It's Ok to Not Know Who is Fronting | Dissociative Identity Disorder
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Silver talks about how it is a very common experience to not know who's fronting in dissociative identity disorder / OSDD-1b. It's ok to exist not knowing, as multiple people, or just as a collective plural blob. Take care of yourselves in this rough time ❤️
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I was away from the window and just heard "my alters are tossed like a salad"...I was so confused and can't help but laugh.
Haha! I was trying to think of a good synonym for "tumultuous" because we cannot pronounce that word! We ended up with "in flux" (suggestion from our girlfriend!) but "tossed like salad" was in the middle there haha :)
Lol me too i was freaked out 🤣
hey bro how are you feeling today?
bruh my alters are feelin TOSSED
- a phrase I'm going to actually use
23 alters eject you from the front: Caesar Salad
You're switchy but all alters are gay: Fruit salad
I'm going to stop now
Oh my GOSH 😂😂😂😂😂 Please do NOT stop with these jokes 😂
as a fairly new system and one that was very covert prior to the Realisation TM, this video is really validating for us. it's so hard to untangle everything when the alters are so used to pretending to be the host, it feels like sometimes even they forget their own likes and preferences versus the host's. we pretty much exist in an existential confusion 24/7 these days. so thanks so much for this!
I'm so glad it was helpful!
We're like this rn all the time.. family situations make being ourselves hard
Dude this comment jsut summarized the entire reason we're watching this video. We're pretty new (in awareness) and it's hard to know who's fronting, especially around family bc we have to go back to pretending to be the host.
we’re like this too
Omg so relatable. We're compulsively pretending to be the same person and it's frustrating as hell
Extremely helpful, cause this is like, perpetually the state we exist in.
Seriously almost cried. Thank you. Just recently learned we are a system. The worst question in the world now is "how are you?"
'You' who?
This was so so comforting.
I'm so glad ❤️❤️❤️❤️
"Do something calming like playing animal crossing"
YEAH BUT WITH WHOSE VILLAGER?
Hahaha, you could always make a collective file :)
I honestly only have one villager that I dress like whoever is fronting at the time. We're a relatively small system so I have a room in my house for each alter. I couldnt imagine having a separate house for each person... our island would be so cluttered 😱
@@alis4681 Yeah, this is what we do. I'd rather be making progress on only one save file on any game, don't have enough time with work to play multiple files and actually make progress on my game backlog. Also helps that only three parts in my system are interested in playing Animal Crossing, me, one that is struggling right now and prefers to be on the inside unless she's with our SO, and a little who usually is only around because her abandonment issues have been triggered, so sometimes someone will play with her co-con to help soothe her and we'll let her pick out what she wants to wear and do. Last time she played it was raining so she put together a rain outfit with the polka dot raincoat and it was precious.
Most of the time we don’t know who’s fronting or if/when we switched. Usually there are 2+ co-con at once so the only time we can truly, definitively say who is fronting is when only 1 person is fronting
We never know who's fronting after we wake up. We go through this 20-80 minutes period of "who tf am I" every morning. I don't know if it's because being tired and being dissociative feels kinda similar or if being tired makes us dissociate (and therefore feels similar for us).
This is my experience exactly. I think sometimes i can recall who i am much later in the day as we're doing something, and i notice our body language, or some sort of visual indication (like a specific number) will call out and remind us who we are in that moment...
Gosh the exact same thing happens to us.
We’re a polyfragmented system who’s currently undergoing mass integration/fusion, and so this is a state we’re in often (especially recently). There are reasons for everything going on within systems, and this is more common and purposeful that many may think. Thank you for this. Y’all’s channel is a blessing.
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This is so interesting! Times of stress are actually the times we're most likely to be clear on who is fronting, since we each have different coping mechanisms and things that upset us. It's when nothing much is going on that it's really hard to tell if it's one or both of us, and when we're upset or animated about something that it becomes obvious.
Oh wow! That is very interesting - it really goes to show the variety in system experiences! Thank you for sharing!
We’ve noticed that too! In toxic situations there’s usually a designated alter that is handling it. This past year I’ve taken myself out of a lot of toxic situations and toxic habits and so I’ve definitely been more blurry.
