What YouTubers Didn't Tell You about the Evergreen Miner
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- In this video I review the Evergreen Miner, a HDD miner which mines the cryptocurrency CHIA. It appears Evergreen sent free miners to many of your favorite UA-camrs several months ago and in exchange Evergreen received glowing review videos about how profitable, efficient, and low power these miners are. Convincing unsuspecting and/or naive viewers to purchase these miners with their affiliate codes. In this video I break down the true profitability of these devices and make the case why you will never recover your money if you purchase one of these devices, not even close.
I am not trying to make enemies with this video, so I did not call out any UA-camr specifically. But some of the Evergreen review videos are downright dishonest. Do better.
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Thanks for always keeping it real dude. I value your opinion on stuff like this. Sad some youtubers push this unit.
Thanks dude!
Exactly how I feel as well!
I purchased the unit a couple months ago; it took about 12 weeks to arrive. Once I got the unit, I was unable to power the device because of a damage power connector on the hard drive. I emailed the Evergreen and was told to fill out an RMA form. I have done this and now no one will reply back. I have sent multiple emails with no response. My advice is to invest your money into a different miner.
Thank you for the review. No FUD just the facts, good on you.
Thanks Paul, I try to tell it like I see it
Thats why I follow you! Real honest reviews. It's not all about the money. We deserve EVEN more followers and views. You will get them!! Keep up with the good work
Thanks Antonio, I appreciate your support!
Great analysis! I only purchased the starter to test it out. After watching your review, I don't think I'll add any units more unless the price outlook dramatically changes. Subscribed also.
thanks, good luck with your start kit!
real staff, short and consistent content, TY!
Thanks!
Thanks for clarifying, I was skeptic at first and was really considering buying but didn't know much about CHIA. Bringing numbers to the light helped me 100% make my decision.
Good to hear
Respect for no BS videos!!!🤘
Thanks!
Great analysis. I think for people who come with the argument that the price will drastically increase.. Just buy the token with the amount you wanted to spend on the device.
Yep
AAAnnnnnddd .... subscribed. It is this level of analysis and honesty I need in this world. Thank you.
awesome, much appreciated and welcome!
Great video I have been seeing a lot of people pushing these... Thanks for giving us an honest take!!!
Thanks!
I came to the same conclusion. I don't want to spend that much hoping CHIA goes was up to make it profitable anytime soon.
Agreed
Same bro I was going to put my yearly paycheck into it
Yes, it happened to GPU too. I stopped them last 4 years ago. @SwanCastleCryupto tell truth.
Thank you for this great analysis!
My pleasure!
I have one 16TB Evergreen miner. They were great helping me set it up. I happened to move during the migration to Space Farmers and when I got settled, couldn’t get it to migrate. Again, customer service was great until I got ghosted. I tore the thing apart and am going to download my own farming software to the Crapberry Pi and convert my gaming PC to a harvester. I’ll be creating my own plots from here on but this project is on the shelf until I get other projects running on their own.
Sorry to hear you had a bad experience, creating your own might be fun though
Honesty wins! Thank you. subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
Thanks for being straight forward...i want to get into mining slowly but dont wanna dop 5k+ on a rig when just starting out
For sure, best to take things slow, especially during a bear market
Very clear and well explained 👌👍
Thanks
You look at this the same way I do. I think many are just collecting coins, like an addiction, rather than trying to run a profitable business. I saw the same thing but hadn't run the numbers. Thanks for doing the work for me, you just earned a subscriber.
Thanks appreciate it
Thanks for mentioning the actual average electric rate here in the US. So many miner use “their” rate which in cases is lower than the average…
No problem, it really does distort things when you throw a $0.10 electric rate in when analyzing profitability
@@SwanCastleCrypto 100%
I haven’t done any videos on my new channel yet due to profitability & this market. Keep up the good videos👍🏻
Damn didn’t even think about it like that. Thank you for the review.
You’re welcome!
great analysis. thanks!
Thank you Renso!
Thanks for keeping it real brother. Sometimes i question these youtubers promoting these coins.
Thanks, always good to question
always good to find honest youtubers, got my sub
Thanks and welcome!
On a side note, I did like your video, details, presentation, thus you have earned another Sub.
Thanks man, appreciate it. And appreciate your other respectful comment
Thank you for making this video. I was wondering the profitability of the green miners.
