He didn’t betray him. He was just literally an old ass man and was on death’s door. He literally died like half a year later after this it’s a miracle that he lifted himself in the air and flew around the city even.
Imagine going up to your great grandpa that used to be strong and work his ass off, now old, sluggish and dying, and saying “I feel betrayed by your failing health!”. Not far off the same principle.
Have you read the books? Balerion was also hurt prior to that and never recovered from it. So it's natural he didn't have the strength given that he was old, injured and too big to fly. He didn't even come out of the dragonpit in his last years
He died because he got seriously injured because of his former rider before Viserys combined that with his old age he's basically in death's door at that point
The biggest problems with dragons is the fact they don’t stop growing I mean at a certain age they outgrow most of there food so then what can you feed them Cattle won’t be able to feed one anymore like look at Vhagar could you imagine how big Balerion was I imagine you’d have to hunt whales to properly feed him
Dragons relationship with their riders is very intriguing. How dragon and rider choose each other. Why one choice and not another. New hatchling choice over old dragon who had many ex riders. Dragons health or death affect on rider. Even how a dragon can choose to burn its master .
Why would not flying him to Dragonstone be a betrayal? All dragon riders have a story or two about their dragons not following commands. Visery’s was the actual betrayer, he never tried to bond with another dragon, became a dragon less King, betraying his Targaryen traditions.
The end of an era I belive the dread wanted too but for his age and size it would be painful to land and take off they make comments about this referring to vaghar as she's oldest after him and largest
Balerion wasnt old. He went to Valyria and something hurted him there, to the point of never been "him" again. Just check Vhaegar, almost same age and she is still fighting and flying. Dragons dont die from old age, there was never a record of one doing it annd in old Valyria there were bigger dragons than him.
Balerion didn't betray anyone. He was half dead because of a wound he got flying through Old Valyria, Balerion was on his deathbed by the time King Viserys claimed him.
Um, no, there's no betrayal. Balerion was old, lazy, and dying. He didn't refuse to fly more, so much as was more incapable of going further. It's especially telling that he died shortly after, despite probably having the best care in Westeros, after the king himself.
All riders get only one bonded dragon though a dragon may gave multiple riders i think if someone tried to claim another dragon it would tear them to pieces
@@sapphicgeek24the big question is still what did he face there ? With those many great fresh wounds, I still think that a few dragons escape the doom and still wander there, it has to be a big one, nothing else could wound Balerion
@@clayandros2038 I find it very difficult, because there is nothing there that sustains life, apart from the theory that he found Aurion and his dragon, I imagine that he may have fought a Firewyrm which is the only type of being that is capable of surviving there. But about having dragons there, I would have this as ruled out because dragons need to eat a lot to grow and there is practically no food there.
That's a good parallel to the night's watch motto for a valyrians to it's dragon by the freehold by dragon instead of: now his watch is over: Now his conquest is over
Balerion: 'Viserys...you're a nice kid but I am over 200 years old. My joints are aching, my back is killing me and its cold up in the air! I just want to sit and relax. Where are my reading glasses?"
A bigger dragon. Valeria still has unclaimed wild dragons who have never experienced captivity. Imagine what size they couldve reached @@jyotirani8187
Balerion imho wasn't just old: he was broken. He saw Valyria, his "home" burnt and destroyed, and he almost died there and suffered terrible injuries and lost his rider. He probably just gave up at that point. He was there physically, but gave up on life
Or poisoned.. it’s kinda suggested that the dragons were messed with by the maesters. Probably to weaken the great house.. but I’d have to go back and find what book I read that in.
well they where locked in the Dragon pits so they got to little movment and to little food - they wheren´t on the volcanoes so they where in to cold surroundings - and they where probalby poisoned - and they did to much incest with way to few acessable mates - and the dragons that did get to mate where more often the not the weak and sicly once becouse thouse didn´t die in stupid wars
”Had become sluggish, heavy and was No longer fearsome beast of the past” my guy it’s a dragon the size of a building that can melt and destroy castles. Claiming it’s not fearsome anymore is just wild.
Of Dragons grow their whole life, then there is a point where they start suffocating because the muscles in their chest aren’t strong enough to support breathing. If Balerion had reached that point, then it is entirely possible that he wasn’t really fearsome in comparison to the younger dragons who could and would kill you if you did a wrong move, simply because he was going out of breath by moving himself. In theory he is still incredibly strong, but his weight limits him both in movement and breathing.
If you’re outside King’s Landing, then a Dragon that was of such an advanced age that it refuses to fly literally anywhere else - you’d think it was less fearsome too… Considering it’s essentially out of the picture in terms of warfare… It can still be respected, but nobody is going to fear it anymore.
They basically caged Balerion after the Aerea incident he was also badly injured during that as well. I think keeping him in the dragon pit caused his demise. They should’ve kept him on dragonstone.
@@Katsu_ragiYeah because they have the means to force us to do something if we refuse to. Balerion was the biggest and most brutal dragon in Westeros’s history, no one had the means to force it to do anything 😂
He was fkn wounded, what on earth are you on about... He returned from Valyria with a collection of new scars and one particular huge wound of which nobody ever knew what caused it, but it must've been horrible. That and the age withered Balerion a good chunk before his time. He was as old as Vhagar was during the dance when the dragonkeepers called him sluggish and slow, but Vhagar at that age was still quite mobile. So his visit to Old Valyria must've been the reason he grew old so fast.
