Rome's Most Spectacular Defeat: The Battle of the Caudine Forks
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- Опубліковано 7 сер 2024
- By 321 BCE, Rome was standing nearly victorious over the Samnites. They had managed to win nearly every engagement thus far in their 2nd war, even pushing the Samnites to offer up their surrender. Rome refused, likely believing that they held the upper hand and had the opportunity to completely defeat the Samnites. The Samnites though were not quite done just yet. Gaius Pontius, the Samnite commander, would enact a genius and cunning plan to trick the Romans into marching right into his trap. The Romans would be surrounded, out-numbered, and completely cut off from any supplies or reinforcements. The entire Roman would be at his mercy and the fate of Italy and it's people stood on his shoulders. What would Gaius do? Why is this one of Rome's greatest defeats? And what would happen to that Roman army? Let's talk about it.
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Sources (if you want recommendations just ask!):
Livy, Ab Urbe Condita: www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/...
Nicholas Horsfall, The Caudine Forks: Topography and Illusion
E.T. Salmon, The Resumption of Hostilities after the Caudine Forks
Michael P. Fronda: Livy 9.20 and Early Roman Imperialism in Apulia
Mary Beard: SPQR: A History of Ancient Rome
Nic Fields and Sean O'Brogain: Caudine Forks 321 BC: Rome's humiliation in the Second Samnite War
0:00 - Intro
0:47 - Rome Triumphant
2:42 - The Start of the Caudine Forks Disaster
5:51 - What Should Gaius do?
9:02 - The Middle Path and Rome’s Humiliation
13:19 - Rome Responds
15:57 - Spurius’ Greatest Hour
21:30 - A Retrospective
26:15 - Outro
23:44
Well, we’re also talking about something that happened 2300 years ago. The defile may have looked different back then.
It’s like with the Battle of the Trebbia. The river was in a totally different position back then.
hey that shot you showed around 1:40 is my hometown! Montesarchio Italy. Every one from the towns in the valle caudina knows this story
That's so cool! I am curious, what do people from the area think of the story? Do they view it as actually historical? Or just an invention? Or somewhere in between? Always fascinating to hear what people think about the history of their local area! Thanks for watching!
The event probably took place near the modern town of Forchia (BN), located at the entrance of the Claudine Valley. I live in Suessola Valley, divided from Caudine Valley by Caudine Forks.
@@idiottalkshistory It is 100% viewed as true. there is a sign when you enter forchia saying "in 326 BC the Samnites defeated the roman's in the battle of the caudine forks". In general there is an air of pride surrounding the history of it. Many people from the valle caudina talk about how they are from the same people who embarrassed rome
@@francescoizzo3406 Saluti da Montesarchio!
11:26
F*****g Livy, he describes a Shakespeare's play, not a historical event.
And he trys to justifying Rome's genocide of Samnite, witch will occur later, what an awful act.
God.
I'm sure they didn't barricade the whole thing but some fortification can really boost troops' effectiveness, even if it isn't a huge wall. Also Gaius pontius and his dad were probably made up
I'd say you probably have the right of it. I can easily see Livy exaggerating the size of the barricade/wall to make the Roman defeat more palatable for his audience. I also definitely agree with you on Gaius, it has never made sense to me why he would go through all the trouble of getting his dad out to the camp just to ignore him and even do the one thing he expressly says not to do! Thanks for watching!
Has there been an excavation of the Caudine Forks and have they found any remains?
There have been attempts. The real issue is that this wasn't really a battle so there's not a whole lot that we would be able to find even if we did manage to find the exact area Livy was talking about. The other issue is that this area has been inhabited for a very long time and because of that there is a lot of contamination in any dig that is attempted. So to answer your question, there have been attempts but nothing conclusively found yet. Thanks for watching!
.. why is it translated "Forks" ? Forche doesnt translate to forks, it translates to Gallows.
Local tourism office called. They got a lawyer.
I honestly have no idea!
I have to admit that I keep finding it disturbing that English speakers tend to not even try to pronounce placenames like "via caudina" in an authentic way, vaya caudina just makes me think of french style linguistic chauvenism everywhere they went. (+ in this specific case you allready use the I of caudina correctly for an italian (and more correctly as far as we know for a latin) pronunciation where as the first I of via is spoken as as an Ai for some reason)
I'm not Italian or anything but I just wanted to point that out+ unlike what certain people might say about "cultural appropriation (BS concept in 99% of cited cases) people LOVE when someone from a different culture shows any genuine appreciation or effort to immerge themselves in their culture, traditions or indeed speak their language etc..
(the only true case of cultural appropriation i can think off as actually being "appropriation" is not even something we are mad about (low countries people) and that is santa clause, which is the addoption and appropriation (and change) of a cultural practice or attribute (sinterklaasfeest) (appropriation actually speaks for itsself in that regard as in claiming something as being your own when it isn't so)
and again, nobody in the low countries really minds it, it's a children's feast, (just keep your noses out of our traditions like "black pete" that can of worms goes deep and most people don't even realise it over here but he is not a "mockery of a black person/slave or even really human, black pete is a litteral demon (which was supposedly tamed by saint nicholas in the folkmyth) and can best be compared to Krampus. the concept is also much older, bad kids get punished for immoral behaviour by being whipped with a rod of branches and kidnapped in a burlap sack)
Yeah, black pete thing isn't really racist but it still does have a creepy child abuse tone. So get rid of it please. American Santa has friendly gender neutral elves who make toys and would NEVER harm kids, naughty or otherwise. Stop being a 'low country' (Netherlands clearly has self-esteem issues if that's how they describe their nation) and be better please.
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History is wrote by victors