GT Sport A Basic Guide To Brake Bias - Top Tips Part 2

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  • @ScottMansfield
    @ScottMansfield 5 років тому +74

    I know this is an old vid but this summary might help:
    Gr.4
    Gr.4 - MR - Prefer rear (+2) (Kie25, 0 to +3)
    Gr.4 - FR - Prefer rear (Kie25, +2 to +4)
    Gr.4 - 4WD - Prefer rear (Kie25, +5)
    Gr.4 - FF - Prefer rear (+5) (Kie25, +5)
    Gr.3
    Gr.3 - MR - Prefer front (Kie25, -1 to -3)
    Gr.3 - FR - Prefer rear (Kie25, +1 to +3)

    • @jamez2fly92
      @jamez2fly92 4 роки тому +3

      Thanks appreciate that just got the game since it was only $10 wish I got in a long time ago. Not as bad as people complain and say it is

    • @hitclipsshorts
      @hitclipsshorts 4 роки тому

      Scott Mansfield i dont get Kie25.... what is that?

    • @ilirx1509
      @ilirx1509 4 роки тому +2

      DV Kie25 is the name of the dude that made the video... it’s his preferences

    • @alexmarie960
      @alexmarie960 4 роки тому +1

      Awesome thank you, was about to get the notepad out 🤘🤘

    • @Sir.Craze-
      @Sir.Craze- 4 роки тому

      Not going to work with tire ware btw guys. Also 8 feel 5 on anything is extremely excessive but that's just me

  • @slimrenalsimracing-gaming6558
    @slimrenalsimracing-gaming6558 3 роки тому +2

    Great Video! 2 years later & still relevant!

  • @savage_han
    @savage_han 4 роки тому +1

    Super helpful! Thank you. I improved my lap time on nurbergring by almost a second

  • @nickhemsley5577
    @nickhemsley5577 6 років тому +6

    Great video kie. It brings to light the importance of brake bias,not only for balance but for tyre wear. I believe this will help alot of people. Great stuff 👌👍

  • @Quazi-Moto
    @Quazi-Moto 2 роки тому +1

    Much needed explainer for me. Many, MANY thanks for this!

  • @twc621
    @twc621 Рік тому

    Thankyou. I needed this with gt7 consistently including brake bias now.

  • @x-tremegt860
    @x-tremegt860 3 роки тому +2

    This video is extremely helpful. Thank you kie :)

    • @thekie25
      @thekie25  3 роки тому +1

      Glad it was helpful!

  • @roseben5737
    @roseben5737 2 роки тому +1

    Wish id seen this video years ago, great info Kie even if its an old video.

  • @AwesomeBob
    @AwesomeBob 4 роки тому +2

    Reporting back, this has been incredibly helpful for me recently! I've become much more aware of how gradual and when I release the brake pedal and how it affects the rotation of various chassis with different brake bias settings. Thanks for putting this together! :)

  • @marcw.5492
    @marcw.5492 3 роки тому +1

    Are there cars that allow Differntial adjustment or sway bar adjustment while driving ? It seems the is only Traction control, Anti Lock Brake, Brake Bias (Front to Rear) available to change while racing. Im using Automobilista and ASsetto Corsa

  • @HoochGuy
    @HoochGuy 5 років тому +2

    Man, watching you go through that down hill section in the FR is so satisfying. Great video and thanks for the tip!

  • @jameznash
    @jameznash 6 років тому +4

    great video - really helps using the brake bias on a pad as well because you can soften the cars reactions a bit and make it feel more stable. Like you said - especially on the MR cars which i struggle with on the pad.
    I always do a few laps - then change the bias and do a few more. especially if you are running a car or track that you are not used to.
    Looking forward to more of this type of video.

  • @JamalRace
    @JamalRace 3 роки тому +1

    Very useful thanx

  • @BlitzkriegRap
    @BlitzkriegRap 6 років тому +1

    Great video! Sometimes it helps setting the brake bias to the rear to settle the car's rear end on the turn-in when you lift off the brakes.
    This is especially is true of N class cars on One Make races. You have to figure out if your rear is oversteering on the braking or on the lift-off, if it is on the lift off - more brake pressure to the rear helps to keep more weight on the back axle mid after trail braking and keeping the rear in check.

  • @stewyripper
    @stewyripper Рік тому +1

    Great video thanks for all those hints and tips.