You’re welcome!
You just safed me some money! Thanks!❤🙏
Good to hear!
Thanks u definitely have my subscription 😜🤗
Thanks and welcome!
Cheers mate. Might pan out during bull run when values increase? Still the per terabyte cost is high ! Great analysis
Yep it definitely might! Thanks
thank you for not being a shield thank you for your honesty thank you very much you'll be blessed in the long run
Thanks
Thanks for the info and video.
You bet!
Thanks for the video!! Do you think you could do one on the new Mini Doge 2 miner?
Thanks, yep I can do that
Can the CPU in the Evergreen miner handle compressed plot farming after the plot filter halving? maybe not!
Interesting
You got my subscription. I love people keeping it real.
Awesome, happy to have you 👍🏻
like the honest review. thanks!
Thanks Zheming!
I so appropriate your no BS videos. I was about to go deep into this project but then helium came out with new Mobile hotspots. I went deep into that instead. So dodged a bullet there. What are your thoughts on file coin?
Honestly I haven’t looked into it much, I’ll take a look though
Really nice video, thx for advice
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it
Finally someone giving real facts that benefits the many....keep it up bro
thanks!
Do your analysis at 7 cents per KWH.
Then do it at 3.
It's NOT common for people in average-or-higher electric rate areas to even TRY to mine any cryptocurrency.
But BOTH of those rates I mentioned can be achieved within the US - 7 is fairly common in many areas with lots of hydropower, 3 is a "best case" rate I could achieve a bit LOWER than by moving one county over from where I'm at now (though that would be with a senior discount, most folks would be more like 3.4 or so) into the county that has the lowest electric rates in the USA.
Really interesting thanks. In the UK electricity costs about $0.40-0.50 per kWh (2 to 3 times the cost you gave in your example) making this even less attractive as an investment.
Yep, I find it frustrating when other UA-camrs put in their $0.06 or $0.08 rates into profitability analysis’. Doesn’t provide much value to most watching
I've noticed that too, good video
Thanks!
I built my own PC to mine CHIA and it was a nightmare...to be effective you needed a high end CPU, loads of RAM, you needed M.2 SSDs and loads of external hard drives. It took AGES to plot and it was riddled with problems. I'm tech savvy but could not get my 8 externals all plotted...I eventually had 3 by the time I gave up. I was also there right at the start (aproximately) so take it with a grain of salt. However...I now have a kick ass PC and had sold my externals...the evergreen miner is just a low powered PC...hopefully optimized for plotting but I cant see how they would cram all that power into the "hub"...BUT you can probably resell the "expansion pack" which are just external hard drives covered in their green sleeves
Interesting, thanks for sharing
The evergreenminer disks are prefilled with plots, you don't need to plot yourself. You save a lot of time, power and frustration this way. The price may still be too high to make sense, though.
Very welcome alternative view!
Thank you!
Good review, I got the 16tb probly 6 months ago. Fun and spec, usable hardware later. As with many people, mine showed up needing the sd card reflashed, so I had to fix it before I even plugged it in.
I still don't know why people like Voskcoin are shilling these SO much. ROI = bleh, Maintenance = Arrgghh
$$$$
Thanks bro. You have explained amazingly. Love from Pakistan.
thanks!
ty for not shilling this and saying it for what it is. However looking at just impact analysis is just 1 side of the coin, the other ofc is expected value. Maybe your take on chia mid to long term would've been a nice addition to the vid.
I for one don't think chia will go anywhere big but hey that's just me.
That’s a good idea. I think almost every crypto isn’t going anywhere long term, but I know many have cult followings which will try to hang you for accusing as such. I will definitely look into CHIA more
I’m curious as to what you think is going somewhere long term is not crypto. Metals? New global reserve currency?
I’m not a big fan of metals. I don’t think the dollar will be replaced as the global reserve currency anytime soon. Given Bitcoin’s scarcity, I’m very bullish on it long term.
Wow. If I had any doubts before, I'm definitely no longer going to consider them, even with a bull run in the next year or so. Thanks for doing the math.
Yea I think there are a lot better risk reward opportunities out there
@@SwanCastleCrypto like what!? Pls tell me Pls
your analysis is spot on, youtubers are shilling this product like asic miners that a lot of poeple will never break even or not very much, i tried to install their software on my own devices and was not even able to do so , even their videos dont work , this project is going down the drain
I agree
Thank you for breaking this down.
