Love the way you are breaking things down. I have been looking for something like this. Appreciate what you are doing esp with this series. Being new to this I'm learning a lot. Thank you again
this is another awesome one man! very well explained and great pointer on the split screen! this is a perfect example of leveraging both 2D and downvue because downvue seems to be better at highlighting and separating out fish, where as the 2D (IMO) does a better job showing hard bottom. great content!
Thank you for the video a lot of good detail please keep up the good information I still have trouble reading everything at the bottom I have a Garmin 73sv and the 93sv
This is an extremely beneficial series that has been needed for years. GREAT JOB. Got a newbie question for you though. Seeing as down imaging is so much more detailed, why do anglers use them both instead of just down imaging? I see no benefit of using 2D when one shows you a better, clearer picture of what's going on! Just my 2cents.
Thank you and great question. I see a huge benefit from running both for a couple of reason. 1 running both side by side will teach you exactly what you are looking at on both types of sonar 2 running both acts as a system of checks and balance 3 most and importantly, objects will appear bigger on 2d and stand out much better than DI small fish might just be a tiny spec on DI. So you can see them on 2d better and then verify what you are seeing on DI
@@MGMarineTech Interesting! Will you be doing a video on how to fine tune Down Imaging and 2D Sonar for clearer Images? Or is that something the user needs to learn on their own units by trial and error? Thanks.
@@SkiiDoggy I have one video currently on how to dial in your DI but nothing for 2d yet. It’s been on my list to do for a while but not enough hours in the day
Great info! Is the 56 better for 2d and clearvu over the 54, or just better range on sidevu? Wondering if it's worth the slight upcharge. Looking at getting a UHD 93sv. Thanks!
I have a few good screenshots I've taken since I bought and installed the GT54 transducer I purchased from you using the two screen view. I can send them to you for future references if you'd like?
I have a 93sv with 56 and Live scope on my kayak. I am in water from 7' to 20'. What I find is that I scare the fish away at those depths just floating by. I can see them with forward facing Live Scope taking off in all directions before I even get close to them. I will try the dual screen Idea, I had not thought of that to check down imaging and 2D. Thanks
@@MGMarineTech I am in canals that are sometimes 50’ to 90’ wide. I have been watching them on live scope swim around the kayak as I float along. Most of the peacock bass hang in the weeds and it’s tough to see them in 3 to 4 feet of water. I have plotted my lake and that works awesome.
@@steveokoren4059 if you are wondering how to create a combination like seen, I have a video dedicated to that. If you are wanting to know how to change your settings to clean up your picture, I have a gt54 down imaging video but no 2d setting video. I also have a video for both the gt56 and gt54 side imaging I hope that is what you are wanting to know ??
Hello, Hope you are doing well.. I want to get your opinion on my set up. I got 93sv plug with GT54 on port side and 93 UHD GT56 on starboard side. Because of the small transome and trimtabs in the way. I plan to install both transducers toward the outside of the transome. 5 inches from the edge of the transome. ( wish I can show you the picture) Do you think this set up would work? Thank you. Garmin note ( don't run transducer wires next or near the trolling motor wore or the house wires.
Hi Dan. I would just run the gt56 and network the two units. Then they will both be able to see the gt56. The 56 can do everything the 54 can plus sooo much more. As far as mounting it. You are more than welcome to send me pictures on my Facebook page and I can give you my opinion
There could have been several reason. Fish could have been slightly out of the cone or the settings could have been off etc. But in down imaging they will show up exactly how they did, as dots. Not arches.
Nothing to do with this video. Man how do you use the lake maps and veiw them with a garmin 73sv? I was on the lake for 5 hours today and all i saw was my boat sitting on land in austin texas. Maybe the lake i was on isnt on there. I dont know. I am trying to fish Walter E. Long in Austin Tx. Also known as Decker Lake. Help if you can. Thanks
Well there’s a couple of options here. Have you downloaded the maps tiles for the areas you want to have the more detailed maps? And have you synced them to your unit with ActiveCaptain? The other option is that the lake just isn’t covered. Either way you can use QuickDraw contours and you can make your own custom maps of that like with 1’ contours. I did a video on the subject that covers it in depth.
