Under a tenth of a second difference is nothing to be ashamed of... and seeing that Evo X get all that air, doing rally shi.. stuff brings a smile to my face. Great battle gentlemen!
watching the side by side the EVO driver had superior lines, and just seemed to be an overall more instinctual driver. the CTR has a higher power to weight ratio which is probably what edged out that tiny victory. if both were to drive the same car, the evo driver would win.
Exactly, 100% agree, Evo IS the best handling car, and its affordable to everyone! Too bad he could have made its handling even better w wider tires like 265/35R18 at least....
Pretty nice to get a good recommendation from the algorithm, and for it to be on a track in my state. Last week, it was a video of a Drift Appalachia event in Southern WV, this week I get a Time Trial shootout at Summit Point. Good stuff.
Is this a joke? 🤣 In the last decade? Let's see, the NSX is more beautiful than anything Mitsu has ever created in history. I'm not gonna bring up the S2000 cuz it's past a decade, but also the TLX is more beautiful than anything Mitsu has ever created too; same with the Integra S.
@@JesusChristwhyamIsosexy Proceeds to list cars that haven't come out in the last decade. The TLX is a cookie cutter family car design. Lancer 10 looks far better than anything Honda has put on in the last decade.
A 275 vs 245 tire width does make a big difference, given how close these two were, and then the fact that Type R had to run his heat at full blast on a 93 degree day, even with all those cooling modifications? I would say this was a huge win for the EVO. The whole point of tracking cars like this is to have fun, full blast heat on a summer day is not my idea of fun. I have a Golf R that I track occasionally and have three sets of wheel and tire setups, one is the stock 235 and the other two are 265, I find the grip difference is significant. Stock the Golf is an understeering pig, but I have done several suspension modifications (a lot more than just sway bars) so it turns in and rotates way better than a Type R, and with the AWD it comes out of corners much faster, Type R's cannot keep up. I have run both sizes with the same compound tires, and on my local club track I am almost two seconds quicker with the wider 265 tire vs the 235 (same day, same tire just different sizes). Oh and on really hot days I ease up (just a bit) and run the AC on track, it's a lot of fun.
Funny thing though, I haven’t seen any Golf Rs get silverware in Gridlife or GTA. Eddie is quick, not sure you’d be able to keep up with his times with only a few HPDEs worth of experience, but I’d encourage you to get out there to show what your mods are really doing. Remember ‘kills’ in a lapping day are nothing more than anecdotes. There’s even quicker Type Rs built to his class specs, not saying Golf Rs aren’t spicy but your comment seems to a have a bit of tunnel vision.
@@blaqjac21 ok and I can say the evo has 2 more drive wheels and a computer that can effectivly put down power to the ground effortlessly even if the driver is being an ape.
It’s interesting to hear the Evo X referred to like it’s some sort of iconic handling benchmark. It’s a great chassis sure but I’ve never heard it brown nosed in that way. I would go as far as to say the CTR is a far more track handling focused car. Specs vs times I think shows that
@@JJdaSamuRai I’ve definitely heard it’s the best handling evo chassis because of the awd system, but that only says so much really. Still a lot of other factors (weight certainly being one), I definitely don’t discount it as a great handling car but again it’s more just the manner in which they’re speaking about it throwing me off
I've seen many time attack evos, there must be a reason for that. I believe the world autocross championship was between an evo and a corvette a few years ago?.
Great video , would like to see the evo on a wider set of tires tho for better comparison . however we know if it did have a set of 275 it would be faster . however one tenth off the type r is nuts ! id guess that evo is about 3400 lbs(stock 3550) vs the type r in the 3000(stock 3100) ish range . so the evo prolly is no faster with the extra hp and 5 speed vs the 6 speed in civic love the type r but didnt buy one over the simple fact of it getting hot like he stated , ended up with a SS 1LE instead .
This is only if he still has enough energy left to invest in GRIDLIFE stuff. I've taken a look at his past GRIDLIFE Time Attack results, points-wise, he's quite good, in within Top 10 overall.
Theres a lot of factors he lets be honest the the evo was undermatched. Yes its awd.... 2008 vs a front wheel drive track car thats practically gutted has way more work done suspension wise than the evo (look at the stability on both cars) and it already weights less than the evo... by alot n no seats?? No drivetrain loss. That's where the civic makes the power to pull out the corners and with the wider tires its goin to feel awd. Yeah honda did great with this car !! But mitsubishi did it in 08 in all weather and thats where it let off.
