Is Alex The Worst Marriage Candidate In Stardew Valley?
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- Опубліковано 15 лип 2022
- Alex scored at the very bottom of my marriage polling. Was it deserved? Let's talk about it.
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I always liked that Alex actually addresses the whole "gay" aspect if you date him as a male farmer, makes him feel more...real, I suppose? It bums me out that there isn't a similar feel with any other male marriage partner.
I wish the females would do that, they don't seem to ever acknowledge it.
Elliot is real sweet and wasn't sure if you were actully gay or not. Which is an experience I relate to
There’s that with Leah, if you’re a male farmer she says you’re the only she’s been attracted to or something.
I have definitely known women like that. Mostly lesbian except for that ooonnneee dude that checks all the boxes. No pun intended.
Elliott and Sebastian also have special 10-heart dialogue if you romance them as a guy. I’m not sure if any of the girls have that kind of dialogue for the female farmer though, besides Leah in her 2-heart event, unfortunately. I wish they all did.
I've always seen Alex as a closet gay man dealing with a ton of internalized homophobia. His arc just makes more sense if the player is a man
this!!!! especially that "you're not like other guys, you're more sensitive" line in his 8 heart event!!!
I've seen this sentiment a lot! Alex's story is the only one where I feel like there are two characters at play depending on if you're a man or woman. Because he can obviously be very happily married to a woman farmer. Maybe I'm just doing mental gymnastics. 🤷♂️
I wouldn't be surprised if ConcernedApe had originally planned for Alex to be in the closet with his story arc, as Alex's dialogue seems to change the most out of any of the marriage candidates I've seen based on the farmer's gender. But it would be a bit odd to break the playersexual formula only for Alex, so that's probably why if I had to guess.
You could even read his line about the player marrying Haley as him being in the closet, as he says it's a chance for him to learn something about himself. Perhaps he'd been expecting to settle down with Haley at some point and used that as an excuse not to examine any confusion he had about his sexuality.
@@lexslater2747 I also seem to recall him having a piece of dialogue about Sebastian early on that can be read about him being perhaps a little bit attracted to him. It definitely stood out to me that it could lean in that direction at any rate.
Looking at how much his stuff stands apart from the other marriageable characters it makes me wonder if he was actually supposed to be a marriage candidate at first. His story reads much more as Shane's does and Shane also didn't start out as a marriage candidate. Perhaps he was supposed to be an NPC with a coming-out storyline before he was shifted to being a marriage candidate making that side of romance more impactful because of it. Even George's dialogue would fit this.
There's also the fact that in the Winter he goes somewhere that player can only access if they're male. None of the other marriage candidates have this. Unless their house is closed you can reach them no matter where they are as long as you have two hearts with them.
@@amygirl5678 There’s a lot to be said with Alex about compulsive heterosexuality, potentially biphobia as well as homophobia (in an admittedly gay-specific way that cuts out most of the bi part, hence why CA might’ve dropped it if that was ever the intent), or it could have always been about subtle hints that he could be interested in guys so that male players could be more comfortable in pursuing him. Plus, the fact that the possible NPC love interests he had were Haley and with that bit of dialogue Sebastian really give me some queer vibes. Haley’s got some similar compulsively hetero behaviour; Sebastian’s receptive to any love he lets in and is quite social sometimes despite his closed off nature, the direct opposite as Alex turns out to be.
Honestly, there’s a lot of things you can read into some of the characters with regards to sexuality that are unexplored expressly so we can read into them ourselves, so I can see the ambiguity being intentional. Maybe that makes it seem more real or just superficial, I’m not a perfect judge for that. It gives some credit to your wondering whether he was meant to be marriageable originally, but it would make sense for that story to happen with a male player 🤷 everyone being interested in the player whoever they are throws a wrench in that
I feel like Alex’s entire character is basically built for someone playing as a male farmer.
i have 2 kind of main accounts, one as a girl and one as a boy, and during the winter (you probably already know this) sometimes he has a dialogue that goes like this "you came all the way through the snow to see me? that's nice of you." if you're a guy, and if you're a girl he'll say "you came all the way through the snow to see me? I guess that makes sense." its honestly really disappointing that he's SO different to you if your farmers a girl
@@summerstolemyheart Oh wow. I never payed much attention to him with my female farmers because of the casual misogyny, but the initial differences when I had a male farmer made me give him a second look. I never talked to him enough with a female farmer to get that dialogue, although I did get it as a guy. That difference is staggering, and pretty gross tbh. I really enjoy his growth when paired with a male farmer. Not enough to put him on my list of favourites. But enough to make me appreciate his character a bit more. To see from others just how much less growth he gets with a female farmer is sad.
@@summerstolemyheart I actually got the first one playing as a girl lol
@@LauHerondale huh! that might be kind of rare, then? because i got the "that makes sense" dialogue every single time
@@summerstolemyheart Yeah, it might be that xD
My favorite thing about having Alex as a husband is that he still goes into town at least once a week to spend a day with his grandparents. He also brings scraps from the farm for his dog Dusty. It's nice to see that he's still involved with his family. Plus Evelyn is a sweetheart, I'm so happy to have her as my grandma.
George and Evelyn are sooo sweet before AND after you marry Alex! I played as a female farmer when marrying him, and I could never forget when George told me he was really happy bc his grandson married a beautiful girl (or something like that, I can't remember properly)
@@Glascheit George will say some homophobic stuff to male players but will admit he was wrong if you get him to max hearts. Thankfully you can avoid seeing it by maxing out George's hearts before you propose, then he'll just say he thought it was strange at first but sees how you two are in love and has changed his mind. George is one of my favorite characters, I wish there were more people like him in real life who are willing to reconsider their biases.
@@OutlawGrrl Oh yeah! I agree.
My grandparents are really sweet, but sometimes they say homophobic stuff that makes me a bit sad to hear. I understand that things were different back then, but that's not an excuse to keep saying these things!
What I'm trying to say is that it's really, really cool that George changed his mind, mainly because nowadays it is not very common for elderly people to accept LGBTQ+ relationships!
@@Glascheit We should remember that it's a privilege to grow up with more exposure and tolerance to different things than they did. It's not easy to understand something if you've been told it's wrong your entire life.
@@vanyadolly Yes, yes! You're totally right.
And this is why Alex ranks near the top of gay men's favourites and bottom of everyone else's.
SO TRUE!!!! THATS SO REAL ACTUALLY
I hope the "top/bottom" joke was intentional, it gave me a good laugh! XD
I can confirm..
im still deciding between the emo boy and him
true! as someone who plays a female farmer, i always thought alex was just a sexist.
I wish that, just like how Alex unlearns his homophobia, he got to unlearn his sexism if you’re a woman. I feel like I wouldn’t be so detached from him if he did that
I think this would put him in the same realm as Haley for best redemption arcs.
definitely. i’ve heard that he changes after marriage, but that seems weird. why would anyone as a female player marry him when he’s still sexist even at the 10 heart mark? it’d be best if he changed BEFORE even the 8 heart event! i guess that’s why alex usually doesn’t appeal to women as he appeals to gay men.
