DLE-20 RC Plane Gas Engine, Learning Series, No. 3 setting up a test stand
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- Опубліковано 3 сер 2023
- In this video I show how to set up the test stand prior to the engine test run. Here I mount the engine, electronic ignition, battery, gas tank, and all the connections to the test stand. I also show how to set the spark plug gap using a feeler gage. In the next video in this series, I will do a test run of the DLE-20 gas engine.
All of these videos will be placed on a playlist.
I am not giving up glow engines, I'm just adding RC gas powered engines to my lineup.
So if you have been interested in running gas rc plane engines, maybe you can learn with me and this series may be helpful. If you are experienced running rc gas engines, then maybe this series will be a little interesting or entertaining, and maybe you can give us novices some pointers!
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Some cool ideas for mounting accessories. Learning quite a bit. Thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks for the video, it was very helpful. This is my first gas engine project as I transition from foamies so I’m in the same boat as you with learning. Good video
Thanks! I want to do more vids on the gas engines as I go as well. I’ll be mounting it soon on my current build. They are pretty cool and Im excited about using a gas setup.
And good luck with your projects!
Thanks.
Hello
There is à very good vidéo from OLIVIER ROGEAU wich explains how to tune carburetter for smooth running, i had one of these ,and had trouble fixing the carbureter but after seeing his vidéos about réglages the engine run for hundreds of flights without problèmes
Thank you for the tip. I will check it out for sure since Im new to the gas engines.
@@JamesRCPlaneTech but dont worry it is à very good engine
Be careful with exhaust pipe , the bolts unscrew after few fllghts.
Have to check them often.
My starting method :
Full choke
Ignition on
Filp propeller counterclockwise until engine pops
Take off choke
Put à little accélération, and flip the propeller, start is immediate
Thanks for the tips. Ill be trying it soon.
Grazie per il video , ben fatto ed integrato dai suggerimenti degli altri utenti
Thanks Marco, next time Ill do a test run.
Putting a manual power switch between the battery and the ignition module make for ease of killing the engine on your test stand.
That makes a lot of sense .. Ya I didn’t think of that. I have the electronic switch, but I didn’t want to set it up. Should have just done what you said!
nice vid. For installing the engine onto the beams I prefer bolts with allen heads for better handling, securing the nuts with locktight for the test
bench run might be an overkill😉
I like the allen heads as well, they were out of them at the store so I went for these. If it was on a plane I would have waited and got the allens. Ya not sure, I put the Loctite because I read that these really vibrate a lot? So we’ll see. Thanks for the insight!
How to remove the crankcase on 58GX2 having a hard time removing it, please help thank you 😅
Yes I used to have a makeshift stand also but it's well worth ordering one from China and using it if you plan to test a lot of engines and a lot of different sizes! The one I have will allow you to use any size from a 049 to a 120 or 20cc or larger!
Hi, i have one of those test stands you mentioned as well, aluminum. I was wondering if it was big enough though for this. Ill check it. I kept reading about how these gas one’s really vibrate so I decided to make one a little beefier than what I have for the wood part. I guess after I run this thing, Ill know how it behaves. Thanks for the suggestions.
@@JamesRCPlaneTech I use mine for my zdz 120 RV gas engine and it's a 20cc and it seems to work really well! I've also had my YS 120 four stroke engine on it just a few days ago!
Ha! Well it looks like I could have gotten away without building a new one! After I get done with the test run, Ill see how it fits on my other stand.
With the cable protectors once you get it started you can actually just screw it on instead of trying to wrap it.
Thanks for the tip. Ya that makes sense.
Awesome as always. Always wondering should I adjust the engine mount to give it an angle of trust or this is already set by the firewall.
Depends on kit. Usually ARFs will have the angle built into it. On a kit build, it will be specified. Some people experiment with different angles.
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Just want to say, I love your videos, which 1 of these engines works best??
Thanks. Im not sure what your question is. But what works best is depends on a lot of things including personal preference. Please provide a little more detail in your question and maybe I can answer a little better 🤓
@@JamesRCPlaneTech I mean in terms of their capability,strength and the durability of them?
Boy thats a hard answer. Since this is my first experience with gas engines and the DLE brand I don’t think I have enough to offer on that. I know DLE is very popular, for glow engines your best bet for all the above would be Saito and OS Engines but they are more expensive than something like a Magnum or other manufacturers. Probably the best thing to do is determine what kind and size of plane you want to fly and then look in the rc forums for info on engines people are using for that or similar planes. And also, its alway a little subjective, people like a lot of different things. Honestly if you get an engine from a popular manufacturer that has been around for many years, you probably wont go wrong . I have always used OS and Saito and love them for all of the above, if taken care of they last forever and are reliable and good quality. Now Im diving into gas powered planes amd I decided to start with a DLE because they have a good following and they are relatively affordable. Hope that helps
Nice video...but why do you have to use a nonmetallic connecting rod for the throttle? 🤔
I think that’s because of the electronic ignition and the sensor on the engine. I guess there is a chance the electric pulse coming off the Hall sensor on the engine could somehow cause electrical interference with the servo or other electrical components. Im not sure how true that is, but its what they recommend. The electric ignition unit is also recommended to be a far away as possible from the receiver and servos to prevent possible interference.
@@JamesRCPlaneTech Oh ok. That makes sense. I've heard that the ignition has to be far away from the receiver and servos but I've never heard of the problem with the connecting rod. Thank's for the info :).
I always go with what the manufacturer recommends. They have their reasons and they designed the engines. So even if Im not sure why they suggest things I go with it until I learn otherwise. There is a lot of opinions on rc forms that go down rabbit holes. I tend to try to keep things simple and generally follow instructions provided in the manuals.
