@@bobdylan1968 Yeah but whats it gonna do, Toji showed he was fully capable of living without his soul. With the information shown in this video, if Mahito changed Toji's soul, his body wouldn't change, Toji's body literally beats the soul.
@@cocoaduckythat’s not what happened, his soul was placed into a body using a technique, his special body broke the rules of the technique and it glitched or something
@WhoTfsTrendn nah he a bum lmao the most op bum though. "Ah so you didn't have your last name changed to zenin I'm glad" (kills himself to avoid child support)
Unfortunate that Mahito has to go against one of the strongest characters in the series who just so happens to have the only curse tool in the series to counter him lol.
@@sixfromtokyorealistically, even when using Playful Cloud, Toji would still be able to damage Mahito due to having the ability to perceive the soul irregardless of what weapon he has in his hands
Tp use the soul split katana, Maki had to be able to see the souls of even inanimate objects, which Maki does. Since we know that Toji can also use Soul Split, he has to be able to percieve the soul
Mahito can take away tojis heavenly restriction and give him cursed energy just like he did with mechamaru but toji still speedblitz him with any special grade cursed tool he would win.
-Toji gets resurrected again “Ah shit” -Toji sees Mahito -Toji mops the floor with him with pure hands and cursed tools -Sees Megumi again -Offs himself again
the fact that toji came back without "soul data" but still has his sense of self for the most part, puts kenjakus "soul and body are one" theory pretty much as the definitive thing, such as when geto's body responded to gojo's provocation and tried to strangle kenjaku
Indeed. This is frequently ignored in discussions around JJK, but unanimously demonstrates that Mahito’s theory about the “shape of a soul” is a bunch of delusional, Platonic nonsense. Mahito is a wasteful, arrogant, wrong idiot, whose saving grace is just happening to be strong. But that’s about it. When it’s shown to him point-blank that he was wrong, he doesn’t pause to consider if he was wrong and what that means, he instantly finds a very bad justification.
@@siegwardofcatarina100 yah no, we have 2 examples of kenjakus theory, but mostly not much on mahitos, geto responded to gojo while being kenjaku, and toji came back as more than just a suit for the son sorcerrer to use, due to his unique body, he came back with his soul, his essense.
@@M3N04well it’s likely impossible for toji to actually win against sukuna or Gojo because they are practically even in speed, for physical prowess I can see toji winning though. Unless toji acquires some broken tool like the court sword where you one tap the guilty person, then he loses
Toji is definitely the fastest and strongest character behind Maki. That said, the trade-off for this is that he has no cursed techniques, no black flash, no domain expansion/simple domain and I think the most important thing is that he lacks reverse cursed energy so he can't heal himself. Unless he can utterly overwhelm his opponent, he will lose a fair fight. He had huge prep time vs. unawakened Gojo, fully studied him, jumped him at his most exhausted, had the only weapon that counters his limitless and had even then he only managed to get in close enough to stab Gojo because he was too focused on protecting Amanai which gave him the opening he needed.
Was going to say that sounds like a pretty even matchup but then you brought up the tummy ache I don't think Toji can do a lot with THAT MUCH of a handicap
It might be that they're thinking of Shibuya Toji with only Playful Cloud vs Post Awakened Maki with Soulsplitter. It's possible that Toji could damage Mahito with Playful Cloud since he could use Soulsplitter that requires sensing the souls of inanimate objects, but it's not confirmed. So thinking that Shibuya Toji might not be able to seriously damage Mahito has some validity.
@@tristan6773jogo is getting obliterated, naobito is faster than jogo and curse naoya is faster than naobito, since toji is relative to maki and maki defeated curse naoya with mid diff after her second awakening then toji should be faster than jogo and since jogo resistance is quiet low compared to dagon or hanami then it would be a low or no diff.
I believe Kenjaku knows better than Mahito when he says the soul is the body even if it's Mahito's ability you also need to take into account that kenjaku lived for over a thousand year and is someone that switch body. From what Kenjaku said and what we saw so far he's right and you can see it when Toji took over the body of that old lady grandson and also when Geto's body tried to fight Kenjaku.
Toji taking over the grandson is a bad example because his soul isn't there & The fanbook Gege says Geto fighting back was the equivalent of a dragonfly moving when its head is cut off. Nothing special.
His soul being not there doesn't mean anything , his body was able to overcome the soul of the grandsons which shouldn't be the case, that's just to show how strong tojis soul and body actually is Doesn't matter if it was his soul or body at this point
@@sixfromtokyo I might be wrong but I heard that cursed energy is like what seperates the body and soul, so toji's body and soul are like super close idk how to explain but the reason he took over the grandson was because his body being there means that functionally his soul is also there, so toji's body and soul overpowered the grandsons soul or smth like that
@@sixfromtokyo mabye they saw the "so cursed techniques dictate our worlds,huh? I like that. Its poetic" and started hallucinating cursed energy instead or smth.
Imagine Toji being able to destroy Mahito’s domain expansion with the inverted spear of heaven just like he did with Kuchisake Onna in his fight against Geto
Mahito's hand probably blows up as he tries to configure Toji's soul honestly. Toji with the soul split Katana pretty much destroys, however the fight could last a lot longer without it, Toji would have to beat Mahito into using a DE so Toji can beat him when he doesn't have Idle Transfiguration.
Mahito use his Domain, especially if does the it like Gojo in shibuya, Toji will be affected. Six forgot to mention that the domain of Mahito directly detect the souls not the curse energy.
@@billygrayson460 Toji reaction time works like seeing the future so he would easily predict mahito doing that and he can leave the domain expansion when he wants
Toji was faster than what Six Eyes could see. “Toji doesn’t have curse energy” You right but his curse he carries around does, and Gojo stated himself that he was moving extraordinarily fast This was the same guy who technically was the 2nd strongest in the series before he got bumped to The Strongest after his awakening And even then Toki reacted to and took a head on collision from Red
@@maniac7302 the effects from the shockwave still apply along with him crashing through a building at high speeds Doesn’t matter if it’s a weak energy source, Gojo can track it and him not being able to track the energy source proves Toji is just that guy
Lmao are u mental ? Toji was not faster than the six eyes WTH are u saying 😂😂 he literally summoned a whole lot of curses because gojo was not used to fighting someone with non curse energy so he could sneak attack gojo and kill him. He did say he was moving fast not faster than the six eyes could detect him. Lmao if he could do that why did he summon the curses ?
The big sword Toji used is called the Soulsplitter Katana. From it's name you can probably guess what it's ability is. Mahito's immunity to physical damage will not protect him against Toji and Toji physical prowess is just 20 level above Mahito so he can never touch him.
@@dylanrackham7838 ok and? It might not be the exact soul splitter but he still has his split soul katana. Same thing different name. Stop talking out your ass
@@dylanrackham7838 , actually, it's exact opposite of what you said. Toji had the original Split Soul Katana as a cursed tool. What Mai created for Maki was a replica of this tool.
Toji's only downfall was his pride he thought he discarded. I doubt he would have the same carelessness when he fought Gojo. Not to mention Toji's body is almost independent of his soul. Having Overpowering a soul based curse due to his body being special alone.
Its so unfair 😂. Yuki if she (somehow/extremely unlikely) starts losing blackhole, Kenjuku negs, Yuta has reverse curse technique, Gojo😶🌫️, Sukuna😶🌫️.
Mahito when he has to face thousands of curse spirits:💀 Mahito when yuta uses reverse cursed technique on him:💀 Mahito when he’s hit with with Garuda with tons of mass on him over and over until he can’t reshape his body:💀 Mahito when he’s hit with a hollow purple:💀
i also feel like the inverted spear of heaven is also a pretty good counter against mahito since it can nullify cursed techniques on contact if toji stabbed it into mahito he might not even be able to use his soul reshaping healing thing and then using the soul splitter for good measure to make sure mahitos dead as a door nail
Good observation but I think mahitos technique is an after effect he won't heal while being hit he will heal after that when the sword is out of his body.
