I have one of these new stainless 2-1 on my 48 and got rid of my short shots. They sound incredible and they absolutely create some good power for a pipe!
I have the black carbon tip TBR 2in1 on my 2018 StreetBob since new and it sounds unreal and looks and goes great. I've also had no dramas with any rust or corrosion as it still looks brand new out the factory
V&H for the win as usual ! Running the Pro Pipe in my M8 124 build. It sounds and performs awesome. In fact I have never owned a Bike that didn’t have V&H exhaust.
Dont have a Harley yet, but I'm saving for a Low rider s and I came into this video liking Cobra pipes, but it seems Rinehart has that extra low growl over the cobra. I'm going to be dreaming of riding tonight lol.
Hi. Excellent video, thanks for making it. I watched the install videos of each and is it true the only option to preserve the rear foot peg is the Cobra? Regards.
SOUND SOUND SOUND, what about performance? Do you have a comparison of dyno runs? I am not a big fan of 2-1 LOOKS, but I have been very impressed with the performance of my old ThunderHeader, I would be interested in another 2-1 based on performance.
19' FXFBS: I added the Cobra last year (regularly on sale at your site for less than 600), along with the x-lrg K&N filter and V&H FP3. 2k miles later I replaced the cam with S&S 475c and pipe sounds incredible loud, bike runs amazing and you guys post the BEST videos!
@@jjs8046 yes, I think it would have better numbers and the small flat dip between 2500-3300 would be less with a "long" pipe. He dyno with pv to 111hp 123tq. Lot of cams as good or better since I bought and def some 2-1 short pipes that give better performance. But it has been very reliable, so I'm pleased with the combo. good ridin to ya...
Somebody commented in another video, that 2-1’s sound like bi-planes on an M8… Now that all I can hear haha. Thanks for posting all these sound clips though
Can't really say that I do just yet since I just got it late fall and didn't had enough time to ride but, it sounds better than the stock pipes. I hope to be able to ride a lot this coming season
Wish you could have done a Dyno comparison... for which one actually adds performance... After all, you state, "...looking for a performance upgrade..." (smile)
Sound is subjective ( much like we all like different music) so everyone has a favourite. For me the best exhaust (2:1) is missing from this line up….and that’s the Bassani road rage 2
This wasn't a shoot-out. It was a comparison. J&P would never do a real shoot-out cuz they would get crossed with the other three manufacturers that didn't come in as #1 on the dyno. Used to be 15-20 years ago that magazines and publishers used to do unbiased and fair tests to see which carb, exhaust system, cams etc. gave the best performance. Those days are long gone.
How much stuff do I have to change when I switch over to that exhaust I have to change 02 sensors programming and all that no balance off my maps and all that do I have to do all that or could I just put it out and have a nice day
Right ! So looks and sound doesn’t always equate to performance. Actually could harm performance if not tuned correctly. D&D does have a track of outperforming other brands . For example Zippers Performance recommends them and includes them in their Harley performance kits .
looking at the specs on the S&S site, this one increases the torque, and that is what you want. you have the same torque at lower rpm or more torque at any given rpm. I run currently a stock Sport Glide and I hunt BMW GS in the mountains with my torque. I can lean less in the corners, but I compensate with good aiming and torque. I would choose the S&S as torque beats noise (on the long run). The volume of an exhaust body is an indicator how low you can get the tone.
Are you asking the difference between 2 into 1 and 2 into 2? If so, 2 into 1 helps extract the exhaust better and provides the back pressure to increase performance beyond that of a 2 into 2, both horse power and torque. It really helps responsiveness too.
Be cool to set up a same configuration and displacement but in a two stroke. Basically the same look but no push rod tubes. Lots of close cooling fins. A two stroke is always in new oil. Sure be a unique sound from V twin. I think an electrical cut out valve at pipe Y for when you want some rumble. Make it so it doesn’t look like its there. Mild to wild with a button on the bars.
None of these. They are all too small for optimum flow. You want bigger stepped primaries with a race inspired merge collector and a flow to match muff. I have the S&S for a 116HP 114ci. But a 150HP 131ci wants a bigger better pipe. Thrashin, Horsepower Inc, D&D, and shortly Fuel Moto Jackpot Riot, for big displacement, power, softails.
