Appreciate your candid views on the relative ‘value’ of cameras. As you say, it’s most often the skills of the videographer and not just how expensive a camera is. It’s very easy to get sucked into the marketing that pushes new technologies. For example the hype about the new “global shutter” eliminating rolling shutter effects. For those old enough to remember using film, there was no rolling shutter with film either.😊
This video was just what I needed. I am in the market for a camera now. I've spent days reading reviews and watching videos. With each passing day, it feels like my budget is increasing. My budget started out at $700, and now I find myself studying $1200 cameras. It really is unnecessary for what I'm trying to do. Thanks for the advice.
Hey that’s incredible, thanks so much for leaving this comment. Makes all the work behind the scenes worth it- you’re the reason I’m making these videos. Enjoy your new camera!
Im barely beginning to learn photography and videography, I was actually gonna buy the a7iii but ended up getting the zve10. This video just confirmed that at this stage in my journey i made the right choice. Thanks for the video!
The actual key difference is ZV-E10 is an 8-bit camera. If you are making anything that does much of anything in post production more than selecting cuts you are not a beginner, and this ZV-E10 will not deliver the needed footage
Yeah definitely respect your opinion but 100% could not disagree more. TLDR; it’s the filmmaker that matters, not their camera. I considered mentioning the 8 but vs 10 bit color in this video but opted not to. Are there times when 10 bit come in handy? Yeah definitely- I’d pretty much never shoot log on the e10 bc of the 8 bit color. But having worked on big commercial projects, films, and international campaigns for over 10 years doing quite a bit more than ‘selecting cuts’, I can assure you that if someone needs 10 bit color to get a precessional final product, they are the problem not the camera. Spicy take 🌶️ 😬 but I’d be surprised if any of my colleagues would disagree with me. So why did I leave it out in this video? Well I could make a list of 20 reasons the a7Siii is a better camera on a technical level, but this video would end up being an hour long or more. So I grabbed five of the things I felt like most people would consider the most prominent and focused on those to make a larger point- one some people missed (my miscommunication) if they’re distracted by other things like color, size, button options, full size hdmi ports, dual recording, etc. At the end of the day, it’s the filmmaker that makes incredible films regardless of what tools they have at their disposal- not the camera they have access to. Thinking you need premium features to do more than select cuts and make home videos is simply misguided. That was the point I was trying to make in this video. With that said, I definitely respect that not everyone has the same opinions. That’s totally fine. Really appreciate the comment even though I don’t agree. Just hope you’re getting out there and making some BANGER films 😉🔥
@@VisionaryFilmStudiosI agree, they shot ‘Frances Ha’ and ‘Like Crazy’ on cameras way inferior to this one in terms of specs or whatever, and some great films have been shot on VHS cassettes and iPhones.
Already did 😉 Here’s a link: CINEMATIC Sony ZV-e10 Camera Rig ua-cam.com/video/PUm-BwZl3uE/v-deo.html Everything I use to rig it out is linked in the description 💪
@@VisionaryFilmStudios thank you, do you think this would all be good for me and my page? I’m looking to kinda do something similar to sam sulek, and it will be on a tripod since I workout alone
This was great. I can tell there’s a few people triggered by what you’re saying, because having to accept the fact that they blew thousands of dollars on gear when they could have gotten just as good of a result for a fraction of the cost is a hard pill to swallow. You obviously have spent your share as well, but still have the sincerity to be honest and recommend better for us. As someone who owns a zv e10, this was inspiring to watch. Thanks for putting in the effort. Keep it up.