@@M3N04 The thing is, even if the spear doesn't stay in his body, Mahito can't heal fast enough to compensate for Toji's speed and propensity for overkill flurries. Mahito may have been weaker then, but Nanami and Yuji beating on him was enough to overcome his healing. Toji blending him with the spear and his soul cutting sword would be even worse
@@wikipediafollower I think he still can It doesn't matter how fast Toji moves, his punches wouldn't do anything even if mahito is "injured" Mahito woyld just keep regenerating until he can touch Toji, then Toji explodes. Toji's only bet is Soul Split katana If he doesn't have it, he's cooked
Yeah kenjaku is an expert on souls, probably beyond mahito. He’s got 1000 years of experience and his technique is body swapping, which involves the soul. Sukuna too. And to the soul theory, Toji wouldn’t have been able to override if mahito was correct, but he was, since the soul is the body
Kenjaku is not an expert on soul. His body swapping works on bodies not souls. When Geto started moving he made a theory based on his experience on bodies and Mahito explanation on souls, he doesn't know anything for sure. Granny has more experience than him on it. Think of this that way: 1. Mahito can change someone body by messing with soul. 2. Granny can summon someone else soul by using a part hat person body, but would rather summons the body informations and let someone else soul have it. That implies that body informations are enough to use the ability of the dead person. 3. Kenjaku can enters into someone else body and use the body informations to use their ability.
I think the better counter is that Kenjaku's view actually explains why idle transfiguration works the way that it does while mahito's doesn't. Idle transfiguration transforms the body because the body is the soul and the soul is the body
Mahito notes (when Kenjaku disagrees with him) that the properties/mechanics of the soul seem to depend on the cursed technique involved, since the interpretation of the technique is what affects how the soul and body behave
Just wanna toss out there that at least anime wise Toji calculated everything he knew before accepting the gojo death match. He's a hunter to an extent and the deer pulled out an aka 47 when before it was just shooting off small bits of its antlers in 8 second intevals.
@@basicinfo4130 ik. Toji gets hella craped on but before gojo was like "gravity control go brr" which is a stark difference from "auto healing, teleportation, and *BLACK **_F***KING_** HOLE **_GO BRRRRRRRR_* "
yujis soul is probably stronger than sukunas which overrides his, thats probably why he was so special and the only one able to consume his fingers and maintain control
@@makotonaegi4419isnt that literally his whole character in the shibuya arc conclusion a coward who crawl on all four begging kenjaku to save him when he's out of options
@@justsomelazybrit2707that's even more of a massacre than this Jonin minato heck teen minato wins without ftg arguably Tho a toji vs naruto character fight wld be cool tho
lmfao what bruh the only people in this verse who could possibly even survive an attack from the 9tails are sukuna gojo and mahito(difference reasons not durability) @@gameuniverse5973
1:18 Mahito: "Maybe we should let a few humans survive. On the weekends we'll let them loose in the forest and hunt them." Jogo: "Can I burn down the forest?" Mahito: "Hanami would be upset!" Jogo: "Hanami's dead." Mahito: "Fr?"
In Shibuya, if Toji came across Mahito before obtaining a Cursed Tool, he wouldn't have a way to kill Mahito. He could whoop ass all he wants but without a weapon to complement his ability to perceive the Soul, all he'd do is make Mahito run away and avoid fighting him.
@@somaloll Curses work differently than Humans. You can't kill a Curse without a Cursed Tool. Even Yuji with all of his superhuman strength and the ability to perceive a soul had to use a Cursed Tool before he even had Cursed Energy to use. Toji is overly glazed. He can't do anything to a Curse other than traumatize them.
@@seksaouiabderraouf2531 Did you not read my original post? "In Shibuya, if Toji came across Mahito *before* obtaining a Cursed Tool, he wouldn't have a way to kill Mahito."
@demod2080 bro what are you on about, you need a cursed tool if youre not a jujutsu sorcerer. people who can manipulate ce dont need a cursed tool to exorcise curses this was established in like the first chapter, use your eyes my guy, gojo has literally never used a cursed tool in the series ever, how did you even come to that conclusion. Just because you have no cursed energy and dont have a cursed tool doesnt mean you cant do any damage do a curse either, you just cant properly exorcise a curse for some unexplained reason but what this doesnt mean is that if you hit a curse with 0 cursed energy its just impervious, thats simply just not the case. Maki can hit and damage curses with her bare hands. A cursed tool doesnt have to be some insane weapon either, it can literally just be a random katana embued with cursed energy or a stick with cursed energy lol, literally just a knife with the blood of a curse on it would probably do fine. since Toji cant exorcise a curse without a curse tool he would just beat the brakes off mahito with his fists and then stab him in the head with a sharpened stick with cursed energy on it or something lol.
Hey six, great video. Something I kind of miss from old colab videos is, different versions of the fighters. I get that didn’t really matter here cuz toji no-low diffs mahito, but it would be nice to see for example, Toji in shibuya, without his arsenal. Alive toji no arsenal W/arsenal, etc
Important thing to note is that viz translation of Sorcerers not being able to defend their souls is wrong. The actual translation was they are not used to meaning in theory all Sorcerers can but they have to understand their soul.
"...which obviously implies there are souls with stronger rejection" correct, it's the main reason "body repel" works: forcing strongly rejecting souls into one, making them violently reject each other and shoot out as a devestating attack
I think mahito was holding back but not in the not using his full power way. In shibuya he doesn’t change his shape much against yuji aside from mostly weapons. But we know he can make himself faster and stronger by reshaping his soul. Like gorilla arms or deer/horse legs.
@@seksaouiabderraouf2531I mean yeah Toji bodies I just like to leave comments to clear up misconceptions cause mahito was weakened and not using all of his forms just his og. But even if mahito was 2 times stronger, tougher and faster, someone of yuta’s level with the ability to see the soul should be able to one shot blitz even without durability negation.
He's forced to hold back against yuji, he states himself that because it sukuna he can't transfigure yuji. Its why that 0.2 second domain was even used. As for the reshaping thing, wouldn't matter, Toji would still be quicker. Best case scenario for Mahito is that Toji has no Cursed tools, so mahito would just be surviving everything thrown at him until he's able to enter wear Toji down, or due to his rate of growth and learning, he'd eventually become a Special grade on the level of Gojo and Sukuna. Toji can't protect his soul with curse energy like everyone else, so for both of them if toji has soul split or inverted spear, it's a case of who hits who first. And toji has shown to be much quicker.
Kenjaku with 1000 years of experimentation and knowledge probably has a deeper understanding of the soul than Mahito. kenjaku's entire thing is hijacking the bodies of others, so he likely has a deep understanding of the soul in relation to the body based on those experiements.
Not true at all, since Toji’s HR makes any action using CE against him difficult or even moot. Mahito can’t track him, trap him in a domain, catch him to even use IT, etc. It’s Toji’s stats + SSK that makes it Uber unfair.
Just realized Sukuna's domain doesn't ignore Toji. Even though he doesn't have curse energy, the dismantle will kill him and the barrier less, 200ft radius is even worse than a barrier one that he can escape.
It's not about the barrier. It's about sukuna's domain rules. He can target EVERYTHING including objects with no ce like toji You can argue that toji is surly fast enough to get out of the barrier before it works
@@VK-x22 Resistance isn't immunity, for a top tier sorcerer like Sukuna and Gojo will definitely kill them due to their high CE output. Plus if their resistance is that great, Toji should've tanked hollow purple instead of dying in it.
@@morthread017 Hollow Purple straight up erase matter and even Sukuna has a hard time tanking it so bad argument + Toji took a full power red from awakened Gojo and took nearly no damages, prooving my point.
i love how drawing hands has a infamous reputation in the art community. meanwhile the guy who drew mahito's domain expansion just flexes his abilities towards that statement.
