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  • Ivins, Utah was put under a microscope following a child abuse case that garnered worldwide attention. When EMTs, paramedics and firefighters responded to the call on August 30, 2023, they weren’t sure what to expect.
    “I think we just get the hand that we’re dealt and we show up and we do are job no matter what cards those are,” said Maddee Ickes with Santa Clara-Ivins Fire & Rescue. Ickes, at the time was an EMT still in paramedic school. “There was a lot more depth to the call then kind of what I had imagined.”
    Ickes was one of the first emergency responders to reach ‘R’, Ruby Franke’s son who courageously called for help at a neighbors home.
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  • @jewels5034
    @jewels5034 6 місяців тому +489

    That 60 page journal should bring charges of attempted murder. Ruby needs to be put away for life.

    • @rainbowmom7582
      @rainbowmom7582 6 місяців тому +10

      Agree completely 💯

    • @Cindy-nf6qv
      @Cindy-nf6qv 6 місяців тому +21

      I totally agree, better yet, i think they should get done to them as what they did to their children, every bit of it and see if they still think they are innocent. i thought she was getting 30 yrs, but 15....what??? are you fricken kidding me? and out on good behavior, prob serve 10 yrs. i hope those kids never speak to her again, cuz she will be out and still young. i am sick about this. yes they should have life. looks like Jodi never missed a meal....plus she ate the kids meals...as fat as she was. so sad

    • @cherychabot6750
      @cherychabot6750 6 місяців тому +14

      I agree too because if they did not get caught I have a funny feeling one of the children would have ended up deceased.

    • @FT-jh2pu
      @FT-jh2pu 6 місяців тому +5

      Life is too much. 100 years is enough

    • @daniellehendricks1717
      @daniellehendricks1717 6 місяців тому +6

      I'm filled with so much disgust and rage that a mother could allow this to take place and even play a role in her own children's attempted murder /physical abuse . My heart goes out to this family and anyone affected by this . God be with you all .

  • @olderwiser64
    @olderwiser64 6 місяців тому +305

    Please find out which public officials would not give the search warrant every time Shari Franke called. Don’t stop reporting now. These children were being abused and neglected for a very long time. Getting a search warrant to check on children should be the lowest possible threshold.

    • @christinadiaz4349
      @christinadiaz4349 6 місяців тому +31

      Ruby and Jodi were very influential people in that community. They were making millions.

    • @denisehall4818
      @denisehall4818 6 місяців тому +21

      Unfortunately this happens a lot in all states.Many abused kids just fall under the radar.

    • @Notmep
      @Notmep 6 місяців тому

      @@denisehall4818this is Utah though! The entire state government is run by the cult/ church

    • @MichaelaGronemann
      @MichaelaGronemann 6 місяців тому +22

      Mormon White,Rich in Utah 😈😈😈

    • @jeffreymartin6369
      @jeffreymartin6369 6 місяців тому

      It’s typical Utah crap. Mormon country

  • @keycaru
    @keycaru 6 місяців тому +67

    The fact that R went to get help showed that he still had faith in humanity despite what his own mother did to him.

    • @nutinliket2498
      @nutinliket2498 6 місяців тому +12

      He went to turn himself in he was convinced he had no other recourse, he was broken his Mother had mentally broken him to the point he felt he was to blame, his Mother kept telling him to repent or be sent to JAIL and he opted for jail, that why he said to the neighbor to please take him to nearest police station and it was "personal business" bless his little broken heart.

    • @deborahpoole9710
      @deborahpoole9710 6 місяців тому +1

      His bravery and wherewithal to get help despite what had been done to him shows a constitution beyond. So glad they were able to be rescued. Those two monsters need max punishment!

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому +1

      the divine spark that we all have (and which no man-made religion owns) will always pull us through the darkest night - I am so proud of this little guy, that he listened to his survival instincts and made it through hell

  • @KristenLB
    @KristenLB 6 місяців тому +107

    Really emotional seeing the sweet paramedic be emotional, and speak about him so kindly and caringly, like a real mother would.

    • @madisonhartwick8114
      @madisonhartwick8114 6 місяців тому +8

      Every time I see a video of her, I’m always so grateful it was her who arrived on the scene. They needed to see and be around a loving woman. I bet it was the exact person those children needed in that moment.

    • @ccrider3435
      @ccrider3435 6 місяців тому +1

      Reminds me of how much variety of shocks and horrors that first responders can face over their careers.

    • @annoar9776
      @annoar9776 6 місяців тому +1

      @@madisonhartwick8114 also the woman in the house where R got to. and the man. just loving and caring people were what he needed!

    • @rhondacranford5389
      @rhondacranford5389 6 місяців тому +1

      Yes❤❤

  • @Writer777-wanna_be.
    @Writer777-wanna_be. 6 місяців тому +201

    The neighbor said”we know there’s been problems at this neighbor house”. Wonder what things they heard??? He needs to be interviewed

    • @Notmep
      @Notmep 6 місяців тому

      Mormoms protect other Mormons, it’s a sickening cult

    • @jgr_lilli_
      @jgr_lilli_ 6 місяців тому +13

      Neighbours of their family home in Springville said they saw the kids wandring outside on the street, not wearing shoes, sometimes knocking on doors asking to play with their kids (who were at school). Idk about the neighbours in Ivins though, maybe they're not open to the public for witness protection reasons.

    • @f.lo.w1622
      @f.lo.w1622 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@jgr_lilli_ IIRC that happend in their family home, not at Jodi's place.
      Russel and Eve had been pulled out of school a long time ago and were roaming around the neighborhood, asking for playmates that were all at school at that time.
      Jodi lived somewhat "exclusive" with few families around.
      But I think I read somewhere that there was always a lot of noise from the kids when they were outside and that they were spotted without shoes etc in extreme weather conditions.

    • @jgr_lilli_
      @jgr_lilli_ 6 місяців тому +2

      Ah, see I mixed that up! Will edit my comment!

    • @be.A.b
      @be.A.b 6 місяців тому +12

      They spotted the kids weeding and doing chores without shoes in 100°+ weather. They called CPS a number of times, but cps did nothing.
      Apparently Ruby had more or less already abandoned the kids back in springville. She would leave them for weeks at a time, while she visited Jodi in Ivan’s for their cult endeavors. Once the springville neighbors started calling cps, she brought them to Ivan’s in order to “fix them.”
      They definitely would have ended up deceased. Jodie was giving her an out of motherhood, filling her head with cult grandiosity.

