@@Dark_S_9. End of the war?! Are you mental. At the end of the war, the German army was consistently losing more men dead than the Soviets. The Soviets by that point were likely the most skilled army in the world on the tactical and operational levels, far outclassing the Western Allies.
@@borris3768 That's also inaccurate, the book which originally gave that obscene figure (60 million) has since had most of it's authours turn it's back on it. Realistically speaking, Stalin killed somewhere in the region of 10-20 million people. Hitler on the other hand, (including all the Soviet civillians and soldiers that he either killed or starved to death during WW2) has likely got somewhere in the region of 30-40 million AT LEAST. This does not at all account for the fact that Stalin was in power for more than twice as long and ended up winning his war which meant he had free rein in Eastern Europe. Not nearly as many deaths occured under him as would have under Hitler (Hunger Plan has estimates of 50-100 million Soviet civillians being starved to death). So no, that statement is in fact wrong.
The first ten minutes of this film are totally unforgettable. From where the soldiers are unloaded from the trains and herded across the river into the meat grinder.
Never mind that it didn't happen. The Soviets had millions of Mosin-Nagants in storage and after dropping the plan to convert to SVT-40s, production of the Mosin-Nagant was increased (it was much cheaper and faster to produce in large quantities then the SVT-40). They certainly didn't lack rifles to give to their soldiers.
@@kovesp1 that may be, but in Stalingrad they did. The city wasn't well supplied during the EARLIER stages. They were so poorly supplied, they even had to use ww1 artillery during the earlier phases of the battle. They supplies and reinforcements poured in later on
@@joshuaandre8911 As far as I can recall, no such shortages are mentioned by any of the reputable military historians writing on the topic: Glantz, Erickson, Overy, Beevor, ... Same goes for the memoirs of Chuikov and Zhukov, but I suspect you'll just discount that.
@Hammerschlägen M except there's not, the only truth is that the later executed a few deserters, similar how they used to do in ww1 all over the place. but shooting soldiers that were running back is bs.
Just one problem,The mg 42 was still in the prototype stage when this was happening. It should have been the mg 34. Since the mg 42 is still used in some armies,im shure it was easier to get for the movie. I think they did a nice job replicating this battle. It was a good movie!
The Russians had a weapon shortage in WW1, but in WW2 they had plenty of weapons. Russians fielded more sub-machine guns than any other country in the war combined. From John Erickson's book - The Road To Stalingrad - January to December 1942: Manpower Germany 250,000 Soviet 187,000 Machine Carbines German 524,473 Soviet 952,332 Light Machine Guns German 71,923 Soviet 100,183
This movie takes place during the battle of Stalingrad.. Initially, the number of German soldiers were 270,000 vs Soviet soldiers 187,000.. And by the time of the Soviet counter attack, the number of German soldiers rose to 1,040,000 whilst the Soviet number rose to 1,143,000... YES hardly the 5:1 ratio... you fucking moron. Stay away from history kid. Leave it to the adults.
All these people arguing insignificant shit and no one noticed the real problem with this scene. Almost none of those mosins have bayonets fixed on them! What is this bullshit?
***** Have you ever owned a mosin or seen picture of WW2 Russians dumbshit? A mosin is zeroed in the factory with the bayonet fixed, therefore the bayonets were meant to be fixed at all times.
***** True as you state, however, a good many of the rifles had their bayonets cut off in the field so the soldiers had something to slice the cheese loaves with. They were also sold on the black market to gay bath house owners to be used as painful spanking implements.
You know what another significant problem is? I don't think panzers with 50 mm cannon create little magical puffs of smoke. Also, the gun fires 3 times every second, not humanly possible to load a gun, that big, that fast.
Imagine being in Russia or Germany in the 1990s and seeing old men sitting on the park bench feeding the pigeons reconciling their past and remembering fallen comrades while you mistakenly believe they did nothing with their lives.
I grew up in Moscow in the 1980's. Honestly, I don't remember meeting many veterans who'd served in WW2. Those guys - even if they'd survived the war - didn't live too much past 60-70.
Many of the real Soviets which fought the war where already dead in the 60s or even faster. Most of the German lived also up till the 80s and 90s. These elder ones you see today are Folks from the Hitler Jugend. On the Post-soviet side however i have a strong suggestion that the elders of today just pinned some medals and are pretending today that they fougth the real deal when in fact they did nothing or where deployed 100kms behind the front.
The logic behind it was that, you would have the unarmed charge just behind those with the rifles. So that once he got shot you could pick up the rifle and keep fighting. A good example of this is CoD: Finest Hour. They replicated the situation for every 2nd person to be in the weapons line would get an ammo clip instead of rifle. If one were to die holding a rifle, you were to pick up his rifle and shoot.
Brock lacey This whole idea is quite inaccurate as it wasn't happening by this point in Stalingrad. The reinforcements coming from the East bank of the Volga were well kitted out with submachine guns and grenades, they were equipped for street fighting.
Just so you know - The soviets didnt actually do suicidal frontal charges...they did the opposite. (The japanese were famous for kamikaze frontal charges tho) Soviets used bombed out buildings or whatever confined areas that could be defended to stay close to the germans in order to negate their artillery, airforce and tanks. Without area of effect weaponry and technological superiority the fights would devolve into a slow and grinding close combat hell in a labyrinth of buildings.
Frontal charges were a thing during all the early war, not only the Soviets did them but the Germans and French as well, same with Italians. Because the concept of combined tactics still was evolving
@@idlearctic592 I don't think all of those people were willingly sacrificed. But hey salute to all who died in a conflict of old men bickering and clinging to actions of the past.
No. During the first part of the war, suicidal charges were very common. The Russians employed the same tactics as during the First World War. I read the testimony of a German soldier who was fighting on the Eastern Front. He said "The russians were charging in a compact mass of infantry, facing our machine guns. Before rushing forward and while they were running, they were shouting 'hooray!!!' I wonder why they were shouting like that. We hardly had to aim. They were falling by the hundreds"
CreeptheCreepers what a pipe dream. Most outside 51 would be too stoned, too busy complaining about the patriarchy or confused about what bathroom to use. 2 well placed shots and they would all run back to their parents basement.
props to the german soldier standing two feet to the right of a tank barrel as it fires, given how much air concussion there is from even a large rifle muzzle flash. employee of the week, right there
boys locker room: Battle of Stalingrad, Battle of Kursk, Battle of Berlin, Battle of Britain, Battle of El Alamein, Invasion of Poland, Battle of Midway, Invasion of France, Invasion of Russia, Invasion of Norway, Pearl Harbour, Operation Barbarossa.
the red army did not have a shortage of rifles. they had large industrial capacities and could produce tons of new guns. meanwhile, it was the germans who didnt have enough fuel supply, their most important means of transport then were horses.
Well the Red army did have a supply chain problem I would agree about the whole rifle thing they had plenty of them. But this film is a movie and it doesn't get a lot right.
In the early stages of Stalingrad they did. Soviet logistics haven't supplied them well enough in the EARLY phase. The middle to final phases are a different story as you may be aware
“The soldier is the Army. No army is better than its soldiers. The Soldier is also a citizen. In fact, the highest obligation and privilege of citizenship is that of bearing arms for one’s country” ― George S. Patton Jr.
@@avionrico6941 in what was Russia's standing is that no sacrifice too great if it meant that they would throw every man at the enemy tooth and nail and that their sacrifice whether consentually or forcefully in the end it was to ensure that their country survived and pushed back the enemy after realizing their country was losing ground extremely fast and was majorly under equipped but had the more staggering numbers thus forcing them to use their numbers in population to push the german occupation back before completely overrun losing their country and lively hood. they did not die for no reason their charge helped win that war whether by alot or only a little, still counted.
