House of Commons chaos and confusion over Gaza ceasefire vote
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- The Speaker is at the centre of a huge row in the Commons after he was accused of helping Labour "hijack" a Scottish National Party debate calling for an immediate ceasefire in Gaza, to avoid a backbench rebellion.
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Sir Lindsay Hoyle overturned the rules to allow Labour to have a vote on their own motion. But there was chaos and fury when a last minute decision by the Government to withdraw their own amendment took away the SNP's ability to vote on their own motion at all. Our Political Editor Gary Gibbon is live at Westminster.
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Its a House of criminals, not commoners.
*commons
Same thing really.
@harleyb7880 What do you imagine commons refers to? It's the house of the commoner, as opposed to royals and lords.
no one is stopping you from running mate
@@tjmarx
But you can still use the correct name
If Labour MP's were under physical threat, that's a matter for MI5 or the police, not the Speaker.
Security is the go to excuse for quashing democracy.
Why are they under physical threat? What does that say about these "constituents", what religious demographic are these constituents? And are these the same people who back proscribed terrorist groups?
So essentially these "constituents " have influenced a speaker of the parliament now....is this how much sway these people have now? Wow....and people want to still vote Labour just because RS is a brown Indian man? Yet they can't see that KS is pushing through what Labour constituents want whose sole aim is to push their Muslim agenda in the middle east??
Yeah that's insanity.
They faced loosing their seats- not physical violence. The lies this coward is spreading
What has this to motions and opposition?
The Houses of Corruption.
'the expenses scandal is behind us now'
There's corruption everywhere. Like BDS, for example.
What an embarrassment the UK has become.
This country resembles a 3rd Rate Banana Republic.
@@RichardVassiethe ‘banana republics’ have actually grown their economies tenfold, many of whom are developing faster and certainly faster than us. We will soon be the banana republic while they become the first world 🤣
And we vote for these childish people??? And pay there wages?
Childish? That just about sums up your spelling.
They're there in their lair.
@@nick1065 Their as apposed to there.. hmmm.
their...
You vote for the party as these corrupt represent the party and it's donors and the rich ..... Ahhh and the pro ezreel control political parties as we just found out this past few months .....
Thank you channel 4 for actually explaining what has happened today!
They didn’t . That is complete horse manure!
They didn't explain 4 hours of deeply important information about saving lives in Gaza. It's philibustering on both sides and absolutely sidelining regional parties.
They didn't, all they've done is let the SNP talk rubbish!
@@lindarose7475 Israel's reaction to any of the possible outcomes would be the same - they would utterly ignore it as irrelevant
@@davidioanhedgesexactly Israel don't give a fu..!!
Hoyle has always had that supply teacher energy.
😂
Are you not being a tad generous ?
Fax. History before lunch.
I can't understand him. He talks like he has 3 tongues in his mouth.
_"supply teacher energy"_ 🤣💀
Hoyle was clearly out of his depth years ago, this is the biggest nail in his coffin now surely.
The problem is this is his first offense the previous speaker had all sort of claims against him
@@ANGEL_BOB_YT What were those?
I think he did the right thing. He was trying to get cross party consensus on something that shouldn't be party political.
The way the SNP behaved was disgraceful. They threw a tantrum over something that was perfectly reasonable and was more likely to result in a ceasefire motion being passed.
@@barnigranero5882are you out of your mind? the speaker was trying to prevent Starmer from an emberassing rebellion, and now it will cost him his speakership
Don't blame him, blame Labour party for sabotaging SNP proposal to keep pro ezreel happy with their shyte proposal .....
Because two English parties wanted to have their way in the SNP’s opposition day the Scottish voice get quashed. That is how it works. Only English voices matter in parliament and this is clear to see.
It had nothing to do with Scotlands voice not been heard. Of course the SNP will spin it like that because grievance is the only tool they have in the cupboard. This was all about the Speaker getting his mate off the hook.
Why did the conservatives even have one, are they in opposition to themselves?
SNP is not Scotland, nor is the House of Commons divided up in that way. Conservative Leader of the house agreed with SNP . Seems English voices are in union with SNP voices.