@@lmfao1314 dragons in got literally choose which reproductive parts they have. “as changeable as flame” it’s described as so they are kinda both. My theory is it depends on the dragon rider but it’s most likely they just choose depending on their mate.
@@ayecae47 Oooh okay! i just always thought Balerion was primarily male and that Meraxes and Vhagar were primarily female but I find that really interesting so thank you for that little tidbit of information and I appreciate you for not coming at my jugular for not knowing that information because you know how some GOT/HOTD fans can be when you don't know every single fact and piece of information so thank you I appreciate you for being kind in your response teaching me something rather than making me feel like I'm stupid lol💯🤝🏻😊
Balerion was closer to 250 years old at the time when Viserys “claimed” him. You even said it yourself that he was old. Balerion served the Targaryen’s very well during his lifetime, put some respect on his name
There’s actually nothing in the lore that indicates a dragons life expectancy or if they have a growth cap. We all know they grow larger when free and most of the dragons in this story grew up in the dragon pit or in the caves of dragon stone. It’s very possible he could have grew even bigger and older had he been a wild free dragon like the cannibal. As far as his health decline, he was fine before he was claimed by princess Rhena’s daughter and flew off to no one knows where. Only upon return from the disappearance did he come back changed. For the first time the fierce beast was truly injured and never fully recovered from the injuries indicated to be the worst he’d ever suffered and both external and internally. It is widely speculated that he would have lived longer had he never encountered whatever it was that hurt him. So the theory that he reached his max size and end of his life isn’t actually known. And being that every other Dragon was killed or died young, there is no way of knowing.
Yeah now he just wants to sit in the dragon pits and think of the audacity of them for hurting him, he's literally in the dark in disbelief 😂 he's a Leo 😅
Actually, Viserys did technically ride on another dragon. As an infant his mother took him and Daemon on her dragon at least once. That dragon was Meleys, who later became the dragon of Princess Rhaenys, the Queen Whi Never Was.
True, Viserys did accompany his mother and brother on her dragon as an infant. However, in the context of Targaryen tradition, claiming a dragon typically refers to establishing a lifelong bond with one specific dragon, which Viserys didn't do until later in his life.
@@nicksmithnutmilkyes. I wonder why Rhaenyra didn't take her children for a ride on Syrax with her after they were born. That might've prevented the incident.
Theres a theory that it was the maesters who were responsible for the decline of the dragons, so i wouldnt be surprised if they had poised the black dread which was the greatest symbol and weapon of the targaryens
@@licia_bobishka Dragons are flying nukes that can deliver horrible deaths upon entire cities, are often commanded by insane royalty, and can reproduce. Dragons are cool in a TV show but if I lived in a world like this I'd be all in for poisoning the dragon kind.
Balerion was roughly 40 when the Doom struck Valyria. He was almost 150 when the Conquest took place. Dude was almost 250-260 in his age. That isnt to say he was old. It is a statement that when he returned from the ruins of his home something had changed. He had a scar almost 12 feet long (recorded as a 9 foot smoldering black wound that steamed with his blood) which was not there before. Dude was a bred fighter through and through. Respect that title he earned in battle and destruction
@@roddo1955 i dont know much details but one Targaryen princess rode balerion all the way back to the old valyria. And they returned totally messed up. Till to this day there is no good theory on what did such damage to the black dread, the largest dragon known to westeros.
@@roddo1955Balerion encountered a Fire Wyrm supposedly, they were pretty much wingless and legless Dragon/worms, but ofc incredibly strong and can breath fire too
Nope, Balerion died because of his 1st rider Valeryon. He burned some of the valeryon and the others being eaten that's why his color change into black nigga dragon. And died because of black poison.
Visery’s was an idiot. So many death could’ve been avoided if he didn’t do dumb things. He trusted anyone but his brother and put his daughter life on the line so often… Low-key a terrible King.🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Viserys should have married Daemon to Rhaenyra and named Daemon heir. He should have married Laena and waited for her to grow up. They when they had children, Viserys and everyone else would see any male hier would have a better claim than a sibling. But keep the dragon riders blood close, Hightower should not have been brought into it.
@@movieloverfan18 He obviously didnt want to name Daemon his heir and for good reason. What he should've done was push down Daemon in the line of succession until he was beneath Rheanyra. This way, when he had a male heir, that kid would take first place, Rheanyra second and Daemon third. The dance is avoided.
Viserys was control by a vagina. The oldest ploy in the world. Bad handful the king with ambitions to steal the crown. Funny how quickly he went downhill after the first son was born. He wasn't much older than his brother yet looked a century older. He should have never touched his hands, daughter and especially his daughter's BFF. It was bad enough her mother died trying to birth a son but to have her BFF's life to also be to produce an heir that would rob her crown? Gross. And her BFF willingly seducing the king on the eve of his wife's death? I guess she is lucky he didn't try to keep the blood line lure by marrying her. Perhaps Baleron sensed the moral depravity and weakness of his rider. The dragons are deeply bonded with their riders so he also knew he was ill. It was just another damaged relationship he caused and left to rot and fend for itself.
