The Sequel That Did It Better, Zeta Gundam

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  • Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam is not only a sequel far surpassing Mobile Suit Gundam, but could easily be considered one of the greatest, and most brutal space operas of all time.
    So let's talk about it in this SPOILER PACKED analysis on Zeta Gundam.
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    music by Karl Casey @ White Bat Audio
    0:00 We all like sequels, right?
    0:53 The best sequel, Zeta Gundam
    2:07 A bit of a Zeta Gundam overview
    4:45 The Negatives of Zeta Gundam
    8:59 Let's take a proper dive into Zeta Gundam
    10:54 Kamille Bidan
    11:46 Quattro Bajeena
    12:05 The descent to Earth
    13:22 Amuro Ray
    15:05 Explaining Newtypes
    16:14 Kamille and Four Murasame
    18:16 Emma Sheen
    18:58 Reccoa Londe
    24:05 Axis Zeon
    24:55 Kamille and Four pt2
    27:41 Jerid Messa
    28:47 Char's (Quattro's) Speech
    31:19 Rosamia Badam
    32:41 The Colony Laser
    33:42 Kamille and Haman Karn
    34:44 Death, Death and more death
    35:14 Katz Kobayashi
    36:20 Had enough deaths yet?
    40:39 An unfortunate end, goodbye Kamille
    #zetagundam #gundam #mecha
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  • @False_Convoy
    @False_Convoy 6 місяців тому +33

    Zeta Gundam is probably my favorite piece of entertainment, like ever. No show, no movie, no game has ever really been able to compete for me. The setting, style, characters, sounds, themes, every part of this show is absolutely peak to me.

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  6 місяців тому +3

      It’s definitely a special piece of media that’s for sure

  • @heeltoeworldcrew9264
    @heeltoeworldcrew9264 Рік тому +74

    Zeta Gundam is still my favourite mecha show all these years later, what a timeless classic

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +9

      It’s pretty damn great ESPECIALLY considering it’s age.
      A rewatch and making an entire video about it really helped in my appreciation of it

    • @heeltoeworldcrew9264
      @heeltoeworldcrew9264 Рік тому +3

      @@Viseak yep it held up very well, and it feels like it gets better each time I re-watch it. But I agree with what you said about it having some slower parts, there are a few episodes I usually skip whenever I watch it back

    • @ninjammer726
      @ninjammer726 Рік тому

      @@Viseak scratch that please do a video essay on samurai champloo

    • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
      @Duchess_Van_Hoof 10 місяців тому +1

      The ending will forever haunt me.

  • @gerardoalexandergarciamend7053
    @gerardoalexandergarciamend7053 8 місяців тому +14

    I finished Zeta months ago and I still can't get it out of my head, it's not only my favorite Gundam but one of my favorite mecha in general

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  8 місяців тому +3

      Yeah same here, finished my rewatch for this video nearly a year ago, still thinking about it to this day

  • @TheDrewsperience
    @TheDrewsperience 10 місяців тому +20

    Zeta has a special place in my heart. I got back into Gundam when my mom was battling and then passed away from Stage 4 cancer. It gave me an escape and easy to identify with the characters especially Kamile. Loved Emma Sheen too as the perfect sidekick for the AEUG. This was an amazing review and after Zeta I watched ZZ and CCA and will re watch the UC series again. I have the New Translation but I disliked how they left out a lot especially Char's speech which is key in UC history. However, Zeta is my all time fave which helped me fall in love again with Gundam after being teased and bullied for liking Wing as an adolescent. I also now build gunpla since August and I am building an MG Ver KA Zeta. I also loved After War X which is often forgotten in the gundam universe. great work you have a new subscriber in me.

  • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
    @Duchess_Van_Hoof 10 місяців тому +15

    In ZZ I realized that the tone of the series followed the tone of the characters. Without the spacenoid teenagers it was deadly serious as Zeta had been.
    In the scenes with them, it was a comedy as they didn't take it seriously and hadn't really faced the horrors of war.
    I think Zeta did the same thing, as the amount of context for episodes we get increases as Kamille pays more attention and cares more about the greater picture.

  • @novemberbravo6194
    @novemberbravo6194 Рік тому +21

    How did I miss this when it came out?? I'm literally watching Zeta for the first time right now, and you're one of my favourite anime/mecha channels...Triple playlisting this one so I make sure I don't forget to watch it when I get home tonight.

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +4

      UA-cam’s a bit like that sometimes, not pushing videos out to subs 😅
      Glad it made its way to you none the less!
      I should warn you the videos full of spoilers so if you haven’t finished Zeta maaaybe wait until you do

    • @novemberbravo6194
      @novemberbravo6194 Рік тому +3

      @@Viseak Thanks for the heads up - Unfortunately I’ve already been spoiled on the main events of the plot, so no worries there.
      Oh, as long as I’m thinking about it, I’ve actually been wanting to get some advice from folks who make anime-related content. I’ve been on a major anime kick lately and I have several series/OVAs/movies/etc that I want to make videos about, but I know that a lot of the companies that hold the rights to various anime properties are quite…mm, draconian when it comes to people using clips for their content on YT. I don’t mind my videos getting claimed, it’s not like I’m making any money from ads anyway, I only just hit 100 subs, but I don’t want to get a strike or anything like that. Do you happen to have any advice for how to deal with that type of stuff/avoid getting videos blocked/taken down, etc?