Maybe it's too nuanced and important and issue to allow one party to word a bill. Labour would've had no choice but to vote against a bill that didn't acknowledge the suffering of one side of the conflict, and the bill wouldn't have passed. Having intervened, the ceasefire bill did pass. The SNP should be happy .... if this was just about a ceasefire.....
It is truly shameful. As an English person I have never been more disgusted and angry at the government. The disrespect shown to the SNP is infuriating and embarrassing.
It's shocking how out of touch MPs and their parties are with reality and with the public.
That's British democracy.
@@kurtgodel5236 it's not very democratic this democracy thing... Reminds me of a phrase from the book animal farm..
"We are all equal, but some are more equal than others"
@BillyBullshitter Step out of line and they put the jack boots on.
@@ianmangham4570 I'm certain they do.
@@seang2700 and no accountability
Meanwhile 1 in 80 people have been killed
ref - 30k people are dead, 60k injured, out of 2.4m people in Gaza.
Not our war
Pure theatre. This was the intended outcome all along.
Chaos isn’t chaos for those that engineered it i guess.
I felt that too...
One could see this conspiracy a mile away. Totally engineered.
Sometimes a cluster**** is just a cluster****.
Not from the SNP, they have been desperate to have a real and genuine ceasefire to save lives. It was scuppered in favour of continuation of genocide. This was engineered by Starmer's zionism.
No faith in politics. This is outrageous.
Politics is to divide the people not to solve problems
@@jimtomo9207 So, let's have anarchy?
It's amazing to think we have got this far with these kind of people running the show,
You haven't lol, the people who built your great nation were not these fools.
@@parsifal40From what we know of them, they really weren't that different.
Point is my friend we have not got far at all , our democracy is on lift support and this was a not very subtle attempt by leftists and their islamist mates to finally break into our democracy proper and not just via the education system, media etc etc. Sad fact is not enough people are seeing how dangerous this all is as their too busy trying to keep a roof over their head . As a recently retired ex professional person I have seen this great nation rise and fall and at present it is doing the latter big time.
@@django3422 Revisionism. Too many great men have been painted in a bad light. You have been taught biased bullshit.
The worst part is that the British public will STILL vote for either Labour or Conservatives in the next election. We deserve everything we get...
Doesn't really matter though. British foreign policy is made in Washington not Westminster
And American foreign policy is made in Tel Aviv.
@@SG-gq2rfand Israel foreign policy is made in the tunnels of Gaza and the mansions of Qatar
They are all just Tel Aviv sock puppets
Except this had nothing to do with the Government or its Foreign Policy. What part of 'An Opposition Day Motion' are you struggling to understand?
@@1chish And you don't think that basically the incumbent PM avoiding a rebellion in his party over the Israel Palestine by the Speaker braking long standing convention has anything to do with UK foreign policy?? Some can't see their hand in front of their face... I can, I'm facepalming 🤦♂
Gaza is being razed to the ground. The Commons should erupt into chaos about that. But no, the passion is about procedural stuff in the House: about Hoyle having to "fess up", about some parties not getting enough of a say. Sad state of a democracy that cares more about structures than values.😔
Bring the palestinians to britain as refugees then. Throw wide the doors and import them wholesale. You won't do it though. Like every other country, you don't dare. You prefer them to be someone elses problem
That's not what it was about at all, although I can see how from CH4s coverage you might have come to that conclusion. The outrage was over splitting the vote which is actually incredibly harmful to democracy.
There was originally 1 bill to be voted on. Yes or No.
Then the speaker said, well actually what we'll do is we'll change that into 2 versions of the same bill with slightly different wording in parts that impacts the material outcome.
Then the government said that isn't fair we should have our version too then and the speaker said ok we'll have 3 versions of the same bill with slightly different wording that impacts the material outcome.
So now instead of voting yes/no on a bill, they have a selection of wordings to vote for instead meaning it's less likely anything passes which is why the government and SNP withdrew.
Imagine if the budget was up for debate and instead of saying ok vote yes/no to the budget he said actually let's have 3 different versions of the budget where each party gets it to be the way they want it and we'll vote on that. That would undermine the role of government and the cornerstone principles of democracy. He's done exactly that here on this ceasefire bill and done so as a political favour to one party over all others.