A little off topic.. I have my transducer on the back of my boat,I was told I could add another gt54 to the front (trolling motor) with a Y cable and run both gt54's to my 73 sv. But I would have to switch back and forth from one transducer to the other because they won't both work at the same time? He said they would interfere with each other. He said there is a cable that would allow me to switch back and forth from each transducer?
To do this, you would just have to run both cables upto the unit. And then pick and choose which one you want to run. There is no y cable that does this, There is a switch by “madd gar” that allows you to hook up two different transducers to 1 unit and switch back and forth with the flip of a switch. But you can’t run both at the same time with one screen. You could however run two with two screens and then network them and pick and choose which transducer you wanted to look at.
The down view you're describing looks more like Clearvu to me. I have a UHD74sv and see no down views which look like that. The ClearVu view on mine looks exactly like the image your showing.
On this style combo, with down imaging and 2d sonar the frequencies don’t conflict being that they are so far apart. This also only applies to transducers that can run side and down imaging at the same frequency, some can, some Cant.
Every setup is a little different you just have to try it and see if it allows you to run the same frequency. Smaller boats where the transducers are closer it can be more prevalent
Sorry If I'm missing something here. But I see no advantage whatsoever in the 2D and the video only shows the difference between the two and would give me every reason to make the DI full screen. 🤔
I am interested in actual on the water real life down and side scan views because I have NEVER been able to replicate the simulation views from Garmin. I think a lot of the side and down scan imagery that is out and floating on UA-cam posing as Garmin pictures come from Humminbird Helix units. I own a Garmin Echomap Ultra 126sv, two 93sv, one GLS 10 Livescope, a GT56, a GT34, and all networked via Garmin GMS Network Hub. I have yet to see clear pictures like the ones posted online as Garmin Echomap side and down views. Please advise.
You would have to go through a lot of work to make a humminbird picture and video look like a garmin. Everything you see on my channel is 100% a garmin unit. Your issues are either install issues or settings issues. Feel free to message me and I can do my best to help you get desired results
Love the way you are breaking things down. I have been looking for something like this. Appreciate what you are doing esp with this series. Being new to this I'm learning a lot. Thank you again
this is another awesome one man! very well explained and great pointer on the split screen! this is a perfect example of leveraging both 2D and downvue because downvue seems to be better at highlighting and separating out fish, where as the 2D (IMO) does a better job showing hard bottom. great content!
Thanks again mate, great vid. I don’t have that combo up, but will now.
Definitely learning more, and looking forward to the next one.
Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
Great breakdown, my favorite combo when I’m in an area holding fish, appreciate all you do!!
Thank you very much for both videos very informative and educational
Another awesome video, thanks for breaking everything down like you do, ready for the next one!!!
Excellent content & break down on "what's what"! Thanks for the vid!
Thank you for the video a lot of good detail please keep up the good information I still have trouble reading everything at the bottom I have a Garmin 73sv and the 93sv
Great 👍 👌 insight love the way you break it down
Another great detailed video! Thanks Max
Very informative, well done. Thanks
Excellent videos and very good information
very well simple explanation. I knew a lot of this already. But a great efresher for me
Picking apart images make for really good content. Nice. Subbed
Great info
Thanks again!👍
This is an extremely beneficial series that has been needed for years. GREAT JOB. Got a newbie question for you though. Seeing as down imaging is so much more detailed, why do anglers use them both instead of just down imaging? I see no benefit of using 2D when one shows you a better, clearer picture of what's going on! Just my 2cents.
Thank you and great question.
I see a huge benefit from running both for a couple of reason.
1 running both side by side will teach you exactly what you are looking at on both types of sonar
2 running both acts as a system of checks and balance
3 most and importantly, objects will appear bigger on 2d and stand out much better than DI small fish might just be a tiny spec on DI. So you can see them on 2d better and then verify what you are seeing on DI
@@MGMarineTech Interesting! Will you be doing a video on how to fine tune Down Imaging and 2D Sonar for clearer Images? Or is that something the user needs to learn on their own units by trial and error? Thanks.
@@SkiiDoggy I have one video currently on how to dial in your DI but nothing for 2d yet.
