sub 50% meaning even less engagement on Steam. It's a predicament they've set up for themselves where money can't be made without quality product, but quality product can't be made without more money.
@@dennisthorson4159 no hate, i was looking forward to this game. but at this point, i think they are just cashing up with the hype. im sure they already knew that they have nothing new to offer and this game wont last long.
@FarmManOfficial-Stormgate agreed with you, we need to give feedbacks so they work on it better and better but we must recognize their efforts wich will be important for the futur of the product, someone working 18h per days to work on feedbacks to give a better version, will need encouragment eventually and not negative thought about something else right away. Cause we really don't want starcraft and warcraft devs to leave the ship. They are excited to work with us to give us what we need and what we want, for a game to work it really needs to stay that way, and for them to stay excited to work with us is for us to recognize their hard work, and not notice only negative things.
Since day one, tons of people complained about Stormgate's chinese mobile game knock-off art style and said that it would kill the game before release. And many of them were banned by the Reddit Stormgate mods. Yet here we are, a dead game killed by the hubris of their devs by not listening to their community.
@@dennisthorson4159 yes so if it is as haters proclaimed that they already spent all the money they got then they are fucked and it's done for. If they have enough money to fund it for a year or two then anything can happen still. So far they don't act like they are out of money though.
At the sometimes you say that you are hopeful for the future of the game (2:00) an on an other you say that you don't think concurrent player will be much higher when 1.0 version hits.(2:12) Let it be loud and clear, there is absolutely NO WAY Frost Giant can sustain a F2P game with less than 1,000 concurrent players. If 1.0 hits with numbers like that, it will be dead on arrival. As a F2P game, Stormgate needs at least double or triple the population of a game like AOE 4 to be profitable. That's the trade off being F2P: you make less money per users but you make up for that by having a bigger player base. It would require a spectacular recovery from Stormgate to be a success, it's possible but unlikely.
@@isaac_shelton Anyone who paid for content, did so knowing the game is incomplete, and the content paid for will be iterated on for the next year or so.
I call BS on their campaign response. People aren’t saying they only want a final product for the campaign, they said FG’s initial design and intent for the campaign is awful. The story and characters are bad and the missions are not fun. Them now hiding campaign development is a great way to destroy confidence in the product.
I wonder what kind of response you would have hoped for. There is so much negativity and it feels like no matter what FG says/does people will just hate and refuse to acknowledge this is not a finished product
This is more then enough players for 1v1 for game to survive, but if it is to be profitable they need to grow and this is why campaign release is worrying. Hopefully 3v3 will be another opportunity to bring more players in.
Hey, this is my first RTS ever played and I will say that I enjoy 1v1, it's rewarding and I benefit from learning new stuff. The thing that puts me off is overall artstyle and atmosphere. I do enjoy winning games and improving, but game itself isn't looking cool, every map look the same for me, everything feels "plastic". I have never played sc2 but when I watch some pro matches I always do sc2 due to beautiful map design and unique atmosphere (some cool fungus map or icy cold terens, every map has a soul). Meanwhile in stormgate everything feels... pointless. I can't even name exactly what it is, but it's something fundamental that won't be just "patched out". Dissapointing that the problem lays in the very "core" of the game.
@@Ht9ehtoom I love competetive content, but I didn't want to follow 10 years of strats, meta and game knowledge this is why I was hyped and had high expecations about Stormgate - completely new RTS game, with a fresh start where I can figure out things from a scratch. I have heard really good things about sc2 and wc3 campaigns, definietly will give it a try in the future!
I think stormgate could become a good game. Unfortunately, frost giant won't be a studio in a year. Despite the community cope and pr sheilding, all the release decsions theyve made point to funds running dry, and they are at least a year off producing anything that casual may buy. That compounded with the issues already with the game and the dwindling player numbers, dropping below 1k peak as of yesterday. This game is done.
I want to love this game. I've been eagerly waiting to play it aince I heard about it. However, after playing the Early Access for a few minutes, it figuratively left a bad taste in my mouth. Re-installed SC2 and compared to it that game which was more than a decade old, looked better, played better and was more fun to play. Hoping , the devs address the game's various issues before it comes out of Early Access.
It totally is. They got more than a decade of information to know what works and what doesnt thanks to previous developed titles like Sc2, Wc3, and even others like the AoE series or even C&C. They simply managed their resources wrong, found out that they messed up way to late in development, and now they had to release an unfinished and unpolished product because they burnt away their $30+ million budget. @@Zibit21
@@Zibit21 stormgate marketing was always "sc2 2.0" and now we should not compare this game with sc2 ? nice ! hahahaha nice joke, cause of ppl like you we get bullshit game at hight price today
How did they ever come together and approve this art style? How after endless amount so of criticism of the art style as a complete turnoff, are they STILL not changing course? Early access launch was one big chance. Dont know how many more they get to make a good impression and draw in a lot of players. But if they continue THIS OUT OF TOUCH ( the Kickstarter debacle, ignored other gameplay criticism) , then I guess RIP stormgate.
I grew up N64 and old pc game graphics, and I've always played SC2 on low graphics (budget PC). The art style controversy feels so overblown. I think the style is good enough; imo it needs minor adjustments with color saturation/textures, same with the maps. Unit/building designs need minor changes to help with easier identification and visibility, but none of these are difficult to fix. The campaign needs a lot of work, but I can tell they focused initially on the 1v1 experience. The core gameplay feels good to me, and I'm looking forward to playing more when I get a better pc.