@@williansouza8724 tbf most of the characters change after marriage, they become boring house spouses 😭
Nah, let him be the gay pick
@@williansouza8724 as a forever Alex spouse, even as a female farmer as you get more hearts he becomes nicer and apologizes for being rude before. I don’t feel like he “changes” after marriage, it flows for his character. In his heart event in the beach, when he talks about having no family and his mom, after marriage some of his dialogue lines are like “this is the family that I always wanted, thank you.” All or most of his dialogue is really complimentary and encouraging - at least he’s never said anything negative to me 🤷🏻 I think that when it comes to fitting into the farm life, Alex is a great spouse for that. He spends a day or two with his grandparents every week which I think is sweet, and his 14 (?) heart event is really cute too, George, Gus, Shane, Kent, and Alex all watch gridball together and will yell stuff excitedly and idk it’s nice, it feels like a more community vibe. Maybe I’m biased, but imo he’s the best spouse (except Leah because Leah is a goddess)
I wish theyd given him more character growth for if your character is female. Would've been nice to see him learn that the way he treated girls wasnt actually that great
The fact that he still does the salad thing at his 8-heart event is really unfortunate. It doesn't exactly inspire you with confidence to get married, which is the only step forward available to you at that point. I wish he could have some sort of revelation about how he treats women *before* you get married.
Yep! Honestly i believe ConcernedApe is misogynstic, why he gives so much less to female players??
@@moonamoonz of course i can’t say that the guy is not misogynistic because i don’t know him, but maybe he fails more at delivering to female players because he is a man? he did make the game all by himself. does that make sense?
@@moonamoonz
i doubt it, he probably just didn’t know how to write for girls since he’s a guy, kinda like how i have difficulty writing for guys cuz i’m a girl
@@moonamoonz that is a VERY bold assumption to make wtf
If I'm being honest I kinda appreciate that not everyone in this town is a perfect person in every social aspect, because at least to me, it makes things seem more realistic and it gives a lot of growth to some characters that at the beginning are not the nicest people.
We cannot expect everyone to have the same education or knowledge as most people because not everyone had the chance to. And seeing those people that seemed kinda rude at the beginning opening up to new possibilities, and being nicer, is honestly very rewarding
Definitely! Seeing someone become a better version of themself is incredibly rewarding.
I would argue that character growth is more interesting (to me) than an already developed character.
✨THIS✨! Yes, perfectly well said! Flaws make characters WAY more enjoyable, especially if they learn from them.
This ^^
This is why I had a hard time with the new rune factory.
Gameplay its amazing… but they throw big booba loli cat girl “eye candy” with 0 depth at you over and over and over.
It was kinda easy to ignore in RF4, but RF5 made it impossible to not feel like a total degen playing it - and to top it off, everyone who isnt a male is entirely uninteresting and boring with totally fake “flaws” of “being clumsy” “being sleepy” or “having a sweet tooth” and pretty much thats it.
Yeah everyone but Pierre and Lewis are good bc of their flaws. Pierre and Lewis are only flaws and aren’t even trying to fix it, those boogers…
I like Alex. I’d attribute his dumb, macho behavior in part to having had crappy male role models (I love George because he’s an irascible old coot, but, still), and in part because he has grown up idolizing professional gridball players, who are no doubt lionized in the “Today we interview Jim Bexley Speed, top attacker in the world, about his throng of adoring girlfriends!” style. Once you’ve chipped away at that nonsense, you see him as a sensitive guy worth knowing, who’s just presenting what he thinks is an appropriate front to the world.
Good video as always!
This 10,000% and he only continues to get better after marrying the farmer.
Lol, agreed! Also, thank you for introducing me to a new word, "irascible". Gotta use that more often, lol.
Nice Red Dwarf reference there 😃
The fact that his dad was abusive and he lost his mom and he isn't a shitty person is already a big deal. He could have easily gone Shane's route of addiction. I want to give him the family life he never got. also what's the big deal about him being dumb? I find intelligence (as a factor for attraction) to be just as superficial as looks. And I say that with a doctorate degree and an 147 IQ (It means nothing) What's more important is if they're a good person.
my favorite alex dialogue is when he suggests discussing "phi-lo-so-phy"
Alex has always been my favourite character. Even on my first ever playthrough, there was just something about him that drew me to him. I agree that he definitely works better for playing as a male farmer (I've never played as a female farmer so I didn't really know about his more sexist comments early on, I suppose) and it does definitely show more of a character growth in him. He's not perfect but with the right guidance, he can learn and does so (again, more so if you play male lol). I think he's genuinely a sweet guy, he just hasn't had exactly the 'right' people to look up to, for lack of a better saying?
Everyone needs exposure to more types of people, Alex is a really good example of that to me. Thanks for your thoughts!
Alex is exuding fatherless behavior
@@terrarianangel8274 The way this can't ever be denied lol
So much agreement! I'm honestly starting to think the real reason I like Alex is because he radiates a bit of HIMBO energy. Not a lot, but some. I guess I truly am a sucker for that "archetype", lol. 😁 Also, I love your Haikyuu pfp. It is one of my top comfort animes of all time. 💕
@@sadtitties222 Agreed, when you romance him he kind of goes full himbo mode and I love that for him
I’ve never done a marriage route, but Alex is absolutely my favorite marriage candidate. I really hated him at first because of some of the stuff he said to me, but George was my best friend so I found myself talking to him often while I was there. Then one rainy day I got his cutscene with Dusty and was suddenly intrigued. Nit forgiving, just wanted to know some more. I ended up giving him the eggs I had to spare and seeing all of his heart events within the year. The one where he apologizes to the player is my favorite cutscene in the game, there’s just something so impactful about his progression as a character. Maybe it helps a little that I actually got his cutscenes out of order (with eight hears being the second one I got, five the third, and six the fourth) but that’s besides the point haha. I think it kind of gets into why I was a Shane hater for a long time. Shane, and honestly quite a few characters in the game, serve a bit of a savior complex. They’re broken, but the player can “fix” them. I really hate that sort of dynamic, it feels one-sided and unhealthy. Alex, on the other hand, is someone who is inspired by the player to work on himself. You don’t see the offscreen moments of realization and betterment that you might with other characters, but when you stop by every day you see the effects bit by bit.
thats a very nice way to put it, i had never thought about it like that with shane and alex
And that’s why he’s my favourite bachelor in stardew
I would argue Shane isn't a complete serve to a savior complex fantasy as based on his dialogue where's he makes an attempt to end his life. The farmer has the option to bring up his niece and how she would be affect or has been affected by his self destructive behavior and upon the realization that his spiriling is hurting those he cares about he shows genuiene regret. In my opinion it more that the farmer was able to be the cataylst to Shane's self-improvement.
Now I will admit it possible I intrept his arc differently because I saw myself in Shane somewhat luckily I wasn't as self destructive as him due to me having a decent support group something Shane seems to be lacking as Marnie doesn't seem to understanding to Shane's depressive episodes- although this maybe due to the fact I've never been motivated to get high friendship levels with Marnie so I have a limited perspective of her. Regardless the point I'm attempting to make is that self-improvement is often difficult without some sort of person or people to support you as it's a non-linear path that can have many points of relapse. I know that relapses often made my perception of all my hard work feel nonexistant so I can only imagine the same can be said for Shane.