  • @doifeellucky
    @doifeellucky 6 років тому +13

    I'd like to see a cornering guide, seems to be where I lose the most time. Though it's probably hard to drive badly, perhaps you could show some comparisons against a ghost to show where minor mistakes, braking too early, late, hard or soft, when to accelerate etc, will lose the most time. I've used your track guides (and AC setups) for a few years, and seem to match you pretty closely, in terms of braking point, turn in and exit, but still struggle to get round within 3-4 seconds of your time on the longer tracks, despite being only fractions of a second off the best times in the driver tutorials. Thanks. Almost at 15k, keep up the good work.

    • @Superblitzz
      @Superblitzz 6 років тому

      LozKnutsen I have the same problem, would love a video like that

    • @rallyburnzsimracing8571
      @rallyburnzsimracing8571 3 роки тому

      Something I use is,try and use the red markers on the bends as reference:I drive as close to these as possible to find racing line.

    • @robertbradburn9616
      @robertbradburn9616 2 роки тому

      While I agree...I believe everyone corners diff ...we all kinda have a feel of our own for each corner...just find your line and you'll be alright
      Like he says ..to each corner a person has their own way

  • @TheLazlo1985
    @TheLazlo1985 6 років тому

    Great explanation for brake bias. Was able to use these tips for daily race A. Made a big difference and made the car a lot easier to handle. Now to tinker around with it for the other races

  • @brandttews6792
    @brandttews6792 3 роки тому +1

    THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH.

  • @nathanpowell2196
    @nathanpowell2196 6 років тому +13

    This is what i've been waiting for i now understand the bias thankyou kie

  • @brainbeatuk
    @brainbeatuk 3 роки тому +1

    Cheers dude

  • @alibabesccfc
    @alibabesccfc 4 роки тому

    Superb. Been running the AMG Gr 3 for a bit. Been struggling with understeer a lot on Dragon Trail Seaside so will try playing with the brake bias to try and get those super fast times

  • @Eros_Racing
    @Eros_Racing 6 років тому

    Last time I watched a brake vid from Kie I started winning nonstop with the corvette. Thank you man from USA!

  • @brycejeannot8665
    @brycejeannot8665 6 років тому +2

    Thanks a lot kie really appreciate you taking the time to explain this. I was having trouble figuring this out. Great stuff

  • @Largallama
    @Largallama 4 роки тому

    Late the video but great information, i was stumped with brake bias but great starting point, cheers.

  • @stanettiels7367
    @stanettiels7367 5 років тому

    Cheers m8, very helpful for beginners. I play F1 games but recently bought GT Sport and this helps.

  • @ZanyWabbit
    @ZanyWabbit 6 років тому +4

    What a video. Must have taken you ages. I've written all these down so I have the guide next to me.. I've been wanting this guide for long, being an elder person, I forget which way to go. Many thanks 👍

    • @thekie25
      @thekie25  6 років тому +1

      Zany Wabbit thanks mate 👍

  • @peterc6547
    @peterc6547 6 років тому

    Greatly appreciate the effort to create this guide Kie. Definitely a great reference guide and I look forward to putting the start settings into practice.

  • @thewheelpeople
    @thewheelpeople 6 років тому +3

    Will surely try this and feel if there's a difference in handling, thanks!

  • @christophersmith879
    @christophersmith879 5 років тому

    I run breaks 3 to the rear. Can't out break people but my lap times are always quicker and tend to get better drive out of corners due to the stability through the corners. only drive FR cars though. Awesome explanation!

  • @tomleech7861
    @tomleech7861 4 роки тому

    This is my go to guide for brake bias, massive help this video has been to my lap times. 👊🏻👏

    • @BATMANIN
      @BATMANIN 3 роки тому

      Gran Turismo is the best races for me. I have a series of videos on the YT channel from races on ps5

  • @darkblueturbo
    @darkblueturbo 4 роки тому

    Very useful. Thank you. Might have stopped me keep spinning the gr3 Lambo on Saturday.

  • @Spyrothekitty
    @Spyrothekitty 5 років тому

    that is now how brake bias works without abs, without abs u need to find the balance in the car so the tyres lock even when it locks, example downhill and uphill could turn into having to switch out the brake bias front rear to front , just for those parts of the track

  • @davidkuck6609
    @davidkuck6609 5 років тому

    Again thank you so much for the tips.. I've got a long way to go, but I'm getting better by watching your videos, so that being said thank you so much...

