If you listen to the “internet” you will always miss out on great music and great artists! King of the Clouds has always been my favorite song! people took this album as him bragging about his success and that’s not it at all. It’s very tongue in cheek, but it’s about the price of fame. And High Hopes is a great song, although it was overplayed
Pray For the Wicked is probably my least favorite panic album BUT I still love it, it had to grow on me first but I consider it a pretty solid album I even enjoy listening to High Hopes on occasion
Funnily enough this is the first Panic! album I listened to in full, because a free copy was sent to me as a gift for subscribing to a music publication. I didn't *love* it but I liked some tracks, loved Say Amen, and that was enough to get me to check the rest of the band's discography. And almost all the rest sounded better or at the very least more interesting. So... it was a pretty good way to get introduced to the band's discography because it was sort of a low bar, all things considered, lol
Fun fact about how overplayed High Hopes and Hey look Ma i Made were,High Hopes spent 34 weeks straight at number 1 on Billboards Hot Rock and Alternative chart, then Hey Look Ma I Made it spent 11 weeks number one...then High Hopes went back to number 1 for another 31 weeks. But in Hungary High Hopes has been in their year end charts every year since 2019.
Pre-watching the video thoughts. I enjoy a lot of genres and Panic! and Brendon were my introduction for music and during that path I've been diagnosed with being a bit of a pophead, I'd say I'm a bit like Patrick Stump who loves pop and R&B, but also loves punk and emo. So, this is my opinion on Pray For The Wicked, I think it's their weakest album but it's so good, while in my opinion it's not the greatest album even on its genre, it stands out more that most pop music in 2018. First of all, King Of The Clouds is pop perfection, it's well produced, it has great melodies and such an amazing arrangement. Second, why does it stand out over most 2018 pop music? So I follow this UA-camr called RoomieOfficial and he makes a lot of videos on popular music, and he showed some of the most popular late-2010s pop songs and they mostly sound the same, 808s, some synths here and there and a very dark mood. And here is Pray For The Wicked, does it have 808s? Yes. Does it have synths? Yes, but there's something different and it's one of the things that made Death of a Bachelor stand out too, and it's the big band, the electronic drums are mixed with live, most songs have an electric bass instead of a synthetized one, and my favorite thing about the whole album, the strings and horns section, I grew up listening a lot of string based music, from the 90s pop ballads to the orchestrated soundtrack of today's videogames, and having a string section for the album is so awesome and basically Panic!'s music made me like even more a horns section. When it comes to lyrics it's just fine, it deals with the topic of fame and the music industry itself, and it's a topic that goes through a lot of layers, from the cheerfulness of being at the top but the dark stuffs that happen behind the scenes, but at times the lyrics tend to be bland (that and the fact that 90% of the album has like 15 writers) like in (Fuck A) Silver Lining. And despite this album coming out before the TikTok epidemic, why do the songs feel so short, (Fuck A) Silver Lining is short but those 2 minutes are really interesting musically wise but then you have Old-Fashioned, it's a good song but it feels so incomplete, I felt like Brendon and his team of producers were like "let's cut the song there for some fucking reason". And I forgot to mention, this is something more nerdy but I have to say that this album is so fucking loud, it's louder than the average 2010s pop album and it just cuts all the dynamics, but despite mastering problems, it's well produced and mixed. Overall this is a good album, does it have flaws? Yes. It is their greatest? I don't think this is the greatest pop album, but it has good moments and great songs, I have to highlight songs like (Fuck A) Silver Lining, High Hopes, Roaring 20s, One Of The Drunks, or should I say One Of The Most Underrated Songs, obviously King Of The Clouds and one of my absolute favorite songs, Dying in LA, what a masterpiece of a song. Few are the artists/bands that have a near flawless discography and in my opinion Panic! is one of them, are there albums I do sleep on? Yes, I was looking a bit at Pretty. Odd. and it was better than I remembered, but to me there's not an album from them I dislike, I think they all stand out on different ways, either the theatricality of A Fever You Can't Sweat Out, the lyrics of The Sound of Pretty. Odd., the orchestration of Vices & Virtues, the electronic sound from the Vegas album, Too Weird To Live, Too Rare To Die!, the Queen