I'm just gonna keep saying this anywhere probably😆 Stelle overshadows Caelus, making him underrated. A lot of Stelle fans objectify her lol. Not all, but a lot of them. I don't see Caelus being objectified like Stelle when they're literally the same person. None of the 2 are better than the other, they're both the exact same person.
just a little fun fact, i read somewhere in twt that they purposely made the ult similar to emphasize on harmony, as if "dancing together in harmony" despite not knowing the existence of the other's presence, but u can still see remnants of stelle in the penacony trailer where caelus used his ult against sampo
Nice theory, an easier answer would be that its just a dance coreography. An even easier one would be that someone at hoyo just felt a bit lazy that day.
Yeah I've read that twt thread and it made a lot of sense. And another thing tht backs this theory up is the official quote: “Unknown to each other, yet united in purpose, we make the same choices.” Which implied Caelus was speaking to his other self (stelle) in the jp translation.
@@arcuslux516how? Just because she use mini skirt and dance? How can that become better? With that mini skirt stelle cannot move freely like caelus, look how different when they knee and jump, you can't freely do that like caelus when you use mini skirt😂
Honestly Destruction - both Preservation - feels like it fits caelus more ngl Harmony- honestly fits stelle more But it makes caelus look funny and fits the zesty imaginary trend lmao
I mean it's harmony, the entire idea about harmony is combining ideas, feelings, or actions, it wouldn't be harmony if the two mc has different ultimate animation (S - Copium)
0:27 Sella has her knee higher then Caelus does so they could technically be like the other ulti's, although I had to slow it down to .5 speed to notice the difference.
@Emiichoco weak af is more like it. Harmony tb is broken, and their ult animation is perfect for the character. Less flashy lights doesn't mean running out of budget. Fools be doing anything for clicks and views
At least for now I'm okay with this. It's not like both of them weren't far too occupied on Penacony to take dance lessons - Clockie's probably providing the choreography.
? It's the same dance but they do it different. Did you expect them both to do different dances? It's like expecting a difference between two people playing the same exact role. Sure they'll do it the same but in the end the movements are the same general direction.
Thiss, it's even noticeable in the stance at the beginning. Caelus has his arm out pointing as us, as if he knows he's putting on the show for us and trying to engage us, while Stelle has her arm holding the hat more firmly, looking a bit like she's mentally rehearsing the choreo, so it makes sense that her movements are more "perfected" than expressive
@@xsweetiebloomx605heard somebody say that stelle is more cold personality-wise and caelus a lot more rascal-like, so i LOVE this detail. (Tho i cant confirm stelle's personality for myself)
Can we talk about how cold Stelle is in the furst ult? I mean, while Caelus goes with all the rage he's got, she acts more confident and calm. It is really more intimidating to just gaze coldly at your opponent than yell at them (tried it myself). That's why I just love Stelle, she is cool.
caelus does a lil knee slide and their hand on chest poses are slightly different; if you go frame by frame you can see they're doing the same dance but it was definitely mocapped by two different people
I like both of their ults, I like the knee slide and I also like the visuals of Stelle standing there confidently while a pillar of flames erupt in the background
In terms of character movement complexity, the harmony is harder to achieve. As for the explosion and fire effects? anyone with a decent PC can make it.
People analyze it really slowly and come to realize his motions are more... exaggerated when he bends his knees he goes lower and the hip movements come in and I guess since he is a guy they look more exaggerated
@@thesnep4757tbh, I really like the preservation one... Literally screams teamwork which is the theme of the chapter is, both underworld and surface completely separated from each other despite fighting a single foe
it may unironicaly be because of the harmony, considering that you can actually use *both* caelus and stelle's stickers in sticker pack #14 (and they fit together perfectly: "It's you!" "Yes you.")
This also kinda happened with aether and lumine. For both geo and anemo they had different skill and ult lines. But since electro they've been the same.
