Explaining Dissociative Identity Disorder Without Referencing MPD | DID Basics
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- Опубліковано 28 чер 2024
- Singlets almost never correctly understand dissociative identity disorder based on their knowledge of multiple personality disorder - singlet conceptions of MPD are often very, very wrong. So Silver explains dissociative identity disorder from the ground up without relying on saying "DID is just the new name for MPD."
No pre-conceptions, no misconceptions. We're starting from 0 and getting to 100% understanding.
Skip to 1:46 to get straight to the explanation and skip the intro about singlet's misconceptions of MPD.
Edit: This video focuses primarily on alters, as that's what those without DID have the most trouble grasping! Obviously there's a lot more going on with DID/OSDD than just alters, but this is targeted as "introduction to the idea for singlets" so that's what I went with! :)
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"they might call themselves (silver's system name), or (the rings system's system friends' names)" love it
Hehe :)
Very well explained, Silver. Might just show a few friends this if/when we actually get to talking about it.
wow! this is a really important video. its very necessary to educate singlets about how DID/OSDD is a dissociative disorder with multiple consciousnesses that are their own individual people, rather than simply "multiple personalities" of a single person. thank you again silver x
This makes me feel a lot more comfy with my current process in my diagnosis. Thank you
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that was a great brief, thank you. it can be really frustrating how so many people seem to have such a difficult problem picking up what you're putting down. system solidarity in plurality
I’ve been searching for a video that summarizes DID so I can explain it to other people and your video is the best! Thank you for doing this and have an awesome rest of your day!!!!
Thank you!! I hope it's helpful!!! 💙
This is a really enlightening video!! I've done a lot of research on DID, but I dont like to consider myself knowing a lot about it. I don't have DID, I will never fully understand it -- I want to learn and hear from systems and their experiences. A system actually recommended me your channel, and i really like how you go about explaining these things!!
Thank you!
Awesome video, Silver! I’m super excited to be able to explain DID/OSDD to other singlets in a way that doesn’t reference outdated and stigmatizing definitions :-)
You are so well spoken! Thank you for this.
Thank you!
Thank you so much for this! It will be extremely helpful in trying to explain myself to others
Thank you for making videos like this. It's really helped us go from being an undiscovered system to actually communicating somewhat.
Wow, well done! I don't know how you did it, but you got it all into one short video xD Usually takes me an hour or two to get anyone really beginning to understand it at all. I guess a lot of that is undoing the work that saying "It's the new name for MPD" does - breaking down the misconceptions and stigma... This is a much better way of doing things. Thank you, Silver!
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This is so so so important! And genius. I’m definitely going to be sending people over to this video! (And your channel)
We are a system that also doesn’t want to integrate. We worked really hard to communicate with each other and be mostly co-conscious. I’m so glad to see yet another system that wants to prove to people that we CAN live a happy life and be ok with having DID!
Thank you and aa! I’m so glad you liked it so much :)
Excellent explanation! Thanks for sharing.
Thank you!
This is great, there was one point when I went "BAM!" You'd hit the nail on the head. Just one tiny criticism, I know you speak quickly and am used to it but maybe you could slow down on the videos we can show our f and f? Thanks.
I'm a singlet and this was super helpful for understanding, thank you
Just last week we made a video about our DID experience and we just want you to know that you aren't alone, and that we support you! It's very brave and can always be a bit scary to talk about DID and this helps us explain to others what we deal with. Thank you for this :)
❤️❤️ Thanks for adding your voice to the community!!
This is always my go to video explaining what it is like for my system, you explain it wonderfully! Thank you!
So brief and elaborate. Love it and thanks.
this was so very helpful, it's my 2nd time watching. it helped me talk to my super supportive aunt and explain to her my experiences, she took it well, thumbs up!
I’m so glad to hear she took it well!!
Excellent explanation. This is what I understand and teach to providers and clients. So proud of the work your doing! Well done!
Thank you so much!!
Exceptional explanation Silver, thank you.
Wow, you did a great job explaining switching and dissociative amnesia with the dog example!
Beautifully, beautifully explained. Thank you very much for educating us.
Thank you 💕
i love your ace ring!!
Thank you!
i just wanted to thank you! i’m awful at explaining my DID so i use this video often to explain to my friends, every time i have its gone VERY well so again thank you!
Thank you!! And I’m so glad it’s helpful!
Again you found a great way to explained a very complicated subject. Great job🤗
Thanks!
Thank you
I feel illegitimate now... My traumas happened well after 6-9 year old... yet,,, I don't think I'm alone. I don't want to be alone.... I would miss my alter terribly. Even though the systems as evolved and some alters aren't there anymore....
I don't know where to look to have conversation about that.
