"Complete And Utter Chaos" After Motion Of No Confidence In Commons Speaker Signed by 50 MPs
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- A motion of no confidence in Commons speaker Lindsay Hoyle has now been signed by more than 50 MPs, after he broke with convention to allow a vote on Labour’s Gaza ceasefire amendment.
The speaker apologised to the House of Commons after the chamber descended into chaos, with MPs walking out in protest at his handling of the debate.
It centred on his decision to select Labour’s bid to amend the SNP motion calling for an “immediate ceasefire” in Gaza and Israel, which was later passed without vote.
Commons Leader Penny Mordaunt blamed the Labour Party for chaotic scenes in the Commons on Wednesday.
TalkTV's Julia Hartley-Brewer is joined by former military intelligence officer Philip Ingram MBE and TalkTV political correspondent Alicia Fitzgerald to decipher what happened in the commons over the last few days.
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Sack him he needs to be removed
Why are MP's called honourable members? If they had any honour the Speaker would have stepped down by now!
It's not just MPs who are threatened. But they don't seem to care about the safety of the rest of the people, it takes them being threatened, before they act. As usual.
If they had not allowed this country to get out of control by an incoming force that nobody except they wanted, and that we have to pay for, MPs would not be in the kind of danger that the rest of us are. Who tells the police not to arrest the people calling for jihad? We have a schoolteacher from Batley in hiding with his family. It's about time MPs get what they dish out to the rest of us - or else get off their sit-upons and do something.
Parliament has absolutely no power or influence over Israeli. Or Palestinian war what is the exact point of wasting the taxpayer’s money ??????
No point what so ever .
Virtue signalling - an SNP trait that is often designed to deflect attention from Scottish affairs.
*"We are living with the consequences of an immigration and ‘integration’ fantasy which should have been abandoned years ago."*--Douglas Murray
Hoyle's position is not "intollerable", it's untenable. He must go.
Hoyle has shown that he is weak and can be bullied into making poor decisions. I will be sad to see him go, but he must.
Zio are ya
MPs are scared and can safely huddle inside? Guess what, the rest of us can't.
How does Starmer walk away from this scot-free?
Because the Left control the media and it's the media that determines whether something is a scandal or not.
Starmer never had any credibility to lose and his credibility was always at zero
Sunaks and the Conservatives is 100 below zero.
@@Andrew-tx9jyLabour and Tories. Both as bad as each other.
@barbarabell2396 Nope, tories statistically worse on almost every issue. This is something people push to get people to keep voting Tory/not vote Labour. Labour always perform better than Tories on most things - Tories use an international bank crisis as evidence that Labour aren’t good with the economy. But look at our economy atm…
Labour are like the Democrat Party in America
Biden and Starmer are cut from the same cloth
Hoyle has just made it more dangerous for MPs as he has shown that he will bend if threatened so all a nutter will think all they need to do is to issue threats and he will give in.
Hopefully the presence of armed Police around Westminster will be increased.
Does anyone seriously think, that any cease fire demands made in the Commons, will be acted upon by Mr Netenyahu. He already knows how the rest of the world feels about Israel’s approach to the Gaza problem. Does he care? Not a jot.
The rest of the Islamic world. Do you include Britain in it?
Not the point. It was SNP's turn to put forward whatever motion they wanted to. They were denied, against long standing precedent. And it appears it was done to help Labour.
@@Pacman398 It would not have made any difference the out come would still have fallen Nuttyyahoos deaf ears.
@@susangarbutt7189 again, not the point. MPs from the third party, have a right under precedent to put forward motions for a vote at guaranteed times. To have their views known on specific issues. This precedent takes away that right. And it appears it was done so for the benefit of the Labour Party. Whether you or Hamas cares about the vote is not the point.
Don't you see this was supposed to be another nail in the coffin in the Islamic attempt to control the West.The Islamic plan too overwhelm and control the West is a slow well planned strategy using mass migration and small hit and run tactics designed too gradually sap the Western system of its strengh ,much as Saladin did with his successful campaign against the Knight Templars during the Christian crusades.
Julia, for gods sake. Let this lady explain what she says without you keep butting in and throwing the explanation out of synq
Totally agree, why she has “guests” on her show I really don’t know. She never lets people speak.
I don’t like the SNP but they were shafted by underhand discussions and deprived of their right to propose their amendment. The threats to our elected politicians by mobs outside the parliament is an absolute disgrace, particularly when foreign nationals are a huge part of the mobs.
fareign nationals are also a huge part of our parliament, tbf.