@@vernlochtefeld1626 I am using the Vance and Hines Pro-pipe and I am quite happy with the results. Sounds good to me and has more than enough performance for my needs.
@@charleyrider9775 Bet she is fun. 👍 Not saying the pipe alone would have delivered another 16 HP. Fuel Moto has about 50 dyno charts on their website 124/128s that made 150/150 give or take. (plus a few who’s combo shorted them a bit) Great time to be a HD owner.
S&S 1:22
Rinehart 2:09
Cobra 3:01
V&H 4:25
timestamps for the soundclips of all the pipes.
Cobra for looks, V&H for sound.
Vance and Hines was by FAR the best sounding!
Yes I agree
I have one of these new stainless 2-1 on my 48 and got rid of my short shots. They sound incredible and they absolutely create some good power for a pipe!
Vance and Hines have had the vest sound for pipes for a long time I would say the closest other pipe you could get is a tbr
What about Rine Hart?
Yes but no passenger pegs thats biig zero
Cobra sounded the best and looks great.
Vance & Hines all the way!
Love my pro-pipe on my 13model RG! Sounds awesome!
Cobra by far. Dyno comparisons would be cool......
Great video. Would’ve been nice to see TBR and Bassani thrown in there too
TBR doesn't have adequate shields so do not pass your local burn unit.
I have the black carbon tip TBR 2in1 on my 2018 StreetBob since new and it sounds unreal and looks and goes great.
I've also had no dramas with any rust or corrosion as it still looks brand new out the factory
@@robertpolkamp Back in the day there was no such thing as heat shields
@@drifterawh
And?
V&H for the win as usual ! Running the Pro Pipe in my M8 124 build. It sounds and performs awesome. In fact I have never owned a Bike that didn’t have V&H exhaust.
Hated this pipe
@@ballstud2007why did you hate it
$836 for the S&S exhaust?! Watching this in early '22 (not even two years later) and that exhaust now retails for $1,450. W... T...
Yeah. What a bummer.
Absolutely wild. $800 for the V&H now $1,300+. A fixed money supply would treat Americans well.
Holler at Joe Biden 😤
Yeah and V&H for right @ 800? Nah more like 1200-1400🤣
Bought the V&H, best look and sound in my opinion. Is almost $1100 now, gnarly inflation hikes
I have that V&H on my 2020 Low Rider S and it sounds mean.
Dont have a Harley yet, but I'm saving for a Low rider s and I came into this video liking Cobra pipes, but it seems Rinehart has that extra low growl over the cobra. I'm going to be dreaming of riding tonight lol.
Have you gotten the FXLRS yet??
Vance n hinze all the way. Looked and sounded best by far. The other 3 all sounded identical
They need to come out with a black version of the Vance & Hines
Hi. Excellent video, thanks for making it. I watched the install videos of each and is it true the only option to preserve the rear foot peg is the Cobra? Regards.
SOUND SOUND SOUND, what about performance? Do you have a comparison of dyno runs? I am not a big fan of 2-1 LOOKS, but I have been very impressed with the performance of my old ThunderHeader, I would be interested in another 2-1 based on performance.
Harley guys aren't into power I guess.🤷♂️
It's how your eng is built
@@ronaldlsmith1 no. If you have a collector you'll make more power on any engine. According to Smokey Yunick; but what does he know....
19' FXFBS: I added the Cobra last year (regularly on sale at your site for less than 600), along with the x-lrg K&N filter and V&H FP3. 2k miles later I replaced the cam with S&S 475c and pipe sounds incredible loud, bike runs amazing and you guys post the BEST videos!
Have you dynoed it?
@@jjs8046 yes, I think it would have better numbers and the small flat dip between 2500-3300 would be less with a "long" pipe. He dyno with pv to 111hp 123tq. Lot of cams as good or better since I bought and def some 2-1 short pipes that give better performance. But it has been very reliable, so I'm pleased with the combo. good ridin to ya...
I live in California so I decided to go with a S&S this time around to be safe....
Somebody commented in another video, that 2-1’s sound like bi-planes on an M8… Now that all I can hear haha. Thanks for posting all these sound clips though
18 low rider, fab28!! Sounds good looks amazing. Made really good power on the dyno with a harley power cam!
Fab28 on my '19 roadster and '21 fxbbs is 🔥🔥🔥
D&D, Burns far better than them all !!
