As a Ship Repair Welder for 35 years, I have seen plenty of rust. You did a good job. I have subscribed and will enjoy more of your vlogs. All the best from the UK. 👍👍
Thanks for the video. I got my 2 year ATA in welding and have been in the field working for 5 weeks now. So in my head, im still new for the next 2 years at least with all the knowledge out there, thanks for sharing yours!
Hello From Mark In Kentucky. I recently retired after nearly 32 years of welding/fabrication at a state government equipment repair facility where I worked on many of the rotten truck beds. I have found that the slicer wheels on a grinder was probably the best method of cutting out the “Crust” and which the other material that used to be metal was no longer metallic. In fact, The Cutmaster 102 would absolutely not cut some of the worst areas and I would have to either use the slicer wheel or melt it out with a OxyAcetyline cutting torch. A good deal of my repairs on the Galion beds that we had was repairing or replacing the top section of the bed which was usually tubing and as you did, also welding in the bottom section which luckily for me was not rounded like your project. Our newer Galion beds had flat brackets welded center ways between the front and rear of the top section of the bed which really helped strengthen the sideboards. The brackets that I used to make to help the older beds that I was working on were 1/4 inch flat with the bottom of the plate for example being around 10 inches long and the top being around 8 inches long which had a nice look to it. The tallness of the brackets was usually relative to the height of the sideboards. Our facility used to purchase at least 3 inch thick rough cut oak lumber from local sawmills for lumber and for the tandem dump trucks and 2 inch rough oak for single axle 2,1/2 ton trucks. The Mig wire that I used was either.035 or .044 Lincoln L56 copper clad wire using a MillerMatic 350 welder. I would love to have a dollar for every inch of Mig wire that I burned repairing those junky beds. I honestly can’t say that I used exactly the same techniques for every bed repair; Because One Size Does Not Fit All when you are doing the welding repair thing. Take Care My Fellow Welding Friend.
If you do lot of grinding and welding, consider a 3M Speedglas Adflo welding hood, lens never fog up and your lungs will love it......... Good repair job, all that truck needs now is some NH Oil Undercoating.......
Great job...When my old employer found out I was a welder for 5yrs (now a 22yr truck driver)..He wanted me to repair his trucks but keep me at my same pay. He was so cheap. Be a driver & his welder?
Vulcan flux core is pretty good wire. I've used a lot of it with good success. Tried some other cheap flux wire and had lot of porosity problems. Flux core is so much more expensive because of the manufacturing process to make tubular wire filled with flux, but you also do not need to pay for gas so it evens out quite a lot in that regard. As you noted, it is far superior for dirty aplications to solid wire mig. Nice work. It's too bad the owner does not want to do more work to repair more of the structure but you can only do what they are willing to pay for.
The worst rust repair is a rust jacked double frame repair, that had about 3/4" of rust between frame rails. A friend did his, he removed the box, cut off the hinge bracket, removed the two rear axels, springs, cross members and a few other things. It looked like too much work for me to do. I called a shop for a price to do it, they estimated about $20,000. I got rid of my truck that needed that work. I now look very closely for rust before I buy a truck.
Hard to see from this angle but the drive rollers, if you’re using the 030/035 side then you leave that facing out. It looked like you turned it in which would be the opposite of what you needed for that wire
Nice job from an old tin knocker!! Great channel. I just bought my first Primeweld using your recommendation. So far so good. I’m guessing your a fitter….did I guess right? Have a good one.
Yup, steamfitter. Glad you like the videos. Would be nice if primeweld gave me a kick back 🤣🤣. Either way I like machines. They are great for a home shop
How did you make a template for a shop to bend the side strip up for you? I get carboard for shapes but idk how id make a template for someone to bend.
believe it or not this truck actually never plowed or salted ever in its life. just a spring summer and fall rig, guess it didnt get washed or cleaned out often
Rust is gold here in Florida but don't ever work on old concrete trucks around here. Haha, the rust is under all that white coating and it's EVERYWHERE!!
