Secret Passage Secret Interaction
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Mill Rogue takes advantage of secret passage to refresh the hand and sometimes generate extra value late game | Scholomance Academy |
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Deck need editing.
I have a better list with a different win condition I will post tomorrow after more testing.
Is it bug or something? Cause Secret Passage also make the mana cost return to normal when you redraw it after that spell
Just make a shorcut to the secret interaction.... Jesus mon..
so, what is the new deck list? :c
Biggest disapointment is that it doesn't actually put the Patches I drew turn 1 from my hand back into my deck, so I can get pirate value.
It puts your hand aside, so you can't draw any cards from your original hand with any draw or tutor cards you may pick up from Secret Passage.
Patches says summon from your deck but he's not in a "deck" or "side deck", so I think the game still considers it being in your hand, or just being unavailable until Secret Passage ends it's effect.
Ah yes, the good ol' win a game and gain legend points feeling.
Yes, I understand in theory
It’s still fascinating to me that they printed 1 mana memory jar, a card that got banned during its time in mtg. And memory jar cost 5. Secret passage is incredibly strong
The power of a draw in MTG is different (cards can be lands which are mostly dead), and the mana curve is sharper (5 mana is only expected after like 9 draws). So what's strangest to me is that both of these mean it's even more powerful text in Hearthstone. Not to mention you keep what you draw!
You can't compare two cards in two different games as if they were equal. There's no Urza lands to uncounterably generate you obscene amounts of mana to combo off with, no Moxes to chain multiple Memory Jars with ease, and most importantly, no Megrim to just outright kill your opponent off of nothing but the forced Memory Jar discard. Secret Passage does exactly what it says on the tin and nothing more. A temporary selection of cards for a turn.
@@lMarcusl as someone who has never played mtg this comment is mesmerising
@@lMarcusl Anyway it's goddamn strong. Basically secret passage = Unstopable mira's element without penalty. It's still possibly 2x eviscerate, leeroy, e.t.c. And you can also run 2x coins for 0 mana draw 5 cards combo. If preparation hadn’t been nerfed, I would say that kingsbane rogue would be tier 1
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@@SuperSymn I can explain if you'd like ;)
I have two Golden Secret Passages. Please continue to make this card look funky so I get a sweet refund lmao.
gotta get 2 free legendaries
Same bro, hope it got nerfed so that I can craft GRUUL
If you pull Evocation off of Wand Thief and shuffle them in with Secret Passage, supposedly they remain permanent after that.
So basically, 1 Mana: "Draw up to 9 Mage spells from the deepest pockets of non-existence for free." 👍
Hearthstone became way too random for me and I stopped playing a while go and I don't see myself coming back only to leave it again in a month, but I do really hope that the next expansions will be excellent if it means Dane will produce more quality content
Bro this game is ruined. First by DH and now by broken trash. Every class has easy OTK's now.. Team 5 on some nice drugs
@@deepsleepaddict1220 "waahhhh wahhhhh wahhhhhh"
@@deepsleepaddict1220 guys im literally shaking and crying right now. the eternal format of a card game thats over half a decade old has OTKs in it. im literally crying how could they do this
@@smonkk8556 the class identiy of many classes became created by chains. What a clown fiesta.
Smonkk For people like you is why I always do BM.
5:09 Drunk Shadows
I'm already hyped to see what decks Dane get out of this interaction
"Wait, It's all Mill Rogue?"
"Always has been"
The sound that Wand thief makes when it dies is hilarious!
GZ u Ranked from 1231 to 1238 after that victory it mus feel rewarding
Bigger ALWAYS = better 😉👌
So if I had to guess the reason the shadow doesn’t disappear is bc the shadow disappears at the end of the turn before secret passage comes into effect, the secret passage brings the card back into your hand
It's interesting to see where Mill rogue is at now vs. just a few years ago
my guess is that secret passage hand return triggers AFTER valeera checks for shadow reflections
I'm thinking the copy cards go away before the secret passage gives you the cards back, mechanically.
this is my guess as well. end of turn interactions are a little bit funky in this expansion. another one is trick totem casting power word feast on itself. the spell is cast at the end of the shaman's turn but it's after end of turn triggers, so the full heal part of the card actually happens at the end of the other player's next turn.
@@KolyatKrios Did you catch Brian Kibler of Brian Kibler Gaming ™'s video on that, too?
Blizzard not accounting how newer cards interact with the older wild set sounds...accurate.