It’s been on my list to do for a while but not enough hours in the day
I have learned so much from your videos thank you. But lose the mustache lol
Enjoyed the video, I would like to see one on side imaging on some bream beds.
Hold tight because that’s next!!
Great info! Is the 56 better for 2d and clearvu over the 54, or just better range on sidevu? Wondering if it's worth the slight upcharge. Looking at getting a UHD 93sv. Thanks!
The 2d is the same.
The down imaging is much better!
Shoot me a message and we can get you a uhd2 with gt56 hands down much better than the UHD
I have a few good screenshots I've taken since I bought and installed the GT54 transducer I purchased from you using the two screen view. I can send them to you for future references if you'd like?
Hey Ronnie! I’d love to take a look at them
@@MGMarineTech I just emailed several to the address I have from before.
Where did you send the pictures? I haven’t seen them yet?
I have a 93sv with 56 and Live scope on my kayak. I am in water from 7' to 20'. What I find is that I scare the fish away at those depths just floating by. I can see them with forward facing Live Scope taking off in all directions before I even get close to them. I will try the dual screen Idea, I had not thought of that to check down imaging and 2D. Thanks
Hey there, for those depths and that situation side imaging is your friend!
You can spot them from much further away!
@@MGMarineTech I am in canals that are sometimes 50’ to 90’ wide. I have been watching them on live scope swim around the kayak as I float along. Most of the peacock bass hang in the weeds and it’s tough to see them in 3 to 4 feet of water. I have plotted my lake and that works awesome.
Your reference to 2D I have seen on other videos... Is that the same as traditional?
That’s correct 2d= traditional
If you had to buy a fish finder/chart plotter today which brand and model would you get. And why ?
Garmin GPSMAP 8612 with a gt56 easy to use with tons of features and crystal clear imaging
Can you make a video on how to set up these settings for optimum viewing? TY
Are you referring to the down and side imaging sonar settings?
@@MGMarineTech Both screen set ups
@@steveokoren4059 if you are wondering how to create a combination like seen, I have a video dedicated to that.
If you are wanting to know how to change your settings to clean up your picture, I have a gt54 down imaging video but no 2d setting video.
I also have a video for both the gt56 and gt54 side imaging
I hope that is what you are wanting to know ??
That's the out of the box setting on a Garmin 93sv UHD. That's my picture he is breaking down
If the sonar is set up properly, what will you see well with it that you won’t with the down imaging on the left side? Thanks for the instruction!
That varies case to case.
It all depends on how objectors go through the cones of the sonar etc
In this deeper water would you suggest bottom locking to enlarge the return scale?
Yes, you could do that if you weren’t worried about seeing what’s was in the upper portion of the water column.
Is there any imaging that would show crabs? We do lots of crabbing on the Oregon coast. We’re usually in the bays with 15-40’ water.
I assume crabs hold very tight to the bottom lol? Your best bet would be a combination just like this for scouting for them.
Can I stream my phone to the 106 or the 126 SV? Thought it would be fun to stream the football game while we’re crabbing.
No, you would need a gpsmap with a hdmi input.
Hello,
Hope you are doing well.. I want to get your opinion on my set up.
I got 93sv plug with GT54 on port side and 93 UHD GT56 on starboard
side. Because of the small transome and trimtabs in the way.
I plan to install both transducers toward the outside of the transome.
5 inches from the edge of the transome. ( wish I can show you the picture)
Do you think this set up would work?
Thank you.
Garmin note ( don't run transducer wires next or near the trolling motor wore or the house wires.
Hi Dan. I would just run the gt56 and network the two units. Then they will both be able to see the gt56.
The 56 can do everything the 54 can plus sooo much more.
As far as mounting it. You are more than welcome to send me pictures on my Facebook page and I can give you my opinion
How come on both views you don't see the traditional arch view of the fish?
There could have been several reason. Fish could have been slightly out of the cone or the settings could have been off etc.
But in down imaging they will show up exactly how they did, as dots. Not arches.