As a game designer and artist, early feedback is really important to iterate one. It doesn't matter about the experience of the developers, the playerbase know a lot about games because they are the ones that are playing them, and you find stuff you would never imagine just with your team. It's a great bed to make sure your design decisions were correct or need adjusting. To me I think they're doing everything correct, because you want to get it in the hands of the players asap to iterate, but clearly the playerbase just want a final finished game which can yield worse results. I like the 1v1 mode, and campaign was far too early it seems, but this is how development is, they want the community to help them but so far its a slight rejection from the RTS community. I don't think we will see the numbers go much higher now tbh. Even when the game gets better, it might just continue to struggle...
agreed. FGS generated a ton of hype and excitement around it, but lost it in an instant when ea came around. the RTS community and gamers in general slightly rejected this game cuz they thought that they would get at least a good product in their hands. sadly they didnt even get a product looks finished and looks like it's in beta at best.
Not having a realistic art style is fine, but it should really have something more than a generic style. If we look at Starcraft 2, the Zerg look very insect and contagious and the Protoss look mysterious and alien, the art style reflects this very well. However, when I look at the Stormgate factions, all I see is: Vanguard - Terran Update Infernal Host - Toy Story 666? Celestial Armada - just Red Alert 3 Empire of the Rising Sun faction Sorry for my ramblings, I really want this game to be good and I still believe it can be
With 3v3 coming sooner and Frost Giant focusing on campaign cutscenes more, it’s probably the campaign that will get pushed to 2025. I’m thinking late January to early February 2025 while 3v3 will come out late November or early December 2024.
Everyone talks about how it early, give them a break and so on. But you ignore the fact that they ask you a stupid amount of cash for basic stuff (like other heroes, campaign missions). Just count how much money you can spend now, in what is not an early access build for a good game, but an in-house build of a AA game that would not be ready for the market for over 1 year (likely way more). Why do you and so many others ignore the money issue. Being a free game does not mean they can be like this. Imagine SC2 going free to play (as it did) but only letting you play a tutorial, not the campaign.
I want to like this game but I can't get over how it looks. The visuals just make me want to stop playing immediately. Also, the mechanics and game feels worse than SC2 and WC3. The Celestials are basically "let's take the most annoying unit in SC2 and make it an entire faction" I know it's early access but it really feels like they should start over
When comparing it to SC2, I had much higher expectations...across the board. That being said, I am hopeful that in September I will be convinced to give it another go when they improve the visuals, unit/hero/race design and implement better UI. I'm not sure how they can both monetize their first draft of campaign missions but also excuse the quality? You have to pay to play them...this rationale would only hold up if they were free content... Thank you for the video!
To be honest I'm pretty upset with the frost giant team and what they have managed to come out with so far. They never should have released the campaign in its unfinished state because it is going to leave a bad taste and everyone's mouth and they will likely never return to the game to spend money towards storm gate again. Seeing less than 5,000 players is actually a huge eye opener for me I did not realize that the situation was that bad. Thanks I really hope that Frost Giant can somehow turn this game around but I am not very optimistic at this point in time. This whole idea that they want to bring players with them throughout the game's development is great in theory but it is certainly not working in their favor.
their concept since the start miss the essence of their studios. At first I think they go for norse myths to play with. But they go to generic angels vs demons race without christian theme or out the mysterious concept like celestial from other civs. But they go for an alien race. Which they just copy the whole story of warcraft. They have concept but no recognizable or mascot character to begin with which is suck. They focus on ads but they miss the part of own identity. No specifics but also the generic is the worst thing to begin with.
I think the problem is all the games feel the exact same, there is only really 1 playstyle per race (in the higher elos). Game took to many L's to fast with campign, quality, Warz scandle, and it died. They need a no man's sky redemtion arc over years to get it back up.
No man's sky never hit a single roadmap goal until they went silent for years. FG has hit every goal so far and has constantly released balanced updates. People freaking out over the campaign and graphic quality makes no sense given the short development time they have had and that they were very clear that EA was going to be a true EA and not a near finished fake beta like AAA games. They said they would charge for coop heroes and we all saw Warz in the trailer and that the paid packs didn't include him months before launch.
You seem to have forgotten No man's sky's release if you really think that strikes up a good analogy. NMS was basically a legal scam. Not only did the game outright not work for over half the playerbase, Sean - the lead developer (and seriously bless that guy, but I'll not go easy on his initial mistakes) outright LIED about the content. No vague hinting at- no, outright LYING about the game. NMS's release was arguably the worst release we have ever had for any game ever. Stormgate is just disappointing.
@@Bagginsess the problem is that EVEN if all that were true, the gameplay is still ass. Nothing has any personality (well maybe the infernals, slightly. celestial and vanguard are zzz though), no attacks pack any punch/nothing feels impactful.. they just aren't making any of the right choices gameplay-wise.
@@EB-bl6ccthe gameplay is good idk what you're talking about. I like the factions but that is subjective and I wont bother contesting your views on that. All of what I said is true. Name me a time FG missed a dead line or had an extreme lull in updates? I play halo and SG got more updates in closed alpha and beta then Halo Infinite got in an entire year and that was considered a fully released game broken and in need of repair owned by the richest gaming company on earth. I also use to play Ground Branch a game that's been in EA for 5 years and only recently added prone and started working on the AI because all they cared about were graphics. I don't think starcraft fans understand what a true horror show of an EA game can look like, No Man's Sky is so far off base compared to the quality of stormgate and yes stormgate is quality for EA. Now if they fail to improve then sure by all means rip it apart but they have shown no indication of that and their track record is warcraft and starcraft so how the majority of people can have less faith in FG then the reanimated skeleton that is activision blizzard with sc2 is beyond me.
I said nothing about no man skys relase. My analogy was they need to put nose to grind stone and fix things systematically and often If it wants a chance at taking off after a less then stellar relase. @ThefamousMrcroissant
The game is in a rough state, but i have hope i FG. EA might have been recieved badly, but it gives FG the oportunity to get the feedback and focus on what players find important and that is what they are doing
Call me crazy but with some balance adjustments and some polish to in game models, animations and sound design I think this game will be a banger. Which is not that bad considering most early access games need a whole game loop redesign. At least the problems with Stormgate (in my opinion) are not rooted to the core of the game. You can see a skeleton underneath that looks and feels like a good game.
