Procedure Turn - When Do You Have to Do It??

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Image that you're on a long inbound leg on the ILS. There's a procedure turn! Do you have to fly it? The answer is "it depends". Watch for the details.

[@FoxVictorBravo]

Thanks for the video. Here's an acronym that helps remember when a PT is not required: SHARPT = Straight-in, Holding in lieu of a PT, Arc (DME Arc), Radar Vectors, NoPT, Timed approach from a holding fix.

[@permacultureman]

Thanks for your great explanation.

[@bgfglobal2414]

Thanks for that awesome clarification

[@tonycadavidhernandez8505]

Concrete and clear... awesome wrap up with the DC3!!

[@davidgoldman4530]

Great explanation. Thank you.

[@jakew9887]

Great Video. Thanks.

[@abbieamavi]

*so helpful, thank you!!! Quick and perfectly explained for easy understanding.* 🤙😄

[@FMartz]

I’ve seen you comment in a bunch of different instruments videos lol!!

[@GWOSAPAT]

Thanks

[@huggksn4787]

Thanks so much, best information in short time

[@Sophia-kc4vs]

One more to add. If you are doing a teardrop course reversal and don't need to do a procedure turn. SHARPTT

[@joealex04041]

impressived

[@low_flying_aircraft9309]

Thank you!

[@DrHorseonduty]

Good lesson. S.H.A.R.P.T.T is how I remember Aim5-4-9.
S - Straight in approach
H - Holding in lieu of a procedure turn
A - Arc
R - Radar vectored to final app course
P - NoPT depicted on chart
T - Timed approach
T - Teardrop course reversal

[@bernardanderson7569]

Thank you for your time and are you available for Instrument Ground school? I'm always talking notes to share with my instructor about this on Procedure turns

[@GoldSealFlight]

Hello Bernard. Thanks for the question. We do have an Instrument test prep program at www.GoldMethod.com.

[@Sky_Burger88]

Thank you for another excellent video. I earned my private pilot license last summer but I still have questions about turns. Is there an instructional video on doing a one minute turn/one rate turn/standard rate turn? For example if you not instrument rated and you inadvertently fly into IMC you want to do a 180 turn to head back to VMC. The one minute turn/standard rate turn is required, correct? Is there a video that demonstrates this?

[@ethanhiggins4887]

There are no requirements for how to exit IMC, just recommendations for how to do it safely. The easiest way in my opinion is to do a standard rate turn (3 deg per second). This ensures a quick but smooth turn and makes it easier to maintain level flight. Standard rate can be identified by two thick lines towards the top of your turn coordinator. If you are in a coordinated turn and the miniature airplane is lined up with that line then you would complete a 180 degree turn in 1 minute.

[@kflightdispatcher]

Could I ask which point is the first altitude for procedure turn? Thanks.

[@joshtocko1274]

please elaborate on the "cleared straight in" never encountered it before. If you are cleared you dont need to do a PT. "123 maintain 3K until established on the final approach course, cleared for the Ils 05"

[@tyler.donati]

Josh Tocko yeah it’s included in the “radar vectors” option. It’s radar vectors...to final. Cleared straight in isn’t really a thing. Straight in is the opposite of a circling approach (>30 degrees from runway heading) and shouldn’t be used in this case.

[@jtkent28]

Yeah I don’t think I’ve really ever heard ATC say “cleared straight in” before. I’ve had ATC ask if I’d like to fly the “full approach” in which case I’ll be flying outbound then making a procedure turn inbound, but as I’ve understood it “cleared for the __ approach runway __ “ has seemed to mean straight in.

[@GoldSealFlight]

Yep, it is a thing and does occur. See the Instrument Procedures Handbook.

[@MedMikeHawk]

I was NNW of Minot Int (KMOT), heading SE (don’t remember specific heading) on vectors for ILS Rwy 31 at KMOT. I was several miles almost parallel, kind of on a right downwind to the inbound course for 31. Approach issued: Proceed direct HEKTA, join the LOC, clear ILS Rwy 31 approach. If you picture my location relative to HEKTA, I couldn’t join the LOC without executing the PT for reversal. I politely ask to fly one turn on the PT, to which his answer was Stand-by. I was IMC and thinking he was expecting me to make that crazy turn to join the LOC. He replied to proceed as requested which confirmed he was not expecting me to use the PT to reverse course to have a normal join to LOC. I found some inconsistencies on the clearance, however, as stated here I asked.

[@pboothus]

How about the VOR RWY 34 approach, coming from the IAF? @KWLW I guess yes, unless they tell you not to?

[@HeinzMcDurgen]

Looking at the plate, I'm not sure what your question is. You'd fly to the IAF and then inbound.

[@NatapixAS]

This video could have been a little bit better, with a little sketch/animation of the airplane flying over the App. plate for the different examples.