  • @Marnarose4433
    @Marnarose4433 6 місяців тому +155

    Kevin should not get custody. He was only interested in how his child abusing wife was doing. He is just as sick as her! The only reason Ruby is regretful is because she was caught!

    • @cuckertarlson5310
      @cuckertarlson5310 6 місяців тому

      I think he's worse. I think Jodi, Ruby and Kevin all were involved. Kevin left to establish plausible deniability. He's a cuck he likes men and women pawing at his wife.
      I can picture Ruby going out and desperately flirting with the neighbors(who were showing her pity) while Kevin is inside watching from the window and touching himself.

    • @FrancesLarsen-z3h
      @FrancesLarsen-z3h 6 місяців тому +2

      Where are those children staying? Are they receiving any kind of medical/psychiatric treatment? I haven't been able to find any updates for some reason...

    • @cuckertarlson5310
      @cuckertarlson5310 6 місяців тому

      @@FrancesLarsen-z3h You're not going to unless the children themselves and the guardians want that information out. Only thing you can do is hope they are alright.

    • @magical8013
      @magical8013 6 місяців тому +2

      As far as I'm concerned he was involved.

    • @Sixty_Five_Pronghorn
      @Sixty_Five_Pronghorn 6 місяців тому

      @@FrancesLarsen-z3hThey’re in custody of the state, which means that they’re probably living in foster care and getting mandatory medical/psychological treatment.

  • @dsherwood3889
    @dsherwood3889 6 місяців тому +160

    All the parents who have been in connexions need to be investigated.

    • @JeantheSecond-ip7qm
      @JeantheSecond-ip7qm 6 місяців тому +47

      And the Mormon bishops that recommended Jodi to their church members.

    • @caseyjude5472
      @caseyjude5472 6 місяців тому

      And all the other “therapists” who use her “modalities”. They accuse children of self-pleasuring before they even know what it is, and think Satan is responsible for wet dreams. There are thousands of children being brought up with these cult beliefs in Utah & Idaho.

    • @jgr_lilli_
      @jgr_lilli_ 6 місяців тому

      Many other families were also torn apart by Jodi and her teachings, some were even banned form their church and lost their job because Jodi broke comfidentiality and told them details of what they said in her "therapy", making it sound like they were all se*ual perverts and molesters.

    • @AmysAttitude
      @AmysAttitude 6 місяців тому +13

      When the people "investigating" are involved, there is no point.

    • @rainbowmom7582
      @rainbowmom7582 6 місяців тому

      @@JeantheSecond-ip7qm💯💯

  • @Bess9779
    @Bess9779 6 місяців тому +254

    Ruby hasn't changed. She just knows how to manipulate & play the game. She was mentally messed up long before Jodi. Check the documented timeline of everything before assuming she's sorry.

    • @MichaelaGronemann
      @MichaelaGronemann 6 місяців тому +16

      Thats so true

    • @KristenLB
      @KristenLB 6 місяців тому +32

      Absolutely. You can just see in her eyes in the video where they get her at the police station for the first time and it is haunting. She isn't sorry in the slightest, and you can tell she's calculating everything she's doing, and now she finds it advantageous to throw Jodi under the bus and claim she's a victim of that, just like her husband is claiming he was just a victim of Jodi too. She'll do anything to try to absolve herself of HER insanity.

    • @Brassie25
      @Brassie25 6 місяців тому +18

      Yes. First she’s done nothing wrong, then she was fighting evil, then finally it’s Jodis fault.

    • @hairyscotman
      @hairyscotman 6 місяців тому

      DEMONIC, EVIL people....both of them....lost souls....

    • @connieburge2298
      @connieburge2298 6 місяців тому +12

      I think deep down Ruby thinks she's a bad person. Rather than deal with her own pain she projected all her fear and rage onto her children. Since she doesn't have power with herself she demands to have control of her children. Being in therapy because you think you're a bad person takes years and years of hard work. As long as she believes she is bad (and now she really is) she will be a danger. That's just my opinion, speaking from personal experience.

  • @seorin__
    @seorin__ 6 місяців тому +24

    DO NOT LET THESE CHILDREN LIVE WITH KEVIN!!!! HE KNEW THEY WERE BEING ABUSED BEFORE THE DIVORCE

  • @TiffinyHarrington
    @TiffinyHarrington 6 місяців тому +73

    Little Man R is the bravest and strongest hero ever and sweet little E is too. They resisted all along and were not broken. May they know love, peace and contentment💙

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      may they know true peace and real love

  • @MrsRuffntuff1
    @MrsRuffntuff1 6 місяців тому +65

    Franke complaining about how tight the cufffs were was literally disgusting I guess they should have put plastic and duct tape first like she did to her child.

    • @e.k.4508
      @e.k.4508 6 місяців тому +4

      That was Jodi complaining, not Ruby

    • @florencebentley6081
      @florencebentley6081 6 місяців тому +2

      Pray that ruby gets prison justice for what she did for her own children. Oh it’s coming can’t wait

  • @olderwiser64
    @olderwiser64 6 місяців тому +118

    What is really sick with Jodi is how she blames R for the wounds he had. They didn’t give him those wounds she says-he did that to himself because he wouldn’t stop moving around-after they hogtied him with rope and metal handcuffs. 🤬😢

    • @eli08miqui09
      @eli08miqui09 6 місяців тому +5

      Wow the delusion she has. It’s amazing how she blames her son and not herself. I can’t believe there are people like that in the world.

    • @dnlhrrng
      @dnlhrrng 6 місяців тому

      If you look into what "Conexxions" was really about, it was basically pseudo-psychology that let Jodi attack people and then blame her victims for their pain.

    • @gsmith6026
      @gsmith6026 6 місяців тому +3

      😢😢😢. My gosh, I hope these children can heal.

    • @xxBelieber97xx
      @xxBelieber97xx 6 місяців тому +4

      Pretty typical of them to blame everyone else. I used to watch some videos from Connexions out of curiosity....there were people calling for parental advice. Ruby and Jodi would ALWAYS blame the victim

    • @dnlhrrng
      @dnlhrrng 6 місяців тому +2

      @@xxBelieber97xx Connexions was entirely about victim blaming, and Jodi blaming the pain she caused people entirely on the victim too.