@@YuhMothaYuhFeelMeh There is a difference between saving your country and throwing your life away for it. Serving your country and helping rid the said country of the occupiers out of your own free will is a sacrifice one can make, however this quote is implying that it is your duty to serve it, one's sole purpose. Not only is that morally messed up in it's own right, but when used in the context of this video, it is literally saying that your only purpose in life is to give up everything and run into bullets to wear them down, with no obvious means of protecting yourself. An obvious death sentence that may or may not give the rest of the millions of "body bags" a slim chance to survive. This is no prestigious duty, it is a roll of dice that demands millions of unwilling sacrifices to be performed. As I've said, there is a massive difference between volunteering to fight and being forced to fight. Volunteering to fight is a prestigious role, being forced to commit to such commitments is no different than being fed to a meat grinder for no discernible goal, and I suspect you believe that is people's greatest role to end up in.
Just ask some Russian Stalingrad veterans about this movie and they'll tell you it's some real bullshit. Russians charging without rifles and bullets? That might have been WWI and perhaps earlier during WWII, but in Stalingrad the fighting was house-to-house, street by street. The Russians didn't just charge into machine gun fire like idiots in Stalingrad, although they did take enormous losses anyway. And the 'Not-A-Step-Back-Order' was a real thing, but it was mainly aimed at commanders who ordered retreats from their position without orders. Unlike what's shown here, Soviet soldiers could retreat to their starting positions if the attack failed, they just weren't allowed to retreat further.
NKVD barrier troops didnt shoot retreating soldiers. Soviets had detainement groups located several kilometres behind the battle to catch retreating troops and send them back to the battle, or they would be taken in penal battalions which were the most brutal/suicidal battles. Quite comparable to these scenes for a penal battalion but the movie is utter shit.
There actually were some instances of NKVD barrier troops, either at the Tractor factory or Barrikady ( can't remember exactly, I am citing Anthony Beevor here ). There were also many other instances of incredibly irresponsible executions for "deserters". One example I remember was a pilot who baled out of his plane and tore up his Communist party card because he thought he was behind German lines ( trying to evade being victim of the Commissar Order ). He then went back to his men and was accused of desertion and most likely shot.
well i don't know if its a joke or a hate comment, but they hadn't a lot of weapons during that period of time. germany attacked and ussr wasn't really prepared, so they had to be so fucking strong to win a war like this during 4 years.
Women in 1940’s “Men get things so much easier” Men: This video (This is a joke btw, for all the people that don’t understand an exaggeration, yes women fought in ww2 everyone knows that, develop a sense of humour guys)
I gotta say, this must have been terrifying for the Germans. Imagine having that huge blob of people charging at you and no matter how many you put down, they just keep coming at you. They just keep getting closer and closer until they finally give up.
Yeah it's called swamping your enemy, but even for the Soviets it was costly doing that when the Germans had an MG42 spandau machine gun, very very costly infact they did forbid such assaults when they saw how many were dying, but what proved decisive at Stalingrad was the Russians 'although they had to get men & supplies across that volga river they were nevertheless closer to their supplies unlike the Germans whose supplies were driven all the way across conquared but partisan infested Russia and although that wasn't bad enough it was far harder in the winter, The sixth army did incredibly well to say they lacked essentials because they actually did take the city centre but all they were doing is being lured into the trap Marshall Zhukov had set, those Romanian soldiers on the flanks should've been replaced by snowmen really as they wouldn't have ran off like the Romanians did when those T-34s came flying out the snowstorm to encircle Von Paulus and his troops.
The Russians got better at this with practice. They eventually learned that charging over open ground didn't work and started using the abundant cover to get up to almost melee range before charging in. If they didn't have cover, they'd dig trenches and tunnel until they got into almost melee range. Fighting in Stalingrad did devolve down to room to room. And yes, this does get terrifying when it starts like 10 meters from you, and when you mass charge from 10 meters away, it matters less that you are just armed with a grenade and a sharpened shovel.
Its clear that this scene is false in so many ways, historically the Russians did not use these tactics for one thing, in reality they used several bears with machine guns attached to their heads to demoralize the enemy.
There is absolutely no logic to mass executing your own men during battle, especially when the enemy is advancing on your position, you need every men that can fight to defend their current position. It would also be a waste of ammunition. Doing so not only would allow the enemy a clear path to advance but also any remaining defenders would not be able to fight back against such an advance(having used up their ammunition). That would be the easiest way to lose a battle. And the Soviet Military clearly did not lose the battle of Stalingrad.
There was thing called order 227 whih says that all retreating man are traitors and should be executed, it began in battle od Stalingrad, the soldiers mostly didn't retreat as they knew what awaited them.
Rhys Nichols I don't need to be a historian to study history. If you think a movie like this one is "fairly accurate", I suggest you grab a book. First of all, Zaitsev's real story is quite different from what this movie shows. Also, charges like this nonsense rarely happened, specially during the battle of Stalingrad. also, the "one rifle for ten soldiers"? Totally made up, at least when comes to the battle of Stalingrad. And that's not to mention how badly the blocking detachments were represented in this scene.
Soviet army lost 9 million men. Invading German army was bigger around 1.5 times than the Soviet one in West + plus Axis troops like Romania and Bulgaria. German Army lost around 5-6 million men on Eastern Front. High Soviet casualties are the result of the genocide on the Slavic people where up to 18 million people were murdered by Wehrmacht, SS etc
Marek Stefański wrong wrong wrong. for the entire war the wehrmacht lost 5 million men on both fronts from 1939-1945. the ussr lost AT LEAST 10-12 million men killed in combat
Ironuniverse 1230 NKVD was a legion of soldiers that solely answered to stalin and stalin alone. Like how on the German side the SS only answered to Hitler. Not the regular Army. However the NKVD became the KGB after the war and we’re responsible for state security until the collapse in 1991. It then became the FSB a branch of the MVD
From the letters of Nazi soldiers Erich Ott sent from Stalingrad. August 23, 1942: "In the morning I was shocked wonderful spectacle: the first time through the fire and the smoke I saw the Volga, calmly and majestically in its current channel. We have achieved the desired goal - the Volga. But the city is still in the hands of Russian. Why Russian rested on this side, do they think they fight on the edge? It's crazy. " November 1942: "We had hoped that before Christmas back to Germany that Stalingrad in our hands. What a great mistake! This city has turned us into a crowd of unfeeling dead! Stalingrad - it's hell! Russian people do not look like they are made of iron, they do not know fatigue, they do not know fear. Sailors on lyutom cold, go on the attack vests. Physically and spiritually one Russian soldier stronger whole of our company ... " The last letter was dated January 4, 1943: "Russian snipers and anti-tank riflemen - undoubtedly the disciples of God. They lie in wait for us night and day, and do not miss. 58 days, we stormed the one - the only home. Stormed in vain ... None of us will return to Germany, unless a miracle happens. And in miracles I no longer believe. Time passed on the Russian side. "
Cain Jenkins Yeah, I get you but it wasn't really at all like this. The tactic for many battles was a massive artillery barrage, sometimes, days at a time, softening German lines. When they were weak, the infantry took the streets.
Cain Jenkins this is not very realistic the russians had more than enough guns there would have been a large artillery barrage before hand and they would never charge a wide open street strait into a fortified position
packr72 It's a movie simply trying to give an impression at how desperate the battle was. They only had 10 mts of film time do that. So exaggeration is necessary. Plus the Soviets had no more ground to give. Artistic license of course, but it portrayed the savagery and misery and carnage of the battle IMO.
