Same? Different? Shimano DEORE 12 Speed vs SLX & XT Derailleur - M6100
Вставка
- Опубліковано 6 лип 2024
- Is #Deore #M6100 12s derailleur going to dethrone the #Shimano SLX 12s for the low cost option? Watch this video to see the pros and cons. Bonus - the XTR "hack" for the Deore RD.
➡️Click here to subscribe: - bit.ly/37tescF
⭐If you need parts and tools please consider using the links below, they help me fund this channel. Thank you!
The little Teflon part from XTR derailleur is called Cover with tongue, or NOSE.
It is Shimano P/N - Y5PV48000 and it comes with the XTR MTB cable kits.
Shimano OEM parts from Canada:
Deore M6100 SGS 12s Derailleur - bit.ly/343yBFh
Shimano Deore CS-M6100 10-51T - bit.ly/33ZzEpx
Shimano SLX 12 speed Shifter M7100 - bit.ly/3qNmNAU
Shimano Premium Grease (Y04110000) - bit.ly/2SSpp4m
Shimano TL-FC41 DM Chainring Tool 12 speed (Y13098720) - bit.ly/3gY5XuP
⭐And in USA, hit Worldwide Cyclery for some awesome gear! BTW did you know that the Worldwide Cyclery crew provides a discount for signing up to their newsletter?
12s Derailleurs
Shimano Deore RD-M6100-SGS Derailleur 12 Speed - bit.ly/3oHAWgV
Shimano SLX RD-M7100-SGS Derailleur-12-Speed, Long Cage - bit.ly/2jZ0QRC
Shimano XT RD-M8100-SGS Derailleur - 12-Speed, Long Cage - bit.ly/2k4EBKc
Shimano 12s Chains
Shimano XTR CN-M9100 Chain - 12-Speed - bit.ly/2lTwaBQ
Shimano XT CN-M8100 Chain - 12-Speed - bit.ly/2lUhK4r
Shimano SLX CN-M7100 Chain - 12-Speed - bit.ly/2m1iaGp
Shimano Deore CN-M6100 Chain 12-Speed - bit.ly/341P3Gb
Cassettes
Shimano Deore CS-M6100-12 Cassette - bit.ly/39XJX1r
Shimano XT CS-M8100 Cassette 10-51t 12-Speed - bit.ly/2M1yD8s
Shimano SLX CS-M7100 Cassette 10-51t 12-Speed - bit.ly/2O7403W
Shimano XTR M9100 12s, 10-51t Cassette bit.ly/2UbM1aO
12s Shifters
Shimano XT M8100 Shifter(s) - bit.ly/3m6O65X
Shimano XTR M9100 Shifter(s) - bit.ly/2IFICR5
SLX M7100 Shifter(s) - bit.ly/2J0NLE3
Cable Sets
Shimano MTB Optislick Derailleur Cable Set - bit.ly/37G5pXo
Shimano SP41 Cable Housing - bit.ly/2H7YHhj
Shimano SP41 Cable Grease - bit.ly/2RAaRUn
Cranks
SLX FC-M7100 Cranks - bit.ly/3kYkuaL
XT FC-M8100 Crankset - 170mm, 12-Speed - bit.ly/2TQBmnS
Bottom Bracket
Shimano Deore BB52B Hollowtech II English BB - bit.ly/2ZaZQx5
Shimano XT BB-MT800 English Bottom Bracket - bit.ly/2qAi2Mx
Truvativ/SRAM Team GXP English Threaded BB for 68/73mm - bit.ly/2ZmPwBt
SRAM DUB Bottom Bracket English Threaded 68-73mm - bit.ly/2TVmcga
Other goodies
Park Tool FR-5.2 Cassette Lockring Tool - bit.ly/2HRxRqr
Shimano Grease for Shadow RD+ Rear Derailleur - bit.ly/2u4n2yL
Park Tool Polylube 1000 Grease - bit.ly/2qy34qo
Videos I referred to
Shimano clutch maintenance - • ⭐Essential Derailleur ...
