Disturbing Reality Of Asylums
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I wrote a paper on asylums and the malpractices that commonly happened/still happen and it made my teacher cry. It was very uncomfortable but she opened up to me about how her great aunt was lobotomised and basically left to rot in the asylum until her great grandma broke down and told the rest of the family what happened. I guess I hadn't realized until that moment how recently these things actually were. It's actually horrifying to think about.
My grandmother told me of her aunt (who was a lesbian). She was sent to an asylum and isolated from the family. Just because she had sexual urges toward the same sex, she was forces into a psych ward. She sadly was left there to die. It's fucked up.
I’m so sorry
@@ashleylucas6627 that's so terrible, may she rest in peace
Its wild to think there are people alive today that remember those horrible practices being done! The scariest part is that it wouldn't surprise me one bit to find out that they're still trying to figure out how to do a "successful" lobotomy.
@@gingerleamcwow435 oh yeah I wouldn't doubt it either. I mean, they're still trying to find ways to "cure" autism so it's definitely still on the table.
The way they "proved" that dude was insane is how my family "proved" i was using drugs at 12 years old. Just accuse someone of something over and over again, then when they get mad at you for not listening to them go "well, if you weren't you wouldn't get so defensive and mad at us for saying so".
Then they accuse you so much it becomes some sort of self fulfilling prophecy.
@@cdogthehedgehog6923 haha, you know what's up, huh? Took awhile for me, and they'd stopped by then, but at 17 I definitely was just like "fuck it, hydros are the shit!"
@@burninsherman1037 Lmao my rents accused me from age 11-12 and i didnt smoke till i was 15ish.
Then they caught me when i was 17 and it was like, "see i told you he does the weed."
Bitch when i was twelve i didnt even know what that shit was, i learned from _you._
Reminds me of my time at school.
"Are you on drugs"
"No"
"SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING A DRUG USER WOULD SAY"
"......"
The fact that mentally unwell people were being sent to an asylum and are basically just tortured instead of rehabilitated is the most mental thing about it all.
Have you been to downtown Seattle? Now we just let the crazy people torture each other in the street. We haven’t really gotten that much better as a society.
A lot of these things were rehab. They had no idea what was wrong with any of these people so they just shotgunned any idea that came in their heads.
@@jordanwhite8718it's much better in Europe and Canada. USA is just a circus show heading for the end.
@@CynthiaRoseKthis is one of the most painfully ignorant things ive ever heard.
Well when it seems the mentally ill are running the places it's no suprise.
The idea of a veteran suffering PTSD being lobotomized and therefore having to live the nightmares internally is HORRIFYING.
After a suicide attempt, my aunt was sent to the psych ward, which thankfully allowed phonecalls. She was there for about three days till an inmate was so cracked out they lit themselves on fire. She called her mom the same day and mom was like, ok, this is clearly antithetical to trying to cure suicidal tendencies, and pulled her out. That side of the family was and still is tight, that is to say, all members are kept abreast of eachother and pooling money was common. The family quickly decided to just give her a motel room with a phone, tv and food money (college age) and let her be for a few months. It ain't therapy but it's still a heck of a lot better than the psyche ward.
As someone who’s spent a couple months alone at a family cabin in a similar situation it can be (depending on the mental affliction) really healing. Time alone is very therapeutic in the right setting as long as people are safe to be alone. I think a ton of people would benefit from such.
I attempted, they sent me and hr and a half away from my family for over a week when ONE THING that can help is a family member showing you love when you need it most. 🙁
This Indian DR at Joplin Hospital was vile and evil refusing to let people leave even used me not eating very much due to not sleeping from nurses creaking the loud doors open every....single...hour to stare at you, this DR tried giving me Abilify when makes you even more insane. They tried to give me a 15 thousand dollar bill 3 weeks after I was able to escape the hellhole, I said RIGHHHT boy really?? Take me to court I dare you 😂 I did not ask to be there, I was forced.
They probably had a life insurance policy on them.
i attempted multiple times and was sent to the psych ward multiple times. yeah it didn’t help lmao. the first ward there was actual mistreatment of the patients. the next two weren’t great but at the time they were better than being at home. in all of them, they didn’t care about whether i actually got better or not they just needed me to pretend i was better to let me go. and they give you all kinds of antidepressants, anti anxiety medicine, mood stabilizers, or anti psychotics. it was rare finding nurses who were actually kind. years later i was still under my parents roof and a therapist i had said it was his goal to make sure i never get sent back to one of those places again lol. 10/10 don’t ever recommend going to a psych ward. it was violating, dehumanizing, and utterly unhelpful. that was less than 10 years ago and they still aren’t good places but at least they aren’t comparable to how they used to be 😂
@@alphagerudothe only insane people in this story were the mfs who tried to justify charging you 15k
My mom was institutionalized against her will in a psych hospital in eastern Canada, back in the 70's and 80's - her father basically signed over all rights to her doctors, and she was subjected to both ECT and experimental trials of some of the earliest antipsychotics, miscarrying her first pregnancy as a result. She's schizoaffective and does really well on the right medication nowadays, but that experience left her with a lifelong mistrust of doctors and authority figures.
As someone who's schizoaffective, I don't blame her
@ilikebutteredtoast2677 You don’t need to be schizoaffective not to do that.
@@SorrowAvenue i was more saying out of solidarity
And now Canada says kys over a stubbed toe
Wow... poor woman and child :/ I'm so sorry that happened to your mother and I'm glad she's doing better now, nothing will take back the terrible things that already happened but at least it's over
I am so thankful I don’t live in a time where you’d get institutionalized for being slightly stressed out or bummed out about something
OK WE GET IT HE IS TAKING A BREAK NO NEED TO BRING IT UP EVERY VIDEO
Nah we need to bring it back ten fold.
@@shakespearishot71I’m sorry you have to deal with that dumb shit and I really hope you have people you can actually talk to/trust in your life bro ❤
@@Gingersdadwhat are you talking about??
Return them.
the scariest part is knowing that most people today believe the medical industry is now 100% safe, caring and only has your wellbeing in mind
Sadly true (some people unfortunately blindly trust a lot of industries)! 0_0
I wouldn't be surprised if most people blindly trust medical industries because they provide life-sustaining drugs/treatment and they can't break away from the industry safely if they completely went an alternative route.
Seriously. I just googled "psychiatric ward" and more than 80% of them barley break 3 stars. The reviews are wild at most of em
Exactly
@@nicodoe9396Im gonna look into that
Wish I could like this comment 1000x
The evolution of human rights and mental health awareness is honestly horrifying and interesting at the same time.
It's like "Philosophy of a Knife"-tier stuff.
Still not where it needs to be unfortunately
It's funny because you get a different reaction depending on which direction you go
If you start back then and come to now, you're like "damn we really didn't improve nearly as much as we should have"
If you start now and go back then, you're like "oh you think things are bad NOW???"
@@Maxisamo1Was gonna say something to that effect to the other poster.
As someone with both epilepsy and dyslexia, yeah I think we've come further than you're giving them credit.
it is though@@exocolt15
I wrote my undergrad thesis about Nellie Bly’s “Ten Days In a Madhouse” from 1887, where she actually went undercover in a New York asylum as a patient. They would force anyone with “un-American” and unfavorable qualities into these asylums; the poor, immigrants who didn’t speak English, elderly, women who spoke back against bosses/husbands, etc. Patients would be starved, beaten, and stripped of clothes/blankets while doctors used the asylum funds for their own huge feasts and personal use. Her exposé began discussions on treatment of patients in asylums and acceptance of female journalists, super interesting read.
I read a book by a guy named Clifford w beers who had a very similar experience, and founded the American Mental Hygiene Movement, which I had never heard of. One of the best books I've ever read. Absolutely incredible what that man went through.
Everyone I don't like squashed into one building and kept there?
Need that back.
@@markwatton4752 you watched this whole video and rid this comment and this is what you got out of it?😟
@@vaux144 you watched this whole video and rid this comment and this is what you got out of it?😟
I was in a child’s asylum. I was just a kid that wanted to go home. I stayed on my best behavior the entire time and ignored all the weird stuff they did til the day they said I’d would be able to go home. The day came and they said that something got delayed and I won’t be able to go til a week later.
Given I was 10 I threw quite the temper tantrum. Nothing violent, I would always hide or lock myself in a room. Their response was to man handle me and tie me to a gurney and leave me alone in a small room. I ended up passing out after hours in a panic. I was dehydrated and had markings on my wrist and ankles where I was tied down.
Place isn’t in business anymore. Got shut down years later for abuse. Thank you for this video. I know I got off relatively light compared to some stories I heard of. It definitely colored the rest of my life with distrust.
You were probably annoying as fuck that’s why
How long ago was that?
I’m really sorry about your story and so happy you got out and hope you’re doing as good as you can.
@@Mech-Mech we’re talking decades here. The endless assault of time is rough.
Sorry to hear that. The people in those times didn't know Jesus so they basically lived as lawless beasts and we're only seeing their brutality in the records left behind.
Don't forget about the love of God, okay?
❤️🩹🙏
They sterilized my aunt at a hospital in NC because she had schizophrenia. This was around the late 70s or early 80s. The hospital wasn't shut down until the late 2010's. honestly hospitals haven't gotten much better. It's still horrible the amount of overdosing, patient on patient violence and staff SAing patients is still alarming. I wish more was done to keep the mentally ill safe when they need to get help.
tbf, I've been to some rehabs and I've seen far far far too many staff members end up in the hospital because they tried to stop a patient from harming someone else, I saw 3 grown men get teeth knocked out because they tried to restrain a patient that was attacking other patients.