Okay here's some facts about the Battle of Stalingrad 1: the Soviets didn't gun down their own with machine guns 2: the Soviets were mostly fighting in defensive positions instead of attacking 3: yes the city was pretty much blown up to hell and the Soviets were desperate. 4: the Soviets were so desperate that they were sending tanks outside of the local factories to fight immediately. 5: an actual strategy of the Soviets was to hug up as close as possible to the Germans so said Germans couldn't use artillery or aircraft 6: and no the Soviets did not give two guys one rifle and told them to pick it up when the other guy got killed. 7: bring the period of the battle which the scene was showed which was in the city the Soviets in German would fight in the buildings and ruins in vicious close combat. 8: the Soviet sniper that was the main character in this movie was actually part of a special forces unit called in from Siberia. 9: the battle was won by encircling the Germans so the infantry fighters and say they didn't actually push him back they just had to hold out. 10: the average lifespan of a Soviet soldier was 24 hours and their commanders was roughly 3 days during the battle.
1. it happened elsewhere though in the eastern front, or are you seriously suggesting it is a hollywood invention? people dont just make this up because they were bored. 2. no, at one point the germans controlled most of the city so they had to attack to regain districts.
@@ImperialDiecast well if you're talking about Soviet soldiers being gunned down by their own or sharing a rifle no it didn't there's been no reports of that. Also the fact that the Germans took most of the city is a clear indication that the Soviets were on the defense true the Soviets did put an offensive every now and then but this was very rarely. The biggest offensive they had was trying to retake the hill near the city. But remember they didn't win by pushing the Germans out of the city they won by encircling the city.
@@AverageWagie2024 Winter helps when you're on the defense and hinders when you're on the offense, which the Russians were continually from August 1943 and still beat the Germans completely.
In 1942 a German officer once wrote to his wife "We don't count our advance of the city of Stalingrad in miles or even kilometres but by the amount of corpses"
Oh how the irony of this guy, i look at his profile, and the first thing I see is Red Orchestra tips and tricks, so we know this guy watches YT to learn how to get good when he's trash, and you clearly didn't get the gist of my comment dumb ass lol.
@Joshua Payne I haven't said they never did it. But most of such charges were only used in the first couple of months to delay the enemy as long as possible. After that it was an exception. I highly doubt that they were used in Stalingrad battle, but if you have sources that claim they did happen there, can you link them?
@Joshua Payne There’s a difference between tactical charges and simply throwing men at the enemy without any forms of tactics. The horde stuff was a myth in actuality.
The one thing that can be taken from this movie is the astronomical loss of lives. The average life expectancy of a Red Army soldier in Stalingrad was less than a day. What wasn’t reality is the concept of how order 227 was implemented. You held the line until you won or died. Not mount suicidal assaults on German position. Fighting was amongst the ruins where soldiers would fight more hand to hand. Snipers were active and inflicted a lot of deaths. The only escape would be crossing the Volga were a deserter would be if caught sent to special military tribunal. A sentence could be death or a lot of times put in penal battalions sent on most dangerous missions. NKVD blocking units is existed just not in this situation.
@@acido4309 Simply put, it didn´t look like this for the most part. Soviet assaults in Stalingrad were usually conducted by specialized assault teams. The Soviets would usually use the ruins for cover, to advance as close to the enemy position as possible, so the Germans couldn´t use their air and artillery support. From there, they would wait for an opening, or create one by blasting through walls of houses with tanks, AT guns, or anti-tank rifles, to create an unexpected angle of attack. Failing that, they would attack frontally, using large numbers of grenades(field manuals often advised to carry 10-12 grenades) and close range automatic firepower, mainly PPSh SMGs, with pistols and entrenching tools as backup weapons. After the assault teams captured a position, regular troops moved in to secure and fortify it against the inevitable counter-attack. Then, the Germans would do something similar to retake the position, so the Soviets had to mount a new attack. Some houses were fought over room by room for days, with Germans holding the lower floors, and the Soviets occupying the attic, or vice versa. It wasn´t uncommon that some positions changed hands ten or even more times That´s how it went most of the time. There were probably times when the Soviets had to improvise, but they definitely didn´t give rifles only to every other soldier.
indeed, NKVD didnt use machine guns to gun retreating soldiers, mostly using pistols plus those who executed soldiers just because they retreat were sent to penal battallions.
The one problem is that order 227 wasn't even used in Stalingrad. It was almost never used at all. This movie is just way to unrealistic to even be called a war movie. Watch Stalingrad 1993
You guys know this movie is actually based on a BOOK of the same name written decades ago? It's a collection of accounts from archives and survivors in chronological order. Just saying, when I watched this scene I was shocked because NOWHERE IN THE BOOK DID IT MENTION A SHORTAGE OF RIFLES. There were Stukas, there were exploding boats... I dont remember the desertion part but there was no mention of rifle shortages! It seriously. So yeah... that really gets my oats rolling. Stalin began industrialization years ago during the Five Year Plans. If they had tanks, why would they not have rifles? Hollywood Twisting truths to exaggerate an already wellknown stereotype that the Soviets relied on no other strategy besides human waves. I swear that if the author of the original book watched this movie, he would be furious.
Yeah funny thing about this scene... it's entirely made up Yes, many Soviets were involved in human wave attacks in the battle some with no equipment but they were never sent in half equipped with inferior arms to assault fortified positions. Even Soviet commanders before Zhukov knew that would be pointless and a waste of lives. Also the barrier troops (those that would shoot dead those that fled) were never present in the Stalingrad battle because Zhukov ordered that they be removed and those who retreated would be placed in penal battalions (in charge of digging entrenchments or fighting to regain their honor and avoid being tried). This is backed up by statements from actual veterans from the battle so don't just say "How would you know if you weren't there?"
The whole movie is hilariously inaccurate but the thing that bothers me the most is that some Soviets have rifles while the rest are only carrying cartridges. This shortage only occurred in 1941 due to the Red Army's shortage of trucks and trains that couldn't transport the millions of tons of guns and ammunition from their vast factories but this is in 1942 the US with their lend-lease gave them 500k trucks and their factories also produced trucks and trains to fix the shortage. The only thing this movie got right was that the Germans and the Soviets are fighting in a city called Stalingrad.
![SIX MINUTES OF WAR (One-Take WW2 Short Film) German side [4K]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gfHXYKX85jE/mqdefault.jpg)
Not a cellphone in sight, just people living the moment.
Cellphones weren’t Invented back then! Idiot...
R/woooooosh
Living the moment?
@@dhruvthejarani9405 r/ihavereddit
Except for the camera men recording the movie
“We have more bodies than the enemy has bullets. Victory is a guarantee” -Stalin 1942
You can just feel his cruel nature through that quote
Tấn Nguyễn he did send human waves multiple times especially at the end of the war
@@Dark_S_9. End of the war?! Are you mental. At the end of the war, the German army was consistently losing more men dead than the Soviets. The Soviets by that point were likely the most skilled army in the world on the tactical and operational levels, far outclassing the Western Allies.
Stalin killed more people then Hitler
@@borris3768 That's also inaccurate, the book which originally gave that obscene figure (60 million) has since had most of it's authours turn it's back on it. Realistically speaking, Stalin killed somewhere in the region of 10-20 million people. Hitler on the other hand, (including all the Soviet civillians and soldiers that he either killed or starved to death during WW2) has likely got somewhere in the region of 30-40 million AT LEAST.
This does not at all account for the fact that Stalin was in power for more than twice as long and ended up winning his war which meant he had free rein in Eastern Europe. Not nearly as many deaths occured under him as would have under Hitler (Hunger Plan has estimates of 50-100 million Soviet civillians being starved to death). So no, that statement is in fact wrong.