And you’re probably right - it’s possible to have 0 memory of trauma, or knowledge of it - basically, this is the theory, not what happens in practice. Trust your experience and understanding of self first - don’t force yourself to fit the theory - and things will fall into place later down the road 💕❤️
Veeeeeeery well explained my dear :) I wish you all a lovely day :)
Amazing,🙏 thank you so much for this content ❣️
Of course! Thank you! ❤️
I love that someone from your system sent Hollow some blue things!
yeah! We had a blue box that was perfect and we weren’t using :)
@@TheRingsSystem You all seem so genuinely lovely!
Thank you!
You are very articulate ^^
Thank you!
A truly informative channel! I did not feel like I was watching a sideshow switching drama, that is geared more towards getting views, than educating! So refershing to watch, keep it up!
Thank you!
Hey, Silver, what program do you guys use to edit these videos? I haven't been able to find editing software that lets me add text to the video.
We use Shotcut, which is also free! :) it crashes sometimes so the save button is your best friend
Hi Silver, do you have a transcript for this video? I'm writing an email to our mother about having DID and would find it really useful to be able to include some excerpts from this incredibly well-communicated video. No worries if not, I can transcribe manually!
-Erin (chord gang)
Yes! Any video that has CC we have the transcript for somewhere - send us an email (theringssystemosdd@gmail.com) and we'll get it to you :)
Relatable.
Hello Silver and other Rings System members! This video helped my partner understand us better. We are very appreciative. However, we wonder doesn't this explanation need to include attachment theory and not having a secure attachment to your primary caregiver, along with repeated early childhood trauma?
Attachment theory contributing to the development of DID is an up-and-coming theory of how DID is formed, however, not all theories of development include attachment theory specifically. Secondly, this isn't meant to be a "perfectly super accurate description of the formation of DID," and moreso is intended to convey the basic concepts to someone who hasn't encountered DID before :)
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I’m trying to wrap my head around this and I’m wondering how these alters switch.
We just do! There's some lovely studies on brain scans and DID out there, but we don't have any super-specific understanding of the neurology behind it yet. Excited for when more research comes out :)
K thanks :)
I have a question which is just looking for your opinion--not looking for any official diagnosis or anything, since that's not even possible from a comment! But would you think there's some form of OSDD even if there's no amnesiac wall between two aspects that appear to be alters, although both equally view themselves as the host, but one aspect clearly holds all the emotions (called "the heart") while the other tries to be completely logical without any emotions at all (called "the brain")? And not only that, but the heart hates the brain and the brain views the heart with complete disdain, so there is outright conflict between the two aspects. It appears to me that there is clearly some kind of disassociation going on there, but I'm not sure if all the terminology really applies here. If such terminology does apply, I know the system has memories from being around 10 years old, when there was a solid two years of psychological torture and physical bullying. It might be that the system was old enough to form a singlet personality that was then broken into two distinct pieces from the abuse, and because of being older when that happened it doesn't really fall into any typical paradigm. Just curious if you'd ever heard of something like that before.
Hello! That’s really specific. Hmm.
It’s quite possible for OSDD-1b systems to only have two alters, and for us, we have alters who experience very little emotion, and alters who experience a lot of emotion. Alters can have all sorts of relationships with each other, from love to hate to family to neutral to dislike.
Hope that helps :)
@@TheRingsSystem Thanks for the response. Yes, it's quite specific because it is about a specific person. So far, the only diagnosis given that individual has been one of C-PTSD but watching your video made me curious because whether it's actually OSDD-1b or not, there definitely appears to be some kind of dichotomy going on with them.
It might be nice to show some videos to them then! Even if it doesn't help then it can help educate them about other disorders :)
@@TheRingsSystem -- Definitely. Your videos have been informative for me and I would definitely recommend them to nearly all of my friends. Keep up the good work!
I've had this dog thing happening. Someone named me on that and I couldn't explain cause I couldn't remember. But it made me think that there's really something
Brilliant. 🌸✨ May we use your explanation for our UA-cam channel, top? We would like to share these beautiful words with our German-speaking viewers - we make a channel about trauma [reasons, symptoms, disorders...], dissociation, healing ... of course we will link you with video and channel in the video + info box. Lovely greeting from germany 🌿✨
Of course!!! ❤️💜💕💖
The Rings System 🙏🏻✨
Wonderful video
Do you have your own separate instagram/twitter?
For me I call it an identity disorder cause it’s easier to say it than “oh yeah I have a dissociative disorder but I also have other identities” and then I get looked at like I have 2 heads
Singlets. I love it.
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First, I really enjoy your content. It is really valuable to have many systems sharing their experience.