That is serious corruption in the house that every Brit should be outraged about.
God you summed it up for that is the case in my country Kuwait also. Parliament cares more for structures rather than rights & duties.
Mate the “democracy” cares only for profit as that’s what the monetary system implores. There’s no profit in peace.
@@tjmarx very well explained, well done
But people want a cease fire!
Speak for yourself
And how the actual f*ck do you think that's gonna go down
UK: we want a ceasefire. Can you please stop bombing gaza?
Irseal: No
The end
The amount of idiots that actually believe voting on another country's foreign policy will change anything is astonishing and utterly arrogant.
What a circus
And everybody forgot to wear their clown makeup that day.
If the rules dont work for you, just change them...Utter corruption
Democracy if something is archaic and inhibits debate then it’s not fit for purpose.
@@ciaranbrkit doesn't.
The SNP are entitle to their say.
Jullianshepherd
And they will !!!
It's not a rule, just a convention! Try learning something before stating your 'facts'
@@julianshepherd2038 they had their say
It is NOT the role of the speaker to prevent Labour rebellions, which is CLEARLY what motivated his actions.
No that is not clearly why
Not quite -Hoyle’s master is I£rael
@@Angela-kc5ui The motion passed, the amendment passed - You think that's what Israel wanted?
Undue pressure from Starmer and his handlers.
@@Angela-kc5ui another Corbyn voter heard from
Isn’t he supposed to be neutral?
Far too little, and far too late. This isn't the first time Hoyle has dissed the SNP and Scotlands representatives in this kind of way!!! ime for Scotland to say goodbye to this useless Union and Westminster for good!!!
Take northern England with you please 😂
"The peoples Republic of Northumberland" 😅
I just do not recognize Britain anymore... 😐😐😑
It's the Islamic Caliphate of Britanistan now
As my mum used to say, I want my England back.
@@TestGearJunkie.we need to stop voting for the two big parties, they are corrupt to the core. The establishment hate the Green Party and it’s because they don’t control them. It’s parties like those, independent and honest who care about this country, the land and the people, who deserve my vote.
And the academy award goes to The house for avoiding a vote on cease-fire
We can vote on a ceasefire but what is that going to do?
Israel will just ignore it anyway, so why are we debating and voting on pointless actions...
We must stop the Jews!
as if the outcome will make the least bit of difference
If Labour MPs feel threatened by people in their own constituencies they have two choices.
Be Brave, or resign their well paid jobs with handsome benefits and allow someone with more conviction to be one of the elected representatives of the British Government.
Hoyle should be removed.
@@user-hx8lw8pu1f Except this was Labour not the Tories manipulating Hoyle and getting the change of procedure THEY wanted to suit their internal politics.
It is absolutely partisan because the Tories had nothing to do with any of this. Indeed the reclused themselves after Hoyle's disastrous decision.
Why are they under physical threat? What does that say about these "constituents", what religious demographic are these constituents? And are these the same people who back proscribed terrorist groups?
So essentially these "constituents " have influenced a speaker of the parliament now....is this how much sway these people have now? Wow....and people want to still vote Labour just because RS is a brown Indian man? Yet they can't see that KS is pushing through what Labour constituents want whose sole aim is to push their Muslim agenda in the middle east??
If they feel threatened they should go to the police. The public should not threaten MPs. What has the UK become?
If it's a criminal matter then the relevent crime authorities should handle it. What a mess.
@@user-hx8lw8pu1f Nothing wrong with meeting Speaker. I never said there was but nice try. Its what is said and done AT that meeting that matters. Starmer has admitted he 'urged' (for which read as you wish but I call it blackmailed) Speaker to change the rules and allow the Labour Amendment. Speaker has admitted he did so and it was a mistake and apologised.
Thats it all in a simple statement. Facts.
You are trying to attach intentions to the SNP that you cannot prove nor justify. But the fact remains this was THEIR day and Labour hijacked it for their own internal reasons.
That convention would be the Bain convention. Labour won't vote for ANY SNP motion. Hoyle bent the knee to Starmer. Allowing Labour to effectively highjack an SNP Opposition days motion. Upsetting all of the smaller parties interests and ability to effect legislation.