Never been to one where staff SAed the patients but just saying, when you have people going through withdrawals, schizophrenic etc all in one room, you'll get issues no matter what you do
@@nicholasbrown668 I agree but there should be better training to A keep the staff safe and B keep patients safe. But funding for mental hospitals are so poor. We were visiting a friend in one and it was flooded at the time, they didn't even bother to move the patients to a safer ward. This was in the children's unit btw
most places (this is anecdotal and just my experience talking with staff) have very good training programs (the last place I went to required all staff members to train for 120 hours before they were allowed to work with the lower level junkies in the rehab) it's just the volume of patients, you'll never have enough skilled and mentally strong staff to handle a large population of people with mental issues.
One thing I noticed in all my stays was this, facilities with patient populations under 100 and staff populations above 25 always did very well, any place with more than 100 patients was always terrible and it was because there just wasn't enough trained staff
I will admit I've been to some absolutely fucking horrific places (I was placed in a room with a old man who had alzheimers and thought I was his son who died in Iraq) patients were attacking each other, hooking up with each other it was horrific
@@nicholasbrown668 I guess it depends on state as well as type of facility. My aunt was placed in a state mental asylum (yes at the time of her stay the hospital was still called an asylum). My family friend was placed in a mental hospital that was for strictly mental health crisis like unaliving (I know but UA-cam) or wanting to hurt someone else. Another person I knew was sent to a similar facility in the state and was given too much tranquilizers (he was 12) and had to be life flighted to a hospital for sick people. Not to mention my own little stay at a state mental hospital (for when the aforementioned person hurt me) and I was on a ward with girls who constantly felt unsafe as many times it was a male orderly coming to check on us in the night as well as when we were getting ready, they also berated and yelled at you if you weren't getting better and if you had and eating disorder you were publicly humiliated. Watched a poor girl get cast into the common area and screamed at by an orderly until she drank ensure. I know this is just the anecdotes of my own life, but what I also know to be true is it is statistically more likely to be SA'd in a mental health crisis facility if you are a child or woman. An orderly can be assigned to a mental hospital with only a highschool diploma, where in a rehab facility for drugs you are required to be certified usually in some kind of addiction training. I'm not saying *all* staff members in mental hospitals are trash and I was thankful that at a time where I was vulnerable no one hurt me further, but statistics say I'm lucky and unfortunately so does my aunt..
Another wild thing is that doctors didn't start regularly washing their hands between procedures until the 1840s.
Just learn that?
More like 1890s
Ignaz Semmelweis was basically the one who made awareness about washing hands before performing medical procedure, in this case childbirth since it was common for doctors working at autopsy and never washed their hands before helping deliver a child. Ironically he was put at an asylum for alleged mental breakdown by his supervisor and then the death of childbirths increased again since they ignored Semmelweis’s washing hands procedure.
Duh because iodine
They literally rinsed in iodine. Better than water and soap.
When Regan got rid of federal funding for these facilities, they never stood a chance. I’ll never forget what happened to our small town, when the local asylum closed down. We went from having 0 homelessness and suddenly we were inundated with hundreds of mentally challenged people just thrown out on the streets with no plan on what to do with them. I will say, we eventually got our acts together and provided as many as we could with a place to stay. Many didn’t want anything to do with it. The craziest part of this story is right after this occurred, our town, which had never had a ‘Bigfoot’ sightings in its entire history. Then suddenly sightings were occurring every week within a 30 mile radius of the asylum. And no, I’m not insinuating that the asylum was hiding Bigfoot. One of the patients was known to have that disease where they grew hair all over their body. It’s sad knowing he just lived in the woods until one day, the sightings stopped. The news articles from the time are hilarious to read in regards to the sightings, not how the patients were treated and dismissed like garbage.
You dont think we see thrrough your little lies? Or should i say *big lies* ? This exactly what abig foot would say, smh
@@GhostofJamesMadison , lol 😂
Is this a real comment? Or a joke? The same thing happened in my town but without the Bigfoot thing.
Now all the crazies are on the street
Bring back asylums
I've literally hypothesized if the myth around Bigfoot possibly came from people who were shunned from society due to them having that condition where hair grew all over their bodies. It seems like a possibility especially back in the day with how people used to react to things they didn't understand.
I have a good family friend who was institutionalized in the state mental asylum back in the late 60s when abuse was still totally unchecked in any way. The did disgusting things to him. Burned him with cigarettes, smashed food under their shoes then forced him to eat it, locked him in a room with an aggressive sex addict for days knowing part of his psychosis was being super religious and basically made him fight off this woman feeling him up non consensually for days where he couldn't even sleep safely. I ended up touring there in the 90s with a class and they brought up the past of abuse and I specifically asked if those older employees were let go and he kind of looked nervous and said they went through "extensive retraining" and I gave him an evil eye and my teacher changed the subject really quick. So yeah especially if there are older staff at these places, I could never trust them.
It's a shame "Extensive retraining" isn't just shorthand for " Shot into the sun "
And I’m assuming he told u this. He was in a looney bin dude
Somebody was at one in Toledo, Ohio and he said this one patient would go around beating up patients. One of the patients fought him back, then the staff beat the crap out of him and sedated him about 5-6 times. He said he he saved a patient bc he slipped and cracked his head open and was bleeding out of his head everywhere. Then they let the patient who saved the other patient in the nurses station and fed him food from outside the hospital. Then he said he went to another one earlier in his life, there was this Russian patient in a wheelchair with his feet broken inwards, had a lazy eye from getting beaten by staff. He also said that in his room there was dried blood under his desk in his room and they'd push the wheelchair dude past his room everyday to scare him. Then one day they took the Russian dude to a shower and screamed at all the patients to get back to their rooms and all he heard was them beating the crap out of him.
@@TheNumbers97psychosis doesn’t mean the person is a fucking animal. use your brain and have some empathy, jesus christ.
@@TheNumbers97 and it wasn't a girl they locked him up with, of course, that's unheard of. :(
This still happens, my dad works at a mental hospital and they're so understaffed they don't stop patients from taking advantage of other patients
Sounds hot
@@jonstark7106found the weird guy
@@jonstark7106lmao bruh....
Well yeah Ofcourse they mentally unfit and elderly are still not being cared for and neglected and abused and used as insurance cash cows. I’ve worked in healthcare for over a decade myself. My father visits my brain dead sister three times a week because if you don’t the nurses neglect her more and she would probably be raped.
@@jonstark7106bro what
Unfortunately there is much malpractice within these facilities to this day. In my younger years I was mandated to stay at a psychiatric facility for a short period of time. During those few days I was over medicated to the point of sedation and mental unclarity and told by a NURSE that the abuse I was suffering under my mother was my fault for lacking faith and being a bad child. They kept us in the day room for almost the entire day where we received little therapeutic treatment outside of being overly medicated. Mental health facilities, from my experience, typically either traumatize a patient further which only makes their health deteriorate even further and requiring a longer stay, or in my case, it scares the patient into pretending to improve so they may get out as soon as possible.
Sounds about like my experience. I actually wanted help and talked to a school counselor. Had to go do an evaluation. Was put in and immediately after my first night there(I was literally admitted at night) they put me on 100mg of Wellbutrin. I was completely out of it for the entire time I was there. I was on cloud nine and having a good time. Then after the first month on the medication I was completely a zombie. 0/10 the patients and one nurse were the highlights.
Exactly the hospital didn't help with my mental illness it just made me pretend I was better so I could get out of there
You hit the nail on the head. Scares them into pretending to be normal. That's exactly what I did in the mental hospital
scared me into pretending to improve so i could get out asap, i was an instant angel especially after watching anyone who acted up get a team called in and 4-6 big dudes hold them down and give them a thorazine shot in the ass and they'd be out for 48-72 hrs and that was less than 10 yrs ago, i felt awful one kid younger than me self comitted because he was having auditory hallucinations.... literal worst place i've ever been forget the name but was in like westport, MA or some shit?
As someone who has worked extensively in mental health (inpatient, outpatient and everywhere in between), I'm terrified of going inpatient because I know exactly what goes on in there and the shit attitudes and beliefs that staff have both in front of and behind patient backs
watchiing this again made me remember when i was in the mental hospital in 2019 (for schizo affective disorder) i watched a guy having a seizure and the staff was watching him and talking as his head banged on the ground, i had to put a towel under his head and they got mad and locked me in my room. couple days later i watched a nurse or assistant push a girl into her room and lock the door right after the girl (17) asked for a pad or a tampon. the mental hospitals still do not employ based on the people, just qualifications. the doctor was a gucci wearing indian man who did not care about anything accept money meant he prescribed most of us tons of stuff we didn't need, i was on anti psychotics for weeks and all it did was make my hair fall out. be careful folks and try to never go to Freemont Mental Hospital in CA willingly
Holy shts dude in 2011 I was there . But luckily had good staff and good roommate. Gave me wrong meds though
Lmao the nurses are just tone deaf filipinos who think people have first world western problems that don’t matter
On a ward in the summer of 2020 at the HEIGHT of Covid. They stopped allowing visitors except for terminal patients. None of the safe wore masks, no sanitizer, custodian (yes, singular) only came once a week or so which caused the eating area to be just...gross, whole wall of four phones, but they insisted we all use ONE wireless handset. They said they were wiping it down after every use, but...no. They immediately took me off my antidepressant cold turkey. You don't need a medical degree to know that is bad. I am epileptic so every time they tried to put me on anti-psychotics, I would ask for the medication info, see one of or THE first side effects was "seizures" and refuse them. They managed to take me to court over Zoom within DAYS without telling me so I had no opportunity to find my own lawyer. It was mixed gendered which isn't always a "bad" thing, but it's the only place locally so there were people from prison in there. A guy almost snuck into my room the first night there. He nearly had the door completely shut before a nurse caught him. I don't like to assume, but I don't think he was there to tell me bedtime stories...I was grabbed by staff for leaning against a wall. I wasn't near anyone else, I wasn't talking or being loud, they just decided I wasn't allowed to do it and dragged me to the seg unit. I watched them TACKLE a little old lady who had wandered behind the nurse's station. She was easily in her 70s or 80s, very frail. Tackled. They took her to seg and the room with the bed with straps and walls so thick nobody could hear you yelling. They would deny us outside time. Really think about what a basic human need sunlight and fresh air is and how counterintuitive to healing mental illness that is. It was a completely enclosed courtyard area with no non-visible areas. Nobody could wander out, get lost, or get hurt. It was inhumane. They were closing that section that October so it became obvious the staff was just really leaning into their sadistic tendencies.