Leave him guys, he's just a random guy who doesn't like Viserys and who spams the same message copied and pasted on each story where we talk more or less about Viserys.. Sad life 😂
Everyone knew how unwell Balerion was after his ride back to the Valyrian ruins with Princess Aerea. I think Visarys intentionally claimed Balerion because he personally wasnt interested in being a dragon rider beyond he felt it was his birth right to claim a dragon. His mother flew him on her dragon with her when he was a baby and he still picked the dragon everyone knew was declining, injured, and hadnt flown in years. It always struck me as a weird choice when there were so many other options for him.
It would have kept the aging dragons from having to go put, since he wasn't much of a ride, maybe he did it so those weaker or dying dragons could relax and not have to worry about someone claiming them and forcing them to.dragon when they're already dragging.
It also that everyone thought Balerion was done for and would never fly again. It is only for Viserys alone, that he flew briefly one last time. Remember, Viserys was chosen by a council and many people still were divided about him and wanted Rhaenys/Laenor instead. And Viserys did not have a dragon. So, Balerion riding with him one last time before dying was him giving Viserys his "blessing" as the rightful king.
@@abyrupus Visarys had claimed Balerion and flown him the one time years before the councel was even thought of. He was no longer a dragon rider when he was chosen. I dont think he was given Balerion's blessing. No one else even made an attempt to claim him after Aerea died, anyone else who thought about it was talked out of it by the dragon pitt masters. If anything Balerion dying immediatly after Visarys claiming him and Visarys being dragonless by the time of the counsel shows he wasnt worthy. Targaryan's health is also directly tired to their dragon's health and he was riddled with a flesh eating virus most of his time as a dragonless king.
@@viceb7 I guess that is a matter if perspective because that just isnt how I see it. Everyone knew Balarion was on the way out the door amd hadnt flown in decades. Even the dragon pit masters convinced his mother into claiming a different dragon over a decade before he was born because they knew he wasnt going to live much longer and she could get a younger healthier dragon. That is how she ended up claiming Maelys. I can see how there is a novelty about claiming him but there is no way Visarys thought he was going to be flying frequently or for long. Visarys 100% knew what he was getting and still said the novelty of claiming a dying dragon with a cool history was better than claiming a different dragon who he could ride regularly. To me is makes him seem weak and lame not badass. It is like going into a boxing match with a former champion for the thrill of saying you beat a champion but the champion you challage is 97 years old and can barely stand anymore. Sure you beat them but it doesnt say anything good about you.
Balerion has the best resume out of all the dragons. Witnessed the doom of Valyria and the rise of the Targaryen Dynasty. So much history involved with him. 💪🏿
I think that balerion would have lived much longer if they didn't put them in a goddamn cage. I can't even imagine how painful that would be for a dragon to be trapped in a box. I know there were a lot of reasons the targaryens were assholes. But I think it's very appropriate that their empire fell after they started imprisoning dragons in the dragon pit
I subscribe to the theory that the Maesters were poisoning the Dragons. Balerion was over 200 at that point but there are so many hints in ASOIAF that the Maesters are unified in trying to rid Westeros of magic.
I heard that too. Dragons live as long they have something to eat. And also has no limits to its size. Once it grow big it cannot grow smaller just thinner. And if starves dies like any wild animal which failed to sustain itself. Happens what often with black or brown bears. They eat each other. But only after other options are seemingly out of reach. They fight each other too without their riders commands. Also I heared Dragons doesnt get sick. But who knows for shure. It doesnt has a fixated lifespan. Dies in battle,accidents,and starvation or whatever else is there left for them to end their lives.
I saw a theory that when Balerion returned from Valyria he had the same parasites in him as the princess but as a dragon, his blood was hot enough to handle it and they slowly killed him.
Balerion; "Viserys I'm old n tired I need somewhere to begin to rest, gotta go out with some of my fire still going, I feel as old n tired as you will look right b4 you die Visy."
I swear people are making up eandims things that never happened in the books to get views because of how big the show it, ad I remember it viserys claimed balerion, flew him around kings landing one time and viserys never rode him again
Thats crazy that they both ended up losing all they worked for at old age. Balerion was that og dragon that saw the conquest and pretty much saw the last true king, then that king went on to die and the whole kingdom with him.
For people who pay attention to lore… The black dress was heavily wounded during his long disappearance prior. Which never properly healed, and he was weakened from then on spending his last decades staying inside his lair until that day he flew Viserys. And then passed the following year.
So stupid for a targaryan to go without having a dragon. The day balarion died he should of claimed the bronz fury. They should do it for security and its just better transportation with only having horses
I think it was confirmed by GRRM that a Targeryen can only claim 1 dragon in their lifetime. Once their mount/dragon dies, their unable to bond with another.
@@ziontenuia9266 that’s contradicting what you said. Saying something has never happened isn’t the same as saying it can’t happen. Which is what you’re saying. Rhaenyra and Aegon II both wanted replacements for Syrax and Sunfyre which they believed they could do. They died before they could but the fact that they believed they could is telling. Viserys could’ve attempted but just didn’t want to.
It was asid in the book Balerion didn't have much strength left in him, Viserys flew him around Kings landing 3 times, but knew he wouldn't have the strength to make it the whole way to dragonstone, Balerion was old and the injury he suffed when he was taken to old valyria weakened him in his twilight years
It was Viserys who ended up not making Balerion fly to dragonstone- He said he would have liked to, but Balerion was Clearly struggling and was very very old.
