Building a Board on Board Cedar Fence - Part 2

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  • Опубліковано 13 сер 2016
  • If you missed Part 1, here is a link: • Building a Board on Bo...
    Looking for Part 3? Here ya go: • Building a Horizontal ...
    Questions about this build? Cost? Tips and tricks? Read the written tutorial at:
    - Part 1: www.wilkerdos.com/2016/08/boa...
    - Part 2 : www.wilkerdos.com/2016/08/pic...
    - Part 3 : www.wilkerdos.com/2016/08/fin...
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    If you happen to be in the Fort Worth/Dallas area, here are the local suppliers I went to for this project:
    Fencing material: Binford Supply - goo.gl/BGlfO2
    Steel post material: Discount Steel - goo.gl/fHABDR
    Lag bolts: Fort Worth Bolt and Tool - goo.gl/YSfv2G
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    50' Air Hose: goo.gl/0Go2Y0
    Canopy: goo.gl/iFbJme
    Level: goo.gl/GmGxdp
    In this video I continue with installing my cedar board on board fence. Last video I extended each steel post by welding on an extension, then demoing the old fence, and installing the stringers. This week I start by adding a cedar top cap then install board on board pickets on all three sides. I end the video by adding trim to the outside of the fence to give it a clean finished look. Stay tuned for part three where I build cedar boxes to hide the steel posts, add trim to pretty the boxes up, as well as build a gate for the fence.
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  • @muddyfences5559
    @muddyfences5559 7 років тому +38

    That is a magnificent fence April. In a world of vinyl, I love seeing a nice wood fence.

  • @ccopes75
    @ccopes75 7 років тому +8

    I used to install fences in my younger days and we prided ourselves on clean straight lines. This fence has some clean straight lines!! I thought at first you were going with a shadow box but this is way better. Looks great and provides total privacy. Plus your home equity just went up! Congrats! I look forward to next weeks video.

  • @ericcorse
    @ericcorse 7 років тому +9

    Beautiful and thoughtful job, I really like the stain color on the fence.

  • @timstanley1948
    @timstanley1948 7 років тому +2

    I am retired and wanted to start woodworking again. There is so much to learn and I started watching these videos which are very informative. In your videos you explain the why of things and that has made it a great learning experience. Thank you so much.

  • @donnymcarter
    @donnymcarter 7 років тому +10

    Nice move on the spacer with handle! Fence looks great!

  • @carlaradke4066
    @carlaradke4066 7 років тому +4

    April -- you are amazing. I started following you when you were very first starting out learning about power tools and look at you now!! I love this fence design.

  • @tomkendrickii
    @tomkendrickii 7 років тому +38

    Looks incredible. Loved the idea with the handle on the spacer. Such a small detail makes a huge difference

    • @noenoe5676
      @noenoe5676 3 роки тому

      Oh my god I love this work!!!

  • @ConstructIcon
    @ConstructIcon 7 років тому

    You are a real trooper with this project! I probably would have gruelingly painted the old fence & called it done. Much respect!!

  • @markmorlino
    @markmorlino 7 років тому +194

    I've found that flipping the spacer over between each picket (switch the top and bottom) will prevent a slight error in the spacer from accumulating as you progress. This way, if the sides of your spacer are not perfectly parallel, the error corrects itself with each board instead of adding up and leading to noticeably unplumb condition that requires you to "cheat" one of the pickets every so often. That is a very nice fence.

    • @tbirdracefan
      @tbirdracefan 6 років тому +3

      good idea!

    • @lewisjohn9782
      @lewisjohn9782 6 років тому +1

      mark morlinog

    • @mranderson4194
      @mranderson4194 5 років тому +8

      Why wouldn't she use a spacer with parallel dimensions on both ends ? The fact that they're going out of plumb is from the milling of the boards. Have you ever seen a 2x6 with 5.25 on one end and 5.5 on the other ? Happens all the time. Even with trim. Im sure majority of them are 5 1/2 but things just aren't that prefect in the real world to have every one be the exact same. I'm sure some were even 5 5/8 and 5 3/4 Has absolutely nothing to do with the spacer. Lumber shrinks and expands and they get shifted around in the milling process. I'm sure she knows how to rip a board down.