  • @GamerGrrrlAlex2.0
    @GamerGrrrlAlex2.0 6 місяців тому +79

    Don't be fooled. Ruby was abusive to her older children too (often involving withholding food) long before Jodi became a part of her life ... she just sees that passing the blame will get her off more quickly. The evil upon the Franke family is due to Ruby and Kevin ... the children are innocent and have been begging police and CPS for years. Please don't stop digging for the truth because it would be an injustice to "R".

    • @suzannec8400
      @suzannec8400 6 місяців тому +2

      She was never really all there.

    • @FlatwaistBloat
      @FlatwaistBloat 6 місяців тому

      No, Ruby was abusive towards the younger children not the older children

    • @GamerGrrrlAlex2.0
      @GamerGrrrlAlex2.0 6 місяців тому +2

      @@FlatwaistBloatI'm talking of 8 Passengers days, she has always used food against all the kids ... the 2 older minors I don't know much about their situation, but the oldest 2 had it bad too ... definitely not as bad as R and E but still abusive.

  • @eltigremadre
    @eltigremadre 6 місяців тому +120

    They both need life sentences. You think they're going to change being evil?

    • @raqueacevedo1509
      @raqueacevedo1509 6 місяців тому +10

      Whatever is in them, will never leave. They're a danger to society. I hope these children are far away from their relatives and church. They failed them big time. Shame on them!!

    • @cherychabot6750
      @cherychabot6750 6 місяців тому +3

      You can't change evil.....

    • @sarahlevi492
      @sarahlevi492 6 місяців тому +4

      They will never change. They put this changed persona act infront of the judge but listening to their phone calls shows who they really are.

    • @yarnpower
      @yarnpower 6 місяців тому +1

      Their lack of empathy enabled these two women to torture these children without any guilt or remorse and creepily with a bit of enjoyment at their discomfort.
      I don’t believe that an adult can develop a sense of empathy, their lack of one is permanent so those two will always be a danger to society, whether a child, a weak or elderly or handicapped adult.
      They can pretend remorse but it is just an act to get less prison time or some perk or support. Sociopaths do not change.

    • @deanpd3402
      @deanpd3402 6 місяців тому

      In Australia we call people like this, far gone beauts. In the UK they call them doo lally tap. There is nothing that can be done to change them.

  • @madisonhartwick8114
    @madisonhartwick8114 6 місяців тому +52

    I was always worried about the youngest of the siblings. That little boy always had dark circles around his eyes as if he was sleep deprived and malnourished. And the two youngest girls were always anxiety ridden, blinking nervously and had the faces of complete heartbreak every time they were in front of a camera.
    How this went from abuse to repeated attempted murder…the entire case shocks the senses.

  • @raqueacevedo1509
    @raqueacevedo1509 6 місяців тому +51

    Apparently Ruby in one of her phone calls she sais " I have so much compassion for these women" keep her in jail it seems it's where she is compassionate..not with her children. Leave her locked up, please!.

  • @msotrfan1
    @msotrfan1 6 місяців тому +118

    When it comes to Ruby, I think it's all for show. This goes way back before Jodi, and it's all documented right there on 8 passengers. She knew exactly what she was doing, and I think she should get the full 30 years.

    • @janicedevereux2839
      @janicedevereux2839 6 місяців тому +7

      I agree..
      She should get more time because she is their Mother Jody isn’t ..
      It’s Ruby, who is the manipulator as she stood there in court prior to sentencing … claiming she was manipulated… Meanwhile, we saw the journals, and this goes way back.
      I believe that Jody is just a sick woman, and really believes what she says .
      At the end of the day, Ruby abused her children, got her husband out of the house, kept her husband from their kids, with manipulating the husband to get the cars in her name, and was working on getting the house in her name.. therefore she’s not only abusing her kids she’s money hungry.

    • @msotrfan1
      @msotrfan1 6 місяців тому +4

      @janicedevereux2839 You nailed it. I say that too. Those are her children. She was supposed to protect them at all costs. She committed the ultimate betrayal. I understand why they offered a plea deal, so the kids wouldn't have to testify, but at the same time, life without parole would have been perfect justice.

    • @janicedevereux2839
      @janicedevereux2839 6 місяців тому +6

      @@msotrfan1 yes, it does the kids to testify, but I believe their decisions was self serving…
      To have a trial, the world was going to know the details of what they did .
      Unbeknownst to them when they were sentenced, they probably had no idea that those journals would become public .

    • @rubyoro0
      @rubyoro0 6 місяців тому

      @@janicedevereux2839. I thought I heard the house was Jodie’s.

    • @openlybookish
      @openlybookish 6 місяців тому +4

      IMO 30 is too soft of a sentence.

  • @wrathofoprah9557
    @wrathofoprah9557 6 місяців тому +48

    Kevin Franke and Pam Bodtcher need to face charges now.

    • @gsmith6026
      @gsmith6026 6 місяців тому +6

      YES!!!!! Kevin claims he didn’t know what was going on but, he was there when the oldest son was sleeping on a bean bag, when the 6 yr old forgot her lunch and Ruby refused to take her food or let the teacher give her any food. Kevin was there and could have stopped Ruby.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      Pam is President of that looney bin company 'Connexions'

  • @optimistprime7897
    @optimistprime7897 6 місяців тому +50

    Such a BRAVE Boy 💛 I really hope he knows how courageous he was that day. I really hope that he could celebrated as the hero he is for saving his siblings and himself 💛

    • @Renee-wy1po
      @Renee-wy1po 6 місяців тому +3

      Sad that the little girl was there with him a he didn't get to see her 😢

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      and many other children that we don't know about .... yet

  • @joseelafrance4807
    @joseelafrance4807 6 місяців тому +46

    everyone says that Ruby had clarity about her crimes once she was gone away from Jodie. Noooo Ruby was abusing these kids prior to being around Jodie. she wrote those diaries because she wanted to relive her control. she enjoyed this abuse torture. she did find out in jail that she needs to act remorseful to get less time. She is queen manipulator and the only remorse she has is the fact that she was caught and lost the liberty to continue to torture and feel the power she felt. i am not fooled by her and hope that the board sees through her bull!!!!!