It's more sensible that balerion was sick because of the wound he got in assumedly Valyria. Could've been infested with the same parasites his rider (forgot her name) had in her body
Dude was just old. It was merely the end of an era. Everything dies. All good things pass - as do all bad things as well. Time is the master of all; even the most fearsome of beasts.
Part of me wonders what if Balerion just barely lived in time for the dance. Who would claim him? Which side would have him? How much would having him turn the tides? How many other dragons would it take to kill him? Would he and Vhagar agree to fight each other?
It symbolized the fall from grace of the Targaryens. Balerion was the ultimate symbol of Targaryens power, he was unmatched, but just like during Viserys’s reign, the dynasty would decline!
Viserys to Dragon Babysitter: “and if he goes, grrrrr, that means he just wants a goat Babysitter looks at the dragon. Balerion: PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!!!!!
I think viserys being such a loving guy made balerion feel comfortable enough to die.
that’s good fr
I like this , it’s canon now for me
That is probably the best analysis I've heard so far.
Damn thats cold
@@Blacklla I wouldn't say cold. Just somber... Poor dragon.
balerion: im in my prime!!!
balerions knees : the fawk you are!
He didn’t betray him. He was just literally an old ass man and was on death’s door. He literally died like half a year later after this it’s a miracle that he lifted himself in the air and flew around the city even.
Balerion probably: “I’m too old for this sh**!”
Imagine going up to your great grandpa that used to be strong and work his ass off, now old, sluggish and dying, and saying “I feel betrayed by your failing health!”.
Not far off the same principle.
Have you read the books? Balerion was also hurt prior to that and never recovered from it. So it's natural he didn't have the strength given that he was old, injured and too big to fly. He didn't even come out of the dragonpit in his last years
He didn’t refuse to do that: he just couldn’t.
Balerion died less than an year after Viseryon claimed him.
He died because he got seriously injured because of his former rider before Viserys combined that with his old age he's basically in death's door at that point
The biggest problems with dragons is the fact they don’t stop growing I mean at a certain age they outgrow most of there food so then what can you feed them
Cattle won’t be able to feed one anymore like look at Vhagar could you imagine how big Balerion was I imagine you’d have to hunt whales to properly feed him
Dragons relationship with their riders is very intriguing. How dragon and rider choose each other. Why one choice and not another. New hatchling choice over old dragon who had many ex riders. Dragons health or death affect on rider. Even how a dragon can choose to burn its master .
Balerion looks like GOT dragon
Why would not flying him to Dragonstone be a betrayal? All dragon riders have a story or two about their dragons not following commands. Visery’s was the actual betrayer, he never tried to bond with another dragon, became a dragon less King, betraying his Targaryen traditions.
The end of an era I belive the dread wanted too but for his age and size it would be painful to land and take off they make comments about this referring to vaghar as she's oldest after him and largest
Balerion wasnt old.
He went to Valyria and something hurted him there, to the point of never been "him" again.
Just check Vhaegar, almost same age and she is still fighting and flying.
Dragons dont die from old age, there was never a record of one doing it annd in old Valyria there were bigger dragons than him.
Balerion didn't betray anyone. He was half dead because of a wound he got flying through Old Valyria, Balerion was on his deathbed by the time King Viserys claimed him.
Betrayal is a stretch buddy a loooooong stretch…
Balerion is not the only dragon Viserys rode, Alyssa took him and Daemon for a ride on Meleys when they were newborns
Helped to conquer a whole kingdom, yet they want more.
I just need to see Balerion on screen in an adaptation of Aegon's Conquest
Um, no, there's no betrayal. Balerion was old, lazy, and dying. He didn't refuse to fly more, so much as was more incapable of going further. It's especially telling that he died shortly after, despite probably having the best care in Westeros, after the king himself.
All riders get only one bonded dragon though a dragon may gave multiple riders i think if someone tried to claim another dragon it would tear them to pieces
To me it seems like balerian was never the same after the entire aerea targaryen thung.
They should’ve given him Icy/Hot. He would’ve been fine.
You want me to watch this after 2 years
The show should have opened with this and shown balerions death
When you're so pathetic that even the greatest dragon choses to die rather than serve you😂
Balerion: I'm too old for this shit.
After Aerea, I can't blame him for being done.
@@sapphicgeek24the big question is still what did he face there ? With those many great fresh wounds,
I still think that a few dragons escape the doom and still wander there, it has to be a big one, nothing else could wound Balerion
@@thedarkblackspeedy3140 honestly thats my theory as well there might be wild dragons still on valeria
@@clayandros2038 I find it very difficult, because there is nothing there that sustains life, apart from the theory that he found Aurion and his dragon, I imagine that he may have fought a Firewyrm which is the only type of being that is capable of surviving there. But about having dragons there, I would have this as ruled out because dragons need to eat a lot to grow and there is practically no food there.
Viserys i : Ok
Balerion a war beast having his final rider being a king of peace. He could finally rest. His conquest was over
That's a good parallel to the night's watch motto for a valyrians to it's dragon by the freehold by dragon instead of: now his watch is over: Now his conquest is over
Someone said viserys being the loving guy he is probably made balerion comfortable to finally die that and this comment of urs gets me 😓
King of peace? Or the king who planted the seeds of one of the worst wars that would lead the entire Targaryen dynasty to its weakest.