I really think Shane just need someone outside his living situation to truly bond with to get that much needed wake up call.
Really hope this doesn't come as argumentive I just have a lot of things to say regarding his character and wished to share my own insights.
Also in a semiunrelated note I'll conceed to the fact he's not the best marriage canidate as all his pervious progress within the game seem to disappear. While I know from experience the struggle of fighting depression is difficult, his pessimistic outlook returning within most of his after marriage diaulogue was difficult to to read every ingame day and wished that the progress from 10 hearts event carried onwards into marriage.
@@deadaccount7107 I like you. I'm glad to finally see someone who understands and feels for Shane the way I do. I loved Shane from the very beginning and there was just something about him. And I was especially drawn to the fact that he hasa daughter. Yes Jas is his GODdaughter. But he and Marnie are the ones raising her because her parents are out of the picture for some reason. The 2 of them are all she has now so Shane is basically like her dad. And god knows he loves her the way a dad would and that makes me love him more because I love children, a person who also loves children definitely has goodness in them. And I think that actually might have been interesting in this game. Having a marriageable NPC who is a single parent already. Giving the players a chance to see what it's like dating and marrying a single parent would be nice.
@@deadaccount7107 Thanks for sharing your thoughts, that's really interesting!
I never played a female farmer but after a wedding with Alex I hear George say it's weird for two guys to get married so.. I could see where he would get it from 😭
George has a redemption arc if you reach 10 hearts with him! He changes his mind about it
I’ll admit it, if I wasn’t going through same feelings as Shane on my first play through, I’d have chosen Alex. I liked his backstory and his changes. I felt like he was the stereotypical jock character who was never taught to just be himself or confide in others. Idk his age, but compared to the other candidates. He doesn’t really hang out with those around his age. It’s primarily just his grandparents
He feels like he's in a weird age limbo to me. He doesn't look as young as some candidates, but he's focused on sports like he's a high school team captain? I dunno. Hard to get a feel for him.
@@Leapalot To my mind, Alex is slightly older than the Sam/Sebastian/Abigail group, but only by a year or two. He and Haley are about the same age, I think.
@@neiltheblaze but my worry is how old is Maru? Sebastian is supposed to be significantly older than Maru by at least a year since his mom had her with her second husband. Everyone in the game has to be old enough to drink cause I doubt they would put underage drinking the game. So if Sebastian, Sam, and Abigail are at least 21 how old is Maru. That would mean Maru is only 20 at the most. And if Sebastian is a few years older than her she might be underage....that's why I don't feel right about dating her. As much as I like smart girls I just can't see her that way.
@@Leapalot The more negative view of him could be he 'peaked in high school' and hasn't moved on despite getting older.
@@truthseeker9249 Abigail is in college (confirmed in dialogue) She could be 21, 22, we don’t know. Maru and Sebastian are pretty close in age, I think this is how they line up age-wise
Sebastian: the oldest, could be anything over 21 (I’d say 21-26 seems like a reasonable age range, although I mainly see him as being 24 years old)
Abigail: second youngest, let’s say 22 (finishing college depending on the degree)
Sam: freshly 21 (youngster for sure)
And then Maru: maru could really be any age over 18, I’d say she’s around 20 or 21 . It depends on what age you think Sebastian is, (which I think he’s older for reference)
Hope it helps!
Alex was raised by two elderly people in a small town. Of course he would struggle with gender roles at first. He means well, and that’s the important thing❤
That’s what I’ve been thinking. If you’re raised solely but your grandparents a majority of your life, you’re bound to sorta pick up their beliefs time to time. I do feel the more you bond with him, the more he expands his horizons past what his family believes and that’s beautiful.
And with him early in life being in an abusive home probably with not only an abusive dad but a secist and misogynistic one and it probably left a little imprint on him
He reminds me a lot of my boyfriend he's very sporty but he was also raised by strict christians so he did hold some kinda sexist views as a teenager. But he is not a mysoginist at all and treats me well.
I’m happy he treats you well after all that!! I grew up in a strict christian environment too but I’m a woman. The misogyny is so bad… Idk how serious your relationship is but just in case you didn’t know marriage and pregnancy can trigger any toxic religious conditioning to kick in again because a lot of the toxic beliefs are specifically about marriage and family! Sadly recovering from being brought up that way can be a long process and I know that even if you don’t mean to you can hurt people along the way. I wish I’d known that marriage can trigger that stuff and found extra support when I got married so I want to make sure you’re aware in case you ever need to know!
i personally think if he had a different role model maybe not george then he would be so much different and not say all those things to the female farmer
His father probably had more to do with that than George, tbh.
He also has Evelyn...
@@ellap6828 If anything Alex and George show the sole flaw of Evelyn. That being her lack of backbone. Her unconditional love allows George to stay the same shitty way and that spreads to Alex initially.
Not trying to come off as rude, but I don't like the cliché narrative that gets thrown around about you suddenly becoming a bad person just because you had a tough life or didn't have the right role model, it comes off as pathetic in a way.
I know a lot of characters/people who grew up in a crappy environment but are the kindest, caring, compassionate and loving people out there.
I know what Concernedape was trying to go for when writing Alex as a character, but if I'm being honest, he kinda comes off as a spoiled (probably bigoted) brat.
Yes I know he had a tough life when his mother passed, and his grandfather was probably being an abusive old coot, but Alex fails to focus on the positive of things of his life that many more TRAGIC people could've beged for.
He still has a loving, caring grandmother, Evelyn (Who is kinda underrated imo), he is very skilled at sports and could become a champion if he tries hard enough, he has a dog that also loves him very much, do I need to go on?
Tl;DR: No hate to the Alex fans, but I feel like he comes off rude for no apparent reason even though his mother passed. He just fails to look at the good things he has in life that the more TRAGIC people don't...
Also why does Alex have to come off as half misogynistic? Like seriously, what did women do to him that made Alex make rude, often weird comments specifically to them?
At least with Shane he just look like he hates everyone, not just a specific group of people. I honestly feel like Shane is the superior "Tragic, A-whole-esqe but kind person when you get to know him character"....
I’m definitely in the camp of “Alex grows on me platonically, but I don’t vibe with him on a romantic level,” especially after the saloon dinner where he orders me a salad without my input. It would be different if an earlier cutscene/interaction had me answer what my favourite food is and he orders that-a show that he cares and paid attention to what I said, maybe even during a point where he’s still in the headspace that men and women are “separate beings.”
As you said, his arc feels more impactful if you’re a male farmer, and I do think that’s cool! He obviously resonates with many people, especially as he becomes more vulnerable about his abilities and his feelings. For me, it is nice to reach a place with Alex where he trusts me to not make fun of him or belittle him for not “upholding hegemonic masculinity.” But that vulnerability never hits the “romantic switch” in my brain.
He’s definitely an underrated character given the extent of his character growth from 0 hearts to 8-10 hearts.
I mean, is really stated by the game that it was Alex who ordered for you? I would also love to eat some real meat in the game, but it looks like the farmer is... pescatarian?