    • @brendapouncey6475
      @brendapouncey6475 6 місяців тому +2

      You are so spot-on! I see right through that. She is not as smart as she thinks she is, I just hope and pray that the parole board does as well.

    • @mariaquesada8626
      @mariaquesada8626 6 місяців тому +3

      It’s so obvious!I don’t understand how people don’t see it.

  • @boondoggled1
    @boondoggled1 6 місяців тому +84

    It’s bizarre that Jodi states “we can’t even raise our kids any longer”…….they are NOT HER kids……bizarre….was she in love with Ruby or placed by her church to do this crap? Jodi’s counseling was not normal, even marriage counseling was very unethical….which we all know their church does this crud. Ruby stated ….. the devil has been chasing her for years……nope the devil caught her years ago

    • @Loveroffood41
      @Loveroffood41 6 місяців тому +23

      I honestly think that Jody and ruby were lovers.

    • @stevemccann4166
      @stevemccann4166 6 місяців тому +8

      I always thought Jodi and Ruby were more than just business partners. Maybe that’s why the husband was ‘invited’ to leave.

    • @kevinklose
      @kevinklose 6 місяців тому +5

      Oh my goodness, that would make so much sense... Why she wanted to get the husband out of the picture...

    • @shawnafsworld7431
      @shawnafsworld7431 6 місяців тому

      @@stevemccann4166
      Ruby told her husband Kevin Frankie again and again and again
      That He WAS Evil and He had the Devil in him too stuff like that so much so that she Mentally tore him down too no wonder Kevin Left Her. Ruby’s clearly Insane
      but him leaving the family And NOT Taking his Own Children to safety Shows how awful she was and Kevin not even Notifying the police when HE Knew His kids were in trouble he’s in the Videos people have Re-uploaded from her channel ,
      ( 8 Passengers ) that Once was on UA-cam which
      the channel was removed
      But people saved video Clips And the kids Told
      the school and
      St. George police and
      ( for 2 Years the kids were saying they were being abused and saying things were going on at home
      - The school , Cps ( Child protective services )
      &
      the Police didn’t Believe the allegations the kids were saying )
      then and the School , the other police and Cps All
      Did nothing To help
      The kids ) and they had
      to go through Even More Abuse and trauma for
      2 more Years until the boy escaped the handcuffs and thank god he got away from Jodi. and he ran to a Neighbors house For help no one was home at the first house
      so he Went to another house
      - and that’s when you
      hear the older Guy on the phone talking to the 911 operator who then sent out the
      2 officers and The Paramedics to Help the
      12 year old he was so Skinny sitting on that Ambulance gurney
      - from police footage both Children are So Emaciated from Starvation. By Ruby
      After the police arrested Ruby said - this is a witchHunt and The Devil himself is after me ) and that the Devil has been after her for years the looks like the Devil has finally got her )
      She’s Insane Maybe Ruby should be sentenced to the State mental hospital instead
      a Teacher who called Ruby From the School
      once , the teacher saying Rubys daughter Eve ( E ) the Youngest kid the Daughter was like 5 Years old and Ruby did at one point have her daughter ( E ) on PediaSure a kids protein drink to help
      her gain weight Because
      Rubys youngest little Girl WAS
      The SAME SIZE for 1 whole year ! How did that not Register with kids Dr
      not growing & not gaining weight in a otherwise Healthy child ? Children who Are Abused and Neglected like these kids were - they don’t grow or gain weight that may indicate Neglect if
      a child doesn’t feel safe enough Their body will stop producing the growth hormone needed for Developing and growing
      , It was that bad for the kids.
      But Ruby wasn’t Allowing E to have a School Luch either did that teacher Starve Her Kid unknowingly. ?
      Because her mom said she didn’t make her own lunch? So she couldn’t be allowed to have a
      school lunch I Don’t know nothings been mentioned about that yet ?
      but I’m sure ALL Those who know that family Teachers Drs , Will all
      feel horrible about hearing about the horrible the conditions really were for them. 😢
      As this video shows they arrested Jodi
      And they found E in the Closet and
      It took 2 officers
      4 hours
      to try and get ( E ) to Feel save enough to Leave the closet She hardly Spoke a Word to them they were so kind to her Playing music Gently saying THAT They won’t hurt her and they won’t let anyone hurt her again 😢 they found eve
      in the closet With her hair All chopped off the girl in the pink shirt sitting in the closet. 😢 poor Eve
      Do you want us to carry you ? It’s ok
      They said
      she was so traumatized she sat on the floor and she hardly spoke at all to the officers who played music for her and who got her Fast Food who were finally there to help rescue her. And her family

    • @JoyofRVing
      @JoyofRVing 6 місяців тому +3

      That was my first thought before I even heard about the details of this case. Just the body language of Jodi and the fact that they’re staying at the same house

  • @wendyg.
    @wendyg. 6 місяців тому +63

    The safe room that Jodi claimed she hasn't been inside of in years. Liar.

    • @MrUpchukov
      @MrUpchukov 6 місяців тому +1

      The detective was able to guess the combination? How is this even remotely believable. Next-level reality show bs?

    • @deanpd3402
      @deanpd3402 6 місяців тому

      ​@@MrUpchukovyeah I have to agree with you on that point.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      the officer figured out the code to get into the safe room, how did he do that ? LOL

  • @realcanadiangirl64
    @realcanadiangirl64 6 місяців тому +124

    Kevin Franke is no better than his wife!

    • @ccrider3435
      @ccrider3435 6 місяців тому +5

      CHARGE: Accessory to Attempted Murder!

    • @abby4-m4p
      @abby4-m4p 6 місяців тому +4

      RIGHT! Where was he ??????????

    • @deborahpoole9710
      @deborahpoole9710 6 місяців тому

      He might not have abused them but he abandoned and neglected them. Is that any less damaging?

  • @cheyennetoo
    @cheyennetoo 6 місяців тому +44

    This is beyond horror. How can anyone treat a child like these women did with such great ease? It's like they couldn't hurt those children enough 😢

  • @coll4455
    @coll4455 6 місяців тому +5

    Thank you so much for being there and handling both R and E with love and compassion

  • @raqueacevedo1509
    @raqueacevedo1509 6 місяців тому +45

    And Ruby's mormon lawyer describe this monster as "delightful" ....🙄

    • @dorothyskarpaas1180
      @dorothyskarpaas1180 6 місяців тому +2

      Jeeze!!!!