I feel this too. As a new system I find my alters are much easier to recognise within myself in stressful situations than when going about daily life
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Hehe :)
Thank you for this! I've often doubted our validity as a system because it's often unclear who's fronting. We're new to realizing that we're multiple and learning to work together as a system, but every time we haven't known who was fronting, I've found myself thinking "well, if we have DID/OSDD, shouldn't it be clear who's who?" I think this is actually the first video I've seen that's talked about not always knowing and it's extremely validating to know that I'm not alone, so thank you so much!!
I'm so glad this was helpful!! ❤️❤️❤️
I literally have thought the same thing. This past year we’ve removed ourselves from a lot of toxic situations and habits, and so is alters haven’t been as defined as we usually are. I started wondering if we were integrating?? Which is something we don’t want to do! I also started wondering if maybe I was just making everything up...which I’m definitely not!
Good luck on your journey of self discovery and mental health! You are definitely not alone
Today is only my second day fronting so this message was really important for me right now. Thanks so much for that beautiful metaphor, and helpful reminders.
I'm so glad we could help ❤️❤️❤️
We’ve been following D.I.D. UA-camrs for over a year now and just recently discovered your channel. Thank you so much for putting out such great and relatable content. In our opinion you are the most straightforward, insightful, and most importantly, validating channel out there. We really appreciate you sharing your knowledge and experiences so candidly!
Thank you so much!!
They really are wonderful! I'm trying to mention y'all as much as possible, The Rings System, when people are mentioning which channels to watch.
I'm a singlet and if I can sometimes be confused about who I am when I dissociate, I can only imagine it being so much more confusing when several people are involved in this
Thanks for these informative videos 🙏❤
Of course! Thanks for learning more about DID/OSDD
Your video is coming just at the right time, we were stressing about that all day long. A heartfelt thank you from all of us
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Thank you for this. We’ve been having a lot of trouble telling who is who, especially as we’re really new to being a system (just realized in late March, currently undiagnosed). This makes us feel so much more valid. Thank you!
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same. We're trying to figure out who we are as an OSDD system, and the ring systems' vids are extremely helpful! Thank you guys! much love!
This is good timing that I found this... I think I had a... good chunk of time today where I didn’t know what or who or why or how... I was just... suspended, I guess... idk I suck at explaining things, I’m sorry. But thank you. I needed this. Thank you.
❤️ Glad we could help :)
Yes, sometimes it's extremely distressing to not know, but I find that many times it's just... how it is. It's good to remember that it's okay to not know, since sometimes it feels like we should or are expected to.
Also, yes, some of us hate this situation, and some of us actually like it, and we're all kind of close to the front lately, so it's really confusing.
I'm simultaneously feeling incredibly validated in my current confusion and disorientation - and questioning every moment of my life where I assumed I was 'me' but someone else was in charge... Reevaluating my life.
I'm newly aware that I'm part of a system and we doubled in size in the past month. Literally. I don't know everyone that well yet to know who's who and who's doing what. I appreciate everything you're saying
The only thing of this entire video I really picked up was "It's okay to exist" and honestly that's what I need to hear a lot right now. Specifically because I don't know what's going on with me mentally.
Thank you.
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Thanks for the great video! It's so much what we're going through. The other day we had our first appointment with our new therapist. Half way through the session she said "You just switched, didn't you?" and we were like "uhhh, no, I don't think so"
2 hours after the session- "OOOOOooooh! Yup, we switched."
We'll learn to recognize it one day! lol
That's a mood! I hope therapy goes well! ❤️
You’re a genius explaining this stuff. Thanks.
Thank you!
first off: I love that you are taking the time to heart every comment and reply to most
Second off: this reminded me of something that happened before lock down:
Around the time we were finding it hard to tell who is front and somehow coincidentally we have who are alike the characters we had to play for drama in 2 plays back to back they both switched in before the performance so my drama teacher congratulated me on being able to do those two acts so perfectly and that what confidence I had to dress and act like a girl and bla bla it was such a good performance I should stay in drama next year, I just thought that the fact a teacher asking me to please stay in her class was nice lol.
Third off: We finally found a good system name (the invisible system) because we first communicated with invisible pen on the walls.