I've said this before if you out scale mahito you can literally beat mahito to a pulp and force him to use up all his curse energy which is where his healing comes from so without cursed energy he can't heal
Mahitos healing isnt his technique. Its just a special property of the way he is as a curse. So unless a character can be aware of the shape of their own soul, they cant beat mahito.
@@tyrant1081 beating him to a pulp is pointless, he doesn't even bleed if you don't strike his soul (that's why Nanami realized that Yuji damaged him, because in their first fight Mahito was unscathed no matter how many times he hit him).
At 4:10 Its funny because kenjakus theorie of the soul also perfectly applies to toji, otherwise he wouldn't have had his conscousness, when his body was revived by that old lady.
For me its a simple one, Toji is superior in every way aside from cursed technique. Does Mahitos technique work, if yes Toji cant protect himself with cursed energy like Nanami did. That would be the only way that Mahito could get a win in, IF he gets to use it. Otherwise Toji wins straight up.
Mahito wouldn't touch toji at all Todo and yuji are able to dodge mahito and toji is much much faster and got precog literally naoya who is much faster than mahito wasn't able to land a single hit on maki while in the air
@@KaeldoIt's not impossible, just very unlikely due to the pure speed that Toji has. Saying that, Mahito can warp things to lure Toji into the palm of his hand so ig we'll never know
This is interesting because Toji is all big stats with no special powers (disconsidering his weapons). And Mahito is one of the characters with the most op hax in the manga.
First, regarding the Culling Game Incarnated Sorcerers, I think that they can harm Mahito due to taking over another's body and having their souls in conflict, but they also would lose if Mahito got his hands on them a couple of times (like what was stated with Todo), as they do not have the ability to intentionally attack/defend the soul, only doing so as a subconscious thing from the possession. They are not Sukuna and able to stop intrusions into their soul and attack back. And about Toji winning, I think that it fully depends on if he has the Soul Splitting Blade with him. Being able to see the soul means nothing if you cannot hit it, the Heavenly Restriction does not give the ability to hit/damage souls, only to perceive them, so without it, the battle is just one of attrition that Mahito would win due to not taking any meaningful damage and wearing Toji out.
The fact that he can use the soul splitter at all is proof. Seeing the soul is what allows one to hit it, read the mahito vs itadori fight again, the reason he can damage mahitos soul is because he can see the contours of it. Toji blitzes him (this isnt debateable) and tears his head off split soul or not.
@@amara7734 that is true for most, but they have cursed energy to facilitate that, and Maki/Toji with any other weapon do not show capabilites to harm the soul.
@@thecount1510 what do you mean "cursed energy to facilitate that", if you mean he cant excorcise mahito without a cursed tool then duh of course he cant, you cant toji couldnt exorcise even a finger bearer without a cursed tool, what i mean is he could kill him with slaughter demon or nobaras hammer, or whatever grade 4 cursed tools exist. The fact that he can see it us why yuji can harm it (this is basically verbatim stated), give toji a cursed tool and same goes for him, soul splitter is just nicer because its duraneg but its overkill for that roach mahito
@poopee4702 i literally only see people saying Toji gets glazed with barely anybody glazing him. So many people were saying Jogo>Toji while also saying toji gets constantly glazed like where is the glazing
@@somalollthe jogo thing is just pitty because the guy went against the 2 worst matchups. But lets be fair toji is another horrible match up against jogo. Unlike sukuna and gojo he wouldn't play with him
the only thing i can bring up that i feel you ignored is the fact that mahito could heal mechamaru's Heavenly restriction and give him a working body. think that could be useful against toji
Being strong is not really a counter to Mahito's technique, it just means he cannot kill you in a tap or 1 attempt. Nanami was still harmed by Mahito's technique, Nanami just was not completely transfigured because he instinctively protected his soul with curse energy. Edit-> Honestly, Mahito obviously got stronger from his true form going off how easily he was throwing Yuji around.
@@Optclzr "He beats souls and can live without one" Toji's body beat a weak soul. He lived because of a technique. If Mahito transfigured his soul its gg. A puppet is immune
Are there actually people who believe toji wont no diff the disaster curses? Look what he did to dagon he negative diffed him literally negative effort.
@@Blackmustache870 Toji fought dagon with playful cloud, he would be stronger with the inverted spear of heaven, chain of a thousand miles and the split soul katana
people dont realise that if toji had known about hollow purple, he probably wouldve won against awakened gojo seeing as he was doing just fine against everything else and gojo was probably at a somewhat weakened state
One thing I want to point out is that you misinterpreted Kenny’s belief of the soul. He said that it’s techinique dependent otherwise getos soul wouldn’t have been able to rebel
Mahito is crazy strong. And his innate skill is an on-contact, one-hit if you don't know how to deal with it. But Toji is a hard counter to him. Even if Toji's Heavenly Restriction didn't make him completely immune to Idle Transfiguration... I seriously doubt that Mahito could actually touch him to make use of it. Considering how brutally he beat Gojo, Geto and Dagon.
If we took away Tojis cursed tools, eventually Mahito would win by default due to no damage happening to Mahito, he'd eventually become strong enough and smart enough to win that fight, Mahito is rapidly developing at a rate that he couldve ended up at Gojo and Sukuna levels of strength. But unfortunately Toji has those cursed tools and his strength and speed out match what we saw from mahito
I didn't watch the whole video, so this may have been stated, but personally I think that idle transfiguration wouldn't affect Toji. I think the reason for that is because while typically the soul dictates the shape of the body, I think that in the case of Toji as a result of his heavenly restriction his body dictates the shape of his soul (if that makes sense). The reason for that is that because Ogami's curse technique just temporarily alters the body and she said that typically that wouldn't have an effect on the soul, that the soul shouldn't lose to the body (or have its form / nature dictated by the body). But obviously Toji's body converted her grandson's soul into his soul. I think his body shapes his soul to be the shape it is, so if you give someone else his body their soul will become shaped like his as if it were a reversed idle transfiguration. Mahito can only edit the shape of the soul and that changes the body, but in much the same way Mahito uses his cursed technique to maintain the shape of his soul to prevent physical damage I imagine Toji's body would automatically maintain the shape of his soul to fit the shape of his body. The only difference between the two being that obviously anyone (in theory) can damage Toji's body and not anyone can damage the soul. Toji just so happens to have cursed tools that would work against Mahito though so honestly I think he kind of no-diffs. That's just hypothetical though, if idle transfiguration works on Toji I'm not sure how it'd go.
12:16 Mahito domain has high chance to work because the barrier doesn't recognize curse energy but soul directly. That's how Sukuna soul was touched inside even though Mahito hadn't attacked it, so Mahito domain expansion is the only thing that could affect Toji. Especially if he uses it like Gojo did in shibuya.
That is a very good thought ! But remember that domains work as a "sure hit" so mahito's domain does indeed recegnize the souls but if it didn't sense the presence it wouldn't sure hit his soul I know i suck at explaning but imagine if you brought a stone to the barrier. The domain wouldn't change it's soul because it can't detect it's presence
@@HornyDenjithe thing with the sure hit effect is that it's the result of the domain targeting one's cursed energy, however Mahito's domain makes direct contact with the soul. Allowing him to immediately transfigure you.
@@HornyDenji yes i remember but they explained that sure hit works because the domain localize the curse energy inside and attack based on that. Maki was considered as an object because she doesn't have curse energy. But Mahito domain sure hit works because the domain detects the souls inside. Mahito's domain with someone like Maki and Toji would be like Sukuna domain, a domain without barrier, because they can't trap them and but sure hit will get them regardless.
@@HornyDenji yes she could stay out but that's why i brought up the way Gojo used his domain in shibuya, if activites for 0.02 secondes, Toji would be hit immediatly and unlike Todo he wouldn't have anything to protect him.