    • @deanpd3402
      @deanpd3402 6 місяців тому +7

      Investigate that church and the Mormon community as a whole.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      in her journal, she admits to drugging the children - I think they videotaped their torture of the children or with their phones

  • @dorothyskarpaas1180
    @dorothyskarpaas1180 6 місяців тому +18

    They should have been charged with attempted murder!!!

  • @kellyk5726
    @kellyk5726 6 місяців тому +29

    Who was looking after the two teen girls "A" and "J" while Ruby was in St George at Jodis house from May til Aug abusing the two younger kids? I know Ruby sent the two teen girls over at Pam Botchers house to "clean" (meaning they were Pams free maids), but they weren't there every day, so who was looking after them since they hadn't seen their dad in over a yr and Ruby was busy with Jodi running a concentration camp. I hope someone looks into this too! Ruby needs held accountable for neglect, abuse and abandonment of the two teen girls as well.

    • @e.k.4508
      @e.k.4508 6 місяців тому +1

      R. thought that at least one of his teen sisters also was in Jodi's house. So maybe Ruby brought the two of them to Pam that morning, after R's escape? It took some time for her to show up again.
      Maybe Ruby also brought the pen papers to Pam?

    • @kellyk5726
      @kellyk5726 6 місяців тому +6

      @@e.k.4508 I hope "A" and "J" were both questioned so the detectives can get a better picture of their version of events. Did Ruby abuse "R" and "E" in front of their older sister's in St George? Theres is more to this story that we don't know.

    • @yarnpower
      @yarnpower 6 місяців тому +1

      My guess is that they were also in Jodi’s house but were isolated from their younger siblings. Even R said that he hadn’t seen E. in a month. That house was huge.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      @@kellyk5726 child trafficking

  • @BunnyLang
    @BunnyLang 6 місяців тому +4

    I can't imagine how R was able to get out of a room that was locked by a door safe. I'm so grateful he did. R you are so brave and strong. Bless you for all of you life. Amen.

  • @lynnstebelton9942
    @lynnstebelton9942 6 місяців тому +32

    Manipulation, not real change.

  • @britneyserrano8908
    @britneyserrano8908 6 місяців тому +4

    R YOU ARE INCREDIBLE! Anyone else in your situation would have been terrified of the unknown but you are a Hero!

  • @critterscute3642
    @critterscute3642 6 місяців тому +33

    Brian, thanks for your stellar coverage of this horrific case.

    • @AmysAttitude
      @AmysAttitude 6 місяців тому

      What kind of comment is this? Do you not know that people like "Brian" are the worst type of people to exist? Everything they say is a lie and an agenda being pushed. I mean, just in the few seconds I listened to before pausing, he's completely talking down to people who think for themselves, referring to them as "conspiracy theorists" and "refusing to give them oxygen." Wtf? Yes, people are talking and it's because people like BRIAN here are covering for absolutely evil acts happening in front of our eyes daily. But you just want to brown nose a complete stranger for... What reason? Yikes, no wonder people lose hope in humanity.

  • @marionchase-kleeves8311
    @marionchase-kleeves8311 6 місяців тому +3

    Both of these children's minds were affected by the dehydration and malnourishment.
    There will be anger, rage, hate, guilt, remorse and more. I hope they can recover. It has taken me over 50 years to recover from emotional, mental, physical, sexual and other forms of depravation. We had to suck it up. Now there are mountains of research and experience.
    I can finally forgive after seeing the suffering they went through.
    I hope they can heal sooner than I have.
    They deserve to be loved and to be able to believe they are loveable

  • @leapingkitties
    @leapingkitties 6 місяців тому +20

    Those two kids were in a no win situation. If the kid "fessed up" the "ahem" adults said they were lying. There was no love in that house. And jody was practiced. She had Jessie first. Evil, evil, evil.

  • @raqueacevedo1509
    @raqueacevedo1509 6 місяців тому +12

    God Blessed first responders and LE!!! RESPECT

    • @GSD1963
      @GSD1963 6 місяців тому +2

      Yeah because the prosecutor fell for everything ruby said in court. If it’s up to the prosecutor ruby will be out the first time she comes up for parole. And we all know Kevin is gonna be there waiting on her. With Jodi’s settlement money.

  • @lisadolan689
    @lisadolan689 6 місяців тому +9

    That is a god forsaken place to live 😐 it’s so bleak and dry, and empty.
    I live on the equator and that environment alone, is in my nightmares.
    Those poor children 😭😭😭

  • @joannvandenberg4792
    @joannvandenberg4792 6 місяців тому +12

    Ruby was mistreating her kids before Jodi was involved. As a matter of fact, Kevin did nothing to try to stop Ruby when they were on their podcast. Ruby and Jody are both evil.

  • @MxPx77
    @MxPx77 6 місяців тому +15

    If Ruby Franke gets out early it means the Utah parole board is a complete JOKE.

    • @AmysAttitude
      @AmysAttitude 6 місяців тому +1

      Mormons helping Mormons. Evil helping evil. The entire "justice system" is a joke. It's all about money and power, it was never about justice.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      well, the cult church owns the state of Utah, so don't expect justice - this goes way deeper than they want us to know, there is child trafficking going on

  • @thatkajunguy8029
    @thatkajunguy8029 6 місяців тому +8

    Franke's change in demeanor is compliments of her attorney, absolutely no doubt he told her she needs to act accordingly to get her sweetheart deal.....

  • @purgal5250
    @purgal5250 6 місяців тому +3

    I 1000% believe that if it hadn’t been for R, both R and E would have ended up like JJ and Tylee. Also thank the stars for those sweet neighbors that listened and helped

  • @patriciamorgan6732
    @patriciamorgan6732 6 місяців тому +3

    It amazed me that her family did not ask her why she abuse her children to the near point of death. If it was my sister I would tell her never to call me again. Her family are enabling her. Blaming Jodi for everything when she is the mother. Kevin is also to blame leaving his children with these 2 mad women is unforgivable.

  • @lisadolan689
    @lisadolan689 6 місяців тому +10

    Those poor children 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

  • @silverdoe9477
    @silverdoe9477 6 місяців тому +8

    The level of dissociation R displayed when he was abused with a cactus after staying in the sun until he had bad burns, is all you need to know about Jodi & Ruby. That poor young man. I’m so happy they got out.

