Gun Yoga Fail: The Fagnus Revolver
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- Опубліковано 18 кві 2017
- Produced by Alexandre Fagnus of Liege, this is a military style, six-shot, .450 caliber revolver with a particularly interesting and unusual unloading mechanism. The rear half of the trigger guard is a lever which can be rotated 90 degrees out from the frame, unlocking the barrel and cylinder. The front half of the trigger guard then acts as a second lever to pivot the action open around the rear sight and operate the spring loaded ejector star. The gun dates to roughly the late 1870s or 1880s, and I was not able to find any information on production quantity or even the specific cartridge it is chambered for.
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"The Fagnus"
Very GTA-esque in it's naming.
It's funny because I don't understand French, lol.
@@joegillian314 I am French, but can't see the word game here. Or maybe but a bit "hair pulled" (literal french translation of "far-fetched" ;) )
@@archloy The fuck you mean, its called a Fagnus, its a step away from being called a Fagnum
@@archloy it’s because when pronounced in plain english it contains a certain homophobic slur
@@dry9005 okay, too deep (:p) for me ^^ Thanks !
One of the few channels you can automatically like before watching cause Ian never fails to produce quality stuff.
Yet you will find a variant of your comment on more or less every video from any channel on youtube with a reasonably sized subscriber base ^^
eldsprutandedrake Yep. If you're a fan of your subscriber and know they always put out good quality videos, the comment in question is inevitable.
I was just about to comment, at the time of me writing this, the video has 1,525 likes and 0 dislikes. That's just bananas.
Up to 2 dislikes now. Probably two people who don't like any revolvers.
Just to check the recoil.
Still rather have that system than loading gate and ejecting one cartridge at a time.
D3faulted1 I’d have been all over that revolver if top breaks or swing outs were unavailable. It’s a clever design
D3faulted1 word. The Russians (Ian’s covered it ofc, Nagant M1870) had a system that was was better than this (gravity tip-back). But, in a firefight back then (even now), any slight advantage can change the outcome, and back then (like you mentioned) against comparable models, this would have been a niceeee advantage to have for sure
@@defaultusername123 you mean the galand?
@@defaultusername123 Thats not a Nagant pal, Nagants are similar to SAA's.
@@georgewhitworth9742 he meant the Galand revolver.
the ejector is beautiful, like a piece of a victorian tea-set
just a note here. "cast steel" on a firearm or tool does not mean that the object was cast. it means that the steel that it was made from was a type that was invented in the 1730's by Benjamin Huntsman in Sheffield England. as cast steel was thought to be the best, the better quality edge tools were made from it up into the early twentieth century and marked as such.
like the 'fluid steel' designation - ~ better than wrought ...
"Fighting Iron" by Art Gogan is an excellent book on the subject of iron, steel, and other metals used in arms.
It does for a Ruger.
@@zacharyrollick6169 Nowadays a good cast revolver has no downsides to it being cast anyways.
@@stuv1996 Yep. My cast frame P89 is a tank.
I heard these were made for Australians, since with normal top breaks the rounds would fall out before you closed.
F@%k you, too! Mate!
The emus still won
Lmao
@@LeMeowAu ye
Those damn upside down australians
I have one of these A. Fagnes revolvers in .41 center fire caliber,with ivory stocks,although my Fagnes loads through a side gate (6 rounds) and is not latched at the top.The interesting thing about mine is the left side plate can be easily pivoted away,exposing the internals for service.It is a DA revolver. I have found very little info about these online and was shocked to see Ian doing a review of a Fagnes.The quality is excellent and I'm surprised there is so little known about these.
Interesting
Seems like a nice strong locking mechanism, given the "double latch" provided and the top strap.
Until the tolerances get loose and it starts rattling in the holster as you walk.
Hold up..... Are you promoting your stuff?
Jacob Staten my spurs go Jingle Jangle Jingle as I go riding merrily along
I read "gun yoga" and instantly pictured the gun kata from Equilibrium. This is so much stranger.
I’m here because I thought it said “fungus revolver”
sounds like a terraria weapon
All of my firearms knowledge comes from you. Always loved guns and shooting but never got into the technical designations, history and mechanics of firearms until I started watching your channel. Started watching in range and got in to my local 2 gun competitions as well. These 2 UA-cam channels have legitimately changed my life. Thanks Ian. Thanks Karl.
It's interesting to come back to this after Othais discovered that Fagnus pretty much designed the modern revolver lockwork.