    • @Arsopu
      @Arsopu 5 років тому +1

      Shawn Anderson nobody notices the first shoot anyway.
      The lap will hide it haha.

    • @Arsopu
      @Arsopu 5 років тому +2

      I'm doing one right now, I just guesstimate.
      Close enough is good enough.
      Be dynamic, it's easier.

  • @rsawyer05
    @rsawyer05 7 років тому +17

    Great job April. I love the design of the fence.

  • @TedAlexander24
    @TedAlexander24 7 років тому

    Really awesome fence April. Total respect for you guys not shying away from the August heat in Texas.

  • @biffjohnson7107
    @biffjohnson7107 4 роки тому

    Wow, April! That fence is BEAUTIFUL! I love the privacy, and I’m hoping to do something similar. Thanks for this great video!

  • @woodrow38930
    @woodrow38930 7 років тому +16

    You do a great job at explaining! Right when I'm wondering something... Pop... goes the answer! 👍👍

  • @andyandnancy
    @andyandnancy 7 років тому +28

    The handle on the spacer board was a brilliant idea!

  • @brianpeterson3081
    @brianpeterson3081 7 років тому +1

    Thanks April. As always, picked up a couple of tips. The top trim board was a nice touch.

  • @chippi09
    @chippi09 7 років тому

    One of the best workmanship I have ever seen. Like it even though it's not done yet.

  • @PreachermanPiper
    @PreachermanPiper 7 років тому +43

    You did a fine job on that fence and it looks really great. How anyone can put a thumbs down on this is beyond me. Just short sighted.

  • @turbocobra
    @turbocobra 7 років тому +29

    So much labor involved in a project like this, well done!

    • @AprilWilkerson
      @AprilWilkerson  7 років тому +6

      Yes you are telling me. I knew this was going to be a huge job but even I underestimated it. I was silly enough to think I could push really hard and get it done in 5 days....psh! haha. I enjoyed it though.

    • @seanmcmills
      @seanmcmills 7 років тому +6

      At 4:07, I can't help but worry for your friend as you use a nail gun pointed at what would be his stomach on the other side of the fence. Please be safe since you are a role model for so many.

    • @wajidm5983
      @wajidm5983 7 років тому +2

      +April Wilkerson your work is so beautiful

    • @fatoupetersen8442
      @fatoupetersen8442 6 років тому

      April Wilker

    • @mizloriloulou321
      @mizloriloulou321 6 років тому

      Ramsey Customs - turbocobra how much did it cost?

  • @YourMomsBoyfriend69
    @YourMomsBoyfriend69 7 років тому +1

    April has the best signoff of any UA-camr. That simple little wave is adorable.

  • @Alexanderbuilds2001
    @Alexanderbuilds2001 5 років тому

    Wow
    I love how she goes straight into tackling large tasks

  • @MarkFradley
    @MarkFradley 6 років тому +6

    I've seen quite a few of your videos, you're good April. Great to see a woman doing all this stuff, and upto an amazing standard. We have a local female electrician and she can wipe the floor with most men, knowledgeable and professional. I'd love to see more women in the construction sector. Well Done.

  • @cjpenning
    @cjpenning 7 років тому +18

    Fences make good neighbors. Nice job!

  • @bigblue8986
    @bigblue8986 4 роки тому

    Please continue doing youtube videos! Your attention to detail is excellent. I been searching for a step by step video on how to build that type of fence and your the only one.Not only you say how to do it you also name the type, size, etc... 👍👍

  • @gregorythomas333
    @gregorythomas333 7 років тому

    It is really coming along nicely.
    Make sure you stay hydrated out there.

  • @JFRobinsonJr
    @JFRobinsonJr 7 років тому +3

    More amazing work. Well done!
    Have you considered running low-voltage wiring on the fence - perhaps hidden under one of the stringers - so you have have lights on the pole caps?

  • @MrTBoneMalone
    @MrTBoneMalone 7 років тому +3

    That's a really nice fence, April. Having steel poles to start with was nice, but going through the extra trouble to weld extensions on the top to make sure they were all the same length really made the difference in appearance. Should be a fence that lasts many years I'd think.

  • @jamiereader
    @jamiereader 7 років тому +1

    That's looking absolutely stunning. Brilliant work!