Wait Mahito’s cursed technique doesn’t technically work on Toji because Toji knows what his soul is. I say this because during Shibuya when the Grandpa person revived Toji with out his Soul Toji got his Soul back and gained control of his body again, which then means he’s self conscious about his soul meaning he could potentially block it. But now that I think about it he doesn’t have Cursed Energy so even if he is self aware of his soul he can’t really block it from Mahito.
3:19 and Mahito is then proven wrong twice. Once when Geto's body reacts to Gojo and second time when Toji's body overpowers the guy's soul. 12:13 This one doesn't always apply. We've seen Sukuna was able to target inanimate objects in his domain then he fought Mahoraga. So, imo, that might come to the skill of the user.
The geto thing isn't true. Gege described that as being like when a cockroach Dies, it can still move around for a while out of muscle memory, Geto was dead, but he still had slight control of the body due to muscle memory.
4:24 - Kenjaku hints that certain techniques can have their own workings. We see Toji's body overtaking someone's soul, so it is more than likely that Kenjaku's explanation that both are one and the same IS the truth, but for Mahito specifically his soul takes precedence.
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Mahito when he tries to touch Toji's soul, but realizes Toji gambled it on a horse race and lost it years ago.
HAHAHHA LMAO
He absolutely could manipulate his soul though. Absolutely no reason why not
@@bobdylan1968 Yeah but whats it gonna do, Toji showed he was fully capable of living without his soul. With the information shown in this video, if Mahito changed Toji's soul, his body wouldn't change, Toji's body literally beats the soul.
@@bobdylan1968Toji is literally just built different
@@cocoaduckythat’s not what happened, his soul was placed into a body using a technique, his special body broke the rules of the technique and it glitched or something
“Toji would try to end the fight quickly and go back to being a bum and neglecting his kids” was real af lmao
Bro is far from a bum he just got nun to loose 😅 bro was gambling mils like he had 2 lifes and he did😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 for 20 mins
@WhoTfsTrendn nah he a bum lmao the most op bum though. "Ah so you didn't have your last name changed to zenin I'm glad" (kills himself to avoid child support)
Kids?
@@Cyb3rRust LMFAO REAL
@@Sole_x_animationsthat EMO mf that try’s to kil himself every 5 min cuz he can’t win shit
Unfortunate that Mahito has to go against one of the strongest characters in the series who just so happens to have the only curse tool in the series to counter him lol.
He lowkey has 2 lol
@@sixfromtokyorealistically, even when using Playful Cloud, Toji would still be able to damage Mahito due to having the ability to perceive the soul irregardless of what weapon he has in his hands
@@huntershurley4331when was it ever shown he could do that
@duggeeo4147 not shown but its stated that him and maki can see people's souls
Tp use the soul split katana, Maki had to be able to see the souls of even inanimate objects, which Maki does. Since we know that Toji can also use Soul Split, he has to be able to percieve the soul
Mahito when he realised he can't transfigure Toji's soul due to Toji's pure, unadulterated badassery: "I'm in danger"
Mahito can take away tojis heavenly restriction and give him cursed energy just like he did with mechamaru but toji still speedblitz him with any special grade cursed tool he would win.
@@slauxtrr oh just imagine what kind of monster would Toji be with both a naturally superhuman body and cursed energy at the same time
@@slauxtrr dont think he can tho, because toji NEVER had ANY cursed energy. Its a different case then the one of Mechamaru
@@slauxtrr that's not how it works. You may want to check the mechamaru scene again
@@anoaboadosaroI think you don't understand how heavenly restriction works if you have that kind of theory 😂
Toji is fast enough to dodge child support, even IF Mahito's curse technique worked on him, Toji is just too fast for that
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This is the most valid reason here and no one can tell me otherwise
Toji can't hurt mahitos soul
@@Polar45870 dude literally has a weapon called a soul splitting katana. What are you talking about?
@@rickojay7536 that's if he gets the katana with him the guy in the video talked about possessed toji
-Toji gets resurrected again
“Ah shit”
-Toji sees Mahito
-Toji mops the floor with him with pure hands and cursed tools
-Sees Megumi again
-Offs himself again
Bro is really avoiding that child support
@@sweetpeaches6916can't blame him it's expensive
He gonna be the new mahoraga
@@rutherix9387" With this milk i summon... "
@@rifarira9160 nah, more like: "With this six pack I summon..."
the fact that toji came back without "soul data" but still has his sense of self for the most part, puts kenjakus "soul and body are one" theory pretty much as the definitive thing, such as when geto's body responded to gojo's provocation and tried to strangle kenjaku
Yea that was my first thought. I was like, “did bro just forget about that?”
Indeed. This is frequently ignored in discussions around JJK, but unanimously demonstrates that Mahito’s theory about the “shape of a soul” is a bunch of delusional, Platonic nonsense. Mahito is a wasteful, arrogant, wrong idiot, whose saving grace is just happening to be strong. But that’s about it. When it’s shown to him point-blank that he was wrong, he doesn’t pause to consider if he was wrong and what that means, he instantly finds a very bad justification.
That, or there's the interpretation of the soul being different for different people.
@@siegwardofcatarina100 Yeah, no, sorry, objective reality objectively exists. Kenny is a diferent brand of a moron, but also a moron.
@@siegwardofcatarina100 yah no, we have 2 examples of kenjakus theory, but mostly not much on mahitos, geto responded to gojo while being kenjaku, and toji came back as more than just a suit for the son sorcerrer to use, due to his unique body, he came back with his soul, his essense.
Toji is the batman of JJK, with enough prep time, he'll always win. He only lost to Gojo because he didn't prepare for Gojo having an anime power up.
Yeah but even with prep I can't see him taking awakened gojo or sukuna but maybe he will find a way that we don't know in the series.
@@M3N04well it’s likely impossible for toji to actually win against sukuna or Gojo because they are practically even in speed, for physical prowess I can see toji winning though. Unless toji acquires some broken tool like the court sword where you one tap the guilty person, then he loses
Sukuna already countered that@@moshietter3206
@@moshietter3206nah just give toji a honeybun and tell em if he wins he doesn’t have to pay child support. He’d beat em in a 1 v 2
Toji is definitely the fastest and strongest character behind Maki. That said, the trade-off for this is that he has no cursed techniques, no black flash, no domain expansion/simple domain and I think the most important thing is that he lacks reverse cursed energy so he can't heal himself. Unless he can utterly overwhelm his opponent, he will lose a fair fight.
He had huge prep time vs. unawakened Gojo, fully studied him, jumped him at his most exhausted, had the only weapon that counters his limitless and had even then he only managed to get in close enough to stab Gojo because he was too focused on protecting Amanai which gave him the opening he needed.
What if toji was blind, lost his hearing in his left ear, had 6 of his fingers sliced off, and had a bad tummy ache? Would mahito win that or no.
Mahito would prolly win yea lmao
Was going to say that sounds like a pretty even matchup but then you brought up the tummy ache I don't think Toji can do a lot with THAT MUCH of a handicap
Underrated comment🤣
Nah, he'd win
He still has is mouth and he can slice and dice like sukuna
“Throughout the heavens and the earth I alone have dodged child support”
Toji zenin
*fushiguro
it's crazy how people often say that toji gets swept by mahito while also saying post awakened maki sweeps mahito
Mahito negs both
It might be that they're thinking of Shibuya Toji with only Playful Cloud vs Post Awakened Maki with Soulsplitter.
It's possible that Toji could damage Mahito with Playful Cloud since he could use Soulsplitter that requires sensing the souls of inanimate objects, but it's not confirmed. So thinking that Shibuya Toji might not be able to seriously damage Mahito has some validity.
@@Straight__ mahito cant touch any of them, he got beaten by a fucking semi grade 1
@@Straight__ not only they can one tap him but also they are stronger and faster than mahito lol
Maki has a soul splitting katana
Already know Toji gonna give Fraudhito the Dagon treatment LOL.