You may already be aware of this but using the term "singlet" is othering and makes your content less accessible to those without dissociative disorders. I hope this kind of feedback is okay.
The use of the word singlet to mean singular person within a body is accurate. It's no less othering than the term "cis" when use it to mean "people who are not trans" and "straight" to mean "people who aren't gay." Singlet is referring to the fact that those with a single identity have a single identity, are not part of the minority group consisting of systems.
To be clear, I'm not othering singlets - I and the rest of the DID community are being othered BY singlets. We are excluded from greater society time and time again, given pathologizing labels against our will by singlets, and treated as if we were subhuman. Naming that experience is something I have the right to do. And from that, naming people who aren't part of my minority community who don't experience that is something we have the right to do. It gives us the power to call people out when they hold beliefs that discriminate against systems specifically, it allows us to band together as a community, and it allows us to label those who have labeled us. If society will push us to the fringes and give us a label to designate who we are, we will return a label to those who are not us so we can rejoin society as simply a different way of being - not a "normal" and an "other,” but a “singlet” or a “system.”
@@TheRingsSystem To be clear Im a system who is looking for content for my allies.
I view "singlet" "singleton" as othering because its reductive to their experience. I feel the same way about the term "normie" when used for neurotypical people.
While these terms may be accurate to a point I dont think they are helpful in reducing stigma because they are more divisive than descriptive. Also, If any term is being used derogatorally it is loses its strict denotative meaning and becomes associated with that derogatory connotation.
Furthermore, individuals can feel othered even when the person doing it doesn't mean to and these feelings are valid.
Thank you for engaging with me. I can tell that you have strong feelings about this topic and I appreciate being able to discuss.
Hello! Sorry I assumed y'all weren't a system at first.
Do you have any other word to describe not being a system other than singlet? I haven't heard of any other, and I fundamentally oppose using "normal" or "non-disordered" for many reasons. (mostly because DID/OSDD is a normal reaction to abnormal circumstances, and calling us abnormal is wrong - and disordered is only partially correct, as systems can heal from trauma/disordered/distressing aspects and continue to live healthily as a system)
Now I want to gently deconstruct your argument:
"I view 'singlet' 'singleton' as othering because its reductive to their experience."
I want to point out that this is also true of the words 'DID' and 'System' and 'alters' - It's a common issue that systems are SO varied, no system is alike, and we have so many diverse experiences it's hard to even begin to explain. There's 1 billion flavors of DID, and each system is different. And as I pointed out before, we're already being othered by having these words used to describe us. They were originally thought up by neurotypical (singlet) psychiatrists, and given to our community to label us as a form "other" that needs to be treated (I don't mean to imply that therapy is bad or we shouldn't be treated, but this is just a natural by-product of the diagnostic and therapudic experience - we're given a psychiatric label that instantly identifies us as "abnormal"). I'll elaborate on this in the next response.
"While these terms may be accurate to a point I don't think they are helpful in reducing stigma because they are more divisive than descriptive."
My point here is that we are ALREADY othered. The system has been set up so that there's a 'normal' and an 'other,' and the 'other' is abonormal. People with DID already have a label that sets them aside from the norm, and there's nothing we can do about this without getting rid of words like "I have DID" and "I am part of a system," which is something we generally don't want to do. UNLESS, we get rid of the concept of a 'normal' which 'other' contrasts with. By the creation of a word like 'singlet' which describes the experience of an individual identity/person within a body, similar to "system" for multiple individuals/people within a body, we can set up a system of "either or" in which there's not a normal.
This concept can be easily explained like this: there's no such thing as a "normal hair color" or "normal eye color." Black hair or blue eyes isn't the default - instead, we have options - you can have blonde hair, brown hair, or black hair; blue eyes, brown eyes, or green eyes! It doesn't make sense to say "I have the normal hair color" because there's not a normal.
Similarly, with the contrast of 'singlet' and 'system,' there's not a normal - you experience the world one of two ways. In this way, we aren't dividing people - we're bringing them back together. This way, everyone is a person with descriptive words for their experience. Instead of a "normal person" and an "abnormal person" (Normal person vs DID system) we get "one way of experience" vs "another way of experience (singlet vs system).
A more potent example of this than hair/eye color would be Trans vs Cis person. It would be wrong to say "Normal person" vs "Trans person," which is why the community came up with "cis" to describe people who's gender aligns with their assigned gender at birth. That way, people are either "cis" or "trans," and neither of those words mean something abnormal. By creating a system where there's options, we kill the idea of a "normal" and instead embrace the diversity within us.
Yes, both of these words are very simplistic and reductive, but so are things like eye color and gender identity - there's a million words to describe what color your eyes actually are (stormy blue, bright emerald green, gray-green, ect) and gender identity goes much much deeper and is very personal to each individual, but the words give you a general idea of what's going on.