Dude yeah if I was a woman no matter what I'd dropkick his ass
@@mado-wh4jv It’s not, Emily just arrives with the food. For all we know the farmer ordered the salad and CA just thought it was more feminine but it’s more popular to dunk on Alex than the game developer
He reminds me fully of my bf except my bf likes thick women and would never order me a goddamn salad unless I wanted one
@@MissSchnickfitzel Have fun with your chronic constipation!
alex's post marriage lines if you are playing as a guy are also so cute and wholesome, Alex as a character just fits so much better and his problems fixed if you marry him as a guy (unlike shane that is)
yeah, to be fair shane was made marriageable later on, and with the characters who were made marriageable later on (him and emily), it feels like they didn’t put much thought into how making them marriageable would mess with the progression of other events.
For emily, even after marrying her, you can still get Clint’s event where he asks for advice on how to hit on her even though she’s your wife. And with Shane, his arc is fairly sweet so i still like him even if some of his post-marriage dialogue and his attached room kinda toss it out the window, and whenever i go for the Shane route i usually just cap it at having him as a boyfriend and have krobus as a roomie instead lol
Alright did we sign up for Shane slander?
@@basilbat273 I don't know, I wasn't there when people vote to date an depressed alcoholic for some reason.
@@nidohime6233 ouch-
@@nidohime6233 damn my feelings just got hurt real bad
honestly i feel like calling alex worthless is one of the cruelest dialogue options you can choose in the game, there's some pretty harsh things you can say but that one's probably the worst
Suddenly I understand why all my friends who played as girls couldn't stand Alex even though he was my favorite marriage candidate
I really like Alex for 2 reasons not really discussed in this video
1. Most marital candidates can be categorized by their aspirations/independence. As you brought up with the Abigail video this can put the younger characters in a strange place where when they marry it sort of feels like they’re being stunted, while for the older/established characters it can feel like a more natural part of their life, Elliot is still writing, Leah is still sculpting, etc. I’m going to call Shane, Alex, and Penny the big three exceptions to this rule as Penny’s primary aspiration seems to be having a family--so mission accomplished if she has kids with the farmer-Shane is in the midst of a crisis and his marriage story is much of a savior story, the farmer supporting him with their love--and Alex
As you brought up, Alex’s story is one in which the garner teachers him to be vulnerable and emotionally expressive in a healthier way, that benefits his own well-being and also dampens his macho put-on, unlike many of the other marital characters Alex’s aspiration is one that he *overcomes* through dating and marrying the farmer. Being a football star is part of his quest to prove his worth-if he’s good at football he has to be good enough to prove himself by going pro. In-game this is sort of teetered as a ridiculous or unrealistic goal. Abigail wants to fight monsters and do magic in a world and town where both things are possible and not uncommon but Alex wants to somehow become a professional athlete despite seemingly not being affiliated with any school or minor leagues. He’s not even on a team. He’s not actually working towards a goal as much as coping with his sense of inadequacy.
But through the farmer’s relationship Alex learns to unhither his self worth and his physique and sportsmanship, and finds strength and security in his relationship to the farmer. Alex’s arc isn’t cut short by marrying the farmer and settling down it’s COMPLETED - Alex is secure enough in his masculinity and self worth to find joy and purpose in settling down as a stay-at-home father on the successful farm his breadwinner spouse runs. It’s why the misogany doesn’t bother me because at the end of the day the farm is always player-headed. If a Female farmer marries Alex that’s still Alex taking on the domestic/submissive role in a marriage. The player is always head of the house and usually presumably the breadwinner on the farm. (I kind of hope Harvey is making good money he IS a doctor)
2. Alex’s relationship with the player is a complete inversion of the hallmark rural romance trope. Alex is from Stardew Valley while the player is from the city and just moved here. Typically a hallmark movie will have someone from the city off break from a big city job visit a small rural town and meet a local business owner or assistant at a family owned store, who is usually cocky and snarky and a little misogynistic or sweet and naive and a little chauvinistic, and they teach the big city visitor that their job isn’t as important as the rural community they’ve been apart of their whole life and they fall in love and the city slicker abandons their life and becomes part of their rural boyfriend’s life, working in the family store or whatever.
Except….Alex doesn’t have anything going on. The farmer does. The farmer IS a former city slicker but they get a hold of things in as little as 2 years while Alex watches, failing to pursue his dream as an athlete. As such Alex is humbled by the player’s success and becomes part of THEIR world by moving to the farm and giving up his dreams of sport ball to be a stay-at-home farm dad
Alex is a LOT like this football player who was obsessed with me in my senior year - macho and kind of misogynist on the outside, but actually pretty nice when you got to know him (but in his case, he was too aggressive for my liking)
My last year of high school my bully almost confessed to me (I knew he liked me but he never said it, it was kind of obvious to me though). He didn’t let me leave at break, told me he had something to tell me when we were alone, but I shut that down really quickly and hurried away before he could say anything to save him the embarrassment. He was also aggressive about it and I’m just putting it out there that being aggressive with your crush does not work most of the time (he was nothing like Alex though)
As someone who grew up in a kinda conservative small town surrounded with jock types, I don’t really see how people think Alex’s character makes no sense to marry as a female partner. He acts exactly like his upbringings would allow and he actually changes his ways and is actually super sweet in the end. Like Pierre is also super sexist and he doesn’t change and George is lowkey homophobic and I never see anyone complaining about that ???
I always felt kind of bad with Alex, but I never romanced him partially because of the sexist comments, but mostly because I really liked Sebastian (which is apparently the common opinion)
Also implying Dalinar even remembers Renarin exists long enough to think he’s worthless lol
Alex was my best friend and I was pining after Sebastian but ended up marrying Abigail cause she’s just so gosh darn fun and cute. Alex was definitely someone I was thinking about maybe marrying, but he’s still my farmer’s best bro 👌
On the bright side, it’s the lesbian/gay solidarity head cannon I have for my Farmer and Alex
Alex was made for the gays. I see alot of people say gay men love him but, as a lesbian I can tell you that he's both my and my gfs favorite 😭 he's our goodest boy.
As a lesbian can confirm lol
@@lynnz7501 that's kinda gay :/
ALEX FOR THE GAYS WRAAAAHHHH
He's the least gay character in the entire game lul
@@MissSchnickfitzelabsolutely no
I was playing Stardew Valley for the first time about a year ago. I named myself Dusty since it’s a shortened version of some of my usernames. I planned to be friends with everyone possible, Alex was the first on my list. You can imagine my surprise and ultimate confusion once he started talking about the dog Dusty. I sat there in front of my Xbox for a good 10 minutes before finally deciding to check if the dog was actually named Dusty or if he named the him after me lol. He’s not my first choice for a marriage candidate, but that confusions stuck with me so I can’t get it out of my head he just decided to name the dog after the farmer. I even have to remind myself that the dog’s name is actually just Dusty. After that interaction, I decided I was going to marry him. Unfortunately that didn’t last long and I immediately fell for the skater boy-
That's hilarious!
sam and alex lovers are so valid. thats me. i am valid
@@humangarbage3019 same love those 2
George is actually surprisingly very accepting of it or not really surprising, cause it was made on purpose, so every npc is like that. I'll tell you that, people in real life don't typically say "maybe i'm too old fashioned", they just stick to their beliefs and ideals, they do not belittle themselves. Especially of his age.