I still have flashbacks, I was neurotic for months- on the floor wrapped in a blanket rocking and crying.
It's not asylum-related, but on the topic of good old lobotomies, my mom was mistaken for a lobotomy patient when she was having me due to the papers getting mixed up, and the doctors gave my dad the most disgusted look while "going in slow" as to not scare who they thought was a pregnant lady with a lobotomy. They did end up finding out otherwise from my mother's confusion and explanation to them, but that likely means there was a woman in that same hospital with a lobotomy in the grandiose year of 2007!
Yes sadly lobotomy isn't forbidden nowadays, but I think they need the full and irrefutable consent of the patient, still really rare thk god
Hopefully the doctors at least wash their hands and apply numbing ointment nowadays lol
@@vaenkhar7236really?? I thought that it's illegal in every country! Last time it was done in my nordic country was in the early 60's.
@@ThebrightLight-in9zh yeah... Well not officially, but no one do that anymore since a looong time, it's unofficially illegal in a way, but I hope I'm wrong Im not sure of what I say, anyway oc if you ever see a professional (or anyone really) considering lobotomy you got an instant redflag
@@ThebrightLight-in9zh Did you even watch the video
“The nincompoop and Neanderthal section” oh my god I’m crying laughing it’s so terrible
Unfortunately, from experience, these things still occur to this day in mental hospitals.
My ex-partner had psychosis and it got so bad she had to go into a mental hospital, where the doctors were giving her medication that sedated her and made her worse, and the staff ended up abusing her to which I tried calling the police but they didnt have any jurisdiction in the hospital.
Yeah I’ve been there, twice. There is some sanitation and better regulations to a degree but it’s basically the same thing… people would be surprised how chaotic they are. The only treatment is drugs. There is no therapy.
@EmmaGodLovesTruth95 it's not just chaotic, they are extremely neglectful. When I was there and was entering the through the gate, a schizophrenic guy was having a full psychotic episode where I was working with the people in the sky and he was telling me he wanted to escape, he reaked like hell and clearly was extremely malnurished. Now keep in mind he was unsupervised and the gates aren't monitored, so he could/ might have escaped while under a full-blown psychotic episode. I mean, I saw a lot of horrific shit while inside the mental hospital, but people just assume those kinds of conditions died of in the 70s-80s but no it still happens to this day
Agree with all these comments. Been to 2 different ones and they were both terrible in there own flavors. Shit gets really messed up.
@@EmmaGodLovesTruth95we just made them like color pictures for days while we babysat them and basically made sure they didn’t hurt themselves pretty much. Seemed extremely boring
I'm really sorry that happened. If you haven't already, you can report the hospital anonymously to the FBI on their website or to the media.
Abuses still happen today all over the mental health care industry. I can only imagine what they'll say about us in 100 years.
Some of the scariest stuff will be when history gets revised or emphasized for idealogical gain. Some psychologists of those pre-80’s eras actually saw the inquisition of witchcraft as a form of pre-psychiatry and venerated and emulated the practices. I believe Thomas Zsaz has a good book on it called the Manufacture of Madness.
Not just the mental health care insurer but especially the HEALTH and CARE industry..
Whether that be in a "normal" hospital or in a home for the elderly…
Everywhere where people are vulnerable there will be people to take advantage of it. It’s very sad… but especially with mentally ill and handicapped people you have the problem of the social stigma surrounding them wich makes the whole awareness and empathy thing even harder because people just don’t "care" as much as they do for a grandma that everyone has and loves..
There is a “secret” cemetery behind the defunct Marlboro Psychiatric Hospital in NJ. It’s the burial place for ppl who died there and were unclaimed by family or were John/Jane Does. My friends and I visited after reading about it in the old “Weird New Jersey” magazines (which I think Papa Meat would absolutely ADORE btw).
And there are over 900 graves with only a # on them. In the front of the cemetery is a cement structure that lists the names that are buried under each #. And there is an Elvis Priestly and Marilyn Monroe listed because they never knew the name of the patient who died and the patient believed they were Elvis or Marilyn. Quite sad. Not even their real name is remembered.
a couple of classmates of mine mentioned sneaking in and finding nothing but mannequins there. neet stuff. nowadays its abandoned.
damn. even when you live in jersey, you learn new, terrible, things.
@@cittleskum They must have gotten inside the actual Asylum. Thats really cool! When we went it was still in commission (although only like 10% of the building was in use) so we weren’t able to get inside. Tell them to back into the woods/fields behind it and they can find the cemetery!
@@werewolfclaws theres nothing more evil in this state than the amount of tolls
As someone who has worked in psych wards, they are still called looney bins by staff
Should take a look into "troubled youth" facilities. That part where you come across the fact that people paid to have others set in these facilities is too true. We do it these days with youth facilities that get paid per-client, meaning per-kid, and the worse the kid the more money they charge. It's a disturbing fact of current day, really.
I spent the years 13 to 19 in those places. I was constantly abused and have permanent damage to my body from it. Some were less abusive than others but they were all bad and dehumanizing.
@@RoyalFortune I've seen videos on them that obviously can't go fully in depth due to youtube policies and I just want to say I'm sorry you were subjected to that. I'm glad you survived and I hope life has treated you well since
They have those here in Aus.
There’s a lot that’s not talked about in the troubled youth industry I could go on for days talking about what it’s like and how manipulative they are n I’ve only been to one n manipulated my way out
Been through one of those. Do not recommend lol still have nightmares to this day over a decade later
from experience, i went for the first couple times in 2018 as a 15 year old, and they just used medication to sedate me rather than actually diagnose me with the correct things. wasnt until 5 years later and another hospital stay as an adult that i could even actually get my diagnosis’s due to my age. the adolescent mental health facilities are incredibly traumatic and only worsened my condition.
Yes I absolutely agree. I was a teen when I was sent to one back in 2010. No contact with my family for weeks, couldn't go anywhere by myself, heavily sedated, etc. I'm afraid that if I stop/wean off of my meds, my brain won't be able to function. I was misdiagnosed up until this year (30 F). I still have ptsd from it.
I was Baker Acted in Florida around 2008, basically a Florida law that allows temporary institutionalization for potentially dangerous individuals. Gotta say, was not the worst experience. It was definitely strange to be removed from my life and shoved into a floor in a hospital with other mental patients but it was nowhere near as grizzly as these "treatments". There were group therapy sessions, free time, and visitation hours every day IIRC where I got to see my family. No heavy medication, basically just continued the anti-depressants I was on but I think they upped the dosage. The socks were also super comfy. The only time anyone was restrained and sedated was one night when the 6'3" 300 lbs heavily autistic guy started throwing a violent tantrum.
Overall coulda been better but also coulda been so much worse and being removed from my normal life to be able to just process my emotions was exactly what I needed at the time. I could have maybe done that with a short family vacation or something but when you're threatening your own life, most loved ones don't want to allow you the freedom to do so and it's entirely possible that I would have followed through if given the leeway. There's a lot wrong with the mental health systems in the world but these institutions do have their place if they're done right. It's just a tragedy that they're so often not.
@@thejotunn4417I had this same thing happen to me. I ended up in a treatment facility back in 2017. It was almost the same as you described. Best thing that could have happened to me.
i had a great experience in the adolecense mentql facilities. In my experience the staff really wanted to help but the patients were very often/clearly not caring or accepting of their help. and to stack ontop the only people who got sedated or given "booty juice" were those who refused to act well for example: this patient had a schizophrenic breakdown and there was quite literally NOTHING they could've done to help or even calm em down. they tried giving water and they proceed to say that theres poison in the water.
Well you seem fine now so it must have worked.
Fun fact in the UK we also have a place called Letchworth that had a psychiatric hospital. It's now been converted into a Gym / Spa and the underground crematorium area is now a pool and steam room! Swimming down there is creepy af
Sounds creepy. Would you consider videoing it the next time you go down there?
@@celty5858 it’s my gym homie I’m there everyday, but absolutely
@@jollof-raids you got that video my good man?
Yeah, not swimming there.
Fun
Insane Asylums, a fancy, more friendly term for what's essentially an Extermination Camp.
The goal is different though
Is it though?@@kathrineici9811
Way more sadistic
I had a friend I met while in a mental health hospital. He was in for war-caused ptsd and the doctors told him the best current method of treatment after medication would be electroshock therapy. After about 3 rounds my friend started losing his short term memory and became extremely irritable and easily frustrated. There was no positive change, and it lasted for the few years following (I lost contact with him after this time so I’m not sure if he ever got better). This was 2017. Mental health care needs help.
A family member of mine suffered from hard drug use and was sent to a psyche ward. A week into her stay her mom finally got in touch her with and the first thing she says is “I haven’t spoken to a doctor I think. I’m covered in my own vomit.” She was pulled out of there pretty quick but I can’t imagine sitting in your own filth and not being allowed to move.
I've been inside five different mental hospitals in the last 10 years and they're all basically the same. Psychiatrists spend 30 seconds a day every few days with you (every day if you're really lucky) and give you whatever round of meds they see fit. Staff is often overworked and take out their frustrations on you. No matter which one I've been in, they're all the same. They don't care about making you well. They care about giving you prescriptions (which the doctors make money from) and sending you out.
The last one I was in was definitely the worst. It was filthy and I STILL, over 3 years later, have a recurring athletes foot that is unable to be cured with treatment, that I got from their disgusting showers because they wouldn't give me shower shoes.