  • @barrenlandscof7366
    @barrenlandscof7366 5 років тому +1

    This video was sooo helpful, improved my driving preety much

  • @dozsmith3821
    @dozsmith3821 6 років тому +1

    Great video. This has really cleared up some things to me as I had a rough idea but you explaining it in greater depth will definitely help me in the future. Thank you 👍🏻

  • @ray-Bolantah
    @ray-Bolantah 6 років тому

    Hey Kie it’s Ray. I’ve with you in the lobbies before.
    I just wanted to say thanks for making o couple of things clear to me because i had it all wrong.
    I was doing a great time at Mount Panorama on the Gr 4 BMW M4 and I was actually playing with my bios along the race. I would set it to -1 from “THE CHASE” to T3 and then I’d set it to -4 on “THE SKYLINE” since my understanding was that i needed more brakes towards the front when going downhill especially a steep one like that one. Because with no weight on the rear it would’ve been like pulling the e-brake if if did a +5 or anything near that.
    But now that I’ve seen your video i understand why i was doing so much understeer on the last Corner of the downhill and i was coming out really slow into the straight since I’d have to wait to get back on power.
    Can’t wait to get home in the afternoon and test your theory.
    @6:00 P.M eastern US time I’ll be on Mount Panorama on a Gr4 lobby ( by Name Kie Team)I anybody wants to join. Might do a couple of races if enough people join.

  • @LegendaryOstrich
    @LegendaryOstrich 6 років тому

    And now because this video was so awesome, I'm going to binge all your other videos. Thank you @TheKie25 for this. Amazing content, and I get it now.

  • @guilhermezan
    @guilhermezan 3 роки тому +4

    From my own experience, here's a rule of thumb:
    It's all about weight distribution and drivetrain.
    *FWD*
    FF - weight tends to be shifted onwards; so you might want to minimise understeer; set positive bias (+)
    *RWD*
    FR - weight tends to be shifted onwards; you might want to minimise oversteer; set negative bias (-)
    RR - weight tends to be shifted backwards, encouraging the rear to slip; you might want to minimise oversteer; set negative bias (-);
    MR - weight is well distributed, but you might want ro minimise oversteer; set negative bias (-)
    *AWD (the trickiest)*
    Break bias depends on LSD settings, but generally, it should be set where the engine is placed: for front engine cars, break bias should be positive; for rear/mid engine cars, break bias should negative.
    I the end, you should set the bias according to your driving style.
    Nevertheless, I hope this helps shed some light into it 😉

  • @spitfire2205
    @spitfire2205 6 років тому +3

    Very informative, thanks for taking the time to make this vid. Just started playing around with this setting recently - the info will come in handy. 👍🏻😎

  • @44stevenson
    @44stevenson 6 років тому +5

    Something that you could explain that would make a little more sense in a much shorter amount of time would be this: Moving the brakes to the front will tighten the car up on entry and moving the brakes to the rear will help the car loosen up in the corner. Adjust the brakes to the way you drive so that you can make it more comfortable in the corners for you. .... from a actual race driver

    • @Filipedes
      @Filipedes 6 років тому

      I want to hear more from you! That was cool!

    • @thekie25
      @thekie25  6 років тому +3

      44stevenson but that is what I said but I wanted to actually show people by demonstrating so people can see what is happening 👍 no point being quick as some people have no idea so I wanted to show exactly what happens.

    • @Filipedes
      @Filipedes 6 років тому

      @@thekie25 this only made sense after your full explanation! It was like getting the big picture! This video is outstanding kie25! Thank you

    • @LegendaryOstrich
      @LegendaryOstrich 6 років тому

      @@thekie25 That's exactly what I got from this video. :) Great stuff. Thank you again.

  • @Tamiyapower
    @Tamiyapower 6 років тому +2

    Thanks for this Kie, you and Tidgney are awesome sharing your knowledge.

  • @yepezyepez
    @yepezyepez 6 років тому +1

    Tried the M4 Gr4 tuned to max HP and min Weight @ +2 in brands hatch and it was twitchy for my taste. Had better results with 0 and even -1

  • @ashleyg8373
    @ashleyg8373 4 роки тому

    Wish I could have seen this video sooner. I figured it out the hard way

  • @r.edward5701
    @r.edward5701 5 років тому

    I really appreciate your time for doing this. Many thanks

  • @gonzos3b645
    @gonzos3b645 6 років тому

    This will help alot of people for sure. Good work m8.

