For FE Engine Commonly Forgotten Oil Gally Plug
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- A few years ago an engine builder pointed out to me that there is an oil gally plug that sometimes gets over looked when reassembling the Ford FE engine. They take the plugs out for cleaning and then forget to reinstall one particular plug resulting in oil pressure loss on the freshly rebuilt engine. Here I show where that particular plug is located at. Thanks for watching!
Thank you car gods for this video, i got my block all ready and installed in my truck. Was ready to fire my 390 up and found the oil gallery plug in the bag of old parts from the machine shop, I got a little worried and had trouble finding a good diagram of the core plug locations, but i found this video. The machine shop failed to install the plug.... but they sure did remove it for me. I was this close to killing a brand new motor, crap that was close, thank you
Andrew Staggs Wow! That's too close for comfort! I'm glad you caught it in time.
Damn dude your lucky you caught that.
Thank you, Sir.
You single handledly pointed out the importance of being rebuilt by a dedicated foreign car ( Ford and Chrysler) mechanic & a "generic car (chebbies tree surgeon) -GM-grease monkee.
I have seen the wreckage of such
Very expensive. New 390 block,
And the rest of the new parts.
The time for the exchanges of 360-to-390 heads, intake, etc. Was incredible! add that to the loss of a period block, destroyed cyl. Heads and so. On.,
Thanks for the wake up call.
God bless all,
Brian.
THE FIRST GOOD INFO IV'E EVER GOTTEN FROM YOU TUBE.
Thank you Eduardo, I'm glad I could help.
every day we can learn something. this video today make my day. Thanks for share!
Thanks mate its those little details that make all the difference another common overlooked detail is secondhand radiators with newly built motors. 😕
Yes, I just recently had mine recored. 😉
My dad dad had a 352 fe that he had put in a f600 truck and he was hauling cows with it and one day moving cows he had that front plug on the oil gallery blow out and he lost oil pressure all of a sudden he shut it down and didn’t burn the engine up but you are right about the plugs in those places
Wow! It's a good thing he caught it in time!
Thanks for this video I saw all those little plugs in my freeze plug kit but didn’t know where they went
Thank you, I have my first FE motor, the information was helpful.
I just stripped down a fe block for some machine shop work and @ 3:47 is one plug I overlooked.
Right on dude. My baddest 390 made it about 7 hot laps and seized solid. I payed big money for machine work including all the oil mods. But it is the assemblers responsibility, and I screwed it together. I missed the one behind the cam gear...a simple one, and burned up my bottom end completely. I spun all the mains and rods, it wasted everything block included. I was double stupid because it didn't have the pressure I was expecting, so idiot got to pay for 2 motors that year.
That's terrible! I'm so sorry to hear that. Since making this video I have put about 13,000 miles on this engine. I drive it every day.
Can anyone can help with my 390 FE! I’m not getting oil through the heads when I prime the oil, I only see oil come up to the intake valley. I removed both oil bolts that would feed the roller rockers and nothing! Any help advise please?
Thank you for calling it an engine and not a motor.
Thanks buddy... It was a big help .💯👍😎
what do the yellow painted numbers mean in the lifter valley? my block has them to and I'm not to sure what they mean, Thanks!
Hello I'm scouting the internet for a video that uses a 1/4" roll pin into an oil gallery that has cracked and is letting oil into the coolant. Motor is a 390 fe 1968. I hear the video exists but I cannot find one. Do you have any info or a link perhaps?
Great tip, Thank you.
mate! it takes you 1:50 to get to the point! good point though ;)
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geewizboogieman you’re a gentleman and a scholar. To much yammering and not getting to the point
When Darryl Waltrip was announcing Nascar after he quit driving, He said actually they're Engines! We don't call motorboats Engine boats or motorcycles engine cycles!
Thanks. Good information.
Depends on the year and distributor gear/oil pump drive housing design, its where the distributor and drive gear gets oil, if you use the wrong distributor per application you bleed off your oil pressure.the housing with the oil groove centered in the dist. bore mating surface that bleeds off below ti the cam gear is for use without the plugged, redirected oil galley. I might be off a little, but Im going by a one time memory from 30 years ago, anyone automotive machine shop savvy have any input here? Don’t make me google I hate putting my mind on the back burner
Always pressurize your newly built motor before trying to start it.
Yes, you definitely don't want to be starting a fresh engine dry.
I DID, WITH INTAKE ON. ME ,DUH !!
@@williamdenzer1342 if its reading proper pressure then all good. If not start over lol
NOT ONLY DID I FIND MY 352 DISTRBUTOR PLUG NOT IN MY FE, IN MY SEARCH AS I PULLED THE INTAKE OFF I FOUND THE GALLERY WITH OIL PLUGS LAYING LOOSE AND EMPTY HOLES HERE AN THERE, I THEN HAD EVERY REMAINING PLUG START SPINING IN ITS SEAT AS I DRILLED HOLES IN THEM TO REPLACE THEM, THAT SHOP HAS LONG SINCE CLOSED, BUT THE ENGINE IS STILL F#+&*D UP
I left mine out, but then I had blocked the lifter galleries back aft as I had converted to solid lifters. Hope I didn't make a mistake doing that.