New welder did you get the gas set up. There is a huge difference in weld quality. yeah people use the wire with the shielding in the wire, its splatters and looks like crap and is notb forgivving. Good luck.
You can run 6011 on DCEN polarity, the arc will penetrate less, but if it's thin metal, you will have to travel faster. However, wire welder will always reign supreme on these repairs. But again, if you don't have a wire welder, run 6011 at DCEN polarity, it will take longer but will get the job done
This video brought me to your site, I like your welding . Great work. I,m thinking of buying a Primeweld mts 200, 3in 1 mig welder. I watched you weld panel in solid. Have you used your primeweld 180 to spot weld thinner guage sheet melal?
I love going through all my subscriptions and got tons of binge content of all areas of life😅 always reminds me of my time welding. Im only 30! 😂 but i make music now 🤙🎹 both skills demand patience and imagination in my experience
I'll guess the rust will return pretty quickly, especially underneath where there was still rusty material. Rust converters are a good way to stop rust spreading. The repair looked ok.
@@mcfwelding Well as long as the customer is happy that's all that you need. I've seen some beds which would make people cry, honest. Using a torch and sledge hammer to remove individual panels and parts of the superstructure as well and welding plates in, where the weld looks like something a bird dropped. 👍
Bro, these comments are where the pros live. I extra love it when they say they would turn down a job instead of getting paid twice and having a repeat repeat repeat customer. 😆 You can tell they don't actually weld when they come with that bunk shit. The customer will always want to paint their turd a few times before doing what really needs to be done. MFs screaming safety must not ever leave the house... or have insurance. 🤔
@@mcfwelding yeah I heard that later on on the video after I made the comment. So is that part of the bed supposed to be structural at all? You have to admit when you look at one, that section and those little uprights sure do look beefy. I'd never expect they were formed from such light duty sheet material. Was the original metal thicker and the owner just wanted it to be cosmetically improved?
Maybe a cheap sheet metal brake could bend that piece? But maybe not worth it if you aren’t going to use it often. Or spend the money on a press with a swag finger brake?
Nothing Solid left to Weld New metal to on that Bed! Plasma cutter Would be ideal for Cutting the rusty metal out . I'd Use Better quality Wire than harbor freight though.
Biggest problem I've seen is that you didn't treat the old metal underneath to prevent further rusting inside or at least slow it down. You really did not accomplish much except to slow down the inevitable by missing that one step.
@@richardcline1337 you'd find this hard to believe but alot of customers want things done cheap I don't like it but cash is cash and if he paid me my rate to this job and I'm happy with what I made on it, so be it. nature of the game
Terribly damaged by rust - the structural integrity compromised. But the steel patching creates a facade. The steel plate welded on is thin and add little strength. Truck later probably sold to some sucker - with degree of rust hidden. And they end up with a real lemon. And a danger to society.
Here's a rule of thumb. Any structural part removed from that truck should be replaced by a part of same or better gauge steel. Nothing like that flimsy sh!t that was used. I have never seen anyone actually post something so bad. It's a safety concern, but also a liability concern. If that truck ever got into an accident, the welder could be sued for such poor work. But...the owner wants it that way. Well, the welder can always refuse this kind of job.
@jaxithfox in order to PROVE it was the welders fault for the failure is EXTREMELY difficult and rare. Without a fatality, there won't even be an investigation into it. The welding police do NOT exist the way so many people think they do.
Though I agree it's a little thin and a thick piece wouldn't cost much more, odds are this truck belongs to some mехісаn who has no money to spare. That bring said, that part really isn't that structural.... when you go to dump, almost all the weight is on those two main inner frame rails. Considering there are countless mason dumps with the sides rusted off completely and in operation everyday, it doesn't even matter. Also, this isn't a triaxle dumping 27 tons, this little truck is rated for probably 1.5-2 tons. That's nothing not to mention probably half that weight is on the back hinge when going up...
As a Ship Repair Welder for 35 years, I have seen plenty of rust. You did a good job. I have subscribed and will enjoy more of your vlogs. All the best from the UK. 👍👍
I appreciate it!