You’re welcome!
I just follow you!
I saw another video a couple weekes ago!
I did the math wnd when a saw tens of years to roi I said nooo.
Also I pointed to a few youtubers that this is the most fragile think in a computer and can die after a year.
(I litteraly buyed a almost new 1TB hdd eith only 12 days of working and put it away for later use (not move it for one year) when I put it in a computer and after 2 day starting to have bad sectors😅
thanks for the follow! I wasn't aware they were also fragile, good point
@@SwanCastleCrypto yes profesional ones last longer but the others one are not made to work non-stop!
Thank you. I couldn’t tell what the people like Voscoin kept going in and on and on about this dam thing. The math never ever line up even close. It just doest mine enough actual shares to even come close to making sense as opposed to buying Chia
Likely a paid endorsement
Chia is a super nice project! They focus on B2B segment. They plan to create reversible transactions. They had a found round, however they did not give the tokens to the investors, as they are waiting for regulation rules. So it will pass regulation for sure, at least, it is after bitcoin on the probability to pass regulation without any problems. Now big whales accumulate I think.
Interesting, thanks for sharing
WHAT THE..! Wish I knew this before I got the starter and a 12Gb expansion. LUCKILY.. I have unlimited power with my rent. Rv on friends property with TWO 30a cords.. because I have 2 pc's running 24\7 on nicehash, 3 mini ASIC's, 1 BOBCAT 300, and these EVG's.. but the last 2 are OFFGRID running on my solar system.
If power costs isn’t a concern, which it sounds like you’re all set, then you’re good to go!
Also what you didnt take into account for is the new GPU compression plotting. that alone has made the chia space and pools grow in the last 2 months dropping prices. if you do it you can get about 30% more plots on a drive. ive asked evergreen how many plots do they get on a drive they were saying its a secret well a k32 is about 101.2 gb simple math i have not been a fan of theres and when voskoin came out with his own i know they were poop for sure and just money grab
Interesting, hadn’t heard of that
@@SwanCastleCrypto madmax came out with it its supported on a couple of pools use like a 3060 and 128gb ram and the plot takes around 2-5 min depending on the compression you are using the poor investor has covered it and chia said they are looking into at some point bringing it into there plotting thru the gui
Well seeing as compressed plots isnt officially supported yet(CPU and GPU compression/farming are in the works) i would assume Evergreen is still only using uncompressed plots so this means 166 plots on a 18TB drive. While I'm not advocating for Evergreens miners as the best solution, they are an easy way to get your foot in the door of a huge up and comer in blockchain tech. And correction in the last 2 months the price has gone up. What you may be meaning is that the network size has increased therefore dropping earnings, and while this could be the case, the network size has not increased so significantly that earnings is less than before. My suggestion would be to do better research and look at the well know and big names backing/developing Chia and of course the advanced tech they are bringing to the table.
really like your content. I have about $5000 to invest in mining what would you recommend ?
Thanks! I would get a DIMO and Hivemapper if you have a car, both very profitable and relatively inexpensive. I have recent videos covering each. I would try and diversify across a bunch of different miners. Can be very risky putting all into one miner/project.
4:11
There is no "last several years", Chia has only existed for a bit over 2 years at the moment.
But I do agree that the price trend (even excluding the "early days bounce") has been generally a slow down.
Hey Swan ! Different subject ..could you advise something if a Binance account has been blocked over a YEAR now for address verification ( UK user , huge account ) . Customer care is useless , we do twitter posts but no result ..trying to find legal way ..also not clear where and how ....very big problen with big reward if solved ...I mean big one ..
Sorry man I have no clue how to resolve issues with getting money out of exchanges. I haven’t used Binance in over a year now
I wish I knew what you meant by Terabyte, there is no way you have drives in ther ethat big and why would you . I think Im confused, Do you mean Tera hash?
Terabyte is a measure of disk space. Terabyte hash is different, that’s a measure of mining rate
The profitability is small, even with low electric costs - but that's true with ANY cryptocoin mining option today.
The NORM is many hundreds to a couple THOUSAND days to make back an investment in new crypto gear.
You did bring up the point that it can be cheaper to "roll your own" - but if you're using NEW drives (which almost nobody recommends) the costs aren't much better than that Evergreen Kit Pro 10-drive kit on a per-terabyte basis.