Do Frostgiant have 60 million in the bank we don't know about? All this early access/early stage stuff is fine - if they do - if they don't ? well, the better start working for free. All 60 employees.
I'm sorry but there is no motivation for people to play the game. Marketing is non existent and the only hype there was about the game died a while ago. The game released and I never even noticed, even though I was searching everything and anything about it a year ago. In general it seems weird that the team got so much money from the backers but they never invested in marketing.
The game just looks bad. I don't like the art. I don't like the world. I don't like the factions. How can it be improved? You have to start all over again.
Dead rn? No. is it going to die? Yes obviously. The flaws in it's foundation is so clearly there that even giant games video about "the next major rts will fail" accurately discribe stormgate downfall. It's amazing how it took us years of discussion about the problem with the genre dying and the devs just think "hmm yes let's focus on 1v1"
They just released it with not enough stuff. Campaign was disapointing, Co-op seems....well not that good compared to what other RTS offer (to not drop names). The Balance is not perfect (which is understandable). The reak Question for me is: How will they pull back the people that disliked the initial "bad" experience? Going early access means there should be a decent game already. As of now, outside of some "ok-ish" PvP, there is nothing here. Why would I play this, if there are a ton of other RTS out there? Also like other comments already said: Why is there not a free commander for Co-op for every race? Why are there only so little free Campaign missions to tell you a story to draw you in? If I dont care about the little story they give out for free (right now they didnt do it at all for me), why would I buy more campaign? I am not invested into the "bad" charakters. Especialy the Charakter of the female faction leader (cant even remember her name) seems....unlikeable? They have to flash out the campaign so far and also add more free campaign missions to flash out the charakters, so we care. If they dont do that, Campaign will be a dead product. Why buy into it in hopes there is something good, if what you had so far felt crap? As for Co-op: They can still release free commanders for every faction + have payed ones. So this can still be fixed easely and fast. As for the PvP: People will figure out a meta, nerfs and buffs will come and in 6-12 months the balance will be good enough to be worth playing (again, compared to other older RTS that have figured out the balancing quite well). They just promised so much for the game and delivered too little so far. They should have rather waited a bit longer and delivered more / a better product. That way more people would have checked it out and sticked around. As for now, there is not much there to play / do (if you are not hardcore into PvP)
not dead but needs a LOT of work and eating some humble pie/returning to the drawing board on some things. As it stands out of the handful of RTS that are in development/upcoming right now, Stormgate is in the bottom half of that group IMO. They're really lucky they had some starcraft people supporting it or things would be much worse
Something to be mindful of is age of empires aint growing. Where this game as more of a live service can grow so even if it aint popular now it doesn't mean it cant grow into something many people really like. Even reading most peoples comments these changes are all things the game could get so I dont get why people so mad as if they expect the game to come out perfect. Even sc2 didn't really even pop off until the 2nd game lol. Personally I am really excited to see some new starscraft replacements even though rts isn't the biggest genre I do think these game do have a really good experience for those that like it.
Game is dead man stop hoping 3v3 cant save it (and EA is just and excuse for bad product) ..Its just not good cant compete to AOE4 or AOE2 or SC2 or WC3 and now AOMR not even close to competitors.. And what is the fantasy Space marines with rail guns vs Diablo with swords and axes and 3rd faction i dont know what is it angels or robots its just all over the place .. Game is like Touren in space marine suit and April fools joke..
they shoud not toutch any part of the game do 0 balance and upgrade until they fix all bugs, stormgate work great on specific hardware settings, it was probably created on similar ones, but PC is a challenge for many configurations and on most of them, both strong and weak, the game just likes to crash like that, and on weaker ones... well, multiplayer free to play rts, the amount of action or graphics in their current state do not justify the requirements to maintain a stable 30 fps. let's look at lol which works to around being available to everyone or even starcraft 2 which is very nice but despite everything not only works smoothly but also allows drastic cuts that actually change something. this game is currently barely playable due to bugs, and if you don't have a computer above average, you probably won't have a more enjoyable game even without bugs, so we exclude 50-55% of players.
There are so many out there saying nothing but ‘Nooo, Stormgate can't come out and be good! I will never let it kill my favourite RTS!’ or ’RTS is dead, don't make such a fuss about it, you're all wrong!’ just because people can't have fun with something anymore when other people dare to have fun with something else. especially when they might even have more fun than you do
I think he wants a great RTS game...and that's why he is happy it's basically DoA. We shouldn't be trying to sell such mediocre trash to ourselves as "the next big RTS" because it isn't. Roll on ZeroSpace and Immortal : Gates of Pyre.
@@FarmManOfficial-Stormgate wc3 sc2 hybrid with no innovation And a campaign which is Arthas karaggan over watch hybrid with the most shitty looking art style ever is the cash grab that we all dont need and no matter how much money they throw on tournaments it wont help the game becauses artificial boost dont work Wait for tempest rising and zerospace What a joke when is the next big rts can be made inside sc2 engine easily and it will definitely look much better
I love the part where this dude says that devs are ultra specialists and veterans from blizzard who 100% compitent and know what they are doing so mb feedback isnt even needed... said that on a pile of crap which is on fire atm which is this game lol
It was garbage, the gameplay was mid. It had nothing unique about it and the units are all plain. Except for the infernal thing that shoots an fire orb I though that is the only unit that is cool
Me too but we won’t sustain this company. They really dropped the ball here, they knew and said how important the casual crowd was. They launched with bare bones offerings for that crowd behind paywalls. Me and you, the 1v1 enjoyers are not the majority and we needed a healthy casual base for any real future here. I’d put money that this will fall off badly and you and I will struggle to find matches and recognize players on repeat soon enough.