That V&H 🦁 roars:)
That Vance & Hines is just plain wicked sounding! 🤤
wish it came in black though!
I have a cobra el Diablo. Love the sound in person
Is it too loud?
@@biendeberroa927 they aren't loud at all. I just installed mine on my Dyna. Idle they're low and rumbly. They get a nice crack when you open it up
V&H on my sportster. It’s so freaking loud. Was difficult to install and burns everything; clothes, boots, etc.
Loved it. Any chance of a V&H Pro Street install and sound check?
I just put on the S&S on my 114 2020 Heritage, Let's see what happens in the next few weeks. Hopefully we can get a better sound
So do you like it ?
Can't really say that I do just yet since I just got it late fall and didn't had enough time to ride but, it sounds better than the stock pipes. I hope to be able to ride a lot this coming season
s&s race version! Cobra looks cool though
What about the high flow Vance and Hines 2into 1 pcx? They have a long pipe and a short version?
V&H , Rine, Cobra, SS , in that order by sound
V&H! Hell yeah 🤘🏻
Great pipes no matter which one you choose!
Agreed. I like that we get to hear the exhaust. I wish he went into HP and TQ specs over stock.
I like the freedom pipes I'm surprised there not on the list. I'm a fan of reinhart
Any info on which is least loudest?
Wish you could have done a Dyno comparison... for which one actually adds performance...
After all, you state, "...looking for a performance upgrade..." (smile)
Sound is subjective ( much like we all like different music) so everyone has a favourite. For me the best exhaust (2:1) is missing from this line up….and that’s the Bassani road rage 2
This wasn't a shoot-out. It was a comparison. J&P would never do a real shoot-out cuz they would get crossed with the other three manufacturers that didn't come in as #1 on the dyno. Used to be 15-20 years ago that magazines and publishers used to do unbiased and fair tests to see which carb, exhaust system, cams etc. gave the best performance. Those days are long gone.
I did come here looking for dyno numbers
So witch one would be better for the 2021 street bob 114
Please let us listen to bikes at idle alittle longer before revving. Otherwise nicely done.
Could you do the same comparison for Indian 111 models
How much stuff do I have to change when I switch over to that exhaust I have to change 02 sensors programming and all that no balance off my maps and all that do I have to do all that or could I just put it out and have a nice day
He seemed uninterested with the Rinehart with the shortest description.
Patrick, you rock!
I have the s&s it’s bad ass I I like it a lot l, the only thing i hate is the ugly brake pedal you have to get if you have mid controls.
Does anyone know the sound decibel output for each of these Exhausts?
The Rinehart stole my hart :D
Thank you good go . you gas the bob. 114 like a man !!! That is tha way haa ahaa i like it !!!
Hi Here in august 2023 I'm having trouble confirming the Rienhart 2-1 fits my 2019 Sport Glide 107ci. Any thoughts??
My low rider st came stock with a heavy breather. Do I need a tune after installing a full exhaust?
Does the Cobra exhaust system accept Wideband sensors?
Fuel Moto is bang for the buck!!
That Vance and Hines is amazing . What tuner would I need to purchase with it? What air sucker ? I got a 2020 softtail slim ,Thanks .
Vance and Hines FP3. Can't go wrong
Power vision!
SE if you want to keep your warranty.
Cobra el Diablo for the win
Why no “T” header?…by far the best
Hey will all of these exhaust work with Harley Davidson Breakout ?
D&D beats them all!
Right ! So looks and sound doesn’t always equate to performance. Actually could harm performance if not tuned correctly.
D&D does have a track of outperforming other brands . For example Zippers Performance recommends them and includes them in their Harley performance kits .
Love my v&h 2into1 hi-output shorty.
Hell yah! Like i said in some other posts, I have the new stainless 2-1 on my Sporty and it is incredible in looks, power and sound!
Are you running them with a tuner ?
Can you do a D&D Pipe for comparison?
What did you think of the rinehart?
V&h 2in 1 how can i buy i'm here in philippines
I bought my 2019 fxbb and it came with short shots. Can’t decide between cobra or the Vance and Hines upsweep
I got the upsweep on my Sporty and it is the best exhaust I have ever ran! I absolutely can't get enough of it!