It's literally lore accurate though At the start of Penacony, Acheron asks you 3 questions, you have a bunch of answers, and she says she can hear several versions of you answering differently At the end, she asks the same 3 questions, and you only have one option for each, and she says that all the answers she hears now are the same Plus, the Trailblazer's Harmony Eidolon activation voiceline is "Unknown to each other, yet united in purpose, we make the same choices" It is, very literally, lore accurate. Both of them are doing the same things because they are now in Harmony, despite being timelines apart from each other.
Caelus does a great knee slide, but Stelle goes a bit more into the posing. There's slight differences, but the main reason they're so similar is mostly because it's a shared animation with another character that has to do the same moves in both.
Their Path splash images are slightly different (indicating the start and end of dance respectively for Stelle and Caelus) - but ultimately, I think it makes a lot of sense of the Path of Harmony to bring their animations together like this. They're a cute duet!
The other reason why they have a very similar animation is likely cause of Clockie. Then they only technically have to animate Clockie's movements once.
Since Caelus has pants, his other leg goes more down at the animation, meanwhile Stelle actually having a brain, isn't wearing any pants and is bare legged so she has no choice but to slide in those heels, but it's still smooth tho.
0:31 stelle looks cool because her eyes has a certain glow to it under that lighting meanwhile we can't see Caelus eyes 🥲 making her look so cool doing her ult on 2x and not sure normal...i mever play normal speed who does💀
@@kgpadji2890Bro, I pulled Advent on accident and simply REFUSE to progress because I don't want the game to get harder while I grind him out in Belobog 😭😭😭 He's at 2.2k Def now though, but it's not enough. It's never enough...
One thing I noticed when slowing it down to 0.25x is that Caelus kicks a little higher than Stella Also, since Caelus slides on his knee. He’s flips the hat a little slower than Stella, out of Clockie’s hand because he’s lower. I find that detail very cool!
Simple Explanation: They're the exact same because it's a dance choreography so it has to be the same. ;-; They're both Clockie's backup dancers. Complex Explanation: Even though they are different, in the Penacony Trailblaze Mission, in the end, they both choose the exact same dialogue choices/options when asked by Acheron and stuff. This leads to them "Dancing Together in Harmony" as they have become "the same" because of the choices they chose. Blah Blah Blah lore stuff.
You could say....they're in harmony
underrated comment, but please stop (this ain't hate btw)
Damn, you beat me to it
Exactly 😂
Yes
@@semmi._.I THINK I understand
caelus doing that majestic knee slide always unnoticed 😢
FR! and I like that there's still different in their animation
Caelus also more expressive in his movement, bending and crossing his knees more
yeah, since he's taller than stelle and need to catch the hat which clockie throw at the same height for both of them.
I NOTICED
@Hanako_Sayuri69it would burn if she did the slide without pants
How do you not notice the knee slide for Caelus. It’s literally the best part of his ult.
Yeah that's the only bad thing I can think of about Stelle's skirt
I had to slow the video down to see his knee slide
Yeah! They didn't notice it bc they are sooo focus on Stelle
I'm just gonna keep saying this anywhere probably😆
Stelle overshadows Caelus, making him underrated.
A lot of Stelle fans objectify her lol. Not all, but a lot of them.
I don't see Caelus being objectified like Stelle when they're literally the same person. None of the 2 are better than the other, they're both the exact same person.
@@IceCoolingKspeak for yourself. being bisexual is amazing so i can simp for both 😤
just a little fun fact, i read somewhere in twt that they purposely made the ult similar to emphasize on harmony, as if "dancing together in harmony" despite not knowing the existence of the other's presence, but u can still see remnants of stelle in the penacony trailer where caelus used his ult against sampo
Nice theory, an easier answer would be that its just a dance coreography. An even easier one would be that someone at hoyo just felt a bit lazy that day.
Yeah I've read that twt thread and it made a lot of sense. And another thing tht backs this theory up is the official quote:
“Unknown to each other, yet united in purpose, we make the same choices.”