0:58 you can see the cameraman lol
LMAO
Agustin Guerra Nice catch! I never even saw him the first time
the commissars don't have the balls to execute him
He is just a war photographer. Nothing wrong with that.
he was having flashbacks, they figured he added to the immersion
1:27
"Hans get to cover!"
"Why bother? They dont even have guns"
Ur underated
*just incase*
They have their fists lmao
i dont need cover.
@@hans7032 Guten tag Hans!
Why are the Germans speaking German and the Russians speaking English
Isprikitik burkabush Because Americans don't like reading subtitles.
aSecondCaesar
And US is a large market, so many films/series are made to appeal to the Americans.
Pikkabuu True, though that dynamic may eventually change with China emerging as a huge market for American films.
+Pikkabuu and because the French director wanted English speaking actors
+Isprikitik burkabush MURICA cannot read ?
UA-cam comment section: where everyone is a 5 star general, historian, and confuses movies with documentaries
+HAcoreRD lmao, so true xD
+HAcoreRD lmao, so true xD
+HAcoreRD ....jejejejejejeje....But you know.....opinions are like assholes....everybody got one.....and they all stink.....jejejeje
+Deckie Deckie you are funny and I suspect you are Filipino which is wonderful.
Thank you
Mad respect to the camera man, still managed to film everything even under heavy artillery explosions.
It was indeed a rare footage to get at those times.
and upload it on youtube
pov:the camera man is on the german side
Bro just shut up
@@victuz it’s a movie ☠️
Girls in dodgeball: Hides in the back
Boys in dodgeball:
holy true
Me and the boys defending Stalingrad, rare footage:
Huraaaaaah
0:15 When you play Enlisted
Hoooorahhh JAA JAA JAA
Do boys carry guns and shoot each other in dodgeball? That’ll be interesting.
The first ten minutes of this film are totally unforgettable. From where the soldiers are unloaded from the trains and herded across the river into the meat grinder.
Never mind that it didn't happen. The Soviets had millions of Mosin-Nagants in storage and after dropping the plan to convert to SVT-40s, production of the Mosin-Nagant was increased (it was much cheaper and faster to produce in large quantities then the SVT-40). They certainly didn't lack rifles to give to their soldiers.
@@kovesp1 that may be, but in Stalingrad they did. The city wasn't well supplied during the EARLIER stages. They were so poorly supplied, they even had to use ww1 artillery during the earlier phases of the battle. They supplies and reinforcements poured in later on
@@joshuaandre8911 As far as I can recall, no such shortages are mentioned by any of the reputable military historians writing on the topic: Glantz, Erickson, Overy, Beevor, ... Same goes for the memoirs of Chuikov and Zhukov, but I suspect you'll just discount that.
of course, all this is blatant lies, the film is trying to defile at least like the Red Army
@@Towarish_Chekist ok tankie
1:28 german soldier bends over the wreckage: "just chilling, relaxing and shooting at some massive russian brigade rushing against me”.
"A real turkey shoot."
he was like :
dont mind me,just shooting some commies in sight
You can also see his MP-40 jammed. The bolt goes forward, but it did not fire.
its supposed to make you the hardest target to hit
You do know that Belorussians p, Ukrainians and many others died for Supid Soviet Union too?
Call of duty 2003 dev: “damn this movie is so cool what if something like this was in a video game?”
Too bad it isn’t
cooldloop it is...2003 first call of duty.
Git Sum Gaming first mission of the first Call of Duty on PC
@@FuNWithAChemicaLBomb yuo...damn i loved that game....wish I could rewind the clock and go back to the good ol days
It was COD world at war! Now they remake same shity game only better graphics!
The extra at 1:02 really looks like he enjoyed himself!
Can't blame him blasting away with that beast.
how’d he even see the enemy?
I mean i would too XD
He's the german soldier from tf2
Tf2 soldier
0:50 give this man running on the right an oscar for the facial expressions man
>:0
Hes doing the pogchamp face lmaoo
Look at 01:02
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@@UnknownPersononGoogle man really said "😠"
The Germans are Walmart and the Russians are shoppers on Black Friday......
Ryan Sohn
Great
XDD the bullets are the products XDD
I laughed hard, great comment!
Ryan Sohn That a way to say that.
Hahahaha
Hearts of Iron 4 Force Attacking with no Equipment in a Nutshell
Against entrenched forces,no less
*mass assault doctrine intensifies*
@Hammerschlägen M reminder that this is historically, complete bs.
@@virgiljianu7166 no air superiority either
@Hammerschlägen M except there's not, the only truth is that the later executed a few deserters, similar how they used to do in ww1 all over the place. but shooting soldiers that were running back is bs.
0:58 another proof that cameraman is the most overpowered character
Literally! He can even survive nuclear blast
100th like
Didn't you people already know? The camera man is always invulnerable.
In Russia you hit the bullet......
+Austin Thacker in soviet russia you destroy mine
In USA you have right to bear arms. In Motherland Russia you have right to whole bear!
Frank Müller was für ne Demokratie ?
Hier in D ?!
Träum weiter...
LOL
hahaha lmao!! that explains lot that scean at 1:32..!!😂😅👏
0:17 when you open a pack of gum at school
It's OUR pack of gum !!
Lol
So?
Some Dude my god that’s actually hilarious
And bribed some and defending yourself
Those are some british sounding russians
I know why do they use English sounding actors for a soviet charge
I think they did summer class ;)
Lend lease
British Film.
Because if it it was voiced by Russians they would be spamming the cyka blyat war cry and and dodging bullets because of Russian bias
I've only now noticed how unauthentic the sound of that MG 42 is.
Ive noticed this too comrade!
The real MG42 make Brttt with chains sound but 10x faster
(sry for my BAD english)
Just one problem,The mg 42 was still in the prototype stage when this was happening. It should have been the mg 34. Since the mg 42 is still used in some armies,im shure it was easier to get for the movie. I think they did a nice job replicating this battle. It was a good movie!
Ma man a big fan of firearms just like me
@@adriani.m4163 a firearm is only a tool! It ďoes not make you a man!
@@kevinmahaney3650 Fine, Mr. Sergeant !
Me and the boys storming Area 51
I can't wait, bring lots of sun tan lotion, and a wide brim hat. Finally get to the bottom of this.
let's just hope we manage to successfully invade Area 51
What if the guards open fire?
@@sr.6001 don't stop comrades we do not fall back.
Americans are never short of guns only reason the red's had to give every other a handful of bullets is because they were communists.
The Russians had a weapon shortage in WW1, but in WW2 they had plenty of weapons. Russians fielded more sub-machine guns than any other country in the war combined.
From John Erickson's book - The Road To Stalingrad -
January to December 1942:
Manpower
Germany 250,000 Soviet 187,000
Machine Carbines
German 524,473 Soviet 952,332
Light Machine Guns
German 71,923 Soviet 100,183
*****
Not 5 times more you idiot... In fact during 1941 invasion the German outnumbered teh Russians 3 million to 2.8 million.
This movie takes place during the battle of Stalingrad.. Initially, the number of German soldiers were 270,000 vs Soviet soldiers 187,000.. And by the time of the Soviet counter attack, the number of German soldiers rose to 1,040,000 whilst the Soviet number rose to 1,143,000... YES hardly the 5:1 ratio... you fucking moron. Stay away from history kid. Leave it to the adults.
*****
I know what you said, And I'm telling you that you're WRONG.
@@thomass1891 man got no chill
@@callysweatgamer9732 my guy this was from 7 years ago
Red Orchestra 2 in a nutshell.
sees ppsh41 as rifleman, fights over it to take it
no arty :(
Recovered from a stream of a Commisar's House control match with only 1 minute remaining
"OK guys go go go!"