Balerion: 'Viserys...you're a nice kid but I am over 200 years old. My joints are aching, my back is killing me and its cold up in the air! I just want to sit and relax. Where are my reading glasses?"
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I like to think that the keepers read to Balerion
I feel like Balerion would have the same speaking voice as Draco from Dragonheart.
HILARIOUS!!!
@@williepearl278That will be Sir Sean Connery.
Balerion: Look, my last rider wanted to go to Valyria and we both got fucked up. I'm done.
Besides Aerea getting those firewyrms inside her body, who do you think managed to fuck up Balerion?
A bigger dragon. Valeria still has unclaimed wild dragons who have never experienced captivity. Imagine what size they couldve reached @@jyotirani8187
@@jyotirani8187my wife I swear her nagging gave aerrea her fire worms and balerieon a wound help me if you dare!!!!
@@m3r594 just do what she asked the first time without making her get after you like a child.
@jyotirani8187 wait, do you think viserys contracted what she had? From riding him?
No betrayal here, Balerion was just far too old.
Balerion imho wasn't just old: he was broken. He saw Valyria, his "home" burnt and destroyed, and he almost died there and suffered terrible injuries and lost his rider.
He probably just gave up at that point. He was there physically, but gave up on life
Or poisoned.. it’s kinda suggested that the dragons were messed with by the maesters. Probably to weaken the great house.. but I’d have to go back and find what book I read that in.
well they where locked in the Dragon pits so they got to little movment and to little food
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they wheren´t on the volcanoes
so they where in to cold surroundings
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and they where probalby poisoned
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and they did to much incest
with way to few acessable mates
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and the dragons that did get to mate where more often the not the weak and sicly once becouse thouse didn´t die in stupid wars
As far as I know, Balerion's wounds never healed as well it wasn't just old age.
@baronbrummbar8691 your comment hurt my brain
”Had become sluggish, heavy and was No longer fearsome beast of the past” my guy it’s a dragon the size of a building that can melt and destroy castles. Claiming it’s not fearsome anymore is just wild.
Of Dragons grow their whole life, then there is a point where they start suffocating because the muscles in their chest aren’t strong enough to support breathing. If Balerion had reached that point, then it is entirely possible that he wasn’t really fearsome in comparison to the younger dragons who could and would kill you if you did a wrong move, simply because he was going out of breath by moving himself. In theory he is still incredibly strong, but his weight limits him both in movement and breathing.
If it can't get to said castle.. who cares?
Duuude....@@stealthretarius9972
That's what the books said too though so...
If you’re outside King’s Landing, then a Dragon that was of such an advanced age that it refuses to fly literally anywhere else - you’d think it was less fearsome too… Considering it’s essentially out of the picture in terms of warfare… It can still be respected, but nobody is going to fear it anymore.
They basically caged Balerion after the Aerea incident he was also badly injured during that as well. I think keeping him in the dragon pit caused his demise. They should’ve kept him on dragonstone.
pit😂
Dragons are sentient creatures in ASOIAF, one doesn’t command a dragon so I don’t think they could MAKE him do anything.
@@hawk66100 we are sentient creatures and we get told what to do everyday.
@Katsu_ragi difference is he had less of a reason to listen
@@Katsu_ragiYeah because they have the means to force us to do something if we refuse to. Balerion was the biggest and most brutal dragon in Westeros’s history, no one had the means to force it to do anything 😂
Balarion just wanted to enjoy a relaxing retirement.
Nothing fucks you harder than time.
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The Onion Knight
Lots things do.
'Fooks'
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He was fkn wounded, what on earth are you on about...
He returned from Valyria with a collection of new scars and one particular huge wound of which nobody ever knew what caused it, but it must've been horrible.
That and the age withered Balerion a good chunk before his time.
He was as old as Vhagar was during the dance when the dragonkeepers called him sluggish and slow, but Vhagar at that age was still quite mobile. So his visit to Old Valyria must've been the reason he grew old so fast.
He was over 200 yrs old, even Vaghar was slower in Dance of the Dragons and he was younger than the beautiful BLACK DREAD!
I thought vhagar was a she dragon🤷🏻♂️
Vhagar is female but people often think she's a male @@lmfao1314
@@lmfao1314 dragons in got literally choose which reproductive parts they have. “as changeable as flame” it’s described as so they are kinda both. My theory is it depends on the dragon rider but it’s most likely they just choose depending on their mate.
@@ayecae47 Oooh okay! i just always thought Balerion was primarily male and that Meraxes and Vhagar were primarily female but I find that really interesting so thank you for that little tidbit of information and I appreciate you for not coming at my jugular for not knowing that information because you know how some GOT/HOTD fans can be when you don't know every single fact and piece of information so thank you I appreciate you for being kind in your response teaching me something rather than making me feel like I'm stupid lol💯🤝🏻😊
@lmfao1314 Yeah, that's cringe. Don't comment under our hilts hurt channel then. The creators are as bad as the viewers, and they are just kinda dumb.