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +3

      @@novemberbravo6194 damn that’s a shame, still a worthy watch none the less so I hope you’ve enjoyed the ride.
      Congrats on 100 subs! About your question it can get a bit tricky, particularly with any anime owned by Toei. If it’s a Toei production I’d say be extra cautious, use less clips and keep clips to under 15 seconds ish as a rule of thumb, mainly used for context only.
      For everything else, you can be a bit more generous but still don’t go overboard with clips.
      When you do use clips, there are a bunch of ways to avoid copyright bots that could just strike your channel outright. Personally I layer the footage in a clipbox over the recording of myself which helps a lot, as a lot of copyright bots tend to scan pixels in the 4 corners of a video (or so I’ve heard). You could also adjust the speed of clips, mirror them, or add filters to them, a common one is the aged TV filter slapped on top. You can even get a bit creative and layer your clips so it looks like they’re playing on a vintage TV which can look pretty neat.
      But yeah, basically the main thing is not to overuse them, and try to avoid just having clips playing on the screen. A perfect example of what NOT to do is my horrible and old Zoids timeline video that has more copyright claims on it than I can count 😅

    • @novemberbravo6194
      @novemberbravo6194 Рік тому +3

      @@Viseak Oh, I’ve absolutely enjoyed watching it! My first UC show (if you don’t count Thunderbolt since that’s kinda a stand-alone property anyway) was Unicorn, so I had a rough idea of where the MSG/Z/ZZ/CCA story was going anyway. And the jump in animation quality over 0079 is astounding - I’m a massive sakuga geek, so I’ve been getting a ton of enjoyment out of that aspect of it.
      Thanks so much for taking the time to write out all the tips/ideas, I really appreciate it! I’ll keep the thing about Toei in mind, and make sure to do a little background on who the rights holders are for the shows I’m planning on writing about are before I start production. And those are all some great, really creative ideas for how to disguise footage so it doesn’t trip the scanners. Seriously, thank you, it means a lot that you’re willing to offer such comprehensive advice!
      Oh, and thanks for the ‘grats on the 100 subs; I’m still trying to wrap my head around the notion that there might be somewhere close to 100 people who are interested enough in my content to want to lend me their time and attention like that (I’m sure at least a few of them are bots/throwaways that aren’t genuine subs). It’s both really humbling and a little scary lol, but honestly, ever since I started making videos, it’s the happiest I’ve been in a long time. I haven’t felt this creatively a personally fulfilled since I was in a band back when I was in college (that enterprise unfortunately crashed and burned pretty thoroughly, but that’s another story). I told myself when I started out that I was going to do it exclusively for myself, and not worry at all about numbers; I’ve had several creative ventures fail because I got too wrapped up in the notion of success as opposed to doing them because it made me happy. I even made a video essay about that very topic, haha.
      Anyway, I’ll stop rambling, I really should get to bed, it’s almost 6AM here and I’ve been filming/editing for the last several hours. Thank you again, cheers!

    • @DigitalFulcrum
      @DigitalFulcrum 6 місяців тому +1

      You missed it when it came out probably because you were not even born. Also the western distribution of the Gundam franchise, especially UC content has been handled so poorly until recently. Only some streaming services pick up classic Gundam content. If I recall, not even Netflix, the new "home of Gundam" even has Zeta on it. My bet is because Netflix only wants the new flashy Gundam content to keep.

  • @kaom4713
    @kaom4713 Місяць тому +2

    The four episode was my favorite. When she walks past the spot where she was just with kamille was a very relatable moment for me personally.

  • @synysterpain
    @synysterpain Рік тому +12

    Great vid, zeta is still my fav gundam series. I watched the original a few years ago and found some parts slow there but zeta fully caught my attention alot more and that ending was so tragic. I honestly didn't expect Katz to die. I thought the kids were safe lol

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +3

      Thanks man, and same here, the original didn’t quite do it for me, but Zeta was amazing, even with its few shortcomings.
      I felt something brewing with Katz towards the end there, he was getting a little too reckless for comfort, but I didn’t expect a death either, maybe a lost arm or something but nope, just gone

  • @wootdoo
    @wootdoo Рік тому +7

    I used to always see comments about people hating zeta Gundam. That really confused me a few years ago when I first saw it because I thought zeta was absolutely amazing. I'm almost done with my second watch and you're right it is so much better on the second viewing. Zeta sends chills down my spine

  • @GeroniMomartinezMG
    @GeroniMomartinezMG Рік тому +7

    I'm so happy you finally got to do vids about gundam and zeta! And long-form too! Listening to it right now as i travel back home from vacation, i love it man. I'm sending it to my other gundam friends as well

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate the love man! I’m definitely looking at covering more Gundam in the future too

  • @ttravis10
    @ttravis10 5 місяців тому +1

    Leaving another comment to say bravo sir. I watched this after watching your ZZ Gundam commentary. Such a well thought out and orchestrated piece in both cases. I only wish I could describe these series’ that I love with as much accuracy and depth as you did.