  • @x-deathbot-x3720
    @x-deathbot-x3720 6 років тому

    Bro great guide. As im primarily a gr3-gr4 driver i have been recently experimenting in the exact same way. Much thanks for the tips. Im one step closer to being the next Lewis Hamilton. Keep it up!

  • @shadow-playz99
    @shadow-playz99 6 років тому

    Awesome video Kie! Glad you could explained it so precisely!

  • @jeesquat
    @jeesquat 6 років тому

    Loved this video thanks Kie! Always had trouble with the MR cars.

  • @mrbumcraic5046
    @mrbumcraic5046 6 років тому +1

    That lesson is gold
    Well done

  • @darius75240
    @darius75240 6 років тому +1

    Very informative, your videos have helped me become a better driver. Thank you!!

    • @thekie25
      @thekie25  6 років тому +1

      darius75240 but like I say depends on your style, Bathurst is a track where I often go more forwards so try 0 balance or even -1 just remember every track is different and every driver inputs are different so you need to find your sweet spot 👍

  • @craigdavies69
    @craigdavies69 6 років тому

    Awesome guide must have taken you a while, many thanks.

  • @geddyrowe6764
    @geddyrowe6764 6 років тому +3

    This is huge help Kie 👏 Great video, key tip 😉
    I understand properly now

  • @eessers
    @eessers 6 років тому +6

    Thanx Kie. I hope I can chew off some seconds off my laptimes ;-)

  • @rashman9579
    @rashman9579 4 роки тому

    Good video and thanks for posting. Makes sense to probably everyone watching. I think most of the confusion stems from the way GT seems to have misled people regarding how BB impacts the dynamics of a car in game. They would have done better to explain the effects of this setting more accurately.

  • @xxheadbuster723xx
    @xxheadbuster723xx 6 років тому +1

    So so so helpful thanks kie

  • @Filipedes
    @Filipedes 6 років тому +2

    Last week I could not go below 1:39:209 on daily Race gr4.. I'm 3 seconds away.. so this should help.. Next can you talk about car setups? Are they important? Thank you!

  • @migueltm4282
    @migueltm4282 6 років тому +1

    Thanks a lot kie really helpful and useful video

  • @Coby1255
    @Coby1255 6 років тому +5

    0 dislikes lol very good information always great videos

  • @lawrencejarendt1980
    @lawrencejarendt1980 4 роки тому

    Thanks for great video!

  • @topezo
    @topezo 5 років тому

    Nicely explained. Thanks a lot.

  • @playerone82
    @playerone82 6 років тому +2

    A great help, thank you.

  • @thierrym6168
    @thierrym6168 6 років тому

    A great help, once again. Thanks.

  • @tronecolby
    @tronecolby 6 років тому +2

    Nice video. Now I understand it better.

  • @essexviewer
    @essexviewer 4 роки тому

    Brilliant! Thanks for that.

  • @boarders916
    @boarders916 6 років тому

    Thanks buddy. Great video, you definitely cleared up a few things for me 😁

  • @UltraLowMuzik
    @UltraLowMuzik 6 років тому +4

    Very helpful, I wish you did Forza aswell, your videos would help me alot in tuning.

    • @cnmg7121
      @cnmg7121 6 років тому +2

      ohhhh.... you said the F*** word...

  • @lawrencelucero8487
    @lawrencelucero8487 6 років тому +1

    How do you select 30X tire wear? I only see 10X. Great tutorial. Thanks for the info

    • @lawrencelucero8487
      @lawrencelucero8487 6 років тому

      How about in arcade? Custom race is how I sim the races. Only in lobby?

  • @gregfowler2907
    @gregfowler2907 3 роки тому

    Do you get more DR points for racing in the C race? Is it because it is a longer race? Thanks in advance for your response.

  • @opazzzzz8266
    @opazzzzz8266 6 років тому

    Ty kie ...but one question what means NA TT behind the MR FR does that make a difference with driving ?

  • @m8yplayer1
    @m8yplayer1 3 роки тому

    awesome video,, thnx for explaining this !!

  • @Me-eb3wv
    @Me-eb3wv 4 роки тому

    Thanks Kie!