You are a Great welder don't shortchange yourself. Be Blessed
Thanks for the video. I got my 2 year ATA in welding and have been in the field working for 5 weeks now. So in my head, im still new for the next 2 years at least with all the knowledge out there, thanks for sharing yours!
I did a similar truck. Cut out the whole floor. Welded a nee one in. Crappy work the box needed so much more but thats what they wanted.
always the case
I really hate doing repairs with a lot of rust, but someone has to do it. Nice job!
Rust and Railings the two jobs that I despise.
Do you see rust like this in Cali? Here in the north east 1 out of 3 dump trucks look like this lol
I can't believe you did all that with a grinder and a bench vice. Tremendous work hope you got paid handsomely for it.
Had to get done that's the only way I feel I could have done it with the tools I have
nice job. been there done that, but i had to replace the tub too. good to have a local shop willing to bend it up for ya
A big help to have that piece bent first
@@mcfwelding had my local shop bend the curved sides of the tub, uprights, and rub rails. Wish the rest of the truck was in as good a shape
Ok. You painted it hot. Was thinking you’re slipping. Nice gold chain Jersey welding man you did great!!!
Always gotta get it when its hott
You can also clamp a piece of length of angle iron to your work table to use as a break.
Awesome work! That was a very high quality repair and it turned out super nicely. Good job!
Thanks really appreciate it
Thanks for this upload!!! I have some rust repair to do on my Econoline Van 🤙🏿💯👨🏾🏭💰🔥
Rust ain't no joke lol
Great video thanks for stopping by the other day also!
Thanks nick, always got the good tools
how about some rust converter before you weld it up, that will help the box.
under this was pure ROT, i dont thing rust converter would have helped in this case
Hello From Mark In Kentucky. I recently retired after nearly 32 years of welding/fabrication at a state government equipment repair facility where I worked on many of the rotten truck beds. I have found that the slicer wheels on a grinder was probably the best method of cutting out the “Crust” and which the other material that used to be metal was no longer metallic. In fact, The Cutmaster 102 would absolutely not cut some of the worst areas and I would have to either use the slicer wheel or melt it out with a OxyAcetyline cutting torch.
A good deal of my repairs on the Galion beds that we had was repairing or replacing the top section of the bed which was usually tubing and as you did, also welding in the bottom section which luckily for me was not rounded like your project. Our newer Galion beds had flat brackets welded center ways between the front and rear of the top section of the bed which really helped strengthen the sideboards. The brackets that I used to make to help the older beds that I was working on were 1/4 inch flat with the bottom of the plate for example being around 10 inches long and the top being around 8 inches long which had a nice look to it. The tallness of the brackets was usually relative to the height of the sideboards. Our facility used to purchase at least 3 inch thick rough cut oak lumber from local sawmills for lumber and for the tandem dump trucks and 2 inch rough oak for single axle 2,1/2 ton trucks. The Mig wire that I used was either.035 or .044 Lincoln L56 copper clad wire using a MillerMatic 350 welder. I would love to have a dollar for every inch of Mig wire that I burned repairing those junky beds. I honestly can’t say that I used exactly the same techniques for every bed repair; Because One Size Does Not Fit All when you are doing the welding repair thing. Take Care My Fellow Welding Friend.
Then you wouldn’t get repeat business 😂
If you do lot of grinding and welding, consider a 3M Speedglas Adflo welding hood, lens never fog up and your lungs will love it.........
Good repair job, all that truck needs now is some NH Oil Undercoating.......
Have run the Vulcan Flux Core wire a lot. Runs very well. Nice saving the $$ with a good product.
Great job...When my old employer found out I was a welder for 5yrs (now a 22yr truck driver)..He wanted me to repair his trucks but keep me at my same pay. He was so cheap. Be a driver & his welder?
Up charge that welding !
great job. well done
Appreciate it
Vulcan flux core is pretty good wire. I've used a lot of it with good success. Tried some other cheap flux wire and had lot of porosity problems. Flux core is so much more expensive because of the manufacturing process to make tubular wire filled with flux, but you also do not need to pay for gas so it evens out quite a lot in that regard. As you noted, it is far superior for dirty aplications to solid wire mig. Nice work. It's too bad the owner does not want to do more work to repair more of the structure but you can only do what they are willing to pay for.