Y’all love calling people a fraud just because they lose 😂
@@devonharvey8414 Fraudjo
Fraudgo
Fraudkuna
Fraudhito
Fraudji
Fraudvey8414
nah now y'all just taking jokes way too seriously. fraudhito is absurd
@@devonharvey8414mahito gets stomped by toji tho. all of the disaster curses do. maybe jogo can test him
@@tristan6773jogo is getting obliterated, naobito is faster than jogo and curse naoya is faster than naobito, since toji is relative to maki and maki defeated curse naoya with mid diff after her second awakening then toji should be faster than jogo and since jogo resistance is quiet low compared to dagon or hanami then it would be a low or no diff.
I believe Kenjaku knows better than Mahito when he says the soul is the body even if it's Mahito's ability you also need to take into account that kenjaku lived for over a thousand year and is someone that switch body. From what Kenjaku said and what we saw so far he's right and you can see it when Toji took over the body of that old lady grandson and also when Geto's body tried to fight Kenjaku.
Toji taking over the grandson is a bad example because his soul isn't there & The fanbook Gege says Geto fighting back was the equivalent of a dragonfly moving when its head is cut off. Nothing special.
His soul being not there doesn't mean anything , his body was able to overcome the soul of the grandsons which shouldn't be the case, that's just to show how strong tojis soul and body actually is
Doesn't matter if it was his soul or body at this point
@@sixfromtokyo I might be wrong but I heard that cursed energy is like what seperates the body and soul, so toji's body and soul are like super close idk how to explain but the reason he took over the grandson was because his body being there means that functionally his soul is also there, so toji's body and soul overpowered the grandsons soul or smth like that
@@lordmike9331 Nah whoever told you that is a straight liar. That is never stated in any media related to JJK
@@sixfromtokyo mabye they saw the "so cursed techniques dictate our worlds,huh? I like that. Its poetic" and started hallucinating cursed energy instead or smth.
I love when I saw someone saying that Toji doesn't have a way to attack the soul...
They really be exposin themselves for not readin
Yeah all it takes is a weapon he non longer has when he has weaker stats
They forget he attacked the souls of Twitter hoes everywhere 🥱
@@gameuniverse5973I don't usually say this but...🤡
@@gameuniverse5973nah, because he (and maki) are able to perceive the soul they can just directly damage it in the same way Yuji can
Mahito not gon appreciate that soul splitter katana 😂
Imagine Toji being able to destroy Mahito’s domain expansion with the inverted spear of heaven just like he did with Kuchisake Onna in his fight against Geto
Exactly what would happen
He destroyed a simple domain not a domain expansion, but that could very likely happen
Before mahito can cast his domain his head is already in the ground
I thought DEs don't affect people with heavenly restriction? Hence, why Maki and Toji can just enter and exit domains at will
@@sushi_17I think so
Mahito's hand probably blows up as he tries to configure Toji's soul honestly. Toji with the soul split Katana pretty much destroys, however the fight could last a lot longer without it, Toji would have to beat Mahito into using a DE so Toji can beat him when he doesn't have Idle Transfiguration.
Nah the fight is even shorter with reverse spear of heaven and since Mahito can't sense him, he's hella vulnerable
Mahito sense the soul, not the cursed energy, so Mahito can sense him perfectly.@@ecid1176
Mahito use his Domain, especially if does the it like Gojo in shibuya, Toji will be affected. Six forgot to mention that the domain of Mahito directly detect the souls not the curse energy.
@@billygrayson460And he also stated that Tojis soul wouldn’t be affected by mahitos ct
@@billygrayson460 Toji reaction time works like seeing the future so he would easily predict mahito doing that and he can leave the domain expansion when he wants
Toji was faster than what Six Eyes could see.
“Toji doesn’t have curse energy”
You right but his curse he carries around does, and Gojo stated himself that he was moving extraordinarily fast
This was the same guy who technically was the 2nd strongest in the series before he got bumped to The Strongest after his awakening
And even then Toki reacted to and took a head on collision from Red
Gojo was focusing on Toji not the weak cursed energy of his curse
Toji was only able to tank that red because he blocked with Isoh
@@maniac7302 the effects from the shockwave still apply along with him crashing through a building at high speeds
Doesn’t matter if it’s a weak energy source, Gojo can track it and him not being able to track the energy source proves Toji is just that guy
Lmao are u mental ? Toji was not faster than the six eyes WTH are u saying 😂😂 he literally summoned a whole lot of curses because gojo was not used to fighting someone with non curse energy so he could sneak attack gojo and kill him. He did say he was moving fast not faster than the six eyes could detect him. Lmao if he could do that why did he summon the curses ?
he didn't block it in the manga, he straight up tanked it @@maniac7302
He wasn't tho, why do you think he used the curses as chaff grenades? for flare? meet overrated man frfr
The big sword Toji used is called the Soulsplitter Katana.
From it's name you can probably guess what it's ability is. Mahito's immunity to physical damage will not protect him against Toji and Toji physical prowess is just 20 level above Mahito so he can never touch him.
Toji ain’t got the soulsplitter. That’s was given to maki by mai
@@dylanrackham7838 ok and? It might not be the exact soul splitter but he still has his split soul katana. Same thing different name. Stop talking out your ass
@@dylanrackham7838 , actually, it's exact opposite of what you said. Toji had the original Split Soul Katana as a cursed tool. What Mai created for Maki was a replica of this tool.
I mean, hell his theme is literally CALLED "PHYSICAL PROWESS"
Toji's only downfall was his pride he thought he discarded. I doubt he would have the same carelessness when he fought Gojo. Not to mention Toji's body is almost independent of his soul. Having Overpowering a soul based curse due to his body being special alone.
Body and Soul are one
Mahito vs anybody who’s around special grade level sorcerer is a mismatch
Its so unfair 😂. Yuki if she (somehow/extremely unlikely) starts losing blackhole, Kenjuku negs, Yuta has reverse curse technique, Gojo😶🌫️, Sukuna😶🌫️.
Mahito when he has to face thousands of curse spirits:💀
Mahito when yuta uses reverse cursed technique on him:💀
Mahito when he’s hit with with Garuda with tons of mass on him over and over until he can’t reshape his body:💀
Mahito when he’s hit with a hollow purple:💀
@@bacongod5759 geto would just turn him into a bakugan
@@theotherasianguy8249 Geto didn't eat Mahito, that was Kenjaku
@@narrativeless404 no shit, yet they have the same technique. Csm is Geto's technique
i also feel like the inverted spear of heaven is also a pretty good counter against mahito since it can nullify cursed techniques on contact if toji stabbed it into mahito he might not even be able to use his soul reshaping healing thing and then using the soul splitter for good measure to make sure mahitos dead as a door nail
Good observation but I think mahitos technique is an after effect he won't heal while being hit he will heal after that when the sword is out of his body.
@@M3N04 The thing is, even if the spear doesn't stay in his body, Mahito can't heal fast enough to compensate for Toji's speed and propensity for overkill flurries. Mahito may have been weaker then, but Nanami and Yuji beating on him was enough to overcome his healing. Toji blending him with the spear and his soul cutting sword would be even worse
@@wikipediafollower I think he still can
It doesn't matter how fast Toji moves, his punches wouldn't do anything even if mahito is "injured"
Mahito woyld just keep regenerating until he can touch Toji, then Toji explodes.
Toji's only bet is Soul Split katana
If he doesn't have it, he's cooked
Yeah kenjaku is an expert on souls, probably beyond mahito. He’s got 1000 years of experience and his technique is body swapping, which involves the soul. Sukuna too. And to the soul theory, Toji wouldn’t have been able to override if mahito was correct, but he was, since the soul is the body
Kenjaku is not an expert on soul. His body swapping works on bodies not souls. When Geto started moving he made a theory based on his experience on bodies and Mahito explanation on souls, he doesn't know anything for sure. Granny has more experience than him on it.