"But there's a machine gun!"
"Fucking rush B noobs wtf!!!???"
*Everyone rushes B*
*TL calls arty on B*
Not enough T-34's camping at the back of D or C.
1:02 German machine gunner:
Get some get some!
He really wants those soviet soldiers dead...
"Another unit was lost in the defence of the Rodina"
LMAO Company of Heroes 2 references here we goooo
Lol
“ another squad had been killed, Death to the motherland”
I hear that all too often lol
All these people arguing insignificant shit and no one noticed the real problem with this scene.
Almost none of those mosins have bayonets fixed on them! What is this bullshit?
***** Have you ever owned a mosin or seen picture of WW2 Russians dumbshit? A mosin is zeroed in the factory with the bayonet fixed, therefore the bayonets were meant to be fixed at all times.
***** True as you state, however, a good many of the rifles had their bayonets cut off in the field so the soldiers had something to slice the cheese loaves with. They were also sold on the black market to gay bath house owners to be used as painful spanking implements.
robert glenn But Russia dislikes homosex. They would never allow such a thing.
calm down mister!
You know what another significant problem is? I don't think panzers with 50 mm cannon create little magical puffs of smoke. Also, the gun fires 3 times every second, not humanly possible to load a gun, that big, that fast.
0:55 the cannon fire just looks like coffee creamer being lit.
LMAO HAHAHAH
I know!!!! lol
“Sergeant! There’s too many! We’re out of shells!”
“Give them the Coffee Mate then!”
I know..it looks like a Roman Candle going off
1:02 The way he POUTS his Mouth while FIRING the machine gun is just INTENSE!!!
Imagine being in Russia or Germany in the 1990s and seeing old men sitting on the park bench feeding the pigeons reconciling their past and remembering fallen comrades while you mistakenly believe they did nothing with their lives.
Aww...that’s sad though. 😢
I grew up in Moscow in the 1980's. Honestly, I don't remember meeting many veterans who'd served in WW2. Those guys - even if they'd survived the war - didn't live too much past 60-70.
@@ThisHandleWasTheOnly1Available too much drinking
John :They did not get past the age of 60 and 70 because of war issues like radiation, wounds , and lung issues
Many of the real Soviets which fought the war where already dead in the 60s or even faster. Most of the German lived also up till the 80s and 90s. These elder ones you see today are Folks from the Hitler Jugend. On the Post-soviet side however i have a strong suggestion that the elders of today just pinned some medals and are pretending today that they fougth the real deal when in fact they did nothing or where deployed 100kms behind the front.
just imagine what that was like in the 1940's. "commander, I dont have a rifle!'' "dont worry, keep Running and you will find one."
The logic behind it was that, you would have the unarmed charge just behind those with the rifles. So that once he got shot you could pick up the rifle and keep fighting. A good example of this is CoD: Finest Hour. They replicated the situation for every 2nd person to be in the weapons line would get an ammo clip instead of rifle. If one were to die holding a rifle, you were to pick up his rifle and shoot.
oh ya, i know. the part that make me laugh is that the officers stood there and basicly toold there men to die
"CoD fanboy alert"
Yeah, the Red Army was in a very poor state in 1941-1942 before they could get the factories spamming small arms and tanks later on...
Brock lacey This whole idea is quite inaccurate as it wasn't happening by this point in Stalingrad. The reinforcements coming from the East bank of the Volga were well kitted out with submachine guns and grenades, they were equipped for street fighting.
0:17 boys when the lunch bell rings
Straight up
My favorite school instrument is the lunch bell
😂😂😂
*URA*
Just so you know - The soviets didnt actually do suicidal frontal charges...they did the opposite. (The japanese were famous for kamikaze frontal charges tho)
Soviets used bombed out buildings or whatever confined areas that could be defended to stay close to the germans in order to negate their artillery, airforce and tanks.
Without area of effect weaponry and technological superiority the fights would devolve into a slow and grinding close combat hell in a labyrinth of buildings.
Yep those frontal charges was USA propoganda about soviet
Frontal charges were a thing during all the early war, not only the Soviets did them but the Germans and French as well, same with Italians. Because the concept of combined tactics still was evolving
@@idlearctic592 I don't think all of those people were willingly sacrificed. But hey salute to all who died in a conflict of old men bickering and clinging to actions of the past.
They sacrificed 25 million...not 5
No.
During the first part of the war, suicidal charges were very common. The Russians employed the same tactics as during the First World War.
I read the testimony of a German soldier who was fighting on the Eastern Front. He said "The russians were charging in a compact mass of infantry, facing our machine guns. Before rushing forward and while they were running, they were shouting 'hooray!!!' I wonder why they were shouting like that. We hardly had to aim. They were falling by the hundreds"
1:03 love the guy on the right just chilling sitting on the rubble picking shots at people hahahaha what a badass
Camper
U.S army personnel defending the outskirts of Area 51 from a crowd of advancing internet users. (2019, Colourized)
The Massacre of Area-51
Jesus Leyva Sadly ;(
Lol
@66760 • 67 million years ago r/wooosh
CreeptheCreepers what a pipe dream. Most outside 51 would be too stoned, too busy complaining about the patriarchy or confused about what bathroom to use. 2 well placed shots and they would all run back to their parents basement.
0:58 stop and look to the right "Camera man" ;)
This is obviously one of the soviet war correspondents, taking some pictures of the operation.
Ahh, you completely ruined my immersion! Kudos, you have eagle eyes.
Sneak 1943
@@Cyatrance_Empirebro, why did you comment this 10 year old comment and with 6 years old replies?
Delete your reply or else!
props to the german soldier standing two feet to the right of a tank barrel as it fires, given how much air concussion there is from even a large rifle muzzle flash. employee of the week, right there
They used black powder to simulate the tanks firing. Would have been a lot of smoke and coughing on set
definitely a shoe-in for middle management
Hard as krupp steel
German morale is and was h8ghest that is crucial but after stalingrasld low German morale so they lost the war
0:17 Boys when they see students from a different school
Tell me about it 💀😂😂 fr tho
Peace was never an option
But the other school is uncool but good.
In Soviet Russia, you are a statistic.
"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin
wigster600 in Soviet Minecraft blocks place you
wigster600 we have reserves
I read that as "autistic"
wigster600 and we always have reserves
Girls locker room:*complaining about P.E class*
Boys locker room:
Jelous much ?? 😂😂
Let me just bring my Mosin
boys locker room: Battle of Stalingrad, Battle of Kursk, Battle of Berlin, Battle of Britain, Battle of El Alamein, Invasion of Poland, Battle of Midway, Invasion of France, Invasion of Russia, Invasion of Norway, Pearl Harbour, Operation Barbarossa.
Dio
It was you dio!
the red army did not have a shortage of rifles. they had large industrial capacities and could produce tons of new guns. meanwhile, it was the germans who didnt have enough fuel supply, their most important means of transport then were horses.
They did have a shortage of weapons
Still cool
Well the Red army did have a supply chain problem I would agree about the whole rifle thing they had plenty of them. But this film is a movie and it doesn't get a lot right.
In the early stages of Stalingrad they did. Soviet logistics haven't supplied them well enough in the EARLY phase. The middle to final phases are a different story as you may be aware
It was always horses, not only at the finals stages of the war.
Horses were 80% of the mobility of the German army.
“The soldier is the Army. No army is better than its soldiers. The
Soldier is also a citizen. In fact, the highest obligation and privilege
of citizenship is that of bearing arms for one’s country”
―
George S. Patton Jr.