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  5 місяців тому +1

      Really appreciate that man 🫶🏼
      I get in my own head a lot wondering if I’m actually explaining myself well or if I’m just regurgitating the plot too much so hearing stuff like this makes my day, seriously

    • @ttravis10
      @ttravis10 5 місяців тому

      @@Viseak I understand I’m the same way. But these shows are too layered for a “simple” explanation.

  • @aaronluisdelacruz4212
    @aaronluisdelacruz4212 Рік тому +8

    "confusing in the start" *Looks at Victory Gundam* About that.

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +4

      That’s, a whole other can of worms 😅

  • @jennastewart7305
    @jennastewart7305 Рік тому +8

    A few minutes in and I have a couple corrections. The One Year War dindn't devastate the galxy, just Earth's main orbital area. The A.E.U.G. stands for Anti Earth Union Group, not Anti Earth Union Government, and it is pronounced phonetically as Ayoog in stead of being spelled out like most acronyms.

  • @Eisenschnell
    @Eisenschnell Рік тому +6

    I love Zeta. In my heart it is a 10/10 but despite that I think I have to give it a 9/10. It has problems but I adore it. It's definitely not for everyone. It's a show that assaults you with dialogue and information without really explaining any of it.

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +4

      Honestly, very fair criticism.
      An assault of dialogue is a really great way to explain the start of Zeta, and explains why it confused me so much at first.
      There’s just a lot going on in the beginning but once you wrap your head around it, it really is a fantastic series

    • @williamcase426
      @williamcase426 Місяць тому

      Yeah, I watched most of rhe original msg at 2x+ speed and could get all of the dialog. There aren't many Zeta episodes I could do that and follow what was happening.

  • @yhdefault2929
    @yhdefault2929 Рік тому +4

    Great video, Zeta is such a dense show so I'm glad you really tore into it! I'm just sad about that ten-episode stretch as well, the battles in those episodes feel very obligatory. The only other thing that really stank to me was Rosamia, who I didn't like at all on my first watch. "Ahh, another cyber newtype who grows close to Kamille and probably dies?!?!" I thought. She goes deeper than that, but I still have a shred of that initial revulsion, lol.
    To go on a tangent, 79 to Zeta is a miracle of worldbuilding and concepts being a mix of stuff from real life and high creativity. When I watched 79, the Zeon obsession with ridiculously specialized weapons reminded me of the concept of "Wunderwaffe" from WW2, where the Germans invested massive sums of money into prototypes that never really helped that much. Add how Zeon's uniforms and general aesthetics resemble the Nazis, and it's an interesting bit of verisimilitude on the part of the creators. Zeta stepped it up a notch with the Titans, who scream of Operation Paperclip holdovers (taking Nazi tech = reorganizing Zakus into Hizacks, cyber newtypes imitating Kycilia's Newtype Corps, etc.), and Cold War paranoia. Their designs are simple: a freakishly sci-fi gestapo, with ugly characters to match them. It's such a fascinating blend of history and art, though I'm sure some of it is unintentional.
    And yeah, you are super on-point with the characters. Kamille is such a great one... given how terrible the world of Zeta is, an antisocial protagonist made a ton of sense and seeing him not accept the bullshit around him made the show a thrill to watch. The other characters are interesting too, I feel like the whole cast is fighting a battle of ideology vs. ethics/personal feelings. Everyone makes their decision by the end, be it Reccoa or Kamille or Quattro Bajeena (who weirdly looks like Char!). Such an awesome follow-up to 79.
    TL;DR: ZETA IS COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

    • @Dynamodel48
      @Dynamodel48 10 місяців тому +1

      Quattro is char anzable. AKA Casval Deikun, Edwardo Moss. I wonder if that's why the name Quattro is Casval's fourth identity. He has several conversations with Amuro, Brite Noah, Reacoa, and I believe he tells Kamil who he is in a very vague way. Amaro asks char why they fought together during the grips war, if he was only going to end life on earth in chars counter attack. Full frontal from Unicorn is NOT char. He is a cyber-newtype clone of char. Just a few need facts about who casval becomes.

  • @drawzee465
    @drawzee465 Рік тому +6

    YEAAHH BABY I’ve been waiting for this one since your poll a couple months back!
    Awesome stuff, are you planning to continue making longer videos?

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +2

      Ha glad I delivered on it then 😅
      I am thinking long form videos is the way forward for me, sure it means more infrequent uploads, but they’re far more fun to make and I feel like I can genuinely cover a topic with a lot more depth, whereas in a lot of my old shorter videos I feel like I just missed so much that begged a lot of understandable questions in the comments 😅😅😅

    • @williamcase426
      @williamcase426 Місяць тому

      ZETA ALL THE WAY!