Kansas'? Looking for a friend
Have few details and I'ma try till I die to find her lol
Yeah, pharmaceutical companies and doctors definitely make a lot of money off medicating people (and unfortunately, it's sometimes to overmedicating levels). Prescriptions are great for some people if they benefit from them and make it easier to work with their mental health, but here's to them hopefully working on other things that can help people who aren't able to function well with prescription medication.
There's a lot that mental health industries still need to improve on...
In the 90’s, my nan was put into a psych ward after being caught 3 times trying to jump off a bridge. She had severe depression and got electroshocks as “treatment”. These electric shock treatments caused her to get early onset dementia at 59.
This always scares me, not only am I a woman but I have epilepsy, I would have been so screwed in this scenario.
Me as an autist too, i say too much whats on my mind in a way that comes over as rude to normal social beings. Last time police pulled me over they started assaulting me because of it and they treated me like a criminal while i only just came back from walking my dog with no ill intend.
Right! Im an autistic woman who in her 20s started having seizures. I would have absolutely been in an asylum.
oh god same, i have grand mal and im autistic and severely anxious with ptsd, i would be first in mf line i just know it.
As someone whos been in them, back in 2021 when i was in a mental institution there was a patient who was abandoned by his family there and he had SCARS and tape from electroshock therapy, i want people to know that this still happen, people just paying mental institutions to get rid of troubled family.
Send the facility a silly pipe boom boom toy in the mail :)
@@Twili8697 i'm in lol! Fuck the people working there !
I've studied the psychology of roundhouse prisons, and they actually thought they were helping people, its scarier than any horror film ever made. They believed the detained would train each other to be better people.
Good word, yes, The more you know.@@hyperadapted
The icepick lobotomy system being developed after WWII makes it more terrifying, because that could mean a ton of Greatest Generation vets either becoming institutionalized vegetables after returning home and seeking treatment for PTSD. Or a bunch of vets suppressing their PTSD and/or mental health struggles out of fears/distrust of asylums, so that they can reproduce entire lineages of generational traumas that probably still affect a lot of people to this day... 0_0
Now this may come off weird but if I didnt have modern medicine and I wasnt stuck in my own head after and actually got some relief I can think of times where I would have asked to have it done. Makes me wonder if there were any documentaries done on this topic specifically about vets.
I worked at a nursing home in Germany, and let me tell you, what was going on in these mental asylums is still practice, except the lobotomy. People get bound to beds. People are FORCED to go to bed at certain times. I saw people get beaten, verbally abused, screamed at. Staff using benzos to get high. Not just dementia ridden patients were abused, but lucid normal old people too. It's literally a authoritarian prison for old people, and the staff and nurses behave like literal Nazis there. I have tons of horror stories to tell. I quit after a year. When I told the manager, he brushed it off. He was in on it, he and the nurses. After I told him, everyone bullied me and I hat to take on the worst jobs. Tight budget, can't have wasted time, old people pay the price. It was horrific. And that was just a few years ago. Now imagine the horrors we don't know about that happened in these asylums. Sickening.
Totally an old friend of mine had a meth problem and tried to kill himself and was sent to a place like that, he was strapped down to a bed for ages and poked with a bunch of needles not knowing what they were giving him.
They operate the same in Australia to this day.
and here you are on youtube crying about it. Be a man
Expose them!
@@CinemaPats To who? Apparently the managers, and probably the government, don't really care in Germany if this account is anything to go by.
I have 2 kids that would’ve been institutionalized back in the day (autism). They both have fulfilling lives, thank god things improved…
You actually missed one of the key features of the whole story: it was usually family that brought people to the sanatorium and dropped them off for the rest of their lives. Children, wives, brothers and sisters, these people were knowingly brought to these places to be tortured for the rest of their lives in for profit sanitoriums, and the families paid the bills to do the torture. For some reason that makes it even worse imo.
But why? Why pay money for your family member to be tortured?
@@inlinechrisit's a fucking terrible thing to face but people have and will always find ways to get rid of "undesirable" people that are making their life - or simply getting what they want - harder for them, one's own family being no exception
Maybe the families didn't know how bad it actually was. These things coming to light are the reason for the evolution in the practice.
I feel like I would have been one of those. I was adhd and had a terrible temper. Thank god for modern medicine!
Asylums and lobotomies have always been my worst fear, even as a little kid who shouldn't have even known such things existed.
TW: Mental illness and self harm
I just felt motivated to share my story with this kind of stuff in modern day "asylums". It's a long read, but its truly my experience with how we deal with mental illness today
When I was 5150'd, I was thrown in a room at my university's local hospital for a night. It was a blank room with a ledge jutting from the wall. No bedding or anything. I slept with my head on my knees and was woken up by two EMTs with a gurney.
Nobody really asked me how I was feeling or anything. Ever since i left the custody of the police, nobody seemed to care. It was just another day at work for them.
The EMTs strapped me in for "safety" and took me through the hospital to their ambulance. I still remember the way other people looked at me with eyes of pity and fear. Once in the ambulance we drove for about an hour an a half and the entire time I had no idea where I was or where I was going. I remember equating myself to a mailed package- unaware of where my end destination was and what was to become of me after.
When the vehicle stopped, I was taken out and rolled up to a building that resembled a preschool from the outside. Once inside I was unstrapped and led into another room that seemed to be the place they might meet families and offer information on services.
I still had my cellphone on me and I saw I had numerous missed calls from my family. I called them back, and they asked where I was. The police had notified them that I was 5150'd but hadn't let them know where I was taken. I wanted to amswer them but even I didn't have that answer.
I looked through the posters on the wall, looked out the window, looked through pamphlets, just trying to find a name for my family. I finally found the name on a piece of trash in the wastebin. I told them the name, and as soon as I did the door was thrown forcefully open. A male nurse charged at me, ripped the phone from my hands, and scolded me like a child. "No! No! You're not supposed to have that!" Then he left the room and slammed the door. It was at this time I felt truly alone and disconnected from the world.
I was there for hours until eventually a woman in office attire came in with a folder and a huge stack of paperwork. I don't really remember this "onboarding" process because of the literal state of shock I was in. I signed papers and soon after I was taken out the room, amd through a set of security doors where you have to be buzzed in.
I was taken into yet another blank room, made to undress fully, and had pictures taken of my naked body. Though uncomfortable, I can see why this is done. To show I had no signs of abuse prior to entering and whatnot. I didn't really care though. I was a husk of myself.
They gave me a gown and my shoes without laces to put on. I was led to my room and left there. I sat on the bed, face buried in my knees. The male nurse who snatched my phone away earlier in the day came in and offered me a cup with pills. I refused saying I didn't want them and that I just needed time. They told me either I take the pills or someone is going to come in, pin me down, and sedate me while they get the pills in me using other means. I took the pills and went to bed.
Periodically throughout the night, the same male nurse I grew to despise would throw open the door, scribble notes on his little noteboard, and then slam the door. It was terrible trying to rest up with this happening.
When I finally did wake up for the day, I was disappointed to find that I was not in a nightmare. I stayed in bed for the whole day. At some point they did introduce me to my new roommate, a meth and cocaine addict who's motto in life was "YOLO".
That was something that suprised me. I figured I would be put with other depressed people who were going through the same thing, but no. It turns out that California sees mental health and substance addiction as similar enough that we could be locked in together. This made me feel even more alienated.
My family visited later that evening, having made the 6 hour drive from my hometown to where I was. They took one look at me and burst into tears. I looked disheveled and hollow. My mom told me that she looked at the reviews of the place and they had terrible repute with the community. Abuse and people being locked in for longer than they were initially told they would be. I was terrified at this point but my parents said they spoke with the lead nurse and she told them that as long as I attend group therapy and try to make an attempt at getting better I could be out by my third mandatory day. But they couldn't stay longer than that third day because they didn't have the money to stay in a hotel that long and would need to head home. They told me they loved me and that they knew I could pull through.
This one singular conversation made me 180 and motivated me to get out of there. I participated in ever group therapy, took every drug they put in my face no matter how shitty they made me feel, and tried to show how ready i was to improve over the next two days.
On the final day, I had to be evaluated by the licensed psychiatrist. She only stopped by twice a week and I had to be cleared by her in order to leave. She was a stoic middle age woman with an Arabic sounding name. She didn't greet me at all and sat there filling out her forms. After a few minutes of dry silence she asked me in a monotone voice all the generic questions I had been asked so many times over the weekend. "Do you feel depressed? Do you hear voices? Do you want to hurt yourself? Others?" etc. She finally asked me if I had been attending the sessions. I told her about my experience, about how group therapy made me realize that I'm not alone in my suffering and how there is always help out there. I explained how i really did not have any negative emotions about myself and didnt want to hurt myself. I explained the support from my parents and how even after I was released I would continue to have that support.
The air grew silent again except for the sound of her pen on paper. After a minute she said, "Ok. Let the next one in on your way out."
I was mortified. It was as if she wasn't even listening. I asked her if I would be able to go home with my family that evening as they were going to have to leave and this would be my only opportunity to go home for a month. She said no. My heart sank. I was never getting out of there.
I met with my parents about an hour later and gave them the news. They were sad and angry. My step dad called in the head nurse who was super helpful through this whole experience and asked her if there was any way I could go free. The head nurse agreed that the psychiatrist was an evil woman who only cared about making money. The head nurse said that she had only had this job for a year and hated that old lady because she wasn't in it to help people. The psychiatrist would deliberately keep people so that the rooms stayed full and she got paid more. That's why the place had terrible reviews.
The head nurse saw how saddened we all were and offered a risky suggestion. Since the psychiatrist was only in the psych ward for two days out of the week, it is understood that there would be a lack of information on her part. The nurses however, were there for entire shifts. Taking notes of our progress and personally seeing us grow better. She suggested that her and her other nurses go above the psychiatrist to the directors. They would argue my case and if signed off my the big wigs, I could go home that night. The only risk to this would be that if it didnt get signed off, my 5150 would be reinstated and id have to be there for 3 more days. My parents would have to leave however, and I would find myself stuck for at least another month. We decided to take the risk and it worked. Aparently the psychiatrist tried to bar my release and call me a danger to society and a bunch of other BS. I hope she loses that job.