People will defend their Homeland like rabid animals if you threaten it
"We fought the wrong enemy"
- Also George S. Patton
So throwing your life away in a charge that you are clearly going to die in for no reason is your duty?
@@avionrico6941 in what was Russia's standing is that no sacrifice too great if it meant that they would throw every man at the enemy tooth and nail and that their sacrifice whether consentually or forcefully in the end it was to ensure that their country survived and pushed back the enemy after realizing their country was losing ground extremely fast and was majorly under equipped but had the more staggering numbers thus forcing them to use their numbers in population to push the german occupation back before completely overrun losing their country and lively hood. they did not die for no reason their charge helped win that war whether by alot or only a little, still counted.
@@YuhMothaYuhFeelMeh There is a difference between saving your country and throwing your life away for it. Serving your country and helping rid the said country of the occupiers out of your own free will is a sacrifice one can make, however this quote is implying that it is your duty to serve it, one's sole purpose. Not only is that morally messed up in it's own right, but when used in the context of this video, it is literally saying that your only purpose in life is to give up everything and run into bullets to wear them down, with no obvious means of protecting yourself. An obvious death sentence that may or may not give the rest of the millions of "body bags" a slim chance to survive.
This is no prestigious duty, it is a roll of dice that demands millions of unwilling sacrifices to be performed. As I've said, there is a massive difference between volunteering to fight and being forced to fight. Volunteering to fight is a prestigious role, being forced to commit to such commitments is no different than being fed to a meat grinder for no discernible goal, and I suspect you believe that is people's greatest role to end up in.
Just ask some Russian Stalingrad veterans about this movie and they'll tell you it's some real bullshit. Russians charging without rifles and bullets? That might have been WWI and perhaps earlier during WWII, but in Stalingrad the fighting was house-to-house, street by street. The Russians didn't just charge into machine gun fire like idiots in Stalingrad, although they did take enormous losses anyway. And the 'Not-A-Step-Back-Order' was a real thing, but it was mainly aimed at commanders who ordered retreats from their position without orders. Unlike what's shown here, Soviet soldiers could retreat to their starting positions if the attack failed, they just weren't allowed to retreat further.
Yeah, inexperience mofos like Zhukov, Russokovsky, Koniev and Chuikov
NKVD barrier troops didnt shoot retreating soldiers. Soviets had detainement groups located several kilometres behind the battle to catch retreating troops and send them back to the battle, or they would be taken in penal battalions which were the most brutal/suicidal battles. Quite comparable to these scenes for a penal battalion but the movie is utter shit.
actually. the only ones that were charging without guns at that time were the penal battalions. criminals, traitors, cowards
Alex Kyriacou It's a movie...
There actually were some instances of NKVD barrier troops, either at the Tractor factory or Barrikady ( can't remember exactly, I am citing Anthony Beevor here ). There were also many other instances of incredibly irresponsible executions for "deserters". One example I remember was a pilot who baled out of his plane and tore up his Communist party card because he thought he was behind German lines ( trying to evade being victim of the Commissar Order ). He then went back to his men and was accused of desertion and most likely shot.
How do you name at 1 million of men and 2 rifles?
Soviet offensive :v
Aid from the United States
Not In the Eastern Front
True
well i don't know if its a joke or a hate comment, but they hadn't a lot of weapons during that period of time.
germany attacked and ussr wasn't really prepared, so they had to be so fucking strong to win a war like this during 4 years.
Q: Why do French tanks have rearview mirrors?
A: So they can see the frontlines :D
"Flanking around the enemy was invented in 1943"
Soldiers in 1942:
I was wondering the very same thing.
who needs bullets and weapons when you have a magic flag
Right?
morale boost 75%
50% speed boost
IS NO GOOD COMRADES
FALL BACK
kkkkkkk
Is no good Comrades! Attack in the OPPOSITE direction!
Yman83464 lmao! That was good.
>springfield rifle
Patrick Bateman Hey Paul!
It's safe to say the Russians invented YOLO
Damn movie clips. They always end it right when it starts to get good.
I know this movie isn’t meant to be realistic at all but these scenes are just heartbreaking.
This just shows that Stalin wasnt human at since, he was basically a fat demon hiding inside a human skin
@@AnthroGearhead hello bot, nice try, but churchil eat more
@@AnthroGearhead I'm not sure Stalin was responsible for these tactics.
... or it might be completely realistic? Bakhmut holds.
@@sam4secretary based
German's :remember no Russian
Commisar:remember no Russian
Yes
Wow an actually funny joke on a WW2 video
🤣🤣🤣
That joke makes no sense.
@@17MrLeon because you dont know the context
Women in 1940’s
“Men get things so much easier”
Men: This video
(This is a joke btw, for all the people that don’t understand an exaggeration, yes women fought in ww2 everyone knows that, develop a sense of humour guys)
Male privilege on display.
i don't think women in 1940's ever think like that
Maybe in the United States. At least in the Soviet Union the wife of a war veteran couldn't throw him out of his own house for coming home late.
H
I saw a picture about women fighting in ww2
0:28 When you read the first question on the exam
I just played this level in Call of Duty.
The Battle of Area 51, colorized
Is it colorized though? Is it really?
I have no idea
Allot of "experts" in the comment section as always.
+Leopard95 I know right xD
Happens to often I swear lol
Many an Armchair General out there lol!
Anyone with common sense would be more of an expert than the clowns who made this shit movie.
@Thi Nguyen TACTICAL NUKE INCOMING
0:16 this is a perfect representation of boys when home bell rings
I gotta say, this must have been terrifying for the Germans. Imagine having that huge blob of people charging at you and no matter how many you put down, they just keep coming at you. They just keep getting closer and closer until they finally give up.
Yeah it's called swamping your enemy, but even for the Soviets it was costly doing that when the Germans had an MG42 spandau machine gun, very very costly infact they did forbid such assaults when they saw how many were dying, but what proved decisive at Stalingrad was the Russians 'although they had to get men & supplies across that volga river they were nevertheless closer to their supplies unlike the Germans whose supplies were driven all the way across conquared but partisan infested Russia and although that wasn't bad enough it was far harder in the winter, The sixth army did incredibly well to say they lacked essentials because they actually did take the city centre but all they were doing is being lured into the trap Marshall Zhukov had set, those Romanian soldiers on the flanks should've been replaced by snowmen really as they wouldn't have ran off like the Romanians did when those T-34s came flying out the snowstorm to encircle Von Paulus and his troops.
It's called a hollywood movie
Never happened lmao
@@tacoblude8208 it happened in the 1st world war in trench warfare
The Russians got better at this with practice. They eventually learned that charging over open ground didn't work and started using the abundant cover to get up to almost melee range before charging in. If they didn't have cover, they'd dig trenches and tunnel until they got into almost melee range. Fighting in Stalingrad did devolve down to room to room. And yes, this does get terrifying when it starts like 10 meters from you, and when you mass charge from 10 meters away, it matters less that you are just armed with a grenade and a sharpened shovel.
1:24 when someone takes the last cookie at lunch
Lmao everyone in this comment section speaks like they were on the German front line and saw everything that happened
+Griff Oliver i was there and got killed.
+Griff Oliver LOL so true
magorkel I hate it when that happens.
I was in Stalingrad and got fucked by a camping SOB with an MG42.
I appreciate how at 1:28 there's a guy just chilling there, not even behind cover shooting down soviets like it's an average Tuesday afternoon
Many russian army is send to the war not fully trained back in those days.. so germans think is easy to fight russia in ww2
Its clear that this scene is false in so many ways, historically the Russians did not use these tactics for one thing, in reality they used several bears with machine guns attached to their heads to demoralize the enemy.