Nothing to do with this video. Man how do you use the lake maps and veiw them with a garmin 73sv? I was on the lake for 5 hours today and all i saw was my boat sitting on land in austin texas. Maybe the lake i was on isnt on there. I dont know. I am trying to fish Walter E. Long in Austin Tx. Also known as Decker Lake. Help if you can. Thanks
Well there’s a couple of options here. Have you downloaded the maps tiles for the areas you want to have the more detailed maps? And have you synced them to your unit with ActiveCaptain?
The other option is that the lake just isn’t covered.
Either way you can use QuickDraw contours and you can make your own custom maps of that like with 1’ contours. I did a video on the subject that covers it in depth.
A little off topic.. I have my transducer on the back of my boat,I was told I could add another gt54 to the front (trolling motor) with a Y cable and run both gt54's to my 73 sv. But I would have to switch back and forth from one transducer to the other because they won't both work at the same time? He said they would interfere with each other. He said there is a cable that would allow me to switch back and forth from each transducer?
To do this, you would just have to run both cables upto the unit. And then pick and choose which one you want to run.
There is no y cable that does this,
There is a switch by “madd gar” that allows you to hook up two different transducers to 1 unit and switch back and forth with the flip of a switch. But you can’t run both at the same time with one screen.
You could however run two with two screens and then network them and pick and choose which transducer you wanted to look at.
The down view you're describing looks more like Clearvu to me. I have a UHD74sv and see no down views which look like that. The ClearVu view on mine looks exactly like the image your showing.
Down view and clear view are the same thing. They are just different names for down imaging .
@@MGMarineTech Understood! Thanks for the info. Keep up the good work!!
Is it best to run two different frequencies for best results with this combo too?
On this style combo, with down imaging and 2d sonar the frequencies don’t conflict being that they are so far apart.
This also only applies to transducers that can run side and down imaging at the same frequency, some can, some Cant.
Is it possible to put down waypoint in down imaging on top of those fish so you can go back and target them?
Yes you sure can, go back and look at my “waypoints” video and it will show you how to do it
Will the frequency settings cause interference between the front and back graphs or can they be set the same?
Every setup is a little different you just have to try it and see if it allows you to run the same frequency.
Smaller boats where the transducers are closer it can be more prevalent
I don't have down view option. Can I use clear view and get a similar view as in this video?
Yes down view /clearvu and down imaging are all just different names for the same type of “down” sonar
Sorry If I'm missing something here. But I see no advantage whatsoever in the 2D and the video only shows the difference between the two and would give me every reason to make the DI full screen. 🤔
2d will be better at picking up objects that are sometimes missed by down imaging or are so small that you can’t see them on down imaging,
@@MGMarineTech Ok, thanks, still trying to learn to interpret what I see on 2d, but this helps. Thanks
@@BandGalaxy running them side by side is one of the best ways to learn both at the same time.
Give it a go and you will see what I mean.
@@BandGalaxy eventually you’ll get to the point where you can pick fish out of weeds on 2d without down imaging
@@MGMarineTech I will be thoroughly impressed with myself at that point. 😄
I am interested in actual on the water real life down and side scan views because I have NEVER been able to replicate the simulation views from Garmin. I think a lot of the side and down scan imagery that is out and floating on UA-cam posing as Garmin pictures come from Humminbird Helix units. I own a Garmin Echomap Ultra 126sv, two 93sv, one GLS 10 Livescope, a GT56, a GT34, and all networked via Garmin GMS Network Hub. I have yet to see clear pictures like the ones posted online as Garmin Echomap side and down views. Please advise.
You would have to go through a lot of work to make a humminbird picture and video look like a garmin.
Everything you see on my channel is 100% a garmin unit.
Your issues are either install issues or settings issues.
Feel free to message me and I can do my best to help you get desired results
Also I have a lot of on the water side imaging that’s close up as well.
@@MGMarineTech Thank you.
@@MGMarineTech Thank you.
This is 100% a garmin screenshot. It's my boat and I took the picture off my echomap 93sv UHD. All out of the box settings.
FYI
Down imaging = Humminbird
ClearVu = Garmin
Just names for the same type of sonar.
@@MGMarineTech What I am hinting at is using Garmin terms. It is hard enough learning the 93sv at my age.