Unless this is like the djinn nonsense and everything's working as intended (COUGH COUGH BLIZZ DOESN'T CONSIDER IT WORTH FIXING)
this absolutely is working as intended - the card is taken out of play and the hero power removes it at the end of the turn. since the hero power came into existence before the secret passage was played, its triggered first and doesnt find a copy of the card, so it isnt removed, and then secret passage triggers and the card is put back into play. its weird but it makes sense tbh
@@smonkk8556 Design intentions can be hard to read but my point is this
There's only meant to be one shadow
But the interaction with secret passage subverts this allowing Dane to double or triple dip the value of the shadow. Mechanically what's happening has a logic to it but that undermines the drawback of the shadow
EDIT: My last barb at Blizzard was how with the djinn was how its clearly both nonsense and unintended(entombing a enemy minion makes it a friendly therefore a friendly minion is shuffled into the deck so the djinn follows, if this was a paperback game no sane person would rule it this way) has yet to be fixed(if it has then I've never heard it) so they just...never fix it. Because it's in wild now
I thought blizzard fixed the djinn thing. Or is there a different funky interaction than potion of madness giving djinn "charge" that I'm not aware of.
@@drekbleh7081 i mean the difference is that one is a sane ruling that would work exactly the same in a physical game and the other is strange edgecase jank that blizzard doesnt want to fix. they arent really comparable outside of "haha weird interaction!"
@@drekbleh7081 except that Djinni has been reworked in the knights and it no longer considers himself a good target for potion of madness or entomb.
This combo will be fixed at one point, I believe sooner, rather than later.
So Secret Rogue having a Secret Secret Passage interaction. Seems fitting :')
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How
@@Pepe-pq3om bot thats scripted to link time after intro by analysing video pixels
You can also shuffle echo cards into your deck. Infinite value!
The secret secret passage interaction was definitely a premeditated secret secret secret passage interaction plan by the secret secret secret secret passage interaction plan team of blizzard. But none gives a shit cause this is a 1 mana draw 5 card, wtf?!
Have you tried running wretched tutor for a board clear vs aggro?
Question: since you keep cards that you generate and draw whith your secret passage hand, if you have a full hand when you play it then draw or generate, what happens to cards that can't fit?
Do they shuffle back into your deck or do they just get lost in the eather?
Theoretically infinite draw 5 with Valeera + 2 Secret Passages in hand. Rarely a good play, but has some potential shenanigans with shuffling back in.
Just need one, the Shadow Reflection given each turn.
@@FardHast correct, a single secret passage can be infinitely duplicated so long as it is always the first card you play each turn. Though a second copy would be beneficial as it would allow you to spend a turn to dump cards (since your hand fills up from card draw), then restart the secret passage train later.
did the zephrys not offer him bloodlust or something?
Secret passage elekk with illusion then keep 5 shadows for power play
This control rogue looks interesting
deck code?
So wait? Can you go infinite with the elek?
Sinister strike?
please make a video explaining this interaction
The shadow cards disappear at the end of turn, but since secret passage puts the cards back at the end of turn also, it seems this subverts the check for the shadow cards to disappear, so they stay until the end of the next turn.
Mechanically, this is working as intended, but design wise, this might be unintended and might be patched. we'll see
Can form an otk this bug?/combo?
The long hair suits you lad
you can also keep all spells from evocation
My guess is that it would allow you to keep them for one extra turn just like the shadow reflections, but they would still disappear as soon as you end your turn with them in your hand. Theoretically an infinite secret passage chain would allow you to permanently keep evocation cards.
there's gotta be an otk that can use this as a setup
Galochka xD
Кто понял, тот понял
deck?
wild hearthstone is slowly turning into Yugioh
Wait, your rank went down from winning?
1231 to 1238 yeah wth lol
It seen it happen when people are in legend sometimes. I’ve never been legend myself but when watching people like Dane it seems to have something to do with MMR and stuff like that. I’m only hypothesizing though
Sander De Wulf Your legend rank isn’t fixed like regular ranks. Even if you hit rank 1 legend, if you don’t play for a few days and then come back and play a game even if you win your legend rank will be adjusted to current rankings and you won’t be rank 1 anymore.
Deck code pleeeaaaaseeee
Great video sir
Meeh, no deck code u_u
Weird+v cool
I'm pretty sure it's not working as intended. Imagine the amount of sh*tstorm from Standard players Blizzard'd have to face otherwise.
I feel like this is such a dumb interaction and the fact that blizzard didn't even notice this during play testing is ridicolous. :/ It also workds with Evocation and other discard mechanics...
What? You mean a 1 Mana: "Draw 9 random Mage spells" isn't a healthy interraction for the game?
Have you EVER played Hearthstone before? 😂
Damn man
man i hate mill rogue it feel terrible to play against
Hi
No deckcode = Dislike!
It is easy to figure out the exact decklist.
Pen and paper.
Go.
@@Lu-KN No! Dislike Better!
But this isnt video about this deck, its presentation of interaction between 2 cards
He doesn't post deck lists until they are refined. Usually (but not always like his mill druid) if he likes a deck it will take a couple videos before he's done tinkering with it, then hell post a code.