  • @Jeppe.P.Bjerget
    @Jeppe.P.Bjerget 7 років тому

    What a beautiful fence. And so good to see the quality of the work

  • @NGinuity
    @NGinuity 7 років тому +17

    I made a spacer too out of a ripped down 2x4 for ours, but I screwed the torpedo level to the board so I could just check level at the same time :-)

    • @AprilWilkerson
      @AprilWilkerson  7 років тому

      If the level is attached to the spacer how did you butt the next picket up to it? Or did you include the width of the level in the spacer width?

    • @AprilWilkerson
      @AprilWilkerson  7 років тому +1

      Oh I missed the 2x4 part...so it's deeper than the picket. Very good idea!!

    • @NGinuity
      @NGinuity 7 років тому +3

      A torpedo level is pretty small so it was well within the width of the spacer. I used my big level to vertically level the spacer, then I leveled the torpedo level on the spacer and screwed it down so that the spacer edge was parallel to it. The spacer was a 2x4 that had a proper jointed/ripped set of edges so they were parallel. So, I basically manufactured a level that was the width of the spacer. It worked extremely well and I've loaned it out to a few of my friends now (In fact, one of them has not given it back yet). I sure did say the word "level" a lot there! :-)

    • @NGinuity
      @NGinuity 7 років тому

      Yeah, it was pretty cheap, too. Just a scrap 2x4 and a torpedo level I had laying around. If I built it brand new I would probably be out 3 or 4 dollars.

    • @rnttnzr774
      @rnttnzr774 7 років тому

      NGinuity using a torpedo to level a picket?? laaaame

  • @filmsoundno
    @filmsoundno 7 років тому +5

    Beautiful fence. One note though, when you put in place the top board, you should not put the nail through the top board and the one below. When one board shrinks it will pull and rip open the nail hole on the one below causing it to rot. instead the top board should be nailed directly in to the 'rail' below the back board. Hope this makes sense, English is not my native language.... The point is that every board should be able to shrink and expand freely.

    • @tomcarusone4079
      @tomcarusone4079 5 років тому +1

      Are you referring to when she nails the overlapping picket or the last horizontal trim board??

    • @jimmys.8062
      @jimmys.8062 4 роки тому

      Tom Carusone they mean the overlap vertical pickets

  • @johnmcdonald5274
    @johnmcdonald5274 7 років тому

    Great job! They're the type of jobs that add value to a property. Well done!

  • @TitanIapetus
    @TitanIapetus 3 роки тому +1

    An absolutely gorgeous fence and awesome guide/write up. Thank you!

  • @headlesseyes8485
    @headlesseyes8485 7 років тому +48

    now thats a fence i like tall and zero room for peepers

    • @akbuilder7626
      @akbuilder7626 7 років тому +1

      Headless Eyes I'm watching you. BWUHAHAHAHA
      j/k

    • @headlesseyes8485
      @headlesseyes8485 7 років тому

      lol actually we have issues with dogs able to peek over on both sides ,,,one day they will come over

    • @juarezderrick9647
      @juarezderrick9647 7 років тому

      Headless Eyes can I come over

    • @blalblal2746
      @blalblal2746 7 років тому +1

      Headless Eyes إن. من.مصر.وان.نجار

    • @cristiandiaz2763
      @cristiandiaz2763 7 років тому

      Headless Eyes ccfghhjjjghhgggggghgggggfggffxfg

  • @fillg
    @fillg 7 років тому +4

    The trim board really dressed it up but I'd be afraid it would be a perfect place for every bee in the neighborhood to build a nest and come out and sting me every time I mow the grass or trim along the fence.

    • @doubledarefan
      @doubledarefan 7 років тому +2

      Forget bees, try 8-legged yellowjackets!

  • @lucindajones21
    @lucindajones21 6 років тому +1

    I would love do this in my yard. Great job April!!

  • @leftykelly3944
    @leftykelly3944 7 років тому

    I have a board on board fence project in my future. Thanks for posting this helpful series.

  • @davescott8859
    @davescott8859 7 років тому +15

    Now my fence really looks like shit after seeing this one, dammit April.