The Honda's how many years newer. K just trying to be a 4G63T Look at the bore and the stroke. EvoX was like We can make stronger aluminum blocks And it's a square engine like a K.
Compared to what? You could say the same about the Type R, it is one of the best handling mid prices FWD cars, but there is always something better. 275 vs 245 tire width makes a big difference, given how close these two were, and then the Type R had to run his heat at full blast on a 93 degree day, even with all those cooling modifications? I would say this was a huge win for the EVO. The whole point of tracking cars like this is to have fun, full blast heat on a summer day is not my idea of fun. I have a Golf R that I track occasionally and have three sets of wheel and tire setups, one is the stock 235 and the other two are 265, the grip difference is significant. I have done several suspension modifications so it turns in a rotates way better than a Type R, and with the AWD it comes out of corners much faster, Type R's cannot keep up. I have run both sizes with the same compound tires and on my local club track I am almost two seconds quicker with the wider 265 tire vs the 235 (same day, same tire just different sizes). Oh and on really hot days I ease up (just a bit) and run the AC on track, it's a lot of fun.
@@ericmichel3857 I used to own 2 evo x, one mt one sst, the handling is great compare with normal sport sedans, but when I drive the brz and cayman, it’s totally different class.
Nice to see Mark outside of G&G
i found this video after todays GYG video ahaha
I’m happy he’s happy ❤
Wish G&G showcased Mark's driving as well.
Under a tenth of a second difference is nothing to be ashamed of... and seeing that Evo X get all that air, doing rally shi.. stuff brings a smile to my face. Great battle gentlemen!
Thats basically a ty..
Without touching this track in 3 to 4 yrs he mentioned is pretty good on stock tire specs.
didn't realize mark could drive like that let's go mark!!
Hope we can see the same thing in G&G's videos.
I love the Type R but I think this really shows how way ahead of its time the Evo was.
watching the side by side the EVO driver had superior lines, and just seemed to be an overall more instinctual driver. the CTR has a higher power to weight ratio which is probably what edged out that tiny victory. if both were to drive the same car, the evo driver would win.
Wow I had so much hair! This was such a fun time and one close battle😅 Thank you for having me on the show!
That double POV was awesome, a symphony of great sounds 🎉
Pretty impressive for the CTR, less horsepower and not AWD. Way to hang in the little civic.
both are beautiful machines but man the CTR is such a good track car.
Anyone noticed how much less corrective steering was being done in the CTR? Seemed more composed from the driver's POV.
Exactly, 100% agree, Evo IS the best handling car, and its affordable to everyone! Too bad he could have made its handling even better w wider tires like 265/35R18 at least....
Where I'm from, the Evo X was never affordable.
@@yongling9825 I'm sorry dude. May a used evo could fill the gap...
@@Truth-Justice-Freedom Not even a used Evo X classifies.
Pretty nice to get a good recommendation from the algorithm, and for it to be on a track in my state. Last week, it was a video of a Drift Appalachia event in Southern WV, this week I get a Time Trial shootout at Summit Point. Good stuff.
The EVO X is such a beautiful car. I'm sorry, but that design was worlds ahead of anything Honda has put out in the last decade.
Is this a joke? 🤣 In the last decade? Let's see, the NSX is more beautiful than anything Mitsu has ever created in history. I'm not gonna bring up the S2000 cuz it's past a decade, but also the TLX is more beautiful than anything Mitsu has ever created too; same with the Integra S.
Evo cope is hard here.
@@JesusChristwhyamIsosexy Proceeds to list cars that haven't come out in the last decade.
The TLX is a cookie cutter family car design. Lancer 10 looks far better than anything Honda has put on in the last decade.
I have an FL5 and an EVO X this is amazing 😊
Ej2 and Evo X
If i had that kinda money id get an s2000 instead and then a nice daily to go along with it lol
I am jealous I kinda hate it here. no that's awesome bro
@@repingers9777 evo is good daily
I’m trying to be like you and add an. FL5 lol. I got a GRC but I want a FL5/EVOX combo.
