The Re:Zero Episode Everyone Drops The Show At
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- I've known tons of people that end up dropping Re:Zero due to how Subaru's Character is portrayed in episode 13 of the show. They want him to get his stuff together and stop acting so childish. Honestly if I were in a world like this, most of us wouldn't be doing so good with all the stuff that he goes through. But it's always most interesting how a character like Subaru gets dragged to such a low place and is able to grow from it, rather than being scarred by it. His attitude towards things are understandable because he's not me. I'm watching the show as he grows and it's always nice to see the way he overcomes both the struggles he's faced with tackling his enemies, as well as his own mental shortcomings that stem from the way he sees himself and the world around him.
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There are heroes that are born and heroes that are made. Like it or not. This is how a hero is made - one bad decision at a time.
No hero is born, though... unless its a story book. But Re;Zero has always tried to be as close to realistic as possible instead of like a story book.
@ishaalimtiaz6715 Except in ReZero the Astrea family are literally born as Heroes
@@Oboreru493 I think he means in real life...
@xervislane770 well your comment was referring to fiction to begin with so seems pretty dumb to start bringing up irl xD
@@Oboreru493 yeah but thats the view the public has forced on them. If you actually look into the family, youll notice how dysfunctional the astrea family is. They might have superpowers but they arent mentally born heroes. In fact, from what we know of reinhardt, he has very low self esteem just like Subaru. Reinhard had to grow up and learn just like everyone else. The tragic thing about the astrea family is that people's perceptions force even little kids in it to take up the mantle of hero whether or not they like it, and you not realising that is you making the same mistake as the public in re zero even though you have the benefit of an outsiders perspective. Astreas aren't born as heroes, they are forced into the hero role and their children made into heroes before they even have the chance to have a proper childhood.
Anime fans: Anime mcs need to be more complex, characters like Midoriya and Tanjirou are too perfect and boring!
Also anime fans: Why does Subaru have flaws???
First time seeing this scene in the anime I was left confused.
Second time reading it in the book I was left depressed.
It was so cringe to me i consider stopping the episode and save it for later, but i decided to go through since it was a good show.
Then i remember my mom told me i did the exact same thing before but didn't take conséquences because i was a child.
I did something similar to subaru wich lead to his fight with julius 2 times mind you because i thought i was strong, i get my ass beat, to this day 10 years later i never forgot the shame that came with it, but it make me more selfless and less prideful. So yeah subaru scène was actually relatable
Same
First time in anime, thought it was cringe
Second time, I had character development since I ended up having my own teenage angst, and then I later read book, loved it
Third time, saw it in anime again and realised that it was amazing in anime too
@@titanus261 Yeah i did something similar to Subaru as well, and it had just as big consequences too...
@ishaal imtiaz yeah even though I was confused I still like the episode. Cus no anime ever do this kind of thing. Everything just crumble down so quick. And yeah reading the ln really does make me understand thing better and make it more sad. The only thing I don't understand is Emilia behaviour when arguing with subaru, which I later understand in vol 9.
@@Ltmqt because for a spirit art user when you make a promise you must keep it at any cost, even if you were to be worn out or risk your life and subaru just break that promise on a whim, for a spirit art user its litteraly as if pissing on their trust and shrug it off.
I never knew people dropped the show cause they thought Subaru was annoying.
Personally loved it through and through 😎🙏
Personally I'm a ReZero fan and I still consider Subaru annoying af even sometimes in the novel
@@CapCody his self depreciation comes back too much as well as his outburst while showing he knows better. Still my fav caracter tho
I dropped it because he whined wayyyy too much, but everyone keeps telling me it gets better
@@acenigerian3356 he dont even whine as much as half of was deku or takemichi do
@@titanus261 don’t know who takemichi is but deku doesn’t whine or wallow in self pity, he’s just a cry baby, meanwhile Subaru wallows in self pity and seek justification for his suffering way too much, to the point it’s extremely annoying, I watched season 1 completely but neither me nor any of my siblings felt like watching season 2.
A lot of people want a character they can map themselves onto, especially the crowd who watch anime (though this isn't something unique to them). It's why trashy power fantasy shows do well 9/10 times even if they're poorly written. That part where Subaru is yelling at Emilia and wanting her to thank him is almost the polar opposite of a power fantasy, so people who are looking for a self-insert thing are not going to have a good time.
Then there's those of us who simply want a good story. And we get it.