1X vs 2X Shimano 12 speed Derailleurs - • 1x vs 2x Shimano 12 sp...
Shimano 12 Speed Derailleur BENT and Twisted? - • Best Shimano 12 speed ...
Shimano 12 Speed Cassettes, Freehub, Installation - • Shimano 12 speed Casse...
⭐FOLLOW ME on SOCIAL
Instagram - / love.mtb
Twitter - / mevnet
⌚ Timeline
0:00 Intro
0:24 Deore Derailleur Options
1:04 Deore next to XT
1:37 Clutch
2:18 Fixing Bolt
2:45 Cage, length, materials
3:40 Jockey Wheels
4:15 Adjustment help
4:35 Bent and Twisted?
5:07 Weight
5:39 Deore/ XTR Hack?
6.13 Deore derailleur? Conclusions
My channel is not sponsored. All opinions are my own, 100% honest. Some of the links in this description are affiliate links. I'll earn a small commission if you make a purchase and it's no additional cost to you, I appreciate your support!
Using Deore derailleur, with slx crankset, xtr bb, slx cassette and xt shifter. Very good budget built.
does xt shifer feel better than deore?
Unbeatable , simple to the point .. great video as always. Cheers
Everytime something goes wrong with my bike, you seem to have great detailed videos for what I need to know! twisted the stabilizer on my clutch, replacement part seems to be impossible to get hold of here and the derilleur has seen better days anyway so will replace the whole thing. Looks like I will just save some money and replace the XT with Deore. Thankyou for your work
Nice to know that Shimano has taken a leap from the old 11T - 11T pulley sizes on their RDs.
Deore has always been great stuff. I still have my first mountain bike, an 89 Diamond back Apex, which came with Deore. That bike still shifts like the day I got it: perfectly. Back then I never even considered upgrading to XT because the Deore worked so well. I got a new bike in November and it came with SLX. If anything breaks I will put Deore on it.
The only diferrence U feel is the shifter itself. Pretty cheap and deore feels Like xt👍
Would love to see you do some maintenance videos and maybe one on tools to have for home servicing
Such good comparative reviews !! Your channel has actually helped me out a lot, as I run sram sx and wanting to know what else out there is compatible to upgrade as I’m not a great fan of the sx derailleur.
Thank you for your knowledge! I’ll be back
Very informative video!
I've already ordered a 12sp Deore rear mech after doing lots of research (and being a tight git) and this video just backs up my choice. And your other video on the 12 sp Sunrace cassette might also convince me to buy one of those! Many thanks!
Thank you! Just after watching wideo I've ordered deore:)
Buen video , con informacion muy util como siempre. Excelente calidad-precio del DEORE
There is already XT with medium cage! Good news as for me! Published on Shimano and presented in some online stores
Perfecto review, thanks 😉
Did you just laugh at your own LPL-reference there at the end? :-D
Thanks for the good comparison - it saved me a good amount of money, because now I can happily buy a Deore instead of SLX or XT :-).
Well done again. Informative video thank you
@@LoveMTB hiya. Do you have a video about mixing shimano rear derailuer with Sram cassette and chain. 12 speed. Limited aftermarket freehub options for shimano's microspline cassette mean that my XD drive freehub and cassette are likely to be paired with Shimano derailuer because I just prefer the shimano shifter over the Sram shifter. I'm not expecting problems, but if you had experience doing this, I'm sure me and many other riders would love to watch a video about it. Best regards. Lisa
Buena explicacion y buen video. Gracias por Compartir!
Just got my Deore m6100 last week🤗
@@LoveMTB I havent put it on my bike yet, some parts hasn't arrived. Maybe next month. Btw your videos really help, thanks bro.👌
I liked the deore so much I purchased a spare rd and shifter, cost only about 45bucks. What a great time to stock parts
Ain't that right? 🙂
Great comparison!!!! I already discuss about that cage bent, this is a shimano design for the derailleur cage, not a factory faulty. However, I heard of the mechanics which want bent over the cage 🤔
@@LoveMTB Your videos about bent cage did mentioned in the moment of discussion...they believe that the bent cage are from Chinese shimano derailleur (AliExpress) and all of shimano derailleur that came from China have the bent cage. Only the original derailleur don’t have bent cage (????). Other problem discussed are about the clutch and the seal. They believe that the seal, in m8100 clutch derailleur is bad compared with m8000. And they said the same thing: the Chinese derailleur....