But Evergreen can't offer a warrenty on a system with USED drives in it.
Also, the plotting process DOES eat quite a bit of time - even if you shell out enough for a used SERVER that you can do GPU plotting entirely in RAM with (which is looking at an absolute minimum of 384 GB of ram for so you can buffer the output for max plotting speeds) that can manage to plot *1 drive* (or 2 if you insist on using SMALL drives like 6GB or 8GB) in a full day.
I think of these devices almost as the crypto version of a stock call option, where there's little current value but larger potential returns if the price were to spike. Having said that, it's a much safer play for most people to just buy the token if they believe in chia.
Good way to put it!
can you look at the fry miners ? many thanks.
I have several of the Fry miners which I have done reviews on. I have my concerns about the sustainability of their token and the use cases of some of the data they are collecting, but same could be said about almost every crypto mining project. I have made my money back on every one of their miners in only a couple months, so hard to be too critical at this point.
Good analysis. However, a halving is supposed to decrease supply which in turn increases demand for a single Chia. That being said, using a solid consistent price point for chia each halving creates a not true to life modle. I'd like another video giving some kind of percentage increase to chia coin price each halving to replicate real world events. :)
Fair points, I’ll look into that
You are so right. I have a 16TB starter kit. I'm going to sell it and get my money back. The RIP is just not there, thx
Roi SPELL check got me,
Good thing is demand for these things is high for some reason, so resale value should be high.
Frankly halvings have bit every project in the rear.
They really have
Straight truth gets my subscription.
Thanks and welcome!
I have been with Chia since the beginning, for full disclosure I do NOT use evergreen. The major selling point is the cost savings of a Plotter and the time savings, you really need to add that into your calculations as both the hardware for the plotter and time to plot savings needs to be added into your calculations. The evergreen miners can save someone new to Chia @ $1,000 USD for hardware, plus weeks or even months (depending on how many Tib or PiB you purchase) You would also need to add the power savings from not having to plot into your calculations. Once again, I am not paid by, related to in anyway or even use Evergreen, I just wanted to point out these missing details in your calculations.
I was not doing a cost comparison between DIY and Evergreen, but true you would have to factor those aspects in if you were.
Imagine what this Pro kit will cost in the next run..... remember HNT miners 3-5k each for a 300$ device....
Bear markets are when you build out.
We shall see!
I totally did the cost analysis and the ROI on those miners multiple times and it just doesn't make sense to buy
Agreed
Honest analysis.
Thanks
Man, and I bought an Evergreen v2 6T as my first miner. How sad.
Learn from your mistakes
Assuming that the price will stay the same
Also it depends on how many is your electricity bill
Thanks. I am running a evergreen farm. I hear you but it's highly speculative. I don't do these kinds of projects with any idea of getting rich quickly. I have a 5-year plan and so I have about 3.5 years before I'm looking at where these sits. My first goal is make $1.00 per day. Then, more, but my pension is less by a dollar a day now than last year. Between mining and staking, I'm making close to a buck a day. So, I just HODL my stuff. I have sold some things for 2x in the past year or so. Fantom, Shib, Helium but I held too long, didn't make as much as I could have. It's fun and keeps the old mind going:) IF it goes up even to $230/coin, it will be nice. THANKS
Good luck to you sir, nothing wrong with a little speculation.
supposing I have free electricity is it profitable that way ? I would appreciate your honest opinion, thank for the video...!
Im about to buy some miners and doing as much research as I can, what would be your your choice if buying any new miners ? Thanks a lot
Yes it would be profitable if you have free electricity. But if you have free electric, you should be running one of the big ASICS.
Profitability is all over the place at the moment, not many miners are consistently profitable. Check out DIMO, I did a video on it last month, super easy to earn, low cost to get in, and very profitable.
i have been mined chia now 1,5 years and its most easiest token to mine. I see evergreen miners are plug and play devices and its very easy to join chia network with them. Also i live in europe where we dont have second market hdd's so prices are very good on evergreen miners. gonna future maybe some. :)
Best wishes to you and your chia mining 👍🏻
Sounds like a worse version of helium 😬😬🙄🙄
Higher cost with less upside lol
Thank you for your analysis. My mini grin miner is cheaper and more profitable!
Mine is too haha!
What a waist of money. Gave mine away for a dollar.