I've definitely known people to talk like that
I think saying "I'm too old fashion" is more of an acceptance that times has changed rather than a change of personal beliefs, so they are not actually belittling themself, but rather they're saying "getting angry it's not worth it, I'll just have a bad time. Let it be.".
Although I agree Geogre most likely got those lines so the player won't hate him (lol).
From what my mom told me, my grandad was extremely strict. There was definitely an obvious rift from my mom and her dad as they got older. So when I met him, all I saw was a frail old man with a lot of regrets behind him. He talks like George too and bedridden. He couldn't go anywhere without a wheelchair. There's definitely people like George, who realized too late about their mistakes. They have more time to be self-aware and when they see their children gone for so long, they question whether they raised them right or they've done enough for them.
This is why i like George so much. He's not perfect. There are many many people out there like him. The reality with people like him is that they were likely raised being spoonfed hatred. They don't know anything else. This doesnt excuse homophobia and the like but it explains where it may come from and gives people a good idea of how to combat the issue. As someone who was once (regrettably. ive since figured out im queer myself.) homophobic.. it was because i wasn't educated. People fear what they don't understand. George is important to me because he shows that people CAN change. Not everyone will change but some can and they should be encouraged.
@@Cam1417-TK
yeah it's not an acceptance in the common sense but the more passive senss of giving up. he's not approving just saying he won't fight about it
I like Alex! He was my first marriage candidate and although he was very hard to marry since he has only two hard to get loves, it wasn't annoying, just took a little longer. Alex is a great example of toxic masculinity and internalized misogyny. I think that it would have been different if he had better role models instead of his abusive father and George, who we as the farmer may come to love, was probably not the best at showing Alex how to treat woman and also a lot of old-fashioned ways of thinking, such as the one he expresses to you before reaching 10 hearts with the farmer. The ways he treats the female farmer even at the ten-heart event are still not great, he shows a lot of growth since we as the player first meet him. Again, I have a bias since he was my first marriage candidate and I'm a sucker for himbos, but I think that he's still a great character outside of that with a lot of immersion and depth.
Too true! Also, glad to find more HIMBO lovers, lol. 😂
@@sadtitties222 yasssssss
in this context, saying he has "internalised" misogyny isn't really correct because he's a dude, though he does have internalised homophobia.
@@user-ln2go4xp6d yeah i was saying hes not a woman 😭 he was just taught to be misogynistic n homophobic by george n probably some other ppl he was around. a lot of discrimination that ppl do to others are LEARNED. humans have always been social creatures n going against conformity is basically the pipeline to get socially alienated so i get why he became like that in the first place.
I hat that just because someone made a comment like a girl not being good at catch (which honestly let's admit that more men are into sports than women), it's automatically "toxic masculinity" and "misogyny" like guys, are we all just kids who've learned a new word and eager to use it anywhere?
I like Alex. I didn't dislike him as much as some people did when they first met him. And I almost cried when I got his eight heart event yesterday. 🙂
I lost it at the "up hill through the snow both ways to workout" line.
It's tough out here in the midwest. ❄ Ten feet of snow in the winter, 100 degree thunderstorms in the summer.
@@Leapalot Yep, school was just canceled for an entire week because a storm for me. It was fun and I made and igloo.
When I did my first playthrough of stardew valley, while I married Sebastian, Alex was my best friend. I played as a woman character so his comments did sort of bother me, but after accidently getting his Dusty heart scene, everything clicked and I was a lot more gentle in my perception with him. I was abused for a while by someone important to me and I know how horribly it can affect someone. With Alex not having a good male role model in his life, it just made sense that he'd say those crappy things. Football players, I've seen, have that air about them, especially the highschool football players that think that they're going to go big league but end up working at a gas station. But that's all usually a presentation, and Alex embodied it in a very important way for me. So he's always been one of my favorite villagers, he was always so complicated and that made me enjoy his company, even if he said the dumbest sexist things when trying to bond. (if there was an option, I'd tell him to shut up with the sexist stuff, but that was never something presented. Haley totally would've herself, though, so its just one plot point that confuses me a little)
i’ve always said, both Alex and Hailey are best romanced by same-sex farmers. their arcs feel more complete that way.
As a girl who went for Haley on my first playthrough, I agree.
As a girl who went for Haley then for Alex, most definitely
I could not DISAGREE more lol. I have romanced Haley as a male and she turns out to be a sweetheart. And romanced Alex as a female, same arc.
Both pretend to be something they are not and thus reveal a very beautiful and.kind soul inside.
@@MissSchnickfitzelAlex is incredibly misogynistic when you’re a girl player, even at the 8 heart event he makes you get a salad instead of letting you choose or even just getting you a normal meal…
I swear, when i first played stardew valley without knowing anything i was walking to the town and when i meet Alex... i am IMMEDIATELY ATTRACTED TO HIM. thats when i knew i would give flowers for him everytime i can lol. i love love love Alex. I romance him in every save file
I was the same lol. Something told me that he was the one. My heart just told me to go for him and I’ve done my best to keep him happy since.
Omg same here XD.
On my first time playing I was just exploring when I see this handsome looking character playing catch by himself XD
Immediately watch tips on how to marry him quickly and did that XD
No regrets whatsoever since he's the sweetest husband for me XD
Same here! Literally met him and was like this guy an a-hole but then like he hot to 😉 he can stay ☺️
The only reason I forgive Alex for his shortcomings is because I understand the impacts of not having a solid male role model. That being said, he’s the only character I’ve never given a bouquet to. I’ve seen his heart events on the wiki, that’s enough for me.
My savior complex apparently doesn’t go that far. I married Shane in my first play through, but won’t date Alex. What does that say about me? Uh oh
🤔 That it's time for a new save file? 😅
Omg, yes about the whole "saviour complex" you develop when playing games. Why oh why do I always want to protect and love the misunderstood misfits? 😭🤣
@@Leapalot🫣 fine. i will name my cat Leapalot in your honor.
@@sadtitties222 I wish it was only in video games 😅
@@kaylahaas the greatest honor. 😁
The thing that made me never want to date him is the quote where he says that he threw away a perfectly good pair of shoes because they had a little smudge, and he specifically decided not to donate them because he doesn't "like the idea of some weirdo wearing my shoes, ya know?"
No, Alex. I don't know. Because I'm not an entitled douche.
ikr and how he said he would've cut his hair off if it weren't for the "girls" 🙄
Honestly didn't speak to him in like seven playthroughs because of that
@@basilbat273 and not having a job and ask us for 5k coin just to watch a small ahh tv in the saloon 😭
That was the first line of dialogue that made me wish I could punch an npc
Yeahh, ghosted Alex after that and went after Sam and Shane. Married Shane at the first playthrough and loved him. Married Sam on a new save file and I loved him.