  • @stylesoftware
    @stylesoftware 7 років тому +3

    Hi super over engineered female. You're nails are too close to the outside edge of the wood; expansion and contraction will split the wood over time, you want to be about 2cm from the edges.

  • @Kirk9350
    @Kirk9350 7 років тому

    Very BEAUTIFUL fence! Great job April!!

  • @timk1512
    @timk1512 7 років тому +1

    Beautiful fence! I've been trying to decide what time of fence to build myself, I just might use this design! Excellent work and thanks for the video!

  • @anway1953
    @anway1953 7 років тому

    Great looking fence April! Nice to have helpers too!

  • @arklevia2320
    @arklevia2320 5 років тому

    You go girl! I want a fence just like this in my new back yard. Great motivation!

  • @jonathanscott8387
    @jonathanscott8387 7 років тому +1

    Beautiful looking fence. You have some major talent. Keep the videos coming, great inspiration.

  • @joshuadyche
    @joshuadyche 3 роки тому

    Thanks for being so specific. I have been building my entire fence off of your videos. You Rock!

  • @johnhschuster
    @johnhschuster 7 років тому +3

    I always look forward to your videos, please keep on building.

  • @leksey7870
    @leksey7870 7 років тому

    Smooth, beautiful, environmentally friendly fence. I like it. Like!

  • @MarcusThomm
    @MarcusThomm 6 років тому +1

    never heard of this channel until about 3 days ago, i love the videos. keep up the good work

  • @1982900F
    @1982900F 7 років тому +1

    Brilliant idea with the portable shade!

  • @haciendadad
    @haciendadad 7 років тому

    perfect timing! I just put up my posts this weekend and I wanted to build this exact style of fence. Yours looks great!!! I appreciate all the tips, especially the one of buying prestained pickets!.

  • @MavicityHerself
    @MavicityHerself 7 років тому

    Woot! I am so happy I found your channel. I'm planning on building a tiny house by myself and your work is wonderful research!

  • @batbawls
    @batbawls 7 років тому

    The trim really made a difference. Looks great.

  • @Mr.J0lllllll0
    @Mr.J0lllllll0 7 років тому

    By far my favorite fence look, looks awesome

  • @disabledwoodworker
    @disabledwoodworker 7 років тому

    Love this April! The fence looks great so far! You rock (and your hubby does too of course!)

  • @mattjames8683
    @mattjames8683 7 років тому

    Oh my gosh, that fence is gorgeous!! Nice job!!

  • @darrannewman7113
    @darrannewman7113 7 років тому

    Great job April, i realy like the stain on the timber, and the idea of using the SS nails will prove worth the extra in the future. My fence is simular in design i used concrete posts so no boxing over for me, but i placed the cover board on the inside to allow air flow in heavy winds and the fence looks the same both sides, it has worked now for over 10 years,

  • @sumosprojects
    @sumosprojects 7 років тому

    That's fantastic, good work April especially in the hot weather

  • @andysanchez3126
    @andysanchez3126 6 років тому

    Love ur work April, I like the fence u built that was awesome. Keep up the great work April

  • @jimhester2004
    @jimhester2004 7 років тому

    It's looking great! You've obviously put an enormous amount of planning into the project, in design, material and techniques. Plus the on-the-fly ideas like the canopy. Being another light complected person, I understand the need for keeping the sun from cooking you.

    • @AprilWilkerson
      @AprilWilkerson  7 років тому

      Yes, I tried to research and understand how things were done and why before jumping into this one. It's one of those projects where it lasts a long time if done right and with so much money at stake with materials I didn't want it done wrong.

  • @AlizFavz
    @AlizFavz 7 років тому

    Looks symmetrical and clean.
    job very well done

  • @shantigeary4212
    @shantigeary4212 5 років тому +1

    Thank you! I live in south Grand Prairie and was looking for a supplier. This video was really helpful.

  • @americanpatriot2789
    @americanpatriot2789 7 років тому

    That fence looks great! Lucky man to have a tool handy lady like yourself.

  • @Flash6031
    @Flash6031 7 років тому

    great video, I getting ready to redo my fence and this really gave me some great tips. Hope to see the box around the post soon.