Goodbye and thanks for the video! - Will (the invisible system)
Thank you! Congrats on the system name! ❤️
I have a friend who will ask me ‘who am I talking to’? Like you said, sometimes I don’t know. I am going through a sort of self identity crisis. Questioning if I. as the host/personalty really exists, or if I have always been a blend of my alters. When I had my major breakdown, before and after I was diagnosed I would have what I called snow storms, when I felt all my alters were trying to front at the same time and get my attention. It was horrible and created much suffering. Since I started accepting, rather than rejecting and trying to ‘get rid of’ of my alters things have been much better. I now express gratitude to them as they got me through traumatic times and enabled me to function.
I'm glad things have gotten better ❤️ We've had similar experiences of friends asking who's fronting and not having an answer:)
Accepting your alters is a major step in becoming a healthy system. I’m so proud of you!!
@Toni Stokes - You exist. They exist. I think it was Nin from DissociaDID channel who said that it's like taking a bowl and shattering it: no piece is more important than another, and they all make up the whole.
Yeah! We love metaphors like that. Our personal favorite is "which branch is the real tree?" because no branch is more important than another! We love the life and growth imagery, and the extended metaphor in how trees are so varied! Some trees have thin, close together branches that form a bush like appearance, some have a few strong branches that stand as individuals... ect!
@@TheRingsSystem Oh, that's great, too! Especially like your extension of the metaphor. Definitely will have to remember that one. :)
Oh, and thank you for subtitles! We read translated subtitles and listen to you, so we can learn English using your videos😂
You,,, I’m gonna keep it real here this is literally us all the time omg. We get heccin blobby and it’s s o weird ngl. Thanks for the video tho :)
Thanks i needed that...
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This explains and helps us so much! Thank you! We were scared that this wasn't normal and that there was something wrong with us. We're really happy to know that that's not the case. So thank you!! ❤️
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I constantly think I’m faking and it stresses me out so much! but this video has been so helpful. Thank you so, so, so much!
Thank you! I'm glad we could help ❤️❤️
300% watched this before but it wasnt me so I wanted to say this is wonderful thank you.
I’ve noticed that as we become more co-conscious and as we continue to remove ourself from toxic situations and toxic habits, we have become more like this. At first it was really scary. “Are we integrating??” We thought. We don’t want to integrate!! But I think it’s just a sign that we are in a healthy place.
Yeah, we’ve noticed that too! And then after that, we’ve been getting better at identifying who’s in the mushy blob and who’s contributing what. It’s a really nice place to be in sometimes where we can all chime in on certain things :)
Your metaphors are SO HELPFUL! The "mixtures of liquids" that separate out was really helpful to understand a system inside of someone I love!
Thank you!
I reallllly appreciated the music-less version, thank you so much
I'm glad it was helpful!
Good timing ... this has been us all day! Thanks for the great info! 💜
Thank you... we are feeling very lost
We’ve had three new alters form in the past week and I (the host) had a flashback several nights ago. I figured out that a trauma holder was closer to the front then I was (we were still co-con throughout the episode) and together we asked our friend (who is also a system) to help! Also thank you thank you for this video. We could’ve used it several months ago, but you’ve made it now! And it’s better then not at all!!
Thank you, Rings System. Your videos have helped us so much.
-Host [Wolf Pack-System]🐺
I'm so glad we've been so helpful ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Your videos are honestly so reconfirming and I’m so thankful that you make videos like this because there is not enough knowledge out there on these subjects. Keep doing what you do
Thank you!
For checking in with yourself, music helps us a lot since it's a lifelong interest most if not all of my system shares. When a part is clearly fronting I like to encourage them to make or maintain a Spotify playlist for themselves. Sometimes we can't tell who is fronting or co-con but we identify strongly with (or are repulsed by) a certain artist/genre/song and that can help us realize who might be there. Playlists also double as tools to help a specific part switch in or stay fronting/grounded if needed, doesn't always work but we've found a lot of success with it.
This is my main tool, as well. It drives my neighbors crazy!
This kind of clarification helped us the most...! We're so co-conscious, most of the time it's confusing- trying to just roll with it.