Lighting + Color + Good Sound goes a LONG way! Working on making a breakdown video for the color grade for the short film I talked about in the video so stay tuned for that 😉 should be up in the next 24 hours
with decent lighting you can get away with using a t2i for youtube and no one would notice. heck you could use your phone and most wont notice or really care
Takes a minute to learn the tricks of the trade lol- grab a cheap lens and just get out there and start creating though. That’s how you’ll really get good at this 😉
Yeah for sports I think you made the right call for sure. I shot some baseball games a couple years ago and the rolling shutter on the ZVe10 would definitely have caused problems. Sii is a great camera for sure! Hyped to hear you’re crushing it out there 💪
Glad you’re crushing it out there! Imo the buy rate and 10 bit color isn’t a big deal either- that’s why I didn’t include either in this video. Could make a list of 20 ways the Siii is better on a technical level, but my conclusion would be the same. None are a huge deal, and you can shoot just as great of content from either camera. Hope your next project is a BANGER! 🔥🔥
Got dayum bro... $10k rig?...I have both cameras but only off brand lens and a silicone skin for the a7siii....all totals under $4k.... And my footage still sucks on both tbh lol. But the A7siii looks better without editing...😮
This guy is a phoney, don't believe everything he says. Probably throwing big numbers out there to draw in the viewer. He's trying to make an argument about zve10 vs a7s iii and that's just crazy
Yeah it’s a bit intense lol. Between the camera, a good zoom lens, CRAZY expensive sd cards, v mount battery system, rigging, external audio recorder, etc it def gets crazy. Great camera though
Great camera! Only used it once but if you can afford it, definitely can get some great stuff! Imo, not worth the extra cash, but if you’ve got it get it!
Unpopular opinion: go Used Market and get a GH5S for about $550 USD. same sensor as the one used in the BGH1 (with some minor adjustments to Dynamic Range and Color Science) and that camera is "Netflix Approved". Stop relying on Auto Focus to save you, Real Filmmakers use manual focus or cine lenses that are only Manual Focus. Start training yourself early. If your a vlogger and not serious about filmmaking then yes, ZV-E10
Love the GH5S, know several guys that shoot with this and put out some awesome stuff. Great take, don’t totally agree, but a good take nonetheless. TLDR; cine lenses are better, but imo not a defining feature of a ‘real filmmaker’. And ‘Netflix approval’ isn’t a great metric to analyze cameras. You definitely can get some nicer footage using cine lenses- would be hard to disagree with that. But not totally sold on ‘real filmmakers’ use cine lenses. Depends on how to define a real filmmaker I guess. I make a living making commercials and films but don’t use cine lenses. I know plenty of other guys in the same boat (including the ones that shoot I’m on the GH5S actually). Does that make us not ‘real filmmakers’? I’d say that’s not a defining feature, but to each they’re own. As far as ‘Netflix Approved’ cameras- I’ve never heard a professional use that as a metric for a good camera… the only people I hear care about it is amateurs who aren’t actually making a living or shooting big projects. The ‘Netflix approval’ is just the list of cameras they use for their films anyway- they still buy films that was shot on another camera. I know people with netflix license deals that 100% did not shoot on ‘Netflix approved’ cameras. It’s not that big of a deal… Like I said that, really appreciate your take! And complexly agree that shooting on cine lenses will (generally) improve the visual quality of your films. Just not convinced by any of those ‘do this or you’re not a real filmmaker’ philosophies. Hope your next project turns out the be a BANGER 🔥🔥
Appreciate your candid views on the relative ‘value’ of cameras. As you say, it’s most often the skills of the videographer and not just how expensive a camera is.
It’s very easy to get sucked into the marketing that pushes new technologies. For example the hype about the new “global shutter” eliminating rolling shutter effects. For those old enough to remember using film, there was no rolling shutter with film either.😊
Definitely a lot of hype and shiny object that distract from the real mission to MAKE FILMS! Great take, thanks for the comment 🔥
This video was just what I needed. I am in the market for a camera now. I've spent days reading reviews and watching videos. With each passing day, it feels like my budget is increasing. My budget started out at $700, and now I find myself studying $1200 cameras. It really is unnecessary for what I'm trying to do.
Thanks for the advice.
Hey that’s incredible, thanks so much for leaving this comment. Makes all the work behind the scenes worth it- you’re the reason I’m making these videos.
Enjoy your new camera!