For sure, but you gotta admit that Isekai usually attracts people looking for power fantasy. @@Hunter-pt4zy
The problem with your point is that people don't hate baru because they can't map themselves onto him, they hate him because they are practically seeing a reflection of themselves, or literally the reflection of a shut in (which is relatable to a wide arrangement of people). I think season 2 episode 4 made humanized subaru to the point where you couldn't even differentiate him from a human.
I'll be completely honest, Subaru being a flawed protagonist while trying to grow from it is exactly why I was interested in and kept watching Re:Zero.
I personally find it better than 'OP chick magnet with less personality than a brick' that many protagonists in the Isekai genre fall under.
Exactly. Subaru is intended to be a parody of the stereotypical isekai protagonist. Which is why some people don't like him but love said isekai protags. They'd rather be entertained watching some overpowered attractive morally upright perfect Gary Stue to daydream themselves as rather than a character with any actual depth who they don't WANT to relate to because he's like looking in a mirror (except Subaru is honestly a way better and stronger person than most of us, especially for being a 17 year old).
It's amazing how a writer can make a character genuinely annoying to watch, not out of poor unfounded writing, but out of sheer secondhand embarrassment, patheticness and entitlement.... Which is exactly what's intended.
In reality, its easy to make such a moment fall flat or feel fake. The fact it actually polarises people so intensely is testament to that imo.
TRUE. I don't mind the Subaru criticisms because they show me just how good the character is.
I can only imagine it disappointed some viewers who self insert themselves because the episode that showed Subaru not getting the recognition he was expecting from Remilia was a large reality check for them.
Yep. You nailed the issue.😂
wow subaru even knows a certain vampire from gensokyo
@@waffy_kun haha,I never noticed my mistake for that but I'll keep it there since it's been over 12 days until anyone noticed
Well I noticed, but I understood what you meant 👀
The second I saw the comment I was like "hehe-like Remilia Scarlet" and then I read the replys
Honestly, episode 13 is one of my *favorite* episodes of the series. It's so goddamn cringe in the best possible way, and we really get to see what makes Subaru tick for the first time in the series. It's so damn *good!*
Never found it cringe,but still top 3 from season 1
Subaru: I'm a teenager going through depression, so I'll act out.
People: Ughh, he's so cringe, what a child, I hate him so much.
I think he hits too close to home to those people, the episode was cringe but in the good story kinda way, not the domestic girlfriend type of way.
"Omg pls stop crying 😭"
@@KoopaTroopaa69True dat. It was really difficult to watch specific episodes for me cuz it hit my own insecurities
The reason I dropped the show a few years ago😭
Dw I'm getting back into it
He’s the embodiment of what most hardcore anime fans would be like if they got isekai(d) and they probably hate it when the MC is a mirror of themselves rather than a self-insert.
All i can say is Tappei should get lifetime achievement award for writing this masterpiece.
i know i'm 8 months late but imma say this:
he's a stupid teenager that **acts like a stupid teenager**. If any adult met their 17 year old self they'd think they were cringe inducing too.
He's not as cold or logical as many of us think we would be, because he's an extremely traumatized person trying to act like they did before being traumatized because they have no idea how else to act. In his own experience, every time he's genuinely broken down or panicked or freaked out things went worse for everybody so he doesn't even have any way of trying to cope with what he's experienced. There is nobody to tell, there is nobody to ask for help, there is nothing he can do but continue to exist while remembering that time he died from being disemboweled (by the way, death by disembowelment can take HOURS and i may be misremembering but i think he had someone digging around in his guts while it happened), or remember being tortured by a person he thought was a friend, or remember getting multiple people he cared about killed because he wasn't good enough to help them and the only useful thing he could do for anyone was die so they could maybe live next time. I mean the nightmares this guy has to be having alone must be horrific, especially after the rabbit incident(s).
Ok,Listen now Suberu is a quite realistic character. U can’t just expect someone to be mentally stable after dieing over and over 😅
I personally never saw a problem with Subaru. He was a douche, sure, but a realistic douche, and a well written douche. I found his character interesting and I honestly liked him as an MC. Shame that people are so self conscious they cant stand to watch a realistic person with flaws
Re-Zero a buffonish high school dropout who was sent to another world by a witch. What a disaster of an anime if they end it in season 2 the internet would be saved but White Fox keeps jizzing out seasons after seasons until they screw it up by that evil fandom who sends death threat to the author just like Genshin Impact and Pokemon.