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What did you make of stormgate's early access launch?
I've been enjoying the game for sure. I think it still has an immense potential.
horrible and was not impressed at all. game was half baked and still looks like it's in beta version. game isnt dead mind you, but the game is already in a tight situation ever since it was released in ea. FGS is gonna have to crunch hard if they want this game to live and beat SC2 and age of empires. stormgate on the other hand will never be able to live up to the hype the devs promised us until 2028 or worse 2030. am i having high expectations for this company? yes i am. why? because they marketed themselves as "ex veteran RTS devs who created SC broodwar, SC2, WC 1,2, & 3. why wouldnt we as players, gamers, and rts enjoyers alike have high expectations. we're used to the ea scams over the past decade or so and especially ea games that have gone slient or been abandoned by its devs. on top of that this game was supposedly the so called "next gen RTS", but look at the state it is in right now... it is literally half baked and still looks like it's still in beta. i dont know why you're so hopeful for a game that didnt even make a good impression on its first day and a future that is questionable at best. dont get me wrong i want this game to succed, but how many times do we as gamers have to go through this slog again huh? how many times do we have see the devs redemption arc? how many times do we need a game that gets released half baked and is finished later? what happened to all the money that FGS got from investors and their fundraising? they either didnt put it to good use or are saving up that money to keep for themselves and add more MTX into their game to make more money while saying that they need more money for development. over the many years i am sick and tired of games that are overpromised and are hyped too much only to end up not living up the hype that the devs were marketing or spewing from their mouths. im not hopeful for this game as games like gates of pyre, godsworn, and zerospace are way much more better than stormgate and yet they arent even out yet, hell some are only still in either alpha or beta testing. you're telling me that these games that arent made by ex veteran devs look way more appealing than stormgate?
@@cheenouthao9458 You could use correct grammar and spacing, then someone might read that block of excrement.
@@cheenouthao9458 It's increíble how u take the time to write a text for a Game u don't like. How unfortunate that you have such a sad life and thats why u have to take out all your traumas and get even with an indie Game.
@@transistor3115 thank you. i thought i could use some spacing too, but i didnt really know where i could use the spacing as the text you saw is me talking about so many things out of order so i didnt know where to put the spacing.
The hubris of not changing art style, given almost unanimous dissatisfaction
Do you have any idea how much it would have cost them? I am not very fond of it as well, but art is really expensive. I would prefer this art opposing to FG go broke...
@@veseliniliev3361 if you want your game to be liked you need to improve it, not just making crap and then telling people that they need to like it because the devs cant afford it
Well, it's not like they're gonna redo every model, texture and cutscene.
@@georgegorvaniagerge7077 nobody is forcing you or expect to like something you don't. Once again - I prefer a game with a meh art than no game.
@@veseliniliev3361 damn bro really said i want this disaster of a game rather than waiting for something better
First impressions matter the most. It's worth noting that even a game that made incredible progress like No Man's Sky never came close to reaching its launch player numbers even when it objectively became a great, completed game. I hope this doesn't happen to Stormgate...
Yeah, I think that's it, first impressions matter most. Having a failed launch in Early Access is still a failed launch. With expectations this high, I think going Early Access and showing the game off in such a rough state was always going to be a fatal mistake, it needed to be much more polished before the public got introduced to it. You need an explosive launch to keep the money coming in so you can continue to deliver high quality updates to the game and keep the audience engaged.
The difference with No Man's Sky is that it was a different time, they made their first impression and Hello Games got everybody's money on preorders before the game even launched, so even though it was a fraudulent catastrophe they still had enough resources to eventually fix the game. Stormgate needs lots of players continually engaged with the game to buy campaign missions and co-op commanders, if they fall off like this the game is probably going to wind up on a downward spiral until it's abandoned.
I actually was very skeptical about Stormgate from the start and found the hype really obnoxious, but once I got to see the gameplay, I liked the game! Those player numbers are shockingly small though, I guess everybody on Steam is playing Black Myth Wukong right now?
Even if no man's sky launched perfectly it still would have lost players since it was overhyped and even people not into the genre it was in bought the game. Updating No Man's Sky saved the company's reputation so players will now trust any new games they released as their reputation was fixed. Stormgate didn't exactly garner much attention other than the RTS community and even most RTS players didn't find this game appealing when SC2 is literally free too and has a better art style, soundtrack and feel. I highly doubt this game will succeed, probably gonna end like Back 4 Blood
they made a very early launch. Campaign is a joke and coop and 1v1 feels heavily unfineshed
40M in funding and they came out with Torchlight 2 graphics
Sounds like you think that games are made by throwing money at them 😅
@@Zibit21 sounds like you have no clue game development costs money lol
@@Zibit21 buddy to make a game you need to improve it, not just saying ''WE ARE GOING TO MAKE THE NEXT GENERATION RTS AND IT WILL BE THE BEST IT WILL BE LIKE SC3'' and then making this crap
and asking for so much money for the people to try early acces is disaster
the game offers less, cost more despite being early acess
Torchlight graphics was better because it was not thrown with face closeups in FullHD+
For me, the co-op which is the part I was looking forward to is just kind of disappointing. Not having a free commander for each race feels like a massive misstep, as is charging twice what SC2 did for commanders despite Stormgate commanders arguably having far less value. Raynor, Kerrigan and Artanis were the closest to their ladder races and even they had a bunch of stuff simply not available there, whereas Auralanna is mostly just ladder Celestials with a few swapped units (including the scout for some reason? Not sure how useful that is in a PvE mode where all the attack waves are telegraphed on the map). And part of the appeal of the SC2 commanders was that they were established characters and you could really see them leaning into the nuances of their character and lore to create mechanics that made sense for them, whereas I don't know who Auralanna or Warz are outside a short lore blurb each so their mechanics have to speak for themselves.