and Frank Sinatra fusion of Death of a Bachelor, the instrumentation of Pray For The Wicked to the 70's tape sound of Viva Las Vengeance, I like some of them more than others but I like the great things every album has to offer. And with that being said, I will never understand the hate against Pray For The Wicked, it might be more poppy than the others but it's not bad. But hey, that's just an opinion, MY opinion and if you don't like this album, it's fine, I respect your opinion. Post-watching the video In conclusion, the internet sucks. No really, I'm putting a whole genre as an example, pop music, everyone says that pop music is basic and bad and if you like it you're a normie compared to this way superior genre (either rock, metal or rap) and then I started to get into pop music, I went through Taylor Swift, now I'm going through Michael Jackson and, what the fuck are these people saying? This is amazing, 1989 is an amazing album, Earth Song is such a perfect song in every way, and don't get me started on everything that has to do with Taylor Swift's fourth studio... Okay, I'm getting off topic, where I'm going with this is that the internet just decides to say what's good and what's bad and they think they're superior for liking certain music, but, we all have a different taste! I'm not a huge fan of metal and I've got no plans to get into the genre no matter how many people say that it's the best music ever, if that's their favorite genre, then don't bring others down, it's not necessary and most importantly, do NOT listen or hate on music just because everyone says it, just follow your instinct and what it gets your attention and look at opinions, that's why I listened to The Black Parade, because everyone said it was one of the greatest albums of all time, or that Taylor Swift is one of the greatest songwriters or the fact that MJ is the king of pop and if everyone says it sucks, then check it out, that's what gamers do, a lot of people like to go through the absolute hell that's playing Sonic The Hedgehog (2006) just because they say it's so bad, but at the same time they also check out games that they might like or that are highly acclaimed like The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, where I'm going with this is that, being a fan of music should be more fun, not worrying about if you have a good taste or not or bringing down others for listening to their favorite music, people often ask which is the most toxic fandom, some say swifties, other say My Hero Academia fans, or Smash Bros. fans, but in my opinion the music community is the absolute most toxic of ALL of them, there's so much elitism about if this music is superior than the other, I've been in the gaming community for a long time and I've seen no one bringing others down for playing platformers (like Super Mario) or shooters (like Brendon's favorite pastime, Fortnite), do we complain about things? Yes, but aside of console wars (which is the worst part of gamers), the community itself it's not too toxic. It seems like music fans are constantly fighting which is the superior genre when at the end all of it can be written on a sheet, can it be performed live? Thanks to technology a lot of modern music cannot be played live and that's okay, let's look at Patrick Stump's solo album Soul Punk, it was all programmed, made on loops, layers everywhere but that doesn't mean that it isn't "real" music, someone put his effort on creating this, what's not music is what little children do (including myself at 4 years old), they don't know nothing about it, they just hit random notes there's no harmony and neither they sing that well, they just scream, but if it has a melody, a harmony, rhythm and most importantly, it can be written on sheet, it's music. Fun fact: Part of the reason why Panic! went solo was Jake Sinclair (producer), this is what he said during an interview in 2016 _"While Urie is the only official Panic! At The Disco member left, he also has an excellent live band, and the initial plan was to record the album with that band. Then Sinclair had second thoughts. “The live band is really great, so when the songs were ready we thought, ‘Let’s record it live in the studio with them, and a big-band horn section, with Claudius [Mittendorfer] engineering.’ But then I realised that Brendon is uncannily good at playing every instrument. He is an incredible drummer, for example, one of the best I have ever worked with. We decided that it would be better to show that off. So instead we spent three weeks with him playing almost everything on the album, apart from the horns."_ I'm not going to blame Sinclair for this but he was one of the factors why Panic! ended up being a solo project. TL;DR, Pray For The WIcked it's good, it's not their greatest but it's good, and the internet just chooses to say if you should like something or not, but the decision if yours.