@@ismaeltrindade8423 as a mechanic I imagine they see quite a few of those derailleurs... If they would look closely they would notice that they're all "bent" the exact same way. I'd find that very unlikely to happen by accident. Especially once you get deore, SLX and xt parts all with the same issue.
But the video references here is definitely the clearer proof and a very good explanation why the bend is good.
Thank you!
Really informative as usual. Thanks to your videos I already purchased the xt 8100 shifter instead of the slx 7100 or sram GX. Keep up the good work
interesting. My SLX derailleur has the rubber bumper. Added a bit of 3M mastic tape to create one on my Deore. Also you can upgrade the SLX and Deore pulleys to the XT BB pulleys for under $20 and still save a good amount of money vs. the price of XT.
@@LoveMTB makes sense the 7120 is for a 10-45 so probably doesn't need it. Yes, the mastic works, not that I noticed much noise without it.
I'm your newest subscriber
@@LoveMTB Thanks
Good video
I wish i have that kind of RD
Great video on Shimano 12 sp derailleurs! Thank you. Which cage is strongest? Are they all interchangeable?
Gracias saludos desde Chile.
Love the channel, thanks. Had a question about DEORE XT Rear Derailleur SHIMANO SHADOW RD+ 1x12-speed. The GS shows that is lower than the SGS but says compatible for the 10-45 cassette. Does that mean it wont work on the 10-51
It's also interesting, that previously marketed as lighter 1x system, weights look to be getting out of hand maybe? Shimano is making Deore cage of mix aluminum/steel, ooorrr maybe they moved production to Japan for precision, but chosen to leave the SLX cage unchanged for use in Deore, to save space for production line or the need of retooling for batches of cages for Deore/SLX.
Gotta say biggest downsides of cheap wide range cassettes is the weight, and adding a hefty derailleur on top of it to rear wheel of full suspension bike is not welcomed. Really interesting what the correct reason was, aluminum is stiffer so it might be also for that precision. After my recent first serious cage twist on deore 10sp recently, gotta admit steel cage is lovely. Being able to just bend it back with no affert or visible damage and keep on riding was SWEET. Maybe they try to lure customers with just few grams less, since the competition from Box and Microshift is growing? Maybe all of those reasons play a little role? We need Inspetor Gadget to investigate.....I meant Inspector Groupset ;-p
Do the bearing jockey wheels of XT make for a noticable difference vs the bushings of Deore?
SLX = 105 is the best balance.....by far. The 1x has a bumper. Comparing 1x and 2x mixed together is maybe not ideal, but great review anyway.
Another point for slx choice.
Great video. I would like to know, would a 12s rd work with 11s cassete and 11s chain? Thanks.
Replaced my broken sram sx with this, and so pleased, it just works great so much better than the budget sram, I found I had to constantly adjust the sram and then it broke.
I can recommend SRAM GX although Deore and SLX are both cheaper and probably at least as good. (I actually prefer Shimano but currently ride Sram GX)
SX has too many plastic parts for my liking. Metal adjustment screws in plastic really aren't a great idea, especially not on something like a rear derailleur. Otherwise SX does bring 12s to a very low price point but if it breaks, upgrading to something like NX, GX, Deore or SLX seems like a very good choice.
SRAM SX/NX/GX is crap compared to Shimano’s offerings even the cheapest Devore. They are made of cheese or something because even grass could bend the cage of my GX Eagle rear mech. After replacing two GX I switched to Shimano and never looked back.
@@LoveMTB even the setting up is easier, sram needs a special tool, so you can't even check if it's set correctly from factory without it or faffing around, and the shimano has a line stamped on so you can see straight away if it's not correct from the factory.