Imagine coming back half dead after seeing your desolated home and while your in retirement they’re still to work you
Balerion was closer to 250 years old at the time when Viserys “claimed” him. You even said it yourself that he was old. Balerion served the Targaryen’s very well during his lifetime, put some respect on his name
208 years old give or take
Put some respec on it! 😂💀
Bruh it’s a fkn book stfu with the respect bullcrap
There’s actually nothing in the lore that indicates a dragons life expectancy or if they have a growth cap. We all know they grow larger when free and most of the dragons in this story grew up in the dragon pit or in the caves of dragon stone. It’s very possible he could have grew even bigger and older had he been a wild free dragon like the cannibal. As far as his health decline, he was fine before he was claimed by princess Rhena’s daughter and flew off to no one knows where. Only upon return from the disappearance did he come back changed. For the first time the fierce beast was truly injured and never fully recovered from the injuries indicated to be the worst he’d ever suffered and both external and internally. It is widely speculated that he would have lived longer had he never encountered whatever it was that hurt him. So the theory that he reached his max size and end of his life isn’t actually known. And being that every other Dragon was killed or died young, there is no way of knowing.
i saw a theory about that was when he flew back to old valyria that he layed eggs
@@jesuschrist9597How would a male lay eggs……
@@a.j.1819carefully! 😂
Yeah now he just wants to sit in the dragon pits and think of the audacity of them for hurting him, he's literally in the dark in disbelief 😂 he's a Leo 😅
@@a.j.1819 The same way Frogs do.
Actually, Viserys did technically ride on another dragon. As an infant his mother took him and Daemon on her dragon at least once. That dragon was Meleys, who later became the dragon of Princess Rhaenys, the Queen Whi Never Was.
Joffrey Velaryon rode on an another dragon besides Tyraxes too ☠️☠️😂😂
@@nicksmithnutmilk He did. I was just pointing out that Viserys himself did actually ride on another dragon besides Balerion.
@@nicksmithnutmilk and that was his last ride
True, Viserys did accompany his mother and brother on her dragon as an infant. However, in the context of Targaryen tradition, claiming a dragon typically refers to establishing a lifelong bond with one specific dragon, which Viserys didn't do until later in his life.
@@nicksmithnutmilkyes. I wonder why Rhaenyra didn't take her children for a ride on Syrax with her after they were born. That might've prevented the incident.
Uhhhh the dragon was tired as shit, you even said it yourself "died old". Why make this complicated??
It's a youtube short. Don't expect quality.
He didn’t refuse Viserys said that he didn’t think he’d make it and He does the next day
Theres a theory that it was the maesters who were responsible for the decline of the dragons, so i wouldnt be surprised if they had poised the black dread which was the greatest symbol and weapon of the targaryens
Why did the maesters have it out for the Targs so badly?
@@licia_bobishka Dragons are flying nukes that can deliver horrible deaths upon entire cities, are often commanded by insane royalty, and can reproduce.
Dragons are cool in a TV show but if I lived in a world like this I'd be all in for poisoning the dragon kind.
@@licia_bobishka the hated magic because only the gifted few could accomplish magic
@@licia_bobishka The maesters were probably still terrified after the damage that Aegon I and his sisters did during the Conquest.
Shhh, it was Otto Hightower who killed Black Dread
Balerion was roughly 40 when the Doom struck Valyria. He was almost 150 when the Conquest took place. Dude was almost 250-260 in his age. That isnt to say he was old. It is a statement that when he returned from the ruins of his home something had changed. He had a scar almost 12 feet long (recorded as a 9 foot smoldering black wound that steamed with his blood) which was not there before. Dude was a bred fighter through and through. Respect that title he earned in battle and destruction
Balerion was a beaten Dragon ever since what happened to it in its disappearance
What DID happen? Such a fascinating story. What could have harmed him in that way?
@@roddo1955 i dont know much details but one Targaryen princess rode balerion all the way back to the old valyria. And they returned totally messed up. Till to this day there is no good theory on what did such damage to the black dread, the largest dragon known to westeros.
@@roddo1955Balerion encountered a Fire Wyrm supposedly, they were pretty much wingless and legless Dragon/worms, but ofc incredibly strong and can breath fire too
@@roddo1955 It's intentionally left a mystery by GRRM. No one knows what happened there.
Nope, Balerion died because of his 1st rider Valeryon. He burned some of the valeryon and the others being eaten that's why his color change into black nigga dragon. And died because of black poison.
I still want to see Balerion in a show. I hope they adapt Aegon's conquest in the future
they will it is sooo hugely requested there is no way they dont it will make them a pretty penny
It’s on the works alongside Dunk&Egg
I'd watch the shit out of it and the dunk and egg stories
Aegon's conquest and Robert's Rebellion are what I want to see the most.
Viserys claiming things he shouldn’t have, Balerion, the Iron Throne
Alicent Hightower 😂
@@bullymaguire7843 💀
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Best king we have seen so far
Best comment on this video 😅
Visery’s was an idiot. So many death could’ve been avoided if he didn’t do dumb things.
He trusted anyone but his brother and put his daughter life on the line so often…
Low-key a terrible King.🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️
Viserys should have married Daemon to Rhaenyra and named Daemon heir. He should have married Laena and waited for her to grow up. They when they had children, Viserys and everyone else would see any male hier would have a better claim than a sibling. But keep the dragon riders blood close, Hightower should not have been brought into it.