I feel like as a whole, this experience was both detrimental and beneficial. I genuinely saw how awful things could be based on some of the other patients, but I also got to see how my struggles are not truly unique to me. There are other people who I can relate with and something about not being alone in your troubles really helps me feel like I'm not alone.
I will also NEVER do anything to get locked up again. The feeling of having all autonomy stripped of you in addition to being treated like you're something other than normal is something I never want to experience again. I also want to give a big middle finger to all of those in the healthcare system who set aside humanity for a paycheck. You all are truly the scum of the earth.
Thank you for reading!
Damn man im so sorry you had to go through that I've been to a psych word twice both horrible experiences I wish I could remember what happened but I only have nightmares of it due to my PTSD I have bad memory loss but at the same time I don't it's very confusing but yes fuck those people who chase the paper instead of helping the patients your an amazing strong person for I do not know you personally I just know that your a very kindhearted soul, to withstand there fucked up system and the things you went through you made it out homie not everyday is going to be easy but we just have to stay army strong
To all mental peeps hang in there your life is so precious we are what makes this world beautiful
With love
@@chris2kai12 in a weird roundabout way it did. I had an awful experience and that sobered me up enough to make a change in my life so that I never had to go back. Ive experienced the merits of having been institutionalized, but I also saw a lot that, in my opinion, needs reformation- primarily the holding of staff accounts for their behavior and treatment of those inside.
@@tylerman9189don’t listen to this asshole, you’re absolutely right. i’m so so sorry that you had to go through this. rehab for any reason can be important and helpful, but what you experienced was abusive and cruel. i hope you’re heading bro
@@lindseyeganrawding6363 I’m not an asshole
You are so brave and strong and I’m SO VERY PROUD OF YOU! I might be a random stranger in your reply on a video by papa meat, but I know the pain and what it’s like!
I’m so glad you can talk about it and not bottle it up cause doing the latter is such poison!
I started “elf sharming” (if ya know) in middle school cause I was bullied to the extent that it wasn’t borderline but real emotional and mental Ab***. It all came to a point that I almost went through with my plan at school and the only reason I stopped was when my teachers stopped chasing me… next day I would meet my first therapist and bing bang boom!- I got sent to a facility that only gave me attachment/trust issues along with toxic coping skills. That’s ten years ago and now a lot of my old scars have healed and I’m channeling my pain into animations.
Don’t stop sharing your story cause if we all keep sharing our stories of these painful dark mental moments of our past then our soft voices pick up and boom loudly! 🩵👏🪿
I am someone who works with asylum survivors(went into when they were children), they live with me and the stories they tell are insane! It is so sad oh my lord
Something that scares is me is I probably would have ended up in one of these places if I existed in those times. I'm so glad I'm "mentally ill" in this day and age and not back when experimentation and lobotomies were considered acceptable.
So real
Now we have furries running around. Take me back
@@habibishapurlol some mental issues cannot be tolerated I agree
@@habibishapur i've never seen a fursuit in person. if there are furries running around, they're doing it on the DL
I’d have been put away for mental illness and epilepsy. Glad I just have to take medication and go to therapy.
Sucker Punch is a must watch for asylum movies.
Not horror. Just disturbing and unique.
Huge agree amazing movie
I’m very happy with the consistency that papa is giving us videos lately
Papa mentioned he was going to focus on projects that bring him joy. And the fact we are enjoying it too makes this a double win. Much love for papa
Agreed. Even the topics he's covering are interesting. And props to the editors. The visuals mixed with Papa Meat's vocal performance of each dark joke is extremely refreshing.
Is Papa woke? I'm new to the channel and the comments are really cringy
@@n4ughty_knight I can almost guarantee that if you go to his animation channel Meatcanyon you'll better understand the Papa Meat community
@@n4ughty_knight thats just the commenters, people have differing worldviews ig, but the guy in the video seems pretty impartial beyond the obviously true "neglect = bad" opinion.
I worked in group homes during Covid for adults with severe mental disorders. MOST of my clients came from the local asylum and practically grew up in there. The stories I would hear firsthand and the scars were terrifying. We had to do a lot of training and education about this history with staff because of how brutal and damaging asylums were to our clients. I think it’s great you made a video on this! The whole history of how societies treated mental orders is terrible and even worse if you go further back before asylums were common.
not much has changed. being sent to grippy sock jail in modern time is still a nightmare prison in most cases and a lot of people come out with more trauma added to what they already have.
Probably bc there's nurse's running around on thier phones vaping like in hospitals it's rare to find people who really care and aren't just in it bc thier mom was
From my experiences they were certainly bad, definitely had me worse off while I'd be in, but compared to how it used to be id say I went through a couple walks in the park. A lot has changed, but not enough yet.
“Grippy sock jail”
Absolute perfection
You truly are a loony if you think present day is anywhere near as bad 😂
It's definitely much better now, but yeah, still terrible
You’d probably be alarmed to find out most people suffering from depression are also kept in the same facility as people with severe schizophrenia if they’re hospitalized.
It’s 2024 and there are still people struggling to find a reason to live sharing a room with people who are trying to beat the demons out of their head on a cinder block wall.
wards haven't gotten much better. i was traumatized my last stay and never wanna go back. they treated us like animals and i'd have way more access to things in prison, like a bed, a pillow, better food. yes that bad. i almost really lost it but i wantwd to go home. the nurses were verbally abusive and refused meds. it smelled like shít. i have ocd bad and it all triggered me. so packed no beds were left and we were locked in a room together. a lot of tension. juiced people up for petty reasons or having legit concerns. i was there 10 mins and a schizo tried to attack me. so much more. the place has a horrific rating and reviews. the nurses told us if we tried to call the police or sue, they wouldnt believe us bc we're crazy 🤦♂️ so much happened. not all wards are bad but that one ruined it for me. i panic in any medical setting now. i fear they'd either trying to kill me or send me back.
Sorry you had to go through that, friend. I hope life becomes easier for you with time.
As a constant patient in psych wards, being under the care of unhinged nurses is really scary.
They perform electro convulsive therapy down the hall in house & wheel the patients to the TV room to recover.
Ive watched a lot of those patients be taunted by staff when they are alone.
One absolutely psycho nurse I will never forget, a fat woman named Cecily who wore a snoopy shirt & ran games at night, she was the scariest nurse I've ever encountered.
The male staff are pretty good, it just seems to be the female staff that are on a power trip & treat you terribly.
You can complain but it goes no where as it your word against theirs.
I should also add that if you're an involuntary patient & you're under the care of any random psychiatrist, you can absolutely have treatments without your consent.
By far ect is the worst to have forced on a patient.
"The male staff are pretty good, it just seems to be the female staff that are on a power trip & treat you terribly."
its a severe issue in foster homes too
I've heard that there is a lot of school bullies who grew up to become nurses .
Damn maybe the nurses should wear body cams then
@@oogaboogabe3464 I like this idea very much.
I’ve been admitted multiple times in my life, but my favorite time was in September in the glorious year of 2020. There was this guy in there that had been there since the end of 2019. He was incredibly sweet and kind so I talked to him a lot. While talking to him I said something on the lines of “yeah the world is falling apart out there… you know?” And he was like “I actually don’t know, I’ve been in here before it all started.” So I pretty much had explain the whole Cobid situation to him but in a way that didn’t make it sound like a zombie movie. I hope he is well and is surrounded by people that can help him heal.
"my favorite time" wtf
@n4ughty_knight I'm sure he had worse days, good memories are better than bad ones.
@@n4ughty_knight you gotta see the bright side of shitty situations. My favorite time was the last time I was there because I got the help I needed. The worse time I went was when I was 13 and the nurses put me in a dark room and said “if you keep crying you’ll stay here longer.” So yeah…
I was in one in late 2021. Became really good friends with this lady i thought was named loli. Genuinely saw her as a mother figure, better than that of my own mother. Talked every single day numerous hours while walking watching movies working out or playing game, got really close with this lady.
Then i get out and about 8 months later see her face on a youtube thumbnail and realize her name isn’t loli it was lori and she killed her two youngest kids as well as her ex husband and a bunch of other shit. Then found out there was a Netflix documentary on her and really realized what she would tell me about her beliefs were more real to her than I initially believed.
She is serving life in prison.
Your channel has actually helped me out of depression, as well as your animations reigniting my art drive, I don't expect a response, but I want you to know just in case you need another reason to be amazed of the content you put out to this world lol doubt you need it. You're amazing. Stay amazing, and thank you.
i had something like 11 sessions of electroconvulsive therapy a few years ago, youre right, the only reason it “works” is because it keeps you so zombied out you cant hurt yourself. its exhausting and my memory is still wrecked from it. shit should def be illegal.
and one of the wards ive stayed at had gnarly bedbugs, but staff didnt believe it even looking at all the bites, i literally had to bring a bug to the nurses station and tell them i wasnt just psychotic and making sores on myself
I did not even know it still existed. I hope you are doing well now, take care.
My doc keeps recommending it so it’s def still going strong. He told me that celebrities do it to alleviate them of their quandaries on short notice which I can definitely believe. People are crazy, especially those that see the light at the end of the tunnel.
@@antroboos5038 i didnt even recognize some of my belongings after a while, i was asking my mom who had been in my room, and after i stopped i tried to commit suicide like a week later and ended up in a psychotic episode, definitely be careful, and good luck bruv
10:25 😅😅😂😂
I can’t with papameat
The nameless graves... they couldnt even give them some humanity in death god damn.