  • @greatmoose17
    @greatmoose17 Рік тому

    Live in Maine, drove to Texas and bought 3 bunks of those beautiful cedar pickets. Now I have a Texas board on board fence in Maine. You are an inspiration April!

    • @AprilWilkerson
      @AprilWilkerson  Рік тому

      That is awesome! I'm glad you're enjoying my channel. Thanks for watching.

  • @philjones5266
    @philjones5266 6 років тому

    I really enjoy watching your videos . Great job you are doing out there in Texas keep up with the outstanding work!

  • @chriswhitchurch4720
    @chriswhitchurch4720 7 років тому

    Amazing job as always. I hope great things continue to go your way.

  • @raym9691
    @raym9691 7 років тому

    it was/is very hot in Texas currently, im visiting dfw with my wife, and man its been scorching hot out the rain did help the heat some which was a nice break last night! nice job on the fence and the handel on the spacer board, for repetitive moving!

  • @jamesamonett9302
    @jamesamonett9302 3 роки тому

    This was my inspiration in building my fence. Mine is very similar and I love it. Thank for sharing this.

  • @-Maeola-
    @-Maeola- 4 роки тому +1

    Such a great fence - wish I'd seen this before I had mine done!!!

  • @railway31
    @railway31 7 років тому

    Awesome April that fence is taking shape nicely. I made our garden fence with posts and bamboo screening in between but 3 years on it's looking a little tried. But it has stood up to whatever the British weather could throw at it. I think when it comes to renewing it I might look at something like yours. Always a pleasure to watch your videos. Keep up the good work
    Darren

    • @AprilWilkerson
      @AprilWilkerson  7 років тому

      Thanks Darren. It's a lot of work but it will last a long time and look mighty pretty in the mean time. ; )

  • @robertbragg9364
    @robertbragg9364 3 роки тому

    I've been looking for something different, something nice for my fence I'm putting around my yard. I'm definitely stealing this! Thank you, it looks great and you and your neighbors did a great job.

  • @KyleMerl
    @KyleMerl 7 років тому

    Looks great! If there's one thing I've learned in home improvement, it's to not cheap out on screws and nails! High quality fasteners definitely make a difference.

  • @stonewallcraftworks3823
    @stonewallcraftworks3823 7 років тому

    That's a gorgeous fence. The Texas heat is real. I've been fighting the heat/rain/beard frizzing humidity for weeks now.

  • @SteveP-vm1uc
    @SteveP-vm1uc 7 років тому

    Beautiful job!!! I LOVE that the previous owner poured a concrete footer under the fence. I am handicapped and cannot use a string trimmer for more than a minute or so. I have always wished I had a footer under all of our fencing. I recently did have one poured for a gateway to go between the back corner of my shop and the back fence. This winter I hope to build the gate. UNLESS you want to volunteer to come out and do it for me!!!!! ;)

  • @mickeyblue2647
    @mickeyblue2647 3 роки тому +1

    What a beautiful job amazed and it looks so sturdy ,this is diffenilly the kind of fence I would put around my home thank you for this informative video.

  • @gabrielclymer5340
    @gabrielclymer5340 3 місяці тому

    The prestained word was a great idea and a beautiful color choice.

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall 8 місяців тому

    You’re amazing! Hope all is well. Beautiful design.

  • @ksingleton101
    @ksingleton101 7 років тому

    Make sure you check with your city code when putting up fences. I lived in a city that had a limit on height and the board spacing was no less than the width of the board. Also if you are on a corner lot both front and side (street side) are front yards and could not have privacy fences like shown in this video. Always check with your building codes before spending time and money. Great job and excellent instructional video. Thank You for sharing!

  • @DesertBumWoodWorkn
    @DesertBumWoodWorkn 7 років тому

    Thats a nice fence look, board on board. great job!
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @CrankyPantss
    @CrankyPantss 7 років тому

    That's one beautiful fence. We've got a stretch of cooler weather this week. I hope that helps you out a bit. I really enjoy the narrative aspect of your videos as in why you did something the way you did vs another way. Oh, and that spacer picket with the handle on it: so clever! Thanks for sharing this with us.