Think of this that way:
1. Mahito can change someone body by messing with soul.
2. Granny can summon someone else soul by using a part hat person body, but would rather summons the body informations and let someone else soul have it. That implies that body informations are enough to use the ability of the dead person.
3. Kenjaku can enters into someone else body and use the body informations to use their ability.
I think the better counter is that Kenjaku's view actually explains why idle transfiguration works the way that it does while mahito's doesn't.
Idle transfiguration transforms the body because the body is the soul and the soul is the body
@@Abyzz_Knight yup
Mahito notes (when Kenjaku disagrees with him) that the properties/mechanics of the soul seem to depend on the cursed technique involved, since the interpretation of the technique is what affects how the soul and body behave
Just wanna toss out there that at least anime wise Toji calculated everything he knew before accepting the gojo death match. He's a hunter to an extent and the deer pulled out an aka 47 when before it was just shooting off small bits of its antlers in 8 second intevals.
i laughed at this comment bro… for real this is what happened….
@@basicinfo4130 ik. Toji gets hella craped on but before gojo was like "gravity control go brr" which is a stark difference from "auto healing, teleportation, and *BLACK **_F***KING_** HOLE **_GO BRRRRRRRR_* "
W for an interesting match up
yujis soul is probably stronger than sukunas which overrides his, thats probably why he was so special and the only one able to consume his fingers and maintain control
kenjaku also pretty much made yuji in a lab to be able to do that.
@@tristan6773 That had to be a pretty normal looking lab.
@@paulhage4059the lab was yuji father bedroom
@@ezail9159 LOL
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I wonder what would happen if Mahito sees Shibuya Toji because he might see Toji's body but the Grandson's soul.
Never thought about that 😮
no tojis body just fucking dashed that dude out
“Take the red plot armor and the blue plot armor, mash then together for imaginary plot armor, imaginary technique, hollow, plot arrmor”
It would be cool if toji pulling out his soul splitter sent shivers down mahito's spine due to it's ability.
toji would be more interested ina nything mahito doesnt really fear ttthe concept of death more than anyhting and doesnt fit his character to do that.
@@makotonaegi4419just you wait
@@makotonaegi4419isnt that literally his whole character in the shibuya arc conclusion
a coward who crawl on all four begging kenjaku to save him when he's out of options
@@gengarclefairy3475 i already know what happeend.
@@cheeseyexoticbutters isn't that because he got knoced out of his new form and wasn't able to do anything else.
I misread the title as Minato vs Toji. 😂😂 Still a good video, though.
that might end up being a video now lol
@@justsomelazybrit2707that's even more of a massacre than this
Jonin minato heck teen minato wins without ftg arguably
Tho a toji vs naruto character fight wld be cool tho
@@justsomelazybrit2707 do you see toji being able to clash with the full nine tails tailed beast bomb in any way
@@onizukasensei5321 toji vs part one kakashi wait that still too high uhh cm2 kimminaro maybe he can last ten seconds
lmfao what bruh the only people in this verse who could possibly even survive an attack from the 9tails are sukuna gojo and mahito(difference reasons not durability) @@gameuniverse5973
Yeo let’s get the homie to 100k. Ppl put her wit 500k plus doin less work than Six. Bro is a goat get him to 100k fr
1:18 Mahito: "Maybe we should let a few humans survive. On the weekends we'll let them loose in the forest and hunt them."
Jogo: "Can I burn down the forest?"
Mahito: "Hanami would be upset!"
Jogo: "Hanami's dead."
Mahito: "Fr?"
In Shibuya, if Toji came across Mahito before obtaining a Cursed Tool, he wouldn't have a way to kill Mahito. He could whoop ass all he wants but without a weapon to complement his ability to perceive the Soul, all he'd do is make Mahito run away and avoid fighting him.
toji can see the soul he'd do him like he did Ino
@@somaloll Curses work differently than Humans. You can't kill a Curse without a Cursed Tool. Even Yuji with all of his superhuman strength and the ability to perceive a soul had to use a Cursed Tool before he even had Cursed Energy to use.
Toji is overly glazed. He can't do anything to a Curse other than traumatize them.
@@demod2080 he still has the broken piece of playful cloud, so he still kills him even with just that.
@@seksaouiabderraouf2531 Did you not read my original post?
"In Shibuya, if Toji came across Mahito *before* obtaining a Cursed Tool, he wouldn't have a way to kill Mahito."
@demod2080 bro what are you on about, you need a cursed tool if youre not a jujutsu sorcerer. people who can manipulate ce dont need a cursed tool to exorcise curses this was established in like the first chapter, use your eyes my guy, gojo has literally never used a cursed tool in the series ever, how did you even come to that conclusion.
Just because you have no cursed energy and dont have a cursed tool doesnt mean you cant do any damage do a curse either, you just cant properly exorcise a curse for some unexplained reason but what this doesnt mean is that if you hit a curse with 0 cursed energy its just impervious, thats simply just not the case. Maki can hit and damage curses with her bare hands. A cursed tool doesnt have to be some insane weapon either, it can literally just be a random katana embued with cursed energy or a stick with cursed energy lol, literally just a knife with the blood of a curse on it would probably do fine.
since Toji cant exorcise a curse without a curse tool he would just beat the brakes off mahito with his fists and then stab him in the head with a sharpened stick with cursed energy on it or something lol.
Wake up, Six just posted
Shit I was about to sleep
Jogo: "Can I burn down the forest?"
Mahito: "Hanami would be upset."
At least in that instance Mahito was empathetic.
I think he was saying that as a joke
You forgot to state that Toji's inverted spear of heaven can also destroy the barrier of a domain expansion completely shutting it down.
I don't think it can do the same that fully adapted Mahoraga can...
Six you don’t need to keep playing Your Battle Is My Battle OST in the background in loop😢
Yes... I... Do...
Toji video is always a treat but i lowkey wanted a Todo video today after that episode of anime with Todo being the star. still amazing video though.
Rather than toji not needing a soul to operate, I am pretty sure it has to do with him not having no cursed energy
Hey six, great video. Something I kind of miss from old colab videos is, different versions of the fighters. I get that didn’t really matter here cuz toji no-low diffs mahito, but it would be nice to see for example,
Toji in shibuya, without his arsenal.
Alive toji no arsenal
W/arsenal, etc
Important thing to note is that viz translation of Sorcerers not being able to defend their souls is wrong.
The actual translation was they are not used to meaning in theory all Sorcerers can but they have to understand their soul.
"...which obviously implies there are souls with stronger rejection"
correct, it's the main reason "body repel" works:
forcing strongly rejecting souls into one, making them violently reject each other and shoot out as a devestating attack
I think mahito was holding back but not in the not using his full power way. In shibuya he doesn’t change his shape much against yuji aside from mostly weapons. But we know he can make himself faster and stronger by reshaping his soul. Like gorilla arms or deer/horse legs.
wouldn't make a difference against someone at the level of toji, toji just outspeeds him massively.
@@seksaouiabderraouf2531I mean yeah Toji bodies I just like to leave comments to clear up misconceptions cause mahito was weakened and not using all of his forms just his og. But even if mahito was 2 times stronger, tougher and faster, someone of yuta’s level with the ability to see the soul should be able to one shot blitz even without durability negation.
He's forced to hold back against yuji, he states himself that because it sukuna he can't transfigure yuji. Its why that 0.2 second domain was even used.
As for the reshaping thing, wouldn't matter, Toji would still be quicker. Best case scenario for Mahito is that Toji has no Cursed tools, so mahito would just be surviving everything thrown at him until he's able to enter wear Toji down, or due to his rate of growth and learning, he'd eventually become a Special grade on the level of Gojo and Sukuna.