It feels like they made the mistake of so many RTS before them, trying to jump on the SC2 wagon with 1v1 esports as their focus and ignoring the fact that 1v1 ladder was never the most popular mode even in SC2, campaign and co-op were. Stormgate's campaign is essentially a bunch of reheated Blizzard RTS hits so far (I will be pleasantly surprised if Amara doesn't turn evil due to the artifact), and the co-op missions are okay but the commanders feel half-baked.
"reheated blizzard hits" is truly the perfect way to describe the campaign lol
yee like starcraft 2 do it good, they know they not first one and that make challange for them becuse sc2 get upgrades... but yet they just make it work that sc2 co op in it start... and now co op is not in great place if you have lvl 15 and 90+ you probady play only brutal + becuse of brutal are to easy, and mutadors are bugs not balance, like in few map nucks mutador will hit your workers in mein becuse reasons ect. soo if stormgate get worst them it not great.
"Not having a free commander for each race feels like a massive misstep"- exactly, its difficult to bring my friend group to play this game without having at least some free options beside Blockade, i know its free to play and all commanders can be played until lvl 5 but it seems like a no brainer to at least provide the option to fully kit out at least 1 commander per race :(
you are totally right but to starcrafts credit, the co-op was run and designed by an absolute legend in the RTS world. It's not like im dissing the SG devs but they probably want to focus on other things before they flesh out the co-op
@@themon1100 frost giant is supposedly also filled with rts legends. Many of them are ex-blizz devs.
As a software developer, I've seen from experience that annoying the stakeholders with early builds is the correct move to getting a good product without wasting time on refactoring and overblowing the budget. I'm pretty confident in the 1.0 version, going by the changes we've seen so far, so I hope they're saving for the marketing push on 1.0.
Besides, not everything is here for the feedback. Some SFX/VFX are not missing because they don't know it's needed. It's just not done yet, and they need the feedback on gameplay, so that's how the pipeline works. Same for using isometric gameplay models in cutscenes, they know you need a separate model with its own rig. It just doesn't exist yet.
The longer time goes on the more it's turning out to be another 'Back 4 Blood' situation.
Frost Giant is learning nothing from their mistakes. They are planning on releasing 3v3 in an early state. the whole early state thing is one of their biggest problems. I don't understand their continuous want to release things before they are anywhere near completion. As a current player of stormgate I would much rather wait for a more complete product then continuously be given a game that feels lackluster. For example the campaign was so bad when it released that I played the first mission and after that I told myself I was not going to touch the campaign until it was finished being produced.
they want to release early for those green papers ofc.
@@TheKamotechunks yet nobody wants to give green paper as the reviews are legit about to bomb sub 50% meaning even less engagement on Steam. It's a predicament they've set up for themselves where money can't be made without quality product, but quality product can't be made without more money.
@@dennisthorson4159 no hate, i was looking forward to this game. but at this point, i think they are just cashing up with the hype. im sure they already knew that they have nothing new to offer and this game wont last long.
@FarmManOfficial-Stormgate agreed with you, we need to give feedbacks so they work on it better and better but we must recognize their efforts wich will be important for the futur of the product, someone working 18h per days to work on feedbacks to give a better version, will need encouragment eventually and not negative thought about something else right away. Cause we really don't want starcraft and warcraft devs to leave the ship. They are excited to work with us to give us what we need and what we want, for a game to work it really needs to stay that way, and for them to stay excited to work with us is for us to recognize their hard work, and not notice only negative things.
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Since day one, tons of people complained about Stormgate's chinese mobile game knock-off art style and said that it would kill the game before release. And many of them were banned by the Reddit Stormgate mods. Yet here we are, a dead game killed by the hubris of their devs by not listening to their community.
Meh, game plays well, there are more then enough players to find matches.
@@daPawlak Does that matter though if there's not enough money to fund the servers? If it closes completely, nobody is going to be happy.
@@dennisthorson4159 yes so if it is as haters proclaimed that they already spent all the money they got then they are fucked and it's done for. If they have enough money to fund it for a year or two then anything can happen still.
So far they don't act like they are out of money though.
@@daPawlakhaters? 😂😂😂😂😂
At the sometimes you say that you are hopeful for the future of the game (2:00) an on an other you say that you don't think concurrent player will be much higher when 1.0 version hits.(2:12)
Let it be loud and clear, there is absolutely NO WAY Frost Giant can sustain a F2P game with less than 1,000 concurrent players. If 1.0 hits with numbers like that, it will be dead on arrival.
As a F2P game, Stormgate needs at least double or triple the population of a game like AOE 4 to be profitable. That's the trade off being F2P: you make less money per users but you make up for that by having a bigger player base.
It would require a spectacular recovery from Stormgate to be a success, it's possible but unlikely.
"it's not finished" is not an excuse for releasing a paid product that's bad
what if it was free?
But its free
Warz is $10 (even for +$300 Kickstarter backers) and many players paid $25 to play the campaign before anyone else
@@isaac_shelton Anyone who paid for content, did so knowing the game is incomplete, and the content paid for will be iterated on for the next year or so.
@@Edenem10 It's not free, it's full of microtransactions.
"player numbers arent what i expected" bro its averaging at 1k players, its legit dead
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I call BS on their campaign response. People aren’t saying they only want a final product for the campaign, they said FG’s initial design and intent for the campaign is awful. The story and characters are bad and the missions are not fun. Them now hiding campaign development is a great way to destroy confidence in the product.
I wonder what kind of response you would have hoped for. There is so much negativity and it feels like no matter what FG says/does people will just hate and refuse to acknowledge this is not a finished product
@@veseliniliev3361could use a story that isn't just "what if overwatch but warcraft 3?"
This is more then enough players for 1v1 for game to survive, but if it is to be profitable they need to grow and this is why campaign release is worrying.