  • @TheFirehands150
    @TheFirehands150 10 місяців тому +3

    Aside from the Rosami Arc, and some Katz, the show is nearly perfect.

  • @explorejupiter4159
    @explorejupiter4159 Рік тому +1

    Ayo the gym shark shirt 😳
    (Great vid btw)

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +2

      Haha thanks man, think I’ve earned it looking back at how I looked in my videos from the start of the year 😅

  • @milaboyd5682
    @milaboyd5682 2 місяці тому

    listening to this like a podcast while i draw kamille ty

  • @the_Pleiades
    @the_Pleiades 2 місяці тому +3

    Kamille is my favorite autistic character. He destroyed the Titans with just a ''girly name lmao.''

  • @charlesballiet7074
    @charlesballiet7074 17 днів тому

    honestly because this anime pulls no punches when it comes to "main characters" dying pointless deaths it feels like the most real gundam of them all

  • @ARCtrooperblueleader
    @ARCtrooperblueleader 5 місяців тому

    Brilliant video. Excellent work.

  • @mattmaddogwheaton4724
    @mattmaddogwheaton4724 11 місяців тому +1

    Zeta is one of my favorites in the Gundam series and one of my favorite mecha shows overall.

  • @quincyblackwell8885
    @quincyblackwell8885 Рік тому +3

    Jerid was like Kai Leng in Mass Effect 3. One of the best femshep lines was "I don't care who he is. The next time we meet, he dies"

  • @Tom-qo4mz
    @Tom-qo4mz 2 місяці тому

    i've not watched the video yet and will not until i've finished zeta, but it came up on my home yt page so wanted to come to ask - i'm on ep 20 and i'm not enjoying it. does it get better or is the fact i'm not enjoying it indicate i won't enjoy the whole of it? TIA (ftr i absolutely loved MSG, the only gundam i've seen other than these first 20 eps of zeta). i look forward to watching the vid after i've finished it in a month or so

  • @ilhamadigunawan5264
    @ilhamadigunawan5264 4 місяці тому

    this video really encapsulate how i feel about Zeta. its my favorite Gundam series to date, followed by War in the Pocket (which i hope you made a video of in the future wink wink edit : i just realized you've made it lol, so i hope you made all of the OVA gundam or even Char's Counterattack). Also, you should check out the short of where Char is after Zeta (i think it's from Gihren's Greed game, i'm not sure), but it explained Char's motivation moving forward and the effect of Kamille "death" for him. it's on youtube.

  • @MrDarksol
    @MrDarksol Рік тому

    1st off I hope you had a merry Christmas and a happy New Year dude and secondly I'm happy that you talked about Zeta gundam. I did watch a little bit of it several years ago but never fully finished it but considering that I finished up with iron blooded orphans, did not like how season 2 was nor did I like how that ended and currently watching witch from Mercury and still in shock that it took them 11 episodes to finally give me something in terms of a plot instead of just dragging its feet over and over and a certain female character I'm being very annoyed with, I think I need something a bit more fulfilling and not is dragging as Witch lol. This did take me back from what people have been telling about Zeta for years like how Kamille is a very good protagonist despite the fact that he starts off as being a d*** but he ends up developing and growing later on, Char is at his best at this point in the series, this series hates women and people, Four was a good love interest until she died and finally that ending STILL gives me chills. I probably am just gonna go and watch the entirety of Zeta gundam again because I need to finish it and while Gundam seed Destiny TRIED to copy Zeta, it definitely didn't do at good as Zeta. Great job in talking about this legendary show although man I still think they dropped the ball with Double Zeta lol. Haman is still great and the second half is amazing but that god damn first half. Anyway, soild work!

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому

      Same to you man!
      Honestly I haven’t finished IBO either or even started WFM, I’m sure I’ll check it out at some point but as a whole I tend to be disappointed with anything outside the UC timeline 😅😅😅
      Kamilles honestly a fantastic protagonist, arguably my favourite after my rewatch but that COULD just be recency bias talking haha, Char’s fantastic in Zeta too and this is probably the peak of his character imo
      Zeta hates a lot and that’s probably because Tomino hated a lot at the time, this was one of his Kill ‘em all’s after all. I can only imagine what was going through his head at the time, but man he sure delivered a great anime with a gripping ending.
      ZZ is a tonal whiplash for sure, maybe I’ll make a video on it someday too 🤔
      None the less thanks for checking, always appreciate the support!

    • @MrDarksol
      @MrDarksol Рік тому

      @@Viseak No problem and honestly the only reason why I'm sticking with WFM is because of the main girl because we never really had a female protagonist actually be the main protagonist in a gundam series before and I'm sticking with it because she is the most interesting character in the cast with the exception of another character that I like a whole lot lol.