Which implied Caelus was speaking to his other self (stelle) in the jp translation.
@@hangeloarias7580yes easy theories, that's why no one is saying them
There's even an achievement where you've to chat with other player that have opposite gender of your TB. I forgot the name of the achievement.
@@sharkdududu123 the achievement is called To The Other Me
From a Bat, to a Flaming Sword, now becoming Michael Jackson
Welcome back, Dante from the Devil May Cry series
blud clearly never heard "flaming LANCE, forward"
@@velociraptorblue7172 i know…
Just summarising this in a nutshell
@@sebastiankon123 yeah sorry... ego got the better of me
@@velociraptorblue7172 a rare specimen of almost extinct race. The internet gentelman
This could be a W tho so both Stella and Caelus mains won't complain that the other tb has a better dance
True...
But OBVIOUSLY Stelle is better
@@arcuslux516nah.
Stelle can't dance freely with that mini skirt and look forced.
@@arcuslux516how?
Just because she use mini skirt and dance? How can that become better?
With that mini skirt stelle cannot move freely like caelus, look how different when they knee and jump, you can't freely do that like caelus when you use mini skirt😂
@@BrahaWon you need to chill, jfc lmao
Honestly
Destruction - both
Preservation - feels like it fits caelus more ngl
Harmony- honestly fits stelle more
But it makes caelus look funny and fits the zesty imaginary trend lmao
I mean why da hail do people not noticed caelus's majestic knee slide? Is it that hard to notice
Yes, it is.
ikr why do people keep saying they're identical
They're too focus on Stelle that's why
because it's just a very quick frame detail that doesn't really stand out
yes
0:28 Caelus slay💅🏻
brother ate
"Please stay tuned🔥🔥💅💅"
They both slaying it, just saying
gorgeous right
@@skell6134 And she is just complimenting caelus just saying.
Yep, set the video to 0.25 speed and Caelus does a knee slide while Stelle is standing
k what ever it takes for you to be happy over women lol
@@kyero8724dawg what
Bro that is NOT what he said 😂😂 get yo butthurt ass outta here@@kyero8724
@@kyero8724 You have issues, my guy.
To be fair he taller
The huohuo getting hit and talking at the same time at the end tho
She can, NOT, in fact do this
I mean it's harmony, the entire idea about harmony is combining ideas, feelings, or actions, it wouldn't be harmony if the two mc has different ultimate animation (S - Copium)
Caleus is slightly more zesty in his harmony form
caelus was always zesty
💀no, w3irdo, touch grass
@@osrarulgirl wha
We love Caelus, our zesty king 💅
HE LITERALLY IS my jaw dropped open when i used his technique for the first time
*Stelle/Caelus:* You've been hit by 👏👏 a smooth Stellaron. 😎
0:27 Sella has her knee higher then Caelus does so they could technically be like the other ulti's, although I had to slow it down to .5 speed to notice the difference.
It makes sense though. Both Caelus and Stelle harmoniously dancing.
I can't tell if this is genuinely a complaint over the littlest thing 💀
peak hoyo's fan behaviour tbh
Truly one of trivial things fans would complain about.
This entire video is weird af
@Emiichoco weak af is more like it. Harmony tb is broken, and their ult animation is perfect for the character. Less flashy lights doesn't mean running out of budget. Fools be doing anything for clicks and views
@@bluemorpho3221 FR!! It's so sad to think about it😩
Actual reason is very simple:
They're backup dancers for Clockie. So the choreography has to be similar.
Hoyo was like: "it's called harmony right? MAKE THEM IN SYNC!!"
Caelus with that knee slide tho.
CLEAN AF.
which knee slide I can't even see it😭
@@Numberonedazaihater-n4rthe beginning of his dance
@@Numberonedazaihater-n4rMy brother you are blind😅
@@cesarmiranda9981i'm sorry that my first language isn't english?? i guess??
