From the Swedish documentary The Swedish Theory of Love by Erik Gandini, where 90-year-old Polish sociologist Zygmunt Bauman explains individualism in our society.
In the movie "Into the Wild", its about a man searching for the meaning of life, going into the wilderness, and died a lone in an old buss in the middle of nowhere, in one of the notes found in the buss he wrote, "happiness only real when it shared". Gin,
Very true . Modern ideologies failed to bring happiness to ppl . They preach individuality and independence which they serve only the benefit of the market .
that is ridicolus, the ideologies do not do that nowdays, your banal comment is a testimony of that, you do not came from a different time, you live in our time, and according to him you shouldn't even exist
Also i will say for control. Sweden in this case is an Orwellian controlled society. They use the lie with "individualism" because thats the easiest way to control people. Yet what i dont understand how the Swedish people fall for it so badly.
Happiness is "triumph" state. Triumph state comes after winning a battle. Winning a battle comes after a battle. No battle then no winning, no winning then no triumph, no triumph means no happiness. That battle is the struggle, the overcoming a problem, taking responsibility, making sacrifice. Gin,
regardless of how alone we are or I am sometimes I still seek to get to know people . Without interactions we will never know each other . Hey people is anyone there ? 😁
people created places they call home where they can feel alone and disconnected while searching for others to connect. but we already learned that we all need to have our own appartements, being mature and independent, that means, being alone searching to connect
"Mutluluğun belâdan azade bir hayat anlamına geldiği doğru değil. Mutlu hayat belâlarla başa çıkmak anlamına gelir, belâlarla çarpışmaktır, zorlukları çözmektir. Zorluklarla yüzleşirsiniz, elinizden geleni yaparsınız, kendinizi zorlarsınız ve sonra, kaderin zorluklarını denetlemiş olduğunuzu gördüğünüz zaman, mutluluk anına varırsınız. İşte budur, tam da bu zorluklarla başa çıkmanın neşesidir, belâyla çarpışmanın, onlarla yüz yüze gelme ve başa çıkmanın neşesidir. Rahatlık (komfor) arttığı zaman kaybedilen şey, işte budur." baslangicta gecen kisim.
I can understand and agree to some aspects of what he says, but I'm not sure that happiness by achieving something has to get lost when ”comfort grows” (1:31). It's just that the challenges consists of other things, such as educating yourself and trying new things. Also, I think that all of us living in families with small children know that every day is a huge challenge no mater the level of comfort we have in the society we live in. :)
staraffinity your perspective is utopian but in reality,eg. People who always get good marks are not happy enough when they get good marks.things get monotonous
i live in this time and i see constantly people thriving to achive more even if they live confort lives, this video, by his ouwn standard, shouldn't even exist...
@@1984magu Because of ideology or because of him being promoted? Guy's escaped justice for his crimes against humanity he's committed as a NKVD officer, enforcing mass murder of anti-soviet Poles after ww2. He has powerful friends of international reach, who set him up as an 'academic' and as a wealthy British resident. Also, he was exposed as a plagiarist in Poland. Same story as with Helena Wolińska.
True words. The online networks become more and more the social reality and replace real communication between human beings made out of flesh and blood. If loneliness will produce a paradigm shift in thinking, to go back to communicate with people next door, I am very interested in to see.
You can do both its possible to combine the best of both I do it all the time, I've connected with strangers with things in common online and I've gone and met them irl and I also use online activism to connect with others and causes irl as well!
Women are being more independent because often when in a relationship more responsibilities still fall on a woman even if she is also working. As such, women feel they can live a better life alone than with a man. There are still many relationships I personally know that are like this, where the man still wants to be served even though the woman works equally hard. Until men and women are completely equal in the eyes of all men and women, women will continually seek to not be in a relationship. At the end of the day, men and women do not need each other, they want each other, but if that want does not override the want to feel equally valued, then relationships between men and women will become fewer and for shorter times. I still know men that think it is a women's job to pack their lunch. Why would any woman be in a relationship that erodes their time in an unfair manner? I've been single for a long time. I am very happy. I have hobbies. I don't yet want a partner, and I don't feel I need friends, although will not refuse them. To be content in isolation is also beautiful. It is liberating.