Staring to believe psychos in power think empathy is a mental disorder
I live right beside an old asylum in Athens, OH. It’s called “The Ridges”. It was open from 1874 to 1993. There is a stain from a woman’s corpse on the floor in the tall tower of building 20. She went missing and when they found her, she was naked, arms crossed over her chest, her clothes folded neatly on a chair. Gives me the wiggins.
I been wanting to come down there and explore it. I live in Ohio and went to the abandoned hospital in Warren, have yet to go to Molly stark or the ridges
@@sleepyproduction7166 It’s definitely worth it, but I’ll let you know, they don’t offer tours frequently of the abandoned sections. Typically Halloween time only. Go figure lol. Still, you can walk the grounds pretty freely as long as you don’t try to break in.
@@sleepyproduction7166😊😢😮
Oh damn I live near there. Wasn't expecting to see someone bring it up here lol
Your sound fxs are so spot on. I watch this channel just to hear the great vocal and sound fx.
As someone who has stayed in a mental hospital before, I'm just thankful that our understanding of mental health has changed so much. We still have such a long way to go, and I can't speak for anyone else's experiences, but the nurses I had were all kind and wanting to understand!!
The ones at the places i stayed would inject people with antipsychotics and sedatives if they talked back or were loud. Some of the places around today are horrific. I spent weeks on end waking up every night to kids as young as twelve screaming while nurses held them down and injected them with shit that fried their brains. Ive never met anyone who is better after a hospitalization
I was also in a mental hospital when I was a teen. I felt imprisoned with no contact from my family for weeks. It was extremely difficult and they put me on so many meds that I now have a fear that my brain can't properly function as an adult without them. I mean I get it I was suicidal, but I was practically a child and has been embedded in my mind ever since.
@@ashleylucas6627 Always hit and miss with services like that, also depends on the country and/or where you live in that country. I know someone who was sectioned and they were shit every single time. A lot of the people there used to laugh about the patients. Many didn't seem to care. Among many other things. They shut that part of the hospital about ten years or so ago. Now there isn't anywhere other than imprisoning them lol.. In general the mental health service around where I lived didn't care. A friend kept trying to kill themselves because a voice told them too. She went to prison once for disturbing the peace because they were going to jump of a bridge. Another time a woman turned up, stayed for a few hours, said she had to go and write up notes at home. She couldn't have given less of a fuck. Willing to leave her at home with me even though she was desperate to go and jump of a building. You can only do so much as an untrained person but these "trained professionals" were fucking useless. Getting paid for doing nothing.
@@ashleylucas6627I’m really sorry that happened ❤
@@ashleylucas6627 Its frustrating that you had to have an experience like that... I've mentioned in another comment thread that its pretty messed up how much of a gamble mental health is in, even in 2024. Some places are amazing. Some places are boring and don't do anything. some of them are terrfying and abusive. It really shouldn't be this way. And sadly, I think we've slipped backwards in the last few years, especially in the outpatient setting. Therapy and medication managment have only become harder to get-at least in the US-as more and more providers drop insurances, move to out of pocket only, and become commercialized telehealth platforms.
Telehealth isn't bad-more people can get it, and easier, although I personally think it lacks some serious Patient - Provider relationship development. Appointments are way shorter now. You aren't always guaranteed your previous therapist. Medication management is now completely depersonalized in some settings, literally becoming "tell me what you wanna be on, and I'll write the script" in ten minute appointments. Its kind of worrisome.
11:30 thats wild, imagine going to the doctor for cancer treatment and after a month he is like well your cancer is worse and you also have polio, goodbye
I explored an abandoned Insane Asylum in a town well known for it's crazy water. Tons of old medical documents, room full of biohazard bags (never checked if any had stuff, but never felt a needle go through my shoe so we good), and in what was presumably the cafeteria or maybe visitor meeting room was a year book from like the 80's. We saw some operating rooms, as they still had the ceiling mounted lights/instruments. We also found the isolation rooms (crazy cages) and me being a moron told my friends to close the door and snap a pic so it looked like I was trapped, the door either locked or broke as it wouldn't budge (it was a sliding door) luckily my friend who lifted basically ran face first into the door until it was basically splinters lol, man 2016 was a different vibe.
Asylums are definitely still abusive AF.
People are constantly forced to take meds they don't need because the 'hospitals' get kickbacks on any drugs they prescribe. GF was tricked into one after describing suicidal thoughts to her therapist when she was 18. Therapist took advantage of her naiveite about the laws and said that she would court order her for longer than needed if she didnt which scared her into checking into it. Then they kept shoving antidepressants that she has tried before and her previous doctors wrote ON RECORD that they did not work and increased depressive behaviors. Threatening her extended stay if she did not submit to them.
100%. Been in a few wards myself for suicide attempts. Specifically adolescent units. If you don’t do as you’re told they make you stay longer. This one time, a girl had a panic attack (it was her first time in a ward and she was scared) so they did what we call “booty juice” which is legit a tranquilizer that makes you like a zombie for like 24 hours. Never been booty juiced but god it’s scary to watch. Even the violent kids didn’t deserve that shit
American Horror Story has a season called "Asylum". It's honestly their best season and really goes into detail about how prison-like these Asylums could get and how 'care' was thrown out the window
It was woke tho
the only season that was even somewhat watchable was the first season..everything after that was just edgy bullshit
@@n4ughty_knight lol what
@@mikec5400 Asylum and Cult were my favorite
@@JustDonny You read me. It was woke.
Medicine and psychology have come such a long way in such a short amount of time, they used to use lobotomies just to treat chronic headaches and shit.
Thankfully modern times we don't use a single procedure or theory to treat as many disorders as possible. No way that would happen now.
We have learned from the past and will not repeat it.
We will not use patients or those with issues as guinea pigs. We will only prescribe things after years of studies including long term studies and observations.
We will not force or even encourage unnecessary procedures.
And we will not do these treatments on children.
Hunter, your "How ya doin', how ya doin'?" at the beginning of every video cheer me up immensely for some reason. Even if the rest of the video usually leaves me disturbed or disgusted.
He’s making sure we’re happy before taking it all away :D
I got framed as a child at 12 and stayed in a mental hospital with no contact with my family for the next 4 years. It basically reset my brain because of the trauma and I can barely remember anything before then
For what if you don't mind sharing?
@@redact3d51I can’t imagine anyone being framed for anything other than murder but maybe I’m wrong
There's a old doc called Titicut Follies where they had free reign to film & interview in an institution. It caused a stir afterwards. Like most things, people could ignore the brutality of being in such a place until they actually saw it. Creepy doctors, force feedings & people protesting in vain they didn't need to be there. There's not a lot of great solutions to people who are dangerous or have brains that can't be fixed, but that documentary still was an eye-opener to many people.
That one guy who very eloquently explained how his medication wasn't working at all, and that he might've been diagnosed with the wrong illness, how he's been in that institution for way too long already and wanted to be put into another facility.. And they just dismissed everything he said, without even having any counter argument except "you're mentally ill, therefore you make no sense and I won't take you seriously" made me so sad
As someone who has a seizure a couple days ago, I'm really happy these facilities aren't a thing anymore and modern medication is. Now i just have to remember to take my meds
Man I used to work in an asylum from a staffing agency in Kentucky and it was insane. No pun intended most of the staff were just as nuts.
Charles Darwin "I killed god" that shit had me dying
16:08 I actually dealt with something like this with my previous psychiatrist (i was in the hospital, it was for observation, it turned out that i have Autism Spectrum Disorder) - I had to visit her throughout the High school - and during the last visit, around 7 years ago, just moments after my mom went out from that psychiatrist's room (to finish some paper work at the reception)
the psychiatrist told me that "she would be watching my every move, and if she discovers that i made some bad decision, she would do everything to make sure that i would end up back in the psychiatric hospital and if this would happen, the next time, she would make sure that I would never leave it"
Of course, her demeanor changed, when my mom returned to the room, and she was like "oh, we were just saying goodbye and talked about few important things"
When it comes to the hospital - welp, to explain all the bad stuff and outright abuse that happened there to both me and other patients, the one comment would not be enough, I would need book to describe, what happened.
But At least, i could say that when it comes to groups in hospital, there were three groups:
1. Communicative (people with verbal autism/asd, like me, some mood disorders, People with anorexia/bulimia etc.)
2. the ones that needed care from other people, (some people with non-verbal autism, some severe disorders that made them act either aggressive towards environment and themselves, or who had other problems that prevented them to doing basic things by themselves)
and the
3. Criminals, for whom "there wasn't that much room in regular prison" - I'm not joking, I was talking with some new people, who came there, and few of them did not even have any problems or something, just that the police or someone did not have enough space for them in prison, so they kept, idk, people who beat their mothers, thiefs and maybe even worse people, next to patients that really needed care.
(and they knew about bad stuff happening there, so often if someone was too talkative and could say something to parents, they gave him some medication that caused them to feel something like depersonalization - I know this, because i was one of these people, and even my parents said that back then, when they were meeting with me every day, i looked like zombie, and from my POV, it looked like i was watching a "movie" of my life)
That’s wild 😢
How do they not realise that putting people who are physically abusive with people who are at their most vulnerable is a bad idea?
@@ethanstyant9704 " who are at their most vulnerable is a bad idea?"
For context, mental healthcare and education in that topic, in Poland, are abysmal...
to give one example - although in most, if not all countries, we have currently ICD-11, and Asperger Syndrome doesn't longer exist as a "separate" thing from autism spectrum disorder... The doctors are still, to this day, are diagnosing "asperger syndrome", even when having icd-11
Another thing - It doesn't matter, if the politicians are progressive or conservative - they still don't know anything about reforming mental health...
There is a foundation in poland, called Unaweza, created by a celebrity traveller, Martyna Wojciechowska - She did some tests in schools, to check "mental health" of students - And actual experts criticized her that the test had very bad methodology and was faulty - and she went on facebook and started crying that "she receives hate from experts!! how dare they, they don't think of the children" (neither she, but i digress)
But if this is was where it ends, it would not be that bad - The polish left, actually wants to do mental health reforms in schools, and their basis is that faulty test...