I’m glad I listened to it again, it really made me appreciate the album a lot more and see things in it that I ignored on my first listen. It’s a decent album. Not their best, but passable and very enjoyable.
tbh, while i did not like the singles like high hopes, hey ma and dancing not a crime, i do still love most of the other songs. king of the clouds, the overpass, roaring 20s, old fashioned and dying in la are all very good songs, if not some of my favs of panic! i still don't listen to the album that often, but after the overplaying of the singles died down, i am more likely to listen to them than back then. still in my bottom 3 of all the panic albums. i really don't hate any panic album, which is the reason they are one of my favorite bands still
I do understand peoples frustration with this album (tho i personally like it okay) even if it has issues, i think it would've been worse if brendon just remade death of a bachelor. And i dont think we would've gotten elements of viva las vengeance without pftw either, pftw is the first time he really explored the subject of his fame, and i think it makes a nice double feature with vlv when it comes to the "story" of the albums. Ultimately i dont think its meant to be taken too seriously, its a fun album.
That’s a really good point. I’m glad I listened to this album again because I found a lot to enjoy. It’s a good exploration of fame with some sonic nods to big band and crooners
There were people who didn't like High Hopes back then? I understand but never follow the popular thing. I did and I have regrets. Now I listen to reviews, against my thoughts or not, shrug, move on and listen to whatever. I didn't listen to much Panic except when everyone in my school blasted I Write Sins. I wanted to move on because it was overplayed. Thankfully, I ended discovering older music, like Nirvana and AC/DC.
In my defense, I don't remember how I heard it. Maybe a snippet from a video but I didnt know it was overplayed. How about that.@@EternallyUncoolTrevor
"Say Amen", "King of the Clouds", "Roaring 20s", and "The Overpass" are my favorite tracks off this album.
@@caesarorzell600 I was SLEEPING on King of The Clouds, but’s it’s a great song
If you listen to the “internet” you will always miss out on great music and great artists! King of the Clouds has always been my favorite song! people took this album as him bragging about his success and that’s not it at all. It’s very tongue in cheek, but it’s about the price of fame. And High Hopes is a great song, although it was overplayed
Hard agree.
Yes. I mightve liked high hopes if I didn't hear it a trillion times on the car radio
Old fashioned is great 🤠
Pray For the Wicked is probably my least favorite panic album BUT I still love it, it had to grow on me first but I consider it a pretty solid album I even enjoy listening to High Hopes on occasion
Funnily enough this is the first Panic! album I listened to in full, because a free copy was sent to me as a gift for subscribing to a music publication. I didn't *love* it but I liked some tracks, loved Say Amen, and that was enough to get me to check the rest of the band's discography. And almost all the rest sounded better or at the very least more interesting. So... it was a pretty good way to get introduced to the band's discography because it was sort of a low bar, all things considered, lol
Fun fact about how overplayed High Hopes and Hey look Ma i Made were,High Hopes spent 34 weeks straight at number 1 on Billboards Hot Rock and Alternative chart, then Hey Look Ma I Made it spent 11 weeks number one...then High Hopes went back to number 1 for another 31 weeks.
But in Hungary High Hopes has been in their year end charts every year since 2019.
Wow that’s crazy
Pre-watching the video thoughts.