@@anonymoustroll2432 denial
@@anonymoustroll2432 funny how I literally never hear anyone send death threats to Tappei and Otsuka in the community, unless they were just cringe rem anime-only fans (not all)
@@anonymoustroll2432 the fuck are you talking about LMFAOOOOOOOO
@@anonymoustroll2432what are you on about? You probably are high
I feel sad for people that drop it on that episode.
Fr💀💀
I call this episode, the great filter
Thats why i truly like Re:zero and give it the first spot in my anime list. It wants to be realistic no matter the cringe. The fact that it became cringe would be a sucess according to me. Characters are not perfect, they change, they react in the most realistic way and everyone seem to have their good backstories which have crafted their attitudes/ideologies.
Well, some may complain that there aint gonna be perma deaths or anything which is a plot armor for Subaru
Well, this is point is basically indirectly mentioned to Subaru by Cecilus in his own words in Arc 7.
Just note that Subaru will have events that gonna do him great harm but not a permanent / unrecoverable ones, at least for the characters he cares for the most.
I don't think that deciding to go from a shut in to a hero as a first thought after being summoned to another world is quite realistic. Also the way Subaru acts looks more like an outburst of a 7 year old child but NOT a 17 year old teenager. Plus the way he just expects everything to go exactly the way he wants even after getting destroyed several times already, isn't the most realistic behavior. Don't get me wrong, I do like this show and am about to start watching season 2 but I just do not understand how people can seriously say they relate to Subarus way of acting and call this show realistic.
@@isorstho7378 have you seen the usual isekai tropes, the overpowered, harem magnet protagonist? yes that's Subaru's impression of the alternate world. But rezero portrayed that being isekaid is not some sort of fantasy delusions like what otaku's/shut in have imagined.
@@rel876 yes that part is true however it is not realistic at all. If any one of us would get isekaid I don't think that the first thing we would do is try to act all heroish just cause we saw that in an anime. The way Subaru gets reality checked is realistic to some degree but if the show was actually realistic then Subaru would not need those reality checks to begin with.
@@isorstho7378are you implying not doing the usual thing as an average human is not realistic? then probably you're right if that's basis. But well Subaru acting the way he is considering what he'd been through, the way he does things and reacts is realistic the way he is. You can't just be that guy, instantly sort and improve your self in an unfamiliar world like what is the usual trend in anime, his journey to learning and improving through his mistakes is quite realistic to me.
@@isorstho7378 Subaru wants to do everything because he wants to be liked.
But lets say he let them be. The world would probably have ended due to Emilia dying and he would be back at the apple salesman guy again lol
"ugh this guy is traumatized and going through the worst things possible and I bet he'll never develop past this point even though this guy has some of the most complex character development of all time"
I always say the same thing
The older you get, the more you appreciate Re:Zero.
Its only when you learn to face the ugliness of oneself that you can understand Subaru's character and his progression. People who couldn't understand or fathom the innate flaws of Subaru either had low emotional capacity or lacked maturity.
Both issues are fixed with experience and age, so thats why this story of self-improvement only gets better with each read.
Arc 3 especially the start of it is what really sells the show I can understand people not likeing unlikeable protagonists but subaru growing and realizing he isnt some protagonist in a video game or manga but the world he lives in is just as real as his previous one and the people in it are real people as well its a great first step in his growth
It feels so good seeing him slowly becoming the hero that he always wanted to be, only to realized that being a hero also equals a suffocating amount of expectation, especially when he is in reality weak as hell
It's actually pretty interesting, Subaru's gone through all this trauma and forced to go through it alone, so when he finally snaps, people find the fact that he's not the act he was putting up the whole time "annoying" and leave. Probably for the best, those people were probably looking for a power fantasy and there's plenty of those. XD
I didn't hate or like Subaru until 1x18 since then he started climbing higher and higher in my top 10 protagonist
if you catch up to recent web novel chapters he'd break your top 5.
If you catch up to the light novel he might be one of your top 3
I think that this is the kind of moment that solidifies Subaru as one of my favorite characters, if not the #1. That and the fact that his character development, unlike many other characters, is not a switch you just switch on and tadaaa, he’s improved himself. Even after he “evolves” as a character he still fails and suffers from the same problems he had before the “development” because, like irl people, you just don’t flip a switch and change your behaviors and thoughts from one day to the next.
I can understand subaru greatly, that's why i know how disappointing and humiliating that act was. It's like seeing my past self and it's hurt.
The episode where the author brought Subaru down a peg to show his ugly human side of himself. Its a shame that a majority don't see it as such, but as just a selfish crybaby.