In other words: In poland, people and gov listen to celebrities and influencers, instead to experts, when it comes to mental health.
Back when i was in hospital, it was actually even worse - there were still examples of so called "psychuszka" back in 2012-2013 - Basically, for example, if some neighbour hated his neighbour, there were few instances, in which he falsely accused him or her of being mentally unwell, and ended up sending these people to mental hospitals.
Ok, i will write some more in next comment, so this one won't be that long
@@ethanstyant9704continuing...
When it comes to knowledge of society, about disorders, mental health and stuff...
IDK, maybe it's changing, but just few years ago, if someone in Poland said that they are depressed, they were either told that "it's just an excuse for them to be lazy" or something like that...
Or, they were told to "just go outside and run, this would cure them"
In case of Autism - It was even worse - not that long ago, in 2016, there was a report in polish program called "uwaga" - about a boy in a village near Rzeszów, who had autism, and basically the entire village was against him and his mother...
Not only this TV station didn't do anything to stand on the side of the boy (they actually tried to make him look as if he was "terrorizing" the village, and other kids and parents "we're so scared" - but failed, because most of the comments actually supported the boy and his mother - And also, you could see in the report, that parents of the other kids, are basically whispering something, and the mic basically catched them provoking their kids to attack and provoke that boy.)
The actually basically helped these people from village, by doing next to nothing, when they went with nonsense transparents in the live segment...
The reporter, Ryszard Cebula, constantly misnamed Autism spectrum disorder as, quote unquote, "asperger disease"
The villagers, students from local primary school, their parents and teachers, had transparents with stuff pointed at mother of that boy, saying stuff like "you had to be without heart to not cure your son!" and other stuff like this, basically, probably some person from village read some antivax nonsense, believed it, and they attacked the mother and the boy on a basis of that...
At some moment, there was an old lady, who also had autism - and she spoke against them, saying that they should be ashamed of themselves and that autism is not a disease and couldn't be cured - she then was subsequently booed and whistled at for saying that.
When it comes to other stuff, when it comes to autism in poland?
For example, poland has the lowest employment rate of people with autism in the entire eu, if not the world...
There are around 400 000 people with autism in Poland - out of them, only around 2% have a job.
So out of 400 000, only around 8000 are employed somewhere - If someone is autistic in poland, they basically have bigger chance to get to the Andrzej Wajda's Film school in Lodz (there are 1000 people for one place, and there are 8 places), than to get a job...
And unfortunately society doesn't understand that - for example, when i told my dad that i can't "just work in mcdonalds or KFC or other fast food, due to sensory overload, because i can't stand intensive smells, many sounds (i have a hearing range that is above average), and so on" , my dad angrily said that "that's just an excuse"
Was there SA?
I’m glad I didn’t go to a mental health hospital back then 😅 around two years I went to one because I tried to off myself because of being depressed, I spent 6 months there, I had a therapist, a lot of nice staff, who all helped me get to the point where I’m now In college (nearly moving onto software developer course) I get regular check ups, and I feel happier than I did back then, if I didn’t get that help, I’d most likely be dead. I’m thankful I ended up at a place where people cared, I’m still slightly depressed but not enough to do anything, just thankful things are moving up in life and trying to stay positive
Never understood why people think ripping a suicidal person from their home putting them in an unfamiliar environment filled with strangers will help them improve.
@@2lazydidntpickahandle I mean it did with me. I don’t know about the US or other countries but in the UK, I had my own room, I didn’t have to interact with anyone apart from staff, I was allowed to use electronics (apart from charging them because of cords) and yeah I got a lot of help inside there, if it wasn’t for them, I’d be dead or worse mentally.
@@Millaaxton In the US. My brother once had to go to one due to mental health issues. Couldn’t use any electronics and the entire day was scheduled. Any down time was spent in his room. Anytime he has the slightest issue the thought of being sent back sends him into a downward spiral that my family doesn’t really know how to pull him out of. Not on the level of anything mentioned in the video but still had the opposite intended affect.
@@2lazydidntpickahandle I guess changing the environment could help, maybe the place you're at is part of the problem, idk
I was in a ward back in 2020 after trying to ctrl+alt+del myself. The place I was in was awful. I had just legally become an adult, and I'm hoping the place was so awful because of the dreaded '19. Lots of violence. Security guards frequently, purposely, aggravated patients so the patient would become violent and they had an excuse to "exercise self defense." I witnessed a girl around my age having a panic attack, and their first instinct was to tackle her to the ground and throw her into the single isolation room, which was connected to the common area and wasn't sound proofed. They were screaming at her, she was crying. After locking her in, the guard went back to his buddies and started mocking her. I only recently discovered this isn't how those places are supposed to be, and I continue to wonder if that awful place will ever get shut down. I was so scared when I was there. There were only 3 rooms: a common area with chairs, a small women's "bedroom" with ~5 mats on the ground, and a men's "bedroom" with the same. Not only was the ward grossly overpopulated (at least 20 people), but the employees would never check what was going on inside of the "bedrooms." I steered clear of them. The doctor's only cared about keeping us sedated. I still don't know what pills they gave me, all I know is that I was told to take them, and they didn't look like my normal meds.
Still have nightmares about that place. About what happened. Pretty sure it's one of the reasons I'm terrified to go to sleep now. Like, I literally have somniphobia.
Hey, I'm so sorry you had to go through all that and still suffer from those traumatic experiences, I hope the lingering fears leave you alone and that you'll soon be able to find some peace and rest. If you don't mind me asking, why did you leave out the name of that place? Seems like things are beyond messed up for people being sent there, and casting a light on that could be what it takes for the right people looking into it and possibly leading to some reforms towards less inhumane treatments in that place
Luckily nowadays you don't have to "try" if you're Canadian.
When I had night terrors I escaped sleep with meth. Also went into a psych ward that sucked, but not that bad
You tried to reboot yourself? Or open your task manager? Which function?
I had a friend who was in a LVN level psych. nursing program and most of his instructors sexually assaulted female students and many of the students did meth and not only that, but the program director was involved in the deaths of countless faculty at the college he taught at because of his gang connections and nobody did anything.
I have names and dates if anybody is interested.
10:38 that whole part had me in tears💀💀💀
I have a mild case of cerebral palsy. It only affects my walking, but I would have been put in there if I had lived 50 years ago. It’s outright nonsensical that we used to do this to people we never knew how to accommodate.
I have Tourette’s and would HATE to have my limbs cut off because of all of my tics. Studying to be a SpEd teacher, and it’s so refreshing to have professors and classmates who are so compassionate… compared to Dr. Cotton lmao
If you’re watching this you should look up the Willowbrook State School. I work for a state supported living center and one of the videos they showed during training/orientation was the history of Willowbrook and how Geraldo Rivera practically single handedly got it shut down due to the sheer lack of human rights and the horrid living conditions
I'm actually at an inpatient concurrent disorders program right now for fentanyl addiction and bipolar (4 months sober boiii) that has been an asylum since the 30s, there's a lot of dark history here such as suicides, lobotomized patients, ECT, sedation practice instead of treating the disorders, thorazine and other extreme meds, making patients do industrial work, etc. Today it's a drug and alcohol rehab and basically a psych ward, there's a book talking about the history from the 70s until now and its so fucking creepy, definitely haunted as shit. Gonna play ouija at some point here for sure. It's called Claresholm Center For Addiction and Mental Health if you wanna check it out, not a lot of articles or documents on it online surprisingly but the record books are insane, no pun intended.
Congratulations on being sober! I hope you have a helpful and calm stay. Very best of luck to you.
@@Hessed3712 thanks 🖤 take care aswell
Congratulations! That’s a huge milestone, I hope things continue up from here for you
@@avahoward03 Thank you! I'm hopeful 🖤
Good luck, Casper. Find good friends to help you.
It's not about if the baby is insane, they just wanted it to stop crying so they put him in the spinny-box
I think I’m going to hell for laughing at “spinny box” 😂
Sadly many homeless shelters echo these sorts of places still today, the people who would have been at these asylums in the past have ended up in shelters today and most still aren’t getting the help they need due to lack of funding. It’s a sad sight some days at my local shelter and things are getting worse every day it seems as more and more people are on the streets. We need to do better still.
The ones on the street are still semi-functioning, you should see the people in the jails. Some of these asylums remind me of the mental health unit in my countys jail.
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Is that the real roach dogg jr? 😊🥹😊
Is that the Roach Dogg's little boy
This is why villains like Bondrewd from made in abyss are so terrifying because that’s a true depiction of real people in the science/medical industry.
Alright folks story time - my great grandfather was one of the first electro shock therapy patients in Salem St Mental Asylum in MA. In my youth (late 90’s) as a man in his late 80’s he would often listen ear to the wall for clicking “from their tape recorders” and kept 30 years of newspapers in numerical order in suitcases stacked to the ceiling. Sad and scary stuff for what was likely once a mild depressive episode misunderstood.
I've never been to an asylum but I have worked in a psych ward most of the time it's unearthly quiet with patients being druged or prescribed medication and asleep or "resting".
I think the most messed up part of this is just the sheer amount of lives wiped out or cut short and we’ll never know how much potential they really had.
Albert Einstien’s brain was built a little different; the part responsible for doing simple things was abnormally small and the part for doing complex things was abnormally huge. He had trouble doing simple tasks like tying his shoes. Where would we be if we just jammed him in an asylum?
Or J.R.R. Tolkien developing a whole new language with his sister when he was young? Sounds like he belongs in the looney bin!
Nikola Tesla was in love with birds.
Where would we be in society today if we actually gave these people a chance? How many Lords of the Rings did we miss out on? How much earlier would we have had great societal advances like airplanes or the internet? How much music was lost?