Hopefully 3v3 will be another opportunity to bring more players in.
Hey, this is my first RTS ever played and I will say that I enjoy 1v1, it's rewarding and I benefit from learning new stuff. The thing that puts me off is overall artstyle and atmosphere. I do enjoy winning games and improving, but game itself isn't looking cool, every map look the same for me, everything feels "plastic". I have never played sc2 but when I watch some pro matches I always do sc2 due to beautiful map design and unique atmosphere (some cool fungus map or icy cold terens, every map has a soul). Meanwhile in stormgate everything feels... pointless. I can't even name exactly what it is, but it's something fundamental that won't be just "patched out". Dissapointing that the problem lays in the very "core" of the game.
Please play sc2's first campaign. It's free, and it's the best single player content ever made for rts.
@@Ht9ehtoom I love competetive content, but I didn't want to follow 10 years of strats, meta and game knowledge this is why I was hyped and had high expecations about Stormgate - completely new RTS game, with a fresh start where I can figure out things from a scratch.
I have heard really good things about sc2 and wc3 campaigns, definietly will give it a try in the future!
I think stormgate could become a good game. Unfortunately, frost giant won't be a studio in a year. Despite the community cope and pr sheilding, all the release decsions theyve made point to funds running dry, and they are at least a year off producing anything that casual may buy. That compounded with the issues already with the game and the dwindling player numbers, dropping below 1k peak as of yesterday. This game is done.
I want to love this game. I've been eagerly waiting to play it aince I heard about it. However, after playing the Early Access for a few minutes, it figuratively left a bad taste in my mouth. Re-installed SC2 and compared to it that game which was more than a decade old, looked better, played better and was more fun to play.
Hoping , the devs address the game's various issues before it comes out of Early Access.
SC2 has been developed longer - both pre- and after release -> not a fair comparison.
It totally is. They got more than a decade of information to know what works and what doesnt thanks to previous developed titles like Sc2, Wc3, and even others like the AoE series or even C&C. They simply managed their resources wrong, found out that they messed up way to late in development, and now they had to release an unfinished and unpolished product because they burnt away their $30+ million budget. @@Zibit21
@@Zibit21STFU they made that comparison by stating we are ex blizzard employees and this was supposed to be the next big rts.
What a l0@ser
@@Zibit21 players don't care. Players play a better game.
@@Zibit21 stormgate marketing was always "sc2 2.0" and now we should not compare this game with sc2 ? nice ! hahahaha nice joke, cause of ppl like you we get bullshit game at hight price today
How did they ever come together and approve this art style?
How after endless amount so of criticism of the art style as a complete turnoff, are they STILL not changing course?
Early access launch was one big chance. Dont know how many more they get to make a good impression and draw in a lot of players.
But if they continue THIS OUT OF TOUCH ( the Kickstarter debacle, ignored other gameplay criticism) , then I guess RIP stormgate.
same what i thought, how did they come together and just said "jup thats the art we want to go for", and lets not talk about the cgi trailer
I grew up N64 and old pc game graphics, and I've always played SC2 on low graphics (budget PC). The art style controversy feels so overblown. I think the style is good enough; imo it needs minor adjustments with color saturation/textures, same with the maps. Unit/building designs need minor changes to help with easier identification and visibility, but none of these are difficult to fix. The campaign needs a lot of work, but I can tell they focused initially on the 1v1 experience. The core gameplay feels good to me, and I'm looking forward to playing more when I get a better pc.
The humans look like apes without hair
As a game designer and artist, early feedback is really important to iterate one. It doesn't matter about the experience of the developers, the playerbase know a lot about games because they are the ones that are playing them, and you find stuff you would never imagine just with your team. It's a great bed to make sure your design decisions were correct or need adjusting. To me I think they're doing everything correct, because you want to get it in the hands of the players asap to iterate, but clearly the playerbase just want a final finished game which can yield worse results. I like the 1v1 mode, and campaign was far too early it seems, but this is how development is, they want the community to help them but so far its a slight rejection from the RTS community. I don't think we will see the numbers go much higher now tbh. Even when the game gets better, it might just continue to struggle...
agreed. FGS generated a ton of hype and excitement around it, but lost it in an instant when ea came around. the RTS community and gamers in general slightly rejected this game cuz they thought that they would get at least a good product in their hands. sadly they didnt even get a product looks finished and looks like it's in beta at best.
@@cheenouthao9458it is in beta... that's what EA is...
@@cheenouthao9458it's also so bad because I see no potential on the game whatsoever. There is literally no strengths in the game.
lmao so i should pay a game for help dev win more money ? nah bullshit marketing today fuck this shit
Not having a realistic art style is fine, but it should really have something more than a generic style. If we look at Starcraft 2, the Zerg look very insect and contagious and the Protoss look mysterious and alien, the art style reflects this very well. However, when I look at the Stormgate factions, all I see is:
Vanguard - Terran Update
Infernal Host - Toy Story 666?
Celestial Armada - just Red Alert 3 Empire of the Rising Sun faction
Sorry for my ramblings, I really want this game to be good and I still believe it can be
With 3v3 coming sooner and Frost Giant focusing on campaign cutscenes more, it’s probably the campaign that will get pushed to 2025. I’m thinking late January to early February 2025 while 3v3 will come out late November or early December 2024.
Everyone talks about how it early, give them a break and so on. But you ignore the fact that they ask you a stupid amount of cash for basic stuff (like other heroes, campaign missions). Just count how much money you can spend now, in what is not an early access build for a good game, but an in-house build of a AA game that would not be ready for the market for over 1 year (likely way more). Why do you and so many others ignore the money issue. Being a free game does not mean they can be like this. Imagine SC2 going free to play (as it did) but only letting you play a tutorial, not the campaign.