Good job!
Cheers from Iraq.
Loving your work 👍👍👍
Really enjoyed watching
Dope -Hats off
Nice work
Thanks scott
The worst rust repair is a rust jacked double frame repair, that had about 3/4" of rust between frame rails. A friend did his, he removed the box, cut off the hinge bracket, removed the two rear axels, springs, cross members and a few other things. It looked like too much work for me to do. I called a shop for a price to do it, they estimated about $20,000. I got rid of my truck that needed that work. I now look very closely for rust before I buy a truck.
From the UK, done lots of that but always liked that type of Jacket you are wearing.
Great video!!! Living in the north east you see lots of trucks looking that way. I gotta start leaving business cards on them.
Very cool! Nice job.
Thanks!
Hard to see from this angle but the drive rollers, if you’re using the 030/035 side then you leave that facing out. It looked like you turned it in which would be the opposite of what you needed for that wire
maybe i did, not sure. but it welded fine lol
Strong work 💪
Not bad laddie:) In Alaska here mobile welding, Boatbuilder by trade! Make a 2 foot break, it will take 2 hours and save your break! Good luck
great repair!!
Thanks!
great work. imagine you musta been thinkin "well if this ain't puttin spats on a pig"
i certainly was the whole time
Good job doing what the customer asked of you to do.
Cut two slots in a 2” piece of heavy wall pipe, secure the pipe, start bending, keep bending. Until you like it. (Learned from Bondo Billy)
Flux core wire has it's use and not all flux core wires are the same.
Started using E71T-GS then used lincoln NR-211MP and currenly using hobart 21b.
How where you able to find bent metal the exact same... or how did you take a sample to steel supply to match it
Made a template for the steel yard
Nice job from an old tin knocker!! Great channel. I just bought my first Primeweld using your recommendation. So far so good. I’m guessing your a fitter….did I guess right? Have a good one.
Yup, steamfitter. Glad you like the videos. Would be nice if primeweld gave me a kick back 🤣🤣. Either way I like machines. They are great for a home shop
Cracking job
😊 atleast a cple years
👍🏴😁✌️
I had the identical truck it was stolen back in 2021 it was a 96 5spd drive seat was well worn
Saw this and said this upstate ny rust. Then I see Monticello on a sticker🤣🤣
haha trucks from jersey the beds are built up there so it alread comes pre rusted haha
How did you make a template for a shop to bend the side strip up for you? I get carboard for shapes but idk how id make a template for someone to bend.
Cardboard and painters tape
Crust covered it's gone
Underneath is going going soon to be gone
most likely..
Looks like a landscaper salting truck! What did the other side looked like? Nice little job....been awhile since your last post.
believe it or not this truck actually never plowed or salted ever in its life. just a spring summer and fall rig, guess it didnt get washed or cleaned out often
Those Rusty Repair jobs are up there on my list of dislikes. You did a good job for what you had to work with!
Was a tough one but I think it came out okay
Rust is gold here in Florida but don't ever work on old concrete trucks around here. Haha, the rust is under all that white coating and it's EVERYWHERE!!
Looks a lot better than it did. Who makes that welding jacket?
Not sure got it from work they usually get generic ones in bulk
New welder did you get the gas set up. There is a huge difference in weld quality. yeah people use the wire with the shielding in the wire, its splatters and looks like crap and is notb forgivving. Good luck.
New welder here question why not use stick rod like 7018? Could You Even Stick Weld that?
way to thin to use 7018
You can run 6011 on DCEN polarity, the arc will penetrate less, but if it's thin metal, you will have to travel faster. However, wire welder will always reign supreme on these repairs. But again, if you don't have a wire welder, run 6011 at DCEN polarity, it will take longer but will get the job done
This video brought me to your site, I like your welding . Great work. I,m thinking of buying a Primeweld mts 200, 3in 1 mig welder. I watched you weld panel in solid. Have you used your primeweld 180 to spot weld thinner guage sheet melal?