We’ll never know because we listened to these psychopathic quacks that thought their treatments did anything.
In love with birds…? As in beastiality or hyper fixation? Cus uhh one of those are actually looney bin behavior
Sadly, that's the truth about a lot of modern treatments. We treat not just illness, but abnormalities as things to be treated, instead of working to foster and grow what talent's one can harness. Now, I believe the idea that Einstein couldn't tie his shoes is mostly fabricated, but regarding Tesla, he was also pretty OCD, especially with the numbers 3, 6, and 9.
If he was born in modern day, he'd be given a drug cocktail so thick, he'd be a zombie and deemed "cured," but left unable to do anything he was good at. Also not to forget Turing, one of the father's of modern computers was chemically castrated for being gay, despite being a genius above his time. How mental health is treated in modern day is more humane than older days, but not by much. Instead of physical, you get chemical lobotomies for not being standardized to the "normal" curve.
That same thing can be said for a lot of societal issues. How many super gifted poor people have toiled away working 50 hours a week at some shit dead-end job because they never made enough money to go to school and break the cycle of poverty? How many geniuses died really young because they didn't have access to healthcare? How many recovering addicts could have contributed a ton to society but weren't given the chance because they had a drug charge in their past? I'm in the last group and was SUPER lucky to get a really good job at a company that helps people get access to medication and have saved them 1000s of labor hours by automating a ton of mindless, repetitive work. But, that only happened because I found a really progressive company that gave me a chance; I have a lot of friends who are just as capable as me who haven't been given that same chance. Luckily, we seem to be moving in the right direction with most of these sorts of things, but holy shit, all of this shit shoulda been sorted out decades ago.
@@HulkTheSurgeon"How mental health is treated in the modern day is more humane than older days, but not by much."
Okay, that seems a little dramatic to me. Don't get me wrong, I think that psychotropic drugs are way overprescribed; people need to try changing diet and exercise before medication and doctors will often skip that step, basically no kid under the age of like 13 should ever be given adhd meds, pharaceutical manufacturers push for over prescibing all the time, etc etc etc. However, getting lobotomized, thrown in prison, or tortured for decades in an asylum is not even almost comparable to "trying to medicate them."
@@fullmetal929 Pretty much said what I was thinking there, drugs that admittedly have nasty side effects are separated by many orders of magnitude from an ice pick through your eye socket, never mind the rest of the evil shit they did in asylums.
Worth bearing in mind too that the current state of mental health care is beneficial in that people who are mentally ill aren't hidden anymore, the reason the evil shit they did in asylums happened at all was because they were away from society, nobody could see it, out of sight, out of mind so they could do whatever and nobody thought about, nobody cared. Be hard pressed to have that to quite the same degree now.
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@@candacefullrv9291 god damnit
thanks for sharing! 🦭
They are definitely worth a trip to visit some, especially if you can get private tours.
I haven't laughed this loud and this hard in sometime. This is gold, thank you!!!!
I feel so bad for all the victims of lobotomies, out of everything, that 'procedure' scares me the most.
I feel bad for that danish guy because I am danish and i kinda laughed because if you never heard somebody speak danish it sounds insane and really weird so I get why they would think an angry danish guy would be mentally ill
There was a dr that would do lobotomies on stage in a theater and got people killed and did it like a magic act. Legit horrific stuff.
I was in a mental hospital twice and I never felt safe, I was struggling with an ED and I was in the same ward as a girl who had very distressing fits and I would hear screaming all the time from different patients day and night. My roommate was getting EST and there was a convicted felon sleeping in the roll next to me. The city decided to focus solely on the childrens hospital and to totally forgot the mental ward. Worst two weeks of my life
'Rebecca are you having a good day?'
*click click click click*
I absolutely lost my breath laughing, my eyes are streaming
Thier is a state hospital thats only a short drive from me call "The Ridges". Its a massive 1800s asylum that sits atop the Appalachian mountains and looks down on the city of Athens Ohio. If im not mistaken it was famous for handing out lobotomies in record numbers. Also, its insanely haunted! A couple of college students broke in to explore it in the late 90s/00s, then when they got back they went to thier dorm rooms. Just an hour later one of the girls slit her wrist and wrote in blood on the walls. That dorm room would have horrible things happening constantly...it was so bad that they eventually sealed the room up and thiers not even a door thier anymore. I went down to the asylum and exploreded it with my friends, it was an extremely uncomfortable place...
I recently had a visit to the psych ward. I was there for about 5 days, and man was it an abysmal time. I didn't have a room so I was sleeping on a cot on the floor. There was no activities or anything to keep people stimulated. There wasn't any windows so our perception of time was completely out the window. Twice a day, they would open up to a fenced in pavilion. And just have people be outside. This was in the middle of December so its fucking freezing outside and we are all in basically a T-Shirt and the thinnest sweat pants on the planet. But there was nothing better to do and it was the only time we actually got to see sunlight. There was one phone in the building which only had specified hours on which it could be used. The staff there was incredibly hostile to the patients, I watched a tech almost assault a patient. A woman got bruises on her arm from the head nurse being too forceful on her. Fights broke out every night on the "women's side" of the building. Which was denoted by a line of tape on the ground. I got seen by a doctor one time ever and that was only to get denied from being released. To find out that my case was never worked on at all during my stay, and my family had to give all the information to the hospital itself just to have me released. Every day I had to be put down as "refusing to take medication" when I said I don't wish to be on meds. Which none of the doctors listened, except a single nurse. Some of the staff seemed confused why I was still there, they would ask "have you spoken with the discharge planner yet?" Which also never happened. I was told I had to come back to see a psychiatrist in a weeks time for an appointment they would make, and yet again. They didn't make the appointment. So the timeline was, get admitted to a mental hospital, wait for 10 hours in a freezing room. Get transferred to a different building. Let my brain melt for a week. Get released having received no treatment after my family put in all the work to get me out.
For the record, this place has a rating of 1.9 stars on google.
That's awful
Wow... we've had the same experience. It doesn't matter what facility it is, experience is always the same.
I didn't even mention how many times I watched people thrown into solitary confinement because they were fed up with consistently being lied to.
ive been in atleast 10 different places and they were all exactly like this, minus the getting to go outside part. the docs also ignored that i had severe issues like seizures etc, and i never got any meds whilst in 8/10 of the places except for if a nurse would bring me stupid ass tylenol or smth. it really do be like this many places still.
Only Papa Meat can make such a morbid topic so goddamn funny.
Fun fact: the movie sucker punch is based on a real asylum based in Brattleboro, VT commonly referred to as Brattleboro retreat. It’s still up and running to this day
one of the first essays I wrote in college was about the misconceptions and dark history of electroconvulsive therapy and how it is still used today. I interviewed a person who had done it "recently" 2012 and how while it did help with his depression, the migraines he would get from them afterwards would leave him bedridden for weeks.
My Grandfather was a Gravedigger for Knowle Mental Hospital (UK) for years, the stories he told me were horrifying. Thankyou for another great video papa!
Fr, I was depressed and making suicide jokes so they arrested me into one of these places, I was 14 and crying the whole time telling them that i don’t want to kill myself, but the lady said I was a “sad dark person” and brought up me using the iphone gun app in 3rd grade, same lady allegedly abused kids too.
My family had to spend thousands on medical fees, even though i was discharged after evaluation…
This video makes me depressed especially since i work at a mental health facility the difference between how the treated clients back then to now is insane
Love your compassion in this. Best take on this I've ever seen.
Rich people committing their mistresses to the asylum when they got pregnant sounds entirely like what happened. 💯!!!
I was institutionalized earlier in 2021. They are basically daycares for adults depending on what level they assign you to
the sad thing is that care facilities we have now-a-days are not much better. i live near one in orem utah and they have quite a few violent special needs people but you can also see the workers do not treat some of them very nice either.
Same with psych wards and hospitals. I’ve been hospitalized twice for extensive periods of time and when they Do help you for what you came in for, they end up giving you a whole new list of mental issues to deal with due to how they treat you. Obviously not as bad as asylums were but still have a lot of the same problems.
@@L1ncore i was lucky to go to a psych ward a few times that i thought was great, but even then one cruel worker can ruin the entire facility :/
i was only in a juvenile one once when i was seventeen and i remember we were all so sad because a toddler got dropped off on basically christmas eve. he did kind of have temper tantrums and stuff but i don't think that warranted a psych ward visit, idk :(
edit - also maybe he was having temper tantrums because his parents just dropped him off with a bunch of strangers and probably ranted to him about how they were cancelling christmas or something. the poor kid was like, two or three
You have to wonder sometimes, were they already like that or is that a response to how they're treated? Same with like foster children or animals at shelters - were they really bad or are reacting out of fear?
@@mightymeatymech yep! One of the hospitals i was in was significantly better than the other, but there were a few employees that hated the patients (one straight up would talk about how much she hated her job, while we were around) which would lead to many of us distrusting the genuinely Good staff that was there. And at least two instances of non-violent patients being forcibly isolated.
@@KATinBLACK its sort of an oroborous? Many people with developmental disabilities or psychotic disorders act out violently due to fear, overstimulation, etc. Staff responds violently or inhumanely. Patients remain fearful or overstimulated (or begin to become both). And the cycle just continues. Imo people unreasonably expect these vulnerable people to change immediately when theyre treated with moderate kindness, so more humane methods are rarely taken seriously due to the amount of time and money required.
Yea my grandma was a victim of Electro-shock therapy.. she had two late term miscarriages in the early-late fifties, and she had a mental breakdown out of grief, and their answer? "Shock her till she stops." and it did serious damage to her. She'd have moments where she'd just "Blank out" due to it, ie stare off into space and not respond until she snapped out of it. Lets just say, if I had a time machine.. things would go very badly for that shrink at the State hospital..
They're called "State Hospitals" now.
Nah, it's called X and TicToc.
Nah, it's called X and TicToc.