@@movieloverfan18 He obviously didnt want to name Daemon his heir and for good reason. What he should've done was push down Daemon in the line of succession until he was beneath Rheanyra. This way, when he had a male heir, that kid would take first place, Rheanyra second and Daemon third. The dance is avoided.
@@movieloverfan18 He should have named Aegon II heir.
Viserys was control by a vagina. The oldest ploy in the world. Bad handful the king with ambitions to steal the crown. Funny how quickly he went downhill after the first son was born. He wasn't much older than his brother yet looked a century older. He should have never touched his hands, daughter and especially his daughter's BFF. It was bad enough her mother died trying to birth a son but to have her BFF's life to also be to produce an heir that would rob her crown? Gross. And her BFF willingly seducing the king on the eve of his wife's death? I guess she is lucky he didn't try to keep the blood line lure by marrying her. Perhaps Baleron sensed the moral depravity and weakness of his rider. The dragons are deeply bonded with their riders so he also knew he was ill. It was just another damaged relationship he caused and left to rot and fend for itself.
Leave him guys, he's just a random guy who doesn't like Viserys and who spams the same message copied and pasted on each story where we talk more or less about Viserys.. Sad life 😂
What kind of stupid question is this? I suppose Balerion ‘faked’ his death soon after???
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Shortcut: Balerion died of aging when Viserys mounted him for the first time.
The rest is BS
Everyone knew how unwell Balerion was after his ride back to the Valyrian ruins with Princess Aerea. I think Visarys intentionally claimed Balerion because he personally wasnt interested in being a dragon rider beyond he felt it was his birth right to claim a dragon. His mother flew him on her dragon with her when he was a baby and he still picked the dragon everyone knew was declining, injured, and hadnt flown in years. It always struck me as a weird choice when there were so many other options for him.
It would have kept the aging dragons from having to go put, since he wasn't much of a ride, maybe he did it so those weaker or dying dragons could relax and not have to worry about someone claiming them and forcing them to.dragon when they're already dragging.
It also that everyone thought Balerion was done for and would never fly again. It is only for Viserys alone, that he flew briefly one last time. Remember, Viserys was chosen by a council and many people still were divided about him and wanted Rhaenys/Laenor instead. And Viserys did not have a dragon. So, Balerion riding with him one last time before dying was him giving Viserys his "blessing" as the rightful king.
@@abyrupus Visarys had claimed Balerion and flown him the one time years before the councel was even thought of. He was no longer a dragon rider when he was chosen. I dont think he was given Balerion's blessing. No one else even made an attempt to claim him after Aerea died, anyone else who thought about it was talked out of it by the dragon pitt masters. If anything Balerion dying immediatly after Visarys claiming him and Visarys being dragonless by the time of the counsel shows he wasnt worthy. Targaryan's health is also directly tired to their dragon's health and he was riddled with a flesh eating virus most of his time as a dragonless king.
I mean, it's pretty badass to say you claimed the largest one ever known and everything tied with him.
@@viceb7 I guess that is a matter if perspective because that just isnt how I see it. Everyone knew Balarion was on the way out the door amd hadnt flown in decades. Even the dragon pit masters convinced his mother into claiming a different dragon over a decade before he was born because they knew he wasnt going to live much longer and she could get a younger healthier dragon. That is how she ended up claiming Maelys. I can see how there is a novelty about claiming him but there is no way Visarys thought he was going to be flying frequently or for long. Visarys 100% knew what he was getting and still said the novelty of claiming a dying dragon with a cool history was better than claiming a different dragon who he could ride regularly. To me is makes him seem weak and lame not badass. It is like going into a boxing match with a former champion for the thrill of saying you beat a champion but the champion you challage is 97 years old and can barely stand anymore. Sure you beat them but it doesnt say anything good about you.
Balerion has the best resume out of all the dragons. Witnessed the doom of Valyria and the rise of the Targaryen Dynasty. So much history involved with him. 💪🏿
He just too old
Time catches catches up to us all even great dragons !
They can live up to 200 years unlike fragile humans who mostly die around 80
are There no giant ships, that cruise the Caribbean...and serve Ice Cream to retired Dragons?
I don't think it was either one. I think it was the fyre wyrms parasites of Valyra that killed him and robbed him of his strength
Bro really saw viserys might be shit and called it time out 😭😭😂😂😂
I think that balerion would have lived much longer if they didn't put them in a goddamn cage. I can't even imagine how painful that would be for a dragon to be trapped in a box. I know there were a lot of reasons the targaryens were assholes. But I think it's very appropriate that their empire fell after they started imprisoning dragons in the dragon pit
The only way a dragon grows is if it’s allowed to roam freely & eat
I subscribe to the theory that the Maesters were poisoning the Dragons. Balerion was over 200 at that point but there are so many hints in ASOIAF that the Maesters are unified in trying to rid Westeros of magic.
Ageons Conquest deserve another banging show
No betrayal. I can imagine what Balerion thought: "Dude, I'm too old for this, I can't. I going to take a nap😴"
I heard that too. Dragons live as long they have something to eat. And also has no limits to its size.
Once it grow big it cannot grow smaller just thinner. And if starves dies like any wild animal which failed to sustain itself. Happens what often with black or brown bears. They eat each other. But only after other options are seemingly out of reach. They fight each other too without their riders commands. Also I heared Dragons doesnt get sick.