This is bogus it's possible to be both independent and interdependent, this guy is so last century, I think the Swedish system has a lot to offer especially to women!
Only 66% of Swedish citizens are actual true ethnic Swedes. I don't consider this a win. The Native Americans put up a fight, but if they do, then it's deemed "racist". By 2050, it's projected that they will be only 49% of the population within their native homeland. And 25% of the inhabitants will be non-western once the ethnic Swedes are only 63% of the Swedish population. One can only imagine what the non-western percentage of the population will be once ethnic Swedes are only 49% of the total population in 2050.
Hi... I am David from Mexico. I recently got to know about this documentary and I wonder if you know about a website where I can see the complete version.
No consigo encontrarlo en español ni en inglés con subtítulos en ningún sitio, ni en internet ni en amazon para poder comprarlo. Si lo encuentras, dime dónde, por favor. Gracias.
CROAV Thanks so much, I was finally able to watch it. It is really interesting we all are interconnected but at the same time we have to deal with our loneliness.. well I think so.
Moatcmol básicamente (para mí) entrega una invitación a replantearse conceptos como "logro", "éxito", "felicidad" y la imposibilidad de conocerlos y vivirlos sin interacción (siendo seres sociales). También me sirvió para conocer a Zigmund. 👍😊
In the movie "Into the Wild", its about a man searching for the meaning of life, going into the wilderness, and died a lone in an old buss in the middle of nowhere, in one of the notes found in the buss he wrote, "happiness only real when it shared".
Gin,
Rip Christopher mccandless. Great movie based on a true story.
Very true . Modern ideologies failed to bring happiness to ppl . They preach individuality and independence which they serve only the benefit of the market .
and satan
that is ridicolus, the ideologies do not do that nowdays, your banal comment is a testimony of that, you do not came from a different time, you live in our time, and according to him you shouldn't even exist
It's not banal,you just don't live in reality to realise it
Also i will say for control. Sweden in this case is an Orwellian controlled society. They use the lie with "individualism" because thats the easiest way to control people. Yet what i dont understand how the Swedish people fall for it so badly.
Independence doesn't need to come at the cost of happiness. Moderation.
Absolutely, we should live in society, i wonder how living in a good, helpful and welcoming society will feel like???
Highly recommend watching Teal Swan's video 'How has it come to this? (The Societal Collapse into Independence)'.
Happiness is "triumph" state.
Triumph state comes after winning a battle.
Winning a battle comes after a battle.
No battle then no winning, no winning then no triumph, no triumph means no happiness.
That battle is the struggle, the overcoming a problem, taking responsibility, making sacrifice.
Gin,
Perfect
regardless of how alone we are or I am sometimes I still seek to get to know people . Without interactions we will never know each other . Hey people is anyone there ? 😁
people created places they call home where they can feel alone and disconnected while searching for others to connect. but we already learned that we all need to have our own appartements, being mature and independent, that means, being alone searching to connect
"Mutluluğun belâdan azade bir hayat anlamına geldiği doğru değil. Mutlu hayat belâlarla başa çıkmak anlamına gelir, belâlarla çarpışmaktır, zorlukları çözmektir. Zorluklarla yüzleşirsiniz, elinizden geleni yaparsınız, kendinizi zorlarsınız ve sonra, kaderin zorluklarını denetlemiş olduğunuzu gördüğünüz zaman, mutluluk anına varırsınız. İşte budur, tam da bu zorluklarla başa çıkmanın neşesidir, belâyla çarpışmanın, onlarla yüz yüze gelme ve başa çıkmanın neşesidir. Rahatlık (komfor) arttığı zaman kaybedilen şey, işte budur."
baslangicta gecen kisim.