I really hope Stormgate succeeds, there are very few games that control as well as SCII/W3/DOTA 2, it's not there yet but their engine is good.
The problem with this campaign for me is, there's no personality that's likeable from any of those characters
4854 all time peak. Seems dead to me.
I want to like this game but I can't get over how it looks. The visuals just make me want to stop playing immediately. Also, the mechanics and game feels worse than SC2 and WC3. The Celestials are basically "let's take the most annoying unit in SC2 and make it an entire faction"
I know it's early access but it really feels like they should start over
thanks for all your hard work! I am loving the game and looking forward to the future. Sorry you have so many negative comments
When comparing it to SC2, I had much higher expectations...across the board. That being said, I am hopeful that in September I will be convinced to give it another go when they improve the visuals, unit/hero/race design and implement better UI. I'm not sure how they can both monetize their first draft of campaign missions but also excuse the quality? You have to pay to play them...this rationale would only hold up if they were free content...
Thank you for the video!
To be honest I'm pretty upset with the frost giant team and what they have managed to come out with so far. They never should have released the campaign in its unfinished state because it is going to leave a bad taste and everyone's mouth and they will likely never return to the game to spend money towards storm gate again. Seeing less than 5,000 players is actually a huge eye opener for me I did not realize that the situation was that bad. Thanks I really hope that Frost Giant can somehow turn this game around but I am not very optimistic at this point in time. This whole idea that they want to bring players with them throughout the game's development is great in theory but it is certainly not working in their favor.
their concept since the start miss the essence of their studios. At first I think they go for norse myths to play with. But they go to generic angels vs demons race without christian theme or out the mysterious concept like celestial from other civs. But they go for an alien race. Which they just copy the whole story of warcraft. They have concept but no recognizable or mascot character to begin with which is suck. They focus on ads but they miss the part of own identity. No specifics but also the generic is the worst thing to begin with.
I think the problem is all the games feel the exact same, there is only really 1 playstyle per race (in the higher elos). Game took to many L's to fast with campign, quality, Warz scandle, and it died. They need a no man's sky redemtion arc over years to get it back up.
No man's sky never hit a single roadmap goal until they went silent for years. FG has hit every goal so far and has constantly released balanced updates. People freaking out over the campaign and graphic quality makes no sense given the short development time they have had and that they were very clear that EA was going to be a true EA and not a near finished fake beta like AAA games. They said they would charge for coop heroes and we all saw Warz in the trailer and that the paid packs didn't include him months before launch.
You seem to have forgotten No man's sky's release if you really think that strikes up a good analogy. NMS was basically a legal scam. Not only did the game outright not work for over half the playerbase, Sean - the lead developer (and seriously bless that guy, but I'll not go easy on his initial mistakes) outright LIED about the content. No vague hinting at- no, outright LYING about the game.
NMS's release was arguably the worst release we have ever had for any game ever. Stormgate is just disappointing.
@@Bagginsess the problem is that EVEN if all that were true, the gameplay is still ass. Nothing has any personality (well maybe the infernals, slightly. celestial and vanguard are zzz though), no attacks pack any punch/nothing feels impactful.. they just aren't making any of the right choices gameplay-wise.
@@EB-bl6ccthe gameplay is good idk what you're talking about. I like the factions but that is subjective and I wont bother contesting your views on that.
All of what I said is true. Name me a time FG missed a dead line or had an extreme lull in updates? I play halo and SG got more updates in closed alpha and beta then Halo Infinite got in an entire year and that was considered a fully released game broken and in need of repair owned by the richest gaming company on earth. I also use to play Ground Branch a game that's been in EA for 5 years and only recently added prone and started working on the AI because all they cared about were graphics. I don't think starcraft fans understand what a true horror show of an EA game can look like, No Man's Sky is so far off base compared to the quality of stormgate and yes stormgate is quality for EA. Now if they fail to improve then sure by all means rip it apart but they have shown no indication of that and their track record is warcraft and starcraft so how the majority of people can have less faith in FG then the reanimated skeleton that is activision blizzard with sc2 is beyond me.
I said nothing about no man skys relase. My analogy was they need to put nose to grind stone and fix things systematically and often If it wants a chance at taking off after a less then stellar relase.
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The game is in a rough state, but i have hope i FG. EA might have been recieved badly, but it gives FG the oportunity to get the feedback and focus on what players find important and that is what they are doing
Call me crazy but with some balance adjustments and some polish to in game models, animations and sound design I think this game will be a banger. Which is not that bad considering most early access games need a whole game loop redesign. At least the problems with Stormgate (in my opinion) are not rooted to the core of the game. You can see a skeleton underneath that looks and feels like a good game.
Is Stormgate dead? Yes
Do Frostgiant have 60 million in the bank we don't know about? All this early access/early stage stuff is fine - if they do - if they don't ? well, the better start working for free. All 60 employees.
I'm sorry but there is no motivation for people to play the game. Marketing is non existent and the only hype there was about the game died a while ago. The game released and I never even noticed, even though I was searching everything and anything about it a year ago. In general it seems weird that the team got so much money from the backers but they never invested in marketing.
They probably thought that rts fans were desperate enough to do the marketing for them regardless. Womp womp for them.
The game just looks bad. I don't like the art. I don't like the world. I don't like the factions. How can it be improved? You have to start all over again.
and they didn't reacted to this critism early enough, its there own fault.
@@mido5126 maybe they're just not up to the task
On the store page they have a price you have to scroll to see the free option. The game is not in a finish product. They have competition
Dead rn? No. is it going to die? Yes obviously. The flaws in it's foundation is so clearly there that even giant games video about "the next major rts will fail" accurately discribe stormgate downfall. It's amazing how it took us years of discussion about the problem with the genre dying and the devs just think "hmm yes let's focus on 1v1"
Stop the shilling, it is dead. Player numbers dip down to 500 and dont even reach 1000 anymore.