  • @mehdihafidi1301
    @mehdihafidi1301 6 років тому +1

    the problem that i notice mostly with FR cars is that if u put over +2 ok u r gonna to save more on front but actually it doesn't turn and in case of hairpin it's absolutly horrible.... while FIA i could test it with the GR Supra who is a tyre destroyer.... and for tokyo expressway tracks who kills more front tires than many other tracks even with +5 i was struggeling so much cause basically this car is pretty similar as MR cars on driving and thats why for FR it's very good at time attack but on tyre wear race it was horrible because it kills already the front so for that car i had to be on +1 or +2 and it was drivable, could equal tyre wear on all 4 wheels but the car is killing too much tires compared at others :/

    • @thekie25
      @thekie25  6 років тому +1

      U_N_F_A_Z_E_D _59 depends AMG had probably the best wear in GR.3 so depends on car really bit you always go rear bias as a general rule with FR

    • @mehdihafidi1301
      @mehdihafidi1301 6 років тому +1

      @@thekie25 yea i agree with that it's always on rear

    • @mehdihafidi1301
      @mehdihafidi1301 6 років тому +1

      @@thekie25 oh and i meant it doesn't brake about earlier over +2 brakes and yea about not turning it's only about hairpin the problem but ofc it's always better on higher speed corners

  • @doifeellucky
    @doifeellucky 6 років тому +2

    Very helpful, thanks.

  • @davistiano
    @davistiano 4 роки тому

    Great video, thanks for sharing your knowledge!
    Can I ask a stupid question please: how could brakebias affect the car being under/over for corners that I don't have to brake except tyre wear? E.g. the turn 4 and 5 in Fuji (the big longer corner) I don't need to "brake" into this turn but just keeping half throttle etc, does that mean in this case the brake bias means nothing? I drive AMG GT3 and I absolutely cannot get into the apex as fast as the 911 can LOL :)

  • @WarlockSRB
    @WarlockSRB 6 років тому

    ...wondering why downvotes lol... I mean, I did know a lot of this, but then again, it is good thing to hear and see it again... keep it up Kie

  • @yepezyepez
    @yepezyepez 6 років тому +2

    Great!!! Thanks!

  • @brett521971
    @brett521971 6 років тому

    G'day I don't know what wrong where me but I tryed the Gr.3 brake balance options for bathurst but I just can't get it right.

  • @thedvandenberg2297
    @thedvandenberg2297 5 років тому

    nice man, you are inspirational!!

  • @dersir3526
    @dersir3526 5 років тому

    Thank you for this guide

  • @DoKapsy
    @DoKapsy 6 років тому

    The Porsche is different because it's engine is behind the rear axel. All the way in the back.
    So not really a mid-engined car, rather a RR layout.
    No hate just saying to spread information.
    Great video and content as always. :)

    • @85se30
      @85se30 6 років тому +1

      The newest gen gt3 porsche moved the engine forward so they could get a better diffuser under the car. It's technically an MR now

    • @thekie25
      @thekie25  6 років тому +1

      85se30 yes this is correct the RSR is a MR as this is the GTE car that moved the engine 👍

    • @DoKapsy
      @DoKapsy 6 років тому +1

      Oh okey, i didn't know that. I'm sorry and thank you for correcting me. 🙈

  • @BlitzboyGaming
    @BlitzboyGaming 4 роки тому

    That British accent make tutorial videos sounds so much better. It feels like I am watching an actual race with commentators speaking in the background.

  • @jeffn8954
    @jeffn8954 6 років тому +3

    this is cool !even though I'm not racing right now.i can appreciate it you know what I mean 😁

  • @hueysharapova7175
    @hueysharapova7175 5 років тому

    So you are using the stock pedals that came with the TGT?

  • @hasnat9
    @hasnat9 6 років тому

    How about a public Google Sheet with your setups that you can update as and when?

  • @nikolashadjipetrou9371
    @nikolashadjipetrou9371 5 років тому

    Can u make a video explaining the suspension and LSD tips

  • @ntahlagaming
    @ntahlagaming 5 років тому

    Did you change brake bias when approaching different corners in a track? Considering doing something like that

  • @Zieloniutki83
    @Zieloniutki83 6 років тому

    Hi mate! Great video, packed with details, really appreciate it. What do you think about adjutsnig the brake bias on the fly, for certain track parts? Like f.e. have it most on rear for preferred oversteer on entry but decrease it for downhill sections (nurburgring maybe)? Is it worth doing or rather stick for certain setting per track to get consistent with one setting? What real racing drivers do, any information on that? Cheers!