  • @nexo42069
    @nexo42069 11 місяців тому +1

    The rb 79 ball gets rolling

  • @Makoto778
    @Makoto778 5 місяців тому +1

    Currently in my X rewatch of Zeta Gundam.... Yeah I lost count, but I sometimes still come across small particular details and interpret details differently...

  • @arx3516
    @arx3516 4 місяці тому +2

    In my opinion Kamille's growth was extremely forced, in the first episode he was basically a psycopath, and then just a few episodes later, after being beaten up a few times, he becomes calm, serious and dependable.

    • @providencebreaker1558
      @providencebreaker1558 Місяць тому

      I dunno. I think most people who were kids in the 70's and 80's can relate to the correlation between severe beatings and personal growth.

  • @aquamidideluxe5079
    @aquamidideluxe5079 3 місяці тому

    Outstanding analysis. Re: the discussion of Reccoa's reveal of sexual assault, I actually rewatched the scene via the dub after watching it subbed first, and I noticed in the dub script she instead says that men only know how to "take advantage of" women. To "take advantage of" someone obviously has various meanings which would be applicable to Scirocco's treatment of her, but in the context of men taking advantage of women, it's obviously commonly used as a euphemism for sexual assault, and that was where my mind immediately went when she said that. So ironically, this was an instance where the dub script got the meaning across better for English-speaking audiences than the more literal sub script, while still maintaining the original nuance. This is why localization is a good thing!

  • @palpaladin315
    @palpaladin315 9 місяців тому +2

    Lol, things changed a lot in 5yrs. Especially pop cultural tropes. - By '83 we bid a find farewell to the '70's and Disco; as we became aware that despite the nuclear noose over our heads, called "The Cold War" - a much closer nemesis called " the body corporate" was getting outta hand. By '88 we destroyed their power knowing very well they're not just gonna give up.
    That is what Zeta Gundam was really about. Aclnowledging Gen X's war on corporations revolting behavior. The "Titans", are a direct reflection on this. - The english localization of Zeta injects some fairly hard core fraternal hatred, amid a potential divorce . When in actual fact, Kamille is sincerely disgusted that both his parents are employed by this this corporation, that had arisen by becoming political, and then militant. - We're not talking about public service corporations, but the consortium of interlocking directorships revolving around PMC's.
    If Zeta had released in the '70s it would have gotten very little press, maybe a niche audience at most; and then come the mid 80s, it would be picked up, and held high as a prophetic piece. The UC era of Gundam has quite a bit of divination throughout, its almost uncanny.
    So, I wouldn't say it was better than the original Gundam by any measure that isn't subjective. More to the point is its tropes are still relevant to today (on many levels), whereas the 70s are so far away from you its difficult to envision. - Like all of the UC era Gundam, Zeta is less a sequel, than it is a continuity. Thats why Unicorn and Origins did so well. They know the entire narrative of the series, its just a matter of deciding what to focus on; and tell a particular story. Thats how we end up with really good stories like 'War in the Pocket'.
    ZZ final act, and finale to that whole 'Zeta' era was absolutely sensational. That was what changed everything about Gundam. - but Zeta, as good as it is, was also an updated version of the Original series, to serve the youth of the 80's, and also, to evolve the continuity. It was cleverly done.

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  9 місяців тому +2

      Crazily enough, I barely even thought of how the context of the 80’s and Gen X really drove the narrative direction, but yeah, it is still pretty relevant these days too.
      Great write up man

    • @palpaladin315
      @palpaladin315 9 місяців тому

      @@Viseak Onya mate 👍 - I somehow completely forgot to mention the context of how the Titans had inspired, counter-corporatism in the shape of the AEUG. Largely funded by Anaheim electronics, through the philanthropy of its board (particularly Blex Forer and Wong Lee). Anaheim began much like that of SpaceX. They were major proponents of the 'Earth reclamation project' and while the Feds percieved the Titans as a Neo Zion uprising; Anaheim and of Earth based public service corporations believed Jamitoffs true aim was to swallow up all those corporations. Which is where Luio & Co come in as backers of Karaba. Hong Kong is a major civil spaceport by thos time.
      So whilst Luio & Co, or Anaheim engineering are not very militant corporations. They respond to the threat on humanity as best they can. The Jupiter project is like, the big milestone of its era. The aim being to survey the planet for rare isotopes and of course, abundant He-3.

  • @hagbardceline7118
    @hagbardceline7118 5 місяців тому

    So I've been kinda looking around for how to get into gundam and it seems just go in order is the way to go, but as a trekkie, the impression I have is the 79 series is like tng and Zeta is its DS9

  • @temporaneo617
    @temporaneo617 17 днів тому

    My biggest issue with zeta is the editing. Sometimes, a scene ends abruptly, and transitions to another one with a jarring change of tone. Like, you can have two characters talking calmly about their feelings and then you only have half a second between the end of their conversation and the new scene where two spaceships are fighting and there's action music. That detracts a lot from my enjoyment of the show, and it isn't something new because the movie trilogy based on 0079 does that too (like in Lalah's death scene where the scene literally ends before the end of the background song)

  • @RezaQin
    @RezaQin 9 місяців тому

    I love Zeta, it was my first Gundam!