Pasha Staravoitau the hell do you think?
Is your head all right?
0:18 when dodgeball starts
The kyles rushing the defense of Area 51
Teacher: ok kids were getting a student from Russia
Girls: I hope he’s cute
Me and the boys: 0:10
There is absolutely no logic to mass executing your own men during battle, especially when the enemy is advancing on your position, you need every men that can fight to defend their current position. It would also be a waste of ammunition. Doing so not only would allow the enemy a clear path to advance but also any remaining defenders would not be able to fight back against such an advance(having used up their ammunition). That would be the easiest way to lose a battle. And the Soviet Military clearly did not lose the battle of Stalingrad.
I don't see where you guys see the (actual footage colorized) stuff, I must be blind
There was thing called order 227 whih says that all retreating man are traitors and should be executed, it began in battle od Stalingrad, the soldiers mostly didn't retreat as they knew what awaited them.
@@kanapka3659 order 227 is for the officers, not the soldiers.
@TAWOG most of them kill in captivity, in labour, dude. First months of war 3 mil captured soviet, most of them just because mistake of Stalin.
Watch good documentary
This scene is ridiculous.
And so is the rest of the movie, from a historical point of view.
Swatbot2611. You don't sound like an historian and these battles are fairly accurate
Rhys Nichols I don't need to be a historian to study history. If you think a movie like this one is "fairly accurate", I suggest you grab a book.
First of all, Zaitsev's real story is quite different from what this movie shows.
Also, charges like this nonsense rarely happened, specially during the battle of Stalingrad. also, the "one rifle for ten soldiers"? Totally made up, at least when comes to the battle of Stalingrad. And that's not to mention how badly the blocking detachments were represented in this scene.
RUSH B NO STOP CYKA BLYAT
lol
Ah, Fallen Fighters... such a shit map :)
HA
noob team
It is not funny . My grandpa die in this battle.
Real Normandy : You have 20% chance of survival
This Normandy : 100% death unless you're the main character
Stalingrad, not Normandy. Opposite sides of Europe. Normandy was the Americans, British, and Canadians.
Russia: we can't possibly lose more 10 million men fighting against the 3 million men invading us.
Stalin: "Hold my vodka"
Soviet army lost 9 million men. Invading German army was bigger around 1.5 times than the Soviet one in West + plus Axis troops like Romania and Bulgaria. German Army lost around 5-6 million men on Eastern Front.
High Soviet casualties are the result of the genocide on the Slavic people where up to 18 million people were murdered by Wehrmacht, SS etc
@@Szpareq, up to 27 millions pls. Entire regions have been "depopulated" so that nobody knows for sure how many people once lived there.
Marek Stefański wrong wrong wrong. for the entire war the wehrmacht lost 5 million men on both fronts from 1939-1945. the ussr lost AT LEAST 10-12 million men killed in combat
@@nddavi58 8'5-9 million soldiers and officers
@@nddavi58 Germans killed 3-3.5 million Soviet POWs
As Stalin once said. “the death of one man is a tragedy, the death of a million is just a statistic”
Ironuniverse 1230 Death to tyrants
Ironuniverse 1230 back then it was the NKVD. KGB didn’t exist then
Ironuniverse 1230 NKVD was a legion of soldiers that solely answered to stalin and stalin alone. Like how on the German side the SS only answered to Hitler. Not the regular Army. However the NKVD became the KGB after the war and we’re responsible for state security until the collapse in 1991. It then became the FSB a branch of the MVD
@Ironuniverse 1230 He didn't even say that lol.
As Lenin once said "The problem with fake quotes in the internet is that people actually believe them"
1:02
He reminds me of The soldier from TF2
R. I. P soldier's voice actor.
Rest In Peace, Rick May (Soldier’s voice actor)... 😞
He was good son, real good, maybe even the best... 🙏💪😪
Team fortress 2 is it?
@@velocityofthesun1399 yes
"i may not have the perfect aim on shooting the enemy, but when it comes to friendly fire i never missed a shot"
-Tank Fish
0:14 when the teacher says that's it for today
From the letters of Nazi soldiers Erich Ott sent from Stalingrad.
August 23, 1942:
"In the morning I was shocked wonderful spectacle: the first time through the fire and the smoke I saw the Volga, calmly and majestically in its current channel. We have achieved the desired goal - the Volga. But the city is still in the hands of Russian. Why Russian rested on this side, do they think they fight on the edge? It's crazy. "
November 1942:
"We had hoped that before Christmas back to Germany that Stalingrad in our hands. What a great mistake! This city has turned us into a crowd of unfeeling dead! Stalingrad - it's hell! Russian people do not look like they are made of iron, they do not know fatigue, they do not know fear. Sailors on lyutom cold, go on the attack vests. Physically and spiritually one Russian soldier stronger whole of our company ... "
The last letter was dated January 4, 1943:
"Russian snipers and anti-tank riflemen - undoubtedly the disciples of God. They lie in wait for us night and day, and do not miss. 58 days, we stormed the one - the only home. Stormed in vain ... None of us will return to Germany, unless a miracle happens. And in miracles I no longer believe. Time passed on the Russian side. "
Can you please link more of this? I would like to see if this is from a book or collection online.
Please give us a source of these letters!
***** Aww. You sound royally butthurt, nazitard. :(
How does it go through censor?
You don't have the source I don't believe you until you show me one.
***** No skill and no tactic maybe, but bravery and courage is what made them come on top.
I'm still find it insane that the Russians won the eastern front with these crazy ass tactics (even if this scene its dramatized )
Cain Jenkins Yeah, I get you but it wasn't really at all like this. The tactic for many battles was a massive artillery barrage, sometimes, days at a time, softening German lines. When they were weak, the infantry took the streets.
Cain Jenkins this is not very realistic the russians had more than enough guns there would have been a large artillery barrage before hand and they would never charge a wide open street strait into a fortified position
Cain Jenkins Because its bullshit.
packr72 It's a movie simply trying to give an impression at how desperate the battle was. They only had 10 mts of film time do that. So exaggeration is necessary. Plus the Soviets had no more ground to give. Artistic license of course, but it portrayed the savagery and misery and carnage of the battle IMO.
They acctualy did this
Okay here's some facts about the Battle of Stalingrad
1: the Soviets didn't gun down their own with machine guns
2: the Soviets were mostly fighting in defensive positions instead of attacking
3: yes the city was pretty much blown up to hell and the Soviets were desperate.
4: the Soviets were so desperate that they were sending tanks outside of the local factories to fight immediately.
5: an actual strategy of the Soviets was to hug up as close as possible to the Germans so said Germans couldn't use artillery or aircraft
6: and no the Soviets did not give two guys one rifle and told them to pick it up when the other guy got killed.
7: bring the period of the battle which the scene was showed which was in the city the Soviets in German would fight in the buildings and ruins in vicious close combat.
8: the Soviet sniper that was the main character in this movie was actually part of a special forces unit called in from Siberia.
9: the battle was won by encircling the Germans so the infantry fighters and say they didn't actually push him back they just had to hold out.
10: the average lifespan of a Soviet soldier was 24 hours and their commanders was roughly 3 days during the battle.
Yes who shots his soldiers at wars
1. it happened elsewhere though in the eastern front, or are you seriously suggesting it is a hollywood invention? people dont just make this up because they were bored.
2. no, at one point the germans controlled most of the city so they had to attack to regain districts.
@@ImperialDiecast well if you're talking about Soviet soldiers being gunned down by their own or sharing a rifle no it didn't there's been no reports of that. Also the fact that the Germans took most of the city is a clear indication that the Soviets were on the defense true the Soviets did put an offensive every now and then but this was very rarely. The biggest offensive they had was trying to retake the hill near the city. But remember they didn't win by pushing the Germans out of the city they won by encircling the city.