  • @DragonSlayer43781
    @DragonSlayer43781 5 років тому

    So basically positive means over-steer and negative means under-steer

  • @DC-jf2zt
    @DC-jf2zt 6 років тому

    I'm a beginner at sim racing this is my first game, i'm struggling without assists, any tips?

  • @shihabrahman6502
    @shihabrahman6502 6 років тому

    Thanks so much for this video.. finally getting my noodles around brake balance! Question: Do you adjust brake balance DURING laps depending what corners are coming up.. or is it better just to have a good average bb for the overall lap? Keep up the great vids :)

    • @thekie25
      @thekie25  6 років тому

      Shihab Rahman this is a possibility for a advanced Brake Bias video 😉

  • @scruffybearmedia
    @scruffybearmedia 3 роки тому

    Needed this....

  • @thewheelpeople
    @thewheelpeople 6 років тому +1

    You should make a video about DR rating. I can not grow from B to A. So frustrating. SR is S, that's easy. What should one do?

    • @thekie25
      @thekie25  6 років тому

      Bommie7 Racing your DR is based off your race results you need to be performing well consistently to raise it up 👍

    • @thewheelpeople
      @thewheelpeople 6 років тому

      Constantly...there's the thing. Thanks.

    • @fernandovieira8479
      @fernandovieira8479 6 років тому

      I’m not a fast driver but I managed to get to A for consistent races.. mostly due to practice before racing and avoiding fights for position way too much cuz that can lead to bad results cuz of penalties and accidents

    • @thewheelpeople
      @thewheelpeople 6 років тому

      @@fernandovieira8479 Thanks for advice!

  • @Flamingox
    @Flamingox 5 років тому

    Great vid thanks :)

  • @hoary212
    @hoary212 6 років тому

    Great vid as usuall, (wish had subtitles to help with that accent XD) Why MR in gr.3 and gr.4 have opposed settings? aren't they in essence the same car in terms of where the engine is and the weight?

    • @thekie25
      @thekie25  6 років тому

      Team Cano MotorSport yes however as a general rule they are easier to control due to weaker power so you tend to be able to go more aggressive on brake bias 👍

  • @Mike23443
    @Mike23443 5 років тому

    911s are an anomaly because they aren't really MR cars. They're more close to RR cars and the weight of the engine sits right on the rear axle all the way at the back. That really messes with how the car reacts to sideways forces. It can handle rear bias because despite the weight shift forward under braking, there's still a lot of mass on the back of the car, keeping the tires at good traction, so the rear doesn't really want to snap out that much. I always feel like I'm driving a dart. Try as you may to upset that car, it will always have that inherent stability, which is paradoxically, very counter intuitive, because you would not at all expect it to behave this way. You'd expect it to go insane and snap oversteer like crazy, but at a certain point, when the tires are thick enough on the back of a Porsche, it just breaks through that oversteer barrier and gains cheat level stability.

  • @stonerdemon
    @stonerdemon 4 роки тому

    Hello dude, great video and very useful info! I'm a long time GT fan but by no means am I a pro at this game. I'm going after the platinum and I'm doing fine so far. I got the pole positions trophy and now I need to rack up wins. I know you must be accustomed to driving very fast cars, but do you think you can give me some tips on which N100 car should I pick to get better times at Autopolis shortcut version? It's part of the current weekly races. I've been driving the Demio, stable but not really fast. Should I pick the Honda Fit or Suzuki Swift Sport? Tuning the brake balance would help in some way? Thanks in advance, I hope you can give me a hand.

  • @valentinocoletti1924
    @valentinocoletti1924 6 років тому

    Thx u very nice video

  • @il_cardi8154
    @il_cardi8154 4 роки тому

    Abs? On off or standard?

  • @Bigs81
    @Bigs81 6 років тому

    MORE STUFF LIKE THIS!!!

  • @kevinsai1
    @kevinsai1 5 років тому

    Sorry guys....stupid noob question. What does MR and FR stand for? Thanks

    • @ngc_au
      @ngc_au 5 років тому

      kevin byars first letter designates engine position, second letter is the wheels that put the power down.
      MR = mid engine rear wheel drive,
      FR = front engine rear wheel drive