A 275 vs 245 tire width does make a big difference, given how close these two were, and then the fact that Type R had to run his heat at full blast on a 93 degree day, even with all those cooling modifications? I would say this was a huge win for the EVO. The whole point of tracking cars like this is to have fun, full blast heat on a summer day is not my idea of fun.
I have a Golf R that I track occasionally and have three sets of wheel and tire setups, one is the stock 235 and the other two are 265, I find the grip difference is significant. Stock the Golf is an understeering pig, but I have done several suspension modifications (a lot more than just sway bars) so it turns in and rotates way better than a Type R, and with the AWD it comes out of corners much faster, Type R's cannot keep up. I have run both sizes with the same compound tires, and on my local club track I am almost two seconds quicker with the wider 265 tire vs the 235 (same day, same tire just different sizes). Oh and on really hot days I ease up (just a bit) and run the AC on track, it's a lot of fun.
Funny thing though, I haven’t seen any Golf Rs get silverware in Gridlife or GTA. Eddie is quick, not sure you’d be able to keep up with his times with only a few HPDEs worth of experience, but I’d encourage you to get out there to show what your mods are really doing. Remember ‘kills’ in a lapping day are nothing more than anecdotes. There’s even quicker Type Rs built to his class specs, not saying Golf Rs aren’t spicy but your comment seems to a have a bit of tunnel vision.
cope is unreal,Evo lost lol. Exp when the evo driver has been around this track before unlike the fk8 driver, and has more power
@@nickbuchanan4179 that evo weights like 3500 pounds the civic is only 3100 . 40 50 hp is NOT over coming that weight difference at all
@@blaqjac21 ok and I can say the evo has 2 more drive wheels and a computer that can effectivly put down power to the ground effortlessly even if the driver is being an ape.
pray for my project car to be good, im putting k20c4 in fd2 body with integra trans. Hope it comes out good
That track has so many god damn turns I almost got sick doing a ride along lol
It’s interesting to hear the Evo X referred to like it’s some sort of iconic handling benchmark. It’s a great chassis sure but I’ve never heard it brown nosed in that way. I would go as far as to say the CTR is a far more track handling focused car. Specs vs times I think shows that
As far as Japanese awd systems go I guess I’d say it’s the best besides the expensive atessa but that’s all I can think of.
@@JJdaSamuRai I’ve definitely heard it’s the best handling evo chassis because of the awd system, but that only says so much really. Still a lot of other factors (weight certainly being one), I definitely don’t discount it as a great handling car but again it’s more just the manner in which they’re speaking about it throwing me off
I've seen many time attack evos, there must be a reason for that. I believe the world autocross championship was between an evo and a corvette a few years ago?.
This was very fun to watch. Happy for Eddy, and glad the Evo was competitive. Wonder how the DSM would do out there. 🤔
With the tire difference size wise between the two, that evo is very impressive
Every time i think about getting rid of my FK8 i’m reminded why I shouldn’t
Love this series!
Great idea for a show. Come to an autocross and try to beat my Tercel 😉
We just need way more of these
Great video , would like to see the evo on a wider set of tires tho for better comparison . however we know if it did have a set of 275 it would be faster .
however one tenth off the type r is nuts ! id guess that evo is about 3400 lbs(stock 3550) vs the type r in the 3000(stock 3100) ish range . so the evo prolly is no faster with the extra hp and 5 speed vs the 6 speed in civic
love the type r but didnt buy one over the simple fact of it getting hot like he stated , ended up with a SS 1LE instead .
We need Mark at Grid Life . That evo looks spicy 🌶 .
This is only if he still has enough energy left to invest in GRIDLIFE stuff. I've taken a look at his past GRIDLIFE Time Attack results, points-wise, he's quite good, in within Top 10 overall.
I miss running in the gridlife series and hope to be back soon
the racing noises are intoxicating. +1 for mic placement
Foreals
Awesome race. Love how close it was. Curious if 255s would have been the difference for the Evo
Coming from an awd, I actually feel like the CTR has more grip in the corners. Also close to zero understeer
Mark is a hot shoe !! Nice G&G
those cars sound amazing.
from the side by side or top and bottom video comparisons of each car, the type R was definitely ahead by a tenth.