@@penskib1975 setup is easier on Shimano, maintenance is easier on SRAM.
On Sram derailleurs the clutch doesn't need maintenance and the cage lock makes taking out the wheel a lot more comfortable.
You also cannot forget to turn the clutch back on after maintenance.
Also I think it's sufficient to eyeball the b-gap or measure it with a hex key. The tool isn't essential to get good shifting.
When setting up the slx on a NX 50t cassete do i still set it to the 51t line
I sometimes thing the Devore Sox derailleur likes like sram eagles derailler because of that idleer pullers up position
Hi Thanks for indications on the SLX derailleur is bend & twist by design. You indicate there’s a video , any link? Thanks
Nice videos as ussual , I have one concern, any rear derailleur medium cage (m7120 or m8120) that supposed to work only on 10-45 , will work on 10-51 ? thanks you, I ask you this coz the medium cage in in a very good deal on amazon , huge less that the long cage version , thank you very much
this and XTR are the only 12spd rear derailleurs I can get in Norway now. So I probably will try these.
I've Ran Box One X-Wide, but it was flawed, I will continue to do testing, but I had to install Wolftooth Road Link cus I maxed the B bolt and guide pulley was too far back, resulting in bad shifting performance with 11.50T so problem is solved now, but the bushings wear in few tens of km, so that's disappointing, but if I had to replace them once n a year or so that would be fine, but if riding a lot that can be a month worth, but I've been feeling bad a lot so not ridden as much, but I plan on trying SHimano again, but Sram Rear derailleurs are out of stock in Norway.
it will be a while before the Garbaruk 11.-50T I ordered is ready.
So probably fastest solution to get 12 speed Deore RD.
@@LoveMTB just ordered a IRDM6100SGS
Is the body section that the clutch cover attaches to (black bit after the hinge, not the bit with the logo on) , plastic or metal on the SLX & XT? I have the Deore & it snapped clean in two very easily at that point as it is made of plastic. Was wondering if the others in the range would be stronger. Anyone know?
I nearly went 12 speed recently but decided to step up to the M5100 11 speed instead.
Little did I know that the derailleur would be out of stock everywhere with my only option being importing one from Germany, Spain or Italy!
So I've got an M5100 shifter, chain and Sunrace MX8 11-50 cassette waiting until a UK shop has stock.
@@LoveMTB Do you know of the M6100 derailleur would work? It looks almost identical?
That's an interesting idea, I think I'll give it a try. I also get the added bonus of the oil slick Deore logo, which means I can hang around with the cool kids!
@@LoveMTB would it work vice versa? M6100 cassette 12s xt shifter and chain with m5100 11s rd should it work?
Fantastic video. Simple, exactly what I needed to know with no other bs thrown in as topping. Perfect. It appears that going for Deore RD in your drivetrain is the most sensible choice and the SLX is caught in an awkward position without any value addition for the extra cost.
Have you tested these 12s derailleurs with the HG compatible 12s cassettes that Sunrace and others make? The Shimano spec says min and max teeth count for smallest cog is 10t - so will it not work with 11-46/50 cassettes? I am really curious to know this as that means I don't have to upgrade my wheels to Microspline hub. The Sunrace cassettes are also much cheaper than 10-51 cassettes.
Thoughts?
im using this RD with ZRace 12 cassette. Works Flawlessly, no need shimano MS hub
Can u do comparisons with m6100 and m5100 rd? I think they are just the same. Just different branding.
would i be able to use the deore 12 speed derailleur with a 10 speed 11-46 cassette? thanks
As a budget cyclist, deore, all the way. It works,
very well. What more do you want?
@@LoveMTB now you are getting complicated.
I still ride a 9 speed..and love it. 26 wheels.
The way it should be. Maybe I should drop out?
@@LoveMTB good answer. Every day I want to "up grade " but hay, I will not leave my bich.
Agree with you except for the shifters. XT are so much better in action and feel than Deore and SLX. Felt the noticeable difference on all bikes and speeds.