Honestly I like how similar these animations are. It feels like they are continuing Mikhael's legacy no matter who they are
Caelus' knee slide is zesty and I love it 💙
what 🤣
They really said, Caelus youre now DMC3 Dante
Caelus has fully embraced his Jojo Side.
No way did you not notice best boi caelus FREAKING SLIDE MY BOI IS CHAD SLIDDING
"Unknown to each other, yet united in purpose. We make the same choices."
At least for now I'm okay with this. It's not like both of them weren't far too occupied on Penacony to take dance lessons - Clockie's probably providing the choreography.
Maybe they thought the dance was too good that they just copy pasted it on the other tb and called it a day 👍
It is a good dance, also I think it's because it's the dance at the end of the white night video
There are actual differences though, its just really hard to spot with everything going on
The same? No no-there’s atleast 3 differences
Then when they make it different you guys keep comparing and complaining Stelle's/ Caelus's one is better... Smh
? It's the same dance but they do it different. Did you expect them both to do different dances? It's like expecting a difference between two people playing the same exact role. Sure they'll do it the same but in the end the movements are the same general direction.
The ult is the same but the skill looks different. For Stelle the giant clockie face does a wink but for Caelus both eyes are opened
And Caelus does a knee slide too
It also looks hysterical in 2x speed 💀
Its not bad in youtube 2× speed
@@maingrader4434there talking about in game it looks so weird I love it tho
Yea when I see it in x2 there is penis music playing in my head and I can't get rid of that thought
Yea and i guess theyre saying its not bad in youtube's 2x speed as opposed to ingame@@rileynortwood2336
Goofy Ahh Sound Effects
Caelus also is smiling when doing the scene quite openly whilst Stelle has one of her shadows of a smile.
What are you talking about? They smile the same. They are one person. Stop inventing some non-existent actions for them
Let's be real, the star in that ult animation is Clockie, not us
Caelus in other pathes: imma beat yo ahh up 😡
Harmony: we groovin'
Watch it slowmo and theres a big difference kinda, caelus is wayyy more expressive in his movement
Thiss, it's even noticeable in the stance at the beginning. Caelus has his arm out pointing as us, as if he knows he's putting on the show for us and trying to engage us, while Stelle has her arm holding the hat more firmly, looking a bit like she's mentally rehearsing the choreo, so it makes sense that her movements are more "perfected" than expressive
@@xsweetiebloomx605heard somebody say that stelle is more cold personality-wise and caelus a lot more rascal-like, so i LOVE this detail. (Tho i cant confirm stelle's personality for myself)
@@julialungan4722Yes from my experience Stelle can be very cold lol
he's so girlypop 😭
@@WindyWooshes She is not cold and they are literally the same. Stop talking fictitious nonsense
What, you'd rather have Stelle tap dance or something while Caelus being the only one who goes full Michael Jackson?
i think they want stelle to pole dancing
@@kurosensescowards. If they want pole dancing both should do it.
@@kurosenses wouldn't complain if they did it...
bro what 💀
@@elea12601wouldn't it be nice if the main character gets thirsted up too
Can we talk about how cold Stelle is in the furst ult? I mean, while Caelus goes with all the rage he's got, she acts more confident and calm. It is really more intimidating to just gaze coldly at your opponent than yell at them (tried it myself). That's why I just love Stelle, she is cool.
same
Tbh caelus is much more zesty
@@ciabox284k cope
@@ciabox284kCaelus can be whatever they want him to be lmao, beauty of hoyoverse characters
@@ciabox284k mf what? How can you not think that he looks hella zesty with the Harmony path
@@ciabox284kAh yes, the contrarian 🍿🍿🍿🍿
@@ciabox284kDon’t even think it’s them being forced, he dead ass looks so zesty in his idle before skill 💀
Caelus did it better in Rules and is meant to be broken than Stelle. That's one of the reasons I picked him. He gives more emotions
REALLL LOVE CAELUS 🔥🔥🔥
Womp womp
@@3thr3al1stwhat. Are people not allowed to have a preference?