This tracks looks GREAT
Nice to see Mark's ride
Theres a lot of factors he lets be honest the the evo was undermatched. Yes its awd.... 2008 vs a front wheel drive track car thats practically gutted has way more work done suspension wise than the evo (look at the stability on both cars) and it already weights less than the evo... by alot n no seats?? No drivetrain loss. That's where the civic makes the power to pull out the corners and with the wider tires its goin to feel awd. Yeah honda did great with this car !! But mitsubishi did it in 08 in all weather and thats where it let off.
Lovely idea to put mic inside engine bay! ❤
The seems like it’s flying and the type R more planted . Congratulations CTR
Great cars and great race.
Calling the fk8 the best fwd car in the world is an insult to the ep3, dc5 and most important the dc2 type r.
But it's a fact
The best FWD and the best handling is the civic, what's the evo?
Lol who the f says the evo is best handling, these nerds?
Description: "...pitting the FK8 Civic Type R's all-wheel-drive prowess against the Evo X's renowned handling"
🤔😅
Nice battle!
Lots of cameras angles doesn't equal better. If going to do that at least show one lap of front view
Loved this
Is that a kuruma from GTA 5???!!! 💯🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥
The Honda's how many years newer. K just trying to be a 4G63T Look at the bore and the stroke. EvoX was like We can make stronger aluminum blocks And it's a square engine like a K.
Evo X is 4b11t.
@@Turshin👍
Forgetting the fact the type R is a “do it all car.” More space, better MPG, and it makes for a great track car…all in one.
@@TurshinFun fact, a modern 4B11T is a Hyundai N engine.
@@paulklp8262 Hyundai has a history of using Mitsubishi engines.
Evo guys coping so hard 😭🤣
I am interested in driving on the show. I have 2013 Fiat 500 Abarth.
The guy saying the time sheets suck!
Evo ❤
Are people really saying the EVO X is one of the best handling cars?
According to these nerds.
CTR no awd still kick ass
The timing of commercial 😅
Yay
Look how easy the guy looks driving the civic the evo is fighting with the car lol
I own a 2019 civic type r
Def faster jk but it would be cool to see
Evo X problem is only a weight.That all.
Weight. Bad tech. Mitsubishi crap reliability
Weight yes. Tech is subjective and upgradable - I'm fine with it. I haven't had a reliability issue with mine, a semi daily, since I got it in 2017.
Evo x handle’s great, but it definitely not the best handling car.
One of the best
Compared to what? You could say the same about the Type R, it is one of the best handling mid prices FWD cars, but there is always something better. 275 vs 245 tire width makes a big difference, given how close these two were, and then the Type R had to run his heat at full blast on a 93 degree day, even with all those cooling modifications? I would say this was a huge win for the EVO. The whole point of tracking cars like this is to have fun, full blast heat on a summer day is not my idea of fun.
I have a Golf R that I track occasionally and have three sets of wheel and tire setups, one is the stock 235 and the other two are 265, the grip difference is significant. I have done several suspension modifications so it turns in a rotates way better than a Type R, and with the AWD it comes out of corners much faster, Type R's cannot keep up. I have run both sizes with the same compound tires and on my local club track I am almost two seconds quicker with the wider 265 tire vs the 235 (same day, same tire just different sizes). Oh and on really hot days I ease up (just a bit) and run the AC on track, it's a lot of fun.
@@ericmichel3857 I used to own 2 evo x, one mt one sst, the handling is great compare with normal sport sedans, but when I drive the brz and cayman, it’s totally different class.
@@claudedottin1312 May be one of the best sedan.
Nobody said it was the best. One of the best tho for sure.
One day
Honda baby
I thought that all evos were awd.
They are.
@yongling9825
Ty I misread caption thinking frontwd vs rwd
2050 --> the best handling car still he EVO X. I fuckup who says else.
Evo need a good driver 👍
Omg its a a a fcking evo🥶🥶
Ridicule host oh geez
I think it's evo X not evo X
The s2000 is the best handling car
In the dirt too?
@@DrivingLine and in the snow lol
@@DrivingLineyou see any dirt road on this time attack track… subaru better anyways
Subaru better in the dirt.
Evo is not the best handling car. These idiots dont know shlt.
Couldn’t even break 1:40? Stock fk8 will break 1:40 on shenny.
Pick me @riceboxej1