  • @Paledomain
    @Paledomain 15 днів тому +1

    well lets see:
    -we arent used to the federation being good, in fact we see throughout the entire original show how abusive and power hungry and easily blinded by power they are, so the immediate defection to aeug doesnt feel weird imo
    -bright gets jumped by titans multiple times and by the last time when he's piloting a civic vehicle in space, he's already had enough of the dudes, so he also switches, not against the federation but specifically against the titans, again not too confusing
    -the last one is a hizack, not a zaku, the name is not a replacement or a misnomer: after the one year war we are told at the start of UC that federation starts trying to co opt zeon tech into their own, which is where the hizack is born, and becomes emblematic of; you can see a mark of this on the hizack's chest, as it has a GM-like torso, and not a zaku one

    • @Paledomain
      @Paledomain 15 днів тому

      i do fully agree with the rest of the gripes though

  • @fashionforty
    @fashionforty 10 місяців тому

    Great perspective.

  • @tomnoblesix5187
    @tomnoblesix5187 Рік тому +3

    Honestly I agree with all the negative points brought up.
    But ill leave a comment anyway cause this video deserves more attention

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +1

      Thanks man any bit of support is appreciated!

  • @GitGudFox
    @GitGudFox 10 місяців тому +1

    The only problem I had with Zeta was the ending. I didn't like the usage of essentially magic to allow Kamille to defeat Scirocco.

    • @RezaQin
      @RezaQin 9 місяців тому

      The new type "magic" makes sense but I hated that kamile became a vegetable.

    • @Tuning3434
      @Tuning3434 9 місяців тому +1

      My headcanon is that Zeta decided to take a more visual approach to what Newtypes experience compared to 0079, because it is a visual media. Newtype force ghost doesn't necessary means there is a visual newtype force ghost popping up, but it can also mean characters feel / experience the presence of people. Gundams suddenly glowing doesn't necessary mean magic, but it is the visual representation of how newtype's experience interacting with some powerfull characters... gutfeeling, stone in the stomach, etc that is actually validated if you are as sensitive as a newtype. I like how this shows starts to codifying it as characters feeling pressure, because for sure newtypes are not common enough to codify a common lingo to describe their experiences.

    • @providencebreaker1558
      @providencebreaker1558 Місяць тому

      In case you haven't noticed, every Tomino Gundam project ends with magic happening.

    • @williamcase426
      @williamcase426 Місяць тому

      Yeah, I didn't like the whole magic in the robot either. Pretty unnecessary in my opinion. Perfect otherwise.

  • @dante22723
    @dante22723 6 місяців тому +1

    It has its flaws but still a masterpiece especially that ending 😢

  • @mugekuge
    @mugekuge 5 місяців тому +1

    Zeta gundam has cause me to go into deep depression after rewatching it again

    • @williamcase426
      @williamcase426 Місяць тому

      Those last few episodes hit like a truck

  • @rimjobledouche5201
    @rimjobledouche5201 5 місяців тому +1

    Zeta Gundam is one of the anime series of all time.

  • @gabriels9919
    @gabriels9919 6 місяців тому

    And then there is the sequel that did it even better, ZZ, peak gundam

  • @Triggermappy
    @Triggermappy Рік тому +2

    some people told me he got the happy ending he deserves in ZZ but I can't get myself to finish it tho.

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +2

      He sure does, and I got a video on ZZ coming in the very near future
      TLDR it’s good and you should finish it

    • @wootdoo
      @wootdoo Рік тому +1

      It's just the first 15 episodes. Kinda cringe af. Get stoned or have some beers and it's almost funny sometimes

    • @wootdoo
      @wootdoo Рік тому

      The later episodes of ZZ are pretty good tho. Considering how it starts it's a hell of a redemption

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому

      @@wootdoo they aren’t THAT bad, but downing a few beers never hurts the experience haha

    • @Duchess_Van_Hoof
      @Duchess_Van_Hoof 10 місяців тому

      Happier ending yes, happy ending is questionable however. Shit goes to hell on Earth.

  • @MekaRamen
    @MekaRamen 25 днів тому

    Does everyone forgotten Bright threaten to spank Emma for not following his order? 😂

  • @providencebreaker1558
    @providencebreaker1558 Місяць тому

    I think you're supposed to be confused early on because they want you to empathize with Kamille's own confusion.

  • @ttravis10
    @ttravis10 5 місяців тому

    Zeta Gundam is the goat (the series and the Gundam itself). That’s the comment.
    Also… we all agree that Jerid is a newtype .. right?

  • @sachibombastic754
    @sachibombastic754 Рік тому +2

    For you next video could you do one on zoids. A deep dive into a versus. Between the evolution of the geno breaker to the gairyuki from fuzors. Or Raven vs Blake from fuzors.
    Been wondering if the Gairyuki is really the best of the fury line.