Thank you so much for putting this into words. When I first started trying to accept that we're a system I often felt really invalid when I experienced blending with others or we were all "tossed like a salad." I felt like if I couldn't tell which one of us was fronting or where others were in relation to me fronting I was somehow less valid. I felt like I needed to always fully understand what was going on and it felt like failure when I couldn't. It's interestingly similar to how when I first started realizing I'm not cishet I felt like I needed to know exactly what labels fit, but none of the ones I was aware of at the time did, so I felt like I didn't fit into any community fully and I felt invalid. The beautiful thing about both of these things is, after realizing I'm not alone in these experiences, I didn't have to feel invalid anymore! ❤ -Millie
I’m so glad this was so helpful!! You are totally valid, and it’s so normal to not know things about you or your system. You can sit in the “I don’t know” how ever long and how ever often you want! 💕
Is it normal to feel that way most of the time? I feel like I have two others that mostly front but I don’t know them well enough to be able to tell. I’m usually confused all of the time.
Yes! Look through the comments, and you'll see many other systems talking about how they feel confused most of the time ❤️
Tonight was my first night not noticing a switch. I was so confused as to who was fronting and I was so scared so this really helped. Thank you so much.❤️
Thank you for this, we’re a baby system and we’ve felt quite blurry multiple times a day so this really helps
thank you so much! as a new stystem we didn't realize how much we needed this.
Thank you guys for this video ♥️
I go back to these videos so often, they explain everything in such a concise way its so helpful.
Thank you. Needed this. Been blobby often lately.
Thank you. I really appreciate your videos. They are helping me understand and accept this thing I’ve struggled to accept finally.
Good timing, i really needed to hear this :)
Another video telling us exactly what we needed to hear, exactly when we needed to hear it. Thanks bunches
I'm so glad it's helpful ❤️
This helps validate us a lot and makes me feel less alone. Thank you for posting this ❤️
I’m glad 💕❤️
I felt so seen when you mentioned doing something calming “like playing animal crossing” 😂😍 loved this video, it really helped me
You have no idea how much I needed to hear this ;_; Thank you so much!
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HOOO MAN is this a video. Great job! We love y'all and your content!
Thank you! ❤️❤️❤️
This is a perfect video and an even better channel. I’m (the host) kinda young and I’m barely learning about all this and have barely met any of the alters in my system and it’s hard to tell who is in front and this video helps a lot! Thanks!
Thank you!! ❤️❤️
This was extremely validating for us. For the past two days we’ve felt like 3 of us all at once and it’s so confusing and disorienting.
We really appreciate videos that explain things such as this.
This has been a problem we've dealt with for a while. As sometimes is very hard to tell who is at the front of not. Especially when switches can happen so randomly for us.
At the end of the day we can reassure each other that we are real and that we have a right to exist freely as ourselves.
Just so many people have so many opinions about what experience really counts or not.
It's thanks to you and a few other Osdd-1b related channels we even found out about all of this in the first place, our lives are much better now that we communicate and work together to get through each day. So thank you Thank you all for providing such useful and helpful information for systems like us who struggle at times like this.
Thank you so much for all the kind words!! I’m so glad our videos have been helpful ❤️❤️
Your videos always feel so validating. Thank you.
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Thank you so much for this ^^, whenever im going through denial I just go to your channel.
❤️❤️❤️ Thank you, I'm so glad we can provide a safe space for y'all ❤️
I’ve just found your channel as I’m questioning the possibility of an OSDD dx. I just want to tell you, your videos are fantastic!! You have a seriously impressive way with explaining and describing things. You have helped me to put words to some experiences I did not know how to describe, and you helped me understand concepts that I was unclear on. You have a great skill with explanation and teaching. Thanks!
Thank you!!!! ❤️❤️ I'm so glad our videos are helpful!
I cannot stress how amazing and beneficial finding this channel has been for me. You deserve so many more subscribers than you do right now, the information you've brought has helped me so much through my realization of having OSDD. All the information you share makes me feel a little less lost, and I really appreciate the content you make. Thank you so much for having the channel that you do, and for helping people like me figure out what's going on with us. I hope you have an amazing day! --The Blank System
Thank you!! I'm so glad our channel is helpful ❤️❤️❤️
Thank you soooo much. We had this experience often, friends had it often, our clients experience it and we definitely have to show our own therapist that video.
I'm so glad it was helpful! ❤️
just came across this as we're all really blurry right now and we don't know who's fronting right now. was really helpful. thank you. -wonderland system
Ohh a name sibling!