Subaru is my most favorite fictional character and all those flaws just make him a fascinating interesting character.
everytime i rewatch the anime im just amazed at how far subaru has come as a character. i also love how useless he is in almost everything he does yet he still manages to find away around everything, hes the only character ive seen in anime that displays his trauma and pain in its fullest. hes just an amazing character and hes not some over powered mc. mans just a dude tryna get with a chick XD
People that see themselves as some protagonist in a shonen anime really do get uncomfortable in this episode. This episode shows them the ugly side of a shonen protagonist that never gets reprimanded for his rash actions. And this revelation is too much for them to bear so they just drop the show.🤔
When I watched Re:Zero for the first time 4 years ago, I didn't think Subaru was cringe and it wasn't hard for me to watch this. But I wasn't empathetic at that time in general, so I used to think that Subaru was weak and useles. But after some time (about half a year?) and after watching some videos about Re:Zero I realized that Subaru actually is good character.
And now Re:Zero is #1 in my list (along with Made in Abyss). Subaru is the best MC. I have read 15 volumes of LN and just can't wait to watch 3rd season.
(I'm sorry for grammar, not good at speaking/writing on English)
when I first watched this anime it was tuff for me to watch through like the first few episodes, so bad that i had to pause it cuz of second hand embarrassment but i’m glad i pushed through it cuz the show good asf
something anime left out was the AL cut content that al was isekaid as well,it basically double downs on subaru's insecurity hes not actually special.
and how much self worth he put into saving emilia being the only worth he has, and how much he convinced himself its all for emilia ,but its not saving emilia ,but its about saving emilia for his self-satisfaction and worth.
This episode also gets more ad more re-contextualization from further arcs from how much promises mean to emilia to subaru's saying to yo just happen to be born into being knight because of their big dad name was projection form what we see in S2 ep 4 and this gets further re-contextualized from further arcs as julius is actually an orphan.
I could go on and on about how this confrontation was building up,how nuanced it was and most of all how unique and kind of unseen scene in anime it is(although somewhat common in live action drama shows),but Its all about feeling and emotional impact which i think it conveys at least to those who were paying attention and were understanding.
people viewing it from surface level definitely feel cringe, personally i never felt nor do i get how people found subaru annoying can 't comprehend it .
I feel like people got so used to the OP Marty Stues in isekais and kinda accepted that as a norm while Subaru is probably one of the most realistic depiction of how a 18-year-old shut-in, who spends most of their days watching anime and playing video games, being transported into a fantasy world would look like
i understand where some people come from bc i almost dropped it too but stuck through it and i'm glad I did but honestly he is a very realistic character people criticize his character for being a crybaby and shit like that but with all the shit he's seen it's understandable i also think people forget he's fucking 17 at the start of the show he's still a kid and for that reason everything he does in the show makes sense
Subaru has to be the best isekai character cus it shows what will actually happen if you land in another world 💀
When I first watched re zero I was with the majority of thinking the show was boring and that subaru was a weak cringy crybaby but it wasn’t until ep 18 that it hit me just how much more of a complex character he is and how much I saw myself in him which is why parent and child hit me like a truck and left me on my own journey of being a better person
I did not think people would hate that show, cause it is indeed my favourite anime. Oh well people have their opinions, that I dont care about :D
Bro I dropped it on this episode too, because I got depressed, but I brought myself to watch it and I don't regret coming back
That scene with Subaru and Emilia at the end of ep. 13 is peak cinema. It is basically the same theme that was in Breaking Bad Ozymandias but in BB it is climax of the show, in RZ it is spicing up plot, flashing out characters with a lot of implication for story and characters. "Everything I did, I did for the family" ---- "I do it for you Emilia" Selfishness or pride comes before the fall. The dialogue and scene execution in RZ between Emilia and Subaru at the end of ep.13 was better than scene on phone between Skyler and Walter in Ozymandias. Funny thing is that ep.13 is the lowest rated episode of RZ on IMDb and Ozymandias is the highest rated episode of all time with a perfect score.
I’d argue that the reason many people dropped Re:Zero was that this version of Subaru hit waaaay to close to home.
I feel exactly the same about that beginning part. I find it hard to not like something. there are shows out there you hear about like high guardian spice and yeah, you find those shows sucky. but whenever I watch a random show I always find a way or reason to like it, or, at the very worst, I'll drop it and say it's not for me.
Well those people are WEAK!!