What a waste of time and money, do we really need politicians, they no longer represent or serve us
its like watching lord of the flies
we need less than half of them, they lie when they say they work hard and are 'a special kind of person'. Think how many dentists could be trained and employed with the monies saved by having 400 fewer MPs.
That petition website said they rejected petition calling for Lindsay to resign because they don't do petition's for that for some reason. I wonder why
If Labour MPs felt their was a threat from their constituents then they have a bigger problem than they know.
His Israeli/Palestine war has brought a lot of division in many countries.
@@margaretzoheir4468 his, who is him?
Well, two MPs murdered in the last decade....
Both the Conservatives and SNP are more concerned with losing their seats in the next election, than anyone in Labour
Do you have security in the UK to protect parliamentarians from intimidation? You can't have the rabble prevail.
Stop war now
Tell Hamas and Iran.
Release the hostages and surrender. The war stops now. But unlike you and your ilk, Hamas don't care.
I tell Hamás,irán & Israel USA ordinary civil citizens are just victims of the global geopolitical interests
It was an SNP opposition day not Labours do you not understand
whatever motives you, or Labour, or the speaker assign to the SNP motion are irrelevant - SNP opposition day means SNP opposition day, PERIOD
@@user-hx8lw8pu1fIt is NOT the role of the speaker to prevent Labour rebellions.
The snp, unlike Labour, have been right on this issue for months, so I know who I'd trust on this.
@@user-hx8lw8pu1fThe SNP’s position on Gaza has been clear and consistent since at least November. Hoyle helped Starmer out of a huge hole by ignoring usual procedure and the advice of his own staff to fix things so many Labour MPs did not have the chance to vote for the SNP motion. He needs to go.
@@user-hx8lw8pu1fOh get to! The SNP have been calling for a ceasefire from the start, meanwhile Labour clutched its pearls on her fence.
The Speaker changed the rules in the middle of the game. Regardless of anything, he must go. Frankly, a Speaker referring to MPs as "players" is telling. The governance of the country is not "a game."
And yes, I am aware of the irony.
Hoyle is a disgrace, demand his resignation
Here Here!
Labour is new tory
Speaker done what's he told to do
Utterly shameful. All this nonsense going on while the genocide is continuing in Gaza. It's also shameful that the speaker of the house is taking the side of the Labour Party. He should be removed from his position immediately.
Bottom line is it was the right thing for Israel...the Speaker did not want a vote calling for a cease fire without amendments...the skullduggery by Mr Starmer...
".... skullduggery .."
THIS is exactly what we can expect
from a Sir KS as PM....a
Labour Government !
We do need a cease fire
What the speaker "wants" is strictly not relevant
I despise Sir KS....in my e-mail to him, on Monday, I TOLD him so !
The FIRST Leader of a British Political Party, "turning his back" on
The State of Israel... since
1917 The Balfour Declaration.
He wanted to bring SHAME DOWN on OUR Nation.
Keir starver
Clearly under the influence of alcohol
😂😂😂😂😂😂
So basically the speaker blocked a vote for an “immediate ceasefire” and instead forced the vote to be about “humanitarian pause” or no, so that a resolution calling for an “immediate ceasefire” could not see the day of light. How about let MPs vote on each, or between both?
UK corrupt government remember
Almost, it it was an "immediate humanitarian ceasefire" from labour, a "humanitarian pause" from the government, and a "immediate cesefire" from the snp
Whats it got to do with us? Nothing. We just shelled out £35 billion on illegals. And thats ramping up to £200 billion when Labour get in.
No what happened was that the SNP want a wedge issue to use against Labour, so they called for an Imediate cease fire knowing it wouldn’t save any hostages andand wouldn’t last longer than it the vote on the motion itself.
Labour said we should amend the motion so it A) call for some sort of break to help the civilians AND B) calls for a meditated resolution to the war.
Its beyond pathetic that we even entertain this silliness. We have enough to contend with at home with our once great nation being invaded by illegal immigrants, the left being the left are being used as whores by the islamasists who would do us harm. I 'm ashamed to say that the speaker was treated like and behaved like a fool. This issue has NOTHING to do with the British people (the real British People not those who would invade our nation to get what they can ) at this level. Debate it sure, but NOT in our houses of parliament for political ends when there is so much that should be taking their time 'at home'.