I really appreciate your knowledge and info on this camera reminding me it’s me and not the camera holding me back 💯💯💪🏾💪🏾
Im barely beginning to learn photography and videography, I was actually gonna buy the a7iii but ended up getting the zve10. This video just confirmed that at this stage in my journey i made the right choice. Thanks for the video!
So glad to hear! Thanks for leaving this comment- really means a lot to me. You’re who I’m making these videos for!
Enjoy the camera!!
The actual key difference is ZV-E10 is an 8-bit camera. If you are making anything that does much of anything in post production more than selecting cuts you are not a beginner, and this ZV-E10 will not deliver the needed footage
Yeah definitely respect your opinion but 100% could not disagree more. TLDR; it’s the filmmaker that matters, not their camera.
I considered mentioning the 8 but vs 10 bit color in this video but opted not to. Are there times when 10 bit come in handy? Yeah definitely- I’d pretty much never shoot log on the e10 bc of the 8 bit color. But having worked on big commercial projects, films, and international campaigns for over 10 years doing quite a bit more than ‘selecting cuts’, I can assure you that if someone needs 10 bit color to get a precessional final product, they are the problem not the camera. Spicy take 🌶️ 😬 but I’d be surprised if any of my colleagues would disagree with me.
So why did I leave it out in this video? Well I could make a list of 20 reasons the a7Siii is a better camera on a technical level, but this video would end up being an hour long or more. So I grabbed five of the things I felt like most people would consider the most prominent and focused on those to make a larger point- one some people missed (my miscommunication) if they’re distracted by other things like color, size, button options, full size hdmi ports, dual recording, etc.
At the end of the day, it’s the filmmaker that makes incredible films regardless of what tools they have at their disposal- not the camera they have access to. Thinking you need premium features to do more than select cuts and make home videos is simply misguided. That was the point I was trying to make in this video.
With that said, I definitely respect that not everyone has the same opinions. That’s totally fine. Really appreciate the comment even though I don’t agree. Just hope you’re getting out there and making some BANGER films 😉🔥
I'd say the rolling shutter is far more important. It's horrendous on the ZV-E10 in 4k24, the worst of essentially any camera ever made.
@@VisionaryFilmStudiosI agree, they shot ‘Frances Ha’ and ‘Like Crazy’ on cameras way inferior to this one in terms of specs or whatever, and some great films have been shot on VHS cassettes and iPhones.
@@r2d2rxr so true!
Can you make a video about everything you have rigged on the zve-10 here
Already did 😉
Here’s a link: CINEMATIC Sony ZV-e10 Camera Rig
ua-cam.com/video/PUm-BwZl3uE/v-deo.html
Everything I use to rig it out is linked in the description 💪
@@VisionaryFilmStudios thank you, do you think this would all be good for me and my page? I’m looking to kinda do something similar to sam sulek, and it will be on a tripod since I workout alone
This is so enlightening! Thanks!
Glad to be of service 😉💪🏻
This was great. I can tell there’s a few people triggered by what you’re saying, because having to accept the fact that they blew thousands of dollars on gear when they could have gotten just as good of a result for a fraction of the cost is a hard pill to swallow. You obviously have spent your share as well, but still have the sincerity to be honest and recommend better for us. As someone who owns a zv e10, this was inspiring to watch. Thanks for putting in the effort. Keep it up.
Amazing video my friend. I love your no-nonsense approach. Please keep doing you!
Doing my best!! Appreciate the support 💪🏻
It’s all about the lighting and color grading IMO. Great video though !!
Lighting + Color + Good Sound goes a LONG way!
Working on making a breakdown video for the color grade for the short film I talked about in the video so stay tuned for that 😉 should be up in the next 24 hours
with decent lighting you can get away with using a t2i for youtube and no one would notice. heck you could use your phone and most wont notice or really care
💯
Currently have a sony fx30 with no lens yet hahaha hard hobby to start
Takes a minute to learn the tricks of the trade lol- grab a cheap lens and just get out there and start creating though. That’s how you’ll really get good at this 😉
i just switched from the zve-10 to a7sii abt a week ago. I do sports video graphy and its defo worth it
a7sii is crazy value right now. ppl seem to have forgotten about it with all the new cameras coming out.