It is hard watch to get past that part, but if you can, you'll see peak isekai
Subaru is amazing from the start
Yes, my past self
@@_KillerD_yes your reply to your past self
@@SilverSaw988 no ):D
@@_KillerD_ lol
I liked subaru because in the end, its a stark reminder that hes only human
Subaru change himself and change me in the same time. I don't care who say subaru is trash or weak charakter. I love him because he is subaru, not someone else.
Life is not easy, this is it. So you have just do it and be better everyday. Don't give up with your problem, Face your problems and enjoy the process of life to become better
Seriously, this crazy guy has inspired me to keep fighting at multiple times in my life
Bro I swear this scene you showed first, when I saw it in the anime it made me feel so uncomfortable watching it and the only reason I kept watching was because I was hoping he understands his mistakes and grows from it. So glad I didn't drop it.
It was a kick to the balls but I braved through it.
So many people don't truly understand subaru or why hes how he is.
That moment was actually really good it shows that he is human and brings out humanities bad side
What? this episode is the one that made me all the more interested in watching the show, why would people drop this here?
is it all because of "I don't want to be Subaru so he's a bad MC"? Really?
I mean his return to death is both a curse and a blessing.
I definitely had difficulty actually continuing to watch it. Thank go- WAIT NO THANK MYSELF for keeping up lol. Great anime ill watch season 2 soon
I dropped the show because I felt it stopped going anywhere
Subaru most of the time is a super-amazing and understanding guy, but he has a moment of weakness ( due to obvious trauma(s) ) and people throw a bitch fit.
We can't all be Reinhard.
And even Reinhard has insecurities
A lot of people hate that scene since a lot of people like inserting themselves in place of the mc, thinking "yes that's me, i'd do the same, I relate to him so much." Up to this point, while he had his ups and downs, he was still pretty flawless overall, this scene is the culmination of all his flaws and people hate that they can see themselves in subaru's actions, and proceed to vehemently deny such accusations, and instead claim the show sucks
I'll say it, many people dropped it because they don't really wanna watch a personal lame looking drama the MC pulled it up himself, And I can understand that. Unless you pay attention to character's dynamics, complexities and inner struggles and acknowledge the character as an individual entity and not the "entire show", you really cant appreciate this type of writing.
But that all sums up to your tastes, and doesn't make the show bad because on a narrative perspective Re:Zero is solid, and purposefully dives into the characters inner struggles to flesh them out.
First season it was subaru, and the second it was Emilia. And Teppei is doing a great job
Crazy how complex his character is though. Initially I was stuck on the thought of what he was doing was right because he's a good person and made good choices up until now, but then I realized how he was acting during his breakdown scene and even though it was cringy watching him make these terrible decisions I think it's great watching his character develop past that point.
Absolutely incredible video!
Earned you a new subscriber 😄
At least it wasnt goblin slayer ep 1
I remember the first time seeing this scene cringing so hard for him but also loving it because it really makes it clear he's not perfect, and he's probably gonna regret that later like most of us do when we inevitably say dumb shit. lol
Great video, but when you played the clip of Roswaal saying Al Goa, I thought it was Dio for a sec since they have the same voice actor lol
Me and a friend kept trying to get my younger brother to watch Re Zero and yea, this exact episode made him lose all interest
People: Why do these Isekais that have OP protagonists are a thing?
Anime producers: Here's what you asked
People: Why would you do that?
Personally, love the show
I really expected this to be rant about episode 18 for Rem, which in the time was where most dropped the show when season 1 was airing.
Interesting. Most of the people I talk to about the show seemed to love that episode. Maybe that's another love it or hate it make or break ep
I don´t think people realize the gravity of "that" scene.
Subarus mind can´t comprehend the fact that only HE knows that all these things happened, noone else is aware that he died AT ANY POINT, the lenghts he went to will never be known to anyone, possibly. And he will never get recognition for it.
He is probably the most powerless creature that he is aware of. I am honestly astounded that he hasn´t sought some kind of power through some "less savoury" means.
That´s just a natural reaction to this situation, because he is being reset, and that makes no logical sense.
I think that is also the reason why he felt particularly strong about Rem disappearing from everyones memory.
If you are an anime only and enjoy reading, I'd recommend reading the Re:Zero IF stories. Each of them are sinful alternate paths Subaru could've gone down at any point in the anime/novel
subaru is such a good character
The chapter from beginning to end has the intention of destroying Subaru's image, and above all, lowering him from his pedestal of illusions just for having previously succeeded, I admit that the chapter is not easy to watch, but it is perfect, that turning point sets the stage for chapter 18, those chapters where there is only pure hysteria and pain, Subaru never stopped being arrogant since he arrived in the other world, the pride that seemed like he didn't have since chapter 3 was actually still there, Subaru hadn't learned anything, Subaru still believed that he was the protagonist, but he had to learn the hard way that the world matters if he stays the same.