Nice to meet you Silver, and thank you for these videos, Oh My Lord! :D
- Silver/Zero from The Crazy Colorful System 🙏🏻🖤
...I needed this video so much today. Thank you. 💜
I'm so glad it was helpful! ❤️❤️
Thanks again! I was so worried about things like that and I would try to focus as much as possible on it to never loose track of who was there or not, what are they saying etc
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Thank you once again. Your metaphors are the best 💕
Thank you ❤️
This video was amazing. Thank you
We had a messy fusion semi-recently, and since then have felt this way quite a bit more than we're used to. At times, I thought that maybe it was a sign that I'd imagined the entire thing. This video was really validating to watch. We're thinking that maybe a similar situation to yours happened; where multiple people were identifying as the same person. If you guys ever feel comfortable talking about that experience, I know we'd find it really helpful! Thank you for this, and for all you do. - Wren, The Storybook System
Thank you! We might, but we're still figuring it out for ourselves! We learn more every day ❤️
Thank you for this video! I love your explanation with the experiment!
Thank you!!
I needed this message today
Thank you for this!
Thank you. So, so much. I hate having to fake knowing whose fronting and screw with my voice to make it sound normal around those who don't know or care that we're a system. It bites.
Yeah we’ve been feeling this way just constantly. We’re a very shook up dressing. And we’ve been having terrible nightmares often, so we don’t even wake up even and peaceful.
I'm sorry to hear about the nightmares. I hope they fade soon ❤️
The Rings System Thanks, I’m sure it’s all of *waves arms* this going on.
Yeah - me too. It's why we decided to make this one now :)
I feel like I barely ever know lmao, love your channel!!
Thank you! And same here haha
Your videos are so helpful and validating
Thank you, I’m so glad they’re helpful ❤️
Thank you for saying that it’s actually common to not know who is fronting
Of course ❤️
Oh thank God!
We were so confused 😂
Thank you!
I'm glad this was helpful!! ❤️
Hey, I like you more and more)) You released video about one more problem we are facing. If an alter doesn't know who he is, he gets stressed, sometimes he can start to panic. In that case other alters (mainly, Consultant) try to calm him and ask helpful questions like "What are your gender? What do you like?" and others. Sometimes it helps... We call this "Incomplete Identification In The Body" or simply IIIB (if I translate it in English)
Thank you very much for your activity!))
Thanks for the addition!! ❤️
thank you so much!
This is wonderfully helpful, since our [undiagnosed] system experiences a lot of this, especially with alters and fragments that have a distain towards identification, and just want to do what they do without playing 20 questions and "being interrogated" as some have put it. We don't want the system to be a dictatorship, but it's hard for a lot of alters who are /known/ to understand why they'd want to stay faceless. [with aphantasia it's all the more harder to visibly see each other in headspace without the memory of who is fronting]
It's nice to just know to also just ask what sorts of stuff they like and approach it gentler. I have.... ugh, I know this is so weird, but my system we don't really have persecutors, but I call them aggressors instead? Idk if others would be mad at me for that shift, but they tend to just go for anyone out of place or making problems, not just a singular like a persecutor is seemingly defined to.
Thank you for this video and your channel.
- Pandora's Box System
Of course!
Sometimes folks just aren't ready to be known yet! It's like that quote... "the mortifying ideal of being known" or "I wish to not be perceived". Sometimes it takes a little bit for folks to feel comfortable being part of the system and existing as themselves! Be gentle and slow with them, and I'm sure it'll all work out ❤️
thank you so much for this video
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I thought that made us invalid to be honest. Like ok, we are just making switches up because I don't know who is the alter fronting, sometimes feeling, yeah maybe we didn't switch. Maybe it's all in our mind and actually we are faking switches, when we switch we feel these chills in all our bodies, in my perspective is on my legs but some feel it in their arms and face, we also have like those headaches that are super hurtful but go on really fast after and while switching. We felt invalid because sometimes when we feel we switch I say like "is this me?" "Is this Alex" or even sometimes I feel like I'm someone but I'm not
We felt the same!! Our alters are our proof that we have DID...so if the alters aren’t distinguishable, then it’s so easy to doubt myself!!
Since working on our mental health and growth and really exploring the concept of Osdd /did but osdd now primarily, there have been a few times where we are like "oh Im this person!" But often itd a bunch of new body feelings. (We think there is more than we are aware of) Thank you for letting us know this js normal cause yikes.