I enjoy a lot of genres and Panic! and Brendon were my introduction for music and during that path I've been diagnosed with being a bit of a pophead, I'd say I'm a bit like Patrick Stump who loves pop and R&B, but also loves punk and emo. So, this is my opinion on Pray For The Wicked, I think it's their weakest album but it's so good, while in my opinion it's not the greatest album even on its genre, it stands out more that most pop music in 2018. First of all, King Of The Clouds is pop perfection, it's well produced, it has great melodies and such an amazing arrangement. Second, why does it stand out over most 2018 pop music? So I follow this UA-camr called RoomieOfficial and he makes a lot of videos on popular music, and he showed some of the most popular late-2010s pop songs and they mostly sound the same, 808s, some synths here and there and a very dark mood. And here is Pray For The Wicked, does it have 808s? Yes. Does it have synths? Yes, but there's something different and it's one of the things that made Death of a Bachelor stand out too, and it's the big band, the electronic drums are mixed with live, most songs have an electric bass instead of a synthetized one, and my favorite thing about the whole album, the strings and horns section, I grew up listening a lot of string based music, from the 90s pop ballads to the orchestrated soundtrack of today's videogames, and having a string section for the album is so awesome and basically Panic!'s music made me like even more a horns section. When it comes to lyrics it's just fine, it deals with the topic of fame and the music industry itself, and it's a topic that goes through a lot of layers, from the cheerfulness of being at the top but the dark stuffs that happen behind the scenes, but at times the lyrics tend to be bland (that and the fact that 90% of the album has like 15 writers) like in (Fuck A) Silver Lining. And despite this album coming out before the TikTok epidemic, why do the songs feel so short, (Fuck A) Silver Lining is short but those 2 minutes are really interesting musically wise but then you have Old-Fashioned, it's a good song but it feels so incomplete, I felt like Brendon and his team of producers were like "let's cut the song there for some fucking reason". And I forgot to mention, this is something more nerdy but I have to say that this album is so fucking loud, it's louder than the average 2010s pop album and it just cuts all the dynamics, but despite mastering problems, it's well produced and mixed. Overall this is a good album, does it have flaws? Yes. It is their greatest? I don't think this is the greatest pop album, but it has good moments and great songs, I have to highlight songs like (Fuck A) Silver Lining, High Hopes, Roaring 20s, One Of The Drunks, or should I say One Of The Most Underrated Songs, obviously King Of The Clouds and one of my absolute favorite songs, Dying in LA, what a masterpiece of a song. Few are the artists/bands that have a near flawless discography and in my opinion Panic! is one of them, are there albums I do sleep on? Yes, I was looking a bit at Pretty. Odd. and it was better than I remembered, but to me there's not an album from them I dislike, I think they all stand out on different ways, either the theatricality of A Fever You Can't Sweat Out, the lyrics of The Sound of Pretty. Odd., the orchestration of Vices & Virtues, the electronic sound from the Vegas album, Too Weird To Live, Too Rare To Die!, the Queen and Frank Sinatra fusion of Death of a Bachelor, the instrumentation of Pray For The Wicked to the 70's tape sound of Viva Las Vengeance, I like some of them more than others but I like the great things every album has to offer. And with that being said, I will never understand the hate against Pray For The Wicked, it might be more poppy than the others but it's not bad. But hey, that's just an opinion, MY opinion and if you don't like this album, it's fine, I respect your opinion.
Post-watching the video
In conclusion, the internet sucks. No really, I'm putting a whole genre as an example, pop music, everyone says that pop music is basic and bad and if you like it you're a normie compared to this way superior genre (either rock, metal or rap) and then I started to get into pop music, I went through Taylor Swift, now I'm going through Michael Jackson and, what the fuck are these people saying? This is amazing, 1989 is an amazing album, Earth Song is such a perfect song in every way, and don't get me started on everything that has to do with Taylor Swift's fourth studio... Okay, I'm getting off topic, where I'm going with this is that the internet just decides to say what's good and what's bad and they think they're superior for liking certain music, but, we all have a different taste! I'm not a huge fan of metal and I've got no plans to get into the genre no matter how many people say that it's the best music ever, if that's their favorite genre, then don't bring others down, it's not necessary and most importantly, do NOT listen or hate on music just because everyone says it, just follow your instinct and what it gets your attention and look at opinions, that's why I listened to The Black Parade, because everyone said it was one of the greatest albums of all time, or that Taylor Swift is one of the greatest songwriters or the fact that MJ is the king of pop and if everyone says it sucks, then check it out, that's what gamers do, a lot of people like to go through the absolute hell that's playing Sonic The Hedgehog (2006) just because they say it's so bad, but at the same time they also check out games that they might like or that are highly acclaimed like The Legend of Zelda Breath of the Wild, where I'm going with this is that, being a fan of music should be more fun, not worrying about if you have a good taste or not or bringing down others for listening to their favorite music, people often ask which is the most toxic fandom, some say swifties, other say My Hero Academia fans, or Smash Bros. fans, but in my opinion the music community is the absolute most toxic of ALL of them, there's so much elitism about if this music is superior than the other, I've been in the gaming community for a long time and I've seen no one bringing others down for playing platformers (like Super Mario) or shooters (like Brendon's favorite pastime, Fortnite), do we complain about things? Yes, but aside of console wars (which is the worst part of gamers), the community itself it's not too toxic. It seems like music fans are constantly fighting which is the superior genre when at the end all of it can be written on a sheet, can it be performed live? Thanks to technology a lot of modern music cannot be played live and that's okay, let's look at Patrick Stump's solo album Soul Punk, it was all programmed, made on loops, layers everywhere but that doesn't mean that it isn't "real" music, someone put his effort on creating this, what's not music is what little children do (including myself at 4 years old), they don't know nothing about it, they just hit random notes there's no harmony and neither they sing that well, they just scream, but if it has a melody, a harmony, rhythm and most importantly, it can be written on sheet, it's music.