Yea it can do that, you just need to set it up correctly and you will be good to go
Damn that's a sight better good job.
Were you running the fluxcore gasless or with something like 75/25?
straight flux core on this one
Looks to be gasless, self-shielded
I love going through all my subscriptions and got tons of binge content of all areas of life😅 always reminds me of my time welding. Im only 30! 😂 but i make music now 🤙🎹 both skills demand patience and imagination in my experience
I'll guess the rust will return pretty quickly, especially underneath where there was still rusty material. Rust converters are a good way to stop rust spreading. The repair looked ok.
Exactly! i write same massege.
To sad whan spend so much energy ( for good work (
for a bed that is only going to be in service for maybe 2 more years, this was he wanted. and will last for that time
@@mcfwelding Well as long as the customer is happy that's all that you need. I've seen some beds which would make people cry, honest. Using a torch and sledge hammer to remove individual panels and parts of the superstructure as well and welding plates in, where the weld looks like something a bird dropped. 👍
WHERE DID YOU GET THE METAL SKIRT?
Custom made from the metal supply yard I use
How much did that run you
You should use a piece of pipe cut in half for that upright piece
yea, I should have...... but didn't have any
Most people arent willing to pay what it takes to actually do it right. Sometimes you take their money anyway...
How do you charge for something like this
charged by the hour. took me about 9 hours. your hourly rate will reflect your pricing
Try to run dual shield wire
Gotta love these pro welders in the comments. Sometimes we have to do some cowboy shit to get the job done
Did you weld up the Scores before installing?
Nope, no needed since it was welded around the whole outside
@@mcfwelding Definitely needed. Why would you leave that Piece Compromised?!
Hey come here and hit it with a hammer and see how compromised it is I will pay for your flight out.@@crj1249
@@mcfwelding OK bet. When and where is the flight to?
once you get to newark airport give me a call ill come pick you up@@crj1249
Bx-2230 Kubota in the background?
Bro, these comments are where the pros live. I extra love it when they say they would turn down a job instead of getting paid twice and having a repeat repeat repeat customer. 😆 You can tell they don't actually weld when they come with that bunk shit. The customer will always want to paint their turd a few times before doing what really needs to be done. MFs screaming safety must not ever leave the house... or have insurance. 🤔
hahaha
Cool project!
Thanks!
Looks great. How much did you charge for this job and how long did it take? I'm in NY as well.
Not enough lol
Probably you can’t use a piece of pipe split on half then cut the two ends with the right angle
That's what I wanted to do. getting a small piece of pipe was the hard part though
Sand blast best way
Make a pipe anvil for bending metal.
not a bad idea
Where do I find the soundtrack music used?
any late 70s x rated movie.
UA-cam Music
I just started watching but they placement piece had so much ting when you handled it by the garage it sounded like gutter material (light weight).
It was 16 gauge, not to thick not to thin
@@mcfwelding yeah I heard that later on on the video after I made the comment. So is that part of the bed supposed to be structural at all? You have to admit when you look at one, that section and those little uprights sure do look beefy. I'd never expect they were formed from such light duty sheet material. Was the original metal thicker and the owner just wanted it to be cosmetically improved?
I’m not really sure as to why you’re using flux core instead of MIG
have you ever tried mig welding rusty metal? flux core will weld better with not so clean of metal compared to gas mig welding
@@mcfwelding i have, but honestly, im not experienced enough to have known that. Was an honest question. Just curious
MIG welding is similar to TIG in the sense that you always want the cleanest scenario. No rust
@@shannonlawsonnashville😂 you shouldve added a question mark bro
Always fun trying to fix something that is to bad to fix been there done that you did ok.
I hear you on that
grinding make my eyes watery 2:44
me too
Maybe a cheap sheet metal brake could bend that piece? But maybe not worth it if you aren’t going to use it often. Or spend the money on a press with a swag finger brake?
Thought about a small brake. Might get one in the future
Nothing Solid left to Weld New metal to on that Bed! Plasma cutter Would be ideal for Cutting the rusty metal out . I'd Use Better quality Wire than harbor freight though.