I really liked Subaru because he really sends home the message of learning from your mistakes, and to cherish life even if you have the power to return after death as much as you like.
reason i dropped it was because the pacing was god awful, everything just progressed really slow and at points that i felt the story should have really advanced or the characters develop it stayed stagnant so the writers wouldnt have to change the dynamics much
Subaru is the reason i drop the serie, he in fact is annoying; he not even act like a regular guy he is a complete nonsense.
This anime is the reason why anime is top notch art.
The fact that people don't understand the principle of character development, which is the reason why stories even exist since the times of Odysseus in the Odyssey around 2700 years ago, says a lot about today's society. Natsuki Subaru is my favorite character of all times because the sheer growth he has during the entire story is monumental. For anime onlies wondering, his character development even after season 2 is far from over and as a true story is told, will end at the climax of the story.
Dont exaggerate. It's a ridiculous claim
This absolutely does not say a lot about today society.
I agree with the rest of the comment
@@1chibanKasuga this does. This shows that people forgot what actually constitutes a good story
@@1chibanKasuga Bro there are people in this comment section who claim that it is bad writing to have a main character who is “entirely irredeemable and flawed.”
Subaru is flawed, but works to redeem himself. They think, because they can see parts of his journey where he made mistakes and was punished for it, he is a poorly written character.
I COMPLETELY agree with the original poster of this comment.
@@bonfist7277 do you have any proof that in the past people would have got his character? No. The fact that the odessy is old doesn't mean anything specifically, considering most people wear illiterate.
Is not enough to base yourself on 1 character of 1 story to judge all society without even knowing who are the people don't or don't want to get Subaru character (age, gender, place of birth, nationality which group is the one mostly disliking it).
The fact that Subaru his is favourite character and also your profile picture shows that you guys have a big bias, if it was another protagonist, would you have said the same? In the future do you think Subaru arc would be enough data for reaschers to judge a lot of society?
I like Subaru but this can not make my blind and think society cant recognise a story anymore.
First of all Subaru did save Emilia, after Reinhardt unleashed that attack he went by the door then Elsa got up and rushed for the kill which is Emilia, Subaru grabbed that giant club and swang it as hard is he could to deflect it which he did and it nearly killed him in the process again, Subaru has saves Emilia in Almost every volume
Plus how does Subaru expressing his true feelings and telling the truth make him cringe? Clown 🤡
Let's not forget he's a teenager who got summoned there forcefully with no knowledge of it
Re:Zero peak fr, it's not for those that want some unrealistic or overpowered mc that saves the day always or looks at the Gillian's like weak trash even tho couple chapters before he was weak like them, Re:Zero peak supremacy ❤️🛐 and to top it all of he's extremely realistic and i relate to him a whole lot
Literally gets murdered in the most painful ways imaginable for the sake of his loved ones while having to bear the emotional trauma of f***ing dying and not being able to talk about it: "smh such a selfish and annoying and cringe character, how dare he lash out like that, 0/10 show he can just redo everything anyway"
I wished I dropped this garbage by then. I was somehow able to stomach it through season 2 but no more. I know season 3 is out but I refuse to torture myself with mediocrity any longer.
i was so close to drop re zero at the start of s2
I was about to drop this anime on this episode thank God i didn't
How is it cringe he’s a horribly flawed person that makes mistakes all the time. These are the types of trials that push someone to truly change especially someone as slothful as Subaru
Yeah this was the problem my friends would have when I would recommend it to them. It's either you can empathize and relate to his struggles, or he's annoying and does nothing. Just a matter of perspective.
Thats my goat
I think Subaru's acts are pretty humane than those random isekai crap. Even myself could act cringe like him if I went to that world. Being normal guy from a normal world sent to other weird world, it's not all magic happen and suddenly become a perfect over powered guy.
People want MC's to be likable, but virtually no shut-ins are actually likable people. If you're a shut-in you need to work on yourself and grow, and Re:Zero is trying to beat that into the heads of the viewers.
I suffered through that and holy shit the show actually turns itself around
The Re:Zero Episode I Wanted the Show to Have
I mean
Who would love a perfect character
Yeah no one
Exactly. Mary Sues are hated for a good reason
I didn't like Subaru at all until season 2 when he meet his parents in the trial. It was only then I realized he was just a teenager and is human too. Maybe it was because I was younger when season 1 aired that I saw it differently but I should rewatch it. I just saw him as the MC who suffered a lot and braved through it. Season 2 showed his vulnerabilities making him feel more human and real.