I've married them all, and each character has so much to offer. (Even poor broken Shane.) Alex understands the concept of working together to build something for the future and does his best to be a good homemaker. He is a bit of a misogynist, but even in Stardew Valley, one should never think a person will fundamentally change for the better just because you're married, lol. He cooks, cleans, fixes fences, waters and feeds the animals, and makes sure the kids have strong legs. All I have to do is give him a tree fruit every morning and he's as happy as can be.
Alex is best boy because he has such a realistic arc AND he’s a himbo. Plus his some of his heart scenes made me big sad and that’s an absolute win in my book.
Alex is pretty low on my ranking, but he does have his good points. Once you get past the superficiality of the guy, he is actually kind of sweet. And if I'm being honest here, he is the marriage candidate that most resembles my real-life husband. I'm not really sure what that means, but I feel that it means something.
Awww, lol. That's pretty wholesome. 😊
It means you value character growth! (maybe?)
In a way you just said your husband ranks low, lmaoooooo
I think Alex has a great character development, much like Haley. He went from a douchebag to an actual sensitive and emotional guy. His dialogs are more affectionate when your marry him too.
I always thought Alex was the ultimate bro, just your average dude that might have some pa rts of him stuck in the past but by helping eachother you can help him become the better bro
If you live your life in an insulated valley and your only male role model is George, you might have some learning to do. No offense George, I'm sure you're trying your best... 😅
@@Leapalot Yeah, but having your only caretakers be that much older can really have a different dynamic and make the generational gap worse/more complicated. My parents were in their 40's when they had me, so the differences in technology and some social issues when they were young versus when I was could be really extreme.
I think for me it's again that Alex seems like a nice kid who needs a nice adult in his life. But like you point out, I've only played as a female character so it's a slightly different arc.
It is, and he absolutely does! Imagine being trapped with George and and abusive father for your two primary male role models...
@@Leapalot It's a pretty impressive arc that he manages to pull out of that nose dive. Even if you don't marry him he certainly becomes a better, more balanced person and I think that's great. I still don't want to marry him, though, because he feels young enough to be my child. :)
Not gonna lie, my friend and I started a farm together trying to make it as chaotic as possible so I went "watch me marry the jerk" while referring to Alex but it turned out that the more the events happened the more I went "nuh! Poor baby! I love him! 🥺🥺 lemme hug" while my friend laughed at my reaction, and with that he ACTUALLY became one of my favorites characters cause he IS deeper than most people think while knowing his abusive father story his attitude just makes more sense
I honestly didnt know there were differences based on the gender of you and your partner, this is really interesting!
It only shows up every now and then, but I think Alex is the best example of gender specific dialogue.
I like Alex! I've never romanced him but now I'm so tempted to make a male farmer and finally see his heart events.
They are very intimate and sweet. More than you'd imagine. But it's a bit of a slog in the early game cuz he's kind of a jerk/annoying at first. Just like... everyone?
Alex was the first person I ever married I was playing a guy so I had no idea the dialog changed at all. He's so easy to I just gave him an egg twice a week and hes always outside every morning so easy to locate too. I think he's a good bean.
You should collect data on how non neurotypical people view the dateable npcs. I have autism and was nearly the complete opposite to the rest of my age group so it would be really interesting to see how/if autism, ADHD and other conditions could affect the results!
Sorry for replying to this a year late lol, but if you wouldn’t mind do you think you could share your ranking for the marriage candidates and/or how you see them? I have autism too and I’d like to see if we have similar opinions! :]
Alex is my absolute favourite marriage candidate, I think his growth is really admirable. I really like watching him not only fall in love with the farmer, but also fall in love with his life despite it not being what he had dreamed of when he was younger... sometimes by our dreams not coming true, we are able to realize new ones. I think he's a really honest character that hits home for me!
I married him, hes my malewife and sometimes cooks me food. I love him
omg he’s gonna be my future husband! 😘🏈 9/10 hearts so far! We finna have kids somedays! 👶🏻👶🏻 did you & Alex adopt yet? 🥹
I know his background, even his 14 heart event, but if someone genuinely said “I got these new shoes yesterday 'cuz my old pair had a brown smudge. I just threw them into the garbage. I would've donated them but I don't like the idea of some weirdo wearing my shoes, ya know? ...What?” I would avoid them, I would not be friends with that kind person. I know he isn't the brightest and very arrogant, but that's just mean, not even considering to donate some shoes because of ego. Even a child would be more careful when wording things the way he did.
Alex isn't too low on my list. I actually really like him aside from the sexist comments. It does bother me a bit, but I like that he opens his mind as you get to know him better. What stuck with me is his comment about his hair. He just keeps it that way to be popular with ladies. As much as he's more sexist towards women, he limits himself so he can be popular with them. It's more sad than anything to me. I like seeing him slowly grow, starting with him not putting hair gel in his hair. It's such a small thing, but he finally felt confident to try something new with his hair. Alex and Elliott both talk about their hair. Elliott mentions he struggles with long hair, but is too vain to cut it off. That makes sense, I've had long hair and I definitely miss the styling of it even if I don't miss the struggles of it. But Alex flat out says he only keeps his hair that way cause of women. Where Elliott's is a personal choice and liking despite the difficulties, Alex keeps it that way for women, for others. It really feels like Alex just got these problematic views as he grew up cause nobody thinks like that and with his dad calling him worthless, we can bet that plays into why he tries to appeal to others, mostly women. I grew up in an abusive home so I can relate a lot to some of his insecurities. It doesn't excuse being sexist or anything, but I like that he's not perfect and he has some character growth.
With jock types, I either love them or hate them. You get the himbo or good natured jocks even if they're a bit problematic at some points or you get the obnoxious sport fanatics that just get tiresome and never learn. Alex is the first one and so even if he's sexist at earlier points, I like seeing him get better. I like his story. He's about mid tier on my list and honestly I was so tempted to choose him during my first playthrough, but Elliott is RIGHT THERE and so is Shane. And Emily. Oh those three were such a fight. I ended up choosing Elliott because he's best boy and I love everything about him. But Alex was pretty close to being my choice.
I think Leah is personally bottom of the list for me. Not because I dislike her, but when I think of marrying someone, I just don't feel drawn to her. I get along with her, I like her, she was somewhat tempting at first with her background, but even with new OCs and new playthroughs, I just don't feel drawn to her like I once did. She's great and I like being friends, but when I think "maybe Leah?" my gut just doesn't feel it.
Edit: I feel Alex also has some internalized homophobia. Not that he dislikes women, but he thinks that women are the only option for him. So he doesn't consider guys until the farmer comes in and helps him learn about himself. Unlike other characters who are very chill with having a crush on the same gender, Alex never really mentions it since he always talks about women. It's when he gets close to a male farmer that he realizes it and I like that :)
Edit 2: I like how he admits he struggles with reading. I like to think he has a disability like dyslexia or something so he's never found a joy in reading. It reminds me of my friend. She struggles a lot with reading even in video games cause of her dyslexia so she doesn't find an interest in it. It feels so real to me and I like seeing him try even though even the thought of opening a book makes him nervous. I feel like it was also ingrained that he would never be good enough because he struggled with reading and learning like a normal kid (that is a huge mood) and so that's why reading makes him so nervous. It's a headcanon/interpretation I have, but it just makes sense and makes his character more real. It isn't just the "dumb jock" stereotype, he genuinely seems to struggle with reading by his dislike of it despite having so many books.