@@ImperialDiecast Yes, the filmmakers pretty much made it up. The only men getting shot were officers.
Proud owner of a 1942 issue Mosin Nagant. The mere thought of what it must've been through is awe inspiring.
Worth a pretty penny nowadays
@@theadventuresofjavier8698 Yeah, but history has a higher value than currency.
@@misterdude6694 wrong you are a slave to money and whichever country you live in a war memento is worth something to you why?
Commissar Zap Brannigan, what are your orders?
“I’ll throw waves and waves of men at them!”
"Don't worry men, what we lack in weapons we compensate with huge red flags! What could go wrong?"
its sad that people actually think that the russians won only bcs of winter
It wasn't winter the whole war. The Russians were winning in spring and summer as well
@@AverageWagie2024 Winter helps when you're on the defense and hinders when you're on the offense, which the Russians were continually from August 1943 and still beat the Germans completely.
Lmao this guys face is legit the best 1:02 lmao
The Battle of Stalingrad was a terrible violent battle in world war 2.
In 1942 a German officer once wrote to his wife "We don't count our advance of the city of Stalingrad in miles or even kilometres but by the amount of corpses"
Sherlock?
@@marsdenmullac9664 jesus
Red Orchestra 2 in a nutshell, when Russian players believe in these charging tactics, and it's nothing but a hunting season for the German team lol.
LOOOL
Oh how the irony of this guy, i look at his profile, and the first thing I see is Red Orchestra tips and tricks, so we know this guy watches YT to learn how to get good when he's trash, and you clearly didn't get the gist of my comment dumb ass lol.
you instantly lost me when you said "looked at his profile
You instantly lost me, when i was done reading your comment on my comment.
you lost me when i read the reply to my reply to a comment.
The cameraman single handedly lived through all of this, what a true war hero!
This joke isn't funny any more
@@aboxofbeans it's been 2 years 💀
@@aboxofbeansafter 2 years 😂
The classic Call of Duty bent over running animation
Best part for me is the movie doesnt show the Germans just using the Tiger, instead, they show the Panzer 3
would've been even better if they showed soviets using actual tactics they used during the battle and not the mass charges.
@Joshua Payne I haven't said they never did it. But most of such charges were only used in the first couple of months to delay the enemy as long as possible. After that it was an exception. I highly doubt that they were used in Stalingrad battle, but if you have sources that claim they did happen there, can you link them?
@Joshua Payne There’s a difference between tactical charges and simply throwing men at the enemy without any forms of tactics. The horde stuff was a myth in actuality.
Commissar: Oh, that wave of conscripts didn't work? send the next wave they'll run out of ammunition at some point....
Love how the tank guns are essentially just flare guns
This will happen (or would have happened) at the storming of Area 51 in 2019.
talk about having food, water and plenty of ammunition half of them haven't even got guns
ya. That would suck to say,"commander, i dont have a rifle." "Oh dont worry, keep running and u will find one
They didn't have food they had to burn there villages so the Germans didn't have any thing of value they ate horses cats dogs sone times even children
Why would they waste rifles?
The one thing that can be taken from this movie is the astronomical loss of lives. The average life expectancy of a Red Army soldier in Stalingrad was less than a day. What wasn’t reality is the concept of how order 227 was implemented. You held the line until you won or died. Not mount suicidal assaults on German position. Fighting was amongst the ruins where soldiers would fight more hand to hand. Snipers were active and inflicted a lot of deaths. The only escape would be crossing the Volga were a deserter would be if caught sent to special military tribunal. A sentence could be death or a lot of times put in penal battalions sent on most dangerous missions. NKVD blocking units is existed just not in this situation.
One day but how you can survive in this hell?
@@acido4309 Simply put, it didn´t look like this for the most part. Soviet assaults in Stalingrad were usually conducted by specialized assault teams. The Soviets would usually use the ruins for cover, to advance as close to the enemy position as possible, so the Germans couldn´t use their air and artillery support. From there, they would wait for an opening, or create one by blasting through walls of houses with tanks, AT guns, or anti-tank rifles, to create an unexpected angle of attack.
Failing that, they would attack frontally, using large numbers of grenades(field manuals often advised to carry 10-12 grenades) and close range automatic firepower, mainly PPSh SMGs, with pistols and entrenching tools as backup weapons. After the assault teams captured a position, regular troops moved in to secure and fortify it against the inevitable counter-attack.
Then, the Germans would do something similar to retake the position, so the Soviets had to mount a new attack. Some houses were fought over room by room for days, with Germans holding the lower floors, and the Soviets occupying the attic, or vice versa. It wasn´t uncommon that some positions changed hands ten or even more times
That´s how it went most of the time. There were probably times when the Soviets had to improvise, but they definitely didn´t give rifles only to every other soldier.
indeed, NKVD didnt use machine guns to gun retreating soldiers, mostly using pistols plus those who executed soldiers just because they retreat were sent to penal battallions.
The one problem is that order 227 wasn't even used in Stalingrad. It was almost never used at all. This movie is just way to unrealistic to even be called a war movie. Watch Stalingrad 1993
Aside from the major historical inaccuracies, you gotta admit this movie is entertaining to watch.
You guys know this movie is actually based on a BOOK of the same name written decades ago? It's a collection of accounts from archives and survivors in chronological order.
Just saying, when I watched this scene I was shocked because NOWHERE IN THE BOOK DID IT MENTION A SHORTAGE OF RIFLES. There were Stukas, there were exploding boats... I dont remember the desertion part but there was no mention of rifle shortages! It seriously.
So yeah... that really gets my oats rolling. Stalin began industrialization years ago during the Five Year Plans. If they had tanks, why would they not have rifles? Hollywood Twisting truths to exaggerate an already wellknown stereotype that the Soviets relied on no other strategy besides human waves.
I swear that if the author of the original book watched this movie, he would be furious.
Me vs. Math Test in Nutshell
Yeah I failed.
Oof
Maybe you killed more people than Stalin?
Why are you talking about a nutshell? WTF?! Nutshell is a thing that is left after you eat a nut! Stop confusing people.
@@SingTodayi *Gets COnfused by your comments*
@@herbet3011 That's the purpose :D
Yeah funny thing about this scene... it's entirely made up
Yes, many Soviets were involved in human wave attacks in the battle some with no equipment but they were never sent in half equipped with inferior arms to assault fortified positions. Even Soviet commanders before Zhukov knew that would be pointless and a waste of lives. Also the barrier troops (those that would shoot dead those that fled) were never present in the Stalingrad battle because Zhukov ordered that they be removed and those who retreated would be placed in penal battalions (in charge of digging entrenchments or fighting to regain their honor and avoid being tried). This is backed up by statements from actual veterans from the battle so don't just say "How would you know if you weren't there?"
The whole movie is hilariously inaccurate but the thing that bothers me the most is that some Soviets have rifles while the rest are only carrying cartridges.
This shortage only occurred in 1941 due to the Red Army's shortage of trucks and trains that couldn't transport the millions of tons of guns and ammunition from their vast factories but this is in 1942 the US with their lend-lease gave them 500k trucks and their factories also produced trucks and trains to fix the shortage.
The only thing this movie got right was that the Germans and the Soviets are fighting in a city called Stalingrad.
that guy face at 1:02 looked like pokemon
Realism has left the chat
Girls locker room: “omg i hate PE”
Boys locker room:
Lol xD
Zerg rush - it's been 80 years now, and soviet tactics didn't evolve a bit since then.