From BBC Newsnight political editor, Nicholas Watt: "Senior Labour figures tell me @CommonsSpeaker was left in no doubt that Labour would bring him down after the General Election unless he called Labour’s Gaza amendment."
There is no process for removing the Speaker ...
If Labour MPs are being threatened then the police need to do their job. Complying with threats is giving in to terrorism. And we all know what demographic these threats are coming from
Jo Cox RIP
David Amess RIP
Victims of two very different demographics.
The threats are coming from the Zionist lobby
Shameful behaviour by the speaker today. He should resign.
The speaker this to please isreal, he did not want the ceasefire
Hoyle is so weak
@@user-hx8lw8pu1fit is nothing to do with us
@@crustywinnets263 exactly, we can't even launch fireworks
Listen the speaker's behaviour has been atrocious.....but Starmer has a lot to answer for ....
I don't think you know what's what happened do you. All that happened was a third motion was added, now before a few hours ago I bet you didn't even know that you can only have 2 was a rule.
@@Alex-cw3rzThat isn't at all what happened.
@user-hx8lw8pu1f False. I am saying your assessment is not correct. I do not need special knowledge to know you have gotten it wrong.
What happened was the chair split the vote, which undermines democracy and is contrary to normal procedure. He did so in favour of one party over all others. That is corruption and every Brit should be outraged.
@user-hx8lw8pu1f Not sure why youtube deleted my reply. Came back to update it now there is new information.
To repeat what youtube deleted, I don't need special information to call your assessment false. That objectively isn't what happened and isn't what is being reported even here. The speaker split the vote.
The new revelation being reported on news night is that Starmer told Hoyle he wouldn't be voted back in by labour after the election if he didn't do what Starmer wanted.
Starmer would have lost his leadership if the vote hadn't been split. This is clear corruption and Starmer needs to go.
Starmer met with the speaker in private and then this happened. A window into the future of our democracy.
Terrifying...😢
He needs to go. 40% of the front bench have been paid by Israel.
YES - its very worrying - I dont want a Labour dictatorship any more than I want a Tory dictatorship.
@@piccalillipit9211 you usually leave good comments but I'm not so impressed by this one.
Neither labour or Tory are for the people. It’s a one horse race and they have 2 legs each.
We don’t have a democracy, it’s a sham. We have a uni party system that seems to be following orders from pretty much everyone bar the electorate. I would only vote independent in the next election, I’d be happy if we had a complete rethink on how this country is governed, nothing good will come from a mainstream party and I include Lib Dem and green in that.
How did we go from the brilliant Boothroyd to the 'I love hearing my own voice' Bercow and ended up with Hapless Hoyle. I'm off to the Bookies to put money on that big blonde clown Johnson taking over in the speaker's chair, then raising my independence banner ... SHAME!
Ah who doesnt love a good circus! The government's (in power and shadow) competence bodes so well for the country...
Labour showing its true colours for all to see and they are the same they have always been. Remember Starmer was the man manipulating a willing Bercow over the Brexit votes. They were prepared to manipulate the Speaker and the Speaker fell back into being a Labour MP and did Starmer a HUGE favour.
And brought The House into disrepute.
And Starmer is going to be the next Prime Minister 🤗🤗🤗.
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18. Jenin Refugee Camp April 2002
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24. The Gaza Genocide 2023 is still ongoing. Dont let anyone try to convince you that it started on October 7th,2023. Please share and let the new generation to know.
Nonsense (and fake). What is happening in Gaza now started on October 7th, not one day earlier. We are not stupid.
Aren't there a few massacres you're forgetting there?
An Arab Jordanian commander remarked: "For the first time in 1,000 years not a single Jew remains in the Jewish Quarter. Not a single building remains intact. This makes the Jews' return here impossible... 1948 West Bank
Another lovely bit of selective history.