Toji can't protect his soul with curse energy like everyone else, so for both of them if toji has soul split or inverted spear, it's a case of who hits who first. And toji has shown to be much quicker.
waited this long for the manga to have videos like these
Kenjaku with 1000 years of experimentation and knowledge probably has a deeper understanding of the soul than Mahito. kenjaku's entire thing is hijacking the bodies of others, so he likely has a deep understanding of the soul in relation to the body based on those experiements.
Does so for the "soul" purpose. Ahaha good one bro
Nanami survived by protecting his soul with cursed energy theres more context than be strong
Fr
Simply beimg strong isn't always enough
Mahitos cursed technique is wild, like Kenjaku couldn't fall through with his plan without his technique
Toji bout to make Mahito look like Dagon again.
Nah mah
Dagon is literally the weakest of the 4 and Mahito is the strongest.
Toji trying to kill Mahito like that would literally be useless
@@narrativeless404 But mf still crawled like a dog 🙏
@@VillainArc09 Does it matter?
congrats on 100k
at the end of the day it truly renders on tojis weapons rather then stats
Not true at all, since Toji’s HR makes any action using CE against him difficult or even moot. Mahito can’t track him, trap him in a domain, catch him to even use IT, etc. It’s Toji’s stats + SSK that makes it Uber unfair.
This just isn't true
@@itachilove22 That's wrong lol
HR doesn't affect CTs in any way, unless they depend on target's own CE to work
Please never stop the jjk content u and ronin and no op are goated
Only if Mahiti was allowed to live in the Culling Games, We couldve seen the actual potential of True Form of Distorted Killing
Mahito will be ded if he encountered someone like Ryu, Kashimo even Kuroroshi
@@imtragon9228 Ryu Kashimo and Kuroroshi can't do a thing against Mahito, he could trash all of them, especially if he uses domain expansion.
@@imtragon9228 I disagree, Mahito has the same potential as people like Sukuna and Gojo. He was still a baby in Shibuya lmao
@@imtragon9228 if Mahito didn't die in Shibuya he could've gone on to be one of the strongest curse's to exist lol, his potential was insane
@@erthsda6758Mahito was beaten by 2 grade 1 sorcerers. Dagon is stronger. He nearly killed 2 grade 1 and 2 grade 2 sorcerers.
0:37
imagine clowning on someone for losing to a move that is the definition of "I have plot armor, say goodnight"
Bro out here just giving us massacres as fights, oh lord
Btw: yo six i wonder if you know how rusty and weaker toji was when fighting Gojo
It would've been gojover a lot earlier.
Gojo is not a good match up against anyone who isn't sukuna to a point where he would literally toy everybody else
Honestly no matter how much you think it sucks, it's special in its own way and is awesome
Just realized Sukuna's domain doesn't ignore Toji. Even though he doesn't have curse energy, the dismantle will kill him and the barrier less, 200ft radius is even worse than a barrier one that he can escape.
It's not about the barrier. It's about sukuna's domain rules. He can target EVERYTHING including objects with no ce like toji
You can argue that toji is surly fast enough to get out of the barrier before it works
It just attacks indiscriminantly, and destroys everything. Toji probably is still fast enough to escape and live but it would kill him if he wasn't
Toji and Maki are known to have EXTREME resistance to cursed energy attacks, Sukuna's domain would leave him some scares at the very least probably.
@@VK-x22 Resistance isn't immunity, for a top tier sorcerer like Sukuna and Gojo will definitely kill them due to their high CE output. Plus if their resistance is that great, Toji should've tanked hollow purple instead of dying in it.
@@morthread017 Hollow Purple straight up erase matter and even Sukuna has a hard time tanking it so bad argument + Toji took a full power red from awakened Gojo and took nearly no damages, prooving my point.
brother keep spitting facts, also what do you think will toji's domain expansion be?
1:44 hanami is a girl not a guy
💀💀💀
Does it matter if it's a curse
@@LiterallyMahoraga real
i love how drawing hands has a infamous reputation in the art community. meanwhile the guy who drew mahito's domain expansion just flexes his abilities towards that statement.
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I've said this before if you out scale mahito you can literally beat mahito to a pulp and force him to use up all his curse energy which is where his healing comes from so without cursed energy he can't heal
Mahitos healing isnt his technique. Its just a special property of the way he is as a curse. So unless a character can be aware of the shape of their own soul, they cant beat mahito.
@@Blackmustache870 no fan it's his ct he's able to shape and manipulate his soul which is his body
@@tyrant1081 beating him to a pulp is pointless, he doesn't even bleed if you don't strike his soul (that's why Nanami realized that Yuji damaged him, because in their first fight Mahito was unscathed no matter how many times he hit him).
@@Kal911 he uses his ct to heal which means if he had no cursed energy he can't heal his soul or body
@@tyrant1081 he doesn’t need to heal a thing if he gets attacked by people not harming his soul, the damage he takes is zero.
Mahito: no matter how much you attack me, you cant attack my soul
Toji: My honest soul-splitting katana reaction:
0:21 Yeah I've seen so much Mahito downplaying in favor of Jogo it made me hate Jogo.
Hating jogo because of ppl downplaying a different character makes zero sense lmao
I don't know what you're talking about Jogoat is the strongest in the verse bar none
At 4:10
Its funny because kenjakus theorie of the soul also perfectly applies to toji, otherwise he wouldn't have had his conscousness, when his body was revived by that old lady.
For me its a simple one, Toji is superior in every way aside from cursed technique. Does Mahitos technique work, if yes Toji cant protect himself with cursed energy like Nanami did. That would be the only way that Mahito could get a win in, IF he gets to use it. Otherwise Toji wins straight up.
Mahito wouldn't touch toji at all Todo and yuji are able to dodge mahito and toji is much much faster and got precog literally naoya who is much faster than mahito wasn't able to land a single hit on maki while in the air
@@number1927 Like i said it's an -> IF
@@KaeldoIt's not impossible, just very unlikely due to the pure speed that Toji has. Saying that, Mahito can warp things to lure Toji into the palm of his hand so ig we'll never know
This is interesting because Toji is all big stats with no special powers (disconsidering his weapons). And Mahito is one of the characters with the most op hax in the manga.
Toji = on top
Mahito: hehe I’m gonna transfigure you
*touched Toji*
Toji’s soul; nuh uh
"Stand Proud Mahito, You are Strong" - Toji Fushiguro
I feel like Mahito is about to get bullied by youtube today a lot lol
First, regarding the Culling Game Incarnated Sorcerers, I think that they can harm Mahito due to taking over another's body and having their souls in conflict, but they also would lose if Mahito got his hands on them a couple of times (like what was stated with Todo), as they do not have the ability to intentionally attack/defend the soul, only doing so as a subconscious thing from the possession. They are not Sukuna and able to stop intrusions into their soul and attack back. And about Toji winning, I think that it fully depends on if he has the Soul Splitting Blade with him. Being able to see the soul means nothing if you cannot hit it, the Heavenly Restriction does not give the ability to hit/damage souls, only to perceive them, so without it, the battle is just one of attrition that Mahito would win due to not taking any meaningful damage and wearing Toji out.
The fact that he can use the soul splitter at all is proof. Seeing the soul is what allows one to hit it, read the mahito vs itadori fight again, the reason he can damage mahitos soul is because he can see the contours of it. Toji blitzes him (this isnt debateable) and tears his head off split soul or not.
@@amara7734 that is true for most, but they have cursed energy to facilitate that, and Maki/Toji with any other weapon do not show capabilites to harm the soul.