@@lulooperHES THE MAN🔥🔥🔥
I like Bat Stelle more but I like Lance Caelus
caelus does a lil knee slide and their hand on chest poses are slightly different; if you go frame by frame you can see they're doing the same dance but it was definitely mocapped by two different people
Male:RULES, ARE MEANT TO BE BROKEN!!
Female: Rules are meant to be broken~
Destruction - Bat
Preservation - Lance
Harmony - Hat
ice - mint gum + water
@@Dravi0nimagine they just threw solid water at the enemies
Caelus got that extra bit of rizz
They put all the budget into the music 💀
it went all went to Robin's song
don't bully the music company that makes games on the side!
I like both of their ults, I like the knee slide and I also like the visuals of Stelle standing there confidently while a pillar of flames erupt in the background
the dance of harmony is the same because it should be, but the pose and everything has their own signature
But...they're literally in *HARMONY*
Bro hoyo didnt had to make caelus that zesty with that knee slide 😭😭
yeah they did he’s tall he’s gonna bend down to reach clockie XD
In terms of character movement complexity, the harmony is harder to achieve.
As for the explosion and fire effects? anyone with a decent PC can make it.
Why stelle look so cool bro. I love her expression and style
Why does the male version look so much cooler 😢
Bro they never run out money 💰
They got millions from the Father banner in Genshin alone.
Honkai Star Rail made over $100 million last month too lol
@@talesoflight2024 genshin make near 66 billion now 2024 stop thinking too much they never poor
It's funny to think that, since this is the first ult that is actually similar with each other, why so many people insist this fits Caelus better.
People analyze it really slowly and come to realize his motions are more... exaggerated when he bends his knees he goes lower and the hip movements come in and I guess since he is a guy they look more exaggerated
lets be honest the harmony tb has the best splash art and its so good
It is a good one, I'm quite partial to Caelus's preservation one as well. Booty.
@@thesnep4757tbh, I really like the preservation one... Literally screams teamwork which is the theme of the chapter is, both underworld and surface completely separated from each other despite fighting a single foe
The dude has the style, has the drip, man he is badaaas
it may unironicaly be because of the harmony, considering that you can actually use *both* caelus and stelle's stickers in sticker pack #14 (and they fit together perfectly: "It's you!" "Yes you.")
huo huo getting bullied at the end, truly a crying huo huo moment
Caelus looks kinda like dante with Faust hat, so stylish!
the difference is how bad the scoliosis is. And Caelus obviously won
All their money went to that Las vegas ad 💀
This also kinda happened with aether and lumine. For both geo and anemo they had different skill and ult lines. But since electro they've been the same.
stelle slays everytime but gotta give it to my boy harmony caelus his animations were majestic indeed
It's literally lore accurate though
At the start of Penacony, Acheron asks you 3 questions, you have a bunch of answers, and she says she can hear several versions of you answering differently
At the end, she asks the same 3 questions, and you only have one option for each, and she says that all the answers she hears now are the same
Plus, the Trailblazer's Harmony Eidolon activation voiceline is "Unknown to each other, yet united in purpose, we make the same choices"
It is, very literally, lore accurate. Both of them are doing the same things because they are now in Harmony, despite being timelines apart from each other.
i mean cactus got that knee slide
Everyone talks about caelus, but no one talks about how rich clockwork moves
Caelus does a great knee slide, but Stelle goes a bit more into the posing. There's slight differences, but the main reason they're so similar is mostly because it's a shared animation with another character that has to do the same moves in both.
Their Path splash images are slightly different (indicating the start and end of dance respectively for Stelle and Caelus) - but ultimately, I think it makes a lot of sense of the Path of Harmony to bring their animations together like this. They're a cute duet!
holy hell some of the comments did not pass the vibe check
Neither did the guy who posted this video. There is zero context on what the issue is , the title cries so loudly about. :x
lol, "vibe check" stfu
They used all their budget on animating Dan Heng and Jing Yuan smoking Sunday
“Maybe I can do this- HWUUGH”
The other reason why they have a very similar animation is likely cause of Clockie. Then they only technically have to animate Clockie's movements once.