Forgotten weapons is the best historical firearms and firearms in general educator on youtube I know. I have thouroghly enjoyed most videos through this platform. If Ian ever leaves its gonna be tough. Really just love the way he narrorates and how informational he is. Very likeable person. It'd be a privilage to check out WWII era's with him. Thanks for the good work sir. Keep it up.
That title reads like a FailArmy video title
Wtf are you doing here Mike. You FRAUD
watchout bro dont be talkin down on my boy gun jesus.
Shut it
This is a piece that actually makes me wish I had 'auction-level' finances. It's perfect: it looks like it's made a dragon angry, uses a mystery cartridge (so I would enjoy it as a curio only), and would provide hours of entertainment while I mastered unloading the thing one-handed (even though it wouldn't be loaded, because I wouldn't have cartridges for it). Gun yoga fail, maybe, but not a downward-facing dog.
It always makes me sad when you say the gun is up for sale, and here I am with nothing like the kind of money that antique firearms go for.
This one sold quite reasonably.
"Fin-you" is not what I thought was the pronunciation when I read the title. That's all I'm gonna say on that. ;)
gun jesus will destroy you.
Gnu -> gnus -> f'gnu
gnu --> fnu--> faganusu
I gotta say, this might be the one channel that never fails to make a good video, and rarely fails to outright amaze me.
I have never, ever heard an American say "buggered up" before.
British TV has been handing me awesome words for years now. Thanks, Red Dwarf... now not only do I use British slang but I half expect them all to say "smegger" as if that's a real word. :)
@@womble321 No that's actually the word they based it on. Red Dwarf is set in the distant future where Dave Lister is the only surviving human. "smeg" has replaced all profanity. Smegface, smeg off, smegger, smegging... it's basically the show's bleep word. Farscape used "frell" and other shows have coined other profane "alien" terms.
"Buggered up" is always the phrase I have heard used to refer to damaged gun screws here in the US. But my experience only goes back to the early 80's.
This show is supposed to be refined and informed, so saying "fucked it all to hell" isnt appropriate
Yes - it caught me by surprise too!
Fascinating design, one wonders how practical it would be in the field. Nice piece.
I once knew a man named Magnus who often went out of his way to assert his aggressiveness in a passive nature. After some time we developed an insulting name for him using his pompous sounding name as the base for this slur. It's fascinating that a revolver also has the same name, brings back quality memories for sure.
Don’t be racist against homosexuals, bro.
Love the channel, Great content!! keep it up!
There's something beautiful and evocative about very worn weapons of this age. It makes you wonder what their use-life was.
This handgun with a speed loader would have been a force to be reckoned with.
I think I saw one in a history of firearms book. The pic showed it as was retailed in a velvet lined display box with a speed loader mechanism & 18 rounds of ammo. Presumably it was intended more as a status symbol than an actual combat weapon like the Webley.
While I have little interest in the specifics of guns I love how he simply states "I can't know that" and moves on.
I'm shocked to find that Ian didn't have the full and complete history of the firearm already! If he doesn't know it already, I'd be surprised to see someone else who did.
"Screws are a bit buggered up..."
Dude, you spent too long hanging out with ex-military types when you were in England...
My dad would have used the same terminology and he never got east of Connecticut.
That's an interesting one. Thank you for the video!
There is so many Fagnus revolver Variants out there, we need videos On those
Yooooo! U just blew the guns back out bruh you ruthless 😂
I think it’s a very ingenious design for it’s time. I’d have no problem using a gun like this back in the day.
That is, to me, a really cool looking revolver. Gun yoga and everything.
Thank you gun Jesus!
He even looks the part ;-)
Made gun jesus fallout 4 mod, it is dank af
Douglas Fulmer "The Children of Ian"
Praise Gun Jesus.
Douglas Fulmer. Care to tell us what your mod is called and where we can find it? I know a few people that would use it.
I really like the aesthetics of this revolver, it looks nice and chunky.
Between guns and beer, the Belgians make a lot of really cool shit.
Willard Lentz I don't know what their gun laws are like, but I assume that since it's Europe, they're shitty. Shame that the country that brought us FN can't even buy their products
And waffles?
***** I prefer pancakes
Greetings from Belgium ! Actually, our gun laws are not that bad. I own multiple FN products, including assault rifles but we are limited to semi-auto. Also, we can't have suppresor or mounted laser pointer (but no problem with red dot or holographic sights). We don't have shitty laws like fixed/limited capacity magazine or exaggerated barrel length requirement.