Cobra surprised me
Where is the TBR??? This is the best💪😎
@@TheTightSqueeze the same for me on my low rider s 114😎
Anyone know what intake is installed on this bike?
What’s the performance benefits between a 2-1 exhaust system and a muffler?
looking at the specs on the S&S site, this one increases the torque, and that is what you want. you have the same torque at lower rpm or more torque at any given rpm. I run currently a stock Sport Glide and I hunt BMW GS in the mountains with my torque. I can lean less in the corners, but I compensate with good aiming and torque. I would choose the S&S as torque beats noise (on the long run). The volume of an exhaust body is an indicator how low you can get the tone.
Are you asking the difference between 2 into 1 and 2 into 2? If so, 2 into 1 helps extract the exhaust better and provides the back pressure to increase performance beyond that of a 2 into 2, both horse power and torque. It really helps responsiveness too.
Is the Diablo Cobra legal in California?
vance and hines all the way!
Be cool to set up a same configuration and displacement but in a two stroke.
Basically the same look but no push rod tubes. Lots of close cooling fins.
A two stroke is always in new oil. Sure be a unique sound from V twin.
I think an electrical cut out valve at pipe Y for when you want some rumble. Make it so it doesn’t look like its there. Mild to wild with a button on the bars.
Scrap compliance. V&H is thee only way to go.
Vance & Hines hands down!!!!
Is your Vance & Hines legal in California? Because it goes slightly up is it in the way of passenger foot pegs?
This particular pipe is not available in CA. The passenger peg clears the pipe no problem.
rb racing beats em all for sound and performance shame no one shows em off
Vancen Hines La # 1 Mi Favorita
Which one is the most powerful??
More of a "Sound off" than a "Shootout", next time put them all on a dyno, That said, I have the V&H on my 2020 LRS, Awesome pipe.
Where do I buy this SNS pipe does not have it on their website
What bike do you have? The one in the video is here www.jpcycles.com/product/57832/s-s-cycle-50-state-legal-superstreet-2-into-1-exhaust-system
Cobra 🐍
Thanks! :)
V&H all day!
Thanks
I have a 2020 Lowrider S with the 131 coming for it. What exhaust system would you recommend?
None of these. They are all too small for optimum flow. You want bigger stepped primaries with a race inspired merge collector and a flow to match muff.
I have the S&S for a 116HP 114ci. But a 150HP 131ci wants a bigger better pipe.
Thrashin, Horsepower Inc, D&D, and shortly Fuel Moto Jackpot Riot, for big displacement, power, softails.
@@vernlochtefeld1626 I am using the Vance and Hines Pro-pipe and I am quite happy with the results. Sounds good to me and has more than enough performance for my needs.
@@charleyrider9775 What did it dyno?
You might say the stock 114 was more than enough for your needs. Why pay for 12 bananas to take home 10?
@@vernlochtefeld1626 134 hp & 142 tq.
@@charleyrider9775 Bet she is fun. 👍
Not saying the pipe alone would have delivered another 16 HP. Fuel Moto has about 50 dyno charts on their website 124/128s that made 150/150 give or take. (plus a few who’s combo shorted them a bit) Great time to be a HD owner.
RineHart is the Best
“You California people get to make the same horsepower all of us make”. 😂 I see what you did there. 😂🤙🏼
Спасибо за обзор. Интересно.
Vance and Hines had the best sound.
Do all of these allow you to keep your passenger pegs?
Yes there is a passenger peg option on all of them.
Cobra. My choice.
wow now u need to make it sound like a harley
Can’t have a 2-1 comparison
everything m8 sounds the same to me
Vance and Hines
Paid 250 for a dan moto and its AWESOME.
No its not. Those pipes are crap
V & H was the only one that sounded like a Harley. The others sounded weak & anemic.
Put them on a dyno
Fab28 >>>
S&S all the way.....
Kesstech
Its not a shootout without a D&D Billet Cat
In high school I too was a nobody who resorted to the loud exhaust noise to get attention.
Then I graduated.
Yet, here you are trolling for attention. Probably should have focused more on growing up than graduating
@@mikebronc2902 I'm trolling to point out the obvious to the oblivious.
@@randyodonald9172 terrible attempt
@@mikebronc2902 It is hard to get through to the oblivious.
But for their sake, and ours, we must try.