Yeah for sports I think you made the right call for sure. I shot some baseball games a couple years ago and the rolling shutter on the ZVe10 would definitely have caused problems.
Sii is a great camera for sure! Hyped to hear you’re crushing it out there 💪
@@VisionaryFilmStudios yes i meant to say A7siii not sii but yeah im really enjoying it
Amazing
10 bit.. And bit Rate .. But yeah as a broke video maker I love my ZV-E10 and I get great images out of it.
Glad you’re crushing it out there! Imo the buy rate and 10 bit color isn’t a big deal either- that’s why I didn’t include either in this video. Could make a list of 20 ways the Siii is better on a technical level, but my conclusion would be the same. None are a huge deal, and you can shoot just as great of content from either camera.
Hope your next project is a BANGER! 🔥🔥
Got dayum bro... $10k rig?...I have both cameras but only off brand lens and a silicone skin for the a7siii....all totals under $4k.... And my footage still sucks on both tbh lol. But the A7siii looks better without editing...😮
This guy is a phoney, don't believe everything he says. Probably throwing big numbers out there to draw in the viewer. He's trying to make an argument about zve10 vs a7s iii and that's just crazy
Yeah it’s a bit intense lol. Between the camera, a good zoom lens, CRAZY expensive sd cards, v mount battery system, rigging, external audio recorder, etc it def gets crazy. Great camera though
Is it just me or is he semi out of focus at the start when he's speaking?
Probably just UA-cam compression 😉
@@VisionaryFilmStudios so weird, the cameras are really sharp but your face is soft
Orrrr FX-30. Duh!!!!
Great camera! Only used it once but if you can afford it, definitely can get some great stuff! Imo, not worth the extra cash, but if you’ve got it get it!
Unpopular opinion: go Used Market and get a GH5S for about $550 USD. same sensor as the one used in the BGH1 (with some minor adjustments to Dynamic Range and Color Science) and that camera is "Netflix Approved". Stop relying on Auto Focus to save you, Real Filmmakers use manual focus or cine lenses that are only Manual Focus. Start training yourself early. If your a vlogger and not serious about filmmaking then yes, ZV-E10
Love the GH5S, know several guys that shoot with this and put out some awesome stuff. Great take, don’t totally agree, but a good take nonetheless.
TLDR; cine lenses are better, but imo not a defining feature of a ‘real filmmaker’. And ‘Netflix approval’ isn’t a great metric to analyze cameras.
You definitely can get some nicer footage using cine lenses- would be hard to disagree with that.
But not totally sold on ‘real filmmakers’ use cine lenses. Depends on how to define a real filmmaker I guess. I make a living making commercials and films but don’t use cine lenses. I know plenty of other guys in the same boat (including the ones that shoot I’m on the GH5S actually). Does that make us not ‘real filmmakers’? I’d say that’s not a defining feature, but to each they’re own.
As far as ‘Netflix Approved’ cameras- I’ve never heard a professional use that as a metric for a good camera… the only people I hear care about it is amateurs who aren’t actually making a living or shooting big projects. The ‘Netflix approval’ is just the list of cameras they use for their films anyway- they still buy films that was shot on another camera. I know people with netflix license deals that 100% did not shoot on ‘Netflix approved’ cameras. It’s not that big of a deal…
Like I said that, really appreciate your take! And complexly agree that shooting on cine lenses will (generally) improve the visual quality of your films. Just not convinced by any of those ‘do this or you’re not a real filmmaker’ philosophies.
Hope your next project turns out the be a BANGER 🔥🔥
Orrrr FX-30. Duh!!!!
Solid camera! I’ve only used it once on someone else’s shoot but if you can afford it, def a great camera!