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +2

      Honestly with the crazy power creep they introduced in Fuzors (with Fuzors potentially being over 10x stronger together than seperate Zoids) and the Gairyuki stomping lots of early show Fuzors without Fuzing (clearly surpassing the previously fused Buster Fury) then yeah it’s by FAR the most broken Zoid in the line

    • @sachibombastic754
      @sachibombastic754 Рік тому

      @Viseak that much I do agree with. It's just I saw a comment from a different video awhile ago. Saying how the geno breaker could beat the gairyuki. So I wasn't exactly sure if the geno breaker that raven had at the end would be able to compete

  • @mazoku112
    @mazoku112 7 місяців тому

    Finally, someone who gets it.

  • @porkflaps4717
    @porkflaps4717 6 місяців тому

    You better put some RESPEK on Jerid's name, is a BEAST pilot bruh whatchu talkin' bout ? He pilots almost every available mech and he is relentless. By the time he pilots the Byarlant, he comes into his own and he becomes a powerful newtype. Haman Karn could feel it. It took Kamille at peak newtype power to put an end to Jerid, he was no chump. But people constantly dump on Jerid saying the same thing over and over. I argue that Jerid was actually a great and WORTHY antagonist to Kamille.

  • @Dynamodel48
    @Dynamodel48 10 місяців тому

    Zeta was 80+ edisopes of a beautiful tragedy.

  • @DSMadara
    @DSMadara 7 місяців тому

    The Transforming gimmick was popularize by Macross.... ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?!

  • @sanictheedgehog
    @sanictheedgehog 4 місяці тому +1

    I honestly don't agree with the series needing to be shorter. Heck you contradict yourself in saying there's a painful 10 episode stretch while saying all of the cool and exciting things that happened in that stretch. I got through that stretch in one sitting, Just because you can sit through a pretentious 7 hour god of war review but not those 10 episodes speaks more of your taste (or lack of it) than any actual condemnation of the show.

  • @adrian_veidt
    @adrian_veidt 25 днів тому

    Seed Destiny: Can I copy your homework?
    Zeta: Sure, just don't make it shitty
    Seed destiny: Okie dokie 💩💩💩💩

  • @I2obiNtube
    @I2obiNtube 9 місяців тому +9

    "Kamille is a girl's name, *proceeds to steal a completely unsecured gundam and go on a rampage*", yes so compelling and thought provoking lmao

  • @scylla4342
    @scylla4342 9 місяців тому +2

    Zeta is cool but story, plot, characters, settings, everything is just so much better in the original Mobile Suit Gundam

    • @jeremyfields9009
      @jeremyfields9009 8 місяців тому +1

      I watched Zeta during the pandemic for the first time after many people telling me it’s the best Gundam show ever. Man was I underwhelmed, the villains were so one dimensional, forgettable and boring. It’s been years since I saw OG Gundam and I still remember Char, the Zabi’s, Ramba Ral, Black Tri Star, M'Quve, etc. I only remember Haman and that creep that took over the titans. the show pacing is terrible, sometimes it feels like they don’t know how to advance the plot. The mobile suits from both sides look similar so the battles are confusing sometimes. Kamille, Char, and Emma are probably the only interesting characters. I know Zeta introduce a lot of lore to the franchise but this show is alright at best. The characters in Gundam 0079 were way more compelling.

    • @sanictheedgehog
      @sanictheedgehog 4 місяці тому +2

      @@jeremyfields9009 Horrible taste. Show is great. Unironcially one of them 500 IQ shows. OG gundam is great but Zeta really hit it out of the park. Char is the best antagonist of the entire series, but the Zeta ones aren't slouches. They serve their purposes to advance character arcs like Roacca and Char's and add depth to the conflict.

  • @SmeliqtPi4
    @SmeliqtPi4 6 місяців тому

    Shame you didn't mention anything about Yazan and how the series would suffer without an implacable enemy like him around.

  • @Herr_Gamer
    @Herr_Gamer 9 місяців тому

    ZZ time

  • @bartome7o
    @bartome7o Рік тому +1

    Wonder if a new translation takes over the canon of the og zeta ending

  • @arx3516
    @arx3516 4 місяці тому

    The real reason why Katz is a failed Gundam pilot is simply that there wasn't another Gundam for him to pilot! This show suffers from what i call "mono-protagonist syndrome", where you can only have 1 main protagonist and the one from the previous series must be put in the background to let the new guy shine. IMO they should have let Amuro join the Argama and pilot the Mk 2.

  • @WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer
    @WorldsGreatestRingAnnouncer Рік тому +3

    I’ll make a bold statement. Camille is the strongest new type outside of Char, but Amuro is the best pilot out of any new type.

  • @almostnorris623
    @almostnorris623 3 місяці тому

    5:10 A confusing explanation I give to myself in real life is if i try to differentiate between the term right wing group and left wing group in the real world during times of war since politics differ in every nation. It's like the police putting a wanted poster in Gotham labeling Batman as the number one wanted man a man who is orphaned ( long story) already in too deep and a threat to some powers that may be on the streets of Gotham.