  • @arnoldmurphy8912
    @arnoldmurphy8912 6 місяців тому +41

    This case mirrors Chad and Lori Daybale, the only thing missing thank goodness the children lived.

    • @julietchristensen3957
      @julietchristensen3957 6 місяців тому +2

      If only tylee also could have escaped and called police.

    • @gsmith6026
      @gsmith6026 6 місяців тому +1

      @@julietchristensen3957Also, if only the police in Arizona had listened to Charles when he asked for help.

  • @gabrielletanner5339
    @gabrielletanner5339 6 місяців тому +1

    Those poor children...absolutely heartbreaking..

  • @jakebe4915
    @jakebe4915 6 місяців тому +2

    This was an excellent podcast. Bravo to the LEOs. God bless the children...

  • @jeljone3267
    @jeljone3267 6 місяців тому +10

    What’s even more disturbing is the amount of followers Jodi and Ruby had. 2M subscribers! Can you imagine how many more kids are being abused? Because those followers actually listen to their advice. WTF.

    • @gsmith6026
      @gsmith6026 6 місяців тому +2

      Especially young, new parents, teen moms who don’t have their moms around to help them.
      I watched just a couple of their episodes of 8 Passengers and was very disturbed at Ruby and Kevin’s “parenting”. Making their ill child sleep on the bathroom floor really pissed me off. When I was sick, my mom was right there beside me, either in my bed or in my parents bed, I had a bucket to puke in or I was on the family room couch. Anytime I would wake up, my mom was sitting right there. I was the same way with my children. Never ever could I make them sleep on the bathroom floor alone, while I toddled off to bed to sleep.

  • @biancaravizza1328
    @biancaravizza1328 6 місяців тому +9

    They should also be charged with kidnapping and attempted murder since the kids were detained, tied up and almost killed. Ruby and Jodi need to get life prison. Hope all of the evidence bring to a new and most fair sentence because 4 years is nothing for what they did.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      and 30 years isn't enough

  • @lizhoward9754
    @lizhoward9754 6 місяців тому +4

    To hear that police officer talk about how polite and brave the boy was is enough to make anyone cry. No doubt about it, Ruby’s son is extremely strong and brave.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому +1

      despite her sadistic treatment of him

  • @lisadolan689
    @lisadolan689 6 місяців тому +4

    Following from far North Queensland in Australia.
    I hope and pray that these two women are punished to the fullest extent of the law

  • @kathleenrecord1215
    @kathleenrecord1215 6 місяців тому +26

    Jodi is a psychopath! She abused her niece with these same behaviors and torture. She got off because the Mormon church which has been involved in the sex trafficking and abuse of children. My children were abused by a psychopath woman. Jodi needs life in prison and to be charged with all the abuse done to her niece.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      the cult church should be investigated by the FBI for child trafficking

  • @Cor6196
    @Cor6196 6 місяців тому +17

    I wish that the state had decided NOT to offer a plea deal and instead insisted on going to trial - with the public reaction so intense, the verdict would never have been in doubt, so maybe prosecutors decided that Hildebrandt and Franke could never get a fair trial in Utah.
    Or maybe both Church and State felt that a public trial (imagine it being broadcast live on TV and UA-cam!) would uncover so many coverups and sins and failures that the citizens of Utah, including ordinary Mormons, would hold the political and ecclesiastical authorities to account for enabling, even encouraging, the House of Horrors.
    But wait till people start writing books about it! Wait till Hollywood gets ahold of it! The truth may eventually find a way out. 👍👏🏼✌️

    • @tiasara5967
      @tiasara5967 6 місяців тому

      Exactly. Get the fbi on this since everyone in that community is connected to the church whether they’re mormon or not.

  • @bethgramkow5225
    @bethgramkow5225 6 місяців тому +2

    What problems did the neighbors know about?

  • @GSD1963
    @GSD1963 6 місяців тому +10

    They act like they want Jodi more than ruby. Almost giving her a pass. I’m sickened by all this. Utah let her get away with this for too long and sounds like they’re gonna do it again.

  • @michelledunne8990
    @michelledunne8990 6 місяців тому +3

    God bless the ALL THE COPS AND EMTs

  • @stansbruv3169
    @stansbruv3169 6 місяців тому +1

    Excellent work. Thank you for this hard to believe information.

  • @leahwilkinson3165
    @leahwilkinson3165 6 місяців тому +8

    Please follow-up to assure that law enforcement check on other children whose families were connected with ConneXions.

  • @cucarodriguez-loera2066
    @cucarodriguez-loera2066 6 місяців тому +12

    Why were they not charged with attempted murder, conspiracy to commit murder 😢

    • @AmysAttitude
      @AmysAttitude 6 місяців тому +2

      Good question.

    • @HelloUSA87
      @HelloUSA87 6 місяців тому +1

      Because they were given a pled deal so murder was taken off. We can only hope that the parole board leaves them both in prison for a long time. I’m sure Ruby is taking responsibility to look remorseful to serve less time. Jody still isn’t taking any responsibility. She’ll definitely spend years upon years in Prison.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      @@HelloUSA87 so the better liar serves less time

  • @tiasara5967
    @tiasara5967 6 місяців тому +10

    Because of the local law enforcement and state officials being a part of the LDS church the FBI should be handling this since no one in the community is sovereign enough to handle this.

    • @daniellestoker
      @daniellestoker 6 місяців тому +2

      Where is your proof of that?