@@thecount1510 what do you mean "cursed energy to facilitate that", if you mean he cant excorcise mahito without a cursed tool then duh of course he cant, you cant toji couldnt exorcise even a finger bearer without a cursed tool, what i mean is he could kill him with slaughter demon or nobaras hammer, or whatever grade 4 cursed tools exist. The fact that he can see it us why yuji can harm it (this is basically verbatim stated), give toji a cursed tool and same goes for him, soul splitter is just nicer because its duraneg but its overkill for that roach mahito
Great content bro
Who tf downplays Toji😂
bro gets constantly glazed 💀
@poopee4702 i literally only see people saying Toji gets glazed with barely anybody glazing him. So many people were saying Jogo>Toji while also saying toji gets constantly glazed like where is the glazing
@@somalollthe jogo thing is just pitty because the guy went against the 2 worst matchups. But lets be fair toji is another horrible match up against jogo. Unlike sukuna and gojo he wouldn't play with him
toji the type to shake mahitos hand look him in the eye and smile as mahitos shocked and quickly cut his head off
the only thing i can bring up that i feel you ignored is the fact that mahito could heal mechamaru's Heavenly restriction and give him a working body. think that could be useful against toji
mechamaru's Heavenly restriction is entirely different from the one maki and toji have
Toji - "I dont work for Free" *Blitz tf out*
Being strong is not really a counter to Mahito's technique, it just means he cannot kill you in a tap or 1 attempt.
Nanami was still harmed by Mahito's technique, Nanami just was not completely transfigured because he instinctively protected his soul with curse energy.
Edit-> Honestly, Mahito obviously got stronger from his true form going off how easily he was throwing Yuji around.
Toji's body still counter's his technique. He beats souls and can live without one
@@Optclzr "He beats souls and can live without one"
Toji's body beat a weak soul. He lived because of a technique.
If Mahito transfigured his soul its gg. A puppet is immune
Could you do mahito vs hakari? I always thought the dialogue between them would be funny.
Are there actually people who believe toji wont no diff the disaster curses? Look what he did to dagon he negative diffed him literally negative effort.
R there actually people who think dagon is on the same lvl as jogo and mahito? Toji beating him doesnt mean he no diffs the disaster curses
@@Blackmustache870jogo might give a small challenge to toji but the rest are getting humiliated
@@Blackmustache870 Toji fought dagon with playful cloud, he would be stronger with the inverted spear of heaven, chain of a thousand miles and the split soul katana
@@exzeltgaming give him ivh and he no diffs 1v1, but all at once, that's not happening in no diff.
@@Blackmustache870 What about if he gets the other 2 weapons with his cursed spirit as well?
Making my 2 favorite characters fight. It always hurts but I know who wins
Woah you didn't have to throw strays at the end there
people dont realise that if toji had known about hollow purple, he probably wouldve won against awakened gojo seeing as he was doing just fine against everything else and gojo was probably at a somewhat weakened state
No. That Gojo is just a less experienced current Gojo, Toji stands no chance
@masterjj1 toji lost because of his mindset.
I walked in "don't wanna hear it, Mahito W, end of this episode" I left "damn Toji just wiped the floor with him before the opening credits even hit."
One thing I want to point out is that you misinterpreted Kenny’s belief of the soul. He said that it’s techinique dependent otherwise getos soul wouldn’t have been able to rebel
Mahito is crazy strong. And his innate skill is an on-contact, one-hit if you don't know how to deal with it. But Toji is a hard counter to him.
Even if Toji's Heavenly Restriction didn't make him completely immune to Idle Transfiguration... I seriously doubt that Mahito could actually touch him to make use of it. Considering how brutally he beat Gojo, Geto and Dagon.
If we took away Tojis cursed tools, eventually Mahito would win by default due to no damage happening to Mahito, he'd eventually become strong enough and smart enough to win that fight, Mahito is rapidly developing at a rate that he couldve ended up at Gojo and Sukuna levels of strength.
But unfortunately Toji has those cursed tools and his strength and speed out match what we saw from mahito
Bro could you make a vid on toji vs kenny? You're vids are truly great
I didn't watch the whole video, so this may have been stated, but personally I think that idle transfiguration wouldn't affect Toji.
I think the reason for that is because while typically the soul dictates the shape of the body, I think that in the case of Toji as a result of his heavenly restriction his body dictates the shape of his soul (if that makes sense). The reason for that is that because Ogami's curse technique just temporarily alters the body and she said that typically that wouldn't have an effect on the soul, that the soul shouldn't lose to the body (or have its form / nature dictated by the body). But obviously Toji's body converted her grandson's soul into his soul. I think his body shapes his soul to be the shape it is, so if you give someone else his body their soul will become shaped like his as if it were a reversed idle transfiguration. Mahito can only edit the shape of the soul and that changes the body, but in much the same way Mahito uses his cursed technique to maintain the shape of his soul to prevent physical damage I imagine Toji's body would automatically maintain the shape of his soul to fit the shape of his body. The only difference between the two being that obviously anyone (in theory) can damage Toji's body and not anyone can damage the soul. Toji just so happens to have cursed tools that would work against Mahito though so honestly I think he kind of no-diffs.
That's just hypothetical though, if idle transfiguration works on Toji I'm not sure how it'd go.
ridiculous headcannon
My favorite villain vs my hated villain... This will be interesting
“I can warp your soul by simply touching you”
“I have no soul.”
12:16 Mahito domain has high chance to work because the barrier doesn't recognize curse energy but soul directly. That's how Sukuna soul was touched inside even though Mahito hadn't attacked it, so Mahito domain expansion is the only thing that could affect Toji. Especially if he uses it like Gojo did in shibuya.
That is a very good thought ! But remember that domains work as a "sure hit" so mahito's domain does indeed recegnize the souls but if it didn't sense the presence it wouldn't sure hit his soul
I know i suck at explaning but imagine if you brought a stone to the barrier. The domain wouldn't change it's soul because it can't detect it's presence
@@HornyDenjithe thing with the sure hit effect is that it's the result of the domain targeting one's cursed energy, however Mahito's domain makes direct contact with the soul. Allowing him to immediately transfigure you.
@@Abyzz_Knight oh yeah you're right
But like, can't he just stay out of the domain?
Like maki did to naoya
@@HornyDenji yes i remember but they explained that sure hit works because the domain localize the curse energy inside and attack based on that. Maki was considered as an object because she doesn't have curse energy. But Mahito domain sure hit works because the domain detects the souls inside. Mahito's domain with someone like Maki and Toji would be like Sukuna domain, a domain without barrier, because they can't trap them and but sure hit will get them regardless.
@@HornyDenji yes she could stay out but that's why i brought up the way Gojo used his domain in shibuya, if activites for 0.02 secondes, Toji would be hit immediatly and unlike Todo he wouldn't have anything to protect him.
Yo to know that gege took inspiration from world trigger for mahitos final form is amazing
Music used across the entire video?
Been waiting for this one
Wait Mahito’s cursed technique doesn’t technically work on Toji because Toji knows what his soul is.
I say this because during Shibuya when the Grandpa person revived Toji with out his Soul Toji got his Soul back and gained control of his body again, which then means he’s self conscious about his soul meaning he could potentially block it.
But now that I think about it he doesn’t have Cursed Energy so even if he is self aware of his soul he can’t really block it from Mahito.
3:19 and Mahito is then proven wrong twice. Once when Geto's body reacts to Gojo and second time when Toji's body overpowers the guy's soul.
12:13 This one doesn't always apply. We've seen Sukuna was able to target inanimate objects in his domain then he fought Mahoraga. So, imo, that might come to the skill of the user.
The geto thing isn't true. Gege described that as being like when a cockroach Dies, it can still move around for a while out of muscle memory, Geto was dead, but he still had slight control of the body due to muscle memory.
1:23 what is the name of the song playing here?
My 2 favorite jjk characters fighting eachother 😂
(Posted this comment before watching the video)
4:24 - Kenjaku hints that certain techniques can have their own workings. We see Toji's body overtaking someone's soul, so it is more than likely that Kenjaku's explanation that both are one and the same IS the truth, but for Mahito specifically his soul takes precedence.
ah so that blade is basically the perfect compliment for the mystic eyes of death perception.