    • @almostnorris623
      @almostnorris623 3 місяці тому

      I had a Gundam umbrella at 1st grade, and it had a printed image of a G Gundam series machina model.

  • @captainuber3542
    @captainuber3542 5 місяців тому +2

    I genuinely hated Katz because he was just so stupid.

  • @_MrLee
    @_MrLee Рік тому +1

    Can you make a series that breaks down the technology used to create the Zoids and Gundam? Nobody is explaining about the technology on how it could possibly work in the real world. I've heard Nanoparticles and Nuclear fusion yada yada... But I'm interested in someone with ADHD+ to break down a whole realistic working build. Estimated Price. Software. Hardware. Metals. The whole entirety of the Robot.

  • @charlesballiet7074
    @charlesballiet7074 17 днів тому

    23:20 bruh did you seriously pardon requa because she got rejected. like thats the norm for most men and we dont get the benefit of the doubt.

  • @gundamnmechas8518
    @gundamnmechas8518 Місяць тому

    2:12 Gundam isn't really _galactic_ in scale, especially not during Zeta

  • @UnexpectedDanger
    @UnexpectedDanger 12 днів тому +1

    Some of the pronunciation in this video genuinely hurts

  • @needsmoretacos4807
    @needsmoretacos4807 5 місяців тому +1

    May you rest in peace Emma, best written women in zeta. Shes awesome. Fa is blah and annoying and Reccoa is a problematic mess of sexism that again forefront ideologies of emotional women who just need a man to sort her out 😅

    • @sanictheedgehog
      @sanictheedgehog 4 місяці тому

      Way to completely miss the point of Roacca. You have to be completely brain dead to come away with that take on her when that's literally the exact opposite of the message. She's a tragic victim of assualt that tried coping but ended up down the wrong path. She is then taken down by another woman who is not defined by any other male characters.

  • @shamejob5208
    @shamejob5208 Рік тому +1

    More zoids vids love em

  • @bartome7o
    @bartome7o Рік тому +2

    You must hate wing gundam, zero, and epyon ehhh

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +3

      Ah I wouldn’t say hate, definitely not a big fan of them though haha

  • @jackspicy7228
    @jackspicy7228 13 днів тому

    Fast and furious 1 is better thsn the 2nd one

  • @ninjammer726
    @ninjammer726 Рік тому

    Please do a video essay on samurai champloo 🐉🐲🙏👌🔥❤️😭😭😭😭😭😭🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖🦖

  • @marvelboi3416
    @marvelboi3416 3 місяці тому

    I wished the Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam compilation movie 1-3 was in Dubbed(English) so I don't have to go through the 50 episodes series. Is there any other way or I just have to painfully sit through this long episodes. Or maybe I can skip this series and just go straight to Char Counterattack movie😂 lol... I heard the watch order for the UC universe
    Mobile Suit Gundam
    ---------------------------------
    ◇The Orgin: Advent of the Red Comet
    ◇MSG Movie 1-3
    ◇Cucuruz Doan's Island
    ◇The 08th MS Team
    ◇ War in the Pocket
    ◇Thunderbolt
    ◇Stardust Memory
    ◇Zeta Gundam
    ◇ Char's Counterattack
    ◇Unicorn RE: 0096
    ◇Gundam Narrative
    ◇Hathaway
    ◇F91

    • @bikerboy4161
      @bikerboy4161 Місяць тому +1

      I’m a little late to this comment. But your list is missing Gundam ZZ.

    • @marvelboi3416
      @marvelboi3416 Місяць тому

      @@bikerboy4161 I didn't include Gundam ZZ because I do not want to watch it. I heard it's not that good and it's too comedic.

  • @skrydon78
    @skrydon78 5 місяців тому +2

    New Translation ruined zeta

  • @terrelljestin376
    @terrelljestin376 Рік тому +1

    what is zeta Gundam is show

    • @williamcase426
      @williamcase426 Місяць тому

      It is show

    • @terrelljestin376
      @terrelljestin376 26 днів тому

      @@williamcase426 thanks men you like all episodes in gundam seed destiny

  • @tartusmaximus179
    @tartusmaximus179 11 місяців тому

    Loved the original gundam series can't say the same about zeta I do remember kamile the main character with a girls name he was a real piece of shit😂😂

  • @ninjammer726
    @ninjammer726 Рік тому

    Please do a video essay on code geass 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🐉🐲🦖🦖🦖🦖🙏👌🎮

  • @jonbranch710
    @jonbranch710 Рік тому +1

    Wait 2 fast 2 furious... that was crap!

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  Рік тому +1

      AYO we respect 2 Fast 2 Furious in this house cuz

  • @kamille1837
    @kamille1837 10 місяців тому +1

    Okay funny sounding small moustache man, I'll watch

    • @Viseak
      @Viseak  10 місяців тому +1

      Okay, Kamille 🫡

  • @IKKIsama14
    @IKKIsama14 8 місяців тому +1

    Clearly unpopular opinion but I kinda hate Zeta. 5/10 for me.