Fun fact: Part of the reason why Panic! went solo was Jake Sinclair (producer), this is what he said during an interview in 2016 _"While Urie is the only official Panic! At The Disco member left, he also has an excellent live band, and the initial plan was to record the album with that band. Then Sinclair had second thoughts. “The live band is really great, so when the songs were ready we thought, ‘Let’s record it live in the studio with them, and a big-band horn section, with Claudius [Mittendorfer] engineering.’ But then I realised that Brendon is uncannily good at playing every instrument. He is an incredible drummer, for example, one of the best I have ever worked with. We decided that it would be better to show that off. So instead we spent three weeks with him playing almost everything on the album, apart from the horns."_ I'm not going to blame Sinclair for this but he was one of the factors why Panic! ended up being a solo project.
TL;DR, Pray For The WIcked it's good, it's not their greatest but it's good, and the internet just chooses to say if you should like something or not, but the decision if yours.
I’m glad I listened to it again, it really made me appreciate the album a lot more and see things in it that I ignored on my first listen. It’s a decent album. Not their best, but passable and very enjoyable.
tbh, while i did not like the singles like high hopes, hey ma and dancing not a crime, i do still love most of the other songs. king of the clouds, the overpass, roaring 20s, old fashioned and dying in la are all very good songs, if not some of my favs of panic! i still don't listen to the album that often, but after the overplaying of the singles died down, i am more likely to listen to them than back then. still in my bottom 3 of all the panic albums. i really don't hate any panic album, which is the reason they are one of my favorite bands still
I’m not gonna lie I thought this album was fire when it came out
It’s a decent album ngl
I do understand peoples frustration with this album (tho i personally like it okay) even if it has issues, i think it would've been worse if brendon just remade death of a bachelor. And i dont think we would've gotten elements of viva las vengeance without pftw either, pftw is the first time he really explored the subject of his fame, and i think it makes a nice double feature with vlv when it comes to the "story" of the albums. Ultimately i dont think its meant to be taken too seriously, its a fun album.
That’s a really good point. I’m glad I listened to this album again because I found a lot to enjoy. It’s a good exploration of fame with some sonic nods to big band and crooners
There were people who didn't like High Hopes back then? I understand but never follow the popular thing. I did and I have regrets. Now I listen to reviews, against my thoughts or not, shrug, move on and listen to whatever.
I didn't listen to much Panic except when everyone in my school blasted I Write Sins. I wanted to move on because it was overplayed. Thankfully, I ended discovering older music, like Nirvana and AC/DC.
I feel like people hated after the fact. It got hella overplayed.
In my defense, I don't remember how I heard it. Maybe a snippet from a video but I didnt know it was overplayed. How about that.@@EternallyUncoolTrevor
Lol I swear I think I am the only person who likes this genre of music who doesn't like Fall Out Boy, Paramore or Panic At The Disco 🤣🤣🤣
Fair!