I think my choice would be an xt shifter, SLX/xt brake calipers and everything else deore.
Those are the two components with some minor feature differences I care about. Otherwise deore is absolutely great value for your money.
Great to see the 12s at such low price points AND that everything is compatible... Some components even work with SRAM as we've learned here.
@@sebastianjost Why do you think XT/SLX calipers a worth buying compared to the Deore? Because of ceramic pistons and banjo hose mount? I don't think there's any real world difference. For general XC/trail rides, Deore's just fine, IMHO.
Hey I have deore group set on my bike. 1X12 M6100. I damaged my deore Derailleur can I use just the Deore XT M8100 Derailleur with rest of deore group set?
Ill buy cassette slx ,shifter xt and xt hub for 10speeds cz i have carbon frame sid fork and shitt group set.
After breaking my XT derailleur I could only get a Deore as a replacement from my LBS until i get an xt.
Deore is heavy duty compared to XT. Obviously XT is lighter.
Deore is beefier body and steel cage. Shifting doesn't seem as crisp and I'm sure that's just from the bushed jockey wheels.
Everything seems interchangeable so you could use xt bolt, cage and jockey wheels to improve it while having a heavy duty body.
So you would consider that an upgrade?
@@LoveMTB I would for Enduro as I've had a few xt break just under the mounting bolt (from rock strikes etc).
Would definitely prefer to break the hanger.
Is the new deore m5120 a good deal for 1x 10 or just stick to deore m6000 ? Thankss!
👍🏻
My SLX does have the little bumper
Hi,I have 24" MTB bike does it fit 11-51 casette on My bike
Great video, thanks. Is the new 11 speed Deore derailleur compatible with the older 11 speed slx/xt gear shifters?
If yes it would be a good upgrade for better shifting to 46t+ cassettes
Yes, works great. I run a 11s deore cassette (11-51t) with a 11s deore shifter and a 12s deore derailleur.
My friend mixed his m4100 deore with 11speed slx shifters so yeah its compatible
Hello can RD m6100 1x12s can be used for fd m7100 2x12
Is it possible to install a bumper for damping a chain from SLX, XT, XTR on the outer Deore body? Will there be a video on this topic, many will be interested! I would be very grateful for this information! Since bumpers can be purchased separately!
@@LoveMTB Thank you!
woowww nice..❤️
@@LoveMTB your welcome...
hi m5100 will work with 12s cassete and 12s shifter?
hey i love you channel! Can you review the polish cassettes from #garbaruk? HG 12-Speed and Mircospline 12-Speed run with Deore/SLX/XT/XTR derailleurs?
Hi I asked you a similar question a few weeks ago but referring to electronic gears.
I have Sram NX and just don't like the way the shifters work. So I know I can fit a shimano 12 speed RD but if I fit a shimano shifter will this sit with the brake lever ok or do I need to fit a shimano lever? I will keep the NX cassette until it is worn out which should last some time.
Thanks for your help
NX brakes it's a fairly new bike only done 150miles. Cheers
@@LoveMTB sorry just checked. guide brakes?. I thinks its all fairly basic kit. I am new to MTB coming from a road backgroung, so some of his Sram stuff don't mean much at the mo. cheers
Deor dyna sys best
Is it really worth the money to settle in SLX than Deore? SLX does have a bumper on the pulley cage like XT and XTR while the Deore doesn't.
Honestly no, no good reason whatsoever
It’s a common mistake to put SLX in line with Deore and XT, but its purpose is different being more targeted at downhill MTB. In that sense, it is more in line with Saint
Well said, main lineup is made of:
Deore: budget option
Deore XT: midrange
XTR: top of the line
Do you know if a ceramicspeed over sized pulley wheel will fit a deore? They have compatibility with XT and XTR
@@LoveMTB thanks for repling. when this group set dies i will upgrade to soemthing, not sure exactly what.... shimano seems to make more reliable gear vs sram? is that your thoughts too? personally never had sram but alot of people online realy rate shimano... I've thought of a Gx Axs groupset
When I first saw the logo color on my deore, I thought I got myself a fake one.