@@lisah9561 Correct there is not one in that parliament who would say they are English .
They crafted a motion designed to split, not unite. It was using the Gaza situation for their political gain. Hoyle saw that and tried to do the right thing.
@@simonjess8471True but that is politics - Hoyle, nobody else, ignored the rules because of pressure applied on him by Starmer. No matter what his intent was, he admits he made a mistake and that can be taken in mitigation, but he must be judged. I fear that with 70 MPs having no confidence in him, his position is now untenable.
@@JACB006 I agree. Given his previous allegiance, it will be a difficult position to maintain..
I for one welcomed the elevation of Lindsay Hoyle to Speaker as I'd had enough of the Berkow show with his partisan approach to stopping the government of the day doing anything he didn't like. Sir Lindsay promised not to be Berkow. He let the Labour whips push him around into breaking precedent to suit them as they knew they had a major split in their party about to be exposed for all to see. Such a split that may well have seen the downfall of Starmer.
Instead, out of his inability to stand up to them & for the precedents which he promised to uphold (even after a warning from the clerk of the house) he's saved Starmer's bacon at the cost of his own. He will I'm afraid have to stand down. This is unaccaptable behavior from a supposed independent speaker - looking after his former party...
And his wittering involving possible phone calls iro murdered colleagues was simply a smokescreen for his unacceptable lifting out of the mire of Starmer! The place stinks already if he stays it will be that much worse. As for members feeling endangered, don't we all after the incompetents, all of them, have allowed into this country, our country, 0.75million (and still counting) undesirables. The 'members' damned well should be frightened, of the legitimate electorate!
Sack starmer as well
why do you ask questions Julia? You just answer them yourself.
Question, why does the news lady not ever let other people get a complete sentence in?
Julia never shuts up
Did these idiots think they would get away with this utter disgusting try on. If they didn’t see this coming they need to leave any position of authority. If they did then equally they should both be shamed out of positions. Labour have shown why they are unfit for office. Vote Reform and get some sense back .
Great to see the natives making their contribution towards cultural enrichment in the uk 😂
Julia , luvvy , I do quite like your channel but why have guests on when you keep butting in and do most of the talking !😮😮😮
Yes rather like Kevin O'Sullivan and his long winded, word salad questions.
Neither Starmer nor Hoyle are fit to serve the British people.
Sunak should resign he still hasn't apologised for mocking transgender people with Briannas mother in the House. The truth of it is that SNP and Conservative hypocrites are using the Gaza tragedy to try to get Labour infighting and gain votes at the next election. We know what you're up to so don't feign outrage.
Why the hell are our politicians even spending time debating this? There are much more serious things happening in this invaded country of ours that actually do have a bearing on this country. We all know that when politicians 'debate' anything they basically act like five-year-olds having a hissy-fit in school, but still. deal with issues that are happening in our own country. We really should have a vote of no confidence in our politicians.
"in this invaded country of ours" exactly but then you imported the problem, Now what ?
The biggest invadors looters colonists in history are complaining about "invaded" maybe if u stop provoking wars in iraq syria lebya palestine Afghanistan then you won't be invaded
@@rayneethling7809Who imported this problem? Not the general populace. NOW WHAT ..Sit on the fence society , pass the buck.
Question: What are they so scared of? Or is that who are they so scared of. Where are the police force, or need be, the army?
Exactly. They are scared of the terrorists that they have allowed into the UK.
Now they discover what its like for the peasants, and to a certain extent my view is serves them right.
It's a tough lesson.
It's also very easy to fix. Just a simple change to the tax code solves the initial problem. Minimum £38,500 tax code.
Second a list of safe countries. No asylum from safe countries. Countries that move from dangerous to safe, then you get a grace period, and you're tax code changes. If you can afford to stay, no problem. If you can't you have to leave.
And no recourse to public funds for migrants. ie. No housing benefit, welfare of any sort.
Economic migrants will make their own mind up.
They are scared of Israel. This country is under occupation
Who says integration doesn't work.
WHO let these Terrorists in.? it wasn't Me
We need to deal with the real issue ..
The Speaker was merely showing his loyalty to Sir Keir in hopes of maintaining Sir Keir's blessing. Not a bad idea to get on the Sir Keir wagon early on if you want to stay in politics.
Its worked out good for the tories , they'll love this.