They just released it with not enough stuff.
Campaign was disapointing, Co-op seems....well not that good compared to what other RTS offer (to not drop names).
The Balance is not perfect (which is understandable).
The reak Question for me is: How will they pull back the people that disliked the initial "bad" experience?
Going early access means there should be a decent game already. As of now, outside of some "ok-ish" PvP, there is nothing here.
Why would I play this, if there are a ton of other RTS out there?
Also like other comments already said:
Why is there not a free commander for Co-op for every race?
Why are there only so little free Campaign missions to tell you a story to draw you in?
If I dont care about the little story they give out for free (right now they didnt do it at all for me), why would I buy more campaign?
I am not invested into the "bad" charakters. Especialy the Charakter of the female faction leader (cant even remember her name) seems....unlikeable?
They have to flash out the campaign so far and also add more free campaign missions to flash out the charakters, so we care.
If they dont do that, Campaign will be a dead product. Why buy into it in hopes there is something good, if what you had so far felt crap?
As for Co-op: They can still release free commanders for every faction + have payed ones. So this can still be fixed easely and fast.
As for the PvP: People will figure out a meta, nerfs and buffs will come and in 6-12 months the balance will be good enough to be worth playing (again, compared to other older RTS that have figured out the balancing quite well).
They just promised so much for the game and delivered too little so far. They should have rather waited a bit longer and delivered more / a better product. That way more people would have checked it out and sticked around. As for now, there is not much there to play / do (if you are not hardcore into PvP)
not dead but needs a LOT of work and eating some humble pie/returning to the drawing board on some things.
As it stands out of the handful of RTS that are in development/upcoming right now, Stormgate is in the bottom half of that group IMO. They're really lucky they had some starcraft people supporting it or things would be much worse
Player count is dropping off a cliff, this game is DOA.
Die? It never lived.
Something to be mindful of is age of empires aint growing. Where this game as more of a live service can grow so even if it aint popular now it doesn't mean it cant grow into something many people really like. Even reading most peoples comments these changes are all things the game could get so I dont get why people so mad as if they expect the game to come out perfect. Even sc2 didn't really even pop off until the 2nd game lol.
Personally I am really excited to see some new starscraft replacements even though rts isn't the biggest genre I do think these game do have a really good experience for those that like it.
Sc2 came out and it wasn't pure disappointment
SC2 was amazing from the beginning, what are you talking?
Game is dead on arrival.
It's dead
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its dead... barely no one playing anymore
I enjoy the 1v1. Learning and getting better is rewarding
How about you put your efforts into sc2, aoe2 or aoe4? Which are better games and aren't dog shit
Game is dead man stop hoping 3v3 cant save it (and EA is just and excuse for bad product) ..Its just not good cant compete to AOE4 or AOE2 or SC2 or WC3 and now AOMR not even close to competitors..
And what is the fantasy Space marines with rail guns vs Diablo with swords and axes and 3rd faction i dont know what is it angels or robots its just all over the place ..
Game is like Touren in space marine suit and April fools joke..
For me SG feels so much better than all AoE games and WC3 also, only SC2 can compete
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Stormgate dead....
Will stormgate be free?
Yes
very dead
first
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I don't like the Amara character, she is very annoying.
they shoud not toutch any part of the game do 0 balance and upgrade until they fix all bugs, stormgate work great on specific hardware settings, it was probably created on similar ones, but PC is a challenge for many configurations and on most of them, both strong and weak, the game just likes to crash like that, and on weaker ones... well, multiplayer free to play rts, the amount of action or graphics in their current state do not justify the requirements to maintain a stable 30 fps.
let's look at lol which works to around being available to everyone or even starcraft 2 which is very nice but despite everything not only works smoothly but also allows drastic cuts that actually change something.
this game is currently barely playable due to bugs, and if you don't have a computer above average, you probably won't have a more enjoyable game even without bugs, so we exclude 50-55% of players.
There are so many out there saying nothing but ‘Nooo, Stormgate can't come out and be good! I will never let it kill my favourite RTS!’ or ’RTS is dead, don't make such a fuss about it, you're all wrong!’
just because people can't have fun with something anymore when other people dare to have fun with something else. especially when they might even have more fun than you do
Haha like i hoped storm gate died day 1
How come? You don't want a new great RTS game?
I think he wants a great RTS game...and that's why he is happy it's basically DoA. We shouldn't be trying to sell such mediocre trash to ourselves as "the next big RTS" because it isn't.
Roll on ZeroSpace and Immortal : Gates of Pyre.
ok blizz chud
@@FarmManOfficial-Stormgate wc3 sc2 hybrid with no innovation
And a campaign which is Arthas karaggan over watch hybrid with the most shitty looking art style ever is the cash grab that we all dont need and no matter how much money they throw on tournaments it wont help the game becauses artificial boost dont work
Wait for tempest rising and zerospace
What a joke when is the next big rts can be made inside sc2 engine easily and it will definitely look much better
dead game
Yoo this game where "women" have bigger arms than Dwayne the Rock Johnson.
I love the part where this dude says that devs are ultra specialists and veterans from blizzard who 100% compitent and know what they are doing so mb feedback isnt even needed... said that on a pile of crap which is on fire atm which is this game lol
Im having a great time playing 1v1
It was garbage, the gameplay was mid. It had nothing unique about it and the units are all plain. Except for the infernal thing that shoots an fire orb I though that is the only unit that is cool
Me too but we won’t sustain this company. They really dropped the ball here, they knew and said how important the casual crowd was. They launched with bare bones offerings for that crowd behind paywalls. Me and you, the 1v1 enjoyers are not the majority and we needed a healthy casual base for any real future here. I’d put money that this will fall off badly and you and I will struggle to find matches and recognize players on repeat soon enough.