Thanks, very helpful and validating😊💗
I'm glad it was helpful! ❤️
I relate to this so very much! Each noodle has their own take on a situation and why they are having feelings - hence, anxiety. #osdd1a
Thank you for the new video! We're a very new system so we're still confused on a lot of things lol. Is it normal to feel like you're acting sometimes when an alter fronts? We've struggled with that. 💕
Somtimes, it's a common experience for hosts to not really leave co-consciousness, or always be some level of co-conscious. As the Alexandrite system once said, "Sometimes... you don't really leave when someone else fronts." We recommend checking out this video: ua-cam.com/video/QOjCjtOXIlA/v-deo.html
@@TheRingsSystem thank you!
Thanks this helps us a ton to know we arent the only system to go through this
Thank you! I'm glad we could help ❤️
Thank you all so much
i’ve been invalidating myself because this happens to me often and i thought that i was just making it up
I-well, we-recently discovered your channel, and it’s amazing. Thank you so so so much for being one of the only non-sysmed, non-gatekeepy systems on UA-cam.
-all of us
I just woke up and I'm figuring out who I am, this video is really helping. I laughed at the bit that explained suddenly realising who you are after a few hours cuz that uhhh yeah that literally just happened to me xD
This is how I feel quite often I can't figure it out, and it left me to starting to question I've spent most of my life with this happening every day and at 29 I still don't know, so I'm going to speak to a doctor soon, but I don't know when because I am moving for university soon.
I hope finding a therapist goes well ❤️
As a newly Awakened system (3 weeks ago) that's probably OSDD and cannot tell who is fronting 90% of the time, we appreciate this video and your channel in general a lot :) We're also still going through a lot of self doubt due to several quirks of our system, but your videos still feel very validating. And we are so going to call our blendy state "Tossed Salad" now ;D
Also got a question, do you have any thoughts on like, sharing one consciousness? For us it doesn't feel as much like we're switching out, and more like taking turns on our one shared consciousness if that makes sense? It can make it feel a lot like we're pretending and we're not sure if other systems experience this too. -The Kenira Collective
Yes! we often use the metaphor of "we have one train of thought, and who's controlling it varies." I don't know how much we use it these days, because we're working on existing simultaneously with our therapist and having many of us be present, aware of the external world, and grounded at once. (and noticing when this happens naturally! It's really cool) but yes! We relate to you description :)
Today I think I was in such a mess in terms of not knowing who was fronting that I couldn't even articulate my mouth to speak properly, it was feeling really hard
@The Rings System also, I'm back! I don't know if you remember me but I think I discovered about actually being a system. Do you have any tips on how to coax some of them out, or how to communicate with them?
We would love to watch your videos, unfortunately after five minutes we get dizzy, we don't feel well. Don't know why, we probably don't like the topic of DID / OSDD. At the same time, at least as far as I know, we are curious to learn new things. So, it's kind of confusing... I like your videos, you're so nice. Keep it up!
(sorry for our bad english)
That’s ok! Sometimes talking about dissociation can make you dissociate. Take your time, listen to your body, and know that you don’t have to engage w our content if it makes you feel like that ❤️
Hi!! I find your videos very interesting. I have a few questions to you. I have not heard about OSDD before but I’m eager to learn more about your system. I hope you don’t mind me asking. Do all of your alters know your friends and family? Has it ever happened that you could not recognize someone important? Do they have different taste in music/movies/fashion etc? thank you for sharing your experiences!! Your videos are very educational. Thank you!
1. Depends on the friend and family in question
2. Yup
3. Some do, some don’t
And for an educational piece, we’re all alters! You’re talking to one right now :)
The Rings System thank you for answering:)
Thank you ! This thing always made me feel like I’m faking ! Witch is weird cuz i know I’m not
Glad it was helpful ❤️
love this video! could you do a video on positive triggers? i can only find one by dissociaDID and was wondering if it was any different to osdd-1b. also is it ok to try and trigger someone out if you know a certain alter wants to front in a situation they dont usually front in?
Yeah, I can put that on the list! No promises of whether we'll make one in the next few months or next few years though, haha
Also, it is ok to trigger someone out if you've talked about it with them and have their consent!
@@TheRingsSystem awesome thanks for the reply!!