The only FN products that are illegal for us to own are the ones using the 5,7mm (P90 & Five-Seven pistol) because politicians think it as a cop killer caliber (even tough I can own a .50 cal).
Corentin Naisse What kind of absurd licensing do you have to go through to buy them though?
This actually seems like a pretty handy reloading mechanism if you ask me.
that loop on the grip would come in handy because if tried to reload this while under fire i can see this gun being dropped quite easily.
The name seems like something Leman Russ would call his brother.
Young Archaeotech that’s what I thought too. Very utilitarian for the time and that pretty little hammer
*Faint "NEEEERRD!" echoes in distance*
I've seen a similar flip-up mechanism on the Mauser zig-zag revolver, but the rest is new to me.
i wounder if the sight ending before end of barrel was a way to index a muzzle device or bayonet. most the time if you see something odd like that it has a purpose.
I think its because of the "Yoga" in the title, but the recommended videos for this are hilarious. A few legit FW videos, followed by about a dozen educational videos for pre-schoolers.
that Ejecting mechanism could entertain me for hours, "click click click click"
Ian! I'm a little surprised that you didn't mention webley! not at the beginning or talking cartridges (the webley .455?). But anyway, as a brit myself you redeemed yourself by saying "buggered up!" 😂
If this thing appears in a video game, the reload animation sure is a hell to animate. haha!
I like it, looks like it was well-made.
Buggered up........Ian I am shocked.
I literally would love to see a new revolver incorporating designs of the Fagnus and the Russian Galand revolvers...
I don't know why but they are so mechanically fascinating but in the same way aesthetically appealing.
Haha such an interesting period that produced so many things.
It looks like a gun that points nicely, so the sights probably ain't an issue and I bet the reload in practiced hands is very quick.
This actually looks really cool
Ian, would having a GOOD digital caliper help with identifying the cartridge in situations like this? Could you then know the chamber diameter and if it headspaces on the cartridge mouth the depth of it? Also, what about one of those fiber optic endoscopic cameras? There are ones that plug into your phone that would allow you to get a good look inside the mechanism with it still being assembled.
This gun is crazy. Webley makes sense. This one u have to point the barrel at yourself. Brilliant
Idk seems like a smart take on the break action since the empty cartridges just fall out rather than taking forever to pop them out one at a time.
Indeed, you just have to hold it the opposite way when loading .. I think it can be practiced to be reasonably safe and fast to do .. could be worse ..
I wonder if a forensics lab could reveal the markings using methods normally employed to uncover ground off serial numbers, it might reveal the calibre.
very cool mechanics!
looks like the revolver from bioshock, right down to the diamond shape on the handle and the lanyard loop
Hi Ian!
Have you thought about maybe reviewing rare or interesting camouflages in FW or InRange?
As a guy who likes top break revolvers and S&W tip up revolvers I want this.
I was holding my breath waiting for Ian to pronounce the name of the revolver.
1k likes and zero dislikes. Way to go
Daniel Heines2 I never understand why people dislike Ian's videos; it's like "man I hate learning about sweet guns, I'm gonna dislike this video"
Chrausis exactly
Turtle you cannot joke about suicide. he made a small joke that was slightly funny, but he didn't mean the whole "community" if you will even call it that. I'd like my comments to be nice. Also, You're*
I think is is interesting that if you watch Forgotten Weapons videos there are often 17 (or a similar number) dislikes regardless of how long it has been up or how many likes it has. I suspect the same people just watch every video and dislike it.
I want one just to display it opened because that design looks cool when opened
It's most likely intended for .450 Adams ball Mk I. How did I come about this? Circumstantially. I've found other Spirlet revolvers and none of them are marked either, but .450 Adams was the first adopted .450 cartridge in England and would have been the most common choice. Length of cylinders between these and the Fagnus appear identical. One Spirlet was photographed with an Eley headstamped case in the chamber, which would have been an Adams ball Mk III (I think), which is still .450 Adams.
What do you mean by "yoga fail"? The gun seems quite practical, perhaps not as simple as a forward-breaking Webley, but still probably quite quick to reload.
I mean opening the gun and unloading it in one motion with the cartridges falling away from the shooter looks like a cool concept, just reloading this thing must be a royal pain.
No more than any other revolver of the time.