Im thinking 12 speed 32x10x42 w medium cage. From watching people in front of me. Most riders are carrying dead weight 99% of the time with 50t + gearing. Xc is the worst offenders. Most the time never even use the top two large gears. I guess it just depends where you ride but unless 1 super steep 2 large front ring. They hardly ever get used.
What's your take on using the XT 8100 12 speed derailleur on an 11 speed drivetrain with the Deore 5100 11-51 11 speed cassette and XT M8000 11 spd shifter? I want to go with the XT derailleur for the ball bearing pulleys.
Other sources say it'll work, but I just want some more reassurance before purchase. Thanks.
Yes. It works great
@@marcmuller6509 Thank you. Now, I just have to find an XT 8100 rear derailleur. Out of stock everywhere.
@@garyleese9398 I have the 12s Deore derailleur with the 11s 11-51t cassette and it works perfect. I can't imagine how the 12s XT derailleur could outperform the 12s Deore. Save the money for a HG 701 or HG 901 chain.
@@marcmuller6509 , as I mentioned in my original question, I always go for XT rear derailleurs over Deore or SLX because of the ball bearing pulleys vs higher friction bushing pulleys on the Deore and SLX.
Do they all shift the same.
My deore m6100 rd has a steel outer cage
Is it possible to swap the jockey wheels sealed bearing system from the xt derailleur to an slx derailleur?
@@LoveMTB Thanks, great.
What's the difference between deore 11s and 12s derailleur ? I already purchased the slx 12speed derailleur and 11s deore shifter for my 11 speed cassette
@@LoveMTB difference between the 11s and 12s deore derailleur not the shifter
Price, Weight and some slightly different logos.
@@gammelgemse ok big thanks from France ! I really appreciate your work :)
Can I use the Deore M6100 Derailleur in 2x12 setup? my crankset is Deore M5100 26-36T
Thay say no because it has too much offset. Have not thied it myself.
@@LoveMTB whys is it too much offset? what will happen if I will push that setup?
is it worth it to upgrade from slx m7100 rd to deore m8100 rd? does it have a big difference in performance
Unfortunately you'll see zero diffrence in performance...
Awesome review, Can you use the 10-45 cassette with this derailleur ?
Should be able to.
@@LoveMTB thank you for that, good info. Would be it be different if it was the 12 speed 11-45? Cheers
@@LoveMTB always do, thank you. Cheers
@Maciej Jan Długosz would that be the case for all other RD that are for 10-51T cassette? I ask because I have a bike that I tried it on and it seemed to work out, but it's different on a stand then when you put power down. Thanks again.
@Maciej Jan Długosz makes sense, thanks man, i appreciate the info.
Honestly i had to buy a down hill Zee derailleur 11-25 for my ebike because all of these are just too big and i would never use those huge sprockets :D
in turbo i completly understand :D i had a 9s shimano drive drain on my e bike and it was fine. but if you are using eco mode or tour mode to go further, for me the 12 speed comes in to play on steep climbs
your motor will last longer w lower gearing
@@LoveMTB the wide range come into play. Honestly less gears and the same range would be awesome for E bikes, but I don't know if there is a drive drain like this out there. I started mountaibiking with an E Bike and had the same problem at the beginning with just using a few small cogs because the motor is so strong and pulls you up the hill with any gear. Before I just used a Singlespeed bike on the street and never shifted :D but after a while I noticed that using gears feels more naturally, better for the motor and increased the range of my battery. Also shifting is fun like driving a manual car!:D
@@LoveMTB oh .. that would be cheeper as well. But anyway, the 12 speed is already on my bike for many k's :D
slx existence has always been a mistery for me
Only time I use slx on my bike is the crank. Managed to damage my old Deore one so bought an slx m7000 and works great.
Slx has stronger springs and coated (hardened) pins in pantograph like xt, so it will last longer at least in accuracy of shifting
With this new 12s deore, most SLX parts are indeed kind of pointless as deore offers basically the exact same features and performance at a slightly lower price and marginally more weight.