The solid lifters will probably get enough oil to be ok, but pressurized oil from the lifter galleries would have been a good thing. There should be enough oil splashing up from the bottom end and also oil laying in the top end to keep them lubricated.
No you made a boo boo! Id install a line in the galley and run an oil pressure gage to see, since its only a timing cover pull
How do they come out? Just like the freeze plugs?
How do you get that plug in or out of that distributor well?
I think I just put it on the end of a punch that would just fit inside the cup of the plug. Then I carefully put it in place and tapped it in place with a hammer.
Thanks you for making this video. . How many total oil plugs on a 390, do you know?
I counted 7 press in plugs and 4 thread in plugs in the video. I don't remember if there was another one down near the oil filter or pump. It's been a few years. Your 390 block will be identical to my 360.
Can anyone can help with my 390 FE! I’m not getting oil through the heads when I prime the oil, I only see oil come up to the intake valley. I removed both oil bolts that would feed the roller rockers and nothing! Any help advise please?
sounds like you missed a plug
Hey @@bogiewheelman71 Thanks for the reply! Yes my troubles was the elusive plug in the distributor hole.
Hey thanks for that video. Is there a set of these all little plugs on ebay ?
I have to rebuilt my 390 in the next time.
I didn't see any as a kit on ebay or Summit, but individually they are a common part. They are just a mini freeze plug. I've heard with shortages due to the pandemic that it's hard to find parts for the FE engines. I'm not sure how bad it is. Hopefully as long as you don't have to do anything major like replacing a head, it won't be too bad. I would like to think that getting pistons, rings, bearings, valves, guides etc wouldn't be too bad, I hope...
@@chipwright6193 I will see when I have disassembled the engine.
Maybe it all looks good on it, then I will leave it like that.
My engine runs, but he will have wear inside. Loses oil pressure and after some time due lifter make noises. Also he has a lot of blow by. After almost 60 years I think it's time to overhaul it. But I have help from people who have done FE engines many times. Just looking now what all I need parts. So that it goes later as possible without much waiting ahead.
I can not say at the moment if the engine has been done before and how due bore of the cylinders are current.
@@sequoiaohz okay, that sounds similar to mine. I hope it all goes well for you. On mine I just had the heads rebuilt at the local machine shop. The cylinders didn't look too bad, so I just replaced the piston rings. Then replacing all of the bearings and switching to a high volume oil pump got my oil pressure back. Before I rebuilt it, the oil pressure would go to zero at idle when it was hot. I'm really happy with it now. At ide the pressure is around 25psi and 50-75psi on the highway.
@@chipwright6193 That sounds good to me. Glad your engine is running well again.
I suspect maybe wear on the main bearings of the crankshaft. There certainly is lost the oil pressure when the engine and the oil is hot. Have heard in the context is also often then at the rear engine seal the engine leaks. There he also loses a lot of oil. Have enough time to do the whole thing over the winter. Then I do not drive anyway, because of all the salt on the roads. Have a good day. Greetings from Germany.
@@sequoiaohz we don't drive our old cars in the winter either. The salt is terrible. The rear main seal in the 390 was a piece of rope packed in a V groove that sealed against the crankshaft. They make a neoprene seal to replace it that is much better. It was great texting with you! My great great grandfather was from Hatzbach, German, noth of Stadtallendorf. Greetings from Ohio!
Makes plenty sense
Just put in a pipe plugs after toy tap it out .
FE....stands for Freaking Expensive....
Haha, yes they are! 😅 I heard since covid, they are hard to find parts for too....
@@chipwright6193 yup....and try finding machine work for anything...my new BBM block has been with a FE expert four months without a word
...and he's the kind of guy you don't want to be impatient with or it takes even longer...
Good grief dude. Figure out what you want to say before making a video. This was torture
Then don't watch the video!
Hey it's not easy being on camera and the guy did fine so stfu. Make your own video if you think you can do better.
Get rid of it and go to a 390 block much better block 🏋️
You do know 360 and 390 use the same block, right. They just have a different stroke, even the bore is the same between the two 😅😅
@@chipwright6193 yes depending on year the blocks vary on nickel content witch makes them strong . get a scat crank to stroke it to your needs Or a 428 … 427 side oiler 💵 but it pays off
@@neils7221 okay, I see what you mean about the nickel content. I've seen something before about a Mexican 302 block that had a higher nickel content that was sought after. I really don't need to do anything elaborate with mine. I just wanted to freshen it up a little so it would be reliable as a daily driver again. That would be fun to drive! A coworker did just like you described with his truck though. I think his is 69 F250. I'm looking forward to seeing it once he's finished building it.
@@chipwright6193 the forgotten engine “FE “ sounds great always enjoy it 🇺🇸🇺🇸