I'll be honest, the moment that made me drop it was Subaru just being like "I love Emilia" after Rem confesses her love and support for him. It's not the rejection itself, but the bluntness of it and the fact this comes after a nightmarish series of events for him where Rem still had his back. It made me feel like his obsession with Emilia had consumed most other facets of his person.
So, the novel goes into this scene in more detail. As it does with everything, considering well, it’s a novel. And in the novel Subaru thought to himself that what he was about to say was cruel, but that he had to say it. Subaru’s goal has always been to help Emilia reach the throne, and Rem knows that he loves Emilia. In fact, she also wanted him to say those words. Because him saying “I love Emilia” is equivalent to him saying that he wasn’t going to run away.
He was going to run away with Rem, abandon Emilia and everyone else to a horrible fate. But then Rem managed to help him overcome his feeling of powerlessness through her words. And in order to prove that they got through to him, he had to remind her and himself what he was fighting for. Also, if it makes you feel better. Subaru even admits that he’s fallen for rem in the novels as well and that he feels like a horrible 2 timer for it. Though, it’s unlikely he’ll wind up with any kind of harem IMO
I stopped watching for a while when he got torn up by the rabbits
I stopped watching the show around the episode where I believe Rem attempted to kill Subaru. It was then that I came to the realization that I have a distaste for Groundhog Day tropes, where every time a character resets time, much of the character development is erased. For instance, a character might confess their love to their love interest and you think that the story is moving forward, only to find out that everything has been reset! Moreover, due to a fixed point in the timeline, they cannot express their feelings again, which is frustrating.
in re zero the failed loops are usually demonstrating character traits which are negative for said characters, and are later addressed in the actual timeline. Rem's reactions to Subaru in that episode are just elements of her background coming to the surface which exist in every version of the timeline there, but they begin to be resolved when she latches onto Subaru for how he helped find worth in her outside of being her sister's replacement. There are also other events to help address her suspicion of the witch's scent. However Rem's character arc also isn't complete. Their character development doesn't reset for the simple reason that you're making the assumption this is a show where the plot points develop the characters, rather than the characters and their differing perspectives being the things which progress the plot(which is why things can happen in a failed loop without character development being ruined, because the foundations of their characters are never lost because of undone events, and often they progress due to changed events instead).
i personally love any anime that can make me feel something new, even if its something like this that made me pause the show and take a lap around my room.
I personally just didn't like the show because I found it hard to watch. I dropped it end of season 1, I felt like that was adequate time to see subaru grow, but I didn't see anything. The problem I have with subaru is there is nothing reedemable about him. I love watching characters grow in many other mediums, but they always have something slightly reedemable about them. Naruto, lil cringey lil annoying, but he has that never give up hard working attitude. Kazuya from Rent-a-gf, even more cringe than Subaru but I love him because he has many moments that show his kindness and how much he genuinely cares for other people, in a selfless wholesome way. Subaru on the other hand is selfish and so privileged and even after all the shame and humiliation he gets, he doesn't change, doesn't have that wake up moment, nor does he grow, and if anything rides off other's victories and acts as if he deserves other people's victories.
I do appreciate how well they showed depression in Subaru, but I don't agree it's the most accurate description, especially after seeing Bojack Horseman, although it would be unfair to compare the two. He feels more like a Shinji Ikari, and although I was able to watch Neon in it's entirety, I def hated the show a lot more because of Shinji, and how annoying he was, and this show just gave me the same vibes.
That being said, hopefully Subaru grows, and I think I'll give the show a second shot. (Spoilers for season 6 My Hero Academia forward) Especially because I thought Subaru was such an irredeemable character, like Bakugo from MHA, but in my eyes Bakugo has grown a lot, and that has actually made me like Bakugo that much more, he feels even more realistic because of that. I personally don't deem him as redeemed right now, but I think he's on the right path and excited to see what Bakugo turns into in the future seasons. But if Subaru really does change, I'll def give the show another shot. Thank you.
I also made it to the end of Season 1 and I didn't see any of the growth people are talking about. Rem's entire speech was her simping for his stupid behavior, not telling him to grow. He was the exact same obnoxious dweeb during the flying whale arc.
Yeah, I only watched past this episode to see if he died so that that scene would be undone.
He didn''t, so I dropped it. Mother's Basement made an excellent case for the show in a video essay that I watched so after seeing that I rewatched it and liked it.