@@JamesRCPlaneTech I think that's a good way. They know best how to handle their products.
Is it normal to have the muffler toward upward or the engine is upside down!
Depends on setup, this engine is designed to be mounted upside down, with exhaust pointing down. I should have mentioned that. I just mounted it upright so it could be seen. You can generally mount an engine anyway you want. Mounting them upside down or sideways kinda hides them better instead of having the head sticking out on top. So people like to do that for plane to look more “scale”
@@JamesRCPlaneTech thanks alot for clarifying
I purchased the same engine. The tank seems to have a larger tube than the carb. What size tube from the tank to the carburetor?
I’ll have to check and see what I have on there.
I checked the tubing I’m using and it looks like 1/8” inner diameter and 1/4” outer diameter. I don’t have the package. And the number on the tubing is Tygon F-4040-A
@@JamesRCPlaneTech I appreciate it! Thanks
Spark plug gap exacta knife blade thickness
You removed the spring now you need to removed the idle stop screw it not needed with Rc control via your throttle servo
Thanks for pointing that out. I was useful to leave it attached on the test stand since I was manually adjusting the throttle with my lever setup. But once a plane I will have to remember to remove it.
Is a evolution 58GX2 gas motor for airplane
sorry I don’t know about all engines. Do you have or can you find the manual. Is it that you don’t know about the parts and such and need that kind of info, like a diagram? Or is it that it’s broken or you can’t remove screws etc.? The manual appears to be available online when searched. Whats wrong with the engine, why do you need to take it apart?
@@JamesRCPlaneTech one, not a boy I'm a man just like you I got this from a friend an he broke four screws inside of crankcase that's why ,I have to remove it . Boy
Hm, sorry. but I wasn’t using “boy” to suggest your age, its a phrase equivalent to saying for example , “oh my” or “oh my, I don’t know” or “oh gee, I’m not sure” etc. hope that clarifies. I edited my first comment to remove the typo.
Also, I had a typo , sorry. I mistakenly typed “Hi boy” and I meant to write “oh boy”… sorry for the typo.
If the bolts are broken off in the crankcase its going to be difficult to remove them. The only way I know is to use a screw extractor, sometimes called an “easy out”. But you will need a small diameter one. You will have to figure out what diameter you need. You can also try drilling the bolt out and then re-tapping the threads to a bigger diameter. Sorry thats all can suggest. Its a tough problem. Good luck
Is it ok to put the engine on the model directly skipping this part. Also, my model requires.46 to.55 glow engine or 50-80 amp esc. Gas option is not mentioned, would it be OK to use suitable size gas engine! The equivalent is an 10cc has. I may go for RCGF stinger. Anyone knows!
Sure you can set up a new engine directly on the plane without breaking it in, but the reason its good to try to break it in a little before on a test stand is that new engines run roughly, and its good to not subject the plane to that extra vibration and roughness. If you do mount it directly on, make sure nothing comes loose on the plane before the maiden. Should be ok. As for gas engine on the plane , if its not designed for it, it could be ok, but for the same power, gas engines need to be bigger than their glow powered equivalents. So to meet the power needs for your plane, you will have to check what the equivalent gas engine will be, and most likely it will need to be bigger, which means it will take up more room and be heavier. You can search online and find comparison charts for gas and glow engines, and that will give you an idea of what size gas you will need then you can evaluate if you to use it. For your first gas powered plane, you may want to get a plane that specifically gives a gas option. Then experiment from there
@@JamesRCPlaneTech amazing 👌
Amazing! How many people with only half knowledge start distributing training videos.
I tried to approach these as sharing what Im doing as I learn it myself, as the title notes. Much to learn for sure. Thanks.
How rude of you, @MKE, to say that!! We all have to start somewhere, and doing a video like JamesRCPlanes Tech did is a great idea not only for him to learn, but also for helping others that are starting out, including those who have been in the RC Plane community for many years (like me, since 1992) and especially for those just starting out with a trainer.
Go find someone else to pick on!! You probably don't even fly RC. If not, keep your comments to yourself, unless they are useful!!
Actually, I am lucky!! I had an amazing instructor, back in 1992, even though everyone at the flying field, including my instructor said that I was a natural!! I wish I could have had videos like James's for when i was starting out into a realm of needing a lot more power than a .40 OS glow engine, lol. I now fly gassers since the late 90's to the present, and I also fly electrics including EDF Jets.
Just use Nylok nuts.
just multiply by 1000 and call it 18 and 20 every one will know what you mean.
Yes 84 equals 8400 rpm.
you always run the single cylinder on the plane being bolted solid can cause the rod to bend they need the vibration and shaking of the airframe you may get lucky and have no issue or it may destroy a new engine just letting you know
Thanks for the insight.
Be careful, that prop can do some serious body harm. I know you know. Just a safety reminder.
Thanks! Proceed with caution
3/4 of the text is a waste of time.
Omg didn’t even start it ….waste of time
Sorry, ya as noted in the title and mentioned in the vid, this was a video on setting up the engine for a test run. There are several steps in setting the engine up so I dedicated an vid to that process. Next vid will be the test run if interested. Thanks
Read the title of the video! It doesn’t say anything about running the engine!!
Don’t use Chinese crap spark plugs they are not reliable use NGK note spark plug gap can be set same thickness as exactly knife blade True
thanks a again, Ill check the NGK plugs out. Was that an “exacto” blade you mentioned?
bilo bi ga samo su te baterije zastarele ima nove tehnologije neki natrijum sumporna bolja i jeftinija