That's how thick the SNP house leader is!
I think this shows the danger of Starmer image what this man will do with a substantial majority I personally don’t care if MPs are scared as a child you are taught stand up to bully’s weather that be Starmer or extremism’s in your constituency
When is the debate about potholes or anything that affects us?
I love that they skirt around WHY these MPs feel so endangered.
Hartley-Brewer: let your contributors speak.
If parliament and MP's don't delve into forign afairs? They wont be threatened,by ethnic culture! Stick to British problems? And if you hurry up and clear the books? By beginning to deport deviants? The problems and threats will start to decrease and de- escalate,on a daily basis?
Concentrate on local problems? Not problems in other parts of the world.
Interesting an interviewer who can't let her guest speak I won't be watching again
The motion should now be nullifyd and rejected? And Lindsay Hoil , should step down from his position,as speaker of the house? Theirs a time and place for everything? We have enough problems in the UK? Without worrying about
other countries? British parliament for British problems?
Hoyle has just made it even MORE dangerous for EVERYONE!!!!
MOB RULES!
JUST STOP HOYLE🤣
🤣I'm 'hoyling' with laughter at that one. I quite like old Speaker Long Face though, especially when he goes beetroot coloured purple yelling at an 'honourable member' to 'Shut oop'!
A big lol from me!
The sick thing is that they are bending over backwards for the people who wish them violence
Nobody going to mention that OUR Parliament is more concerned about citizens of foreign nations thousands of miles away than citizens of OUR country?
There all bloody bent
Everyone is, some more obviously than others.
Out -out- and take slimeball stammer with you
Pigs may fly - Alicia's humour is so so fine - Cud their be a Tory SNP pact as Sunak is a woke lefty brino anti-brexit rejoiner
Please NO. No pact with the Tories and SNP. The SNP are corrupt, single minded, self centred egomaniacs.... oh wait did I just describe the Tories as well?
This about sums the political situation in UK more interested in a country ,2000 miles away yet UK people are treated and exploited in favour of the invasion of illegals British need to rise up against this disgraceful situation
Safety of MPs from all the safe immigrants????
I really wish Julia would let her guests finish a sentence occasionally.
REFORM UK
PEOPLE FFS VOTE REFORM !!
This is brilliant entertainment 👏
Why is the House of Commons even debating this? It's not within the UK government power or remit to deliver on this. The UK has no jurisdiction over what happens in Israel or Gaza. This is a nonsense.
I says a lot about the situation we are in when people have to be concerned about Islamic mobs and how they act when there's something they don't like.
Where have you got that from??? They are all terrified of Israel
@@ClactonCuun where have I got that from? All the marches and news of how Muslims are intimidating others, teachers have to go into hiding for having a picture, they are so quick to call for violence, Isreal has nothing to do with that.
Shouldn't worry too much as if they get thier way most of Palestine will be here soon enough
A honest man in a den of vipers!
Time we move our parliament out of multicultural London to keep our democracy safe
The chaos shows that the fear of extremists reigns in England and much of the Western world. Prince William’s words also shows that same fear. The West needs to be more like Israel. I find it interesting that wokism and this fear go hand-in-hand.
MPs have forgotten they are supposed to be representing the people that put them there how can you ever vote Tory or labour or the idiot in the Green Party again a massive change is needed
I wish Ms Hartly-Brewer would stop inerupting/steering guests who are trying to answer here questions.
Starmer cannot control his party, what the feck will happen to this country if he gets into No.10 ?
Anyone else find it disgusting that of the 3 whole days the Scottish government get to bring the woes of Scotland to London they used an entire day discussing something on the other side
Of the world that the UK isn’t even involved in.
Very good point. And one of those other days will be spent debating the reformulation of Irn-Bru.......
So starters says I put pressure on him him 😮but definitely didn’t threaten him 😮that’s ok then 🙄
Bullying in the workplace.
As the police do not seem to be able to control these extremist mobs isn’t it time to bring in the Army !! …
The Army aren't Police, thank you.
Well if it continues maybe the majority of us will have to tell them to do their jobs and clear these foreign protests off our streets .
Police can harass women
Speaker wants to meet conveniently behind closed doors when proper disclosure of all that happened needed.
What right has UK to dictate Israel what to do?
Mr speaker must stand down now
Well done Lindsay. FFS
If, in fact, the Speaker made this ruling in response to threats from pro-Gaza activists, that's even worse.