If you pause it you will actually notice variations
The dance is sick tho 🔥😩
I'm just glad that we Stelle enjoyers finally didn't get shafted. Caelus' ultimate animations are so much damn cooler.
Actually, Caelus doesn't look cooler. Just the angle of the camera is so close up than Stelle for unknown reason.
@@bimoprakoso2820yes it does, deal with it
Since Caelus has pants, his other leg goes more down at the animation, meanwhile Stelle actually having a brain, isn't wearing any pants and is bare legged so she has no choice but to slide in those heels, but it's still smooth tho.
it's a choreography, that's why their movements are identical
“M-maybe I can do this?- AAAH-“
Caelus wins with that sick slide in the beginning of his ult..yet another reason I'm so happy i chose him😎😎😎😎😎
Harmony Eidolon Activation: "Unknown to each other, yet united in purpose, we make the same choices."
I love the ult. i love the whacky lighthearted chaos of it.
The fandom seeing harmony trailblazers: “OH NO THEYRE HOTTT(ER)”
All money went into that dance animation
0:31 stelle looks cool because her eyes has a certain glow to it under that lighting meanwhile we can't see Caelus eyes 🥲 making her look so cool doing her ult on 2x and not sure normal...i mever play normal speed who does💀
i play at 1x speed 🗿
@@velociraptorblue7172 So do I, but I don't have their Harmony path yet since I'm still in Belobog farming relics.
@@kgpadji2890Bro, I pulled Advent on accident and simply REFUSE to progress because I don't want the game to get harder while I grind him out in Belobog 😭😭😭
He's at 2.2k Def now though, but it's not enough. It's never enough...
I always do, it looks just as cool in normal.
Yeah, Caelus' eyes are smaller, so we can't see it unless we lock in 🥵
just realised you get caelus assshot in his destruction ult 💀
Caelius doing nanami blackflash in perseverance
Dante's smooth criminal style in DMC5... Hoyoverse: take note Devs, take note!! We want "that" in "this"
Pause at any frame of their ult and they are different
Their poses at the beggining are different, plus, did you see’s Caeulus’s beautiful knee-slide!
The fact that this ultimate animation is part of white night mv was kinda foreshadowing
bye whys caelus so extra that knee slide was uncslled forr
That knee slide was fire 🤌🔥
@@NayuzAqua fr tho
They are the HARMONY path after all.
Just the dance animation took all the budget for the ultimate animation...
One thing I noticed when slowing it down to 0.25x is that Caelus kicks a little higher than Stella
Also, since Caelus slides on his knee. He’s flips the hat a little slower than Stella, out of Clockie’s hand because he’s lower. I find that detail very cool!
Simple Explanation: They're the exact same because it's a dance choreography so it has to be the same. ;-; They're both Clockie's backup dancers.
Complex Explanation: Even though they are different, in the Penacony Trailblaze Mission, in the end, they both choose the exact same dialogue choices/options when asked by Acheron and stuff. This leads to them "Dancing Together in Harmony" as they have become "the same" because of the choices they chose. Blah Blah Blah lore stuff.
Firefly would be blushing hard right now
Can't speak
I can't speak
I wanted you to know
That I am ready to go, heartbeat
My heartbeat
Caelus sounds a lot angrier and aggressive when he’s about to unleash his ultimate…
It's coreography, a dance with those steps, what you'd expect?
I think it was mainly because in this they are interacting with another NPC.
Because we are saving firefly with that one🗣️
there are actually many slight different in their harmony ult animation tho
IMO they really should have cut the first half of the harmony animation and mate the rest 2x slower, so that it looks good at 2x speed