That's a cool gun. I like the gun yoga mechanism.
That's an awesome revolver id love to have one
Thumbnail caught me off guard. Thought the gun was shaped like that and had like 3 triggers.
I thought that said "Fangus". I was soooo prepped for a Steve Brule joke.
That mechanism is neat!
or:S.A. Alexandre FAGNUS & Cie
L’arme
Il s’agit d’un revolver à cadre fermé, à percussion centrale et à platine simple et double action.
Le barillet est cannelé et contient 6 chambres de calibre .450.
Le canon d’acier est hexagonal avec guidon en demi-lune.
L’arme est munie sur le flanc gauche d’une clé coudée et pivotante permettant l’ouverture de la plaque de protection donnant accès au mécanisme interne. La crossette gauche peut également être retirée sans outil. Les pièces du mécanisme sont numérotées (de 1 à 5) pour faciliter le démontage et le remontage.
Une baguette de déchargement est placée sur le flanc droit du canon et est maintenue par la tête moletée et pivotante.
L’alimentation se fait parla portière latérale droite s’abaissant vers l’arrière grâce à un ressort interne.
Les poinçons
L’arme porte les poinçons du banc d’épreuves de Liège, à savoir :
ELG sur étoile dans un ovale vertical : acceptation définitive, en usage de 1846 à 1893.
M étoilé : contremarque du contrôleur post 1877.
Cette arme a donc été fabriquée entre 1876 et 1893.
I love these bizarre, steam punky, over-engineered guns.
im sure there's a "proper" or optimal way of opening this that is relatively quick and makes the upside down break make sense. Maybe the designer thought just turn your palm up and do a flick to open and then go back palm down to close.
I wonder if it was meant as a Cavalry pistol, since it looks like it can be manipulated easily and quickly one handed, allowing the other hand to hold the rains
I'm glad they let you know its Cast steel.
Interesting styling
I really want to see a video on the flamethrower burnt Vietnam war rifle. It would be insanely cool
I noticed that in single action you have to let go of the trigger to drop the hammer which seems like a design flaw that'd hamper accuracy and potentially prevent it from going off.
"If you know more about it please put it in the comments.'" Come on gun Jesus, who you kidding, nobody knows more than you.
great vid :)
You would have to be a real Fagnus to design a gun like this.
I love it such brilliance in the guns simplicity ...Muah hahahaaahaaa🧐🧐🧐😄😄😄
What did the holster look like? Maybe the rib is ground off at the muzzle and beveled like such to index or snug the barrel in place as not to jostle it about.
And another video with Ian having a plaster on his finger... Does he catch stray cats in his free time?
this gun is actually really cool
If the sight is shorter then the barrel it is probably easier to on and off holster it!
With where is my Irish whiskey I agree that boy always gets a two thumbs up👍🏻👍🏻
I've been singing too many songs in Latin recently, I assumed it was pronounced "fah-nyoos".
Could the weird, chopped-off front sight have something to do with holstering, maybe?
Im just guessing
Fagnus revolver resembles the galand revolver. If I was going to guess the fagnus be in the same period might have been an attempt to make a cheaper easier to galand revolver. Or maybe a sleeker easier to make version of a webley revolver. It seems to me that the fagnus revolver has some elements that the webley later refined, but fagnus revolver opened up like the galand revolver. This is all just speculation of course, but maybe thier might be something to this Idea.
Did Ian just say "Buggered Up" in reference to some of the workings?
Ian, may I recommend that you get yourself a 'Vernier callipers measuring instrument' [which includes the metric system] to more accurately determine the calibre of say, the entry port and or the barrel discharge port of each weapon. Be it either a manual instrument for under $20-00 US dollars, or a digital read-out instrument obtainable for around $30 plus US dollars. I trust that this could well provide you with a good result.
That is cool! If Rube Goldberg made firearms this would have been his first gun.
That 'sight rib' looks like it might have been a crude version of a pictinny rail. Bet you could mount a scope on that, though I've never understood why you'd try to put a scope on a pistol.
Cool gun
At 3:48, when operating the dry fire, single action what caused that slight hang up upon squeezing the trigger? The double action was much smoother.
Did Ian say the screws were “buggered up”? He’s becoming Anglicised.
Yes
I love it!
i guess the designer was trying to one up the galand revolver
I read "Gun yoga flail" and became intrigued...
unique action, it's cool ! I like this revolver more than webley.