The threats politicians get from the Jewish lobby are bigger and greater than any threat from pro Palestinians
Who is running this country MP's or Islamic mobs?
Neither. It’s the Small Hats
@@ClactonCuunParty hats? Clowns? Do tell?!!!
They are showing us the mechanism required if you want to get your interests represented.
Sooner or later the true British people will stand up.
Islam must be kept happy
Has anything changed in Gazza?
Just read some of the comments, and most comments made on the TUPE are similar and point towards very few having a true and proper handle on what is going down. Or even the influences they are under in bringing them there.
He needs to go. Appalling behaviour and conduct by a speaker. Deliberately interfered with our democracy in order to favour the Labour Party and keep Starmer in his job.
Shocking.
And not a jot about the things happening in this country. SMH.
We have become a banana republic. And this is just the beginning 😢
I quite like old Speaker Long Face though, especially when he goes beetroot coloured purple yelling at an 'honourable member' to 'Shut oop'! in his broad Lancashire accent.
Stop interrupting, Julia.
When Lindsay Hoyle announced he was upending convention, he gave two to reasons as to why and neither were 'safety concerns.' That reason was only given after the wheels came off.
Dont trust starmer
Remember folks, they got rid of Boris for having a Babycham at his desk.
So they didn’t wanna talk about immigration
They didn’t want to talk about cost of living?
They didn’t wanna talk about Islamists
Didn’t they didn’t want to talk about the housing crisis?
Didn’t wanna talk about the recession?
They didn’t want to talk about the police
They wanted to talk about countries that I’ve been fighting for years as if they would be able to do something about it, 🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️😡
Just Stop Hoyle.
I'd you're going to explain for five-year olds 24 hours after it all happened then I'll stop listening
They need to immediately investigate what kind of threats swayed Hoyle. What threats to MPs’ safety were made? We can’t have threats dictating how we exercise democracy
Agreed - immediate public enquiry with Hoyle under oath!
Bring back Berco. Nooooooooooooooooooo
What was the point of having the political editor on and not letting her speak when you talked over everything she was trying to say?
Gerrymandering. SNP Jerry who?
In conclusion - Labour threw Democracy under the bus to save face.
Julia please leave this girl to explain as you are confusing the issue. I now cannot grasp the situation. Please Julia let us respect the oppositions SNP thoughts on ceasefire even if you do not agree.
Hoyle must Resign IMMEDIATELY or be removed !!
It's got to be a national security issue? What's chappy doing ?
Really, and please tell this lady's manager to raise the funds to change this red dress
Honestly, the Labour party falling apart and splitting the Islamosocialists from the actual liberals would be a best case scenario.
Are they any other WEF muppets that are lurking in Westminster's closet that we should all know about???
If they’re that worried about them piss off over there and fight for them instead of just mouthing off over here
MP's complaining about safety after letting in millions of rabid dogs is THE most hilarious thing I've ever seen.
BS HOYLE
Bring back Bercow !!
Just another bent politician
The demonstrators outside the UK Parliament are 'cowards', because if they were brave, they would be in the part of the world they are protesting about, living their dislocation,. Yet this does not shock or worry me as cowards, however intimidating, are cowards, as all bullies are. What I'm shocked and worried for is our UK democracy. Our voted MP representatives, for the first time in the history of the Mother of all parliaments, claim fear, or use fear as reasoning for what happened in Parliament effecting a vote. That would mean the UK parliament has become cowardly, yet that is not true, as most MP's and Government Ministers are brave. Then surely it can only mean one thing, if not cowardly, which is subversion took place. Subversion of UK democracy, which in old wording is treason, which is the only other explanation of certain individuals reported actions. The Speaker, Deputy Speaker, Leader of the Opposition and a few others directly involved in this subversion, need to resign or be removed for the integrity of our sovereignty as a nation. All in the UK should have the freedom of expression, regardless of agreeing or disagreeing, with views expressed, especially our MP's inside Parliament. This was as sad a day in the UK, as was the storming of the United States Capitol attack in the USA. Labour has permanently lost my vote forever.
the demonstrators were there to put pressure on parliament for a ceasefire - to end the slaughtering of civilians . Not cowards but people who feel deeply stricken with what is unfolding and want something done about it .Protest is important for all sides of the political field
Time to change the Hoyle.
Why are these mp,s even discussing this tripe, far more important issues ongoing and debating some third world problem 2000 miles away has FA to do with us.