I like to think he has all those books because they belonged to his mom, I just don't see him getting a shelve that big and completely filling it on his own accord, especially with books like 'phil-o-so-phy' lol
Personally, I like Alex. I think a lot of the things he says early on come from ignorance rather than malice. I see a lot of people be really turned off him because of the whole girls and sports comment but I never really saw an issue with that, looking at the girls in stardew there aren't really any that seem sporty or like they would ever have had any interest in sports growing up. So growing up he sees all these girls that don't like sports and because of that they don't know how to play so it would make sense that in his mind he went "okay so girls dont know how to play sports. Got it"
Like it's still bad but I can see it comes from misunderstanding and not "oh girls are so weak and pathetic theres no way they could ever play sports", yk?
For me, it wasn’t just the “women cannot play sports” thing, but just this arrogance he has early on-particularly the point that he won’t donate his old shoes because he doesn’t like the idea of someone else wearing his stuff, then being confused by a presumably weird look from the farmer. That uncharitable thing has stuck with me, and I always cringe when I encounter it in new playthroughs.
That’s not to say I don’t appreciate his character growth though. As Leap details, Alex doesn’t appear to have a healthy male role model, and he only seems to interact with Haley for company. The Pelican Town pool is very shallow for population interaction, haha. So I definitely appreciate that he grows into a better version of himself over time. However, the first impressions linger, so unless I’m going to play with a character written in my head to romance Alex, he’s firmly in the platonic besties zone.
@@Rikrobat Alex definitely watches Andrew Tate
In George's defense, as a gay man myself also with grandparents of more conservative views, I appreciate his conservative views in story simply because it is more realistic and adds depth and more believability to the story. While 10 hearts needed to change his mind is much, keep in mind people his age normally get to a point wherein they will ride or dye with their ideals and do not want to change and as sad as it sounds. With that in mind, the mere fact he does atleast change and warm up is atleast progressive enough for me because its big to ask someone to change what they've been used to for so long. Yes change must come to us and we should aim to improve, but still, I sympathize with George in the fact he kinda has to adjust and make changes just like that.
Over all, this is surprisingly good writing on CA's part imo. As much as I like gay people being happy and pursuing the life to be themselves, any story is only as good as the conflict and stakes they've had to go through to get it and this does the role well enough for me.
I used to roll my eyes and just ignore Alex, but recently I was on a quest to collect all the hearts with all characters and found Alex to have much more depth than I originally anticipated.
I only play female farmers and feel that, in this context, Alex is more of a friend than potential love interest.
I actually really like Alex as a husband. I also can't stand Shane, even though a lot of people seem to like him.
genuine question, no hate- why dont you like shane?
@@mothtransman I started not liking him after I married him on one of my playthroughs. I guess I just like his character more before marriage. I just wasn't a huge fan of how he acted afterwards tbh. I also sort of wish that after he cleaned up, that he got a little less disheveled maybe?
@@anactualprayingmantis5054 oh worm i get that 100%. i love shane but yeah as a husband i feel like he just regresses thanks for answering btw!
Here’s my take:
•the first time I played stardew valley I chose the female farmer (I still play the female farmer). I actually was infatuated with Haley. But as I kept playing I really liked Alex. (Stardew valley played a roll in discovering my own Bisexuality. And I kind of head canon Alex as bi too)
•The first heart scene I chose the ‘angry’ response when he made a cliché sexist remark. And he does kind of back off a bit, which I respected. Although I thought of him as a one dimensional jock until the scene about his dad. That changed everything.
•Alex not only lacked a father figure, but a mother too (his mom loved him but died when he was young). The way I see it, the female farmer not only helps him open up about his trauma, but also teaches him to see women as regular people. And he apologizes about the macho stuff.
•Alex has his flaws but I still love him. And if my save file gets corrupted, I’ll marry him all over again!
your warning at the beginning about heavy topics was really great. the use of the phrase 'not in the right headspace' was just.. awesome. cant describe how happy that made me feel.
Alex is my second favorite bachelor after Sebastian! I have a soft spot for both of them,. Alex can be ass, especially because I play as a girl, but I love his character for all the other reasons! Once you get more hearts he has a lot of cute dialogue. I can’t remember the specific of it, but if you see Alex in the winter he comments how you walked all the way in the snow to see him, he blushes and says something along the lines of if we see Haley to tell her that he’s busy. I think you can see his softer sides and see that he has a crush in the player earlier than some of the other marriage candidates.
I think all the marriage candidates having flaws and these story lines makes them such better characters. Sam is one of my favorites too but he is usually always chill and he doesn’t have many flaws, he has great storylines but he doesn’t feel as deep as a character like Alex or Shane. I like Shane’s character story but never marry or date him.
I wish the bachelorettes had some deeper stories, Penny is my favorite. I haven’t married any other than her, but have gotten 8 heart events.
I consider Haley and Alex part of a set and the game supports that. I think that Alex is a really good guy and he's the only marriage candidate I keep coming back to. He's just one of those people who gets more complicated as you get to know him and I really appreciate that about him. People have layers and I'm always intrigued what's underneath that surface. He's my favorite marriage candidate by far. He's happy to live on your farm and he doesn't let it stop him from going back to check on his grandparents all the time. Alex is very relatable and familiar to me. I knew a lot of guys like Alex and what they actually needed was acceptance.
I've always known Alex had his flaws but I always thought people hated on him way too much without looking into his development
I always liked Alex. he was never my top bachelor, but I appreciated his growth and he always seemed pretty chill. He's also pretty easy to find most days, so he has that going for him.
If you haven't paid much attention to Alex you might not have noticed but his birthday Summer 13 is one of the few days in the game where the weather is hard-coded to rain, this is by design to prevent the 8 heart event from happening on his birthday; even if the weather channel tells you it will be sunny it will still rain, even if you use CJB Cheats on the 12th to set the weather for the next day to sunny, it will still rain to prevent the heart event from happening.
Tbh I wish once we married Alex he would go help Penny teach the kids. I love him so so much (was playing a male character) and think it would fit him
What could he teach them?
@@GlenCocoon Philosophy, of course!
@@mado-wh4jv 🤔
@@GlenCocoon Is one of his heart events?
@@mado-wh4jv i missed that. i wonder how since he never reads and philosophy requires reading the thoughts of others
omg a new character analysis video of yours i always like these and i think you offer new and interesting perspectives about characters that are always really fun to watch even if i don't necessarily agree !
Glad you're enjoying them!
Thank you so much for the warning! Some days I need it and its amazing to have a creator who thinks of those things
I mean, to be fair he lived with george, town mayor is fucking lewis, and clint exists in the same town, and dont even make me mention demetreus. Not many people for role modeling.
Pierre and Kent are great role models...?
Oh Alex was doomed from the start.