I bought the 3000 kit. It makes me 30 dollars a month. In 10 years it'll be paid off 😅
😂
First off plotting/farming on your own hardware is not hard at all, it only requires you to install the Chia client and in a few clicks you are plotting/farming your own drives. You know what they say about assuming(you do alot of this in your video) but i'm going to assume that most people that are here for "News" related to cyrpto mining probably have more than capable hardware to plot at a decent pace. Not to mention GPU plotting/farming is just around the corner, this will more significantly reduce the time to plot drives. While I understand your video was meant to correct the "misconception" that the Evergreen miners specifically are as profitable as some of the recent UA-camrs would have you believe, the video surely comes off as FUDing Chia in general. Sure these guys either got those miners for free or very cheap and thats between them and Evergreen. How they make their money is their business. The Evergreen miners are meant to be a quick and easy, not necessarily the cheapest or most profitable way to get into Chia farming. I would encourage you and your followers to look more into Chia, its developers and team, and the awesome technology they are brining into the world of crypto and blockchain and then make a decesion on whether it's worth your time and investment. Do not look at how some people on UA-cam have decided to try and make some profits but do your own research.
Wasn’t trying to knock the Chia project. Just shedding some light on Evergreen profitability (or lack thereof).
@@SwanCastleCrypto Also I understand it may be difficult but looking at where the price was at launch and where it is now is just not an acurate picture of its true value. What you have to understand is that leading up to the coin launch XCH was extremly overhyped and shilled(not by the devs) and this caused the price to be at an extremely over inflated value at launch. The project leader afterall is one of the best known names in internet technology, Bram Cohen(developer of P2P torrent tech). It has of course since corrected. The devs had estimated the price per coin to be around $20 USD at launch. This just gives you a picture of how grossly inflated it was. I'm not going to lie and say I didn't profit off of that. I had 2 XCH at the time from farming only 20 plots over a couple weeks before launch and at lauch was able to sell for ~$1600 a piece. This was all straight profit as I was farming on an old 3770k system with just a few low TB drives that i had already. This allowed me to expand my farm without dipping into my own money, at least at the time. I've since expanded to 1/2PiB. The price has been very stable since reaching the bottom and a steady/healthy increase has been observed which correlates with the news and advancements they continue to make to the tech.
Thanks for the background, to be honest I knew very little about Chia before making this video. I will definitely do more research.
I had a look at these and it's not worth it. The chance of hitting a block is low as it uses a raspberry pi and the drives used inside are recertified. I checked the board connected to the hdd and it is identical to Western Digital MyBook's.
Thank you, that is very helpful!
SSD’s will get wrecked with this as the lifetime of the drive will be reduced over time. HDD’s with the speed needed for this are massively expensive. Fast, long life SSD’s are also massively expensive. Unless the Chia price doubles every halving none of the devices will ever make money
Good points
European electic rate is so much worse. I was tempted to get one of the Evergreen miners until I saw it was taking 3 years to pay back IGNORING the electric bill. Working on building a small farm myself but its taking so long for the node to synch and plotting wil take forever too. Still a fun project but the Evergreen miners are not the way to go. Gonna stick with the prsearch nodes
Yea I have heard about European electric rates, basically make mining anything impossible. I love my presearch nodes!
I’ve lived in various countries over the last couple of years, Europe has some of the lowest electricity costs compared to: Panama USD 0.22c/KWh, USA averages half that. Spain goes down to UER 0.02c on Sundays. It’s not the cost of electricity,it’s what you can earn mining that is the deciding factor
it has a 4-5 year ROI which is double that of the S&P 500...
Incorrect
I have one of these and it gets 1/3 of the earrings they claim on there website
Wow first I’m hearing of that…another reason to stay away
It's so amazing how someone can make a video using the exact words of other you tubers who say the same thing as far as profitability but tell you this is what they are doing. However they are accused of scamming you, yet in their videos they say you are making less profit, and evergreen is only great for the convenience of those tho don't want to or have time to plot their own farmers. BTW: Notice the affiliate code only gives you a discount on the original price and does not increase the price. Yes the you tubers get a kickback, but none of them have said anything different from what Swan Castle is saying. Before you smear others pay attention to what they say and what you are saying. That's how you keep it real.
Maybe you should watch some of the other videos, because that is not the explanation I heard by any that I watched. Who exactly did I smear?