I hope that all makes sense.
"If any term is being used derogatorally it is loses its strict denotative meaning and becomes associated with that derogatory connotation.
Furthermore, individuals can feel othered even when the person doing it doesn't mean to and these feelings are valid."
I mean, yes, this is technically all true - but I don't see how this applies to anything in this video. I just rewatched the sections where I use the word, and I mention twice how singlets often have incorrect misconceptions about MPD, and once talk how using MPD to describe DID can give the wrong message to singlets trying to understand DID. It's true to mention that singlets often have misconceptions surrounding MPD - there's been very few initiatives to teach people about DID/MPD, and most media exposure is full of stigma. Without directly experiencing DID, you have to randomly stumble across information to pop the bubble of what society has taught you. (I have yet to meet a singlet who has no misconceptions without doing individual research or knowing systems! And I've been doing in-person activism and awareness around DID for nearly 2 years now)
True allies who make an effort to understand systems will know that when people say things like "most singlets do x" or "many systems have misconceptions surrounding this thing" they're talking about singlets who haven't done work to undo societal sigma against those with DID. They often understand this simply BECAUSE they used to have those misconceptions themselves. I've had many conversations with my lovely girlfriend about this, who's a singlet! She understands that many singlets DON'T understand bc she didn't start out understanding!
Furthermore, while feelings are always intrinsically valid, it doesn't mean we necessarily have to honor them in specific ways. (random example of 'feelings being valid but you shouldn't act on them' that's NOT a comparison: You might be hurt by something your spouse accidentally did, and while that hurt is valid, it doesn't mean you get to take it out on them.)
I think there's two situations to this:
1. Person feels hurt/othered because a system is making statements such as "I hate all singlets regardless" or "Singlets will NEVER be able to do x, no matter how hard they try. no singlet is a good friend." Here, it's valid to feel othered AND valid to take action on it, because someone is expressing a view about people simply based on their mode of experiencing the world as a single individual, regardless of how much effort they've put into undoing societal teachings. (There's still some iffy cases, if the system in question says "I have a hard time interacting with singlets and it puts me on edge" when they have been harmed by singlets specifically surrounding them being a system, and is having trouble interacting due to trauma.)
2. Person feels othered simply by the use of singlet being a word that is used. This one, while feelings are valid, I don't think would count for being valid to take action on. Just as it would be wrong for a cis person to say "Being called cis makes me feel bad, and I feel like we should go back to 'normal person' and 'trans person,'" it would be wrong for a singlet to say "Being called a singlet makes me feel othered, I don't want to be called words that describe me being a single person." Both of these examples are wrong, because the point of discomfort doesn't actually stem from them feeling "othered" or "distanced from the normal" - It implies that they don't need a word because they're "normal" and systems aren't. As I mentioned before, the usage of the words 'singlet' and 'system' together as options throw out the concept of normal, and puts everyone on an equal stage. The discomfort stems from them being used to their mode of existence being considered normal, and the concept of trans people (or systems) being just as valid as they are disrupts that. In the case of the cis person, they're used to being considered "normal" and looking at trans people as "other," and feel weird to be put on a equivalent pedestal as trans people. They would much rather be considered normal, and in making "trans" linguistically equivalent with their experience, they feel subconsciously threatened - they don't understand that through the use of both 'cis' and 'trans,' both are now equal levels of 'normal.' In this exact same way, if a singlet feels othered simply from the usage of the word "singlet," the root of the issue is them feeling uncomfortable with the idea that they aren't the only "normal" way to exist.
Futhermore, I also argue that it's important for singlets to feel othered from the system community in some way, shape, or form - and this shouldn't create bad feelings. At the end of the day, DID/OSDD IS a huge shift in the way we experience the world, and we are really different from singlets. We need to create spaces for community support for systems that doesn't include singlets to heal from trauma, to understand ourselves better, and to build internal community. Singlets will never truly understand what it is to live multiple, because they simply don't. Again, this isn't a necessarily bad thing. The recognition that two people experience different things is an asset, and they can then learn from each other and gain new insights into life as a whole through understanding each other's experiences.
Example: I feel 'othered' from black and brown folk, and that's not a bad thing. I don't experience society the way they do, and I can't relate to their experiences of racism, culture, and community - they need to talk to another black or brown person to get that understanding. And it's important to acknowledge that difference, so we can begin to fix ingrained societal racism.
Side note: I haven't ever heard 'normie' used for neurotypical folks - only by sections of meme culture on the internet referring to another section of meme culture. Huh!
Hit character limit! Thanks for talking :)