RIP
I can understand and agree to some aspects of what he says, but I'm not sure that happiness by achieving something has to get lost when ”comfort grows” (1:31). It's just that the challenges consists of other things, such as educating yourself and trying new things. Also, I think that all of us living in families with small children know that every day is a huge challenge no mater the level of comfort we have in the society we live in. :)
staraffinity your perspective is utopian but in reality,eg. People who always get good marks are not happy enough when they get good marks.things get monotonous
he is just wrong, but he is idolized by the western cultural elites bicause is perfect for they ideology
i live in this time and i see constantly people thriving to achive more even if they live confort lives, this video, by his ouwn standard, shouldn't even exist...
@@1984magu Because of ideology or because of him being promoted?
Guy's escaped justice for his crimes against humanity he's committed as a NKVD officer, enforcing mass murder of anti-soviet Poles after ww2.
He has powerful friends of international reach, who set him up as an 'academic' and as a wealthy British resident.
Also, he was exposed as a plagiarist in Poland.
Same story as with Helena Wolińska.
@@buoazej everything you say have nothing to do whit the topic or what i say
True words. The online networks become more and more the social reality and replace real communication between human beings made out of flesh and blood. If loneliness will produce a paradigm shift in thinking, to go back to communicate with people next door, I am very interested in to see.
You can do both its possible to combine the best of both I do it all the time, I've connected with strangers with things in common online and I've gone and met them irl and I also use online activism to connect with others and causes irl as well!
Ah we ave a soft person with an accent. How can we sabotage this?
Background sounds!!!!!
It is a mystery to me that narration is always obliterated by needless background music.
Yes, but we are not bored any more -- we have UA-cam!
One would imagine that such a state is born out of our seperation from fascist ideologies, where death, violence and war are not seen as negatives.
No está subtitulado al español?
Women are being more independent because often when in a relationship more responsibilities still fall on a woman even if she is also working. As such, women feel they can live a better life alone than with a man. There are still many relationships I personally know that are like this, where the man still wants to be served even though the woman works equally hard. Until men and women are completely equal in the eyes of all men and women, women will continually seek to not be in a relationship. At the end of the day, men and women do not need each other, they want each other, but if that want does not override the want to feel equally valued, then relationships between men and women will become fewer and for shorter times. I still know men that think it is a women's job to pack their lunch. Why would any woman be in a relationship that erodes their time in an unfair manner? I've been single for a long time. I am very happy. I have hobbies. I don't yet want a partner, and I don't feel I need friends, although will not refuse them. To be content in isolation is also beautiful. It is liberating.
That’s exactly what a Swedes will say 😂 congratulations! The Marxist agenda has been uploaded to your brain successfully 😂😂
This is bogus it's possible to be both independent and interdependent, this guy is so last century, I think the Swedish system has a lot to offer especially to women!
I guess is also "so last century" the correct use of punctuation.
Four year later. History teachs you were wrong.
Only 66% of Swedish citizens are actual true ethnic Swedes. I don't consider this a win. The Native Americans put up a fight, but if they do, then it's deemed "racist". By 2050, it's projected that they will be only 49% of the population within their native homeland.
And 25% of the inhabitants will be non-western once the ethnic Swedes are only 63% of the Swedish population. One can only imagine what the non-western percentage of the population will be once ethnic Swedes are only 49% of the total population in 2050.
RIP.
How do I find the Music in the background??!
he did not have to drag me like that on that last bit about independent people but okay...
Read about his military past , he fought the indepedence underground in post-war Poland
Hi... I am David from Mexico. I recently got to know about this documentary and I wonder if you know about a website where I can see the complete version.
Thanks for the answer, it seems to be very interesting, hopefully with time I will get it.
No consigo encontrarlo en español ni en inglés con subtítulos en ningún sitio, ni en internet ni en amazon para poder comprarlo. Si lo encuentras, dime dónde, por favor. Gracias.
Thanks a lot!!
CROAV Thanks so much, I was finally able to watch it. It is really interesting we all are interconnected but at the same time we have to deal with our loneliness.. well I think so.
Moatcmol básicamente (para mí) entrega una invitación a replantearse conceptos como "logro", "éxito", "felicidad" y la imposibilidad de conocerlos y vivirlos sin interacción (siendo seres sociales). También me sirvió para conocer a Zigmund. 👍😊
So true. Thatswhy God has not given us undisputed independence. Or 100% Freedom.