A few years ago I dropped the show at this episode, but a while after I picked it back up for some reason. Now it proudly holds a placement in my top five favorite shows. I probably wasn't a big fan of the scene because I did not understand the complexity behind Subaru's aggression.
Yeah, Subaru can be real cringe, and I get the feeling of wanting to be a hero. It's just that Subaru can't become the hero that he wants to be in other words the overpowered hero that wins the fights. Instead, he has to become the hero that brings people together to overcome obstacles, and lead them in the "right" direction, since you know he has been through the worst outcomes. But yeah, that episode was hard to watch cause Amelia didn't deserve his outburst, but in a way he deserve to let out his anger just not at her. I mean the guy keeps dying over and over again, and he really wants to explain to Amelia what he has been going through, but can't due to the curse. As someone who has dealt with depression, it can really eat you up and if you don't share it with someone it can really destroy you. I honestly believe those people that drop the show if they went through the experience of dying over and over again like Subaru does, then they would snap too. It's not really an experience that you can keep your sanity with and stay calm about. In the end, I don't think Subaru will ever be my favorite protagonist but he is certainly better than a lot of ones I have seen. Best character of show is Rem anyways.
It seems like I might be the only one but… when watching for the very first time, I was absolutely on Subarus side. I knew he was making poor decisions that would just make things worse, but I’m self aware enough to realize that I probably would have done the same things.
It’s hard to watch him self destruct in that way, but I never fully understood the hate or annoyance at him. He’s a very realistic person and I think that’s much more interesting than a protagonist that does everything right the first time.
As "annoying" as subaru lashing out might seem, i think the people that hated it THAT MUCH watched the show with a blindfold on and their ears plugged.
That lashing out was caused by this guy, who at the end of the day is just an ordinary dude, dying over and over and over and over to save everyone around him, but not a single person knew it. No one thanked him even once. Anyone would have a reaction like that at MINIMUM
I think a lot of people don't notice on their first viewing or don't understand that natsuki subaru being a piece of crap is intentional, and that it is after this point he is forced to face his shitty nature n change.
I too would quit watching an anime because someone showed me the dub and not the sub. It feels like an entirely different show that is trying its hardest to be the same show.
People forget that he is just a kid
Honestly, the reason I dropped it is that I just got bored
Why, tho? It is literally always have interesting cliffhanger at the end of an episode.
@@Ltmqt probably cause it didn’t have a fight scene every episode
I feel like no one understands that ending scene. I read someone call his speech at the end a "crybaby incel meltdown" and it really rubbed me the wrong way. Subaru is ultimately right in what he says he just says it in a really bad way that does come off as him being a self-entitled prick and does highlight his flaws but he is right. He did save emilia and without him she would be dead along with countless other people. His meddling does save the day, it doesn't matter if the situation seems hopeless his actions cause everyone to be saved. Subaru being around her is the most surefire way to make sure bad stuff doesn't happen because if it does he'll be able to solve it by virtue of being able to come back to life infinitely.
I disagree about him thinking he's a hero, i've only watched the first season so maybe the novels or later seasons say otherwise but I never got the impression he wanted to be a hero. Any hero stuff he does I think is just the natural result of being able to come back to life, if people in real life could come back to life the same way subaru does I feel there would be a lot more guys acting like heroes but they wouldn't be heroes they would just be confident, and that can make you look like a hero. Same with the game thing, I don't think he was ever treating the world he was in like a game, maybe in the actions he took it was like a game 'cause he could "restart" but I don't think there was a single moment he treated the people around him like it was all some game. He acts self-centered yes but he can go back in time when he dies so him disregarding what people say makes sense when he knows any possible danger he might encounter can be reversed.
This was my favourite episode and still is even if it's marred by people who call it a "crybaby incel meltdown" and just generally not understanding what makes a good character. I tell you man that shit really did rub me the wrong way, I had to do pushups and a run to get the anger out of my system when I first read that. I slept on re:zero for a long while but it is a damn good show, guys who don't like it because subaru is "cringe" and "weak" don't know a damn thing.
I hated Subaru so much but I still liked the show and love how much he’s been changing through it all. I consider it a classic.
A person i know dropped it because they got tired of the show's overall structure where Subaru suffers, dies over and over until he gets to a solution/path where his friends and himself are alive. "Rinse and repeat" to them as i would assume they were thinking. It's nonsensical to me as for why someone would drop this show based purely off of that particular aspect when there's so much more to it.