    • @gsmith6026
      @gsmith6026 6 місяців тому

      Are you serious? Do you know how serious of an offense it is for members of the LDS Church to abuse their children or spouses? They can get excommunicated for abusing their children or spouse. The LDS Church is very stern to abusive parents and any LE of State officials will be disgusted at these crimes against these children, no matter their religion, they will probably be harsher towards someone who should know better.
      Tell me, what religion is Leticia Staunch? The West’s in California that killed their 2 adopted toddlers and lied about it to the police, what religion are they? What religion is Shanda Vander Ark? How about Lindsay Clancy? Or Casey Anthony? Chris Watts, what was his religion? Diane Downs? Any time a member of the LDS church commits a crime, the fact they are LDS is mentioned in every newscast and article and crazy accusations coming crawling out of the woodwork, all of which are ridiculous and false. But yet hundreds of other parents kill their children and there is never any mention of their religion. There are horrible people in all religions and walks of life. Do you think ALL Muslims are evil just because of a handful of extremists? I don’t, I have met many wonderful Muslims. How about Blacks? Just because a handful of Blacks commit crimes, are ALL Blacks bad? If a POC commits a crime and has a judge that is the same skin tone do you say he will get an easy sentence because the judge is the sane race? I would sure hope you wouldn’t. It’s time to stop painting everyone with the same brush and only hold those that commit the crimes accountable.
      Chances are very high that Ruby and Jodi will be excommunicated, just like Chad and Lori Daybell have been,

    • @stugrant01
      @stugrant01 6 місяців тому

      @@daniellestoker Mormons are like the Meerkats on Meerkat Manor. They grovel to their human Church hierarchy in a quest for privilege and rank in it, and therefore will do whatever they sense will gain them acceptance and status among the "good-'ol-boys".
      That is why the Mormon university kicked out Adam Steed, because they sensed that Jody didn't like him.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      the FBI should be investigating the cult church's involvement with child trafficking

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      @@daniellestoker noun: child trafficking
      the illegal movement of children, typically for the purposes of forced labor or sexual exploitation.
      "child trafficking has become a worldwide concern in the past few years"

  • @mele9131
    @mele9131 6 місяців тому +3

    If you see the rescued children especially the daughter who was scared to come out the closet and was acting so subdued you know how severe the abuse was.

  • @GuitarWithBrett
    @GuitarWithBrett 6 місяців тому +2

    What a psycho , glad they both got caught and kids are safe now

  • @terinunes604
    @terinunes604 6 місяців тому +2

    I hope these kids will be forever safe and have a wonderful life going forward

  • @deborahpoole9710
    @deborahpoole9710 6 місяців тому +2

    Inspite of what he had been thru he had the wherewithal to escape and save himself and his sister. I believe he realized he had to escape now. Of never. So brave. Wow.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      he knew his death and his sister's death was imminent as soon as they moved to Arizona

  • @eleanoraquitaine2966
    @eleanoraquitaine2966 6 місяців тому +5

    Jodi "tapped her on the cheek"????? Tapped? No such thing. That's a cowardly way to admit straight up abuse. The child was SLAPPED, not tapped.

  • @vaNessaaBlack
    @vaNessaaBlack 6 місяців тому +1

    I feel for those two children, the horrors they will face for the rest of their lives knowing that no one kept them safe.

  • @Philisnotretired
    @Philisnotretired 6 місяців тому +4

    Please investigate Jodi’s income. How does she afford such an extravagant house?

  • @basiahellwich3505
    @basiahellwich3505 6 місяців тому +3

    How is Ruby an authority on 'evil' especially in her own children, does she not know what 'real' evil is, real evil is her own actions, she is the evil one!! Totally unbelievable!!

  • @bapstbybackup643
    @bapstbybackup643 6 місяців тому +2

    You know what’s really sad
    There aren’t news specials for every abused child. It takes extraordinary circumstances to make police or children’s services or anyone take notice. This insanity happens every day and children stay quiet and when they do oftentimes they are blamed for not speaking up
    This is awful, but it’s all awful, this isn’t unusual…especially where it happened

  • @GradKat
    @GradKat 6 місяців тому +7

    Is there any cure for religious extremism? Ruby and Jodi will just retreat into bible study whilst in prison. I doubt either of them will ever accept the reality of what they have done.

  • @oliver0656
    @oliver0656 6 місяців тому +4

    These are sociopathic women. I was SHOCKED to hear the prosecutor say he thought Ruby's statement was sincere. Her abuse of husband and kids goes back before Jodi.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      it was totally shocking

  • @bcoull290
    @bcoull290 6 місяців тому +3

    Ruby said the injury on his ankles was done by him and that everyone was making it a bigger deal than it was.

  • @MariaKoroleva.Realtor
    @MariaKoroleva.Realtor 6 місяців тому +4

    You know when you are hurting someone, let alone your own children, and you continue systematically abusing and brainwashing them. You cannot let those people back in the society! Those kids were days away from losing their sanity and their lives! There’s no MISUNDERSTANDING!

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      they both are a danger to society

  • @jeanniecampbell1374
    @jeanniecampbell1374 6 місяців тому +6

    If the Boy had not escaped and found help I feel this whole situation could have maybe become even more sinister .

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      Ruby made it very clear in her journal writings that they intended to leave them in the Arizona desert

  • @magical8013
    @magical8013 6 місяців тому +4

    I think the husband is just as responsible as these two. I grew up around the Mormon community. When you're a part of that church you are constantly going to social events at neighbors are coming over to your house. So why didn't anybody put a stop to this sooner?

  • @afrodeity1576
    @afrodeity1576 6 місяців тому +4

    This is excellent! Thank you for interviewing these amazing EMT and officers to remind us there are still many wonderful people in this world, there is still humanity ❤️ . It is also a pure fact, R IS AN ABSOLUTE HERO. ❤️⭐💐✨ Would love to see an interview with the neighbors who thank goodness were there to help him/the kids (of course I understand they may not wish to be interviewed).

  • @Redhead_75
    @Redhead_75 6 місяців тому +1

    Too bad they won't treat them in prison like they treated these poor children.
    😢😢

  • @yarnpower
    @yarnpower 6 місяців тому

    Imagine the shock to the cop who first found that journal and read it.
    Same shock to the neighbors who helped, the paramedics and the cops as well as the hospital staff who helped these children.

  • @PrincessKryssiQT
    @PrincessKryssiQT 6 місяців тому +6

    I know this isn't an easy situation to report. May you and your colleagues be blessed with much strength and comfort to get through these rough reports❤

  • @eli08miqui09
    @eli08miqui09 6 місяців тому +2

    Wow the delusion she has. It’s amazing how she blames her son and not herself. I can’t believe there are people like that in the world.

  • @mariannegary6710
    @mariannegary6710 6 місяців тому +8

    ‘Poor Jodi’ … grosssssssss

  • @Mpeterson1234
    @Mpeterson1234 6 місяців тому +4

    I think Ruby realized if she didn’t turn against Jody she would be in jail forever. Her conversation with her sister seems to elude to a strategy. Ruby was emotionally abusive before she met Jodi. I think Ruby is as manipulative as Jodi and dangerous. She should be in jail for 60 years and never have contact with her children again. Kevin is a little different but then he condoned Ruby’s parenting before Jodi and should not have contact with his children.