You're showing Elec Rate $0.015 which is 1.5 cents. You're Total Monthly is correct if its 15w an hr times 24hrs x 30 days is 10,800w / 1000 is 10.8 x $0.15kWh rate = $1.62
Yep just an input error in my spreadsheet, calculated expense is correct
The Evergreen Miners are for people who don't know and/or don't want to know how to mine Chia.
true
Vosk did some content and that brought me here as part of my research. Worth the investment? Going off your figs Nopes !
Any potential? Maybe
Is it going to generate a nice return? Possibly
Is it not just easier to buy and hold a decent crypto instead. ? Sounds a better investment!!!!
Although I’ll hang around here and sub maybe get a few solar panels and do an power friendly off grid setup .😵💫🇬🇧
Welcome!
👍
I personally think this is a overpriced “miner” just so u can have a plug n play miner. Hard drives are also known to stop working over a couple of years. I found that out when I was thinking of making my own chia miner so I scraped that thing when looking a hours of videos trying to find the most bang for my buck
Agreed
It'll eventually become obsolete to be worth it.
Haha
I came to the same conclusion.
Good to hear
0:03 CPU Miners? Chia is Harddrive mined via Proof of Space and Time
Oops
This makes me sad. Vosk has been known to push these and he norm is good at saying what is profitable and not.
That’s too bad, I generally like his content
So am i missing something here. If someone invest in crypto they expect the price to go up. It doesn't matter what coin you hold and if it has a halving or not. The markt moves with BTC. So the halving of BTC has the most impact until this date. If people invest in evergreen miners or just harddisks they also expect the price to go up. And it is logic that the price only wentt down hill after the bullrun in 2021. BTC has a 4 year cycle. And in the bear market every coin goes down. So i think if chia goes up for example to $800,00 (not even the highest point you will get break even much faster. So did you do your calculations based on the current price? Because than i understand you will not get to break even.
99% of crypto tokens are going to zero. If you think the BTC halving is going to save your crypto, you’re going to be sadly disappointed.
@@SwanCastleCrypto Hi. That's what they said in 2017. How long must i wait until 99% will be gone. Please do not be a maxi. Btc is only good for store of value. They are a lot off projects doing great stuff. I understand that not all projects will make it but this is the same with businesses arround the world. Some make it and some not. Also it is possible that the btc halving does not aply forever and it will not save all crypto. But all coins move up when btc does. So if btc hits a New all time high in 2025 and my coins still excist in 2025 than the possibility is that they are up too.
Not trying to be a BTC maxi, just being realistic that most all projects are unsustainable ponzi's. I think the assumption you can just buy a coin and wait a few years and you'll make a bunch of money is flawed. Maybe CHIA has long term potential, my point of my video was not to bash on the project, but more highlight the limited profitability that most all others glossed over.
@@SwanCastleCrypto So i am not a chia fanboy. I do not even hold chia. I was curious about the project and especially the mining option. So i do not mind if you bash the project and i do understand your point with the video. I just disagree the break even calculation. You are right. And i do not assume that i make a bunch of money. But there is a upportunitiy it could make me more money than i put in.
fair enough, I can see how my breakeven calc logic is somewhat flawed.
Isn't 15 cents .15, not .015?
yea it was a typo in my spreadsheet, but the electric expense amount I calculated is accurate
Yea...i laugh so hard at Vosk promoting this crap
😂😂
seems better to just buy chia if you are a true believer
Yes most likely the better option
i will build my own chia miner with 328tb for 600 $ ( all parts ordered already ). I hope my hdd will not get on fire because no name shit from asia 🙂. I will let you know how it goes 🙂
That’s awesome, yes let me know how it goes!
lol wish I would have watch this before I went and bought the starter kit . Oh well another lose for me
Sorry to hear that, but maybe I’ll be wrong?
Chia was a bust....i jumped all in at the beginning getting my farm all the way up to 2 petabytes of plots. Sure, i hit solo blocks and made money, but never even came close to breaking even. Now i have downsized my farm to 1070 plots and i really just break even every couple month meaning i make enough to pay costs. One thing to take into account is the hhd's will never last long enough to come close to breaking even so you have hdd replacement costs as well to factor in. Chia, Helium.....both money losers.
Good point on the replacement costs
Please teach me how your doing it
sounds to me like investing into this is a money pit with little to no gain if your starting late in the game
Timing is everything with any investment