@@affsteak3530 pierre is probbably the worst at being a role model, while kent... well, he was away for god knows how long, guy was actually doomed
I'm on my first ever play through of Stardew and I immediately knew I was gonna choose Alex as soon as I met him. I dunno, I just figured that there was gonna be more to him than the jerkish super macho façade. Even though he's still a little rough around the edges throughout dating him, I feel like it's expected from a guy who had such a terrible father. With his dad being so aggressive towards Alex, you can only imagine the stuff he taught him about other people - including women. I don't think we can really hold that against Alex. He's a product of his environment. Having said that, I haven't seen any red flags from him since marriage (I'm a female farmer). I honestly don't know how I'm gonna deal with picking someone else for my second play through lol, he feels like the natural choice now. That's my husband, damnit!
For me, the dialogue where Alex says he throws away his old shoes because he doesn't want a homeless person to have them ruins everything and prevents me from seeing any good in him.
Yea, it's a personal pet peeve of mine. When someone throws away good things cause they don't want someone else wearing their stuff. It's rediculous
Regardless if you throw it away or donate it, it is not yours anymore, so why would you care what's up with an inanimate object.
As someone who married Alex first he is literally the cutest most amazing candidates. One time I got killed in the mines and he told me that he cried when he saw my motionless body and always talks about how amazing I am
He’s literally so sweet. Especially when the player is a guy
Welp, choosing him because my sister already chose sebastian(co-op) and he look cool. The first impression when he teasing my character and i loving teasing back. His reaction was expected and i love it. Never thought about that more
I know he has a compelling storyline (as does Shane) but as someone who doesn’t have a desire to save people and plays as female he never appealed to me
Alex is the kind of character where I can SEE he has more to him than meets the eye but I'm deathly allergic to jock types so I refuse to romance him to find out
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Dude this automatically made my face go to 😚 to 😐 in less than a second lol
I'm glad you made a video about this. I haven't watched throughout the whole video yet, but I think this is a very interesting topic.
Hope you enjoyed it! I find Alex fascinating.
I don’t rly think of him as misogynistic. I think he has a simple outlook on things and this isn’t helped w not having many positive figures in his life and lack of education. I never took his comments personally (probably cuz the whole sports thing is more of a relief that I don’t have to play catch cuz I hate sports lol) but something that rly struck me as a female player befriending him was at that one cutscene by the beach where he’s remembering his mom, he calls you his best friend in town. He doesn’t confess his love or think you have feelings for him because you’re nice, he genuinely appreciates a platonic bond w you. A lot of misogynistic men fundamentally have an entitlement problem when it comes to women; I don’t feel that way w Alex.
i feel like if left alone, he definitely would’ve developed some genuine misogyny, especially if his relationship with haley was left to develop. they are SO bad for each other!
I love that there is crossover between the Stardew Valley and Stormlight Archive fandoms!
Can I just say: thanks for the heads up on hard topics. I'll watch it later. 💞
Absolutely love you for that opening warning ❤️
I don't see why people hate him so much. He was the first person I really liked on the game and I married him (as a girl). People think it's all bad about him asking if you had a bikini, he's mostly just asking do you have a bathing suit but said something different. He's very kind and he had a pretty bad past. He just needs some love and company.
Same omg
as a girl, I fully agree. I think some people are oversensitive when it comes to Alex tbh
Thank you for doing all of these! I've only ever played a woman, so once I got the first comment from him, I kind of tuned his existence out. Your channel kind of reminded me that he exists! I think his story with the guy famer is really sweet.
A stormlight fan! This channel just keeps getting better!
Leapalot, I seriously love your videos. Keep this amazing content up!
I didn’t find any of the marriage candidates that compelling my first playthrough, but the response on the eight heart scene that was highlighted did tip the scales in Alex’s favor. While I’ve grown a general fondness for the all of the villagers through exposure and an attachment to Leah because of a butch lumberjack mod I found, that scene with Alex is still probably the only story beat that I have a deeper connection with.
I always either marry him or Sebastian (other than when I was scared to marry a guy for if my family saw and I'd be outed 🤣) but this video has taught me that Alex is one of the best characters to marry if you're male but one of the worst if you're female.
Lol I'm too kinda scared of being outed as a trans guy since I play on Xbox in the living room, I'm ftm so my farmer is obv male, but if my mom ever noticed and asks me about it I can just tell her the farmer is preimposted lol
I still don’t like him cuz he said I’d ask you to play catch if you weren’t a girl and I will never let that go
Oh dang! I never knew there was an 8 heart event at the beach! Now I feel so sad that I missed out that… *twice*
I think the only reason I eventually warmed up to Alex but not Haley despite them having a very similar archetype was that Alex does at least acknowledge and apologize to you for being a jerk in your earlier interactions. Some of his other day-to-day dialogue contradicts that apology a bit, but overall Alex seems to grow a lot more and take responsibility for how he treats you, which is nice to see.
I chose Alex first time playing stardew and he’s dialogue once married is so cute 🥺
It's my first time watching a video from this channel and I got a whiplash from the Stormlight Archive reference there
Love that you’re wearing the trash can lid during your heartfelt moment with Alex
As a gay guy, I was deciding whether I should go for Alex or Shane, but ultimately decided on Alex.
I could never understand why he was unpopular (unlike Shane), but now after hearing how he acts towards the female farmer, I kinda understand it more.
I still like him and he will stay my favourite Bachelor.
When i first started playing (as male) i instantly got interested in Alex's story
His whole character growth and self discovery are so endearing to me and the gay story just makes me happy :)
Im married to him on my farm and couldn't be happier
I wasn’t expecting that cheeky lil Stormlight Archive reference to be in this video. Made me laugh XD
Alex was the first one I married. I loved his story progression and how he was kinder as you got to know him more. Very heartwarming:)
Alex is my absolute favourite character, my interpretation is that he's starts of as a completey toxic masculine jerk because he had no role model or person to learn from or even talk to other than his grandparents, George especially. His character arc makes me cry in every single run I play, especially his 10 heart cutscene. This was a great video analysis!
Alex is who I chose in my playthrough, he just gets sweeter and sweeter, even after marriage and being a stay at home dad.
My little gay high school self before I transitioned was so in love with Alex after going through all these cutscenes with him. And it was because, just like you said, it was a much more meaningful romance-line to go through as a male that I decided not to pursue him again post my transition.
I'm so excited to watch this!
Never really comment on UA-cam videos but this content is 👌
me @ the title: DO NOT SLANDER MY DYSLEXIC SELF HATING TRAUMA SON.
Me @ the end of the video: THIS IS WHY ALEX IS THE BEST MALE MARRIAGE CANDIDATE FOR A MALE FARMER.
Edit: also George is officially Canadian now.
I had to pause the video at the Stormlight Archive reference to check whether it was actually there, not just my mind showing me what I was thinking myself. Alex's story hits differently now... Thank you for the Dalinar/Renarin comparison
I honestly love Alex. He was my first and remains my favorite spouse. But that's not what I'm here to talk about. I'm here to talk about how I randomly stumbled on your channel from this video (probably born from my want to defend Alex) and was completely caught off guard by your Stormlight references, and happy to see that they're in other videos too. Thank you for this crossover I didn't know I needed.