    • @AprilWilkerson
      @AprilWilkerson  7 років тому +1

      Thanks Linda. Yeah wouldn't you know it?? I finished the fence last night at 9pm after a 13 hour day of working in the heat and NOW it's suppose to cool off. Haha. Oh well, at least it's cool for whatever my next project is. ; )

  • @nooknerdz
    @nooknerdz 7 років тому

    That is one beautiful fence! Great job...as always!

  • @avysdesigns1640
    @avysdesigns1640 7 років тому

    The fence is coming out awesome! Great work

  • @MattDiresta
    @MattDiresta 7 років тому

    love the progress! its really looking great! awesome job!

  • @TheShavingWoodWorkshop
    @TheShavingWoodWorkshop 7 років тому

    The fence looks awesome April ! I really like the look and the privacy it provides, very nice.

  • @cesarm.gonzalez2663
    @cesarm.gonzalez2663 7 років тому

    awesome!! what can be better than to wake up with breakfast in bed and a notification from a new video from April!!!
    life's good....

  • @grahamalexander7230
    @grahamalexander7230 7 років тому +3

    Looks realy nice April, great build.. In the uk we would go with copper nails as opposed to stainless steel as there is some staining from stainless. Your getting some serious equipment these days ....

  • @erisi6204
    @erisi6204 5 років тому

    This fence looks awesome; great job!

  • @stevenkofoed1698
    @stevenkofoed1698 7 років тому +1

    That's a beautiful fence! You are doing a fine job. Stay cool and be mindful of the sun, heat stroke is no fun. Love the videos!

    • @doogle-gf3fi
      @doogle-gf3fi 7 років тому

      V nice work! Results worth the $$. Nice neighbors: priceless! From my experience in AZ: take extra care-heat exhaustion is a stage before heat stroke. Partial list: dizzy, headache, fuzzy thinking, not sweating as much, strange new desire to hear disco tunes etc. Hydrate like crazy before, during & after; no caffeine, alcohol, sugary sodas. Looking fwd to your fence wrapup vid(s).👍

  • @harryseymour6886
    @harryseymour6886 7 років тому

    Great job April your fence looks awesome

  • @martinberry574
    @martinberry574 7 років тому

    Very nice job April, it's looking great.

  • @VansWorld
    @VansWorld 5 років тому +1

    Great video. Thanks for the links in the video description 👍😁

  • @irun4fundotca
    @irun4fundotca 7 років тому

    looks great ,nice job , perfect stain color too

  • @leewmart
    @leewmart 7 років тому +1

    looks professional, great job on the fence.

  • @wml4928790
    @wml4928790 6 років тому

    Wow. That is a very nice fence! Great job!

  • @benjaminusi8981
    @benjaminusi8981 Рік тому

    I love that you used galvanized fence post! I was actually planning on changing my fence out with the same post. I've never seen them rot!

  • @Strangernightg
    @Strangernightg 3 роки тому +1

    This might be a 3-year video that you made, April but I can tell you that you did a beautiful job on that fence. 10 thumbs up for you.

  • @radiantcosmetics
    @radiantcosmetics 7 років тому

    I'm drooling over your fence - it's seriously a work of art, amazing job!!

    • @AprilWilkerson
      @AprilWilkerson  7 років тому +1

      Thank you! I can't wait until I get to release part three of the series, the inside looks pretty too. : )

    • @shokh5485
      @shokh5485 7 років тому

      but I never meets April .. lucky you

  • @Lowcountrydave
    @Lowcountrydave 7 років тому

    Your fence is looking awesome April! 😃

  • @talladegadude4852
    @talladegadude4852 7 років тому +1

    The fence looks amazing!!! Great job!

  • @syedmahmood7469
    @syedmahmood7469 3 роки тому

    WONDERWOMAN !!! I wish I could fix my fence the way you did... great job sis...

  • @vetterfellow
    @vetterfellow 7 років тому

    I liked the handle you put on the spacer board. That's the good thing, "detail". GREAT job April, Cody And the helpful neighbors. My neighbors just want to talk to you for hours.... Keep the project going. TTFN.

    • @AprilWilkerson
      @AprilWilkerson  7 років тому +1

      : ) Haha I love my neighbors. The one you see near the end stops by almost daily and has become almost like family. Most of the time I don't like people helping me out but this project was so huge I was throwing tools at anybody and everybody! haha.