👍
Run like LH, uphill
Time to take the money you make on 4 or 5 jobs and put it into a plasma cutter. You won't regret it when jobs like this comes up.
Turned out nice, I would have welded it up the same way, flux cores the way to go being outdoors.
Yea mig would have been a disaster
👌
Man I would have just used a pipe cut in half and cut to fit
me too if I had some pipe laying around
I said the same thing.
bro u make greate job. But dont kill all rust.
All rust come gain (
Nice job, the owner could blast that rust off and then Rhino Line it, might help
good job mister
Your painting looks like "The Welders Apprentice" the way he's paying attention.
Huh
Rust? Man that bed's got Cancer.
you aint lying!
It's is only scrap
Biggest problem I've seen is that you didn't treat the old metal underneath to prevent further rusting inside or at least slow it down. You really did not accomplish much except to slow down the inevitable by missing that one step.
Was not paid to do that. Brought it up with the customer, he said to not do anything other than what i did.
@@mcfwelding so customer was just looking for a cheap and quick patch job rather than spend a little extra money to do things right. Sheesh!
@@richardcline1337 you'd find this hard to believe but alot of customers want things done cheap I don't like it but cash is cash and if he paid me my rate to this job and I'm happy with what I made on it, so be it. nature of the game
@@mcfwelding, no argument there. It's going to cost him in the long run but it's his truck, so....
Maybe he decided that was something he could do on his own, to save a little cash.
Terribly damaged by rust - the structural integrity compromised. But the steel patching creates a facade. The steel plate welded on is thin and add little strength. Truck later probably sold to some sucker - with degree of rust hidden. And they end up with a real lemon. And a danger to society.
Ok
You are a good welder.
Not criticizing you - I am criticizing the owner of the truck.
Welcome to the real world bud
@@danielvakulich8115 Yep. It’s ducked, isn’t it.
When life gives you lemons...
Thats the worst youve seen ?... you must not see much..look at rusted out bed im going to rebuild and youll see what i mean
I've seen much much worse. This is the worst I have worked on.
Just cover the rust with a new piece ? Why didn't you do sandblasting? I wouldn't pay for such crap
well your view of this video just paid me so thanks champ
Continue with the videos. Did you learn the job in Pakistan?
@@FlyingDutchman-th6nj TF, guy? Who shit in your Wheaties?
@@ProleDaddy his boyfriend 🌈
Bed cant be saved, all you are doing is putting lipstick on a pig.
And, thats basically what he said in the video.
you are correct, but this is what they wanted so why not get paid bub
Here's a rule of thumb. Any structural part removed from that truck should be replaced by a part of same or better gauge steel. Nothing like that flimsy sh!t that was used. I have never seen anyone actually post something so bad. It's a safety concern, but also a liability concern. If that truck ever got into an accident, the welder could be sued for such poor work. But...the owner wants it that way. Well, the welder can always refuse this kind of job.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 what ever makes you sleep at night
They could only be sued if the accident was caused by failure of their repair. And even then it's not a guarantee that anything would come from it.
@jaxithfox in order to PROVE it was the welders fault for the failure is EXTREMELY difficult and rare. Without a fatality, there won't even be an investigation into it. The welding police do NOT exist the way so many people think they do.
Though I agree it's a little thin and a thick piece wouldn't cost much more, odds are this truck belongs to some mехісаn who has no money to spare. That bring said, that part really isn't that structural.... when you go to dump, almost all the weight is on those two main inner frame rails. Considering there are countless mason dumps with the sides rusted off completely and in operation everyday, it doesn't even matter. Also, this isn't a triaxle dumping 27 tons, this little truck is rated for probably 1.5-2 tons. That's nothing not to mention probably half that weight is on the back hinge when going up...
Love it when armchair experts come up in the scene with the real knowledge. 👌🏼
Very painful to watch!
The job or the video? whats your angle here
not hard to do at all.
ok cool.
You’re the reason I dislike most people.
@@chrisacres awwww...pity,pity poop balls.
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