However there are a few feature differences I know of:
1. The brake calipers of SLX use screws to hold the pads in place. Deore uses those annoying pins you have to bend around each time.
2. The SLX brake levers have a tool-free reach adjustment. On Deore you need a hex key... I think it's about 4±1mm.
I actually prefer the deore version here because I don't accidentally adjust it. I can set it and forget it. It also looks better imo.
3. SLX comes as a 2x12 version, deore is 1x12 only. For me 1x12 is enough with the "new" 10T cogs but there are people who still prefer 2x because they need the extra range.
4. The SLX cassette has one black (alloy) gear, the Deore is all silver (steel). By counting the black gears you can easily tell apart the 12s cassettes. Just a nice extra although almost pointless.
However all of these are tiny differences. So in this 12s generation, there's no major difference.
I believe SRAMs high end groupsets XX1 and X01 have similarly little difference although from what I understand they are intended for different use cases and therefor the weights are a bit more different.
@@LoveMTB under abusive conditions deore springs may show some signs of corrosion when slx not found "guilty" mayby it is just faulty series came to Poland but probably different material.
In general slx products feels more solid.
Slx crank is the best value to weight I found, still supports replaceable bearings for BB. Overall Slx will always have more stainless steel bolts used. Which is extremely valuable for long term use and saves a lot of hassle trying to find matching bolts in hardware stores and cut them to size. Cycling bolt heads are often narrower so they require grinding too, if purchased in hardware stores. Also Slx is the lowest group made in Japan which promises better tolerances and materials used. You might think you're getting alloy for one side of cage here in both, but what type of alloy is it, we don't know.
.. hi good day to you sir what should I get or us if I want to upgrade my drivetrains I want 2x12 my bike is fat bike
@@LoveMTB .. eny budget set up to recommen
@@LoveMTB I have a cags ang powerwheel already i just need the Ed. Ang shifter
@@LoveMTB .. thankyou very sir for your time be safe always.. 🙏
Can I use RD-M7100sgs ( for 1 by set-up) for shimano 2x12?
I would say probably not, based on the Shimano specs. The 7100 has a lower capacity, and a low sprocket minimum of 51T. Might be worth a try if you already have a 7100.
I bought a deore 12 speed rd a few weeks ago, when i was checking the materials on it, it seems that the outer cage of mine is steel cause my magnet sticks to it, did shimano change the materials from aluminum to steel? or is it because it is made from another country? (mine is made from japan) thanks, and love your explanation by the way
@@LoveMTB you have a point there, thankyou so muchhh
Is the slx worth spending some extra bucks over the m6100?
If price matter, go for deore grupo with xt shifter, it will shift like xt. Xt shifter are short swing and faster. Wana durable harder chain go for xtr CN9100. Deore part are cheap to replace if u crash it. All of them have the same durability.
Do you know if slx or xt shifts on 10-52 cassette?
@@LoveMTB thanks a lot dude 🤜🤛
deore is better than nx sram ????
brake shimano, shift Sram. I think Shimano is still lagging behind. Looks not as sturdy, it's missing the pulley that eases the shifting, missing the detensioner botton etc
May I put a xt 8100 12 speed sproket on a bike that has a m6100 kit? (12 speed too of course) Or do I have to change derrailer and chain to make that possible? Thank you my friend for your help
My bike came with a M6100 Deore groupset. What drivetrain components are worth upgrading to XT? I was thinking of the XT shifter and cassette for sure. Not sure about the cranks and derailleur. What are your thoughts?
Go with xt shifter first. Huge difference.
Hi . Can I use slx m7120 rd on a 1x10 setup ?
Havent have a budget yet on new 12s chain crank and cassette
Oh, thanks for telling me . Yes i’m using a 27.5 trail bike . Maybe I’ll just buy the older version .
Thanks for the tip. I’ll just go for the old slx or xt 11s drivetrain .
Hey, couldnt find the part number in the description on xtr hack thingy
Slx irrelevant now, except maybe the cranks
Same crappy clutch