I may have missed some.....this list is to help idiots that think the situation is complicated. Israel is a genocidal state that kills families to get land.@@FeathersMcGraw_
"I wont get into all that" 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
This is on Hoyle and labour. Disgusting
A vote of confidence in the Speaker is now tabled. Mind you, talk about a bunch of gutless wonders. If popular opinion is that dire, then you've lost the confidence of the electorate, so go.
First time ever, I agree with Penny Mourdant !
ceasefire now!!!
The British gov have no control over that - this debate was a complete waste of time. They should be focusing in British politics instead.
UK no more!
Sunak is apuppet of America and Israel while Britain is among great countries in the world who fight for democracy,human rights, freedom and equality.
Sunak? Starmer has literally said his position is whatever yankville say and is literally continuing to say that while he does exactly that. Starmer has no ideas, he waits for others to tell him what to do. He isn't a leader, he's a marionette. He needs to go.
Absolutely shameful. Free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
Free England 🏴
This is blatant anti-Scottish bigotry, doesn’t matter what we have to say. English voices will always be given priority.
So the government is so weak we now rule the nation by who is most violent ??? Challenge accepted.
You will do nothing.
The leader of the House of Commons did Israel a favor. Is he the leader of the Commons for the UK or Israel???
Maybe hes been bribed like the rest of em
@@summer5145
Kosher or bacon - money smells the same .
No one gives a penny about uk politics. It's just for show.
@@summer5145 Do you have any evidence for that, or are you just talking out of your ...?
@@kurtgodel5236she said "maybe". Only factual statements require evidence for substantiative purposes.
The SNP are going to lose all their seats in Westminster and this is them trying to redeem themselves! Sad!
Peddling lies like the usual 85 year old glasgow times reader 🤣
" STARMER " What a " Slime Ball "
😂😂😂the next pm
A lot of MP's and this speaker love the theatre of Parliament and see that aspect as more important than it's effectiveness to deliver democracy. But we have a lot of good MP's who need to be able to do their job and they simply cannot under its anachronistic, and outdated rules and procedures.
The UK parliament is simply no longer fit for purpose in our modern age, and it is becoming dangerous, an enemy to the future of this nation.
The great worry for me is, because it simply hasn't evolved gradually with the times, it's become so disfunctional, it's now incapable of modernising.
@@hectorcot597zionazi bot doing his master's bidding
it's been around for hundreds of years and survived tremendous moments of historical change but because lee johnson doesn't like it anymore we should get rid of it. thanks for the input, it's stupid
%100
Boy wait till you meet Palestinian democracy
@@bordedup546 whether I like it or not isn't the issue. How is it performing is the issue. Today we have seen more evidence of it not performing well.
DISGRACE!!! The speaker tried manipulating proceedings. That's our so-called democracy for you.
Labour did have a chance to vote for a ceasefire motion. But because that was from a Scottish voice the arrogance English nationalist Labour Party with the Tory with a different colour tie couldn’t accept that. It was more important to silence non English voices in what is supposed to be the Uk parliamentary. The speaker should resign immediately for denying the voice of the elected representatives from Scotland in what was the SNP opposition day . His choice was party political and designed to show that only the English voice matrers
@@user-hx8lw8pu1f so your saying on the SNP opposition day that to he SNP should ask permission from the English labour party on what motion that the SNP should put forward on SNPs opposition day.
If the right wing racist Tory government want to put an amendment to that motion then the convention has always been that the main opposition can't also add an amendment.
So could you please explain how this is the SNP playing games. This is a typical English arrogance expecting that the Scottish voice be quashed in order for English voice to forced upon us.
Can you explain what the addition of the word "humanitarian" did to the SNP's call for a ceasefire that was so egregious and worthy of such drama? Now no vote has taken place and there is no official UK call for ceasefire. Nationalists of all nations always get bogged down in petty nonsense meanwhile people are dying in their thousands in Gaza whilst you get upset about an extra word and claim your voice is being quashed. Get a sense of perspective. Everybody sucks here, Labour, Conservative, SNP and the speaker who couldn't run a stocking.
Such an important matter raised by the SNP blatantly quashed by the leader of the house to stop keir starmer from looking bad due to his inability to do the right thing. Really poor day for UK democracy and a stitch up for the SNP
i stand with israel against islamic terrorism.