But who knows for shure. It doesnt has a fixated lifespan. Dies in battle,accidents,and starvation or whatever else is there left for them to end their lives.
I saw a theory that when Balerion returned from Valyria he had the same parasites in him as the princess but as a dragon, his blood was hot enough to handle it and they slowly killed him.
Balerion; "Viserys I'm old n tired I need somewhere to begin to rest, gotta go out with some of my fire still going, I feel as old n tired as you will look right b4 you die Visy."
Imagine getting it wrong. Visery himself knew the dragon couldn’t but the dragon himself wanted to go so stop ruining the story
"The black dread" sounds fckng cool
It id known thst Balerion had a fireworm infestation. He was plagued with parasites, which he passed on to the other dragons. Thst ended them.
I swear people are making up eandims things that never happened in the books to get views because of how big the show it, ad I remember it viserys claimed balerion, flew him around kings landing one time and viserys never rode him again
It’s cruel that they kept the dragons in the pit.
The dragon just got old stop over thinking it
Balerion was just too old at that point and Viserys mourned for him so much he never claimed another dragon.
Man i just wanna see Balerion The Black Dreead in his full live action form, that would be a sight to behold 🥹♥️😍
How TF is that a betrayal? He was literally too old to fly or fight.
Viserys flew on Meleys when he was a baby with his mama
Who wants to see balerion on screen? Me 🙋♂️
Thats crazy that they both ended up losing all they worked for at old age. Balerion was that og dragon that saw the conquest and pretty much saw the last true king, then that king went on to die and the whole kingdom with him.
For people who pay attention to lore…
The black dress was heavily wounded during his long disappearance prior. Which never properly healed, and he was weakened from then on spending his last decades staying inside his lair until that day he flew Viserys. And then passed the following year.
"A few miles" 400 miles.
So stupid for a targaryan to go without having a dragon. The day balarion died he should of claimed the bronz fury. They should do it for security and its just better transportation with only having horses
I think it was confirmed by GRRM that a Targeryen can only claim 1 dragon in their lifetime. Once their mount/dragon dies, their unable to bond with another.
So bonding with an ageing one is always a bet@@ziontenuia9266
@@ziontenuia9266that’s not true. That’s never been stated anywhere. Viserys didn’t want to claim another dragon it’s not that he couldn’t. In
@@jay-1800 yes it is, he said "Alot of dragons have had multiple riders, no rider or Targeryen has ever been bonded to more than one dragon, EVER".
@@ziontenuia9266 that’s contradicting what you said. Saying something has never happened isn’t the same as saying it can’t happen. Which is what you’re saying.
Rhaenyra and Aegon II both wanted replacements for Syrax and Sunfyre which they believed they could do. They died before they could but the fact that they believed they could is telling. Viserys could’ve attempted but just didn’t want to.
It was asid in the book Balerion didn't have much strength left in him, Viserys flew him around Kings landing 3 times, but knew he wouldn't have the strength to make it the whole way to dragonstone, Balerion was old and the injury he suffed when he was taken to old valyria weakened him in his twilight years
Maybe balerion was just sick and tired. He just wanted to chill like Vermithor. Ever thought of that ?!
Well the dragon died of old age so idk how he could betray him? He was old, can’t help that.
How was he in dragon pit if they said vaghar was too big for it, balerion is bigger make it make sense
Viseryes the peace maker ❤
It was Viserys who ended up not making Balerion fly to dragonstone- He said he would have liked to, but Balerion was Clearly struggling and was very very old.
Maegor is the perfect rider of balerion, because he's more stronger more talented than his father aegon.
Balerion: *literally dying*
Braindead AI short: “DiD bAlErIoN bEtRaY vIsErYs??”
Zamanın da bir ejderha almayıp Fiat egea alan aklımı seveyim 😂😂
It's more sensible that balerion was sick because of the wound he got in assumedly Valyria. Could've been infested with the same parasites his rider (forgot her name) had in her body
Dude was just old. It was merely the end of an era. Everything dies. All good things pass - as do all bad things as well.
Time is the master of all; even the most fearsome of beasts.
Part of me wonders what if Balerion just barely lived in time for the dance.
Who would claim him? Which side would have him? How much would having him turn the tides? How many other dragons would it take to kill him? Would he and Vhagar agree to fight each other?
The dragon was old and moving that mass it's probably very difficult
Blood and Cheese killed King Aegon's bastard nephew, not his son. Prince Aemond is the real father of those children!
Balerion: I'm too old for this shit.
Random youtuber who thinks he's cooking: dID bAleRiOn bEtRaY vIsEries?
I bet you if aegon came back from the dead balerion at 200 years old woulda flew to dragon stone and conquered Westeros 50 times over
Balerion: fly Vhagar instead.
Vhagar: what did you say? You called for me?
Balerion: What? I can't hear you.
It symbolized the fall from grace of the Targaryens. Balerion was the ultimate symbol of Targaryens power, he was unmatched, but just like during Viserys’s reign, the dynasty would decline!
For those Who know the death of Aerea Targaryen, Balerion was probably full of parasitic Fire worms when he died
Viserys to Dragon Babysitter: “and if he goes, grrrrr, that means he just wants a goat
Babysitter looks at the dragon.
Balerion: PUT ME OUT OF MY MISERY!!!!!