  • @likam3509
    @likam3509 6 місяців тому +2

    What did the neighbour mean when he said about Jodi: “we know there have been problems in this neighbour’s house” ?

  • @karenjohnson5271
    @karenjohnson5271 6 місяців тому +1

    "R" is the hero of this digusting story. May the children get the help they need!

    • @jeffreymartin6369
      @jeffreymartin6369 6 місяців тому +1

      He was the only one who asked about the other kids. Mom, dad Jodi.. none of them asked about the kids. None of them.

  • @SarahHolt-z4y
    @SarahHolt-z4y 6 місяців тому +6

    I wish and hope one of these detectives/sergeants can ADOPT THESE BABIES. Bc they DONT BELONG IN THAT FAMILY W/ANY OF THEM & PLEASE KEEP TABS ON THESE KIDS AND MAKE SURE THEY ARE OK IN DCF CARE/ PLEASE PLEASE CHECK ON THESE BABIES 💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤💙🖤

  • @richardjones1699
    @richardjones1699 6 місяців тому +3

    Why did you cut the audio of her talking right at that point? Is there a certain organization that you are protecting? Why dont you tell the whole story?

    • @AmysAttitude
      @AmysAttitude 6 місяців тому

      Their job isn't to tell the whole story, nor is it to tell the truth. #projectbluebird All the theories are true and they can't hide it anymore. We will only see more and more coming out. Don't pay attention to what they say, but pay attention to what they don't say.

  • @brendapouncey6475
    @brendapouncey6475 6 місяців тому +5

    Has anyone brought up the “Pen Papers” that Kevin mentioned in the audio interview? These were not Ruby’s journal. These pertain to Jodi and all her “visions”. You know the ones where she believed they were so important that they would one day be like scripture. What a delusional person. I’m just curious if those were found and if they were used as evidence,

  • @toniawilmoth7535
    @toniawilmoth7535 6 місяців тому +1

    I don’t understand why these two women are not being charged with attempted murder instead of child abuse. They tried killing these poor children

  • @jazze63
    @jazze63 6 місяців тому +13

    Many sadistic monsters hides behind faith and the bible..

  • @reneejohnson4361
    @reneejohnson4361 6 місяців тому +6

    We see you too Ruby's Friend Pam H.!!!

  • @Cujo71
    @Cujo71 6 місяців тому +1

    He is an incredibly brave boy. I can say that his pain tolerance tells you the amount of abuse he went through. I was physically and emotionally abused by my mother, not to this extent, I was only hit with fists, pancake turners, and paddles but you honestly do become numb to the pain. You just want to take it and wait for it to hopefully be over soon. Sadly it seems like his was never ending. I hope her husband never regains custody of the youngest 2. And, if it were me, I would never want to see her again.

  • @lisadolan689
    @lisadolan689 6 місяців тому +5

    What is in the drinking water in Utah 😐

  • @peacefulpath222
    @peacefulpath222 6 місяців тому +3

    If this was happening to the 2 littlest kids R & E, where were the 4 older ones?

    • @biancaravizza1328
      @biancaravizza1328 6 місяців тому +1

      The two oldest are over the age of 18 and pretty much on their own, J and A were found staying over Jodi and Ruby's friends, (who are also involved with the same cult) but it is not clear where the two girls lived. There is some evidence of J also being ad Jodi's home at some point, but we don't know much about it.
      Also, some Springville neighbor had called police and CPS because they saw kids left alone in the house for a long period of time.

    • @peacefulpath222
      @peacefulpath222 6 місяців тому

      @@biancaravizza1328 thank you 🙏🏻 I wondered if the elder ones knew the extent at which these kids were being abused, as being an older sibling myself I’d have fought tooth & nail to get those kids away from those 2 monsters 😓

    • @biancaravizza1328
      @biancaravizza1328 6 місяців тому +1

      @@peacefulpath222 I think Shari knew something was going on as she also called CPS and police more than one time and tryed to get her sibilings out, but I doubt she knew it was this bad.

    • @bonnie_gail
      @bonnie_gail 6 місяців тому

      @@biancaravizza1328 yeah, without the sanction of the cult church in Utah, no one investigated as Ruby was their cash cow

  • @palomahealing5073
    @palomahealing5073 6 місяців тому +1

    It's all about convenience? That's why she has a change of heart!! I wish there would have been a Trial🤔

  • @stellazonoozi2829
    @stellazonoozi2829 6 місяців тому +1

    Shame on USA's legal system.. If they come out after 4 years... The mother will get at least 20-25years without appeal if this happens in Scandinavia(Norway, Sweden, Danmark) And she will not be allowed to contact the children until they turn 18.And if the children do not want to have contact with her after they are 18 and she tries to contact them, she will be arrested again.

  • @Heidi-Beth
    @Heidi-Beth 6 місяців тому +1

    They both make me sick and it's unreal how they got by with so little time when these children could of been killed in time. This definitely doesn't set a very good example for all the lunatics out there doing or thinking of harming children!! Sickening

  • @suzannec8400
    @suzannec8400 6 місяців тому +1

    Have originally watched 8 passengers in 2015 and watched this sweet little kids my heart is literally broken and I was fooled. The A was well hidden!

  • @roya-19
    @roya-19 6 місяців тому +4

    I hope the fathef doesn’t get their custody !!! He is not better than his wife

  • @likam3509
    @likam3509 6 місяців тому +2

    Anything known why older siblings who had moved out did not check on their younger siblings?

  • @krystlesimard131
    @krystlesimard131 6 місяців тому +1

    I wonder if Jodie was charging Ruby a fee or rent for her stay there. Also, her asking to write a journal could be a way to protect herself because she knows that what their doing is wrong. Jodie isn't dumb, it's Ruby's writing in the journal, just in case the law gets involved.

  • @GrissCamera
    @GrissCamera 6 місяців тому +1

    What about the Neighbor who made the call to 911? He mentioned that they (911) knew about Jodi because they had called before. What had the neighbors called about before this happened? He even said she was a bad woman. They all knew her.