Sit down
How many times have you posted this comment?!! You clearly need psychiatric help!
If they weren't invading and occupying someone else's home they wouldn't be suffering this. They wouldn't be under attack if they'd stayed in Europe, where they were safe and prosperous under the western alliance
Our UK government debating over terminology whilst nothing on the ground in Gaza changes in real time :/
Tell them to call the police if they get threats!!! They will probably get a better response than the ordinary people do when they call the police!! If the MP are worried about threats from their constituents they only have themselves to blame as they are the ones that let them in.
Distraction. All the world is a stage
All the drama to take away from the great crime of our age.
I just watched all the points of order made to the Deputy Speaker, and I recommend everyone here to look it up. 60 minutes of pure entertainment!
What happened here today had nothing to do with Democracy.
You're right it was an exercise in politics with the SNP & Cons conspiring to exploit a wedge issue, when the vote has no effect. The speaker is in trouble for allowing a vote on an amendment that Labour could vote for, but HMG simply ignores the whole debate furious that Starmer avoided a rebellion.
none of this matters, it has no bearing on the situation.
Starmer's 'thank you' wasn't audible on this vid.
Threat against MPs what an absolute pathetic excuse!
But I understand, is accurate.
It isn't the speaker's job to care about improving the chances that MPs win votes. It was shameful to break the rules to favour the political ambitions of Keir Starmer.
Shameful stuff, both Hoyle and Starmer should resign, both their positions are untelable.
😂😂
Keirs knows what happens to labour leaders who come out in defence of the Palestinians
They want people to step up and fight for the country? Fight for what - what exactly are our values?
They are playing games while people are dying
The whole thing's a game while people are dying.
What is Westminster's position on the conflict in the Middle East?
Approximately 3000 miles away.
Sir Lyndsay Hoyle, Sir Kier Starmer, it must feel reassuring to all you labour voters to be represented by your social superiors.
Meaning?
Many of us will never vote labour again. The party is unrecognisable, bunch of puppets and muppets
Our political class are inept.
Meanwhile, Friends of Israel (Labour & Conservative) are not.
THE WHOLE PLACE IS A SHITSHOW,.....
Politicians passing the time with a bit of Westminster play fighting just for a change.
How many times has Hoyle (and his deputy) helped the Conservatives?! Bring back Bercow.
Too mantimez to count . Bercow was a legend
Well spotted Stephen and I don't remember this debacle THEN! Steven Flynn is an absolute liar, he knew what he was doing
@@bereal6590 exactly, the current Conservatives are a bunch of bullying, ultra narcissistic, lying incompetent fools who don't take kindly to criticism or not getting their way 100% of the time! 99% is not enough for them. Flynn is a loose cannon who snipes from the sidelines. Easy to do that when you have no chance of being pm, and don't have to worry about showing some restrant and compromise at times.
If this doesn't become the most viral viewing content by tomorrow, I don't know what will.
The press is going to have a field day with this story tomorrow morning...
What a sad, hopeless, incompetent and weak individual Hoyle has been for so long. He is utterly useless.
All about Lobby money!
I can't pretend to know what this is all about, but politicians of all colours seem to be exercised about the value of their vote and
Feeling very disenfranchised. Well, join the majority of us in the country!!
Look at Sunak and Starmer. For all the pretence in teh chamber they are all friends
Get rid now! My faith in politics is dead. I won’t be voting ever again.
“Waste” your vote on the greens, it’s better than nothing.
what would Cromwell do at a time like this a wonder
@@kopynd1 haha classic cheered me up brother x
VOTE FOR REFORM UK 🇬🇧 PEOPLES PARTY
@@andrewhubbard4044 That party is compromised just as much as labour, the only people who follow them are geriatric imbeciles with a distorted sense of the past.
Disgraceful
Absolute storm in a teacup. Where was the outrage when the Tories pissed all over parliamentary procedure several times during Covid.
Shame on you Mr Speaker / Labour.
Not a great day for UK Parliament
Hoyle basically f×ucked up.
What on earth makes Channel 4 think it’s ok to overlay UK political debate over the ruins of Gaza. Distasteful.
Yeah, that was weird.
He has to go